Combine Notes: The Buzz Around Indy

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A few notes to pass along after wandering around the combine for a couple days:

“The Eagles won’t spend.”

That was a quote from the representative of a free-agent defensive player, whose client will likely command somewhere between mid-level and high-end money. Asked for his reasoning, he said that was the general understanding out there about the team’s approach to free agency.


This was one agent and his words shouldn't be taken as gospel, but I found it interesting nonetheless. It lines up somewhat with the message coming out of the NovaCare -- that the Eagles will not be purchasing items off the top shelf unless all the stars align. Several others that we spoke to are expecting the Eagles to be disciplined shoppers as well.

-- Brandon Graham is a player to keep your eye on this offseason.

The people we talked to believe he is a 4-3 defensive end, pure and simple. Not a scheme fit. Howie Roseman knows the value of pass rushers in this league so I don't think he will be in a hurry to trade Graham necessarily, but I do think he will entertain any offers that come through.

Graham would benefit from a fresh start and could be attractive to 4-3 teams looking to bolster their pass rush. The Eagles need to build this defense with pieces that fit. Not a lock, but I think there is a decent chance he gets dealt.

-- We know that measurables matter to Chip Kelly. How about these measurables out of Florida State wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin: 6-5, 240 pounds, four percent body fat; 34 7/8 arms, 10 1/4 hands. His goal is to run a 4.3-40 at the combine this weekend.

"I think that ideally when you're looking at a prototype from the receiver position, it's size, it's speed, when you talk about length, big hands, we talk about it with quarterbacks but it's important for receivers, too; when you look at drop rates, normally the guys that have higher drop rates have smaller hands," said Roseman. "The more guys you can have with size and speed and being able to break down and run a variety of routes and make mistmatches for defenses, the better you are going to be. But those guys typically go high in the draft and are hard to find. They don't make them everywhere."

Mike Mayock has Benjamin as the fourth-best receiver in the draft. Mel Kiper Jr. has the Eagles selecting wideout Odell Beckham, Jr. with the No. 22 overall pick, and Benjamin going  a pick later to Andy Reid and the Chiefs.

"I just want to be physical," said Benjamin, when asked what separates him from the other receivers, "but I try to be smart, too."

  • MediaMike

    Benjamin needs to upgrade his ability to catch the football. He has WAY too many drops.

    • anon

      Avant can handle that. Ertz had the same issue but we took him and he fixed it.

      • cheapmeat

        Assuming that Avant is still on the team.

        I do agree that if they do draft a WR in the first, there’s another reason to keep Avant. I love the guy, but how much of what he offers can be done as an assistant WR coach?

      • RIP illa

        We didn’t fix it yet. He still had his fair share of drops and misses. Not to say he isn’t a good up and coming player, but he was as advertised by scouting reports during his rookie campaign. Never seen a player live up to his scouting report to a Tee like Ertz, not saying that it’s a bad thing. Just rare.

        • anon

          I thought his hands got way better as season progressed.

          • RIP illa

            Didn’t see it as such. I did see him being used more by Chip, and in that use, I saw him get wide open way more. It’s not like I’m saying he has bad hands…cuz he doesn’t. Just inconsistent and more so to do w/ contested and/or catches in tight spaces.

          • anon

            Yeah hard to evaluate players catching in traffic, b/c we were always wide open.

          • Token

            Hands were supposed to be a strength of Ertz. He just struggled this year. Nerves, injury who knows. But hes gotta get better at catching in traffic.

          • anon

            He was known as a ball dropper. He was better this year than expected, but that was his knock coming out.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            stop already. why is this myth continually perpetuated on these boards?

            he had bad hands in pre-season. that was it. Only 1 credited drop last season. A handful of jaw-dropping catches. Ertz does not have bad hands

            http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

          • anon

            he was known for drops at stanford as well. but glad you found the stat; i couldn’t.

        • Weapon Y

          Ertz was never as bad this season as Celek was when he was younger regarding drops

    • GEAGLE

      If he gets good coaching he will be fine…dude is about as raw as it gets

    • RIP illa

      Exactly. I understand the love of size and the the possibility of upside and high ceilings, but if you’re a WR and have inconsistent hands…there’s no way I’d want a pick like that in the 1st!!! Unless we could afford a luxury pick, cuz we’re set almost everywhere else. I’m not liking the hype on him. Want my 1st rd WR to have Carter type hands!!!

      • GEAGLE

        If hands is your thing, then you want Odell Beckham junior. Best hands in the draft, Hands down lol!! Randall Colbb junior!! His highlight film is all tough catches. Dude catches everything thrown his way even if he is quarter inch shy of 6ft and a few LBs light of 200lb..

        I want a big WR like everyone else, but this kid is a really good Kr/PR so he could appeal to us. I don’t like him at 22, but I wouldn’t mind trading back and then drafting him…

        Bad hands is something that has plagued a lot of great WR prospects, just like rookie running backs who fumble the ball. It’s something that can be corrected. I don’t want to see inconsistent hands in a polished WR prospect who runs great routes..but if we are talking about a Raw prospect, I wouldn’t shy away from inconsistent hands. KB is raw enough to where you can expect his hands to improve,,,and as inconsistent as they are, he has shown a knack to make some BIGTIME catches at crucial times..

        • anon

          I’d take routes over hands any day. TO had drops, but could always get open.

          • GEAGLE

            Both can be improved upon..take the best athlete with the best Charecter and football IQ, and let our coaches worry about developing them into NFL WRs…if we stick to special athletes who are coachable, great work ethic, crazy desire to be great…we will be fine. It’s impossible to really talk eagles draft picks! because we aren’t privy to the interviews which seem to matter to this regime…

            Does KB have a greater work ethic then Coleman or martevias Bryant? Is he more committed to football excellence? Does he have a higher football IQ? If the answers are yes, then take him at 22…if they aren’t a clear cut YES, then wait til round 3 and get one of the other big bodies…seems like we have the teachers in place that allow us to draft for upside and potential. And if we keep putting a premium on Charecter,work ethic and commitment, sooner or later our coaches will mold our picks into quality Eagles!!

          • anon

            Hard to find that special combination outside first rounds. Avant has that mental aspect, but not the physical…for some guys the ability to get open is just natural — you can teach what shady does.

          • RIP illa

            That’s totally different. Shady’ avoiding tackles, and you are correct, you can’t teach that. But routes are designed and designated, requiring way less improv. Quick feet and not giving away where you’re going. Not the same as breaking ankles.

          • RIP illa

            Oh forgot. Any other year it maybe hard to find that combo. However, this year…there will be guys who have size, who have a great catch radius, who run just as fast, and some faster than Benjamin, and who just as NFL ready if not more than him, all the way up to the 5th round. Benjamin is this year’s Jordan…all upside and ceiling to go along w/ a freakish frame.

          • joe

            I like Maetavis Bryant, i feel like his game doesn’t reach its full potential being across from Watkins. Mark my words he’s gonna be a sleeper teams regret not taking.

          • RIP illa

            That’s a great example for a counter. However I do think routes can be learned or corrected easier than having a a bad set of hands. I’m sure Avant works his ass off to have be as good of a pass catcher as he is. But that can only go so far (IMO). Players who catch like he does have a God given talent to have hands that soft.

        • RIP illa

          Trust me…I already know. I love me some Beckham and been wanting him for awhile. I think he’d be perfect in this O. No he’s not big, but he’s not small either and he’s not soft. And good God those hands!!! I just don’t see a way for us to get him since he’s a fringe 1st rounder now and since we don’t have multiple seconds, if he manages not to get drafted in the 1st. Damn, I wish we had 3 2s or 2 2s and 2 3s!!!

          I think there are big WRs to be had later on w/ better hands and speed than Benjamin and who only fall a few inches shorter. If we’re taking a guy early, then give me the guy w/ great mitts and enough speed to be a downfield threat or break it open for a medium to big gain in YAC. We already have our home run hitter in DJax.

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t disagree…OBJ ain’t big, but he damn sure plays Big, but yeah I can’t say that I would be too happy seeing us pick him at 22. I like KB, but I’m not one of his crazed fans..it’s not that I’m not a fan, it’s just that I’m also a big fan of like 20 other WR prospects….praying for a trade back. Gotta find a way to get more pics in this draft

    • Token

      Yea. Id rather my 1st round WR not have hands as one of his negative attributes. I need a guy thats gonna make contested catches. We dont have many if any of those guys on our team right now.

  • Joe L

    I’d be shocked if he ran a 4.3. Anything under 4.6 at his size is fantastic and I doubt he makes it to 22.

    • GEAGLE

      Id be surprised if he didn’t make it to 22…great prospect, tons of potential, but I can’t see teams drafting him before Sammy,Evans!Ebron, and probably Lee get drafted. OBJ is also ready to contribute to an NFL team like a young Randall Colbb. There are also big body WR like Coleman and Bryant that could be had later, so it should keep teams from OVERDRAFTING KB..

      I think he comes off the board: earliest 22, but no later then the panthers! doubt they would pass on him

      • Joe L

        “All the potential in the world” is all a lot of what it takes to be a 1st round pick. He’s got a ceiling higher than almost any other WR in this draft with a body like that. He won’t get drafted before Watkins and Ebron, because those guys will be top 10 picks. I think he does go before Marqise Lee though, and possibly before Mike Evans. I think it’s a real possibility that can go to Baltimore rd 1.

        • GEAGLE

          Ebron? Same Ebron who ran the same 40 time as Lyerla? Just curious…

          • Joe L

            Yea, same Ebron. I don’t get what your point is, as usual. And Ebron will still be a top 10 pick.

    • RIP illa

      Yeah. He’s just all talk right now when it comes to that. I haven’t seen anything from his game film that shows he has break away speed. And that’s what running in the 4.3s is. So many people wanna try and compare extremely tall WRs to Megatron, but no one seems to remember that in addition to being big, Megatron is a freak athlete w/ legit 4.3 speed. That’s a big difference than a possession WR that runs 4.5-4.6 and I’d be surprised if Benjamin ran anywhere under that.

      • Andy124

        Eh, wouldn’t shock me if he can translate those long legs into a ridiculous 40 time that doesn’t and won’t show on the field.

        • RIP illa

          Yeah, his length if stride should def be taken into account. I just don’t ever remember seeing him pulling away from a DB, especially the ones known for speed.

      • dbag

        4.53

  • GEAGLE

    Tim…what would you expect the eagles to get for BG, a player who’s contract expires at the end of the season? Easy to say, BG doesn’t fit, keep an eye on him being traded, but what is a team going to give up for a one year rental? To get a team to trade anything of value for BG, they would have to negotiate an extension with his agent before completing the trade..I don’t see how anyone could have seen enough of BG to trade for him and offer him an extension immediately,,,
    ..,
    Ok, so first I was told we had no talent. Then I was told we were carrying over all this money and we would be players in this free agent market..now I’m being told we can’t sign FA because we have all this young talent that we need to re sign lol, but now I’m being told that we might lose Cooper or Maclin in FA…lol so now, not only can’t we have free agent upgrades, but now we might also lose our young players???

    If they let coop Walk, and don’t sign a real safety, there will be hell to pay!!!

  • GEAGLE

    You know you have serious issues when you catch yourself watching punters and long snappers run the 40..lol
    ..
    Auburns LT Robinson just had an impressive combine, he will now be the first LT drafted, anywhere from #2 to #11..that’s how much better this draft class is then last year. The OTs are better then Joekel and Fisher yet they may not even come off the board til like 8-11
    ..

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      SERIOUS issues. Had to clarify.

    • GEAGLE

      Xavier sula filo, some think will perform his way into Warmack/Jonathon Cooper status and get himself picked in the 11-16 range(giants would be smart to draft him)..sure hope so, it be nice to have a guard push a prospect down a spot closer to us..

      Morgan Moses is hurting his stock today

  • Bullwinkle

    The highlights really show what a huge difference size makes. Some of the DBs look like high school sophomores compared to Benjamin.

  • ztom6

    There is no way Kelvin Benjamin is 4 percent bodyfat. That has to be a misreading.

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      Under 6-7% is considered unhealthy. These monkey genetics they got though from centuries of running in the desert.

      • RIP illa

        WTF!!! Am I reading this wrong or is something wrong w/ the way you just put that???

        • BrickSquadMonopoly

          Probly reading it wrong.

          • Michael Deen

            I read it as though you are a racist Prawn…

          • Andy124
          • Michael Deen

            Prawns…

          • Andy124

            Great movie.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Racism as you see it may still be fact.

          • RIP illa

            Ok I was just gonna let it go but u proven yourself to be a complete POS and ignorant as hell!!! You use words like facts and science yet your comment was filled w/ factual inaccuracies and errors, while bringing nothing scientific to support your bigoted claims that you decided to spew in such a racist fashion.

            I do hope you get banned, yet again and again and again. You bring very little to any conversation on any given thread, if anything at all. All you do is troll and hang on Geagle’s nuts!!! You think you’re being clever, but all you’re really doing is Pole Jockin!!! Go away kid.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Geagle aint #1…im #1 whos nut swingin. Well I hope YOU get banned!!! Lol..? And im clever like a chimp, some monkeys can be surprisingly intelligent. :)

          • RIP illa

            Son…how can you even claim intelligence with that last response. Hell kid, you haven’t said anything of intelligence this whole thread. I hate when someone says something reprehensibly stupid and instead of just owning up or coming correct, they instead double down. Just stop…nevermind. I will. SMH. Pathetic!!!

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Eugenics died with hitler, you sh!t

        • anon

          Nope that second sentence is completely foul.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        apparently, you missed out on the brain evolution part

        • TripSquadMonopoly

          Take it how you please genetics are genetics theres no arguing it. SCIENCE!

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            I mean I didn’t even get a warning timmy I thought you appreciate your regulars.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            @tim mcmanus, keep banning this clown.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Go tweet him then. Grown man shh.

      • Maggie

        First, men should have somewhere close to 12% body fat for good health. Second, there are very few monkeys in the DESERT. And third, go get your backpack and get back to your kindergarten class. You obviously need some serious schooling.

        • TripSquadMonopoly

          12% wrong. Maggie the kitchen needs attending.

          • Max Lightfoot

            So go clean it yourself, kitchen boy.

          • Maggie

            Sorry I took so long to reply. I have a life. The 12% came straight out of “Men’s Fitness” or “Muscle” magazines, published by the people who put on Mr. Olympia, etc. The Weider’s did not want the body builders to get their bodyfat too low, when some of them started dying!

    • Joe L

      No he said he’s 4%. A couple seasons ago Joe McKnight failed a physical with the Jets because he was like 3% body fat and all that does is lead to fatigue/injuries and other health risks.

      • ztom6

        Well if that’s what he said, he is wrong. Look at the graphic on this site:

        http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

        No way he is walking around at 4% like the guy in the picture. That’s a level only competitive bodybuilders achieve and they are only able to achieve it for short periods for time for their competitions. It’s more likely he is ~10% (which is still very impressive at that size).

      • ztom6

        and for that matter, I seriously doubt Joe McKnight’s bf was really that low either. It’s very common for people to underestimate their true bodyfat level.

  • RIP illa

    Hopefully that 1st quote from the Agent was cut short or just an abbreviated version meaning that the Eagles won’t spend this year.

    I don’t think it’s good for a team to be known as cheap when FA comes. No matter how much we wanna build through the draft, we still need to be able to entice, if not command, good to great FAs when we need/want to. I don’t really blame the FO, cuz outside of Bryd and a few others who are on the next tier down, this is a real weak FA class.

    • anon

      Yeah if I’m Byrd’s agent i’m not really taking Howie’s calls seriously b/c numbers won’t be there — and there will always be funny money at the end of the contract.

  • Token

    Well where are the difference makers coming from then? We are trusting Howie to find them in the draft? He doesnt have a good track record at that. He can find you role players. But hasnt drafted many true difference makers.

    I simply dont see what having 20 million in cap space does for you. That money is there to improve your football team.

    If they truly arent interested in someone like Byrd…. I dunno. We are left hoping that we can compete in 2016. And in order to do that we have to hope that Howie just dominates 2 drafts in a row. Hard to imagine. Just cant see him getting us a stud S and a stud OLB within two drafts when you consider all the other things that need upgraded.

    • anon

      I agree. It’ll be interesting to see. FA last year was definitely a let down and i think the FA class this year is weaker than last years. We haven’t drafted an all star since DeSean and Shady (Nick aside for purspoes of the arguement. — that tells you all you need to know.

      • Token

        Building through the draft is great and all. Thats how you get the foundation of your team. But the Eagles time to compete is now. The next 2 years. They have to be aggressive, not sit back twiddling thumbs hoping to drafts multiple studs. Not when theres a stud at a position of great need hitting the street.

        The Seahawks have drafted maybe the best of any team recently. But even they still got some key players in FA.

        • anon

          Yeah thinking we can emulate what SEA does is silly.

          • Token

            We have won multiple cap championships in the past decade plus. What the hell has it done for us? Spend what you can. Aggressively try to make this team a contender.

            Are there many elite teams with 20-30 mil in cap space yearly?

    • Guest

      Its there so we have some money to sign our young core of players who will be looking to get paid next year….as well as potential franchise QB money

      • Token

        What young core? Its not like any of them are good enough to get some giant payday. We dont have Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman type players that we have to pay. We have role players that need resigned. We are talking about guys like Kelce and Kendricks.

  • Eagles4Life

    KB will run about a 4.43. He’s a long strider, and a lot faster than he looks. I’ve seen him live.

  • GEAGLE

    can’t we just trade Barkley for Clowney? Lol he came in light, clearly lost weight to show he can play OLB for the Texans,,..mortgage the entire draft and go get Clowney or Mack lol. I wish!!! Silly Giants won some meaningless games when they were in prime position to get him

    • Token

      I think Clowney has a decent chance at being a dog. Now Mack you can tell just loves the game.

      • GEAGLE

        Mayock says he would take Mack #1 … Pisses me off. I remember when he wasn’t even on anyone’s radar..damn ohio State Oline let him run wild and it ruined what should have been a hidden Gem!! I had hope for him as this years Jamie Collins(hate that we missed out on him and Kiko)..but Mack shot up the board…Id give up our 1st,3rd and 4th to get Mack. I don’t care how deep this draft is, We would still have our 2nd to get a really good WR and we could get a safety and a corner with our two 5ths….problem is in order for us to be able to do something crazy like that we would have to spend for a sure shot free agent safety and we would have to retain Coop and Maclin…

        This class is so deep, that ideally we trade back and get extra picks. I would rather trade out of round 1, then get a prospect like Barr who I adore. But ‘Mack is different!! That’s the one player I’d mortgage our draft for..Defensive rookie of the year. Impact 3 down OLB from day one. Premium player at a premium position..Barwin/Mack would be sick! I’m a dreamer…looks like Howie lost his balls…not sure I can call him “splash” any more

    • RIP illa

      Almost gave you an upvote. It was a great start w/ can we just trade Barkley. I’d package Barkely, Matthews, and Chung for almost anybody in this draft.

      • GEAGLE

        We would be lucky to get a decent kicker for those three

    • cliff henny

      or ‘skins saying they wont take anything less than 2nd for Cousins. he was horrible. if memory serves, one game he was 19/49 and under 200 yards, now that’s captain checkdown

  • anon

    Colt just ran sub 4.5 (unofficial).

    • GEAGLE

      4.47…dudes a sick athlete..I gots to have him lol

      • anon

        He might could be too expensive after the combine.

        • GEAGLE

          This is my friggin nightmare! Exactly what I didn’t want to happen!! I know that Chip knows what a sick athlete he is, I didn’t want the world to find out. WTF!!!! Someone frame him for a drug charge!!!!!

          Jace amaro can’t run under 4.6 wonder if he falls to round two(allthough the Pats might not be able to pass on him if theÿ don’t trade up)
          ..
          nIklas is deciding not to run…anyone hear why?

      • Eagles4Life

        Crazy athlete. Watch his vert be ridiculous too.

        • GEAGLE

          Hope not….for such a fantastic athlete, dude is a tough SOB of a bruising blocker. Really hope he finds his way onto our roster. Like fools been talking bout Ebron Amaro all year don’t even understand what a fantastic TE prospect he is…hopefully he acts like a racist or homophobe when the other teams interview him :)…

          Wish he wore a “I hate Micheal Sam” shirt to the combine…hopefully Hernandez made it so no one touches him.

          • GEAGLE

            GOOD!!! He just ran a 4.59

            LSU problem child AC Leonard ran a 4.43

          • Eagles4Life

            Colt and DAT in the 4th & 5th the way this thing is going

          • Eric Jensen

            If we take lyerla in the 4th ill smash my TV

          • Token

            He benched less times than many high school athletes.

          • GEAGLE

            Good!! Hope he jumps like woody harleson!!! Don’t want him to perform well. he doesn’t have to, for the eagles to take him as an Undrafted FA

          • Weapon Y

            Normally I’d say Belichick would definitely get him, but maybe he’ll be more cautious about getting a potential Aaron Hernandez 2.0.

    • Token

      They put some coke at the finish line.

      • anon

        haha yeah that’s what i was thinking — added a second between 1st and 2nd run — probably no endurance.

  • GEAGLE

    Ebron just ran a 4.5 Flat on his first attempt..that’s like faster then Jimmy Graham and Jordan Cameron..but my boy Colt Lyerla just ran a 4.47 which is insane on his first attempt.

    Bucky brooks has us going with WR Brandin Cooks, passing on OBJ and Kony…Brandin is a tough, tiny Steve smith type

  • GEAGLE

    I despise the media.hate what they are doing to Sam, but I must say, he is an impressive young man and he is handling himself really well. he is the right guy to handle being the first gay athlete…good for him. But the media is a joke, doing this to this kid while he is at the combine, a football players dream. Like, not a single question is being asked about him as an NFL prospect.

    • anon

      What’d he expect? Though comments make me wonder if he was getting blackmailed and then had to come out.

      • Joe L

        Plenty of people knew he was gay. He said he wanted to make it known to NFL teams before someone other than himself did it.

      • GEAGLE

        He was definitely forced to come out. He didn’t have a choice, too many people knew about it and reporters at the senior bowl were starting to ask questions trying to trap him like “when did you last have a girlfriend”..he knew he could no longer control it, and soon someone was going to leak it, so he was basically forced to come out if he wanted to be able to be the one to announce it…everyone in the NFL circles and a bunch of media outlets knew before he came out…he really didn’t have a choice but to come out when he did..sucks, but He handled it as well as could be expected
        ..
        I don’t understand what questions a media member has left to possibly ask him about his sexuality? He likes dudes, ok…and? It will be ackward at first in locker rooms..ok? And…maybe a GM or two passes on him because of it.. Ok and…what else can they possibly still ask him about his sexuality?…

        What I hate about this situation is he is such a flawed prospect, people see SEC player of the year,and when he falls to like round 4-6, there will be people saying he fell because of his sexuality. When in reality he isn’t a prospect that should be drafted in the first 3 rounds..but he isn’t a prospect that should go Undrafted either…

        • GEAGLE

          Would have been easier if the first gay athlete was like a sure shot top 10 pick…

          • anon

            Yup. But maybe he’ll get a character push. They are comparing Sam to T. Cole and projecting him as a good fit in Philly (wrong).

            Saw the video of him against run game — he looked terrible.

            Wish they would show these TE drills…

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I don’t want anything to do with him, but I don’t care that he is gay….I like that our coaches want long 6’6 OLBs, why would I want a Trent Cole type when I’m trying to get someone to replace Trent? Lol

          • Andy124

            We need more players like Trent like we need a mobile QB.

  • Tautalatasi Jr.

    crap

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  • anon

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/22/jim-harbaugh-viewed-as-a-combustible-commodity/

    Wow. Considering the winning he’s done in SF — JH must be a complete bear to work with.

    • RIP illa

      Have you ever seen him on the sideline :-) Imagine having to work w/ that day in and day out.

    • Kev_H

      I’ve met Paraag Marathe a few times and heard him talk about his football and organizational philosophy. First, the guy is truly brilliant and would be a star in any field (rare in the football world). He is as responsible for the 49ers success as anyone. He’s humble, very low key, a people person, and great communicator. Harbaugh, to me, seems out of place there. He seems to go with the emotions of the moment, rather than rationally playing to the long term odds.

  • anon

    Byrd is getting tagged. Ward is staying with CLE. Womp Womp.

    • GEAGLE

      Haha poor Bryd…he met with the bills today, lol wonder what it felt like to hear, you are getting tagged again pal. Dude is going to flip out..I’m assuming they are tagging him to try and trade him. They are scumbags. Basically they don’t want to pay for him(plenty of cap space), but they don’t want to lose him for nothing…lol minor league feeder team trying to grow some balls

      • anon

        Sounds like $9mil guaranteed money or franchise and trade.

        • GEAGLE

          Sounds like a trade or another 8 game hold out,followed by two games out with an “injury”, collect 9mil for like 4 games, and get named to another probowl keeping his value up…if they Tag him, I think it’s to try and trade him..they have cap space, if they wanted to sign him it would have never gotten to this point

  • GEAGLE

    Lynch benched really well..did he run under 4.6?
    ..
    wtf NIklas is running the positional drills. But he didn’t run the 40 “groin injury”

    • Joe L

      4.68 it looks like.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah I was just about to say. We got lucky with Lyeria.4.61 and bad bench press, NICE!!!!

        • Joe L

          Kelly’s not drafting him. Get used to the idea.

          • GEAGLE

            Good, I want him as an UDFA..get used to the idea. Chip recruited him, and he didn’t commit to “full retard” til after Chip left, so try again :) thanks for playing….

          • Joe L

            You haven’t been on here saying Kelly needs to draft him in the later rounds? Must be someone else who thinks college coaches draft their old players.

          • GEAGLE

            If he ends up as a draft able prospect, then hell yeah we should be using our second 5th round pick on a round two athlete..but their is still a chance he goes Undrafted, and you can bet he would be signing with the Eagles if that were to happen…so right now, I’m rooting for him to stink it up, get in trouble, whatever needs to happen for him to go Undrafted…because he is as talented of an athlete as you will ever find in rounds 6 to undrafted. Lol why wouldn’t we want a round two athlete in like round 7? We should take him off the board because he is a duck?

          • Joe L

            What do you mean “if he ends up being a draftable prospect”? At this point, you already know whether he is or he isn’t.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol did you miss the combine that’s taking place? Interviews? Physicals? He is a round two talent, but a nutcase who not every team is going to put on their big board…I would love to see us take him, like 3 spots before anyone else does..I just don’t know where that is. If Teams are considering him in the 5th, then I hope we take him in the 4th..if teams think he is too risky of a nutcase to take before the 7th, then I hope we take him in the 6th…a year ago I wanted us to draft him in round 2 of this draft, so anywhere after round 4 is gravy!! I just don’t want to see us take him in round 4, if no one was gonna touch him til the 7th…and you are seriously mistaken if you think his value has been established yet..ideally you don’t have to spend a pick on him because no one will touch him and he would sign with us if he goes Undrafted…

          • Joe L

            Physicals and interviews are done, and we’ve seen what kind of athlete he is in drills. His off the field issues are widely known at this point. Like I said, you know what he is at this point. A guy who wasn’t as strong, fast or as big as advertised and has had substance abuse and maturity issues. No thanks, especially for a 4th.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol you know what he is? What round is he getting drafted in? Let me know, save me some trouble . When is he coming off the board?

          • Joe L

            “Lol you know what he is?”- I’m not even sure what this means, but I said we know what kind of athlete he is (not the freak he was advertised to be) and we know he’s got off-the-field issues. Pass.

          • GEAGLE

            Pass…as in, if he is on the board in round 7, just pass? Lol
            You do realize there is still pro days, individual team visits? There is still so much to be decided and you think he wouldn’t be worth a 7th round pick? Lol are you HIGH?? How often do you get that type of upside in round 7?

          • Joe L

            I don’t see the upside you do in a smallish TE, with below average strength and major red flags. But if we take him in the 7th, good luck controlling his attitude when he’s a core special teamer year 1. Seems like a real team player, so he would work out great.

          • GEAGLE

            Take away the issues, and he would be the best prospect coming out of Oregon this year, better then T Mitch!Huff,DAt or Hart… Chip seemed to control him just fine and if you think he wouldn’t be a good value in round 7 then we will just have to disagree because I find it absurd and not worth spending any more time on..

            Average athlete? NIklas didn’t run, Ebron ran a 4.6, amaro had a horrible day and Lyerla isn’t worth a 7th? Ok…lol he ran the same official time as Ebron lol so stop it

          • anon

            TEs do more than just run in a straight line.

          • GEAGLE

            You don’t say…

            Not a good day for the TEs…they fell short of expectations which is going to make evaluators go back and inspect their tapes again looking for why there is a discrepancy between the tape and the combine performance. Guys like Ebron were talked about as high as #8 to Buffalo, today did not reflect that!!

          • Michael Deen

            That dude Ebron was boasting about how he was going to run a sub 4.5, faster than former teammate Gio Bernard….

          • Joe L

            So he’d be better than an average group of players coming out of Oregon. Cool. And when did I call him an average athlete? He’s just not the freak he was advertised as. And Niklas is 3 inches and 30 lbs heavier, Ebron is taller and at least 10 lbs heavier, Amaro is 2 inches taller and 25 lbs heavier. He SHOULD be faster than all of them at his size, no excuse. All of them are stronger at the point of attack, and none of them come with the baggage.

          • Kev_H

            First, head coach doesn’t normally have much daily contact with individual players in college. Second, can I infer from your comments that you think Lyerla first got involved with drugs when Kelly left Oregon? Do you realize how that sounds? Don’t you think a 7th rd pick or UFA contract would be resources better used on overachievers who have demonstrated an ability to grow and develop? That would seem to be the more promising approach.

          • Kev_H

            I see zero upside. If a guy can’t reach his potential in college or steer clear of crime and addictive drugs and can’t show up for the combine, that is a strong indicator that he won’t be able to show up on Sundays where the demands are more complicated than “run as fast as you can in a straight line” and “bench 225 as many times as you can.”

          • anon

            sort of seems like they stopped showing him…

          • Weapon Y

            If its me, I take him. But I think Chip feels strongly against bringing in Ducks who defied him and his assistants. See Legarrette Blount and Cliff Harris. I, for one, would hate to repeat the mistake of not signing Vontaze Burfict who I pounded the table for.

          • Weapon Y

            I’m betting Chip views him a lot like Cliff Harris. He wants him nowhere near his team. He would’ve made it ugly last year if he was still at Oregon. Talk to Legarrette Blount if you have any doubt Kelly takes character seriously.

          • Kev_H

            It is more likely that Kelly drafts a mobile QB to replace Foles. When Kelly says “dumb people do dumb things” he is thinking “I’m talking about you, Colt.”

            I’m willing to bet he isn’t the most unlucky guy in the world and got caught, arrested, and jailed the first time he got involved with coke. So your “full retard” comment is ridiculous.

            So Kelly gives this guy a full scholarship, he underwhelms in college and ends up in jail. Now he comes to the combine with a chance to salvage something and underwhelms there. There is no evidence that he can be a successful professional anything and he is more comparable to Ryan Leaf and Maurice Clarett than he is to a championship player. Every penny and second spent by the NFL on Leaf and Clarett was wasted, and Kelly doesn’t come across as one fond of wasting time or suffering fools. Coddling Andy’s halfway house moved to KC.

  • GEAGLE

    Not a good day at all for the TEs…going to be interesting to see what effects today had on their stocks,,,Jace Amaro had a rough day!!

  • GEAGLE

    Greg Robinson had a jaw dropping day..only OT I seen these past two years with a ceiling comperable to Lanes…He climbed over Jake Mathews today, and Lewan helped his stock today which had started to fall

  • GEAGLE

    What’s left at today’s combine? Is it over? I thought it went to 7pm

  • cliff henny

    colt as 7th/udfa, sure give it a shot. bench pressing 225 makes no sense. after 12-15 times it becomes an anaeribic exercise, never understood it. i’d want them max’g 4 or 6 reps. it’s a very odd and singular way of measuring strength.

  • GEAGLE

    Combine rumor…Micheal Johnson will follow Mike zimmer to the Vikings. Vikings are 28m under the cap, similar to us, yet they get to sign top free agents? If they do sign MJ it most likely frees up Everson Griffin, but MJ is the bigger prize

    • anon

      unless you have a QB it doesn’t matter. They have to make big moves to get that team out of the gutter / not completely waste APs career.

  • JofreyRice

    Joel Bitonio is a little more athletic than what I thought. He looks like a 3rd rounder–still probably a guard, though. Would love to land him to bring along behind Herremans/Mathis.

  • JimmyV516

    What about Graham and 2nd for Dion Jordan? Gives both players a chance to play in schemes that fit them better?

    • Sean Stott

      maybe a straight trader. No way is Dion, who did absolutely nothing last year, worth a 1st round player who has demonstrated production in a 4-3 and a second round pick. Not in a million years.