The Ugly Harassment of Sara Ganim

“Paterno truthers” won’t give up the fight. That’s their choice. But they should decry misogynistic and sexist attacks.

Sara Ganim doesn’t need anybody to defend her. The former Patriot-News reporter has a Pulitzer Prize under her belt already—for breaking open the Jerry Sandusky scandal that ended Joe Paterno’s reign at Penn State—as well as glamorous post-scandal gig at CNN. She’s doing OK.

And yet …

A few things have become increasingly clear in recent months, particularly in the aftermath of the Paterno family’s decision to release its response to the Freeh Report: At Penn State, it may be years or decades before the trauma surrounding Sandusky and Paterno feels like anything more distant than the present tense. That there are quite a few Joe Paterno supporters out there who still feel like he was unfairly castigated for Sandusky’s decade-long evasion of authorities. That a number of them blame Ganim for besmirching Paterno’s reputation. And that a small-but-vocal number of those people are determined to hound Ganim—sometimes in ugly and frightening ways—for the sin of having committed journalism.

Twitter, it seems, has become a particularly scary venue for her. On Friday night, she posted this:

And then, as evidence of what she’s dealing with, posted this:

Now: Bucceroni’s got his own set of issues, but it’s not like he’s a complete exception here. It’s time for the harassment to stop. And it will probably require some loyal Penn Staters—the vast, vast majority of them good, blameless people—to help put an end to it.

Let’s put aside how incredibly tedious, tiresome and unavoidable the “Paterno truther” brigade has become for anyone who dares write (or even tweet) credulously about the downfall of Saint JoePa. What even the truthers should understand is this: Fighting back against Paterno’s critics by using sexually demeaning and degrading language is really not the best way to demonstrate that you have your priorities in the right place when a sex abuse scandal—and the ease with which it was overlooked—is at the heart of the whole neverending mess in the first place.

You don’t have a ton of credibility, truthers, except with each other. You reduce it further every time you call Ganim a “bitch” or suggest she’s been sleeping around. And you reduce it when you keep your silence in the face of such misogyny, just because you don’t like Ganim and her work. All of which will actively short-circuit a renaissance for Paterno’s memory, or Penn State itself.

Unfortunately, Ganim isn’t the only female journalist to face such harassment: Mother Jones’ editor Clara Jeffrey suffered days of ugly, violent, misogynistic tweets a few weeks back after wading into the gun controversy following the gun death of a retired American sniper. This stuff is routine: Women who write about unpopular subjects in unpopular ways routinely face rape threats and sexual taunts in emails, comments sections, and on social media.

Enough.

This has to stop. Women journalists shouldn’t have to be afraid to do their jobs because they’re women. And Ganim, in particular, shouldn’t be subject to a lifetime of harassment because she knocked a football coach, of all people, off his pedestal.

Ganim, to her credit, appears willing to stick it out in the Twitterverse. (Indeed, she stirred fresh anger over the weekend by criticizing the transparency of a Penn State charity.) It’s possible the Sandusky scandal won’t go away for decades, yet. But we don’t need to let the worst, ugliest, most violent voices dominate that conversation.

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  • theberklands

    BOY DID YOU MISS THE POINT! This isn’t about female journalists or even Joe Paterno. Ganim took an unnecessary pot shot in questioning THON without ever looking to find the information she was questioning….that seems to be par for the course for Ms. Ganim. If it’s not spoon fed to her, she can’t find it! I’m not supporting sexist statements, name calling or anything else, but if Ms. Ganim intends to take shots, she should expect to take a few back. Please consider this dissection of one of Ms. Ganim’s Pulitzer Prize winning articles. http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2013/02/ganim-preview-article-on-psych-reports.html A reputable journalist would have gone back to correct mistakes and update the record, but not Ms. Ganim. Why? Because she couldn’t bare to distort the narrative she helped to create and lose her big scoop. Don’t give me this “female journalist” garbage! All ANYONE wants is for journalists to start getting it right by researching the FACTS and reporting without bias…..surely that isn’t too much to ask!

    • http://twitter.com/vaf102 Vickie Fleisher-Gann

      Sara knows what she did was WRONG and she is NOT as innocent as people want to believe…The whole truth will SOON be known…

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.karsh.37 Jonathan Karsh

    Joel, I think people would have a little more respect for Sara, you and the media in general if you put a little, just a little, work into finding facts before putting words to paper. You make a few comments in the post above that are just not accurate, and sara did the same. Look up Four Diamonds, it’s really very simple. People are tired of the media, and bloggers, making insinuations without the relevant facts. Everyone knows why you do it, we’re just not putting up with it like we used to. Accountability Joel, it makes the job just a bit more difficult but in the end, it’s how it should have been from the beginning.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      Joel Mathis, I will become Sara Ganim covering Joel Mathis and tweet this: “Joel Mathis gets paid, but why won’t he pay his taxes?” I will be too lazy to check and see tha you paid your taxes, just tweet my non-factual opinion. This will make me appear to be a great investigative journalist.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=602481722 Joe McCann

        Joel is a tax cheat and tax evader? I did not know that. If it’s in print, then it is true.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

          The media opines it. Therefore it exists.

      • stephenlight

        I think this needs to be investigated…why won’t he share his tax records? What is he hiding?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

          Facts.

          • stephenlight

            Facts, in journalism? Really? I think you are too old school, my friend :)

    • Ryan

      This is rich. You think Joel and Sara are lacking the public’s respect? He works at Philly Mag and she’s a Pulitzer Prize winner. Compare that to the Paterno Truthers – you’re mocked from coast to coast for your universal breaches in taste, hero worship (OK as a kid, definitely not OK as an adult), and war on reason.

      • http://twitter.com/kbligan kevin bligan

        Explain this war on reason to me. If you’re speaking of the Freeh report and its stretches of the imagination to reach inflammatory conclusions…I’m with you. If you’ve read Freeh’s words and the collective findings in the “Paterno” report and can somehow come to your “war on reason” conclusion, we’re all eyes and ears please enlighten us.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

        Joel Mathis is a writer and stay-at-home dad living in Center City. He
        co-authors a weekly political column for Scripps Howard News Service,
        and is a regular contributor to Macworld.com.

      • stephenlight

        I’m not worried about being mocked. I am very comfortable because I can see how this whole narrative is slowly unraveling. Fasten your seatbelt, there is a lot more coming….

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.karsh.37 Jonathan Karsh

        Ryan, I know it’s difficult but read what the original post states. The lack of respect from many comes from the fact that Sara and Joel and the media in general rushes to report what they “believe” is accurate only to beat the next reporter/news outlet. Truth and accuracy have taken a back seat to sensationalism and the almighty dollar. And Ryan, I don’t believe anywhere in my post did I reference Paterno, the Sandusky crimes or my position on either. You make assumptions, and we all know where that leads.

    • Dan P

      I think you’re missing the point of the article. For me, the theme of the article is the use of ad hominems in an attempt to win an argument or squelch an opposing opinion. In my mind, those that resort to these tactics only shows how weak their point of view is.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.karsh.37 Jonathan Karsh

        Dan, I understood the point perfectly. But when you add in your own assumptions that are not based in the facts of the story or contradict those things already in evidence, your opinion loses credibility with me and many others. Rather than lower yourself to level of those you hold in contempt for their beliefs, support your argument with facts, from both sides. Joel didn’t do so, and Sara is merely lobbing grenades over the fence. Disengenous on both their parts, and frankly, tiresome.

        • Dan P

          I don’t understand. Are you saying it’s not factual that Ganim is getting harassed? That’s the material evidence of this particular theme.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.karsh.37 Jonathan Karsh

            Joel states innacurracies and Sara lobbed some idiotic comments over the wall. Rather than doing a simple Google search, she made comments relative to THON that she must have known would get under the skin of alumni and participants, past and present, of THON. I assume she did so to drive traffic since any 1st grader knows how to find data on charities and how their money is disbursed. She more than likely did it to get attention and that’s what she received, both good and bad. If Joel wants to write about social media abuse, write about all of it, not just that which fits the anti PSU narrative. People have written about murdering Jay Paterno, his mother nad the balance of his family so they can rot in hell with their husband/father/grandfather. Where is the outrage over that? There are people out there that will do these things because they can and attempting to defend Sara, who most likely knowingly knocked over the first domino, just adds to the nonsense. Don’t try and create controversy for the sake of your twitter account Sara, just report the news.

          • Dan P

            All fair points, but does it justify Ganim (or anyone for that matter) being threatened with rape because they defend an unpopular view? Don’t get me wrong…folks calling for the Paterno’s to rot in hell is just as unacceptable.

            Did she write about the Paterno’s rotting in hell?

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.karsh.37 Jonathan Karsh

            No she did not but she did make comments that she must have known would inflame a significant portion of the PSU community, and on the heels of a record breaking fund-raising event no less. I made no accusation about her referencing Paterno, merely pointed out that she got what she was most likely looking for, attention. I also only stated that Joel added fuel by making comments not based in fact. Sara would be better served to lob the questions she has about THON in the direction of The Second Mile. She won’t and I can’t understand why. I would say she is lazy based on her lack of effort in doing a simple Google search concerning Four Diamonds but I can’t say whether she is or not. Her actions certainly would lead one to conclude as such.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

    Does Sara Ganim write about anything OTHER than Penn State? A one trick pony. A pulitzer for what? It was like someone with shore front property breaking a story about the Atlantic Ocean. The world would have known anyway.

    • Ryan

      Actually almost nobody would talk to her. Many of the townsfolk slammed doors in her face despite knowing Sandusky was creepy with kids. But in a recurring theme, I guess preserving the football program’s image was more important than stopping a child predator.

      • stephenlight

        Are currying theme because the media is one big echo chamber and chases a narrative like a Labrador Retriever going after a tennis ball.

        This is all going to blow up on the wolf pack that disguises itself as ‘journalists’. Some of them may actually read the Freeh Report someday….AFTER the shoe drops of course!

  • theberklands

    Joel, on Feb. 10 Jay Paterno received the following tweet:

    “@JayPaterno than I am going to come down to Penn and murder you, Sue and the rest of your family so you can all burn in hell with ur father.”

    Where is your commentary on that harrassment, Joel?

    • http://www.facebook.com/layton.harman.7 Layton Harman

      Point and match!

    • Zack Porges

      Just because there will always be crazy people with threats of violence on every side of EVERY issue doesn’t make the senseless and repugnant use of threats and verbal abuse an acceptable part of any discourse. Especially when her “terrible crime” was that of reporting, aka, her JOB. If you find her work lacking, so be it, don’t resort to this level of vitriol. It’s only an impediment to facilitating intelligent discourse about such sensitive topics.

      • stephenlight

        Reporting? Ok, here is reporting. I wonder if Zack has done anything illegal today? Zack has not placed his day on a public calendar, has he? What might Zack be hiding?

        There. I is a reporter too!

    • stephenlight

      None..because Jay is not that most exalted of people, a “journalist”.

  • Kmortcall

    Why do you equate Greg Bucceroni as being a spokesperson for Penn State? Including his tweet as evidence about Penn State ‘truthers’ reinforces the idea that Ganim and now YOU, grasp the worst possible ‘fact’ and twist it to fit your narrative. Your and Ganim’s irresponsible ‘journalism’ inflames most reasonable people. Not very credible, or professional.

    • stephenlight

      It is a very old tool of rhetoric. You conflate two unrelated persons or story lines and thereby smear one with the other…clever enough.

  • clarie99

    Nothing to see here, folks. Someone in the media using ONE vile example to cast everyone who feels the truth is more important than ‘a good story’ in a bad light. Sir, I assure you I have seen MANY mature, respectful criticisms of Ms. Ganim’s work over the past 15 months. But, in order to push your bias you chose someone who decided to be repugnant. It’s a shame that journalism is dead and there are only a handful of people who practice the craft with the care that is essential to have it meet its true purpose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=602481722 Joe McCann

    Sara cashed in on a Pullitzer by being spoon fed lies by the AG’s office. This is not journalism. It turns out she was wrong about many things. She cashed in and moved on. Forget her. Like Corbett, the BOT and others, the truth will not be kind to her. That is her legacy

    • interestingread

      After reading this comment, I almost feel sorry for Sara. Guess she was just a the wrong place at the wrong time. Also, she must have forgotten everyting she learned in her journalism classes. So sad for Sara.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=602481722 Joe McCann

    Sara has already made her bed and shown her “journalistic” chops. Her career went from grandstanding false statements spoon-fed to her from a state AG to now reporting blow-by-blow accounts of stranded cruise passengers defacating into plastic bags. The CNN brand is perfect for her.

  • Robert Fetrow

    Greg Bucceroni did not go to Penn State for one. And secondly, he is not part of the cause to clear Joe’s name. He is not a ‘truther’ as you call individuals that they want all to know is the facts rather than the falsehoods brought by the media.

  • Ryan

    These Paterno Truthers… I don’t know why they’re so hell bent on preserving the self-manufactured sanctimonious image of a rich celebrity who they didn’t even know, but they’re really embarrassing the reasonable members of the Penn State community, which from my experience is about half of everyone and more than half of the alums.

    What grown man adores a celebrity? What grown woman buys into public relations images? Why, with all the injustice plaguing humanity, is this celebrity’s legacy worth a crusade? Would Joe Paterno do the same for them?

    I’ve never worshiped other men. I don’t wear Flyers jerseys. I don’t refer to the Eagles, Phillies etc as “We,” like “We beat the Cowboys!” Know why? Because I’m not on the team.

    People need to build a favorable self rather than intertwine their ego with celebrities they find admirable. In short, be a man. Joe Paterno should not be worth your time.

    Sara courage and integrity to investigate her own alma mater, mock the hero worship that plagued her school and community, and demand more transparency from Penn State regarding the THON finances. She’s tough and virtuous. I respect that. Hopefully she stays safe. These people are not emotionally stable, and they’re right in the heart of guns n bible country.

    • georgemcmurphy

      “Rich celebrity” — just shows you have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • Ryan

        He had a house on the beach in Avalon and real estate ventures all over Central PA. He was worth millions. Am I missing something?

        • georgemcmurphy

          Of which he gave millions in return and raised even more for the university. You make it sound like he lived like a king. I do, however, take your point — relatively speaking, though, for the time and effort he put into making Penn State a better place, and compared to what other college coaches earn and do, Paterno earned every dime of what he made.

          • Ryan

            Oh he gave money away all right…in exchange for power, immunity from criticism, his name on buildings, and statues. A lot of money isn’t enough for some people. Many would rather be adored and buy power and immunity. He was one. Sandusky was another. How don’t you know this stuff? Do you really think it’s atypical?

          • georgemcmurphy

            Then, I guess, under your rationale, he should have just kept it all and stayed disengaged.
            Is there a throne inside that library?
            Immunity?

          • Ryan

            He could’ve been the humble altruist you claim by donating anonymously. Open up any program at a gala, black tie event, or fundraiser and you’ll see a list of donors. Many have “anonymous” listed rather than their real name because they’re not donating for public recognition.

          • georgemcmurphy

            Well, I suppose he could have. I guess the irony here is that the kind of money that was raised for the university likely was because his name was attached.

          • B. A. Pudliner

            Who cares….he was a humble guy as was George. He gave of his heart and soul to that university, to complete strangers. Have you not seen the recent stories of even those non-Penn Staters, non alums that had received calls from Joe to wish them well. He never donated for public recognition, he did it for the students and the university to make it a better place…read his own autobiography

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

            Ryan the Troll, you are definitely hogging the prison computer. Let the other inmates have a chance.

          • http://twitter.com/ItsAllJoesFault It’s all Joe’s fault

            Love to hear examples of “immunity”…

            Its pretty obvious Ryan had a beef with Paterno long before the Sandusky mess. These people are nothing new. PSU probably beat the snot out of his school. Move along Ryan, you’re pissing in the wind.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

            The fact that “Ryan” called me out is proof that he is merely a Paterno hating troll. I have beaten many trolls sounding similar to “Ryan” since November 2011. Please know, I am not bragging. It’s easy. They are 100% hate. Demand facts of them, and they vanish.

          • B. A. Pudliner

            He gave no money away for power, immunity or what…he would gladly accept criticism. Have you done any research what so ever? give us an example, please if you can, a fact, cite it and give it to us. Everyone makes investments, so what. Its called legacy planning for your children…but please give us an example, cite it that he had power. Football at any university is really complicated. And you didn’t read the Clemente Report or other research out there on pedophiles, one bit. Or you would understand that predators like Sandusky hide in plain sight….

          • B. A. Pudliner

            Oh and by the way, read the new biography…he didn’t own that Avalon house for some time, he rented before he could buy. And his salary was no where near what others are being paid.

          • georgemcmurphy

            Additionally,he never went after celebrity and likely would prefer that the narrative shift to child victimization whether his name is cleared or not. Believe The Clemente Report or don’t, but that’s what needs attention now. And I’m not a Penn State alum, I just believe in due process and have become very skeptical of journalism. Also, if there are town’s people who knew, why didn’t they say something?

        • http://twitter.com/ItsAllJoesFault It’s all Joe’s fault

          Paterno’s pay was 10 out of 11 in the Big Ten after 61 years. Just dripping with power, money and influence isn’t he? How about we do something positive to prevent child abuse instead of holding sports grudges, shall we?

          • dealwithit

            Paterno could have directly intervened to stop children from being raped by a monster, yet he choose instead to not ruin anyone’s weekend. People living in cults housed in glass houses (Penn State) shouldn’t throw stones….

        • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

          Please do not give Ryan the attention he seeks…. just take a moment and read his rambling opinionated, factless comments and you’ll have the same vision of him that I have as a small sized fully bearded man living in a little shack in the mountains pecking away at his laptop commenting while taking a break from writing his manifesto. Scary huh?

          • Ryan

            What rubbish. I would never grow a beard.

    • http://twitter.com/ItsAllJoesFault It’s all Joe’s fault

      Wow, most people who completely miss the point, do it in 3 sentences or less. Ryan, on the other hand, has really gone to great lengths to build his false meme.

    • B. A. Pudliner

      How little you know of JoePa. Personally, I knew his brother and met Joe once and that moment changed my life. Little you know of Penn State or who we are. Little you know of anything associated with Penn State and JoePa was never a celebrity or had the ego of a celebrity. He was more down to earth than anyone I have ever met and got to talk to. He was not Penn State…the students, the alumni, the faculty, the staff…some of the new BOT are Penn State….

      And little you know of PS4RS…

      Sara, has been proven to have not used proper research methods in uncovering facts to support her claims. Let her correct her dialogue..fine…and admit her mistakes…

      This has never been a Penn State Scandal…this was a Jerry Sandusky Scandal, period.

      She took a pot shot at those students and the families, those kids with cancer and/or survivors. It was uncalled for. IF she had researched the chairty Four Diamonds she would not have made that tweet. Apparently you do not understand 501c3 either or that Four Diamonds is a charity independent of Penn State….but the most important is that we support these families, their kids and help to find a cure for cancer. If you had done any research you would know that PSHMC and the researchers have found a virus this past summer that may be a cure for breast cancer. But again, you are spouting off information you have no backing to.

      OH and CNN if you had noodled around Google and done some fact searching, is based in Atlanta…that comment blew your whole thought and logic out the window….

      • dealwithit

        Get a grip, Joe Paterno isn’t Jesus Christ. He was an increasingly senile and bitter old man (I also met him in 1995, and I found the experience thoroughly disagreeable), who allowed a child rapist full access to the football facilities.

        • B. A. Pudliner

          No he isn’t but then again Jesus Christ was a man just like any other and made mistakes just like any human being. JoePa wasn’t perfect and was the first to admit it. He did not allow JS to have keys to the facilities or haven’t you read any of the testimony or stuff about the trial. He did not sign off on his retirement. He wasn’t in control of his retirement package…or haven’t you done your homework on that either?

        • B. A. Pudliner

          No he wasn’t but then again Jesus Christ was just a man as well and made plenty of mistakes as any other human being. Once again, you have not done your homework. JoePa was not in charge of JS retirement and didn’t sign off on him having keys to the facilities after his retirement. Do you homework and when you have valid points get back to us. Until then, this holds no sway or water for that matter…

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

          The only person on the entire thread saying Paterno is Jesus Christ is “dealwithit”. More name calling. “senile”. “bitter”., then a false accusation about Paterno with no facts.By the way, Paterno meeting you was probably nauseating to him, “dealwithit.” aka Ryan.

          • Ryan

            This Larry guy is awesome.

      • Ryan

        Did you just say the time you met Joe Paterno ‘changed your life?’ You’re own words, not mine.

        OK. We’ll address that later after I re-attach by ass (I laughed it off).

        The only 2 people who could change my life in one meeting are Jesus and Sophia Loren circa 1966.

        And you chose some football coach.
        Man, I hope there aren’t as many of you people as I think.

        • B. A. Pudliner

          Yes I did Ryan…he gave me some sage advice to follow my passions in life, what makes me happy and stop trying to please other people. That this is my life and I am it’s captain. That hit home at a time I was questioning myself. So you want to play this game and draw out hateful words but really I won’t bend. You don’t know Joe. Period end of sentence.

          Jesus was just a man, flawed as anyone else. Nothing more nothing less in my book. Human like the rest of us. He too gave good advice and that was to listen, to hear other people and not cast the first stone of indignation against those that can’t fight back. Common sense.

          I have met people just like you in my life that have influenced it. We all have moments that propel us from a limited awareness to a greater awareness. The problem is, many are judging others without the truth. We all want due process but very few get it. And that is what happened to Joe. We are quick to judge and write a story or spout off thoughts without thinking. And that is what happened here on both sides. And you can’t argue with that logic.

    • stephenlight

      Sara displayed a great ability to take good notes and steer the entire story to Paterno and away from 2nd Mile and the AG’s office….just as the AG wanted….and all that will soon be tumbling out….

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      CNN?. Oh yes, they announced that the Supreme Court declared the Affordable Health Care Act unconstitutional. [For 30 minutes!!!!]. Before “erm, we are now getting conflicting reports”. LMAO. Sara Ganim and CNN belong together. They will get along like peas and carrots. Interview: “Your right Sara, facts are totally unimportant! We never use them either. You’re hired!”

      • dealwithit

        Here’s from facts: http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/transcript-joe-paterno-grand-jury-testimony-29933

        Penn State, from Spanier on down to Paterno, dropped the ball on Sandusky.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

          Facts? Facts of what? The GJ test…..?? And??

          • dealwithit

            That was under oath. If Paterno was as ethical as you people claim him to be (and everyone with a functioning brain knows that he isn’t, but I disgress), his wish that he could have “done more” is damning….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Berton/100002814677581 Tim Berton

    It seems like the author jumps to conclusions just like Freeh.. The offensive tweet makes no mention of Paterno. What other stories has Ganim written that might have upset people?

    Maybe the person who tweeted is upset about something else or just a “nutjob” with no agenda.

    • Jake

      the author is a mainstream media zombie. the scandal had nothing to do with PSU. it was all sandusky and his charity. yet it was presented to the public as a PSU problem. PSU has been stripped away from what it was, and PSU did nothing wrong. it’s an embarrassment to journalism to support such a false narrative. calling people “truthers” is immature. truthers was a term used to describe those who theorize about what happened on 9/11. this is totally different. this time the conspiracy theorist were the mainstream media whose false narrative has been debunked.

      • Ryan

        Holy shit, you’re a 9/11 Truther. I can tell by your misuse of the word “theorize.” Are you an Obama Birther too?

  • georgemcmurphy

    You’re use of the phrase “a sex abuse scandal—and the ease with which it was overlooked—is at the heart of the whole neverending mess in the first place” shows that you need to do a little research. Read The Clemente Report. Whatever you believe.

  • Ryan

    Anyone else’s wierdo detector going off reading these comments? Mine just about exploded, so I Googled this Larry Leise fellow who’s obsessively commenting, and let’s just say I was right to be suspect. He’s literally the ring leader of the Paterno Truthers, otherwise known as – get this – Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship.

    Nothing unstable about these folks, no sir. Perfectly normal.

    I like this quote, which he delivered to ESPN: “The only thing Joe Paterno did wrong was follow procedure.”

    Someday maybe I’ll understand the phenomena of hero worship. Actually no I won’t. Ever.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lori-Shipley/703047159 Lori Shipley

      Larry? Ring leader of Penn Staters for Responsible Leadership?HAHAHAHAHAHAHA – shows how little you know about research! Did you read one post of his that happened to be on that page? Do REAL research before spouting off – but what should I expect from someone with your outlook?

    • http://www.facebook.com/amy.hegel Amy Mearns Hegel

      Larry Leise a “ring leader” at PS4RS? I’ll be sure to let them know.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      Ryan, you can stalk me, my fee is $200/ month.

      • theberklands

        Thank you Larry, our fearless leader!

      • stephenlight

        Hail Larry ! :)

  • http://twitter.com/ItsAllJoesFault It’s all Joe’s fault

    Joel, Sara’s shortcomings are specifically documented here: http://notpsu.blogspot.com Maybe you can tell us which part of this you disagree with and why.

    Awaiting your response.

    • bigyaz

      All of you are missing the point: You can be critical of her work and try to make an intelligent argument. That’s fine. But calling her vulgar, sexist names — and this isn’t just a few nutjobs, it’s a lot of you — make you and your cause lose any credibility or sympathy.

  • MJK

    Isn’t it odd that one of the “truthers” in this case, Jim Clemente, is a former FBI agent who had made his life’s work the take down of child predators. He has made it clear that he has NO love for or connection to Penn State. He told the Paterno’s that if he found Joe Paterno acted in ANY WAY to protect Sandusky or keep his vile acts silent he would say so and say it loudly. He is a sexual abuse survivor himself. And he has the expertise to know and understand more about this case than anyone in the press or outside of the press. And Jim Clemente says that Joe Paterno, Tim Curley and Graham Spanier are blameless.

    And yet, people like Joel Mathis, the REAL “truthers”. deny what he says. And they deny it without ever even listening to him.

    This is what “truthers” do. They pick and choose their own facts. And they ignore anything that contradicts their narrative.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YYE5GI5GJ3A7W44P5AADJTBSZY none of y

      Maybe Joel Mathis is on his back and knees taking a mouthful from someone paying him off?

    • NotSoBean

      Jim didn’t work this case and those who did implicated joepa in the cover up. I like how you picked and chose which evidence to consider, and then railed against your detractors for doing the same.

      • http://twitter.com/a4kcookies Momma Cook

        Did you read both reports? AND NOT JUST THE SUMMARIES? This is the frustration that exists for many. If you are going to make comments or call people names, at least do the research so you can make informed opinions. There is no need to be disrespectful, but in order to debate an issue, you should be using facts, not opinions. Once you have objectively read all the information, then an honest discussion can occur.

  • http://twitter.com/emtfr Nellie R

    Although I do not condone the personal attacks, I think that anyone looking for the truth and not the half-baked versions most of the media have given in this case has a right to critique a journalist’s work by using the facts.

    If the work is “credible” it will stand on its own.

    If a journalist goes back later and corrects or admits they got something wrong, they are praised for doing so.

    If a journalist has to resort to petty labeling, such as in this article, then they are not really a journalist.

  • JoeyJ

    A Pulitzer?? BFD! So did Janet Cooke. Go look her up genius

    • http://www.facebook.com/layton.harman.7 Layton Harman

      Ouch!

  • JoeyJ

    So let me get this straight. One guy sent Ganim a sexist email and that entitles Joel to condemn anyone who dares to question the false narrative that the media has concocted about Paterno’s involvement in the Sandusky affair. It would be nice if Joel and his fellow “journalists” would get off their butts and actually practice journalism, but that would probably require alot of work wouldn’t it?

    As far as Sara;s tweet Sunday night goes, she chose the moment that these kids were reveling in their tremendous accomplishment to send out a tweet full of innuendo and no facts. But that apparently is what journalism has become. Keep up the good work Joel.

  • B. A. Pudliner

    Welcome to Social Media? It isn’t a nice sandbox to play in all the time…just like life…we all knew that going in, at least I did….just make sure you pull your head out of the sand and see reality…

  • stephenlight

    There is no excuse for the kind of language that Joel cites here. On the other hand, valid criticism of Ms. Ganim for the narrative she helped build straight out of the AG’s office is quite acceptable. As events unfold this will become more clear. Her weekend tweet on a charity that just raised $12 million dollars for pediatric cancer was gratuitous and ignored documented filings that were east to find. She should expect objections to that kind of behavior, because it is simple irresponsible. If you, or she, have any facts you want to share on how monies raised for pediatric cancer were misused, then start with the filings and ask questions. THAT, however, would require investigative reporting….which she is not familiar with. What she is familiar with is taking a narrative fed to her and making it the sensational tag line….and it worked for her! Again, you should expect opposing views to surface when you do that. You should expect those views to be sarcastic, but I agree you should not expect those views to be on rough language terms.

    • http://www.facebook.com/adingus Aileen Dingus

      This is the point Joel is making.

      Why are Sara Ganim’s critics resorting to sexist remarks to combat her ill-timed and ill-researched tweets vis a vis Four Diamonds? I’ve seen her called a “bitter bitch” a “c***” (self censorship- that’s my least favorite word EVER) a “quim” of some sort and who knows what else. If a man had written those tweets- what would we be calling him?

      The fact that she’s a WOMAN should have no bearing on the fact that she’s turned out to be a pretty weak journalist. But people are bringing her gender into the argument, and that weakens the whole discussion.

      For full disclosure- I know Joel personally AND I am a proud Penn State alum.

      • theberklands

        The tweet he highlighted is from Greg Bucceroni who has his own ax to grind with Sara Ganim…..that has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Penn State! Were there other examples of these kinds of remarks by Penn Staters? People were pissed off and rightly so that Sara would take issue with something she had NO KNOWLEDGE of on a day when Penn State was feeling an tremendous amount of pride in it’s student body and generations of people who have put their hearts and souls into THON. It was a cheap shot and she knows it! I am not condoning the remarks by Greg Bucceroni OR Sara Ganim…..both were WRONG!

        • http://www.facebook.com/adingus Aileen Dingus

          Yep. Onward State posted about the tweets, you can see responses there and on the Onward State Facebook page.

      • stephenlight

        Why? Because this is the Internet, where all manner of idiots can indulge themselves…..it is hardly unique to Penn State AND if any of those who made those comments are grads of Penn State, then I feel even worse about it. They should not. However, maligning THON is not a real sweet piece of work either!

  • stephenlight

    Joel, here is the incredibly hard to research story about where THON funds go…
    http://onwardstate.com/2013/02/19/a-common-misconception-where-does-thons-money-go/

    If you wonder why some of us might think that Ms. Ganim’s credibility is suspect, you can cite this as example one, in a long line of sloppy commentary. If you think the source is slanted, I invite you to go do your own research. Pediatric cancer at the Hershey Medical center is a topic of interest and can be sourced independently, if you were so inclined.

    But, mot likely you aren’t so inclined. Instead, you (and Ms. Ganim) will leave this slanderous tweet floating out these in cyber-land to further slander the entire THON enterprise…one wonders why….

    In any event, though personal and rough language should not be used…let me say by way of understatement that any journalist that would tweet a story idea of malfeasance occurring at a documented cancer charity is at least irresponsible and bearing false witness….you might remember that amongst the commandments, even if it does not appear in any ethical guidelines in the profession of journalism.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      Like his heroine Sara, Joel will never read where THON money goes. Both look upon facts as obstacles to a story.

  • theberklands

    Sara’s questions answered….. http://onwardstate.com/2013/02/19/a-common-misconception-where-does-thons-money-go/
    Greg Bucceroni may have stepped over the line but so did Sara Ganim and none of this has anything to do with the fact that she’s a woman!

    • http://www.facebook.com/adingus Aileen Dingus

      Exactly. That’s the point of this article. Well, at least the main point. I don’t agree that she “knocked a football coach off his pedestal.” Sandusky knocked himself off by being a criminal, and JoePa was knocked off by people waaaay more powerful than Sara Ganim.. Joel and I continue to discuss that. 😉

      • Jake

        Sara Ganim is getting what she deserves. she murdered JoePa by creating the scandal. she put herself out there. she scarred PSU and no one can forgive her for that.

        and no, i’m not a “truther’. and yes i care a lot about child victims. but Sara Ganim f***ed with something you just don’t mess with. she messed with PSU, and Joe Paterno. that’s bad karma for Sara Ganim. karma’s a bitch in this case. her latest post about how PSU should open its books “like most charities” just shows how naive she is. that’s been the whole problem from day one with the scandal, how PSU has been treated like a charity, but PSU isn’t a charity. Sara Ganim has the entire scandal on her shoulders. It must be tough. I’m glad I’m not her.

        • http://www.facebook.com/adingus Aileen Dingus

          Really, Jake? Sara Ganim created the scandal? No. Jerry Sandusky created the scandal by being a monster. Sara Ganim reported about it.

          You’re making Penn State and Penn Staters look bad with your idiotic comment “she messed with PSU and Joe Paterno.”

          To put it another way- do you think Joe Paterno would be proud of you for what you just wrote? Do you think he’d slap you on the back and say “Good job. Way to represent your university.”

          • Jake

            Aileen, Penn State already looks bad. Joe Paterno was railroaded by an out of control rush to injustice mainstream media. Sara Ganim started it all.

            Any way you slice it, Sara Ganim put this out there without thinking of the ramifications. once the scandal got going, she got hired by CNN. she literally used pedophilia to propel her career and her “journalism” have negatively impacted hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. it’s disgusting, and she’s no hero.

            then as if that wasn’t enough, she puts out a tweet the other day about how she “doesn’t understand why PSU doesn’t open their books like other charities”. Um Sara dear, PSU isn’t a charity! it’s a university. and ever since her scandal, the new PSU have opened their books more then ever, and by doing that they let the NCAA sanction them without any due process.

            we still haven’t even had the trial of the PSU admins that supposedly conspired to cover up something, when in reality they were just following the law.

            Ms. Ganim put herself out there, and continues to act like everything that happened is perfectly normal. she created this madness so she shouldn’t complain when people speak their mind.

            she goes around acting like she’s this big hero and she’s not. alieen, would Joe Paterno be proud of me for my comment? that’s not for me to say, PSU isn’t my university. I’m not representing PSU. Joe Paterno would be very troubled obviously by what has happened to PSU. he worked his whole life to do good and put PSU in the best position he could for the future. and PSU was doing great, but then Sara Ganim and the rest of the mainstream media clowns made this sandusky scandal all about PSU and it won’t ever be the same again.

            Joe Paterno would still be alive today if it wasn’t for people like Sara Ganim.

        • Ryan

          OK I’m gonna close my eyes for a sec, re-open them, and re-read, b/c I’m pretty sure I just read that Sara Ganim murdered JoePa by creating the PSU Child Rape Scandal. I must’ve read it wrong. I’m sure it’ll be a bit more clear later today.

          • http://twitter.com/SteveTSRA Steve

            Please don’t take this crazy person’s views as representing Penn State students, alums, fans, etc., he only represents his crazy self (and a few other loud, crazy people along with him)

          • Jake

            Sara Ganim has a great deal of responsibility when it comes to this scandal. this jump started her career. the scandal and all the shenanigans that followed killed Joe Paterno. so 2+2=4. things like “the truthers” and “the Penn state cult” were created by the scandal. they don’t exist outside of the minds of people who are cult like followers of the media. they have to create these names to compensate for their own craziness.

            Ganim obviously didn’t directly murder Paterno, but her crusade sent Paterno to his death. Steve, what’s crazy is the scandal that Ganim created. and her tweets about how PSU should open it’s books “like most charities”.

            Sara Ganim can try to act like everything is normal all she wants. but how can you sympathize with her when she starts crying and whining when people don’t agree with her agenda?

  • Mike Hunt

    She needs to tell the truth of what happened at PSU.

  • Mike Hunt

    What, Joel is a tax cheat???

    • stephenlight

      That’s what I’ve heard and he hasn’t said otherwise, so it must be true! Plus, no records, a telltale sign, no?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571634606 Joel Mathis

    For what it’s worth: Scott Paterno spoke up tonight. I hope that everybody who is weighing in here has a chance to see this: Scott Paterno Condemns Harassment of Sara Ganim

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571634606 Joel Mathis
      • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

        Why no mention of her tweet accusing THON, a student ran event for raising money for children with cancer, of misdeeds with the distribution of their money. On the day the students announce their monumental accomplishment of raising over $12 million, your idol Sara tries to discredit them with her tweet, without taking even a moment to type a couple of words in Google. My 15 year old found all the necessary distribution information in about 3 minuets and Sara a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter couldn’t find it and had to purposely try her best to belittle the student’s achievements?? Please tell both side of the story.

        • Ryan

          She lauded the students. She questioned PSU’s lack of financial transparency compared to other charities.

          • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

            The THON Website clearly shows how the Penn State students distribute the money and lists the percentages that goes to “The Four Diamond Fund”. At that point the funds are Four diamonds…. Now go their page and do a little research on Google and you can find answers to all of that. But I suspect SG never even took a moment to look or ask any of those questions. She say an opprotunity to spread hate and took it. But because you are clearly a “Ganim Truther”. I’ll ask you why ask the question them, at that time, right after 15,000 students finish a year of work??

          • dealwithit

            You have to be REALLY naive to think the students are in charge of handling over 12 million dollars. Then again, you’re buying the whole Paterno myth anyway, so there you go.

    • stephenlight

      Yes, a better man than I am. Wonder where he learned such forbearance and class?

      • Ryan

        Asking people to defeat their psychopathology by not harassing female journalists with chants of bitch, c_nt, and accusations of sleeping her way to the top doesn’t require forbearance and class. It requires sanity and reason.

        You’re in dire need of culture and virtue, my man. That goes for all of you Truthers.

        • stephenlight

          Fortunately, I am not in dire need of either culture or virtue. And I can assure you that I have the credentials to back that assertion up. However, my virtue and culture have nothing to do with what will soon be tumbling out of the next legal revelations. Hold tight, it is yet to be a very interesting ride….

          • dealwithit

            LOL no you don’t anonymous internet poster guy….and if you went to Penn State, the “center” of culture indeed (LOL), you need remedial lessons in class, dignity, etc, etc….

            Just like that fruit Franco “I”m afraid of Jack Tatum” Harris and his cardboard cutout of Pedterno.

    • theberklands

      I commented on that post too Joel. The Paternos are classy and as you can see on many of the comments here, people are not in large part supporting name calling and sexist remarks! But Sara Ganim got A LOT wrong in her reporting. She is not responsible for all of it but she had the ability to dig deeper and do more and she chose not to. That contributed to the narrative. If you want to talk harrassment, talk to the Paterno family! Has Sara ever spoken out and asked people to stop harrassing them? You don’t need to look at her tweet list to find the answer to that question. And the fact remains, the entire premise of your article here was WAY OFF the mark. This isn’t about women or nasty twitter remarks. This is about the truth and Sara Ganim still doesn’t know how to report that.

  • dealwithit

    Penn State Truthers – Ganim has the right to question EVERYTHING on that campus. From St. Joe Pa, to how the entire school administration (including the athletic department) dealt with Sandusky’s crimes, to how 10% of the THON money actually goes to some hole-in-the-wall hospital in Hershey instead of a true research hospital that might actually DO something, with the rest of the THON money going to the general fund.

    Penn State has been operating on the dark side of ethical for years and now the egg shell is finally starting to crack. Those of you who need to resort to threats, insults and childish name calling need to grow up or leave the internet as it is entirely too complicated for you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      You ARE speaking into a mirror right,”dealwithit”?…”Those of you who need to resort to threats, insults and childish name calling need to grow up or leave the internet as it is entirely too
      complicated for you”…Really? .Let’s see..you use “truthers”….”SAINT Joe”… “hole-in-the wall”…”dark side of ethical”…”egg shell”…..Go back to your “I hate Penn State ” cult meeting tonight and brag about what you do. And YOU should leave the internet with your hatred………Oh, and stop changing you anonymous facebook names “Ryan”. . “dealwithit”…LOL.

      • dealwithit

        Ummm Larry, my name isn’t Ryan. Haha.

        As for anything else, describing what Penn State actually is and has been (shall I go into Paterno’s shuffling of struggling players to branch campuses to keep his academic “record”), is hardly a childish insult, it’s the unvarnished and entirely open secret (along with Sandusky’s philandering’s on campus. Pull your head out of the sand and smell the flowers.

        There’s also a reason why Penn State immediately and completely collapsed to the NCAA – they had NO central compliance apparatus, an actual investigation into the entire athletic department would have revealed that not only was football very very dirty, so is wrestling and so are several of the ‘olympic’ sports.

        Deal with it, oh and get ready to deal with the Clery Act violations too.

        • theberklands

          You’re spouting off allegations with no basis….wait, maybe you’re Sara Ganim! You have fallen victim by being a media lap dog but hey, dogs ARE cute. Please feel free to link your sources on your above statements because we’d all love to read about this corruption in PSU athletics.

          • dealwithit

            Prove me wrong – like any good Mafia don, ol Joe didn’t write ANYTHING down. Half of the episodes from the Sopranos were an exact duplicate of how Paterno ran the football program. Be honest with yourself, he’s a fallible man who admitted UNDER OATH that he wished he had done more. And why do you think that is? Because he knew his entire persona was built on being moral and having impeccable integrity, but this Sandusky scandal would shine a huge bright light on the roach-haven that is State College. Guess what? Like roaches that have had the light turned on them, the Paterno worshipers are scrambling to any cover they can find, including insulting Pulitzer prize winning journalists.

          • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

            I just spit my coffee all over my office when I read your comment. You pass yourself off as someone who knows stuff and then continue your comment full of false items. (1) I’ll ask you to back any of your comments with facts. (2) If you had read the Freeh Report you would know that Joe wrote lots of things down and kept many notes but of which were shown in the Freeh Report. What Joe didn’t do was use email. (2) I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW if you can show me evidence that Joe “admitted UNDER OATH that he wished he had done more.” He did say to a new reporter standing out side his house, “with the benefit of hindsight I wish I would had done more”. obvious you have never heard this before so i’ll explain it to you. “If he knew in 2001, what he knew in 2011 (thats called hindsight), he wish he would had done more in 2001. (3) This Greg Bucceroni guy who insulted sara Ganim was very wrong in his approach..However Greg Bucceroni is well know in this Sandusky Sandal. He is not a Penn State grad, he is not a Penn State fan, he doesn’t represent us, he is not a Paterno “Truther”. He has nothing to do with Penn State. The author of this story is reaching trying to tie him to Penn State. Google his name and you’ll see he is someone who said Sandusky molested him and was part of a statewide child porn ring. When your comment is full of false statements you lose all credibilty for not only that commment but all your comments.

          • PlatosCave2

            “Be honest with yourself, he’s a fallible man who admitted UNDER OATH that he wished he had done more. ”
            Wow…so easy to refute THIS one. You’re confusing his testimony with his statement that he released to the media. And you even managed to take THAT out of context. Media statements are not made under oath.
            How can people take anything you say seriously when you can’t get a basic fact correct?

          • theberklands

            Wow! Thanks for all of that “evidence”. You have got some reading to catch up on!

          • http://www.facebook.com/tspeck63 Todd Speck

            Please everyone copy his comment above before her deletes it….. and then anytime he writes anything, post it. also keep in mind he’ll probably delete that account out of embarrassment and start a new one…so watch for him.

          • dealwithit

            I’m not deleting anything, nor am I this Ryan person or Sarah Ganim. You guys can have your Jonesboro there in State College, just drink the kool-aid already and spare the rest of us with functioning mental capacities.

          • Ryan

            No he’s not Sara Ganim. He’s me. Ask your boy Larry. I’d trust his word. He looks completely normal.

        • Ryan

          Hi, ‘dealwithit.’ I hear you’re me. Are you the future me, by chance? I was kinda wondering if I keep my hair.

          • dealwithit

            Hi there Ryan – I’m not sure. Apparently telling Pedsters that their false idol was a fallible human being whose lack of moral standing resulted in kids continuing to be raped at the Penn State facilities means I’m you….or something.

            Anyway – Penn State fans are now exposed for all to see. Good luck rebuilding that rep numbnuts.

      • Ryan

        Oh man, you thought that was me. I love it. Lemme guess – I’m secretly the writer. And “dealwithit,” amirite or amirite?

        I just don’t understand the hero worship coming from an adult, Larry. Why? There’s a lot of injustice throughout humanity, yet you choose this guy to defend. Any reason? Is it that you’ve intertwined your ego so tightly with his image that you can’t admit he was a fraud? Explain it to me. I’m fascinated with your motivation. It’s a culture I’ve never experienced.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chris.chirigos Chris Chirigos

    Sara Ganim is utterly incompetent and unable to do basic researcg. Her reception of a Pulitzer Prize is a joke and a blemsih on what was once a respected award for important, dangerous, or revolutionary journalism.

  • Jake

    Lets just take Sara Ganim’s tweet from 2/17/13, 6:09PM

    “It’s pretty cool what the students sacrifice, but I can’t understand why PSU doesn’t open up its books like every other charity.”

    First of all, how is this mess you created cool Sara? How is sacrificing PSU students cool?

    She doesn’t understand why PSU doesn’t open up its books like every other charity?

    This makes no sense whatsoever! She’s treating PSU like a charity? that’s sums up the entire scandal right there. There is something very wrong with this. PSU now has been messed up! It’s no longer the same thing it used to be, and it’s all because of Sara’s lack of understanding about how the world works.

    She started the firestorm that made a charity scandal a PSU scandal. And not only that, but she rubs it in with outrageous comments like that. The kicker is PSU has no obligation to “open up its books”, but the new PSU did exactly that, and gave Freeh access to all their confidential emails. PSU is more “transparent” then ever, so transparent in fact you can hardly see it! PSU is doing exactly what she wants, even when they don’t have to, and here she is complaining that they aren’t opening up their books.

    The students have sacrificed enough Sara. it’s time for you to sacrifice. Repent!

  • stephenlight

    I wonder when Ms. Ganim will reciprocate with a plea not to malign and threaten the health and safety of Jay Paterno and family? There have been death threats on Twitter, yet a total silence from the media on that score.

    But of course, Jay is not that most exalted of people, a journalist. It always amuses me that when any of the Members of the Fourth Estate are subjected to the same treatment they regularly inspire regarding the rest of the nation, there is much wailing and whining about how unfair it is.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      “Journalists” can dish it out, but can’t take it. The inferior ones can’t even pay the rent., so they resort to manufacturing Penn State stories for that purpose. Obviously, Joel Mathis is now 3 weeks behind on the rent, and the landlord is getting angry.

  • B. A. Pudliner

    I do not like the nasty name calling. we can debate without the use of nasty stuff…but that is the nature of social media, people spout out things without thinking

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1179566052 Jeff Goldsmith

    The kind of post that you referenced is never acceptable. But you chose an extreme sample that does not represent the majority of Penn Staters. As noted by others, not only Paterno but members of his family have been targets of far worse social media commentary. Frankly, I’m wondering what it was that Ganim did to earn her Pulitzer. She received a tip which may have come from the Attorney General’s office which wanted a story written to draw out more victims. It may have been a smart move on their part but took no investigatory work on Ganim’s part. Then she reported on the story as new developments came out. I have nothing personally against Ganim and the kind of attack you cite above is way off base. But questioning her professionalism with the kind of remark she made about Thon, is not out of line in the slightest.

    • Kurtis

      Amen, Jeff. It’s scary how many people don’t get have any common sense about the situation. She’s not respected by those who have followed her on this story, and simply is trying to stir up chatter, but then whines about harassment from begin irresponsible. I think most people can’t take the emotion out of it and just look at facts.

  • RaconsMom

    Ganim needs to look at her own integrity…

  • Kurtis

    Funny, Joel, how you mention “journalism” in your little “blog”. Real journalists used to report facts to write stories- not throw out unsubstantiated speculation like your little girlfriend is doing about PSU of late. Real journalists earn respect for their REPORTING of stories, not from their work on a grade school tool like Twitter. She is now making her own bed throwing out rumors and speculation on Twitter- apparently she is not woman enough to face the consequences of tweeting total crap. Whatever she gets she deserves. She’s the one making a career off of others hard luck in the Sandusky scandal. No one respects that. If she wants to be a real journalist then she should act like one.

    • Ryan

      “Whatever she gets she deserves”
      -Kurtis

      Soooooooooooo I’m starting to think you Paterno Truthers aren’t quite as image savvy as JoePa was, huh.

      • Kurtis

        Don’t categorize me into your generalizations. I don’t judge what anyone at PSU did or didn’t do because I haven’t yet seen enough facts, and no trial has taken place. Have you? But I do know that when a so- called “journalist” throws blood to a bunch of sharks (that she choose to swim with) and then get’s bitten…..well, she asked for it! Maybe if she used some “facts” before running her mouth on twitter she could avoid harassment? Doesn’t seem to complicated of a concept, huh Ryan?

  • cmm

    That tweet had nothing to do about Joe Paterno. She made an extremely ignorant comment about another topic. Please fact check before you write an article like this.

  • http://twitter.com/AppleEris Eris Miller

    Personally, I’m not very interested in the status of Paterno.
    However, I find it disgusting that rape threats and death threats are being made because someone wrote something that bugged someone.
    Disagree with Ganim, very well, refute her on a point-per-point basis. Go ahead, on social media, on her blog. If she is a hypocrite, expose her as such. But rape threats and death threats are an insult to our common humanity. They say nothing about Ganim, and everything about the people insulting her.

    • theberklands

      I’m sorry….when was Sara Ganim threatened with rape or death? The only threats I’ve heard have been directed at the Paterno family.

  • BriteBlonde1

    After reading all these horrid posts, defending this coach who has taken on God like qualities and followers, while totally ignoring the focus of the article – which is the unacceptable threats and sexual accusations made to female journalists – then I believe it’s high time to shut down the abomination that is Penn State football and all the sheep following this false god can go begging for another false icon to follow. Even more distressing if the vitriol directed at the women who should be granted respect in lieu of know-nothings insulting the role of journalism. Wow. It’s a lost cause.

    • theberklands

      Were you involved in the goings on with Sara Ganim on Twitter? If not, you have no idea what you’re talking about. This entire thing had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with her being a woman!

      • dealwithit

        but it had everything to do with a segment of the Penn State cult doing what trash does….

  • roaminglion

    All I can say is that the vast majority of PSU alumni are not doing stupid stuff like this. However, giving it this much attention makes it seem like they are.

    I don’t think Sara is a very good reporter. Her career before and after the scandal has been marginal at best, and quite honestly her reporting on the scandal wasn’t very good either. She was just “there”, but I guess that’s enough. I remember a radio host commenting on Sandusky 6 months before anything happened, yet Sara is given all this credit. She deserves some credit for sticking with it I guess, but her writing and reporting in general aren’t very good.

    Case and point: This 4 diamonds debacle. Penn State does not even run the charity, yet she is saying they should “open the books” on it. How exactly are they supposed to do that when they don’t run it? It’s a private charity. A charity that, incidentally, publishes an annual report detailing where the money goes to boot. Located directly on their webpage. A reporter would know these things, well a good one anyway.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RSDZCFCUIURQ2AX5SNIDFR42JY Mike Hunt

    Joel you are a tool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lori-Shipley/703047159 Lori Shipley

    I can think of only two reasons why Joel would write this article.
    1. He’s got a thing for Sara.
    or
    2.He doesn’t give a flip for Sara and is just using this, because he knows it’s controversial, to get clicks.
    Either way, he’s a toad.

  • Diane DiPiero

    Joel, death threats were given to Jay and Scott Paterno on Twitter not long after the Paterno Report was released. Did I miss your column calling for that to stop? I agree that no one should harass Sara or Jay or Scott or anyone else, but we should be allowed to question her investigative thoroughness regarding the Sandusky situation. Scott Paterno is correct when he says you should disagree politely.

  • tjm101

    So, if those who defend Paterno’s right to due process are considered “truthers,” I guess that makes those determined to force the media agenda and destroy reputations without a hearing “liars.” Therefore, Joel, you are a liar.

    By the way, Buccaroni is NOT a Penn State alumni, and categorizing him as being typical of everyone defending Paterno’s reputation is either sloppy journalism, or evidence of your agenda. So which is it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003598372755 Cletus Barsch

    Wow, the Paterno Truthers are even more batsh*t crazy than I originally believed. When you have no evidence to support your claims to resort to rationalizations and character attacks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise

      Wow, the Paterno haters are even more batsh*t crazy than I originally
      believed. When you have no evidence to support your claims to resort to
      rationalizations and character attacks.

      • dealwithit

        Keep following your false idol Larry….it was hilarious when the Rally for Resignations (the first one) played all you marks for the rubes you are, but what is funnier is the man himself said he could have done more, but you people have centered your entire self-profile on one fallible and simply corrupt football coach.

        Must suck to be you….

        • John

          Another misquote, not surprising. Paterno never said that he could have done more. He said that with the benefit of hindsight, he wishes he had done more. that’s just the kind of guy that he was. And if people like you would do their own research instead of just believing what you’re told, you would know that Paterno told Tim Curley (his boss) and Gary Schultz (chief of campus police) exactly what McQueary told him. Get your facts straight and have some proof to back yourself up before you slander a good man.

  • disqus_EavYDvXvxW

    Oh please. Someone that does not investigate or write the truth should not hide behind the veil of being a journalist..especially sacrificing the reputation of an honorable man for a Pulitzer Prize based on lies and innuendos.
    Proud to join the former Atty General as a PSU/Patermo Truther. Better than being a liar like Sara

  • PlatosCave2

    Here’s the amusing thing about journalists, I mean reporters, I mean bloggers like Joel Mathis: they walk into a movie that is two-thirds of the way over and think they understand the plot and characters.

    First, lumping Greg Bucceroni into the Penn State crowd is dishonest. Greg’s issue with Sarah is separate and concerns how she covered his story about an underground pedophile ring that abused him as a child in the 70’s. The so-called Penn State “truthers” are concerned about the shoddy journalism that seems to be ignoring a much larger story in favor of the established narrative about Penn State covering up for Jerry Sandusky. (Notice nobody refers to people who have swallowed this narrative as “Freeh truthers” even though they have less evidence and facts to back up their narrative.)

    And here’s the best part about folks like Sarah Ganim and Joel Mathis – because they “publish” online, they leave a nice paper trail on their mocking attitude towards the Penn Staters that feel people have been slandered and justice has not been done. They wonder why journalists are ignoring the obvious bigger story that The Second Mile is where the scandal really originated and fermented. People wonder why Sarah Ganim received a Pulitzer Prize for getting leaked information spoon-fed to her from the Harrisburg Attorney General office while at the same time large trucks were shredding documents at The Second Mile.

    And the people mocking Penn State “truthers” – their words will persist, and will frankly come back to haunt them. Rather than blogging their opinions, PERHAPS these pseudo-journalists could actually do some research and some digging. Alas, no – they fall into the “move on” camp with those claiming “the story is over” and “there is nothing to see here” or “no new facts.” Well, its these people that will look like the biggest fools shortly. People will soon ask why Sarah Ganim failed to uncover the big emerging story or how Louis Freeh apparently missed the obvious. What all these so-called “journalists” seem to miss is what has quickly become the worst kept secret in Centre County. The FBI has gotten involved, and no – it is NOT to investigate violations of the Clery Act. How in the world can people like Sarah Ganim continue to tweet misconceptions about THON and people like Joel Mathis continue to plant strawman arguments while the biggest story in decades is right there IF THEY BOTHERED to do some research.

    Penn State “truthers” aren’t going to look like conspiracy nuts in a few weeks, and perhaps Greg Bucceroni is going to be vindicated after all. If you think venom towards Sarah Ganim is bad now, wait until she is blindsided by a rash of indictments that exposes something far deeper and more sinister than runs from The Second Mile down to Harrisburg. Going to turn out that the Penn State “nuts” were right to keep asking questions all along and that Sarah Ganim really isn’t much beyond a “local reporter” who was randomly picked to get a good scoop and inadvertently participate in the real cover-up. Perhaps with more experience and less naiveté Ganim would have recognized what was really happening.

    I’ve got my popcorn ready and looking forward to the next couple of weeks. And I’ll be back to mock Joel Mathis and his snotty little “truther” attitude.

  • interestingread

    This is funny! You said she committed journalism. Ha ha!!! That’s a real knee-slapper!! She wouldn’t know journalism if it smacked her in the face!! lol

  • Jimmy Wang

    So glad this is reaching a national level. Just continues to show how sick PSU fans are. Hope your still burning in hell Joe Pa. Hopefully Jerry will join you soon.

  • oldbobbydraper

    these people are defending child rapist enablers, and you expect them to be sensitive to feminist topics? dream on.

    • Jake

      question to you : have you ever heard the term “child rapist enabler” used before this scandal?

      • oldbobbydraper

        yes, i have. and you would have too, if you’d pull your head out of your ass and consume news from sources other than “coast to coast AM”.

        • Jake

          i don’t listen to coast to coast AM. and i’m not defending child rapist enablers. you shouldn’t throw around terms like that loosely. you’re trying to make anyone that doesn’t stomp on Paterno’s grave seem like a crazy conspiracy theorist.

          you’re the conspiracy theorist for believing that this was some PSU conspiracy involving Joe Paterno and other PSU admins. In reality they were just following the law. there were confidentiality laws in Pa. pertaining to child abuse allegations. it would have been illegal for anyone at PSU to “do more”. they had no proof of anything, only a vague allegation by McQueary. the actual victim from the 2001 incident is on record saying nothing happened that night.

          they didn’t hide any evidence, they didn’t hinder any investigation. Schultz even kept the emails pertaining to the incident. the term “child rapist enabler” is a term that was never used in the mainstream until this scandal. you would know this if you have been paying attention.

          it has not been proven that anyone at PSU acted outside of good faith. these type of situations make people uncomfortable. see former FBI criminal profiler jim clemente comments. what Louie Freeh did, what the media did, what the NCAA did, is embarrassing for America. they didn’t treat it like a child abuse case, instead they made it about football and made up lies to drag Paterno and PSU down. i think they were jealous of PSU.

          • oldbobbydraper

            keep telling yourself that, doll. nobody with an ounce of common sense believes it.

          • Jake

            telling myself what? this is what happened. i’m not a conspiracy theorist like Louie Freeh. if you believe such a crazy conspiracy theory, then i have more common sense in my pinky toe then you have in your entire body. this scandal reeks of an utter lack of common sense.

            PSU people (fans, alums, etc) had nothing to do with this. they have every right to be upset. there was never such a thing as a “penn state cult” or “paterno truthers” before the scandal. it’s all a result of the scandal and the media circus that “rocked” PSU, “rocked” college sports, “rocked” America.

            this scandal doesn’t just affect PSU people. it affects everybody. and until it is resolved, it’ll be like this.

            and by the way, if the trial of the PSU admins was such an open and shut case, then why has it been delayed again and again? it still hasn’t even started yet. it was supposed to start Jan 7th. this thing is a friggin joke. i pity people that actually believe this crap. nothin but conspiracy theorists grandstanding to media created shenanigans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1496853446 Larry Leise
  • soup

    as someone born and raised in the heart of the cult of paterno, joe paterno was human trash who has deserved every bit of damnatio memoriae received since the truth about his cover-up has been revealed.

    • dealwithit

      Here here! I grew up in the middle of that crappy state – the cult of Paterno was everywhere, especially in the mid-80s after their home bought refs gifted them a national title with a horrifically bad call against Nebby.

      It got even worse as Paterno got older, and these people built their entire self-worth over a self-aggrandizing and entirely egotistical man who ruled Jonesboro with an iron fist. An athlete who was failing? Ship him off to Erie for a semester! Someone diddling kids in the shower? Ehh, don’t ruin anyone’s weekend! Need to go to the bathroom? Just crap your pants. Need I go on?

  • soup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3OtaE7mPI

    this is what every “paterno truther” (lol that they unironically use that name, as though 9/11 conspiracy theorists are people you want to associate yourself with) looks and sounds like upon the mention of paterno’s name.

  • 6 Feet Deep

    Hello truthers, I just wanted to let y’all know that Papa Joe is doing fine down here, there were a few cockroaches in his ear but they left bc they said he was too slimy. take care.

    Sincerely, Penn State Football

  • Bdawkbdawk

    No one wants women harassed or sexually demeaned. It is absolutely repugnant. But youre doing something very sinister here, Mathis. First we weren’t allowed to question the dubious reporting on Paterno, because there were more important victims to consider. Now you are saying that we can’t examine Paterno’s culpability, because assholes are victimizing Ganim? Stop side-showing and straw-manning. Stop exploiting victims. We can have an intelligent discussion about the issues, without you dragging these poor victims back into the argument everytime that Freeh makes a bad argument.

  • Mahi Tuna

    Their have been holes poked in her story about Penn State and she has never defended those, just the opposite she refuses to discuss them. One glaring incident is her coverage of one of the victims and his mother. The fact she had amazingly fast access to these people who at the time their identity a well guarded secret. The credibility of one of the mothers. To be honest, if you look at the facts it seems like a story of some small time reporter who was a nobody, grabbed a story and did everything possible to sensationalize it at every turn and nobody at the time ever really looked into her facts, how they came about, the credibility of the sources. Even today if someone came forward and revealed that the story was so slanted it could be label unreliable nobody would care or report it because she would garner no attention