UPenn Jerks Tip 40 Cents at McGlinchey’s (After Brandishing Two $100 Bills)

40 cent tip at mcglincheys

Jo-Ann Rogan was bartending at Philadelphia dive bar McGlinchey’s on Thursday night, as she has many times over the course of her 21 years there. And on this particular Thursday night, Rogan had an all-too-familiar encounter with one of the most dreadful things that a Philadelphia bartender has to contend with: cheap Ivy League brats.

The cheap Ivy League brats in question were taking part in Walnut Walk, a pub crawl for graduating University of Pennsylvania seniors. McGlinchey’s wasn’t on the official Walnut Walk lineup (which included the Irish Pub, McGillin’s, and… City Tavern?!), but a large group from the walk wandered into the 15th Street bar anyway in the early evening hours.

“It was as full as it would be for St. Patrick’s Day or New Years Day,” writes Rogan in a post titled “The Moral of the Story, Assholes” on her personal blog, punkymama.com, where she also writes about being a mother to an autistic son and the lead singer of recently reunited punk group Thorazine. “We ran our asses off serving these kids… It was hard work.”

In the middle of the “melee,” as she characterizes it, someone ordered four kamikazes.

McGlinchey'sNow, McGlinchey’s is not really the kind of place where people do a lot of kamikaze drinking. It is very much a beer-and-shot bar. And asking a bartender to make chilled mixed shots during a mad bar rush is a pretty good way to elicit the hairy eyeball. But Rogan, being the consummate bar veteran that she is, didn’t bat an eyelid and went to work on the drinks.

“This required some mixing and measuring,” she explains. “I made them really tasty for them and poured them out.”

One of the bros in the group handed Rogan a $100 bill to cover the $25.60 round. When she got to the cash register, she realized that there was another $100 bill stuck to the back of the $100 bill he intended to hand her. (Note: The new $100 bills do seem to stick together quite a bit, as my bank teller told me last week.)

Being an honest person, she quickly returned the accidental $100 bill and the gave him his $74.40 change from the transaction.

And what was her gratuity? Forty cents, which she split with her partner behind the bar.

Now, if you are a 20-percent tipper or a $1-per-drink tipper (really the only acceptable minimum these days), the tip would have been anywhere from $4 to $5.12. But this party left precisely ten cents per drink or a 1.56 percent tip for the round. And, again, that gets split down the middle between the shift’s two bartenders.

“Forty fucking cents,” she writes. “I am used to getting the occasional non-tipper or bad tip, but these kids under tipped on a grand scale.”

And then she offers a lesson in tipping:

The moral of the story is teach your children the etiquette of tipping young. My kids know how to tip. Often when the paper boy comes, or we are at the ice cream place, or even at a restaurant, I show them how to figure out a tip. Some people live off tips. My pay at the bar is 90% tips.

I started my kids so young with the idea of tipping, they often ask why we tip one service provider and not another. It is a good, honest question and I do my best to explain thoughtfully.

At the end of the night I worked much harder than normal, but made less than I usually make because of the pub crawl. In my eyes tipping should be taught at home along with right and wrong. Tipping is part of our culture and it is not going to go away anytime too soon.

I am not sore about giving that man his hundred back. I believe my good deed will in some way be rewarded because… Karma is a motherfucker.

Someone get the Tips for Jesus guy over to McGlinchey’s pronto. Rogan works Thursday and Friday nights.

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  • JB

    Unfortunately, that’s just part of the job. You can’t fix stupid…even if they’re rich brats. In regards to returning the $100 bill. I found a purse and it’s contents lying in the street. I tracked down the owner and returned said purse and it’s contents….including $2400 in cash and thousands more in checks. I barely, barely, barely got a thank you…let alone a reward…some people are just clueless…such is life.

    • Lway

      Don’t you just deserve a big ole pat on the back.

      • JB


  • Philly college kids just doesn’t seem to know how to do ‘drunk’ properly. I was in the city yesterday while this was going on and it was pretty standard for large groups of these students (easy to pick out, they all had matching tee shirts) to be standing IN the road on Samsom. Most were pretty put-out that actual CARS were driving on the street and interfering with their night out. Still better than St. Paddy’s Day when a drunk gal climbed UNDER the front of my car while I was at a stoplight.

  • Sean Indignado Kitchen

    Just goes to show that working class stiffs are better tippers than entitled elitists.

    • bill_goldthorpe

      they most certainly are

      • Industry Worker

        Uh, no. Poor people and foreigners definitely tip the least. It’s not even close.

        • HK

          Poor people don’t go out to eat and foreigners don’t know how to tip, that’s because the standard in other countries are different. Wealthy people are shifty tippers, I guess that’s how they stay wealthy.

          • Industry Worker

            I realize you’re trying to pat yourself on the back, but if you were right, the most sought after bartending and serving gigs in the city would be in middle class Mayfair and Roxborough, not rich Center City.

          • Nick

            The thing is most local bars that deal with middle class blue collar people only hire people they know. They arent chcking resumes. They are hiring friends. Plus even though the bartenders do well, the prices are cheaper and the volume is lower. If I had my choice of two places with identical prices and identical volume, one of them you serve the white collar center city crowd the other you serve blue collar workers, id take the blue collar every time. And make at least twice the money.

        • Brooklyn_Michael

          In general, service staff in non-U.S. countries are paid a reasonable minimum wage, not the sub-minimum wage that waiters and bartenders are paid here. Tipping is not customary, and foreign travelers aren’t just being cheap. They just don’t expect American businesses to be so cheap as to pay their staff $5/hour

          • Dave the Bartender

            As a bartender I earn $2.83 an hour. Plus tips.

          • Brooklyn_Michael

            …which underscores my point. Just shows how long I’ve been out of the business.

          • Jimmy

            Foreign travelers to the USA now-a-days are actually often just being cheap. I’m sure there are some that truly do not know about tipping…. but for the most part….

            Consider how much American TV/movies/etc is shown around the world.

            Or how many articles on the internet discuss tipping. Not just articles in English complaining about bad tippers, which I’m are there are plenty. But travel guides would likely talk about it.

            And the fact that travel is so common now.

            Also, ex-pats are everywhere both coming and leaving the US.

            Tipping is such a huge part of American going out culture, I wonder how many times a person could get away with not tipping here on one trip without being told somehow about tipping….

            it’s even *on the receipt* these days…. especially at many “tourist trap type” restaurants.

          • joeg

            and in Europe, Western and Eastern, it is usually written on your check that service IS NOT included. they too like tips. in Prague last month, we were at a bar crawling with Brits on a stag/doe weekend. loud, boring and cheap. not a tip from about 25 of them. we tipped our usual 20% and came back a few days later and were greeted like regulars. it was nice.

        • Nick

          Youre wrong. At least about the “poor” people. Not sure what you consider poor. Blue collar workers (construction, carpenters, electricians, iron workers,) and other servers and bartenders tip the best. Foreigners dont tip well because usually they dont know the customs here as tipping is not the norm in many other countries. The rich that dont tip, and there are many, have zero excuse.

    • pete

      It does not show anything of the sort. You have no idea who the students were. They might be very smart, but they may be from very humble working class familes.
      No one, including the whining barkeep, knows that they affirmatively decided to skip a tip beyond the silver. He could have dropped the changed, intended to get a few singles out of his change, or grab a five, and became sidetracked with conversation. He also my have thought his friend was going to tip, and got sidetracked, and the friend did not leave the tip. Many things could have happened.
      Even if they did leave only the silver on purpose, it has nothing to do with the rest of the school, or level of smarts or economic means.
      Victor Fiorillo did a great job using a cheesy, classless headline to draw the stereotyping public into spewing trash over elite people at Penn, etc.
      Many of you fell right for it.

      • Em

        I’ve been a waitress/bartender for 15 years, and it is most certainly not poor people that are bad tippers. I have frequently experienced that those who pay with a hundred dollar bill tip the worst. Working class people understand the working man (and woman’s) plight. Whining barkeep, my ass, this woman went out of her way for these “bros,” and even returned a hundy that she could have just pocketed. Have a little respect and compensate those that take care of you.

        • pete

          I never commented on whether poor folks are good, or bad. I do take care of those who take care of us, thank you.
          BTW, Everyone I know who is of means, that I have drank or dined with, are all good or great tippers. Guess that proves that neither one of us posses a scientific study bearing proof, huh?
          Nice try with your assumption that poor folks just understand the working man. Give me a break. I will just as easily tell you that many wealthy folks like to share. Humans are humans.

    • Nick

      20 years in the business. Thats ALWAYS been the case.

      • Sean Indignado Kitchen

        I used to be a waiter for 3 years in high school in the Philly suburbs. I can’t tell you how many times I had a rich family with a $150 check and only tip $10, but on the other hand, I’ve had plenty of middle class families give me 25 to 30 percent on a dinner that was $50 or $60.

        When I go out to a bar, I’ll tip a dollar per beer if it’s $3 or $4 a drink. If I’m going to a brewpub that I go to frequently and it’s $6-$7 a drink, I’ll go 20% as a standard.

        • dwphilly

          The RIch don’t give away their money, that’s how they stay rich.

  • joeyb

    I got to say that this women should be pissed at brat kids who don’t tip. The only thing worse is wasting time to write an article to expose the brat kids. They are one customer who probably were hammered and $200 was all he had to his name. Get over it. If you want to make more money then maybe get out of the whole industry. I hate cheap people, but that is the world we live in.

    • Psycho_78

      I’m sure the $200 was withdrawn from the trust fund allowance daddy sends each month for spending…..

    • nojoey

      Hahaha $200 is all he had he had to his name so it carries it around in two bills and spends it ordering Kamikazes at a Center City bar. Dafug you talkin bout.

      • Julian Root

        Seriously! 200$ was ‘all he had to his name?’ Poor thing!

  • Joshua David
  • PennSenior

    Correction — McGlinchey’s was in fact on the official line-up. As a Walnut Walk participant, I had one drink there and tipped $2. Sorry she got stiffed by one person, but they got a ton of extra business that day and lots of people tipping normally. I’d bet she walked with 2 or 3 times her normal tips last night.

    • Max

      “At the end of the night I worked much harder than normal, but made less than I usually make because of the pub crawl.”

      You must have been too busy taking courses in hospitality industry estimated aggregate gratuity modeling to concentrate on reading comprehension.

      • Inov

        “I worked much harder than normal…”

        Oh, she actually had to make some drinks rather than pour a shot, open a Yeungling bottle, or pour a draft? My heart aches for her, especially after such a rush packed her bar.

        The nerve of this woman complaining about 1 kid not tipping her on a small tab when all these other kids lined her pockets…

        My favorite part is how she expects a pat on the back for not stealing the other $100 bill.

    • Mcglinchey’s hotdog wench

      Correction — We had NO IDEA of the event. Also we had regulars leave because they didn’t want to deal with the mess who actually tip.

      • Hahaha

        lol that’s my picture of a McGlinchey’s regular alright. Some morbid, lonely drunk who can’t stand to be in the presence of some young, vibrant people who were probably too attractive and laughing too loud.

        • Pat Cleary

          You’re easily the worst person on the planet. Take that over-priced business degree from Wharton and choke on it.

          • Pat Cleary

            I’m sure you also accuse people of being “haters” to make up for your self-entitled, bullshit behavior.

          • Danielzinho

            but I doubt that person is wrong. It sounds like the bartender and the McGlinchey’s regulars are the ones who are acting entitled here.

          • Regularjoe

            I had this pretentious cunit that goes to Wharton in my store 3 times trying to get something fixed that can’t be fixed. She caused a scene and kept saying I goto Wharton.

        • Some morbid, lonely drunk

          Too attractive? Get off your high horse in traffic you pompous ass

      • Zach

        YOU didn’t or McGlinchey’s didn’t? Because our student council definitely cleared it with your higher-ups. McGlinchey’s name was even on the back of our shirts.

        • vfiorillo

          Send me a photo of this shirt

          • Danielzinho

            shut up, guy. the last thing anyone wants is a trivial correction to your trivial article. do your job better the first time.

          • vfiorillo

            Still waiting for that picture.

          • Danielzinho

            who cares? the picture of the shirt is an irrelevant detail to the story. i don’t go to Penn. I’ve never been to McGlincheys, and I certainly have no knowledge about this shirt…. but regardless of whether the name of this bar is, or isn’t, on this shirt…..it doesn’t matter….. your article is terrible either way. Either the bar knew about it and they failed to staff properly and alert the bartenders… or they didn’t know about it and it was just an especially busy night… it doesn’t change anything.

          • An Entitled Brat

            Don’t have the shirt but here’s the email. No need to be snippy, the guy wasn’t lying.

          • Picture…

            Picture didn’t upload…let’s try again

        • Mcglincheys hotdog wench

          The only call we got was two weeks ago for an event that seemed to take place at tops last week.

        • haha

          She’s a “hotdog wench.” That means the manager knew but didn’t inform all of the employees.

    • Brooklyn_Michael

      So, because of the “ton of extra business” they got, it’s ok that people are @#$%^! cheap? After regulars decide they don’t want to deal with the crowds? And even if the bartenders did walk out with 2-3x more than they usually would have for that night, they worked 8-10 times harder. Good for you that you tip decently, but I’ll eat my hat if the Penn boys were the only cheapskates that night.

      • Quake QTR

        Nice try. We were there for less than a half hour and that place was near empty when we walked in.

        We did nothing wrong. If our momentary invasion of your little kingdom is too much for you to bear than that’s a reflection on you, not us.

        • Quake QTR


        • punkymama

          The invasion was for 3 hours and my regulars were gone… it was a piss poor night. Friday night was better but much more sane.

        • guy

          Lol you apparently go to upenn and you can’t use the right word, then instead of than, what a joke.

        • Brooklyn_Michael

          Look, sonny….I’ve weathered more fratboy pub crawls as a bar regular than you have pubic hairs. This wasn’t an issue of you inconveniencing me; although the typical fratboy pubcrawl behavior is something we could all do without, no matter how long you were there.

          What at least some of you did wrong was be cheap bastards. And then whine when someone called you out on it. The proper response would be to turn your aim onto you cheap ass fratboy bretheren, not the people who call you out on your whining.

    • vfiorillo

      Show us something official that shows that McG was on the lineup and we will issue a correction. The bar didn’t know about it and the bar also does not appear on the lineup printed on the tshirts for the crawl.

      • Danielzinho

        This is the most trivial article I’ve ever seen in my life. I hope some jackass writes and article about the jackass that wrote this article and how terrible all Philadelphia journalists are.

      • paul from nc

        You wrote a useless article, very biased and you obviously had an ax to grind, or are friends with the waitress. Very unprofessional and we could do without the language.

        • The Professor

          He’s friends with the waitress/bartender and openly converses with her on Facebook. Google it for yourself.

    • Dave the Bartender

      Penn, Wharton, et. al. are notoriously horrible patrons, not just horrible tippers. We’ve had students actually lie to us when booking parties because they knew we wouldn’t book them if they were from Penn. Next time you’re in a Center City bar try to give free ad space in your college newspaper to the manager or owner and see what they say. I’ve worked in at least 4 bars that specifically requested not to even be mentioned in your publications for fear that it would drive more of your students to the bar.

    • JPK

      Agreed. Look at this way, if she only poured 1 beer or shot per minute in the hour the bar crawl kids were there, and only every other person left her a dollar, she’d be at 30$ for the hour plus her base pay. Surely more than half tipped and some gave more that a dollar per drink… Not bad for an hours work for a bartender if you ask me.

  • Industry Worker

    There’s less tipping late at night because people are drunk and forgetful. That doesn’t make them brats. Happens a lot. They also leave things behind and forget to pay tabs.

    I waited tables at City Tap House right on Penn’s campus and the kids were better than the adults in Center City. The only difference is sometimes the adults over tipped and the kids never did.

    • punkymama

      It was before 9pm

  • DL

    First, I attended Penn and I am not a “rich brat”. I worked hard to pay my tuition year after year and I’m still working hard post graduation to pay my student loans. Anyway, with that being said, I believe there is always two sides to every story. Personally I don’t think tipping is deserved for poor service. I wasn’t at the bar last night so I cant comment on the service that was provided but judging on the reaction to the patrons request for a kamikaze (a pretty common shot) I can assume their request was met with some level of attitude. This bar crawl happens year after year. It is planned and never a surprise. If bars don’t staff themselves properly then it is the bars fault not the customers.

    • Danielzinho

      100% correct.

    • phillyserver/templestudent

      “Personally I don’t think tipping is deserved for poor service.” Regardless of your background, you could not sound more entitled here (and you’ve clearly never worked for tips). The fact that you don’t think paying for $25 worth of drinks with a $100, then tipping less than $1 isn’t absolutely egregious should be embarrassing to the people who raised you, as well as the institution you represent. Then again, this is the attitude everyone in Philly’s service industry has come to expect/loath from Penn kids.

      • Danielzinho

        why would you get tipped for terrible, unpleasant service? If some jackass waiter wants to ruin my experience with his/her idiocy and inability to do their job or control their attitude… then why would I give them my money? You want a good tip?… Do a good job.

      • paul from nc

        I’m a Villanova alum and usually tip 20%+. But if the service is poor, I cut it proportionally. If you’re in the service business, it’s your responsibility to give good service, not expect 20% for not doing your job.

      • punkymama

        I gave amazing service according to the students. i am known for my friendly, prompt, service.

      • brah

        “Regardless of your background, you could not sound more entitled here”

        Goes on to say how servers are entitled to tip….. Hypocrisy or irony? Either way you’re point is ridiculous

      • DL

        I’m entitled? This mindset shared within the service industry that all servers are ENTITLED to a tip even if the service is not up to standards is the very definition of entitlement. You are correct that I have never worked for tips. In my profession I am paid a salary. In exchange for being paid this salary I have clearly defined duties and responsibilities one of which is acting courteously and professionally with customers and coworkers AT ALL TIMES and If I fail to meet the minimum standards of my job I get fired.

    • thepalescot

      A bunch of wussies go to an Irish bar and order wussie drinks, all the regular drinkers are appalled by the wusses in their midst. When you grow up and learn how to drink, come on by, until then, stay at Chili’s or TGIF.

      Drinks adults drink; Scotch neat, Scotch and water, beer and Jamesons’s, beer and rye, Martini’s up and dirty, gin and tonics.

  • LutherZBlissett

    “Tipping is part of our culture and it is not going to go away anytime too soon.”

    Well, it won’t if it’s considered more important to pass down tipping etiquette to the next generation than to get a fair wage (and benefits) for bartenders that doesn’t rely upon the munificence of a-holes.

    • Industry Worker

      Not only do restaurant owners not want tipping to go away, but neither do the workers. Nobody reports more than half of the tips they make every year to the IRS, so we barely pay any taxes. And most report zero.

      Not to mention we’d make less in salary than in tips. I made $84,000 bartending one year. I only reported $25,500. That’s a lot better than making $40,000/yr salary and having to report all of it.

      I made more as a bartender than I do now, and I’d still do it if it wasn’t so unhealthy.

      • paul from nc

        What a fine upstanding citizen you are. And bragging about it.
        Basically, you’re admitting to fraud and a felony. Not all service workers are dishonest and thieves, most do report their income correctly.

  • The Professor

    This Jo-Ann Rogan is on Facebook and the writer of this story, Victor Fiorillo is not only friends with her, but “liked” a post written by some fat 50 year old bouncer saying he punched a Penn kid in the face last night.

    That should tell you the kind of people we’re dealing with here.

    • Brrbrrkin

      Gratuitous fat-shaming and age-ism in an attempt to make a rather simple point? UPenn sure has some sophisticated advocates.

  • The Dog

    I can’t believe this is a story.

    • The Professor

      The writer is friends with the bartender. That’s the only reason.

      • vfiorillo

        False. The writer has met the bartender once in his life but knows her by reputation. And the editor of Foobooz, who approved this article, has no idea who she is. So, cheers.

        • Danielzinho

          so you’re not facebook friends?

          • vfiorillo

            I am Facebook friends with the bartender, but that’s not what you said.

          • Danielzinho

            I didn’t say anything. Check your reading comprehension again.

        • Terry

          It’s a joke that this is a story, right?

    • ambiguator

      Journalism! Yeah Baby!

  • Zach

    Newsflash: somebody gives a bad tip!

    How the heck is this in any way news worthy? It happens all the time!

    • Danielzinho

      next they’re going to have breaking news about a taxi driver who inconsiderately stops in the middle of an intersection and holds up traffic for 20 seconds.

  • The Professor

    I put a quarter in a parking meter and it didn’t register. Someone call Philly Mag!

  • NoHope

    Hey everyone, lets look at the bigger picture. This is a pathetic article to be published for the Philadelphia Magazine’s foobooz section. It deeply saddens me that this is considered news. I am actually mad at MYSELF for wasting 3 minutes of my day reading this. Reality check, no matter where you go, there are bad tippers. If you decide to work as a bartender, server, or any job that you have to rely on tips for income, you must be prepared to deal with not getting the “acceptable” twenty percent tip. I also want to acknowledge that even though the group of grads that went into the bar handed over two 100 dollar bills doesn’t mean they are “rich.” Want some real news people.. in July 2013, CNN stated 76% of Americans are living “paycheck-to-paycheck.” Here is some food for thought, maybe he just paid all of his bills and that is his money he has till next pay. Or here is another idea, the bartender could have been terrible! So before everyone get’s up-in-arms, just remember you were not there and you have no room to judge.
    Speaking of judging, I am highly upset by the slanderous comments made by the writer of this article. Calling a group of people “cheap Ivy League brats” is unprofessional and degrading. Who gives you the right to categorize a group of people based on where they went to school??? I know many people who attended Ivy League schools and were/still dirt poor.

    • mcglynchies regular

      I was there so I can tell you that it went down the way the article said. If you don’t think those kind of people are brats, then you’ve never seen a “pub crawl.”

      • anonymous

        I was at the bar that night too, and while the Penn celebrations were admittedly rowdy, the bar’s staff (and especially patrons) were incredibly unfriendly to the Penn students who showed up. I went to all of the bars, and there was definitely a CLEAR reason why McGlinchey’s was practically empty by comparison. If you were unhappy that there was a bar crawl (keeping in mind that it’s something that Penn Seniors do ONE out of the 365 nights of the year), go somewhere else. Or better yet, complain to the bar and see if they uninvite us next year (yeah right! we brought tons of business to that grimy old bar). Just remember, McGlinchey’s was the bar that invited a pub crawl to their bar, understanding full well the rowdiness and (sometimes) drunken mistakes that are made during such an event.

    • pete

      You said it. I know two kids currently at Penn. One kids dad is a paid city FIrefighter making 70K, and the other is a child of a teacher. I know, both are grossly overpaid professions.
      Stereotyping from a journalist? Very strange for sure. Great job baiting the ignorant folks who eat that stuff up.

      • Jimmy

        TL:DR? – Regardless what your SES level is, tipping 1.5 % on good service during a rush time at a restaurant/bar in America is pretty damn shifty.


        I dunno, regardless what your SES background (and subjective levels of SES are another debate… example – my friend is in the military… decent cash… nothing major…. but when he goes back to his podunk town he is balling. Or when Americans travel, Poor or rich, American people are rich in a dirt poor country and often times become ugly Americans simply because they got on a plane) is…. in America…. going out to a restaurant/bar and tipping 1.5% for good service feels pretty shifty.

  • Y2

    The first mistake is expecting drunk people to be able to calculate tips.

  • Danielzinho

    Based on the article….. I can already tell why this bartender got a 40 cent tip.
    1. She doesn’t respect her clientele…. she assumes that all Penn students are cheap jerks. I’m sure they can pick up on the skepticism and the disrespect.
    2. She probably gave terrible service. She’s already trying to justify her terrible service by telling how packed the bar was. “It was just as packed as it is during St. Patrick’s Day.” Okay. So she’s trying to justify the fact that her service was bad by explaining how busy they were… therefore… her terrible service was acceptable.
    3. She expects that her clients should be ordering things to make her life easier, instead of what they want. Apparently they ordered Kamikazes… an order worthy of a hairy eye, and she had an issue with that. And I doubt that she didn’t have a problem with it, since somehow the author of this article knows what they ordered, and how much of a hassle/burden that order was. I’m sure she let the customers know how much of a burden/hassle their drinks were.
    These guys may be cheap jerks… I don’t know anything about them or why they left 40 cents… however…. this waitress/bartender certainly seems like a person that doesn’t belong working in the service industry. Your customers aren’t there to make your life easier… you’re there to get them what they want and not give them a terrible attitude.

    • punkymama

      1. I love my clients. 2. I gave great service and the customers were so grateful, verbally. 3. I made the drinks HAPPILY even though it was so busy. I was taken aback by their verbal praise times 100 plus people and the lack of tips. What you missed was the idea that tipping is a family conversation to have with your kids continually from a young age.

      • Phila

        You love your clients so much that you decided to vent about one kid screwing you out of an otherwise small tip out of the dozens of other kids who tipped you. Way to take an opportunity to perpetuate a stereotype within your industry by selectively telling us about one inconsiderate kid.

        There are how many people who would do anything to have that job? My old neighborhood is filled with out of work tradesmen and factory workers who would feel blessed to get tipped by dozens of kids even if it meant not getting tipped by one.

        You and your 1st world problems would really disgust me if I thought you had any perspective whatsoever. Apparently those 2 special needs kids of yours haven’t brought you any.

        Please consider straying into a real Philadelphia neighborhood to see what getting screwed really looks like. You’ll be pretty grateful that you only lost out on five bucks.

      • Danielzinho

        I’d prefer to teach my kids not to stereotype entire groups of people (ie: Penn students)… something your parents clearly never taught you. I’ll also teach my kids that if a waitress ever rolls her eyes at your order or makes you feel like you’re inconveniencing her just by eating/drinking at her restaurant… leave her nothing.

        • guest

          you’ve obviously never worked in the service industry.

          • Danielzinho

            why? because I don’t find it necessary to stereotype people?

  • ME

    Can this really be called “news?” Would this be a story if the tipper were not a Penn student? Highly doubt it. There are bad tippers from all walks of life, and this city’s bars have seen events far rowdier than Walnut Walk… Try St. Patty’s Day. It’s no secret that the media outlets in this city just enjoy singling out Penn students and making sweeping generalizations about the entire population, e.g. “Ivy League brats.” Journalism at its finest, everyone!

  • Danielzinho

    Hey Victor,
    You’re the guy who hates Philly Restaurant Week because one time you walked into your favorite restaurant and couldn’t get your usual table immediately because the restaurant was packed…. right? And based off of that one experience you wanted to do away with Philadelphia Restaurant Week…. am I right? And you’re calling someone else an entitled brat? That is RICH.

    • Vicki
    • vfiorillo

      I don’t know what you’re talking about, so neither do you.

      • Danielzinho

        is that right?
        Google is not a friend to liars. There’s not much worse than a stupid elitist. You need to make some changes in your life.

        • vfiorillo

          “hates Philly Restaurant Week because one time you walked into your favorite restaurant and couldn’t get your usual table immediately because the restaurant was packed….” You need to work on your reading comprehension, because that’s not at all what I said.

          • Danielzinho

            Lol. Riiiiiiiight. You didn’t expressly state in your article…”Hello all. I’m an entitled, elitist brat.” That’s just what everyone with a normal perspective on life took away from your whiny anti-Restaurant Week rant.

          • Danielzinho

            Maybe you should re-read your article. Lol. You seem confused.

      • Danielzinho

        You should just quit while you’re behind.

  • Erik

    The rich are often the biggest cheapskates. Perhaps that’s how they got rich, but it doesn’t excuse under tipping.

    • pete

      What a stupid comment.

  • Willy Wonka

    Here’s a tip…….Lunch Hour 12-1.

    • punkymama

      I have TWO special needs kids. I needed to give up my 9 to 5 to make sure they were safe and their IEP’s honored.

  • student

    It is sad that this “article” is considered journalism! So the bar tender got a bad tip by some drunk college kids…wow, this must be the first time that has ever happened in Philly! What’s next? The taxi driver writing about how he also got a bad tip one night by some drunk kids? Not everyone will tip correctly and the author has no right to stereotype an entire university based on one drunk person’s tipping habits.

    • punkymama

      no…. It is about educating kids about tipping. Read it again.

      • L

        Punkymama – I have read both your article and this one, and I think the point is very different in each article. While your blog post is about a lesson in parenting, this article takes your story and uses it to stir up hate and bash an entire university/community. You never once referred to the Penn students as cheap, brats, or jerks, and yet these terms are plastered all over this article, making sweeping generalizations based off of your one story. Now most people have seen this article and not your original post. I’m sorry if you’re upset that your point has been lost, but I don’t think you can blame anyone reading this article from missing it.

  • Ryan N

    Maybe they’re dyslexic, and thought the rule was “20 cent-per.”

  • paul from nc

    This is not a news worthy story. And with the language she uses, she shouldn’t expect a tip.

  • KK Chemist

    If your not going to fairly tip the waitress or bartender then stay the hell home with a case and wait on yourself.

  • Notorious_bob

    This story paints a vivid picture of an honest server in a bar where he or she is unappreciated. Last night, one would have seen a different picture at the main-line bars. One of entire families of graduating Villanova students, from the hundreds of 22 year olds to mom, dad, and even some great-grandparents puffing oxygen from the seat of wheelchairs in the corners. I happened into a bar where there was an upstairs lounge with fewer than 20 people in it because everyone was still downstairs at 10:45. A young woman was leaning across the left side of the bar having a flirtatious conversation with some young man dressed in a worn t-shirt who seemed to also happen into the wrong bar that night, or not considering the personalized attention he was getting from the server. At my end of the bar were a woman in my party holding out a 20 for her first round with her boyfriend, myself, and another patron. 3 people in a row at the end of a busy bar in a not-so-busy section awaiting their first beverage of the night. After about five minutes, i glance to my right at the bouncer and give him the “is she a shortbus candidate?” eyeball, he shrugs and goes back to staring over the balcony to the crowd of drunken college girls. another 4 minutes pass and she accidentally turns in my direction. I ask “are you the bartender?” she gets an attitude. As a man who normally tips 30%, i waited for my change.

    • jney

      Notorious Boob.

    • Gemma

      you sound like a pervert.

      • Notorious_bob

        you sound like a dropout who will never be able to do a job other than waitress. i have a security clearance so the odds are more likely i would be right about you.

    • Danielzinho

      Lol. Nooooooo. That NEVER happens…. just ask bartenders and servers… they’ll all tell you how amazing they are.

  • Daddie Warbucks

    I appreciate Ms. Rogan’s honesty in giving back the extra $100 bill that was stuck to the first. In a different world another bartender might’ve kept the bill and assumed the young Mr. Wannabe Trump intended to give a 400% tip. If that wasn’t his intent then let’s all hope this kid doesn’t get a job on Wall Street where he can be even more careless with money that isn’t his.

  • Foreigner

    Not to start an all-out offensive on this embittered bartender’s post, however, I feel a need to call out the so-called “tipping etiquette” mentioned both above and below. Tipping exists for a reason and that reason is not to subsidise the pay of the server – be that a bartender, waiter, taxi driver, or for that matter anyone else in the service sector. It exists as a “gratuity” because it should be offered as a reward for good service. Let me clarify what is meant by “good” service. It is to say service that goes above and beyond the apparent call of duty – aka your job. Now in the instance above, it seems that the only transaction made was the ordering and delivering of 4 shots – be they as complicated as you would like it, it remains a fairly standard transaction. The fact that the bartender was given two hundred-dollar bills and returned one might merit a tip (note: this remains ENTIRELY discretionary) despite the fact it is common decency on her part to do so. This article writes from the perspective that returning the extra money was a particularly kind thing to do which is ridiculous, taking it would have been flat-out stealing and even that on a fairly large scale! So all summed up the service provided was not exceptional – particularly in this case as she then went on to a public forum to denounce them – and shouldn’t necessitate a tip. When people tip they are being generous, it is for this reason it is termed a gratuity. When they choose not to do so they are not conversely being selfish – this is purely greed talking and our being used to being tipped by overly generous spendthrifts. Now with respect to the argument made that tips comprise a large amount of a service-sector worker’s salary I have the following to say. First off, it is undeniable that tips have reached a level whereat they compose the majority of such people’s pay – this is undeniable, no one thinks otherwise be they a good tipper or not. The fact of the matter, however, is that this shouldn’t be the case. What has occurred has effectively been the outcome of brilliant maneuvering from service peoples’ employers – the restaurant/bar/hotel owners etc. They have managed to pitch the server against the consumer in a manner such that the server feels entitled to a tip and the customer feels pressured to offer one – an exchange that almost always leaves one party resentful. This historically new line of confrontation allows restaurants to underpay their employees and consequently post artificially low prices on their menu that trick consumers into spending more than they might otherwise have done, since they do not factor the tip into price adequately at a subconscious level (this effect is very similar to the one that causes the $0.99 at the end of a price tag). The outcome of all this is ironically worse service, despite the fact that people have been “tipping” more than ever before. Service people should not act in a manner that is obviously in search of a tip, this is both vulgar and disingenuous to the customer – whom any true service sector worker knows come first and foremost whether its agreeable to you or not. What should be done to change the status quo is not then to “teach your children the art of tipping” this is ridiculous, but rather pressure the owners of such institutions to pay their employees a fair wage that doesn’t have them hounding customers for tips after they have felt they have already paid a fair price for their service. Using the argument that because tips comprise such a large amount of one’s pay to continue such flagrant tipping culture is downright stupid – this is a classic instance of status quo friction. We have reached a suboptimal stage – work to change it instead of brainwashing your kids into thinking that it’s ok. I apologise for waxing lyrical and I hope I have not offended anyone, I speak purely with respect to what should happen. There shouldn’t be a constant war between consumer and employee – we should work in tandem against your employer who is screwing us both.

    • Jeff Asay

      Clearly written by someone who a) never worked a service job that relies on tipping, and b) sees the world how they think it should be and not how it is. Another ivory tower dweller who will forever argue against the ‘terribly sneaky owners’ while screwing the very people who need the pay the most.

      The premise of changing the status quo isn’t in and of itself a bad thing. But it takes the focus off the poor behavior of these students/patrons. I’m fairly certain they weren’t tipping 40 cents on principle, though no one really can say what they were thinking. But let’s keep the pressure on the patrons who believe they don’t have to tip. These are often the same idiots who travel abroad and earn the Ugly American label because things aren’t done the way they’re accustomed to back in the States. Does the phrase, When in Rome, do as the Romans do, mean anything to you or the misbehaved students?

      If you’re so intelligent and well-schooled, take the principled stand and organize against the so-called greedy restaurants and hotels. But make sure you don’t harm the workers who will see slowed demand at their place of employment result in fewer tips at best, and unemployment at worst. What then?

  • Journalism?

    Out of curiosity, did you actually read her full post?

    Her: “Of course my bar was on the route.”
    You: McGlinchey’s wasn’t on the official Walnut Walk lineup (which included the Irish Pub, McGillin’s, and… City Tavern?!)

    If you’re going to write barely topical fluff pieces, at least get the facts right…

  • the shirt guy

    Just the Walnut Walk shirt for your corrections.

    • the shirt guy

      Sorry just in case it didn’t upload.

      • I feel your pain

        It takes 5-10 minutes to upload. It’s there.

      • Danielzinho

        Hahaaaa. The shirt does have this bar on it. Philadelphia is literally finding internet trolls and hiring them as writers for their magazine. Victor Fiorillo is an idiot.

        • Henk_sg

          The poster is being dishonest, he posted an image from a different year. The current one, 2014, does not have McGlinchey’s, listed.

          • Danielzinho

            well. either way. whether the name of the bar is on the shirt or not is really irrelevant, isn’t it? It’s simply a distraction by the writer of the article from how terrible the article is. It’s a almost inconsequential fact. Okay…. so maybe the bartender didn’t know there was a bar crawl… or maybe she should have.. or maybe she had no way of knowing. It doesn’t change much regarding the story. The only thing it may change is whether her boss was at fault for her being swamped by not properly staffing the bar. Other than that… it’s irrelevant.

          • Misinformed.

            As a current Penn senior, that’s the damn shirt. Where’s your proof that it’s last year’s?

          • Alex C

            This is a screenshot from the event page where we bought them on eventbrite. How much more proof do you need? Last year’s shirts were purple, anyway.

      • Henk_sg

        Wrong Year Dude, but you knew that didn’t you?

      • Alex C

        can confirm, this was our shirt. last year’s were purple

    • anonymous

      Thank you for fact checking that. I happen to know for a fact that McGlinchey’s was on the list because I went out of my way to go there to hit all of the bars during Walnut Walk and remember it distinctly. The place was disgusting, and my friends and I walked back out instantly.

  • brah
  • BMo

    I’ve been out of Philly for some years now. McGlinchey’s was certainly not (and probably still is not) the vibe that many “typical Penn students” are looking for, just as much as the bar is probably looking to cater to a different clientele. There is a natural animosity there between a location that prides itself on no-nonsense, cost-effective and humble drinking, and an arrogant demographic that is young, loud, and proud of its perceived elite intellectual status. Its grit-as-glamour populism vs. intellectual snobbery when you look at the stereotypes of the bar and of the crowd-a recipe for tension. My perspective as a Penn alum who worked in Philly bars for 10+ years: it is indisputable that students have a rep for being poor tippers (understandably, to some extent) but that Penn students compared to Drexel, Pharmacy, St.Joe’s, Temple, etc. stand out with the worst reputation in West Philly and Center City bars. Dave the Bartender said it best – Penn students have a rep as horrible patrons, not just as tippers. Is it because one expects them to have more money and behave more maturely than other students? Or are they undeniably worse? A sociologist should look into this, it would make a fascinating study. I will never stick up for Penn students as a demographic based on enough experience, but students in general can be pretty awful and I sometimes wonder how much worse Penn students would turn out in a data survey vs. other students or even 21 year old kids who are not in college.

  • L

    I tip 20% pretty much across the board (mostly because it’s easy math to do in my head, even when tipsy or drunk) – if I’m paying in cash, the quality of service might determine whether I round up or down to the next dollar, if anything. I’ve never had an experience where the quality of service was poor enough to make me even consider under-tipping. I am also a Penn student. On a typical night at a bar, a bartender probably wouldn’t take any particular note of my friends and I, unless they had something against a co-ed group in their young twenties in general. We’d just be another average group of customers – not headline news. Unfortunately, the only noteworthy (and apparently news-worthy) interactions seem to be the minority of poor experiences that taint everyone else’s reputations of the majority. I’m sorry that some Penn students are too rowdy and tip poorly, but that doesn’t mean that we are all “cheap Ivy League brats” – far from it. And the fact that this article is clearly biased and hateful enough to use such language is shameful and unprofessional.

    • guest

      get over it. this is a food website, not the new york times.

      • L

        Yeah, a food website. Not a gossip column. You’d think their standards would be a bit higher.

      • anonymous

        This article is a total disgrace. As an affiliate of Philadelphia Magazine (a commonly respected publication), this food blog should hold itself to the same standards the magazine does. There is no excuse for writing crap “journalism” like this. To use such spiteful language and make derogatory comments about an incredibly diverse class of roughly 2500 people is small-minded and just plain rude. Grow up… all of you.

  • mothra

    To all the folks defending these dicks because they think they couldn’t afford to tip, here’s a bit of wisdom: if you cannot afford the drink AND a tip, you cannot afford to go out. Basta.

  • JustTheTip

    The $200 was to give her the tip and the other 10 inches attached to it
    Ba dum dum, Thanks, folks! I’ll be here all week

  • Donald Sterling

    Biggest takeaway from this “story”

    VICTOR FIORILLO has NOTHING better or more interesting or more important to write about. That is a sad state of affairs and is an indictment on the lack of anything truly newsworthy in Philadelphia.
    Sorry that the nice lady at McGlinchey’s got stiffed, but this really is not that interesting

    Shame on VICTOR FIORILLO for being such a bogus phony baloney reporter.

    • Gabbrielle

      I dont care for mr Sterling’s racist remarks, but he is correct about Fiorillo

    • Sean Indignado Kitchen

      He can bash on union leadership…

  • Shawn
  • Angelo

    They did exactly the same at Tavern on Broad that day.

  • Vicki

    I am seriously embarrassed that this is a story. The detail, the drama, the mentioning of an autistic son (????) Firstly, people are crappy tippers, and at a dive like McGlinchys wtf do you expect? Secondly, there was a WITCH of a bartender there when i used to to (15+ years ago) who was a miserable wench to paying customers. She was pure evil, so if this is the same one, no surprise she got stiffed ha ha ha.

  • bad journalism

    So this is never going to be corrected because Victor Fiorillo is incompetent, right?

  • Mom

    Why would you not expect to serve Kamikazes if you are a bartender? I have ordered them before, and I don’t drink beer so I always order a drink.

  • lmao

    The moral of this story is low class servers and bartenders still think they are entitled to a tip because the company they work for pays them poorly. I will teach my kids to not grow up to be a servant and expect other hard working people to pay their way for bringing a damn drink to them. This article is pathetic, Jo-Ann Rogan is grand-scale pathetic, and the people who agree with this article are just as bad.

  • Jeff Asay

    Wow, my response was blocked for I have no idea why. So for brevity and clarity I will say 100 down votes for you, sir.

  • Atombird

    There are a lot of things that parents need to teach their kids. How to tip at a dive bar is not one of them.


    Victor Fiorillo, I just can’t keep this to my self any longer. I read your articles almost daily. Some are good and others can use some help. The reason I am writing this comment is because of the fact that you really need to stop the immaturity and start acting like a real journalist. I am not perfect and am not trying to put you down. I don’t think we ever met so I have nothing against you. I do feel that you can learn something from your elders, Mr. Mike Klein and Mr. Rick Nichols. It is not the fact that a lot of your articles are just what you think and not factual but that you are constantly trying to defend yourself and post comments back to the readers. I think its time you grow up and stop the childish postings trying to defend your self. It also seems that you get a hard on for someone then continue to put that person down. Why not try and not post a comment back and just start to do a better job and write more informative articles that look at the positive aspects of the business.I know its hard to not comment back,as a Chef I had my not so proud internet fights. Have you ever worked in a restaurant?If not maybe get a job actually working in one. That could be a great article on you having a learning experience. Also no one cares what you like, so start to broaden your horizons and stop writing about the same people all the time. I really have no problem with you besides the fact that it seams that you really don’t know much about how the real restaurant business works. Get out there on the street and get in the grind and meet Chefs and workers and get with the real people in the trenches, then maybe you will start to show a real improvement in your work. If you feel the need to talk to me I have no problem talking on a one on one basis, I feel that I could really help you with elevating your knowledge of the food business. Thank you and I hope that you don’t take this personal and start to write some good,informative, and knowledgeable, and factual food articles.


      One other thing,pertaining to this article. I compete disagree with saying that most ivy leaguers are bad tippers. That is just a stupid article. As a former restaurant owner and manager, the stereotypes are completely false. Some of my best tippers where foreigners, and ivy league students. Most of the time its servers fault if they get a bad tip. Victor please try and grow up and stop drinking the koolaid and get a new prospective on the business. Again I just couldn’t read your nonsense for another day. I can’t believe foobooz and philly .com lets you write this nonsense. Please don’t take it personal because I have nothing against you besides what I can see that you are very clueless to the real happenings in the business,

  • Denise Rambo

    The debate about whether “rich” people or “poor” people are the best tippers is pointless. The BEST tippers are people who have worked a job where they depended on tips. Former and current waitstaff and bartenders are the best tippers.

  • Bob Hadababyitsaboy
  • Dan

    Everyone here seems terrible. That is all.

  • Yards Brewing Co

    Hope that photo is staged. We’d like to think that Yards drinkers treat their bartenders better than that!

  • four kamikazes

    Ok, so it’s pretty lame to be tipped badly, I understand. But it’s also pretty lame to complain about making…wait for it…FOUR KAMIKAZES during a crowded night. I mean, O. M. G. She had to make four kamikazes — which she called “complicated” on her blog. Talk about a hard day at the office! And are kamikazes still a thing? It feels 1993 to me.

  • WinstonLegthigh

    In my experience working fine dining and “blue collar” bars in center city, PENN and WHARTON students are relatively known for being awful tippers.

  • aks

    in my experience all of the bartenders at mcglinchys are surly hipster jerks. prob deserved a crap tip…

  • wenddix

    When you have been given everything you have no idea what you have. Many of them are princes of nations. They are Royalty. Being privileged has just as many problems as any other “place” in society. I suspect these Penn people lack awareness that you live or any one else lives off tips. I dated one of these people and it was SHOCKING what he did not know about common kindness and decency. He simply expected everyone to do for him. He knew nothing else. Success and money were the same thing.Truly a shell of a person. The friends of his I encountered were amazingly shallow. No understanding or even awareness of honesty, integrity, loyalty, and most of all dignity.
    Everything was about the make of the car, the latest sexual conquest with a Victoria Secret model, and the biggest bank account. It was heart breaking.
    Is it any wonder so many financially wealthy people commit suicide. They are being lied to about what matters leaving them lonely and confused.
    However, I would not mind trying to work with a great deal of money for a while just to see what it is like not to be afraid of the electric being turned off.
    I would also be fun to see them live off what I do and drink Kool-aide to get by.
    I think I might win that challenge!
    Tip people