Maclin On Health, Life Without DeSean

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Jeremy Maclin had just finished up some pitch and catch with Nick Foles when he met with a handful of writers outside of the NovaCare Complex Thursday afternoon.

The receiver is participating in all of the workouts as the offseason training program gets underway and is running routes. He expects to perhaps get limited reps during OTAs but said that if it were training camp, he would be fully cleared to do everything, including 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills. He added that he does not intend to wear a knee brace this season. A positive update all the way around.

With the health questions out of the way, the focus shifted towards the departure of DeSean Jackson and the impact it will have on both Maclin and the offense as a whole.


Prior to Jackson's release, Maclin was asked whether his counterpart's presence made his job easier in terms of how opponents defend the Eagles. Maclin noted in his response that the only player in the league that draws double-teams is Calvin Johnson. He made it very clear on Thursday, though, that having a quality receiver opposite him is important.

"You want two in this league. I think when you have two, you have a much better chance of being successful. I think teams that have one guy, those teams normally aren't as good,"  said Maclin.

Do the Eagles have two?

"I think we have two. I think we have more than two. I think we have two definitely, though."

That is still to be determined. Riley Cooper is slated for the other starting role and while he found success last season in Chip Kelly's system, the jury is still out as to whether he can make a habit of it. The other options at receiver currently include Arrelious Benn (who is also coming off an ACL tear), Brad Smith,  B.J. Cunningham, Damaris Johnson, Jeff Maehl, Ifeanyi Momah and Will Murphy. The Eagles will almost certainly draft a receiver come May, but there is no guarantee that player will make an impact as a rookie.

"You just don't know. You can say anything you want about the guys coming in but when you get to this level it's a whole different story," said Maclin. "For those guys I hope they do come in and make plays and be successful but it doesn't always work like that."

Still, the six-year vet remains confident that the current group of skill position players (which also includes Zach Ertz, Darren Sproles and Brent Celek) can get the job done.

"I think we'll be fine, man. Obviously DeSean is one of the better playmakers in this league but we're moving forward and I think we'll be just fine," said Maclin.

"I have faith in the offense and I have faith in the guys that we have in the locker room and on the football field. Chip said it himself: the offense is not built around one guy. We have multiple guys that go out there and make plays, so I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do this year."

Asked about his relationship with Jackson, Maclin responded: "Our relationship is our relationship. It doesn't need to be shared with anyone else." The two have not spoken since Jackson's release, he said.

As for filling the void?

"I'm going to do the best thing that Jeremy Maclin can do, and that's to try and be the total package. As far as trying to replace somebody...I'm not here to replace anybody -- there is nobody to replace. I'm going to go out there and do my thing and do what the coaches ask me to do. Not only be the best football player but be the best player I can be. Once you do that, now you're reaching your full potential as a player and a person, and guys respect you for that."

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  • Eagles1018

    Asked about his relationship with Jackson, Maclin responded: “Our relationship is our relationship. It doesn’t need to be shared with anyone else.”

    In Laymens terms “we didn’t get along very well…”

    • Arby1

      When the Eagles drafted Maclin, Jackson questioned why it was necessary. Way to get the relationship off to a good start ; )

  • Glenn

    Maclin’s health is vital to this organization. This is Maclin’s second ACL injury to the same knee. As far as I know, it has been unprecedented where a #1 WR came back from two ACL’s, and retained the same explosiveness. I think a lot of people have overlooked this fact. This is even more a reason why drafting a true #1 WR is more of a priority than we would like.

    • peteike

      Coopers a true #2, he was this past year posting those numbers. I think Maclin is also a #2 so ya, we know they want to strike in the draft. Maybe draft a few late and hope to hit on one with a high ceiling.

      • Joe from Easton

        Prior to his injury I thought Maclin was the better of the two (he and DeSean). His numbers were lower due to to plays being drawn up specifically for Jackson and Vick being a one read guy.

        After the second knee though, who knows?

        • UKEagle99

          Maclin was more consistent. Desean definitely owned the yds stat but the 20+ & 40+ plays were closer than a lot of people give Mac credit for. As for 1st downs & TDs Maclin owned these.

          Time will tell. Fingers crossed he comes back 100% and we can see him post career number as a few others did.

          • Joe from Easton

            I agree. DeSean was a boom or bust player and when he was up it was awesome. When he was wasting 1/11 spots on offense it wasn’t so awesome. Maclin consistently remained a part of the game. With a guy like Foles at QB I think Maclin fits better anyway. Again though, if he’s not fully healthy then everything I said is a waste of key strokes.

        • Brandon Boykin, LOL

          Maclin? The guy whose name became “self-tacklin Maclin” because he fell IMMEDIATELY after a catch in lieu of taking a hit? Maclin who dropped passes in consecutive weeks that lost us the game that one season (2010, 2011? Somebody help me)? That Maclin? Better than DeSean?

          Well, alrighty then.

          • Joe from Easton

            It’s an opinion. I didn’t say he’s one of the best in the league or he’s without faults. I simply said I thought he was a more consistent player than Jackson when they were on the field together. More catches, more TD’s, less disappearing acts.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            I read your statements through red tinged glasses that said “I hate Jeremy Maclin,” friend. Somewhere out there NSA has a bunch of texts from this guy to a friend that will corroborate my statement.

            Anyway, I still say (red glasses on) I don’t see how he is more consistent. Consistently dropping catchable balls to end games? Sure. Consistent at falling rather than getting hit? Definitely. To the “more catches [and] more TDs” note, I do believe DJax had a shortened season due to a wicked concussion and some other malady. So more catches and more TDs*. Also, it’s pretty confirmed that under Reid Jackson’s role was to run 9 routes. If the defense knows what you’re running, it is easier to stop.

            Perhaps Sheil could do a side by side of their stats with some analysis.

            I just typed entirely too much on a point that matters very little. Clearly I’m procrastinating.

          • Joe from Easton

            haha I was about to come right back in a long-winded manner, but your last sentence provided some pause for me.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            Haha I’m glad I stopped you. It’s cool typing out all these “points” just KNOWING you’re about to win, until you get to the end and realized how much time has been wasted. And then you realize that the person with whom you’re arguing is just as hard headed as you, and they wouldn’t have changed their mind anyway.

            Fall for it EVERY time.

          • Joe from Easton

            There should be something like a “let’s have a beer” button on the site so when moments like this occur we just say cheers and move on.

      • Glenn

        Most likely, Cooper is a #2. But I want to see what he does this year. Maclin is still a big question mark, more than people realize. Remember, the promise of Cornelius Ingram? The Eagles need to draft a #1 in this draft, hopefully Cooks, Beckham, or Lee.

        • Joe from Easton

          Ahh, I wanted so badly for him to become his potential.

        • anon

          without having to chase djax all over the field — i think cooper gets guarded a little tougher — might even draw the no. 1 cb. interesting to see how he does man v. man. We’ll kill any team that plays zone.

    • JofreyRice

      ah, back to the good old days of “We need a true #1 WR!”

      • Richard Colton

        What’s Plexico doing these days? We need a big #1 WR for the Red Zone. What happened to throwing the fade to Hank Baskett?

        • Joe from Easton

          You ever see his wife?… props on that alone for that dude.

          • cliff henny

            ever hear his wife? he can have her

          • Joe from Easton

            I prefer my women with a mute button. All you need is enough money and you can install one on any of them. Not sure he had enough though, so good point.

          • cliff henny

            you know Bill Gates wakes up every morning and sits down for cup of coffee, in walks wife, some how complaining about something, and he just buries his head into the MS notebook and rolls his eyes

          • Joe from Easton

            haha

          • Maggie

            You have so MANY women, no doubt.

          • Andy124

            I’ve got 3 (wife, daughter, dog) wish they all had mute buttons. :)

          • Joe from Easton

            No, those days are behind me. I have one, for the past six years. Wedding is planned for 2016 in Tuscany.

            My comment was a joke; remove panties from bunch.

        • Johnny Domino

          Hank fading fine by himself, thx.

        • G_WallyHunter

          TO still looking for work?
          Bring him and and Chip can put him in the basement in SS with Huls and he can return to all-pro form?

          • Maggie

            How about Harold Carmichael? Maybe he can get into game shape somehow and provide Miracle in the Meadowlands III?

    • Matthew B

      Why is everyone so worried about having a “True No. 1″ reciever? Seattle didn’t have one l;ast year (Harvin didn’t play till the SB). The Ravens didn’t have one (Boldin had a nice run, but he’s not a number 1). Fitz, Megatron, A.Johnson… they’re all on the same island as Moss, T.O., Carter, etc… No Ring Island. We need to stop thinking that you have to have a True number 1. It’s about creating mismatches and spacing….

      • Glenn

        I agree. We don’t need a “true #1″. But I think we need to draft a starting caliber WR given the tenuous group that we have. I am most concerned about Maclin’s health and ability to be as good as he was.

      • southy

        To be fair, Denver had 3 #1s.

        • NickS1

          I’d argue 2 #1s and a really good #2. I don’t view Decker as a #1. He was JAG before Peyton came along. Let’s see what he does with vaGeno Smith before calling him a #1.

    • Jim Blizzard

      DeSean wasn’t a true #1 either and we did just fine with him playing that role…

      • anon

        I actually think he proved that he could be a no. 1 – i didn’t think that before last year. He draws enough attention that it makes the no. 2 guy way more open.

      • Maggie

        Number 1 or 2, he’s not here now. He’s gone. Much more interesting, if not always accurate, to discuss present and future Eagles players.

        • Jim Blizzard

          You missed the point maggie. The point was we don’t need to draft a #1 wr. We have not had one since Owens.

    • Glenn

      It is a good chance that Maclin does not come back to be the same player he was, or reinjures his knee. “True #1″ was not really my point. Maclin’s health was. Jackson wasn’t a true #1 either.

      • NickS1

        I’m not too concerned about his knee. The graft he had the first time was an allograft (cadaver) which has a 20-35% re-tear rate. Given how young he was when he got it, it was almost bound to happen. He went to James Andrews this time, and used a graft from his own patellar tendon, which is a much more durable graft, with about a 7-10% re-tear rate.
        Notes: James Andrews refuses to put allografts in competitive athletes. Re-tear rates stated based on competitive athletes, not the common person.

        • Andy124

          Nice info Nick. Thanks.

          • NickS1

            My pleasure. I’m 6 weeks removed from surgery. I’ve learned a lot about ACLs since I tore it. I’m just happy I can put it use.

          • Andy124

            The knowledge, or your ACL?

          • NickS1

            Lol the ACL.

  • devCal

    18-10=8
    a.rob

    • jabostick

      Maclin minus DeSean = Donnie Jones?! Great, now we have two Donnie Jones’!! Co-MVP’s!

      • devCal

        anything to get rid of alex henery…

  • Maggie

    A diplomatic yet confident response from another Eagle with character. As for the lesser known ‘receivers’ on the roster right now, who knows come September?

    • Richard Colton

      I’d put “receivers” in quotes too Maggie, ’cause nobody outside of Maclin and Cooper have shown they can do anything in this league.

      • ochospantalones

        Seriously, we don’t have a third wide receiver on the roster who has proven they can do anything outside of special teams. These guys aren’t NFL players beyond special teams and deep depth. We’ll add at least one receiver in the draft, but it’s a very thin position group.

        • Robert Perri

          With Sproles and Ertz, you can run two receiver sets all day and be ok

          • ochospantalones

            It would be nice not to have to. They definitely have playmakers at other positions, but they played a lot of “11″ personnel three wideout sets last year. The explanation at the time was that they chose personnel groupings based on matchups. Seems like they have less ability to do that now.

          • Joe from Easton

            I think they played a lot of “11″ because Ertz wasn’t ready to block yet. Towards the end of the year they were in much more “12″ personnel. Kelly wants to use his TE’s as difference makers and he’s going to this season.

          • ochospantalones

            Hopefully they won’t need to run a lot of three WR sets, but it would certainly be better to have the ability to do so. And it’s not like injuries are not a risk, our #1 receiver is coming off his second ACL tear and the best of our depth guys is Arrelious Benn, who is always injured. I’m not saying their wide receivers are going to be a devastating problem, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be a problem at all.

          • cliff henny

            just hand it to shady and Brown/draft pick 50 times

        • Clamdigger

          Ifaenyi Momah, dude. Everyone knows he’s a future All-Pro.

          • ochospantalones

            Sorry, how could I forget Ifeanyi? At least we still have Jeff Maehl and Jeff Maehl.

        • the g.o.a.t b dawk

          Also, dont sleep on benn. Hes young and hasnt had a real chance to show what he can do. I was very excited about that pick up last yr. Definetly good enough to b a wr3 and really may push coop for a wr2.

          • ochospantalones

            I like him on paper. he has good size and speed, but I’m not happy relying on a guy who has shown nothing on the field in a 4 year career and who is coming off a serious injury. He has 59 career receptions. He was a 2nd round pick, so it’s hard to see why the Bucs would bury him for no reason (though the Bucs suck, so who knows?).

            Even if Benn can play, he projects to me as a similar player to Cooper, so you’re still missing a real slot guy. I guess they’ll play Sproles there, but you’re relying on a small, aging player with little safety net.

            You can make up for mediocre wide receivers in other ways (Andy Reid did it for years), but I’m not sure why you would want to put yourself in the position to have to.

      • Joe from Easton

        Ertz, Celek, and Sproles are ‘receivers’ in this offense so I don’t really agree with this statement at all. If the Eagles find even a decent 3rd option in the draft then they have at least an average number 1, a good number 2 (if cooper carries his success over), and a budding star at TE along with two of the best out-of-the-backfield receiving threats in the league. Foles has plenty of people to distribute to right now.

        • Richard Colton

          the quote was in reference to WR in a more specific sense. If you want to open it up to just pass catchers – sure. Hell, throw McCoy in there too.

          Last year (even with Maclin being hurt) we had three NFL WRs. This year we have two.

          • Joe from Easton

            Ah those damn semantics. I agree that we are thin specifically at the WR position, but I also do think Kelly views his TE’s as extensions of the WR position and plans to use Ertz as such. In the end they will draft a WR in rounds 1 or 2 this year that can come in at minimum and be a number 3 so baring injury this whole conversation will be an afterthought. If you and I can see the weakness then I’m sure Chip and Gamble can.

          • Richard Colton

            remember those double stack 4 TE sets we saw in preseason last year? Imagine that with Celek/Ertz/Mike Evans/KB. That’s a lot of TE’ish WR beef coming at 180lb DBs on the edge.

          • cliff henny

            rugby scrum for 15 yds every time.

          • Johnny Domino

            The rugby term for that open field type tussle is a “maul”, and quite appropriate.

          • Joe from Easton

            That would make even Richard Sherman leave a stain in his jockey if you ask me.

            Damn, I’ll be Chip Kelly goes from six to midnight thinkin’ about things like that.

          • NickS1

            Wait until it’s double stacked on the same side with McCoy split out on the other side. Name that movie.

          • anon

            question to me is for how long can you “out scheme” people. At some point you have to have better players.

            Prime example being 2012 redskins and RO offenses generally — they didn’t last long. I know we aren’t RO but we use a lot of trickery to get people open – can you build a 10 year career off of that?

          • therealpistolp

            All of the trickery is to create a one on one matchup somewhere on the field to attack… If he has players that can consistently beat man coverage then he’ll be around for a long time

          • NickS1

            I wasn’t prepared for such a deep question in response to a question. The answer to my question was Varsity Blues, with the formation being the Oop d’Oop (however it’s spelled).

            Belicheck has been out-scheming people for years. Chip’s not on Belicheck’s level (yet), but I think we can agree that they think similarly. I don’t think we use that much trickery, but I guess we would need to define it so we know we’re talking about the same thing. I think we use some misdirection but focus on the exploitation of favorable match ups. To me that’s not trickery. Trickery is that silly sh*t we did when we put Brad Smith in for a wild cat play in the red zone, in my opinion.

          • anon

            I wouldn’t be surprised if we take that TE first if he falls — he’s getting very little shine, as compared to other 1st round guys…

  • Joe from Easton

    Maclin is going to have is 1,000 yd. season this year and be a legitimate number one receiver in Kelly’s offense. I think we can take that to the bank.

    Foles will progress as well. I think the numbers drop off a bit, but I think he should finish with another passer rating over 100, a playoff win, and a 4:1 or better TD:Int Ratio.

    … slow day at the office.

    • Ark87

      As long as he is all the way back and stay there, I think so. I do think we will have a lot in common with the saints passing attack, pre-Graham. Plenty of talent, but spread around, not top heavy. Of course Brees was one of the only QBs good enough to find that one guy on the field winning his match-up. I swear as short as that guy was, and how well he found the open guy, he must play from an out-of-body perspective, madden-view or something.

      Anywho between that style of passing attack, and us being a run first offense, we really don’t really need Mac to be the next Calvin Johnson.

  • cliff henny

    I agree Mac. least of my worries is Kelly not adding weapons, then not knowing what to do with them once added. Mean, sorry, Cooper is a 4th WR and is only serviceable as a #2 because of Kelly. which is fine cause Kelly’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Kelly not going to wake up August 18th and go ‘shoot, that’s right, we don’t have Jax’. he’s got 6 months, doubt they miss a beat.

  • Richard Colton

    Hey Tim – Jeff Maehl stinks, but that other guy – Jeff Maehl – might have a future.

    • cliff henny

      who knows, 12 months ago if I told you Cooper was an 60/800/8 guy, could have won a lot money on prop bets on that. offense is going to look so much different, he could find a role.

      • UKEagle99

        Which one though? JM1 or JM2…

        • Richard Colton

          Like that time we had two DJs? Then 12 months later, one turned out to be the Kingpin of Crime and the other one just sucked?

          • cliff henny

            Does d-john even deserve a camp invite? he has no shot. ifhe couldn’t find field last yr, not going to get any easier this year. maybe a cut/trash trade in the works

          • Richard Colton

            Not with two Jeff Maehls in camp, no.

          • cliff henny

            is he agent smith’g himself. more more more!

          • Richard Colton

            What does it say that McManus lists two Jeff Maehls before one Ifeanyi Momah?

          • Maggie

            One thing it says is that there are 2 McManuses. Only 1 is a Mod probably.

          • G_WallyHunter

            what kinda round wound DJ and BB fetch?
            I saw roto post about BB being in a possible draft day trade

          • UKEagle99

            DJ is good for an 8th rounder.

            BB probably nothing higher than a 6th..

      • Kev_H

        That’ll be Benn’s stats this year.

    • jt521

      The Maehl-man always delivers.

    • Maggie

      So who is Jeff Maehl? Is he anything like Jeff Maehl?

    • NickS1

      Kind of like Jeffrey Lebowski. One turned out to be The Dude, arguably the coolest (and laziest) guy ever. The other was some hack posing as a rich guy.

  • janvanflac

    The team certainly knew how his knee was progressing, and I don’t think they would have let go of Jackson if they weren’t confident that he’d be able to perform at the same level that he could before. They may have had it in for Djax but they’re not stupid.

  • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

    Lost in all of this is how this will change how the Offense functions as a unit. You’re looking at a basic change in how this system WILL BE run in 2014 as opposed to how IT WAS run in 2013. (Read: More horizontal and less vertical.)

    Also there are a number of other things which have changed the landscape, but that you don’t see fans discussing. Take a look: http://eaglemaniacal.com/go-long/the-nfc-east/nfc-east-pre-draft-preview-eagles/

    • UKEagle99

      That’s not always a bad thing. Teams come out early with last years tape and you hang something different on them.

    • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

      Dude bugger off. Go on Facebook and spam your BS blog, and dime store analysis to your aunts and uncles. Blundercat…

      • G_WallyHunter

        Lol I scanned the page for a few seconds, saw the sentence “Ertz can prove he can be the man, Celek can be let go.”, closed the page… I agree with the first part of the sentence obviously.

      • Maggie

        The guy is entitled to have an opinion that’s different than yours and this is only the second time I’ve seen him mention his blog. THIS site is a blog. With analysis from Sheil and Tim first, then from 10,000 others.

        • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

          Exactly. It’s Sheil &Tims blog. So show some class, and respect, and stop trying to piggyback their success by promoting your blog on it. Its called spamming. Has little to do with his opinion. For all I know it’s some 15 yr old superfan. Dont really care. Moral of the story is it’s in poor taste. Start a twitter tell your friends. If your writing is worth reading, they’ll tell theirs. And the kid will get his weight up the old fashion way.

          As for you my love, I always know I can count on you to respond in the most muppet like fashion…..p.s. Did I mention my sister made $4500 selling knock off Birkenstocks out of the comfort of her own home?

          FREE GEAGS

          • IAteLunchToday

            $4500!? How? Is there a link that I can click on to find out how to do it myself?

  • Cranky Caucasian

    You forgot to mention Jeff Maehl.

    • Brandon Boykin, LOL

      I’ve been trying to since Chip signed him.

      • peteike

        wait til he drafts all Pac 12 guys and half are from Oregon haha

        • Brandon Boykin, LOL

          Or had great games against Oregon.

    • Tim McManus

      So nice you have to mention him twice.

      • Cranky Caucasian

        Well played.

  • jabostick

    By the way, anyone else think that Maclin looks like D’Angelo Barksdale? Or am I being an accidental racist?

  • imnotsorryisaidthat

    Kelly found a way to take a small,frail,reciever,who wouldn’t block,with strait line s

    • SoCalEaglesFan

      Good lord. Get over the Jackson hating. The guy is one of the top players in the league. It’s just continuing stupidity to try to pretend Jackson was just the product of Chip Kelly’s ingenious system. Jackson has been over or near 1000 yards every year in the league. Three Pro Bowls and one pro bowl where he started at two different positions! Unprecedented!

      In his wildest dreams Maclin won’t surpass Jackson when their careers are over.

      • OldDocRoss

        In fairness, if you’d tried to tell people DeSean was one of the top players in the league before last season you’d have gotten a lot of funny looks. You’d even have found a fair few who’d have made a case for Maclin being comparable to Jackson.

        Personally, my only concern with Maclin is his health. If he stays healthy and Foles plays well, he has a big year. Certainly could see him having more receptions and more TDs than DeSean if both play 16 games in 2014.

        • anon

          Name one memorable or game breaking play from Maclin. I can name a couple from Jackson. Yeah jackson’s 2011/2012 years were largely busts, but shady’s 2012 year was a bust as well (no one cares).

          Talent-wise jackson is heads and shoulders above the other guys on his team. he’s gone so who cares but the hating is undeserved, especially since he’s gone.

          • Clamdigger

            The last-second TD reception from Foles to Maclin in the Tampa Bay game in 2012. He made a catch on his knees, while sliding backwards and managed to stay in bounds.

            He also had a lot of huge plays in 2010, if you remember.

          • anon

            Yeah i couldnt remember if that was him or avant. Glimmer of hope in that disastrous season.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Avant had the catch of the year in that game too, probably thinking of that one

          • GMaddox

            He is a possession guy mostly. His huge plays tend not to include significant YAC. I like the dude but he has not been and will never be a deep threat like DJax. We’ll see how he plays after a bad injury.

          • OldDocRoss

            Big plays aren’t really Maclin’s thing, but he’s certainly had a few big/memorable plays. His TD in the Vick show at Washington didn’t suck and the game-tier in the Miracle at New Meadowlands was memorable.

            Wasn’t meaning to hate on Jackson at all though, just pointing out that the only reason the Maclin/Jackson conversation is seen as so one-sided today is because of what happened to each of them in 2013.

        • SoCalEaglesFan

          You wouldn’t get funny looks from actual NFL players or people who actually understand the game. And there isn’t a single knowledgeable fan who would equate Maclin with Jackson. It’s just a ridiculous thing to say. Jackson has been to 3 pro bowls in 6 years! Maclin has never been close to one. Good lord some of you are thick.

      • Maggie

        The NFL’s own ratings had him listed at #31 WR just before last season. Not one of the top players.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    Maclin is a decent receiver but nothing special … even before the injury. A fan has to be concerned. None of those guys have any meaningful experience behind Maclin and Cooper, and those two are both average receivers to begin with. Weak spot of the offense is now the WR group. Sure hope that doesn’t derail Nick Foles’ progress.

    • anon

      Maclin seems like a me sort of player — probably hated getting no shine for all of those years behind desean.

      • George

        Actually he’s one of the hardest-working team oriented guys on the squad

        • SoCalEaglesFan

          All of that is true. However, what’s also true is Maclin is short on talent. Kurt Coleman was and is a hard working, team oriented guy too. You do need those kind of players, but you also need top playmakers. Maclin isn’t one of those.

      • Ark87

        Mac isn’t a media guy. He rarely humors an interviewer’s questions, can come off a little smug or prickly. But make no mistake, he isn’t a spotlight seeking type. Very team oriented. He does have a very focused mantra that the only thing he can control is himself, and he talks from the outlook. He’s concerned with what *he* can do and how *he* can improve. He doesn’t get wound up over who’s throwing him the ball or who’s dictating coverages, he doesn’t control that. He’s pretty much the epitome of a professional.

  • NickS1

    Arrelious Benn (who’s coming anOTHER ACL tear)…. just so we’re all clear.

    • Kev_H

      Healthy he’s better than Cooper. Injuries to young players don’t bother me, but I’m surprised we don’t get any updates on a guy that fits the Kelly mold who they traded for and then signed for 2 years. It’s not like he’s a camp body or UFA.

      • NickS1

        I don’t know that I agree that he’s better than Cooper when healthy. His stat line over his 4yrs in the league is comparable to Cooper’s 2013 season. Dude has some serious stone hands, which he managed to develop upon arrival in the NFL. Kid was a stud prospect coming out of Illinois.

        • Kev_H

          He was picked 120 places higher in the same draft and produced more in the NFL despite missing a season to injury going in to 2013. People say it takes a wr a few years to develop in the NFL, then they are quick to forget about them as soon as they have a set back. It goes on all the way back to Michael Irvin and Chris Carter.

          • NickS1

            Wait a second… So in three years (as opposed to the four I stated earlier), Benn’s produced numbers comparable to Cooper’s year last year. He was drafted 120 spots higher, though. And you’re using this to say that Benn is a better player than Cooper right now? Please correct me if I’m missing something, here.

          • Kev_H

            No. From 2010-2012 he did more than Cooper. If Benn didn’t get hurt, Cooper would have been behind him on the depth chart. I don’t consider Cooper particularly talented and I don’t think we’ll see a wr start 15+ games and do so little in the Kelly era going forward. Guys who play are going to accumulate stats.

          • NickS1

            How much more than Cooper do you think he did? Thru three seasons they have the same amount of TDs, but Benn has more catches and yards, because Coop played behind DJax and Maclin. And even with that said, it’s like he has so many more yards and catches. He has like 12 more catches and 100 more yards. I don’t consider either better than a #3, but if you’re going to use last year and say Cooper did so little in a Chip Kelly offense, at least factor in that Vick hardly threw him the ball, and he played very well after Foles came in.

          • Kev_H

            He only caught something like 58-59% of his targets from Foles. Jackson, by comparison, caught over 70%. Cooper, to me, is a special teamer who hustles and fights and won’t hurt you too much if you are stuck playing him on offense.

            Benn has shown skill and I assume he isn’t a knucklehead since Kelly traded for him.

          • NickS1

            Okay, well what percentage did Cooper catch from Vick, since that was the comparison? Jaccson is completely irrelevant to the conversation and was at no point brought up…. Benn hasn’t shown good hands since he got in the league, and he’s far from the player people thought he was going to be coming out of Illinois. While I don’t think Cooper is great, I think he’s better than the consideration you give him, and to this point, he’s better than Benn. They’re still young enough that time can change that, but right now, nod goes to Cooper.

          • Kev_H

            Until last year, Cooper never caught 50% of his targets. Including last year, he has caught 51% for his career, more than 10% lower than his team’s percentage over that time (62%). Benn has caught 63% of his career targets, 3% higher than his team’s average over that time (60%). Benn is a legit receiver, when healthy, who you can count on to catch the balls thrown to him like every other legit receiver. Cooper isn’t. Over his entire career, every year, he catches a far lower percentage of balls than his teammates. He doesn’t have a particularly large catch radius. His hands aren’t great. He isn’t shifty or exceptionally fast. He hustles and fights for balls. You should be hoping that guys who catch 50% of their passes in this era spend most of their time on special teams because that doesn’t cut it in today’s NFL.

          • NickS1

            You’re bringing up catch rates for two receivers who in their first three seasons, didn’t see 100 total targets. Entirely too small a sample size to tell anything meaningful. For instance, saying Benn has caught three percentage points more of his targets than his teammates is completely useless. We’ll round up and call that a difference of 3 catches, since we’re discussing less than 100 targets in the first three seasons. How many targets did the rest of his teammates see in that time frame? Over 1200. How many targets did Cooper’s teammates see in that time frame? Over 1200. Great analysis. Here’s something to consider: Cooper is an outside receiver who has generally run longer routes, evidenced by higher YPC with lower YAC than Benn, which, more often than not, leads to less successful throws. Benn is a slot receiver, with shorter, more successful throws, evidenced by lower YPC and higher YAC. Benn may have had 10 more catches, 100 more yards, and a higher catch rate because of 10 more catches, but they still had the same amount of TDs and Cooper had a higher TD rate. Points win games, and Cooper scores them more efficiently. Let me know when Benn’s injuries don’t get in the way of him matching Cooper’s production last year, which is better than Benn’s career.

          • GMaddox

            Benn is completely over-rated. He was an HS phenom who did little other than collect a salary at Illinois. He was generally regarded as a draft bust. Cooper had a very solid year 3 and has a bigger physical presence than Benn. Let;s not get carried away about a spare part.

          • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

            Without saying Benn is better than Cooper, b/c I don’t see much to back that claim up, You have to acknowledge that if Benn doesn’t get hurt, Cooper may not have survived Chesney-gate.

          • GMaddox

            Not really. His signing shows that our FO still has some holdover man crushes from prior drafts. I just don’t think he would have showed that well if he had stayed healthy.

          • NickS1

            Going to nitpick a little here, but saying that if X doesn’t happen then Y may not either, isn’t exactly profound. But speaking to your point, I don’t really agree. Benn has been an injury liability since he was a rookie. Chip and Howie knew that, and I doubt they would released Cooper after his screw-up simply because Benn wasn’t hurt….yet.

        • Ark87

          Yeah it is interesting how that developed, but it can happen when a guy loses focus or confidence. Focus can be lost if overwhelmed by the new (mental) demands that come with being an nfl receiver…or thinking about that dude behind you locked onto your knee’s/brain like a homing missile.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    mACLin.

  • Token

    Moving the draft back was just a horrible thing to do. Would be watching it right now. Really think they are risking over-saturating people with football. I know they think its impossible. But personally im sick of hearing about the damn draft. It should be starting right now.

    • Maggie

      Worked didn’t it? People are talking, or complaining, or trying mocks. Remember that anticipation is often better than reality.

      • anon

        haha read: “Moving the draft gives us flexibility to add playoff games and/or extend the regular season”.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    Beasted out Draft! Sold the farm to get in the top 10. Here’s the prognosis…..

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 8 (MINN): Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo (A)
    Round 3 Pick 8 (MINN): Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Deone Bucannon, SS, Washington State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 32 (MINN): Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana (A)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (C-)
    Round 5 Pick 8 (MINN): Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia (A)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Dri Archer, WR, Kent State (D)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (B+)

  • anon

    Speaking Thursday, Eagles LG Evan Mathis said his contract situation won’t be a distraction this season.

    “I’m here,” Mathis said from voluntary workouts. “I’m not holding out. … If I did ask for a new contract, I’m not going to tell (the media) I want a new contract.” Mathis reportedly asked for a raise prior to the Combine, but sounds like he’s mentally moved on from the idea. Going on 33 and signed through 2016, Mathis will make $5 million this season.

    At least he learned from the djax experience.

  • IAteLunchToday

    I love it!

    “There is nobody to replace.”

    “… full potential as a player and a person…”

  • MediaMike

    The spotlight on Maclin trying to be a #1 WR is coming into focus. We all successfully had our say vs. each other the other day on Maclin vs. Jackson, so I’ll stick to Maclin here.
    I don’t see him as a #1 WR at all and I have concerns about the overall productivity of the team this year with a Maclin / Cooper combo as the starting WRs. I believe the Eagles starting a #2 and a #4 at WR could be mitigated by the continued rise of Ertz, arrival of Sproles, and more creative use of Shady.
    We’ll see how it shakes out, but “we’ll be fine” doesn’t = “Maclin will help out with that” in my eyes.

  • Sam Clearfield

    they need to put damaris johnson in the game more at WR. he is a younger sproles if they would just give him a chance