Observations: Eagles 24, Redskins 16

NFL: Washington Redskins at Philadelphia EaglesHere’s what we saw during today’s Eagles-Redskins game.

OFFENSE

* Nick Foles played well once again, completing 17 of 26 passes for 298 yards. Foles did not have a turnover and averaged 11.5 yards per attempt. He also ran eight times for 48 yards and a touchdown.


* On the Eagles' second offensive drive, they got LeSean McCoy matched up with outside linebacker Ryan Kerrigan, and Foles delivered a beautiful pass down the sideline for a 49-yard gain. He then capped off the drive by keeping the ball on a zone-read play from 4 yards out. Kerrigan crashed in on McCoy, and the safety scraped down, but Foles was able to reach over the goal line.

* Later in the first half, Foles found Brent Celek for a 42-yard gain. The Eagles motioned Bryce Brown to the right and then came back to Celek on the left. Celek looked as fast as he ever has, sprinting all the way to the 1-yard-line before being tackled. McCoy then found the end zone for the score.

* In the second quarter, Foles got hit from behind, but stayed in the game.

* McCoy had 150 rushing/receiving yards and a pair of touchdowns. He carried 20 times for 77 yards and had four grabs for 73.  McCoy suffered an injury in the second quarter, but came back into the game in the third.

* Protection was pretty good for the most part, but London Fletcher came on a delayed blitz and crushed Foles in the second. Foles was sacked three times overall.

* He hit DeSean Jackson for a 26-yard catch and run in the second. He also found Brown for a 24-yard pickup on a screen. And Riley Cooper had a 23-yard grab. Overall, five different Eagles had catches of 20+ yards.

* On third down in the second, it looked like Chris Polk might have made a mistake. Foles ended up keeping the ball, and the Eagles kicked a field goal. It looked like Kelly had some words for Polk as he came off the field.

* Brad Smith was active. He played on special teams and even got on the field on offense.

* Foles looked for Cooper deep on the first drive. It looked like the officials missed a pass interference (or holding) penalty.

* Jackson had four catches for 82 yards. Cooper had three receptions for 37.

* The Eagles failed on short yardage twice in the second half. On one possession, Brown got the handoff on 3rd-and-1 but failed to pick up the first. And in the fourth, Chip Kelly went for it on 4th-and-1, but Brown was stopped again.

DEFENSE

* The Eagles' defense shut the Redskins out for three quarters, but things got dicey in the fourth. Robert Griffin III hit Darrel Young for a 62-yard score down the sideline. Patrick Chung and Trent Cole collided on the play, and Young scampered all the way to the end zone. Later in the quarter, Griffin hit Aldrick Robinson for a 41-yard TD. Roc Carmichael had pretty good coverage, but Robinson made a nice play on the ball.

* The Redskins took over at their own 4 with 3:26 left, down 24-16, and drove all the way to the Eagles' 18. But Fletcher Cox pressured Griffin on 3rd-and-1, and he lobbed one up in the end back of the end zone. Brandon Boykin came down with the interception to seal the win for the Eagles

* Griffin was 4-for-7 for 26 yards in the first half. He finished with 265 yards (17-for-35).

* Connor Barwin came up with the biggest defensive play of the first half. He rushed off the left side and crushed Griffin, forcing a fumble in the red zone in the second. Cox recovered the ball for the turnover. Barwin finished with six tackles, a sack and a batted pass. The Eagles had four sacks as a team. Najee Goode and Cole (twice) also brought Griffin down.

* The Redskins had some success running the ball. Alfred Morris had 18 carries for 86 yards in the first half. He finished with 93 yards on 22 carries. Griffin ran 10 times for 44 yards.

* The Eagles seemed to rotate a little more than usual. Brandon Graham had a tackle-for-loss on a run play in the first half, replacing Cole. And Casey Matthews saw time at LOLB for Barwin.

* Cedric Thornton had a pair of tackles-for-loss. And Bennie Logan had one too.

* Carmichael filled in for an injured Bradley Fletcher and broke up an early third-down pass to force a punt.

* The Eagles had lost 10 in a row at home coming in. They have now won three in a row for the first time this season, and at 6-5, are in first place in the NFC East.

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  • lib4

    You forgot Pat Shumer blew another replay challenge.

    • Justin

      He needs to have that duty taken away from him. He’s been garbage about it all year.

      • Brandon

        I think his eyesight is going. Get this guy glasses or something.

    • hawaiieaglesfan

      TWO IN A ROW!!! C’MON MAN!!! CHIP FIX IT NOW!!!

    • Ken Raining

      There was no point in wasting a challenge on a five yard play that didn’t result in a first down.

      • BleedGreenJames

        It’s not “wasting a challenge” if you’re successful, which they would have been, would have saved 7 yards and made it 3rd and long. Luckily it was just the Redskins, but you can’t have those gaffes against good teams.

        • Brandon

          The riley cooper catch on the goal line was also a TD too and should have been challenged. Didn’t matter because McCoy scored the next play anyway, but that could have been the difference between 3 and 7 pts against a better team. Sooner or later we are going to get burnt with this micky mouse replay booth operation. You don’t see other teams missing such obvious plays like this. Get it together Chip!

        • The Answer

          It is ‘wasting a challenge’ because you don’t get that challenge back. Then you have 1 for the rest of the game, which if you get correct you get another but still risky to use one early on a relatively harmless 6-yard play

        • Jason

          Not that Bill Barnwell is the by all end all, but he usually has a pretty good article on Grantland on Tuesday about coaching decisions. I bet this non challenge will be defended as a good choice. This one isn’t as cut and dry as the two last week, I think you could argue both sides. I think the bigger concern is allowing Shurmur to be in charge of challenges.

    • Maggie

      Games was not even over yet, but you found something to whimper about.
      And it’s Shurmer.

      • flyigglesfly

        Wrong! There is a pattern with missed and obvious challenges. Every time a reporter asks them a question about it they give some BS answer like Andy Reid used to. “I have to put them in a better position to win…etc…BS” Let me text you Chip and in five seconds you will know. You know why Philly fans hated Reid and McNab? Because they wouldn’t admit their faults…they were full of BullS.H.iit

      • BigWhoopWannaFightAboutIt

        Yea, its actually Shurmur. If you are going to correct someone’s typo, you might want to make sure your spelling is on par.

    • TC

      Missed at least 2 of them. Riley Cooper’s TD too.

    • pkatz

      On WIP this morning they talked about that. They said Chip took the blame; the story was that Pat Shurmur told Chip they’d win the challenge but Chip wanted to be absolutely sure since it wasn’t a game-changing play.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    keep ur foot on the throat

    • HowboutdemIggles

      They let up again just like last time. I’m not that important, but what I want to see is them going to score at least two more touchdowns, play the game like you’re down or tied the pick at the end though, *whew* they got one.

      • Maggie

        While talking about the Eagles “letting up” consider that Washington has some professional players too, and the Phila defense may have been little tired by the later stages of the game. AND a couple of guys on the offense were a little banged up.

  • Bird of Prey

    Unfortunately Fox has screw over and switched coverage in the third quarter . I really hope they don’t get the NFC when the next contract comes up again.

    • #7

      They do this on all of the channels that cover games from what I can remember

    • hawaiieaglesfan

      I hear you they finally televise an eagles game in hawaii and they cut out inthe third quarter. Fox sucks. Now I have to watch it on NFL replay.

  • nicksaenz1

    Sounds like the B247 article about the pass rush made its way to the locker room bulletin board.

  • Will

    24-16 in a last minute nail biter…to take Division lead…Yeah Go Eagles!

  • Mr. Wu

    my poor heart almost exploded

  • Guest
  • Soybot

    Got to keep the pedal to the metal Chip. That was closer than it should have been.

  • Mr. Wu
    • Will

      McCoy snatching a Deadskin Banner from a Fan..lol…

      • Maggie

        He probably would have let them alone if they hadn’t been taunting.

    • Justin

      I think that really set the tone.

  • mtn_green

    First place!!!!

  • #7

    Great job Eagles 6-5 and in first place like I figured we would be.

    Kudos to McCoy and the DEFENSE for the win.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Defense played WAY better than expected. WAY. Boy were they a happy surprise.

      • Richard Colton

        But how did Bryce Brown play? Isn’t that the story?

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          Go troll someone else. Troll.

          • Richard Colton

            I like the way you used the same insult as a verb and a noun. creative.
            you spent all week saying how terrible the Redskind D was and how any team with any QB could put up 30+ points. Trying to manage expectations. Why? so we don’t get too excited about the prospect of a new franchise QB? unlikely. or are you holding on to the hope of your crush returning to the lineup? bingo.
            not letting you get away with dishonesty. you’re exposed.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Um…so wait, I’m managing expectations b/c I expected the Eglaes 3rd or 4th ranked offense to put up 30 on a team that the Vikes put up 34 on the week before? With Ponder as the QB?

            The same Redskins D that’s ranked 31st against the pass. The same Redskins D that allowed all but 1 team (well now two) in their last 7 games (now 8) to put up 30 on them?

            Okay.

            And the ignorance train continues.

          • Richard Colton

            it’s so obvious what you’re trying to do. Who exactly is it for? yourself? #7? You can cherry-pick stats to make whatever kind of argument you want. But its meaningless because you’ll run away from the facts as soon as the numbers change.
            examples:
            Foles was a one week wonder vs. the Raiders
            Bucs were the worst D in the NFL
            Eagles can’t run the ball without Vick
            won’t stick by any of them. Because you’re a Vick fan. Not a birds fan.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            lol. So you’re still making up stuff? I’m trying to do what exactly? Cherry pick stats? LOL. What am I cherry picking? All I wrote above is true. SO let me understand:

            You’re mad b/c I said we’d win the game against the Redskins and that somehow means I’m not a birds fan?

            RIGHT.

            I never said any of the things you’re claiming I said. That’s you and your inability to read and comprehend or as it seems, interpret what I write to fit whatever narrative you have going.

            Typical. And comical too.

          • #7

            Rich you’re getting handled by BBaS. Just calling it how it’s clearly posted on here

    • cliff henny

      if you cant give foles credit, then everytime you claimed you were eagles fan first, vick second…was just down and out lie.

      • #7

        Huh? McCoy and the defense won the game!! So the new rules are, we have to mention Foles in every post if we win?

        You guys are nit picking big time

        • cliff henny

          foles play got them up early. defense played great. every eagles fan knows these games are all abut foles. your boy vick is done as disco in philly. 350 all purpose yds, no turnovers, good decision making all day at the most important position on the field, but sure spin it like he wasnt even there.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Ya’ll can’t keep Vick out your mouth…even when no one is talking about him. lol. Classic.

          • cliff henny

            #7 specific…we all know he’s all about vick. if it was any other poster, i wouldnt of addressed it…but they would have included foles. there is no way a true eagles fan could have watched that first half, and 1st 2nd half drive and not inlcude foles’ play…especially considering his play and possibility of being future qb is really the driving matter for this team. it’s gravy if they make playoffs.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            The man didn’t bring Vick up. You did. So now you’re reading into what he says and secretly seeing Vick thoughts. Come on dude. everyone is commenting on the game TODAY. The PLAYERS in the game today. Nothing else. Let it go.

          • #7

            Man I expected more from you lol. Why in the hell did I do that. You people keep bringing up Vick.

            The man didn’t play today henny.

          • #7

            OMG man. I would expect more from a guy that’s been a fan of the Eagles for 35 years as you always brag about. I wasn’t knocking Foles man Jesus Christ. It’s a team. I don’t recall Foles making any tackles or running for any TDs like McCoy.

            I don’t need your approval. I don’t care if you’ve been a fan for 100 years. I have my own views on what won the game for us and that is McCoy, our best player, and our defense played well.

            And also, we won!!!! Someone doesn’t mention Foles and that’s a problem?

            Please explain that to me.

            And don’t come with the lame ass “you live in ATL” excuse. You live in SC, so I guess you’re now a fake fan with me since you live in SC

          • cliff henny

            born and raised in lancaster, went to ship, live in philly till i was 35…just moved on to sandy beaches and drinks with little umbrellas in them.
            .
            it’s fine, we know it’s killing you.

          • #7

            Then why am I here? I should have left the blog weeks ago, right?

            But once again you’re scared to address yourself. You didn’t even want Foles and now you’re one of his bodyguards lol.

            That is WEAK, especially from a fan of 35 years…as you claim. You look exactly like one of those fake fans that you intentionally label when you don’t know a damn thing about that person.

            WEAK

          • cliff henny

            right, no one heard from you…you’ve been a running joke on phillymag for couple weeks.

          • #7

            ???????

            You think I care about that? I’m right here in your face.

          • Pennguino

            Longer

          • #7

            lol. joke away. I don’t give two shits what your jokes are

          • #7

            Excuses. You’re a fake fan.

          • cliff henny

            lol…personal attack, last refuge of a true troll.

          • #7

            Read you posts sir. Your thong got tangled up because I unintentionally did not mention Foles.

            Coming from a fan of 35 years. Unbelievable

          • nicksaenz1

            What part of Lancaster? Grew up in York County, went to Bloom.

          • Stats

            Foles rushed for a touchy F.Y.I.

          • Andy124

            I don’t recall Foles making any tackles or running for any TDs
            Didn’t you just tell Nick that you have a good memory?

          • #7

            Good catch. No prob

          • All Things Bad@ss

            I think the point everyone’s trying to make, #7, is that not mentioning Foles in your praise of the win today is akin to thanking everyone for the killing of Bin Laden but “unintentionally” leaving out the members of Seal Team 6. The incredible amount of responsibility QBs bear, week in and week out, is immense … far more than any other player on a team; it’s why they sign 100 million dollar contracts. Just because you have an obvious hard-on for Vick doesn’t mean you can’t give proper credit where it’s due.

          • Maggie

            Disco is NOT done! Vick, maybe, but not my music!

        • theycallmerob

          McCoy and the defense did not win the game. McCoy had half of his total yards as REC (and both TDs came at the 1 yd line after monster pass plays to Coop and Celek). Barely missed a deep bomb on the opening drive that would have set the house on fire.
          There is no way you should leave Foles out of any sentence talking about who won the game today.

          • #7

            You have the right to your opinion. I have my own opinion. It’s not your job to try to correct me

          • theycallmerob

            That’s fine. Than along with everyone else on here, it’s easy fodder to justify our opinion that you’re a trolling tool.

          • #7

            You’ve been drinking your Foles beer tonight. Giving you your liquid courage for your name calling.

          • theycallmerob

            Sure. that’s it. Or i recognized that the man threw 300 yds, ran for 6 ypc and crucial first downs (with slides), 5 passes of 20+ yds to 5 different guys. McCoy rushed 20-77, and two bonus scores because of Foles. But yea, the run game did work with him as QB for a third straight game. 3rd straight win. At home, first for a QB in awhile…..and against a divisional opponent.
            If you want to ignore stats, fine. But you can’t be irrational and get mad at others for calling you out on it. Even Vick would say “weak move, brah” (listen to your idol)

          • #7

            Good for Foles. I did not criticize him one time.

          • #7

            I could care less about everyone else’s opinion. I’m not a follower like you

          • theycallmerob

            I believe the term you meant to use was “fan”. When you follow a team, it’s called being a “fan”

          • #7

            zzzzzzzzzz

      • BlindChow

        McCoy averaged 3.9 yards/carry. Not exactly gangbusters. He did have a lot of yards on that one catch, but who threw it to him in stride? LOL, yeah, we all know what’s going on here…

      • BlindChow

        Foles completed 65.4% of his passes, averaged 6 yards/carry on the ground, had a rushing TD and a passer rating of 104.3.

        I don’t mind that he can’t bring himself to give Foles any credit for this win. Who cares? But it sure is hilarious seeing him contort his responses each time Foles does well. Enjoy the squirming!

        • #7

          Contort my responses? I’ve said that FOles is the starter for the season. Not sure what else you people want

          • BlindChow

            I just want you to keep posting.

          • #7

            No problem. I’m at 2556 comments…and counting

    • Wilbert31

      This statement is as transparent as it gets. Please change your handle to “scotch tape”

      • #7

        Kleenex costs about 1.99. Get you a box

  • Kev_H

    Still not sure what we have in Kelly when it comes to NFL game management. The team has recovered from his early snafus and is in first place where it belongs, but this one ended up too close for comfort. Hats of to the squad for winning in spite of it.

    • anon

      I’d have preferred to see a 42-0 game.

      • Maggie

        It looks as though what you really prefer is complaining.

  • cliff henny

    fox showed it down here in SC, went to friends house…bastards took it off after redskins first punt being down 24-0. knew it wasnt over, being 35 yr fan, seen alot worse loses than that would’ve been. but sort of happy i didnt have to see kelly take air out of the ball. this is twice, it’s really going to suck when it costs them a game after playing so well for 35-40 mins

    • SeaDucks

      Don’t worry, CK will figure out no lead is too big. His still conditioned to college mentality where killing in the first half= nearly unsportsmanlike in the second half. Not anymore.

      • cliff henny

        well, he usually doesnt need twice. i didnt see 4th, guess he was trying another 9min all run drive.

    • Maggie

      Well, there was another team on the field. And some of them are paid professional football players.

  • Andy124

    Why is Westbrook talking about drafting a QB at all?

    • cliff henny

      he looked great. i’ve been skeptical, but we might have ourselves a qb boys

      • Richard Colton

        maybe. its beyond Kolb at this point. I’ve reached Donnie Mac ’99 level. Still don’t want to get my hopes up too high. Had my annual medical screen yesterday. 150/88. So I can’t afford to be burned.

        • Token

          Yea…. Im still afraid to go all in. But this aint Kolb, that is for sure.

          • cliff henny

            win at dallas for nfc east…that’ll do it. but yeah, he just doesnt have wow factor, but roll couple more w’s with 300+yds will get me soon enough. i’m at least sold on olb/wr in rd1/2 now for sure.

          • Token

            Well his overall production has a wow factor though. Hes not cool or edgy, doesnt run a 4.4 40 and certainly doesnt have any street cred. But I dont want that guy as my QB anyway.

            So far Foles is what I want in a QB. A accurate passer with a head on his shoulders. He can play for sure. The question is how good can he become.

      • Mr. Wu

        yeah every week I expect him to dissapointnd he suprizes me everytime….jope this is the real deal

        • Token

          Was nice seeing him throw accurate passes while RG3, who cost 3 1st rounders, was throwing balls all over the place.

    • Richard Colton

      In #36′s defense, he looked like he was in pain when Barkan asked him the question.

      • Token

        Just a brutal program. After the coaches PC I always turn right back to Redzone.

        • Richard Colton

          talking about Comcast Sportsnet – for those of you who are in Atlanta, silently weeping after “your” Eagles won.

          • #7

            Add your boy henny in there. Don’t forget him now since he’s in SC. 2 hours from me.

            i see that you’ve switched back over again with the attacks. You’ve been civil with me the last couple of weeks. You’re right on schedule though.

          • Richard Colton

            you don’t live in Atlanta, but you know who does? Atlvickfan…BBaaS (and her 2 other avatars)…and a few other Eagles “fans”

            and Cliffs a transplanted Philadelphian. different story all together.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            I don’t live in Atlanta. And I only have 1 Avi. Thanks. But I see you’re still being a willfully ignorant j@ckass. At least you’re consistent.

          • Richard Colton

            Cobb County? whatever. continue to parrot the same nonsense. watching Eagles games must be getting harder for you every week. but hey, you got a few years out of the Vick jersey, so you’ve got that going for you.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            I don’t live in Cobb county. I’m not from Atlanta. I don’t live nor am I from the state of Georgia.

            Nice try though. Your ignorance is astounding. I don’t own a Vick jersey. I don’t own ANY football jersey. See no point in making billionaires more billions. I watch the sport that’s good enough.

            But hey you get to keep spewing your idiotic, ignorant bullsh*t and looking like an @ss in the process.

          • #7

            ouch

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            He keeps trying It’s cute though.

          • Richard Colton

            You two are great. seriously. Like when I said “you must have a Mike Vick jersey” and you were like “snap, I don’t even HAVE a Mike Vick jersey.” Burn. felt pretty foolish after that one.

            Feel free to continue to backtrack on every Vick/Foles point you ever made. Proves what kind of fan you aren’t.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            “”snap, I don’t even HAVE a Mike Vick jersey.”"

            Someone’s true colors are showing. I like how you’ve been wrong about everything you’ve said to me so far today..yet that’s the best comeback you have.

            FUNNY! You’re SO pathetic it’s comical.

          • Richard Colton

            thank you. Good news is that you’ve got two weeks to do some research about how bad the Cardinals Defense is before we play them. That should cushion the blow a little.

          • #7

            Never said I didn’t live in Atlanta….

            I’m not putting Foles in the HOF and really I did not criticize Foles in any post on this thread nor did I mention his name.

            Sorry. i don’t jump on the bandwagon…on and off…as frequently as you do.

          • Richard Colton

            nothing wrong with it. I used to live in Colombus, GA. And no, you haven’t ripped Foles for a few weeks. An “I was wrong about Foles & Vick” would probably go a long way with this crowd.

          • #7

            An “I was wrong about Foles & Vick”

            No need for that. Foles earned it on the field. But to be criticized and people get mad because I gave credit to #25 and the DEFENSE…I don’t see why that is so bad, especially coming from people who wanted Bridgewater and every QB coming out of college.

            I’ve given Foles credit, but I don’t need to clean my chin like a lot of you do on here.

            Foles is playing well, but I care that we’re winning. Like I wanted and predicted since OTAs

          • Richard Colton

            when I’m wrong I say so. you predicted Foles would play well and win since OTAs? come on.

          • #7

            I’m talking about the team winning and making the playoffs since the OTAs, not Foles.

            Don’t play games. You knew what I was talking about. Just like you were a huge part of the “Tank for Teddy” team.

            It’s up for debate on who was the leader out of you and Token..who are now Foles’ biggest backers (protectors) now.

  • cliff henny

    i could get used to this knew defensive habit…legally crushing qb so their helmet pop off

  • Token

    First off, I wanna say im pretty surprised what RG3 has become. I was a big fan of his coming out. He was a very accurate thrower then. That has all gone away now. Very inaccurate. Very sketchy in the pocket.

    Its also odd how dependant the team is on Morris considering how much they gave up for their franchise QB. Just weird. I get that is the Shanny system and Morris does well in it, but I find it odd.

    —————————-

    Foles another good game. Seemed to see the field well today. Decisive. Id rather not see so many keepers. Just gonna lead to injury. But sometimes its just too easy to pass up. Really great throw to McCoy on that wheel route

    McCoy….. I mean we know already.

    Peters didnt seem too great to me today, but cant say I watched him each play.

    Looked like Goode played well. I dont think you lose anything when he plays over Kendricks. Probably has better instincts than Kendricks.

    Chung is god awful. Coleman should play over him if needed, and im aware how awful that choice is. Hopefully Wolff gets healthy over the bye.

    Boykin, I continue to be a fan. I just think hes a stud. I thought he did real well in a tough matchup last week. And again here I thought he played well.

    Im willing to say im fine with Connor Barwin being the other OLB here going forward. The guy is a bad pass rusher. But he just does a number of other things well. And he seems to give it all each play which cant be underrated. They get a legit pass rushing OLB opposite of him and they should be OK there.

    Great ST today. GREAT last punt by Jones.

    Now, I gotta say im still not fully smelling roses with the defense. There were a ton of plays they were beat on only to get bailed out by a awful pass. But, given what they are working with, holding opponents to something like 17 points over the last 7 games is still impressive. Especially given that Fletch and Wolff were out.

    Chip still has things to learn. This is the 2nd or 3rd time he let up waaay too early. Which is odd since hes coming from college where you run up the score. Dunno if Shurmer has too much input or what. But its gotta change. Skins were ready to quit and they stopped the tempo and stopped passing the ball in the 3rd quarter. Just too soon. And the challenges have to be figured out. It could kill you at some point to miss out on these really easy challenges.

    • cliff henny

      rg3 and shanarat and rat jr…coaching matter in nfl. thank gawd we have kelly

    • BlindChow

      Barwin is tied with Curry for the most sacks on the team this year. Maybe not elite, but it’s not “bad.”

      • anon

        especially considering it’s not his strong suite. Gives you the sacks and great cover / edge setting.

        • cliff henny

          could really tell today how cole lacks at setting edge compared to barwin. barwin’s not flasy, but gets the job done. and pasting rg3 is always good move if get me to like you more.

    • Richard Colton

      Tough to make that statement when Cole has 2 sacks. But I have to say I agree. Need a major upgrade at S and OLB

      • cliff henny

        cole was getting torched on the sweeps. why i like him as a 3rd down rush specialist next yr. give him 25 snaps to terrorize qbs, let some kid do the olb heavy lifting.

        • Token

          Any beast OLBs we have a legit shot at? Barr will be long gone.

          • cliff henny

            shazier should be there at 20. vannoy, kid out of georgia tech, attouchi, something like that, in 3rd. breslin in 2nd out of usc is looking nice. to get barr would be same issue as we had with getting mariota, have to trade all those picks. great feeling in being able to trust a coaching staff, think if evans drops due to speed, they’ll find a olb in 2nd. safety needs o be young vet, wolff and rookie would scare me. clemmons, ward or just sign byrd already

          • Token

            Yea safety should be easy right? Sign Byrd. Play Wolff next to him.

            My fear is that they buy into Allen 100%. I think they resign him and just go Allen and Wolff again.

          • cliff henny

            tough to 2nd guess kelly a this point. he does seem to believe secondary can only be as good as front 7, so wouldnt shock me. besides olb, allen is really only position needed to upgrade. guess corner, but those guys can be found, like a fletcher and roc doesnt stink…cary is basically a waste of money, besides attiude and handful of plays.

          • #7

            Cary isn’t a bad player. Hard to cover WRs period with the rules that are in place. Dude would be considered an above average corner 15-20 years ago.

            He is a part of our turnaround on D. We give up yards but not long TDs. And he tackles. I’m good with Sconces

          • cliff henny

            cary’s tough case for me…cause he really annoys me for 99% of the time. he plays so far off, no ball skills, runs his mouth…and just when he’s about to get into the rare air of most hated eagle with izell jenkins, coleman and casey matthews, he makes a play. problem is he’s a #2/#3 corner as our #1, kind of set up to annoy.

          • #7

            Henny good CBs are hard to find. He’s not giving up TDs, tackles and that’s what’s important to me. Glad we signed him

          • anon

            Plus can’t discount the attitude adjustment he brings to philly.

          • anon

            Frustrating to watch sometimes, but there’s no GIFs of him missing tackles or avoiding contact as the WR scampers into the end zone.

          • Wilbert M.

            Cary Williams is terrible and an idiot to boot. All he does it let guys catch the ball in front of him. He looked like a fool when he was preening like he made a great play when III was throwing it away. I can’t wait until he’s replaced.

          • #7

            Does he make the tackle?

            Yes.

            I’ll take it. Who would you want in his place? Nnamdi and DRC?

          • nicksaenz1

            Depends which DRC we’d get. This year’s or last year’s? I’d take this year’s over him, not last year’s.

          • #7

            Well of course. You also have to realize that he might have gotten lazy here, while in Denver, he’s on a one year deal I think.

            People get on Sconces, but I like him on my team

          • nicksaenz1

            Every game he does something that makes me want to rip my hair out. Today, it turned out he didn’t do anything wrong on that face mask call, but I definitely thought he was getting a PI call, which would be normal for him. So, naturally, my blood pressure was through the roof, initially.

          • #7

            Have to take the good with the bad. Sconces is tough and does not give up the big play TD which is huge. Besides there are few shutdown corners today. Rare commodity. This is the role of a CB today. Don’t give up the big play and tackle. INTs is gravy

          • nicksaenz1

            Yeah, but PIs are not welcome. He’s good for too many of those, or it at least seems that way.

          • anon

            sconces has 3. Boykin has 2. Fletcher has 4 (but has also missed a handful of games). http://www.nflpenalties.com/team/philadelphia-eagles?year=2013

          • UKEagle99

            Is that coaching?

          • #7

            Yep that too

          • nicksaenz1

            Certainly could be. Could be scheme.

          • Adam

            Helds they have a good pass rush and play with the lead most of the time. I’ve seen many a plays this year that leads me to believe DRC is still DRC, but no team has a chance to expose him like they did here in Philly.

          • GEAGLE

            Congrats for ignorant statement of the day…you enjoying this teams new found toughness? Think Cary doesn’t have any hand in touching this team up? Just his competitive nature in practice is huge for a gutless team like us last year…

            Cary ain’t going anywhere

          • Richard Colton

            last 2 times we made a major move in the the draft to go up and get a premier pass rusher? Yep. McDougle and Mamula. So I guess I’m cool with draft day trade, as long as its not for Mack.

          • Token

            Yea its tough. I think pass rusher is the most often busted pick in the draft.

          • UKEagle99

            So avoid pash rushers with surnames beginning with M?

          • Richard Colton

            that’s it. a Clowney I’m fine with.

          • GEAGLE

            Trust me…you WANT Mack!!!

          • GEAGLE

            Mack, Nan Noy, Beasley…

      • Token

        One game doesnt make a season. I like Cole. But we need someone else starting there for sure. Should be a top priority IMO.

        • Maggie

          Cole had 2 sacks AND was back in coverage. Of course, he ran into his own guy, but he was trying!

          • UKEagle99

            I love Cole but he isn’t the future.

        • anon

          He’s a vet trying to learn a new position. I’d like to see him in the last 6 games of the year.

          • southy

            Love Cole but I’d be happy to watch him in a 4-3 next year, getting double-digit sacks in the AFC.

      • #7

        They will have to find a gem deep in the draft. Barr will be long gone

        • Richard Colton

          something Howie hasn’t done yet

          • BlindChow

            I submit Boykin. And, hey, maybe Foles, right?

          • Richard Colton

            disagree with Boykin. 4th round is where you should get a quality nickle CB (credit to JR for pointing that out). Foles? yeah…we’ll see. harder and harder to argue against that.

          • nicksaenz1

            Wolff turning into one.

          • anon

            Najee Goode taking Kendrick’s job. I’m ok with that.

          • #7

            Easy now

          • Token

            Like Nate Allen, Kendricks will be giving a ton of opportunity because he is a 2nd round pick. Goode has better instincts it would seem. They need another ILB next year IMO. Dont have anyone who can come up and pop a Morris in the hole.

          • southy

            Not a lot of people in the NFL can come up and pop Morris in the hole. People who haven’t seen ILB talent in a decade in Philly getting greedy all of a sudden. Ryans and (yes) Kendricks are world-beaters compared to the guys we’ve had.

          • nicksaenz1

            Certainly not going to be mad if so, but I’d like to see how Kendricks responds. No one has pushed him for his job yet. Worst case, either is great trade fodder.

          • theycallmerob

            Really? Because it seems a whole lot of Howie’s picks from this year and last are doing pretty well

          • Mike Giongo

            You’re also forgetting Cedric Thornton…He has quietly been playing at a Pro Bowl level the whole season

          • Richard Colton

            believe Thornton was a UFA, wasn’t he. But yeah – hidden Gem. I’m not down on Howie, I’m just from Missouri.

    • nicksaenz1

      I agree with most things, and especially Chip letting off the gas. That’s the second time against the same team that he let up too early. You don’t worry about running the clock out until the last 4-5min in my opinion, unless you have a ridiculous lead like 5+ scores. With the rules favoring the offense as they do, it’s a little easier to come back from 3 scores down in the 4th quarter.

    • pjcostello

      Sometimes those passes that look easy are missed because of the pressure by the defense — throwing off the rhythm and the timing, of either the QB or the receiver (or both). The angles we’re given to watch on TV sometimes make plays look easier (from above or on the side) than they look from behind the LOS. Maybe something IS wrong with the guy, or maybe not. It’s hard to tell sometimes.

  • Andy124

    Side note: Matt McGloin!!!

    • Richard Colton

      we are

      • Andy124

        Penn State!!!

  • BlindChow

    Hey, Eli just threw a pick in the red zone!

    • UKEagle99

      Cue close up of the pout and its your fault look.

  • 1972

    My team is officially A TEAM!!!! Offense finished it last week defense finished it this week. 70 yard punt???? everybody came to together.
    Phil simms merrel hoge kiss my ass!!!!
    My team has the number #1 offense in the league.

    • UKEagle99

      If you can find them, maybe you can hire, the…. A Team.

    • hawaiieaglesfan

      Phil and Merrel Sports analysts my a$$!!!

    • HowboutdemIggles

      Well if you kept up, you would know that Phil Simms recently just praised Nick Foles and brought up how it’s unfair to not appreciated Nick’s seven TD passes, just because he’s Nick Foles.

      • 1972

        he’s a little late to the party. like I said: F phil simms!!!

  • levdog

    The highlight of the game was when M. Reese called Foles on one of his runs in the 1st half, “tricky nicky”. Tricky Nicky ended up with almost 50 yards running.

  • hawaiieaglesfan

    Nick “FO real” Foles!!!! Saint Nick delivered first home win. Gimme the NFC East title for Christmas. FLY EAGLES FLY!!!!!

    • UKEagle99

      Stick to the one forum name GEagle. Your posts under that one name are long enough without jumping states and signing in :P

      • hawaiieaglesfan

        Sorry not GEagle. Genuine Flyin Haaaaawaiian!!

  • anon

    Anyone see the first quarter missed challenge for Morris being out of bounds?

    • hawaiieaglesfan

      Yep! What r they doing? They sleeping in the coaching booth? Two times this is totally inexcuseable.

      • anon

        yeah they need to fix whatever it is that’s wrong.

    • UKEagle99

      Shurmur didn’t. What we did / didn’t see counts for nought.

      • southy

        Shurmur saw it, relayed the info, Chip decided not to challenge.

  • Matt Broad

    Even though this is an accurate depiction of his footspeed, I have finally jumped on the Nick Foles train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9d2Y1We-d0

  • anon

    Trent Cole coming on late in the year? Eagles jumped up the sack board today.

  • anon

    Curt Coleman forcing fumbles outchea. If we keep improving at the same rate it’s going to be dicey at playoffs time. I’m trying not to get excited but we DOMINATED the skins today. 3 in a row — only NFC east team above 500. They literally turned the game off in the 3rd quarter b/c it wasn’t competitive. That’s fantastic.

    • nicksaenz1

      I’m trying so freaking hard to not think about playoffs. It’s tough.

      • cliff henny

        last game at dallas is going to be massive.

        • pjcostello

          Yes — unless Dallas is done by then, or we are.

  • Tom w

    Funny people saying chip led up too soon on offense.. Same guys said he played too fast and passed too much and didn’t run the clock out in the first redskins game. Geezus Christ the coach can’t freaking win in this miserable town. Last week he ran off a 9 minute drive to end the game. Did taking the peddle off fast offense work last week. Damn right it did. Geez what short memories we all have

    • anon

      Well that’s not true. He let off the gas too son in the first skins game. In the packers game we never gave the ball back. This time we gave the ball back repeatedly so if we can run out the clock and they’re scoring points, let’s just score points. It was clear the skins didn’t have an answer for what we were doing.

      • Tom w

        Go back and look and the articles and stupid comments after the first skins game …. Everyone said the offense is toooo fast and maybe chip needs to slow it down in the second half so the skins don’t come back like they did bc the offense started going 3 and out. Trust me people were crying about the tempo the entire week after the first skins game. Same thing the miserable are doing already. Swear they just like to bitch to deflect how much their own lives sucks

        • Andy124

          Not how I remember it.

        • BlindChow

          That’s wrong. The comments were all about Kelly putting on the brakes too early.

    • BlindChow

      Are you kidding?? “Letting off the gas too early” was pretty much THE complaint about the first Redskins game.

    • ztom6

      It’s a game of inches. Redskins stopped them inches short on 3 different drives. If they had made that fourth down for instance the game would have been over right then.

  • anon

    Bring on the Cowboys!!!

  • Loke1988

    Observation. Eagles won in spite of Kelly taking the ball out of Nicks hands. Lucky that is all.

  • Eric

    Does anyone have a video of Najee Goode’s sack with the dance?

  • JofreyRice

    That was awesome, until Fox switched the coverage! I had the shit on DVR, so I had no idea until I watched the game tonight. I didn’t even see the defensive breakdown. Dumbass Fox.

    Oh well, considering the last I saw of this game was 24-0, I got nothing but good things to say. This is starting to look like a serious football team.

    Passrushing edge player, centerfield safety, and talented #2 back, and this team runs away with the East. Sounds like a lot, but you have 7 rounds of the draft, FA to do it. Something may be clicking, or they may be playing above their heads, but the defense looks pretty decent right now.

    • Token

      Cant believe they switched the game so early for some. Thats awful.

      But yea I agree. Get a beast OLB, Sign Byrd and thats a nice start.

      Kendricks absence was once again not felt at all. I think Goode has filled in pretty well for two weeks. Still would like to see them get another ILB. One that can step in the hole and pop a guy like Morris. But Kendricks and Goode are real nice depth guys at LB if anything.

      How bout that Celek play? I dont know if I have ever seen him run that fast.

      You missed the end, but Chip toned it way down in the 3rd. Took the ball out of Foles hands and just went into safe mode. Almost came back to bite him. Hope he doesnt need that lesson again. Step on a team throat always.

      Whats your take on Billy Davis right now?

      • JofreyRice

        Jeez, I’m in danger of saying something nice about Davis. He was definitely bringing that pressure. The linemen look really good, and I agree about Goode. Najee didn’t miss any more tackles on Morris than Kendricks would have. Still dislike Chung, Allen, and C. Williams. Maybe Roc Carmicheal can be a decent tandem with Fletcher–provided Fletcher heals from the pec injury?

        Yeah, there were some real, honest to goodness exciting moments in this game. Like jump up out of your seat moments. Even on DVR!

        I noticed Foles got crushed in the 2nd by Orakpo, and landed on this throwing shoulder, right before that McCoy taunting penalty. Mentioned it in the other thread. He started moving and shaking his arm in between plays after that. I wonder if that had something to do with having him throw it less? Like you said, I didn’t see the end of the game, but just as a description, if you’re up 24-0 in the 3rd and 4th, it is kind of plausible to try and run the ball to shorten the game.

        • Token

          Yea Chung is awful. I mean I think he is literally up for worst player on the team award.

          Id really like to hear their internal thoughts on Allen. The media has been loving him lately. I dont see it myself. My thought is that just because a play isnt made doesnt mean Allen did well. For instance, very early RG3 had a WIDE open player he missed that looked liked it was Allens responsibility. Allen took underneath coverage as the guy was running by him toward the endzone, RG3 just missed the throw.

          Now I think Allen has played better. Hes not been god awful. Hes just below average now, or average. They need to upgrade. And I hope hes not resigned. Get Byrd, pair him with Wolff. Or if they wanted to sign Byrd and have Wolf/Allen compete for the other spot I wouldnt complain.

          They need another CB. Cary stinks. I like Fletch but the guy needs to be able to stay on the field. However you slice it, they will need another guy I think.

          How about RG3? Guy is just a shell of himself. Cant pass the ball anymore. Theres just throws that I am shocked at how off they are. That isnt who the guy used to be. And as I mentioned below, I find it odd how much the team depends on Morris. Why spend so much on a QB to have him throw like 8 times in a half? I hope Shanny stays in Washington for years to come.

          24-0 is too soon to slow it down IMO. Def not in the 3rd. Not when you are rolling. In the end it didnt matter. But it was a few seconds away from being a huge story.

          • pjcostello

            Props to Chung on at least one play where I saw him in perfect man coverage with a WR down the field.

      • pjcostello

        I wonder if Foles’ shoulder injury played a role in the play-calling in the third/fourth quarters (after the Eagles scored coming out of halftime).

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    After 3 quarters I was proclaiming this as the most complete victory of the year. Things got a little hairy in the 4th but it’s a lot nicer to have things to iron out after a victory. Class move by Barwin when he covered Griffin’s helmetless head until the bodies stopped falling after he blasted him.