Looking At Maclin’s Value

Photo Credit: Jeff Fusco

Photo Credit: Jeff Fusco

Jeremy Maclin is going to be one of the most desirable wide receiver options on the open market, should he get there.

It’s hard to envision a scenario in which Demaryius Thomas or Dez Bryant is allowed to escape Denver and Dallas, respectively. That elevates the likes of Maclin and Randall Cobb to the top of the heap, with Michael Crabtree and Torrey Smith arguably a tier below them.

[Here’s a list of the free-agent wide receivers, courtesy of spotrac.]

The 24-year-old Cobb had 91 catches for 1,287 yards and 12 touchdowns this season, while Maclin caught 85 balls for 1,318 yards and 10 scores for the Eagles. No matter which receiver you prefer, both have positioned themselves for big pay days — whether that be with their current teams or elsewhere.

What kind of money are we talking about for Maclin?

For that answer, we reached out to former agent and salary cap expert for the National Football Post, Joel Corry.

“It’s got to be somewhere between Greg Jennings and Dwayne Bowe,” said Corry.

Jennings signed a 5-year, $45 million deal ($9 million per year) with the Vikings in 2013 that includes just shy of $18 million guaranteed. Bowe inked a 5-year, $56 million contract ($11.2 million per year) the same offseason with $20 million guaranteed.

“He’s a $10 million per year receiver based on what he did,” said Corry, who believes Maclin will net at least $20 million guaranteed. “You want to say his numbers are inflated by the system? Yeah, you could say that to a degree. But what can drive it more than anything else, and I can’t stress this enough, is having a viable alternative.”

That alternative, Corry believes, lies in Kansas City. The Chiefs have not received adequate returns on their Bowe investment, and the Chiefs went the entire season without a touchdown from their wide receivers. Andy Reid might very well be in favor of making a reunion with Maclin happen.

“I think Philadelphia needs to be very careful about how they play this whole Maclin situation, knowing that there is someone that is very familiar with him that desperately needs a receiver,” said Corry. “They could be willing to pay him.”

Maclin has made it known that he wants to remain in Philadelphia. He likes the city, likes the organization, likes the system, and would prefer to end his career with the same franchise that selected him with the 19th overall pick back in 2009. To that end, it’s unlikely his representation will be unreasonable in negotiations with Howie Roseman and company. But that doesn’t mean he’ll come cheap. The 26-year old bet on himself by taking a one-year deal last season coming off ACL surgery. He followed that up with a career year, putting himself in a position to cash in.

Mutual interest aside, if the Eagles want to keep him, they are going to have to pony up.

If the two sides can’t see eye-to-eye, the Eagles could place the franchise tag on him. But that, too, will come at a steep price. The franchise figure for receivers this year will be just shy of $13 million, according to Corry.

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  • OldDocMcQuackadillyBlip

    That Bowe contract makes Riley look value for money.

    Almost.

  • Term Limit Amendment

    P Manning and E Manning together in Denver for ’15? A double retirement final year?

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Pay the man

    • djr12

      Agreed. Letting him go after kicking DJax to the curb would signal that this organization isn’t serious about winning right now. Might as well go full 76ers if that happens.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Seeing how there is no alternative & factor in the fact that he accomplished that with far less than stellar QB play, I think you’ve gotta pay the guy.

  • Jhandi

    There’s no way we don’t pay him.. we don’t have another option at a #1

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Riley Co….

  • B-West

    I hadn’t even thought of Kansas City… Strong Missouri ties for Maclin, as well as the Reid stuff.

  • See you on the Fipp side!

    Maclin is a perfect fit for our culture. The work he has put in to recover from his SECOND ACL injury, while remaining humble, tells you all you need to know about his character. I would love to see him retire as a Philadelphia Eagle.

  • Eaglehaslanded

    Pursue Dez Bryant. Enhance Eagles offense and hurt Dallas at the same time. Maclin can walk if we could entice Dez with a lucrative offer.

    • Willie Beamen

      I’m going to try to put this gently – uhhhhhh, no.

      • Eaglehaslanded

        Nothing wrong with taking a shot. Dez Bryant is better than Maclin !

        • Willie Beamen

          I wouldn’t mind taking a shot to get both, but I still don’t think Dez is a character fit. I think if you had the option to pick between the two, Maclin is the more important one to the team with the better head on his shoulders.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            Willie…we can not get all caught up in this culture and character stuff. Eagles are a football team…not a deacon board. Look at the teams that have won SBs…they all had some character issue on their squads. We can not field a 53 man roster of choir boys thinking that is going to get us to win the SB. That flies in the face of history.It is a philosophy that is unproven I still do not trust Macs knees. Sorry..I do not. Dez is a better all around talent. You have to see that…no? Dez is just passionate…that is part of being an emotional leader. The Eagles are missing that killer instinct…Dez can bring that. Willie…do not drink that kool aid. Culture does not always beat scheme. If so we would have beat Washington. Djax…who is a so called bad character guy helped beat us. It is a nice saying..but in football talent wins..and Dez is the better talent.

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

          ODB looks pretty good. Lets trade a 2nd and one of our 4ths for him. Use 1st round pick on highest rated Safety. Superbowl.

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            It worked in Madden

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

            and firstpick.com, basically foolproof

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            Oh that site where GEAGLE did like a billion mock drafts? Money.

    • Rahkem

      Dez isnt going anywhere , do you even follow the NFL whens the last time a team let their best players who’s under 28 years old hit the market?

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        Didn’t we do that last year?

        • Rahkem

          We cut him we didnt let him walk in free agency after his contract was up. ID also say that after 13 shady was our best player but regardless you’re right.

          Anyways as evidenced on the field this year our front office was a special kind of stupid for letting that happen

      • Eaglehaslanded

        No ..I do not follow the NFL..I just write posts to see how many dopes I can get to respond.
        Ask a silly question…you get a smart ass answer. I could care less about the last time it happened. There is nothing wrong with taking a shot. Such a defeatist attitude.

        • Rahkem

          Defeatist? no i just know that theres a thing called the franchise tag that Jerry Jones wont hesistate to use and any NFL fan who knows the league knows this. which you clearly dont.

          So i guess saying we cant trade for Andrew Luck is a defeatist attitude as well? some things just dont make sense and will not happen.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            A QB and a Wr is totally different in terms of organizational value. All I am saying is take a shot. If you do not get him…hey your no worse off than before the attempt…but try. You never know unless you try. Even with franchise tag…ok…Jones would have to match..if he does so be it…if not we have a premier wideout. Nothing wrong with trying…at the very least the cowboys will be shelling out big bucks against an already tight salary cap.

          • Rahkem

            id LOVE to take a shot , but hes not going to become open for bidding , The cowboys will franchise him. But i see now, I apologize for being rude=as you just dont know the rules of the franchise tag.

            IT is NOT a situation where he is like a restricted free agent , once a team franchises a player no other offers can be made , the player either signs the tender and plays for the team or sits out the entire year at which point they can just franchise him again. A franchised player can NOT sign a tender with another team that is only Restricted free agents.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            No problem bruh…thanks for enlightening me.

    • Amar, Football fan

      Both carry a certain amount of risk. Maclin is injury prone, a 3rd ACL might be looming, that could pretty much end his career.
      Dez has a much higher reward if he can stay away from off field issues.

      • Eaglehaslanded

        I agree with you…I think Dez continues to better himself. Everyone does not have the same demeanor..character..etc. Some people take more time to get centered. It is a risk reward situation..and football is a business. Sonetimes you have to take that risk. I am tired of being mediocre…I want a championship.

  • Rahkem

    Pay him , and try your best to upgrade cooper this offseason , dont want to go into next season relying on him. I also think its stupid to move Mathhews out of the slot when he played so well, upgrade cooper on the outside and improve the offense dramatically.

    Moving matthews outside is a lateral move because then your slot reciver gets much much weaker. Greg Jennings was a beast from the slot for years in GB i dont see a reason to give up a favorable matchup just because a guy could play outside. Especially when the eagles run more 11 personnel than any team in the NFL , a slot receiver is basically a starter in our offense. Upgrade over cooper with nice rookie or vet who can beat man coverage consistently ( which huff cant do so dont bring him up please) . If its a rookie let matthews play outside in 12 personnel situations but move back to the slot in 11 personell packages.

    • Dsjunior1122

      He was a rookie, watch some Oregon tape and tell me you wouldn’t get hype seeing that in the Eagles offense…he showed glimpses but he needs to be consistent…huff will start on the outside next year, book it! I

      • Rahkem

        i watched his tape extensively before the year and watched every snap he took this year , hes not a starting receiver If he starts on the outside our receiveing corps is very very weak.

        Im not gonna say youre wrong because chip likes his guys and may overrate huff the way he did when he drafted him. But Huff isnt a quality NFL starter and you can do much much better out there

        The only glimpses he showed was that he might not be complete garbage and belongs in the NFL not that he can be a starter. SO many rookie receivers showed soo much more this year.

        • Eaglehaslanded

          I completely agree with your assesment of Huff. Kevin White or Sammie Coates would be a nice addition to the receiving corps.

        • Eagles1018…Please no more du

          I hope our new head of all personnel decisions sees things the way you do and doesn’t draft his bottom tier Oregon players in the upper rounds again

        • himbison

          I just wish they used him better, you gotta admit he is a great yac wr – chip needs to get back to the screen game and use him in it – i agree he dont look like a starter but he should be more of a contributor

        • Dsjunior1122

          Have you ever seen a rookie have a great year then die off? Have you ever seen a rookie play bad then go off? Have you ever seen a rookie show no promise then go off? I can give you examples of each if you want

        • Dsjunior1122

          All those rookies would’ve been the Eagles 4th option…maclin #1 coaches loved coop so coop #2 matthews in the slot…no matter Moncrief, John brown, davante Adams, etc. no reciever outside the first round would’ve saw the field much this year or made an impact in the way they did this year…can’t look at stats and assume it would’ve been the same in Philly

    • himbison

      I think Coop aint losing his spot unfortunately so I hope he loses some weight to gain speed and works on hands n routes all off season

  • Rockedupeaglesfan

    Chip is on Gameday. I’m waiting to see if they will ask if the Eagles will try to draft MM.

  • Kevin
    • Nicky Puffy CoatS

      This son of beech all night, he chyeck, chyeck, chyeck.

  • EaglesFan1

    Is there a way to stream the National championship game?

    • Stuart Philp
    • Amar, Football fan
      • EaglesFan1

        Is it safe to download the media downloader?

        • Amar, Football fan

          I would advise against downloading any plugins or media players.

    • Rahkem

      dont downlaod anything heress a stream http://wiz1.net/channel11

      just x out of the downloads theyre just ads none are rquired to watch the stream

  • Nicky Puffy CoatS

    Maclin already turned a deal in that range, Corry. His new agent is trying to get him Mike Wallace money. I wouldn’be shocked to see around the same as Bowe but with 23-27 guaranteed.

    • Rahkem

      The deal we offered him last year was not in that range. Are you talking about a more recent offer? if he wants mike wallace money he can walk and be overpaid somewhere else just like mike wallace lol

      • Nicky Puffy CoatS

        Mid season. Who you replacing him with?

        • Rahkem

          i see , i didnt hear about that , thats really bad lol

        • Tom w

          You got a website or article referencing where he turned down jennings type money?

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            I know a guy.

    • Tom w

      He turned down 6 mil a year last year nowhere near what agent said … There is no chance in hell he gets 23-27 mil guaranteed lmao. Howie on several occasions has said eagles not interested in giving out more than 20 mil guaranteed.

  • Wiztopher

    Maclin’s a priority n I also would love to see Kenny Britt signed off of FA; every time we play him he kills us. He’s a big receiver who can go get the ball. I’m not too familiar with his “culture” or locker room fit but we could use him opposite of Mac.

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

      Only if we draft Winston and make them room together in training camp and county jail. also Hard Knocks. Epic season.

      • Tikkit, scheme fit

        Somebody’s getting cut…and not by the coach

        • Rahkem

          that was good lmao

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

          That Gregg Shiano Rutgers squad produced Kenny Britt & Ray Rice. Its like Chip Kelly’s bizzaro-world culture.

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            Culture via Hunter S. Thompson

    • Token

      Kenny Britt sucks. Its crazy that one game years ago still gets peoples panties soaked.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

        I think we have to keep Maclin. Don’t see another option at this point.

        • Token

          If they dont keep Maclin, I mean, id rather they just get rid of Chip now then prolong this mess 2 or 3 more years.

          And that statement doesnt mean I think Maclin is so unbelievable hes a must keep guy. Just means, enough is enough at some point. How long can you let a guy cripple a roster?

          • Rahkem

            very true , the only way id let maclin walk is if he was really dead set on getting mike wallace type money or somehting rediculous which i cant see.

          • Token

            Even if he does want that, so be it. The Eagles will have 176273343 million in cap room when all cuts are made etc.. At some point in time you actually have to try and win right? Like try and amass and secure talent right? Isnt that was this is all about?

          • Rahkem

            at that point you go and sign torrey smith or something lol you dont pay maclin like hes been a 5 time 1000 yard receiver lol

          • Token

            Need talent in the NFL man. Keep throwing it away and you end up, well pretty much what we are, a middle of the road team without a chance at anything.

            Shame that so many fans not only seem content with that, but relish in it and defend it.

          • Rahkem

            I dont defend any bad talent moves but i dont want to overpay guys who can be replaced ., Maclin isnt a special receiver hes a guy with some talent who plays in a great system. Lets not act like maclin was putting monster seasons up like this consistenly before Chip , you can get a maclin much easier than you can get a desean jackson , its not the same thing.

          • Token

            sigh. ok. Save the cap dollars.

            I dont get fans these days.

          • Rahkem

            Dont save the cap dollars ,go spend them somewhere else is the point lol If you can get torrey smith for cheaper and get someone else like byron maxwell because of it ill take that all day.

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            Maclin is the best FA wide receiver in this class. Cobb is basically his equal, but neither will be cheap. Torrey Smith is rightfully stated to be a tier lower in the article. I’d rather overpay Maclin a couple mil to have the talent and continuity over anyone who’s likely to become a FA. Unless the unlikely happens and D. Thomas or Dez get free, you’re resigned to having to overpay Maclin.

          • Rahkem

            a couple mill im cool with , but you said mike wallace money , at that point im out and i cant get out any quicker. I believe mike wallace ahs the highest base salary for a receiver in the league

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            Well, I also said I think he’d take essentially the same as Bowe’s deal but with much more guaranteed, like 23-27mil. So if the difference is between 56 and 60, I’m A-Ok with that. Not sure he’ll get the full Wallace guarantee with that knee.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Agreed, unless we are getting Dez or Thomas, eat a few extra mil for Maclin

          • B-West

            I hate their yearly cap savings, but I think something has to give if Maclin wants top dollar. Chip can get guys to over achieve.

            But spend the money, get me Revis, McCourty and whoever else we can get to sure up the defense.

          • Token

            Who has overachieved in two years?

          • B-West

            Come on now. Cooper. Jackson had his best year. Maclin had his best year. FOLES! Even Sanchez wasn’t nearly as hated as usual.

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            Be fair, by the end he was.

          • B-West

            True. I can’t believe we get a bad rap as fans and we gave the Sanchize a real shot at a fresh start. The Sanchize! No other fan base is giving that guy a chance.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            But what happens when players who over achieve fall back to earth? Riley Copper and Nick Foles 2014 happen

          • B-West

            That’s one of my main fears! How does everyone forget how frustrating Maclin was for his entire career before his contract season???

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

            I can’t imagine going into the ’15 season with Matthews and Cooper as your top two WRs. It’s tantamount to QB abuse. May as well play Ertz every snap, and keep him in exclusively to block.

          • Token

            you cant really take anything off the table at this point. If Josh Huff and Cooper started 2015 it wouldnt shock me.

          • Rahkem

            LMAOOOO id retire from watching the eagles for a year or maybe id just watch trhe defense and skip every offensive possesion

          • B-West

            Shouldn’t an offensive guru coach get us some points on the cheap at some point tho? I love Maclin, but I feel like an offensive guy should be able to manufacture some points. Same as I would expect a Rex Ryan type to get some defensive guys to over achieve.

        • Rahkem

          we have some options but id only let him walk if he was dead set on getting way overpaid . Id pay him fair market value in a heartbeat but if he wants mike wallace money im pretty sure i can replace him lol

          • Token

            Eddie Royal isnt a good option. Sorry.

          • Rahkem

            Torrey Smith , Randall Cobb , Plenty of options , Maclin is not some irreplacable talent though i love him and want to keep him.

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            Be great to bring Mac back and pull off some coup to land Cobb.

          • Token

            Randall Cobb is a product of Aaron Rodgers. Hes a guy.

            Torrey Smith im all about as another WR. Not a Maclin replacement. Y

          • Rahkem

            i want both too , im just saying in the hypothetical situation that maclin wants crazy money which i dont think is the case

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            How about: Dump Coop, resign Mac, and land Cobb after the Cole/McCoy restructuring?

          • Rahkem

            would be a godlike move but i dont see it , our best chance at a coop replacment is a draft pick , i dont see the eagles paying 2 receivers and cobb will get decent money

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            True, but they could

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            Pretty sure it hurts more to cut Coop than keep him. Just make him 3rd or 4th guy that’s way overpaid.

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            I was thinking that but too lazy to look up the dead money

            Edit: The dead money is $4.8 (pre June 1) and $2.8 (post June 1). Not gonna happen.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            What do you think about Fitzgerald?

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            Oy, love Fitz like 3 years ago. I just don’t think he’s going to offer enough return on investment and someone is going to pay him too much for his age.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Better 2nd Wr than Cooper?

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            Probably I just think someone is going to give him $$$ for past performance instead of correct valuation of current skill and age

          • Tikkit, scheme fit

            If Torrey Smith could run routes and block like Riley Cooper and Cooper could run and get open like Torrey, maybe, just maybe, you’d have a single #2 receiver. Also, both of them would have to learn to catch better.

  • Token

    so Chip says Mariota thinks like Peyton. Has a Peyton brain. Eh. Just hard to say that. When he has to go past read one it can get a bit hairy. Sure thats to be expected. But you can see when he has to go from that first read to his next read its not a comfortable thing a lot of the time for him. This is the kind of thing thats gonna get him torn apart by scouts now that games are over.

    Chip can really go overboard with the media speak. You just hope some of this stuff he says isnt his actual thoughts.

    • Tikkit, scheme fit

      You’re only disagreeing with the comparison because his forehead isn’t nearly as big therefore his skull could not contain nearly the same sized brain. Dude you’re so negative.

      • Token

        Having a opinion thats not glowing of a player doesnt make it negative. Im actually all for Mariota if Chips thinks hes the answer. Living in fantasy world where everything Eagles related is roses never made much sense to me.

        • Tikkit, scheme fit

          I’m messing with you man. You’re probably just so used to defending your position that you missed the forehead bit.

  • Nicky Puffy CoatS

    I like watching this Tyner kid run, but I’m not sure he’s doing that to LBs in the NFL.

    • Tikkit, scheme fit

      Nope. He did truck that cat though.

      • Nicky Puffy CoatS

        Trucked two dudes.

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Isnt he just a freshman? if so he might in a few years

      • Nicky Puffy CoatS

        Maybe, hope so for the kid. Runs like a boss. A late growth spurt wouldn’t hurt him.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        No. Sophomore. You’re thinking of Royce Freeman.

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          Gotcha, I knew one of them was

  • Jessen

    Maclin is clutch. How many 3rd and long catches did he snag on the sidelines this year. Pay the man.

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      That one handed one in the NIner game was nasty

  • Nicky Puffy CoatS

    Nice improv by Mariota but terrible coverage afterward.

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Man Oregon is slicing them up opening drive. I wish our O looked like this opening drive

  • Tom w

    Sorry joel but you conveniently ignored more realistic contract comparisons like djax, victor cruz, eric decker, and pierre garcon …. Twenty mil guaranteed is wayyyyy too much and no chance of happening for a good system wr …… I could see a deal somewhere between 7-8.5 mil a year for 4-5 yrs w 14-17 mil guaranteed ….. Certainly not 20 mil guaranteed and not ten mil a year … The bowe deal was a joke overpay same w jennings …. They arent megatron or fitz neither is maclin. Sad no contract comversation

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Good start for the Eagles farm team.

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Look at that Special teams lol

      • Tikkit, scheme fit

        Fipp would approve.

  • EaglesFan1

    Now that was hustle!

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Man these WRs… SMH

  • Nicky Puffy CoatS

    This Zeke Elliott kid is no slouch, either.

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      Kid’s impressive. And this is the third string QB. Ridiculous. Wonder if Chip will regret giving Urban those pointers?

      • Nicky Puffy CoatS

        Yeah, that’s a crazy story line. Does he have a good head on his shoulders? And what year is he?

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          He’s a sophomore and the only thing I know about the head on his shoulders is the “We ain’t come here to play school” comment he made. But at least he spelled school correctly.

          • okie dokie

            That was hilarious, but that was Cardale Jones. Zeke’s position on playing school is not publicly known.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I believe Jones is who Nick was asking about. See: Crazy story line.

          • okie dokie

            Ok, I got you. And while we’re at it, let’s not tiptoe around the fact- ain’t nobody there come to play school.

        • Rahkem

          he didnt take school seriously at first but he has since matured , im a lifelong OSU fan i was excited about jones when we recruited him but then braxton miller happened and i forgot all aout the kid

          • Eagles1018…Please no more du

            I want Braxton in Philly

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            Braxton? How many guys lose their jobs to undeclassman, transfer, then go on to big NFL careers?

          • Eagles1018…Please no more du

            True. I’ll go back to my corner. I thought he got hurt though?

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            He did, but he knows he’s lost his starting job. He’s already talked to them about transferring.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            And he’s not an NFL caliber passer.

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            That too…

          • Rahkem

            hes runningback or receiver in the NFL and at 6’2 200+ pounds running a 4.42ish 40 he could be a really good one. Hes natural runner , hes shown that.

          • mike

            joe flacco comes to mind

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            Not quite. Flacco lost the job in camp and never got a chance at Pitt. Similar to Foles at MSU. Miller was the incumbent and lost his job after injury. Similar to Feeley and Joey Harrington. And both of those guys were stiffs.

          • Colin

            Pretty sure that’s exactly what Russell Wilson did.

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            I’m pretty sure Wilson was the starter at SC and transferred as a grad student. He was out of eligibility at SC

          • Rahkem

            hes more likely a running back or receiver in the NFL , hes not a great passer , just good enough to get it done in college and an explosive runner At 6’2 210 running a 4.4 he can be a good back at the next level you’d hope he can be a receiver like edleman but i doubt he has the hands. Hes a natural runner though someone will find a way to get him on the field at the next level even if its a limited role.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Damn that Tyner runs with authority!

  • Jerry Pomroy

    3rd downs killing the little birds right now.

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Those two drops were killers

    • Nicky Puffy CoatS

      Sounds about right.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    I think I’m the only Eagle fan rooting for OSU.
    I think I’m the only PSU fan rooting for OSU.
    I am such an outcast.

    I absolutely dislike OSU and Meyer, but I still believe a National Championship is good for all the teams in the conference.

    • Rockedupeaglesfan

      Down vote. Unless you bet money on the game. That’s different.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Downvotes are dead.

        • Nicky Puffy CoatS

          Sigh.

        • Rockedupeaglesfan

          You got lucky.

          I do get your point about bringing the Big 10 back to relevance.

    • okie dokie

      I wouldn’t say I’m rooting for OSU, just hoping for an uneven game from Mariotta. Doesn’t feel good: confusing, morally questionable.

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, first round value

      How about that starting CB for OSU Eli Apple? Pride of Voorhees.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Our CBs are so good that I haven’t paid attention to any college CBs this year.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Man. Hate those four inch penalties.

    • Nicky Puffy CoatS

      That’s what she said.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        perfect

  • quentin smith

    It’d be nice to see them keep mac and snag torrey smith. Hes got that down field threat they missed this past season.

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    WOW

    • Nicky Puffy CoatS

      Maybe they can finally tie this up, now.

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        Should be 21-7….Reminds me of our games

        • Nicky Puffy CoatS

          Odd how that works.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Thinking I know how this games ends and what the narrative will be already

          • Nicky Puffy CoatS

            You mean something like, “We didn’t execute”?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            …”on 3rd down”

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Cookies for both of you

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Nutter Butters please.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            I have Choc Chip

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Ahh screw it. Not many fav but they’ll do.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            They’re soft and gooey

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            twss

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            lol She never lies

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Oh that’s good. I like my cookies soft. 😉

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Different game if Oregon WRs wear their magic Nike gloves

  • cliff

    Would much rather have Randall Cobb than Maclin…just saying.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Oregon better get their heads out their keischters or this will be a long second half. They’re getting beat by a QB that’s playing his 3rd game & is basically a HUGE RB with a big arm.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    21-7 despite a 2-0 turnover margin and two drives starting at the 3 yard line or worse. Crazy.

  • Rockedupeaglesfan

    I guess if OSU, who barely made it into the playoffs wins, it proves they SHOULD HAVE HAD A PLAYOFF ALL ALONG!!!!!

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Well considering that Alabama and FSU would have played in the BCS title game this year; I think that’s a safe assumption

    • Rahkem

      that has already been proven , a couple weeks ago

  • Jerry Pomroy

    What? Did Marcus just jaw at someone? Atta boy

    • Myke Lowery

      I was at their Alamo bowl game against Texas and he jawed allot during the game. Saw him standing over a guy seemingly talking smack. Haven’t noticed it at all this year though

  • Jerry Pomroy

    That lateral was just dumb. He had real estate in front of him. But, 2/8 on 3rd down for ORE has been the difference in this game so far.

    • Rockedupeaglesfan

      With some epic drops

    • Eagles1018…Please no more du

      He’s not looking like a number 1 pick in this game. A 20th pick, maybe……

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        Late late second rounder :)

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Yeah that pass he sailed over the TE head down deep on 3rd down had to have dropped his draft stock at least 5-6 spots.

        • okie dokie

          *shudder*

          Haven’t seen anything like that in QB play this year.

  • Myke Lowery

    Were any of these duck defensive lineman, namely 44, supposed to be on the eagles radar? He seems to take allot of plays off.

    • Rockedupeaglesfan

      They are all on the radar

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        They are the radar.

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Both of their ends are on a lot of teams radars

    • Jerry Pomroy

      It is the farm team after all.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Off topic, everytime I see your screename I picture Martin Lawrence saying, “I’m Mike Lowrey!”

      • Myke Lowery

        That’s where it’s from..bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Figured as much…lol.

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        Glad I’m not the only one

  • Rockedupeaglesfan

    The QB from OSU is redshirt sophomore which means he could declare for the draft. What round do you think he would go in??

    • Jerry Pomroy

      if the draft was right now?

      • Rockedupeaglesfan

        Well that brings me to my next point. If OSU wins, shouldn’t he declare? He stock will never get higher.

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          This is only his 3rd or 4th game. Risky move

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            Is it? He may have to transfer if he wants to play in college again.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Qb situation will be interesting next year

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Probably, but given the body of work I’m thinking JJ is up in his box salivating that he could get him in the 5th or later.

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      not seeing that much. has all day and most of the throws are safe. one bomb which should have been knocked down by db. though, sure he’s on eagles’ radar, he never located ball.

      • Rockedupeaglesfan

        Big guy, big arm, good athlete. Hasn’t played a lot, so he may have some untapped potential. In my eyes, he sems like a better pro prospect than Pryor.

        • cliff-reaching for busts

          7th round flyer, sure. sounds like he was a lazy sack until got his number called.

          • Rockedupeaglesfan

            I was thinking maybe 6th. But he’s definitely a flyer.

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          Looks a lot better than Pryor to me.

        • okie dokie

          It’s tempting. He moves well. Is it that much crazier than getting Barkley in the 4th? One good year vs. a couple of huge games.

        • Sid

          Agree mostly with your assessment, however you have to note that while Jones is a good athlete, Pryor is a great athlete, much more dynamic running with it.

    • Myke Lowery

      I dunno but to me he looks like 50cent.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        He’s much bigger so he’s gotta be $2.50

        • Myke Lowery

          He might have ate 50cent

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s he’s two dollars AND 50 cent.

  • cliff-reaching for busts

    ugh those drops. found myself more rooting for Mariota to do well, for no other reason than, I DONT WANT TOKEN TO HAVE MORE AMMO!

  • cliff-reaching for busts

    hope Oregon DC isnt inline to replace Davis. these 3 man rushes are driving me nuts.

    • Rockedupeaglesfan

      I figured that’s were Billy D got that play.

      • cliff-reaching for busts

        only thing i hate more than #29, is 3 man rush.

      • Eagles1018…Please no more du

        Seems like it. Predicated on stopping the run……

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      DBs looking like Eagle DBs

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Is this where the bleeding starts?

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      moment has to get too big for cjones sooner or later, doesnt it?

  • Myke Lowery

    Fumble??

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      I thought he did

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    OMFG why do WR keep doing this!!!

    • okie dokie

      I can only remember one other dumb@sswho did this.

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        A kid did it against Oregon a few weeks ago and they took it back for a td

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    What is this fascination with dropping the ball the millisecond you cross the goal line, or earlier? Do the young kids think it’s cool in some way? Hasn’t everybody watched DJ screw up and learn from that?

    • Myke Lowery

      Just a few weeks ago Oregon returned a fumble like that for a TD

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        He went to Djax Highschool

        • Eagles1018…Please no more du

          JaCCpot University

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            The School of Hard Knoccs.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            LOL I wasn’t making that up

        • Myke Lowery

          Yeah the Utah game

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      LOL Oregon should know better…. They scored on a 100 yard play because a WR did that

    • Eagles1018…Please no more du

      Just said the same thing!!!!

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Quick score! Damn that throw raised Marcus back up 5 spots on the draft board.

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      I know you jest, but it scares me some people actually think that way.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Well seeing as how that pass he sailed earlier over his TE going in to score dropped him 5, that pass must’ve leveled him back out…lol.

      • Eagles1018…Please no more du

        Wait he was joking?

  • Eagles1018…Please no more du

    When I saw the line for tonight’s game there was an over/under for a 63 yard play. I told my wife I was taking the over. I don’t look so crazy now.

    And what’s with receivers dropping the ball before crossing the plane. So Desean of that kid

  • cliff-reaching for busts

    big possession here

  • Myke Lowery

    His nickname is 12 gauge? Lol

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      mine’s 2 pump

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        LOL…. better make them count

        • cliff-reaching for busts

          mah, me and Jay have same attitude
          .

      • Myke Lowery

        Looks like jameis

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          God is a Duck fan this year

      • Eagles1018…Please no more du

        You get all the upvotes

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Mine’s Andy.
        #amidoingitright

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Lol…i knew a guy Paul years ago whose girlfriend nicknamed him 2 Pump Paul.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    This is the most blessed team in turnovers in the history of history.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      And the big club was the opposite this year.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        They stole our turnover juju! Those bastards!

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Dooh!

  • Myke Lowery

    Notice that they actually slow things down in the red zone??

  • B-West

    The suspect red zone offense looks familiar too

    • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

      Play calling looks better though

      • B-West

        Maybe… Only two throws into the endzone so far that I can remember. Both prayers.

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      what are they, 3 possessions 6 points? feels about right

      • B-West

        Strange that an offense that takes such pride in stretching defenses horizontally, in area where the only stretching can be done horizontally, struggles so badly in the red zone.

        • cliff-reaching for busts

          dline just shoots gaps, nothing to lose. get beat, lbs are only 5 yds back.

  • Myke Lowery

    OK from that shot.. Oregon cheerleaders are winning

    • okie dokie

      The cheerleaders win every game.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Anyone else think that rule where you can knock a guy OOB in EZ is stupid? You can physically wave the ball to break the plane or tap the pylon but you can’t catch the ball physically in the EZ, maintain control and be allowed to come down with it.

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      so there’s 1 advantage defense has in the whole game, and it bothers you?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        No, but it sounds ridiculous that one isn’t allowed even though you’re in EZ, but you can wave the ball beyond the plane and it’s a TD.

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          But you need two feet in the field of play for it to be catch, no matter where you are. A guy who sticks the ball out over the plane has already established possession of the ball.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            1 foot. This is college.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            I know, I though he meant coming down in bounds with the football in general. But you are right, I should have stayed at the college level

          • MagsJonesingYesNo

            It’s the same in the pros.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I get that. I guess it just bothers me that you can physically not be in the EZ & wave the ball beyond the plane & score, but catching the ball in the EZ, beyond the plane is not a TD regardless of where you land.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Cam Newton Jr. out there.

    • B-West

      Wow.

    • Myke Lowery

      He dump trucked that NT

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Still not as bad and Trent vs. Square.

        • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

          One of the few times I cheered for the other team’s player.

        • Myke Lowery

          It’s no Trent Richardson vs Kurt Coleman http://youtu.be/yDhZ2kaASvs

    • himbison

      Making the ducks d look like high schoolers

  • Myke Lowery

    Heres a hint.. They’re going to fake the jet sweep and hand off the ball towards the other side

  • B-West

    Hey defense, I hope that 90 seconds of rest was enough because we need you to pick us up again.

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      riiiiiight. they havent slowed Elliott down yet. Oregon’s defense is like the worst combo of McDermott futility inside redzone with Davis 3 man rush and CBs that cant locate ball

      • B-West

        Duck defense is dead. No pass rush. Guys slow to get up. I wish it didn’t look so familiar.

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          This why you have to get off the field on 3rd down and sustain drives on O

          • Jerry Pomroy

            You mean like OSU has been doing? 😉

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            No cookies for you

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I was merely using a relevant example

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            but you went low

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Aw, just think of it this way. Maybe just maybe this will sour some more teams on whether Mariota is NFL ready.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            I can see him suffering from the system bias from some teams

          • B-West

            At least get the touchdowns. I’m not sure I will ever buy the time of possession is meaningless argument. You let the defense pin their ears back and rush the passer, they’ll go out there all day. But you keep looking at them asking for a stop cause the offense is off the field every 90 seconds…. Idk how that doesn’t get old for a defense.

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Surprised the Duck don’t have that snap count down yet

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Down 4-0 in turnovers. Up 15 on the score board. Words. I don’t have them.

    Unrelated: It’s not like Marcus is playing poorly. Surprised they haven’t gone more pass happy already.

    • B-West

      No doubt. Put it in his hands already. Forget the run game.

    • cliff-reaching for busts

      lucky it’s not 49-14. this is a men playing against boys upfront. still think Mariota is real deal, but Oregon’s suppose to have to top ol guys in Fisher and Grasu. dl, Buckner and Armstrong are suppose to be 3rd rdrs. not seeing anything like that.

      • okie dokie

        When Ducks are on defense especially. That OSU O-line is manhandling the Oregon front.

        Doesn’t help that they keep rushing 3.

      • Myke Lowery

        44 hasn’t shown anything all game

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Have they tried blitzing A gap even once?

  • Jerry Pomroy

    LOL!! That commercial where Flutie, Jackson & Walker talk about winning “that trophy” (Heisman) & look at Montana & he raises his hand with 5 SB rings and says “what an accomplishment” is a friggin triiiip!

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      That’s the hardest I’ve laughed since the ‘Mean Tweets” from the pre-game. Not actually a very long time.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Best laugh in a while for me. Just the look on Montana’s face when he responds in priceless!

        • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

          The sound they make when the rings clink together

          • Jerry Pomroy

            And how ridiculously small his hand looks with 5 rings…

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Have you seen Bill Russell show off all his rings? crazy!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yeah lol

    • FluxCapacitor

      That one is great, but the second one where Montana draws the leprechaun is even funnier. “Did you draw that Joe?” “Um, yeah”

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Yeah I only caught the second half of that one & wasn’t sure what they were showing those pics for.

  • CHRIS – CB with dreads

    4 TO’s and still winning by 15 reminds me an awful lot of the first half of the 2014 season

  • Neanderthal

    I dont know about Mariota. I will take Jones. He was impressive

    • okie dokie

      I was just thinking about this. This was a bad game. But that’s what I wanted to see from him tonight, to make 20 seem plausible. I’d still take him at 20. I’d even trade a 2nd rounder to move up.

    • Rambler

      As a Buckeye alum and huge Eagles fan… I had visions of Ezekiel Elliott and any of the 3 Buckeye QBs in the Eagles backfield eventually. Would love to see that.

  • #TheTruthHurts

    Mariota will fall right to us!

    • Myke Lowery

      Just needs to bomb his pro day

      • #TheTruthHurts

        I think this was chips plan.

      • okie dokie

        Everyone kills it on their pro day. He has to make it look good. Show up wasted to the combine.

    • MagsJonesingYesNo

      Still gotta see the East-West game or Senior Bowl.

  • B-West

    Hopefully this game sours Chip on picking 7 Oregon players

    • #TheTruthHurts

      Except for the qb that we’ll get at 20.

      • B-West

        Yeah I’m still down for that.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    They’re not calling a time out. Just kneel on it. WTF?

    • Myke Lowery

      Urban Meyer runs up scores

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        He always has. He’s an assmunch.

      • #TheTruthHurts

        Helfrich should send a goon to take out myer right now!

      • MagsJonesingYesNo

        “Ohio State offensive coordinator Tom Herman was named the head coach at the University of Houston, but is staying with the Buckeyes through this game. Herman, who picked up the award for assistant coach of the year, is the **12th Meyer assistant to become a head coach**.”

  • #TheTruthHurts

    A kelly, mariota reunion is in the works!

  • B-West

    Give me some of those OSU lineman actually.

  • #TheTruthHurts

    Fight!

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Just had to ruin the 4-0 turnover margin…

  • #TheTruthHurts

    Myer is a tool. Great coach, but a tool, nonetheless.

    • Myke Lowery

      Question.. Would he survive in NFL? I think he would have a Saban like experience

      • #TheTruthHurts

        I’m not sure. He seems kind of hokey to me.

      • Rahkem

        he’s built for college like a Bobby Bowden or Nick Saban i dont think he even wants to coach in the NFL, he owns College Football

  • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

    Has Mariota declared yet? I wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted one more go at Oregon

    • #TheTruthHurts

      Nah, he’s ready to get back with his real coach! I can’t wait to see him in midnight green!

      • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

        LOL Ive given up on him coming to us

        • Rahkem

          tonight helped our cause , not much but it helped a little. He had a few throws that NFL scouts will go on and on about. One on a critical play he missed really high , another short one he missed really badly , like tim tebow status for a 1st down in the redzone.

          Again not a huge deal but some of the flaws youve heard scouts concerned about were hgihlighted and not dispelled by this game. Still a top 10 pick but tonight helped slightly.

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            Sitting for a year will be good for him, and getting drafted by the right team :)

          • #TheTruthHurts

            He’s going to the eagles!

          • MagsJonesingYesNo

            Are you quoting me Will?
            “Oh for crying out loud. Take the QB you can get, sit him for a year behind Foles, with the best QB coach you can get, let him come into the 4th quarter occasionally then turn him loose in 2016.” I could have sworn that you were one of the folks who think a rookie has to start immediately?

          • Will : C.R.E.A.M.

            I can swear you’re wrong :). Wanting some production/wanting him to be active during game days from a first round rick isn’t the same thing as not playing a rookie QB. ..

          • #TheTruthHurts

            He’s going to fall out of the top 10. I bet he falls to 20. He’s this years manziel.

          • Rahkem

            youre going a little too far , hes not 5’11 and he has a better arm than manziel. Hes still a top 10 pick and i wouldnt bet on the jets passing on him yet.

          • #TheTruthHurts

            He’s not a top 10 pick, watch and see. The jets aren’t taking a developmental qb. I didn’t see an arm that was better than manziel last night. I’m telling you, he’s not going top 10.

        • #TheTruthHurts

          Why? Is the draft over?

  • #TheTruthHurts

    Remember me saying that Mariota will fall to us. It’s going to happen. #bookit

  • EagleDuck

    Worst. Night. Ever.

  • Eagles4Life

    I see Mariota got exposed tonight. He may fall in the draft now.

    • EagleDuck

      If you saw Mariota get exposed, then you must have watched a different game.

      • Eagles4Life

        LOL I see “Duck” in your name, so I can already see where this is going. Let me know what happened when the tempo got taken out and he had to convert 3rd and medium or long.

        • EagleDuck

          His receivers dropped the ball, holding penalty, pocket collapsed, etc, etc, etc.
          Btw, I hate you… Because you’re the only person around right now.

          • Eagles4Life

            There were some drops, I’ll give you that. He just wasn’t comfortable going through progressions, accuracy got a bit off, didn’t manipulate the pocket all that well. I’m not saying the guy sucksm he’s just not a Top 5 pick. And lol, it’s all love.

          • EagleDuck

            Whatever. I hate your dumb face. I would kick my dog right now but he’s a pomeranian. And really old.

  • EagleDuck

    They ran Ezekiel up the middle 85 times!!!!!!! Is our DC really that incapable of finding a bloody adjustment to stop it JUST ONCE!?

    I hate Ohio. It’s probably not even a real place.

  • Kev_H

    What is important to remember, last year when Maclin was a free agent there are quotes that he strongly considers the big picture. If I remember right, who the QB is, depth at the position, team salary cap situation, organizational stability. He seems like a bright guy and to me, where he ends up will be a big indicator of where the Eagles go in the future.

    Some of the things fans and reporters are calling for, might not be that appealing to a 26 year old proven veteran who is looking to get the most out of the next 3-4 seasons (i.e. selling the farm for college QBs).

    In any case, he’ll earn a lot of money. He is a top receiver in this league and plays the type of game that should allow him to have a long career. He reminds me of Irving Fryar who had great, Pro Bowl seasons at ages 34-35 with the Eagles.

  • Mike J

    Pay Maclin. Pay Cobb. Trade Cooper to Reid for a conditional pick (or a cornerback that has a pulse). A healthy Foles along with Maclin, Cobb & Matthews….yes.
    Eagles are always in the top five in unused salary cap room…it can happen.
    I’d say dump Huff…but seeing as he’s a Duck that won’t happen…so I guess keep him around to turn the ball over when he gets touches or make mindless mistakes on special teams and then not take responsibility for them…

    • MagsJonesingYesNo

      So, every rookie who doesn’t become an All Pro in his first year is a bust. Right. Forget injuries. Forget the concept of who gets benched in order for the rookie to play. Cobb, Nelson, Fitzgerald, Dez, Calvin all drop passes and they are veterans. Get real. Btw, Buddy could have had a championship and a quarterback for the ages if he hadn’t told the young Cunningham to just don’t lose the game, instead of actual coaching and teaching on the offense.

      • Mike J

        Not at all…but can you honestly say that Huff helped more than he hurt? He was a reach in the 3rd and in addition to all the mistakes he made (which Matthews didn’t seem to) he shot his mouth off. Didn’t Chip release a certain player who shot his mouth off…but could actually play (when he wanted to of course). So yeah…it’s my opinion that the only reason Huff is where he is, is because he’s a Duck.
        Well…Buddy’s approach is far cry from Reid and Kelly who didn’t/don’t seem to put too much stock in defense (Reid didn’t care for LB’s & Safeties and while it’s early, Chip doesn’t seem to care who’s out there at CB). Give me Buddy’s D first approach over Reid’s (14 year) “plan” and what Chip is doing now so far any day thank you much.

  • Be Where Your Feet are

    Had Foles not gotten hurt, Maclin would have 15 tds and 1500 yards easily! Pay the man!

  • 370HSSV 0773H

    I might actually get physically ill if they allowed Maclin to leave because they won’t pay him 10 mil a year, meanwhile we have Cooper who is the most overrated, overpaid receiver in the league.

    • #TheTruthHurts

      It’s okay, we have huff…

  • jmkrav

    5years, 50mil, 18 guaranteed, but have those guarantees be 7.5 in each of the 1st two years, but only 3 in the 3rd, so if he gets injured again the team can move on. Performance incentives to guarantee more years?

  • Dwight Simmons

    Listen if they get this wrong then really youre looking at a gimmick as a team and a gimmick offense!

    • MagsJonesingYesNo

      Welcome. You’ll find that no matter how the Eagles deal with Maclin, there will be people here who will skewer them for signing him, skewer them for paying too much, skewer them for offering too low and skewer them for not offering enormous dollars to some one-year flash in Free Agency or draft a superstar who would lead the team to the Promised Land in one year, rookie or not. Other than that, enjoy!

  • Loke1988

    I take Colb all day long over Maclin but it will never happen.

    • usmcnole

      Uh..no. Cobb is an undersized slot receiver…albeit a really good one. Maclin is far more complete and hasn’t had anything close to A Rogers his entire career

      • Loke1988

        Totally disagree. Maclin played tough last year for the first time ever in a contract year. Cobb is special. Watch what happens when Maclin gets paid.

    • KobraKai7474

      Never ever ever fall for a second WR on a team with a good passing offense. Jordy Nelson is the man in Green Bay. Cobb is merely a coattails guy. He WILL disappoint if another team signs him to be their No. 1 WR.

      • Loke1988

        I watch football. I had Cobb on my FF team from the time he was a rookie so I paid very close attention. I can remember Maclin in his first pre season game fumbling to kick returns and turning his back, rolling his eyes with his mouth piece sticking out to a screaming Andy Reid going to commercial. Malin will not ball out once he gets paid unlike Cobb. It’s not my choice obviously but I’d find a way to get him.