McCoy: Foles Was ‘Lights Out’ In the Spring

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

LeSean McCoy was honored Wednesday with the 2014 John Wanamaker Athletic Award.

And during the ceremony, he spoke with reporters on a variety of topics – one of which was Nick Foles.


"Nick, he wants to play, he wants to get better," McCoy said, via CSNPhilly.com. "He’s playing lights-out even in camp, but he still wants to be at a higher level. He’s at that peak where people know him like, ‘Man, this Foles, is he that good?’ Because you see the stats, you see the numbers. I think this is the year he blows ‘em out like, ‘Yeah, I’m Nick Foles. I’m Philadelphia’s quarterback. I’m the guy.’ And this is the year he blows it away."

Foles will likely be operating without his starting right tackle for the first four weeks of the season. While there still has been nothing official handed down on Lane Johnson, the expectation is that he'll be suspended. McCoy admitted that will be a blow, but spoke highly of Johnson's probable replacement.

"That would suck to lose him for that many games, but the good thing [is] we have Allen Barbre," McCoy said. "Barbre is a sure veteran backup who we gave some money to because we know he can play. And if he has to come in here and step in and play, we’re confident with him."

And finally, McCoy talked about himself. He's said repeatedly this offseason that he's the best running back in the league.

Asked yet again about that topic, McCoy said: "I don’t want to keep saying it over and over. Now it’s time to prove it. I’ve said how I felt. I’ve said what my numbers show. Now it’s time to prove it. It’s time for camp and train until camp time and put the pads on. At the end of the year, we’ll be at the same point again, and I’ll be saying the same thing. I’m tired of really talking about it. Ali said it a lot, but he didn’t say it all the time."

Video of McCoy's meeting with reporters is embedded below.

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  • Corey Dawson

    I like McCoy more and more every time I hear him talk. He’s got more confidence and swag than he knows what to do with, but year to year he handles it with more and more poise.

    • Maggie

      Does McCoy really have more free stuff “than he knows what to do with?” Well-known athletes do get quite a few freebies or discounts, but I’ll bet he does know what to do with it all.

      • Jernst

        swagger

        • Maggie

          know what ‘swagge’r means and what ‘swag’ means. They are not the same thing. Which was my point.

          • Philly0312

            Hey…at least I honestly learned something today. I had no clue…

          • Age

            If you’re trying to appear out of date by insisting that someone’s slang term doesn’t mean what they say it does, congrats. Don’t forget to tell those kids to get off your lawn.

          • Jernst

            Unfortunately you’re wrong and you don’t. While, yes, the term swag often refers to money or small gifts given away for free as you’ve chosen to repeatedly point out in your quest to correct people (despite the fact that they are using it completely correctly as the colloquial term that it has become), it also has other secondary meanings. It refers to a curtain or drape fastened so as to hang with a drooping curve in its truly formal definition. It also is a popular, in fact overly used term to describe appearance, style and presenting oneself with an air of confidence. And while it is a bastardization of the word “swagger” which is originally a Scottish term describing how some Scots walked which was misinterpreted by the English as meaning cockiness, the use of the word swag is completely correct the way it’s been used in this thread and you just look ridiculous continuing to insist you’re right when you’re not and rudely responding to people telling them how you clearly know what the words mean when you clearly don’t.

          • Warhound

            Some people just cannot accept that language changes.

          • Jernst

            I know it blows my mind. When I was a kid my Aunt was a pompous English teacher that was the same way. Always correcting me when I said something was cool or someone was a jerk. I can hear her now, “oh really is it slightly decreased in temperature” “jerk means to yank on something, don’t you know that. It doesn’t mean that someone’s mean.” Language is fluid. Always has been. If there was an equally douchey English teacher from a hundred years ago he would have corrected half the words my aunt used.

          • Andy124

            You’re absolutely right. But that doesn’t mean I have to like it. Stop making up new words you young bastards! Seriously.

          • Andy124

            misreply

          • Warhound

            Hahaha

  • Andy124

    Asked yet again about that topic, McCoy said: “I don’t want to keep saying it over and over. Now it’s time to prove it. I’ve said how I felt. I’ve said what my numbers show. Now it’s time to prove it. It’s time for camp and train until camp time and put the pads on. At the end of the year, we’ll be at the same point again, and I’ll be saying the same thing. I’m tired of really talking about it. Ali said it a lot, but he didn’t say it all the time.”

    Color me impressed.
    And you know I loved this part too:

    I think this is the year he blows ‘em out like, ‘Yeah, I’m Nick Foles. I’m Philadelphia’s quarterback. I’m the guy.’ And this is the year he blows it away.

    • JosephR2225

      I love the confidence. I don’t think the Eagles have had swagger like that since 2004, when most weeks it felt like both teams knew the Eagles were going to win before the game ever started.

      • NickS1

        I don’t know. I don’t think they were lacking for swagger in 2011 with the dream team.

        • Mitch Mitchell

          What a lot of people don’t seem to remember about the “dream team” label is that aside from the now retired but probably still naive Vince Young, no one on the eagles ever used that term to describe the team. It was media driven down everyone’s throat until everyone started believing that’s how the eagles players saw themselves. It’s a perfect example of the media saying something false enough times until it comes true.

          • Maggie

            Totally agree.

          • JofreyRice

            I clearly remember Jeff Laurie calling a press conference in mid August and proclaiming the Dream Team would win the Superbowl.

          • NickS1

            Completely agree with you that VY-only said it and then the media ran with it. I think, regardless of the title, that the team felt pretty damn good about themselves and had swagger until they started getting their arses kicked in the regular season.

    • Richard Colton

      Kinda wish he had thrown in a thousand-year reference, but you’re right Andy. Great press conference. Guy has become a total quote machine now that he has a coach who treats him like an adult.

  • Bird of Prey

    LaSean sure is sounding mature now a days. Can’t wait for the season to start

    • Frederick Douglass

      Love the Ali reference — when Muhammad was talking it up, LeSean still wouldn’t be born for ~ another decade, but nice to see/hear him make this nod to da’ man.

      • Charliefoxtrot

        I loved Ali’s trash talk but kinda soured on him over the years reading about his treatment of Frazier, pretty crappy thing to do. Nobody’s perfect though. Except for JMatt.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    10 short years ago, we first had TO and Kearse in training camp. Still my favorite season as an Eagles fan (despite the bitter end in JAX). This is the first training camp since then when I’m starting to get that feeling that maybe this team could do something special. Maclin, Cooper, Matthews, Huff Celek, Ertz > TO, Pinkston, Greg Lewis, Fred Ex, Chad Lewis (who missed Super Bowl due to injury on last play of Falcons NFC Championship game otherwise we would have won SB b/c he would not have fumbled like LJ Smith). Foles >McNabb (who threw more picks in the Super Bowl than Foles did all last year). McCoy > Westbrook. Our O-Line also better now. Big advantage on that team was the secondary and the D-Line (LB’s were garbage and got exposed on the screens and short crossers to Deion Branch all game long)

    • macadood

      But the defense is rather holey still, nothing compared to when Jim Johnson was here. Lets just hope the offense is that much better this season that it can outscore just about any team.

    • Richard Colton

      Really interesting comparison BW. I’m not willing to give Foles the nod over McNabb just yet (#5 will always love you). The 2004 D had playmakers. 2014 might, but they have yet to step up. And TO in 2004 was a monster. Its going to be very difficult for any two WR on this team to match the threat he was.

      • aub32

        Thank you for being reasonable. The 2004 D was much better than the talent we currently have, and people are assuming Mac will be a #1 WR. I am really looking forward to seeing Matthews, but rookie WRs don’t often take the league by storm. So I don’t get the automatic assumption that Mac + Matthews = top 5 WR production. (which is what we got from TO in 2004)

      • Richard Colton

        also slight disagreement on the O-line. As a unit, i’ll take Tra Thomas and Runyon over Peters/Johnson. Both groups very solid though.

        • Broadcasting Wisdom

          Fair, but wouldn’t you take Mathis, Kelce, Herremans over (I believe) Mayberry, Fraley, Hicks?

          I’m not crapping on the ’04 team by any stretch – loved that team. We are also forgetting the biggest wild card in having Chip Kelly as our coach. Gotta believe Chip Kelly with that team and Jim Johnson’s D would have gotten us one or two super bowls

          • Richard Colton

            I think Big Hank was way underrated on that team. He beat out
            a monster just to become starting center, and Cleveland threw cash at him based on that year. Mayberry was always an underdog favorite of mine. They ran that shovel pass and inside screen at will – have to credit the interior linemen along with #36 there.

            I don’t know. Hard to say. For me the two biggest advantages the ’04 team would have is D and QB.

          • aub32

            I’m with you. I would take the ’04 squad over what we have now. McNabb killed it in 2004. TO didn’t have any of the ? that our current receivers have. You already mentioned the O line, and the D (Kearse, Simon, Trot, Dawkins, Shep, Brown and JJ to orchestrate it all) The whole CK factor has people catching some extreme cases of amnesia.

          • Bert’s Bells

            Tough to call a first round pick an underdog.

            Honeybuns, for sure, rightly gets that tag. He probably would be a better fit on the later Reid OLs or in Chip Kelly’s offense but he did his best in Philly.

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll stick to my guns on that one. Guy came out of nowhere U with a severe eye issue and the whole town was ready to proclaim him a bust. He had a nice career. I was proud to cheer for him.

          • aub32

            I think that’s unfair. Chip has only coached one season. It’s not like AR didn’t get us anywhere near the SB. You can’t just assume CK would have won those games. All kinds of things happen during games.

          • Jeff Asay

            I know this is blasphemy, but go back and look up how many times the Eagles D turned over the opposition in the playoffs during the Jim Johnson era. I think his D was a tad gimmicky and the top offenses tended to put up points. He liked that bend but don’t break between the 20′s and then blitzed the heck out of a team in the red zone. It got predictable quite frankly.

        • Always Hopeful

          Loved Tra and the Congressman, but I’d take Peters over Tra…not quite ready to take Lane over Runyan though. The middle of that 04 line not as strong as the current group…imo

      • shady25

        Yeah T.O. talked smack and went out and backed it up. We’ve never had a receiver like that and probably never will as long Chip is the coach. He was a bigger clown than Desean but we loved it because that’s what needed. I like what we are doing now. I think we can have a special 3 with the combined size, speed, strength that T.O. had. Think this is the most complete group of WR’s we’ve ever had. Man I can’t wait, we are going to spread defenses out so thin horizontally and vertically it’s not going to be funny.

        • aub32

          Most complete group of WRs? Mac has never been more than a #2, and he’s coming off of a major injury. I was on the Cooper bandwagon before the start of last year, but he’s not a top WR. Matthews and Huff are rookies. Some of you need to look how well rookie receivers do in the NFL. The real reason people are excited is CK. This WR corp under another coach would have us all screaming that we let go of DJax lol

          • Richard Colton

            its OK to be optimistic in July & we’re all having a lot of fun with the Matthews hype. People think we have multiple pro bowl receivers on this squad. That’s crazy. I’m just hoping they have an answer to replace DeSean’s production.

    • aub32

      I was with you until you said Foles > McNabb. Slow down dude. McNabb was the greatest QB in Franchise history. He got to 5 NFC Championship games. Only one of which he had a legit #1 WR, and he was out during the playoff run. I get people are enamored by Foles, but let’s keep it within reason. McNabb lost a SB. Foles has yet to win a playoff game. Hell, he hasn’t even beaten a playoff team.

      • Broadcasting Wisdom

        I struggled with that one too and should have clarified Foles > McNabb at this stage of his career. McNabb’s first full season as the starter he went 21 TD, 13 INT, 77 QB rating.

        Of course Foles can’t match McNabb’s career playoff wins, but his first 16 games were much better than McNabb’s. McNabb only crested 96 QB rating once (in that magical 2004 season).

        • aub32

          That still has something to do with the talent around him. Outside of TO, DJax is way better than any WR McNabb got to play with. (Yes I know McNabb played with Jackson as well). Foles also has a coach who believes in running to setup the pass. I am sure you would agree that makes Foles’ job much easier. I agree Foles has had a better start statistically, but he wasn’t referring to rookie McNabb. He made the point that Foles now is better than McNabb in 2004. That’s insane!

      • http://www.idonthaveawebsite.com theedevilsadvocate

        like the love for number 5 very few people show him love on these websites. i cant hate on foles for a 3rd round pick in his 3rd year he keeps getting better and better and keeps impressing me just saying.

        • aub32

          I have been very impressed by Foles. However, I think people are going a bit overboard. He may end up being great, but a handful of games does not make you great.

      • Maggie

        NFL Network called the Eagles the 3rd best team of the 2000′s, behind only the Steelers (2 Super Bowls) and the Patriots (3 Super Bowls). They mentioned more wins and more playoff appearances than just about anyone else. McNabb must have been doing something right. Well, except for occasionally drilling the ball into the ground at 90 miles an hour. Maybe all those mediocre receivers didn’t want to get chest bruises!

        • Brennan Hildebrandt

          I’m pretty sure they were ranked 4th. The colts were ranked 3rd.

          • Maggie

            And I thought it was the other way around, but I did only catch part of the program, so won’t quibble.

        • Brennan Hildebrandt

          But there playoff record was better in comparison even thought the colts won a Super Bowl.

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        Completely disagree. The rest of the team took McNabb to 5 NFC Championships. He was only great until that first injury. Once his mobility was lessened, so was his greatness.

      • Eric Stratton

        Doesn’t the win over the Pack count as a win over a playoff team last year? Extenuating circumstances, yes, but it was a win, and the Pack made the playoffs.

    • travis papa

      The DL in 2004 was amazing I have vivid memories

      • Broadcasting Wisdom

        Agreed, I believe that was Burgess’s real breakout year opposite the freak – seem to remember him containing Vick very well in that NFC Champ game and then sacking Brady (could be off – was 10 years ago and was in the upper deck and have never watched a single replay, though all this talk about it and time has healed all wounds maybe it is time to check it out if it ever comes on again).

        • Jernst

          Burgess didn’t do squat in 2004 (2.5 sacks on the year). He was coming back from a broken bone in his foot and didn’t look right until playoff time. Then the playoffs hit and he was a monster. He was a huge part of our stopping Vick in the NFCCG. He had 3 sacks in the playoffs that year (including the one in the Super Bowl that you mentioned – our only sack that game). He was a free agent after 2004 and there was a lot of talk about what he was worth. He had showed promise. Was expected to be a big player in 2003 and then was hurt the entire year. Plus he had been injured for long stretches the two years prior to 2003 as well. He didn’t do much in 2004 and then looked like a star in the last few games. The Eagles really wanted him back, but the Raiders stumbled upon gold by accidentally doing something smart by signing him away from us. At the time it was a fairly substantial contract for someone that had missed 35 games over the previous 4 years. And, we simply weren’t going to match it and Burgess followed the money like he should have, and ended up posting 16 sacks in 2005 despite not being a starter at end until halfway through the season.

    • Amar

      Excellent analysis…liking the swag from Eagles players.

      • Maggie

        Are the Eagles players giving away a lot of free stuff? Or are you a privateer?

        • Tikkit

          Maggie I’ve seen these replies from you twice now. To clarify:
          SWAG- stuff we all get aka free crap
          swag/swagger- confidence in physical/emotional form aka you know you’re pretty damn good and you display that knowledge

          • JosephR2225

            Don’t jump to conclusions, Tikkit. Maybe he IS a pirate.

          • Amar

            I most certainly am not, you can ask the parrot on my shoulder…oh wait can’t see him through the eye patch.

          • Maggie

            from Merriam Webster dictionary:-
            SWAGGER
            intransitive verb
            : to conduct oneself in an arrogant or superciliously pompous manner; especially : to walk with an air of overbearing self-confidence
            Example of SWAGGER
            ‘Hoping to impress the women at the bar, the young man swaggered across the room.’

            SWAG
            noun
            : stolen property : goods acquired by unlawful means : loot
            Related Words
            prize; catch, haul, take, treasure; pilferage; windfall

            Swag does NOT mean the same thing as Swagger. Another definition of Swag is the sagging strip of fabric across the top of window. Not Swagger.
            It’s like another comment earlier today. If someone says something is true enough times, it becomes the truth in the minds of the general public.

          • Tikkit

            While I appreciate you going all merriam-Webster on me, currently swag is used as a shortened version of swagger. I’m a little put off by your supercilious and pompous tone. You have to allow that there are things you don’t know in this life.

        • Amar

          I wouldn’t know about it, I am at least 8000 miles away.

      • Pennguino

        Just saw the real Shady interview. Just started laughing my azz off at the 11:38 mark.. dead azz balls accurate. In reference to the exchanges below

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      meh… mcnabb never threw a lot of picks really… infact he his ratio is up there with the all time greats if not the best in NFL history

    • B-West

      Westbrook v Shady is an interesting case, even if its like arguing about which model Ferrari you like best. Teleport 2004 Westbrook to this o-line, this coach, and this running scheme… Wow. That 2004 o-line was built for pass blocking. The screen game is probably a wash because Andy’s screen calls and timing were great back then. But Westbrook running Kelly’s wheel routes?? Forget about it.

      • Jeff Asay

        Don’t forget what it would be like to have a QB like Foles who can throw a screen with touch on time in stride. McNabb did many things well, bit Westy might’ve thought he died and went to heaven if McNabb ever learned to throw a proper screen.

  • Scott J

    That’s just what I said to my boss the other day. I told him I’m lights out and this year I’m gonna blow it away.

  • Reasonableeaglefan

    Dion Jordan suspended four games for PED? I guess those off-season reports of him bulking up were true. I know it never would’ve happened because of Miami’s cap hit, but we dodged an imaginary bullet by not giving up our first-round pick in that fantasy trade.

    • Javi Echie

      Seen the same thing but now I also wondering if this would make the Dolphins more inclined to trade him for a cheaper price. If I were the eagles I would dangle a 2nd or 3rd rounder and see if they bite on the trade.

      • JosephR2225

        BREAKING: From the Miami Herald. Chip Kelly found sneaking around the Dolphins locker room during practice. He appeared to be slipping something into Dion Jordan’s drink. A bottle of Adderall was found on Kelly’s person.

        • Reasonableeaglefan

          Smoothie-Gate?!

      • Reasonableeaglefan

        Honestly, I’m not sure I do that. He’s an undersized guy who is now in the league system. Plus the Situation is still problematic for them this year.
        It is funny though how attitudes have changed, before he would’ve been damaged goods. Now people look at him like his value is depreciated so let’s grab him at a bargain value price.

        • Javi Echie

          I can’t say I agree with a 6’6 250 lbs man being undersized, he definitely has the measurables to play OLB. And like why not take a shot to aquire him it couldn’t hurt.

          • Reasonableeaglefan

            I’m kind of going off the reports this summer that talked about him needing to add size. (Sorry the link isn’t working, google Dion Jordan bulking, profootballtalk has it). He even was quoted saying it himself. He didn’t produce a lot last year, doesn’t seem to need more speed, I’m guessing it’s size and strength to keep from being swallowed up by NFL OTs.
            I’m not sure a second rounder is a bargain anymore. Poor first year, now this red flag. If it’s known in the league that a team has soured on a guy his market dries up quick. Look at that Diva receiver, who could really produce when he wanted to, he went for like a 5th round pick because everyone knew he was on the way out. I’m talking about Randy Moss to NE of course.

          • Andy124

            Sure, he lacks bulk to play 4-3 defensive end. He also lacks the skill set. I wouldn’t mind seeing how he performs at OLB though. And his size is find for that.

          • Reasonableeaglefan

            Good point. His size is less of an issue than his scheme fit. I still don’t think Miami could get a 2nd rounder for him today, unless Chip is still in love with him from Oregon. With out Chip in the league, the rest of the league would be lowballing Miami if Dion was available.

          • Andy124

            Could be. I really don’t even have a guess as to what he’d be worth in a trade.

      • Amar

        No 2nd rounders for him now. His next offense could cost him 8 games and another one after that upto a full season.

  • JofreyRice

    Yikes! Chip’s boy Dion Jordan now suspended for 4 games because of performance enhancing drugs. So glad we didn’t get the opportunity to make that mistake. At least our juicing rookie was good when he was in there.

    • Token

      Yes im thankful for Miami.

      I do wonder, two of the fastest risers after the season were Jordan and Lane. Maybe not shocking they are doped up.

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