Eagles Wake-Up Call: Draft Advantage For Kelly?

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Back in February, Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News wrote about how former Cowboys coach Jimmie Johnson had a draft advantage when he made the switch from college to the NFL:

So Johnson had a mental file of the top college players in the country. He either coached, recruited or played against them on Saturdays. His knowledge of the college game and its players gave him an edge at the draft table over his NFL rivals.

For his first five years in Dallas, Johnson would be studying and drafting many of the same players he had already studied and recruited at Miami. Those five years would cover his five-year recruiting cycle at Miami. He knew the achievers, overachievers and underachievers.

It’s no secret that Kelly’s role over the weekend was significant. During the season, he watches college film on Saturday afternoons. He attends the Senior Bowl, combine and as many Pro Days as possible.


Kelly had previous information on several of the prospects the Eagles drafted. He also has college contacts. For example, Kelly talked to former Louisville head coach Charlie Strong about first-round pick Marcus Smith. He chatted with former Vanderbilt coach James Franklin about Jordan Matthews. He coached Josh Huff and Taylor Hart. Jerry Azzinaro recruited Beau Allen. And Kelly coached against Ed Reynolds.

At one point, Kelly downplayed the idea that he had any kind of advantage, but he later admitted it helps a little to have coached against some of the prospects.

"I think it's a benefit," Kelly said. "Because one of the things at least I can call on is instead of some guys went to go see him in practice and then watched tape, I've seen a ton of these guys in live games. I talked about it last year when we drafted Zach Ertz. We played against him. So I saw Zach every day. I saw how he competed and I saw how he reacted when a call went against him. I saw how he carried himself in the game. You get a better understanding of the total player."

Kelly also brought on several former college coaches when he assembled his staff last offseason.

"I can defer to guys in the SEC with [offensive line coach] Jeff Stoutland because he came from Alabama and played against him," Kelly added. "He may know something about him. I know he weighed in on Bennie Logan because he had to coach against Bennie Logan. So it was firsthand knowledge. What was it like when you were game-planning at Alabama and you were going to play against someone like that? So I just think it is helpful to us from that standpoint. But it's not the whole narrative is that we're going to take the guys we know just because we know them."

As we mentioned yesterday, part of the Eagles' draft philosophy seems to be based on limiting the variables and projections. They look at raw measurables. They look at talent/production. And they look at fit: both in the scheme and in the locker room.

There's no way to quantify whether Kelly's previous knowledge will really benefit the Eagles as they add new players, but clearly the goal is to use every ounce of information at their disposal before making their choices.

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WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Paul Domowitch of the Daily Newssays the Eagles might not see immediate contributions form their rookie class:

In 2012, the Eagles' nine draft picks that year started a total of 47 games. Five of those nine played 450 snaps or more as rookies. Last year, the Eagles' eight picks started 33 games, with four of them playing 450 or more snaps.

Unless there are a lot of injuries, that's not going to happen this season. Right now, there's a good chance that none of the Eagles' seven picks will start a game in 2014. That's right. Zero. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz writes that there are no projects in the Eagles' draft class:

None of the players is undersized. Jarrett and Smith had to get bigger and stronger to be NFL ready.

There are no tweeners. We all thought Keenan Clayton could be a good NFL player…if he could just find a position. That never happened. Versatility is good, but you must have one position where you are a natural fit. Jaylen Watkins is a CB. He can play in the slot or at S, but he’s meant to be a CB. None of the players is from a small school. These guys faced college stars and future NFL players in their college careers.

COMING UP

There are still plenty of draft angles to cover.

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  • Royal blue star

    I love how they compare chip Kelly to jimmy Johnson, like every college that comes to the NFL is like jimmy Johnson….. The difference is that jimmy Johnson picked starters in the fifth round, chip don’t draft starters…… Jimmy wanted tough players, chip want players that play nice in the locker room…. Jimmy won in every level he has a lot of rings, chip don’t even have a wedding ring… Other than that yep they exactly the same…..

    • NickS1

      Easy to draft starters in the 5th round when the roster you had was full of 7th round talent. How mad were you the Cowgirls didn’t draft Manziel?

      • Royal blue star

        How mad was you wen you didn’t draft a starter this last draft…. But hey at least this time you drafted special teams so hopefully you wouldn’t give a big return with a 15 yd penalty that cost you your playoff game…. HOW ABOUT THEM special teams?!

        • Will

          Who is your Back up QB… Romo is toast….stick a fork in em….I enjoy watching the cowgirls lose….

          • Royal blue star

            Who is your back up qbs? Butt fumble and his assistant y don’t ya sign matt lienart so ya can corner the market on USC failures

          • Will

            Not to mention your Defense is a joke and your team is in cap hell…lol…millions to a QB with a bad back…lol…more millions to a mlb with a screwed up neck…lol…

          • Royal blue star

            And your def is any better… Ya had the worst passing defin the league…. Seriously ya eagles fans are dumb…..

          • Will

            With 11 games holding opponents to under 21 points the Defense will be much improved this year…

          • Royal blue star

            Ya eagles fans are retarded, ya held non playoff teams to under 21 points… Play against good competition and then talk about your lack luster def… I feel for ya, how does it feel to never win the big one….

          • Will

            How does it feel to miss the play offs two years in a row with losses to the Eagles…lol…

          • oreofestar

            Will…..just forget him Cowboys fans are retarded hah!

          • Will

            I love it they are a whipping post and one of those non play off teams he mentioned…lol…

          • Royal blue star

            Hey buddy bet us we were the last team to win their last playoff game…. Dumb a_s_s

          • oreofestar

            only took ya 15 years

          • Royal blue star

            It’s taking ya 60 years to win a chip

          • NickS1

            It actually wasn’t the worst pass defense in the league. That happened to be the Cowboys.

        • NickS1

          I’m glad you think you know our team and how our draft is going to work out for us. You should be concerned about trying to make the playoffs and keeping Romo upright, though.

          • Richard Colton

            You guys keep feeding this moron. He hasn’t made a single point yet.

          • Andy124

            It’s just the intern driving up page hits.

          • NickS1

            PhillyMag moderator deleting Tim & Sheil’s intern’s work? Priceless.

          • Andy124

            He got a little carried away. Lacked subtlety. Maybe a passive agressive protest of the distasteful assignment.

          • NickS1

            And now he’s deleted. Just like a Boykin pick to seal the game.

        • Philip Soloninka

          I had fun sitting in the Jerrah-Dome and watching Boykin pick off Orton, killing the Cowgirls season and preventing them from yet another post season.

    • Tom W

      Lane, Logan, Wolfe all started at some pt last year. Ertz was basically a starter by yr end. Wolfe was a fifth. Thanks for playing.

      • Royal blue star

        How many starters u drafted this year… And seriously earl Wolfe, you ever heard about Darren Woodson? And Benny Logan didn’t I see him get run over a bunch of times against the saints…. Yep ur starters are great!!

        • Tom W

          Well dope Marcus Jordan huff will all be starters at olb, wr, and returner in next two yrs …. They just got drafted dope. Same w lane ertz Logan and Wolfe. Krueger and hart could be future starters or atleast solid rotation 5 techs. Watkins and Reynolds will make team and Watkins is a future starter and Reynolds could be. Your looking back at ten yr careers of Woodson and making fun of our rookies when nothing has happened?? In all regards, last years draft was very good and w little risk taken in this years draft we have atleast three good starters for five yrs. we aren’t drafting for 2014 we draft for next three yrs.

          • Royal blue stars

            Your projecting as a fan…. Meanwhile JJ done it… Earl Wolfe will NEVER be Darren Woodson, Jordan will never be Michael Irvin, lane Johnson will never be Larry Allen … It’s ok if you draft starters we drafted hall of famers

          • Peter Patrick

            Just let us know when you go better than 8-8 and DONT choke at the end of the season. Cowboys are at the bottom of the barrel. Your cupboards are empty, your quarterback is on his last spinal disk, and your defense is non existent. Good luck this year, you’ll sure as hell need it

          • Will

            Sooooooo True!

          • Royal blue star

            We got chips and rings the only chip ya got don’t even come with a wedding ring… Sooooo True!

          • Malcolm Jones

            you blew the dust off of that history book… this is the “what have you done for me lately” league. Them history books dont help you this season.

          • oreofestar

            Can’t blame him in fairness if the Jaguars have been a more successful franchise than me in the last 18 years I would pull out that history book too

          • Royal blue star

            Hey buddy this started caus this article compared chip-less Kelly to jimmy Johnson… So ya “dusted off that history book” I’m just reading the pages

          • Malcolm Jones

            The article compares the amount of knowledge he had access to and compares it to JJ having 5 years of knowledge as far as college personnel, I dont see it saying Chip is the next JJ. Let it play out and if he does nothing… I give you personal invite to troll us.

          • Royal blue star

            There has been a lot of college coaches that came into the NFL but only ya philly fans compare their coach to JJ … THey did not do that for Jim harbaugh, Greg shiano, Doug marone so win a chip first

          • Malcolm Jones

            Harbaugh was here(philly) before Stanford..so it was not a hard transition. Shiano is at home and Marone is still in progress.

          • dallas star

            that was john harbaugh the coach for the ravens not 49 era… stoopid

      • Royal blue star

        We’ll I guess that’s why ya never won a Super Bowl,when you have earl Wolfe as your starter, we had Darren Woodson… And Bennie Logan got ran over a bunch of times against the saints… So I guess starters on ur team won’t even make the bench on jimmy Johnson’s team…… And I’ll take Larry Allen over lane johnson any day

    • EagleDuck

      Good morning hateful troll! Don’t drown in the shower, should you decide to take one.

    • GiveMeABreak

      It is too early to identify similarities between CK and JJ but I would remind you that your genius owner ran him off and now your team is best known for a stadium where you can get a lap dance from a cheerleader, a team that folds like a tent every year, and an owner who has had so much plastic surgery that his face looks rubber (perhaps to match his brain?).

      • Royal blue star

        What does anything you say has to do with this article comparing JJ to CK… Seriously I understand why all the NFL hate ya fans… Ya make no sense…..

        • Jeff Asay

          Only comparison made to JJ is the supposed advantage Chip has by using first-hand knowledge of the players coming out. It would be foolish to say Chip is the next coming of JJ after two drafts and one season. You read what you want into the article, but clearly comprehension is not taught in the Texas school system.

          • Royal blue star

            We’ll there were a lot of college head coaches that came into the NFL but it’s only ya philly people that compare JJ to their college head coach… Was the same comparison made with Jim harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Doug marine, or Greg shiano… NO!… But ya filly fans wanna promote chip Kelly and put him in the same sentence as JJ…. Win a CHIP first…. Lol… See what I did there

          • oreofestar

            man you must be really bored….

          • anon

            Cowboys blogs are just so depressing at this point – he’s gotta troll blogs of winning teams.

          • Jeff Asay

            Maybe cause Philly fans can acknowledge the greatness that was Jimmy. That Walker trade didn’t hurt either when it came to loading up. Wonder how JJ would’ve done with just a straight up draft.

          • Royal blue star

            Yes ya should worship at the altar of JJ but don’t use his name in vain… And yes we did load up cause of that trade BUT wat he did was get the picks right that means no 3rd stretches in the first round…..

          • Joe Thomas

            You can say what you want about comparing JJ and Chip, when all they were comparing was draft strategies, but fact is, youre the one trolling an eagles site, coming up with pathetic arguements. Get used to it tho, youre trolling the only relevant team in the NFC east. Finally a dallas fan makes the right choice. To bad your heart is weak, and you could never fit in here

  • NickS1

    Did anyone ever read that Gosselin article when I posted it back in February? That was a great article about the end of the early 90s Cowboys, all because of Jerrah. It was a great, and fairly quick, read.

    I appreciate the philosophy of limiting the variables, especially where the higher picks are concerned. However, let’s say a guy like Khalil Mack fell, or even better, for some reason we had the #5 pick: Do you not take Mack because he played at a small school and you’re therefore doing more projecting? I guess the better question is, where is the line when it comes to drafting a small(er) school guy vs. a guy from a top 5-6 conference?

    • Tom W

      Ask Andy Reid. Exceptions to every rule yes but w a top pick it’s risky bc they haven’t played against the best. Later in draft less risk

      • NickS1

        I get that. So you’re saying they wouldn’t have taken Mack #5 overall?

    • anon

      Think it’s a sliding scale — just like taking a 4-3 guy you have to project them into the system, i’m guessing talent outweighs that but it’s something they consider. They only took guys from big conferences b/c they are used to top flight competition — aka less projecting how they will do.

    • Andy124

      Yeah, obviously it’s more of a guide than a rule.

      • NickS1

        I hope so.

    • travis papa

      Mack had outstanding gms against big schools like Ohio state so the analogy fails. It’s a guide not that’s not iron clad. They looked at a bunch of small school prospects

    • Maggie

      Deacon Jones went to Mississippi Valley State. Joe Greene went to North Texas State. There shouldn’t be a closed-mindset when looking at prospects. Not even when looking at the opponents.

  • Tom W

    My draft thoughts:

    1) not trading up — I’m thrilled we didn’t trade up w a third for haha or cooks. We needed to remake the roster w fits and studs and get ridda the bandaids. Needed more picks.

    2) trading down to 26. Amazing deal per chart. Wish we did it twice but smith may have been gone per skins report or cowboyz or chargers

    3) Marcus smith at 26 — completely and totally like him there looking back. Edge guys we wanted would’ve been gone in rd2 even if we traded up and Trent Murphy isn’t Marcus smith. My buddy cried for lee or Dennard without the trade, but he is an idiot and I doubt wr had a first rd grade on Dennard. Chip was looking at Evans, odb, Mosley, haha, cooks, and Barr I believe. I think Marcus smith will be just as good as Barr and Mosley and haha long term and better than cooks. Huge need upside guy safe guy smart guy. 10-12 sack guy and a versatile play maker and coverage help. Helps d and Barwin cause you won’t know who is coming.

    2) Jordan Matthews trade up — wasn’t thrilled bc so many wrs but we draft players not positions. Not fantasy football. Matthews is going to be Marques Colston w more speed mark my words. Big slot. Uber competitive like jerry rice. Can’t teach that or intelligence. Drive. Will to be great. This kids play and mismatches he creates in slot and run game will seriously make us a better offense than w djax. Sky’s the limit. More later

    • oreofestar

      If Matthews ends up being a slighter faster/better version of Colston we did a decent job

      • Will

        Jordan Matthews may have been our best pick in the draft for us….sky’s the limit for this kid…

        • oreofestar

          yeah I think simply because of work ethic he has a high floor but he can legit be D. Thomas in a couple seasons he has that potential but if he Colston in his prime that is not bad for a 2nd rounder

      • Tom W

        Decent? Guy is a ten yr starter like four probowlz. Way more than decent

        • oreofestar

          yeah I know I did not actually mean it like that…but I can’t explain I got you though

    • myeaglescantwin

      we grabbed the best OLB prospect with the size and versatility that Chip stresses.

      furthermore, philly fans should be pumped that we drafted an LB in rd-1.
      a 6’4 250lb LB at that.

      • Richard Colton

        yeah. that’s probably true. Chip & Howie keep telling us how important size and versatility are, and yet we keep being surprised about who they take.

        Personally – I thought Dee Ford and Attaouchu were better pass rushing prospects. KVN better at dropping into coverage as an OLB. But the best COMBINATION of the three skill-sets: drop back, edge rush, run stop was Marcus Smith.

        When we start the 2015 draft conversation (pick number 32 plus an extra 3rd rounder courtesy of all-pro Steve Johnson) we need to factor in the changes in strategy. Versatility and measurables count even more than we thought.

        • myeaglescantwin

          yes. you are damn right Richie! & good morning,

          I just wish Andy realized that when he was drafting the undersized high motor types. Dee Ford being a prime example.
          When you analyze pass rushers, the arm length is key because it allows them to shed blocks easier. With 34” arms, OL will be damn near 3ft away from Smith. Benny Logan, undersized as far as NT are seen, but his kept separation with his long arms. if all these measurables line up with the tape, you have a solid player.

          IMO, we got the top OLB we could. Moving into the top 10 for Barr would be unadvised. The only other option I saw was Attoacho, but apparently they didn’t rank him on the level of Smith.

          • JAMIN67

            I don’t think Attaouchu is on the same level of Smith. There’s a couple of games where he was pretty well handled or was mostly a non-factor. Pretty inconsistent overall, IMO.

          • Anebriated

            This, and by taking him at the end of the first round we now hold his fifth year option at a position that gets expensive quickly if he sees a little success.

          • Richard Colton

            excellent point

          • Anebriated

            Its a major factor going into the new CBA that really hasn’t been mentioned anywhere yet. There is always a chance the pick doesn’t work out but if it does we will all appreciate having the extra year at a reasonable number. An interesting study is looking at the fifth year options that were picked up this offseason. All but a few top 20 draft picks were extended(ugh, not the fireman…) after that it drops off significantly. Then again the top 15-20 picks are generally your polished, pro ready players. the 20-40 selections are generally picked based on upside but need a little work.

        • A Roy

          Just to take the Negadelphian POV, if Steve Johnson stinks up the field, we get a 4th…and considering all the Jrs that came out early this season, that’s really a 5th. And since he’s on the 49ers, that 5th will almost be a 6th.

          • cliff henny

            lol, extrapolate out couple more sentences, eagles will be sending Bills ’15s 1st.
            .
            i dont get why everyone is so up SFs GMs Balke’s backside for his draft. got couple more redshirt guys, so far that hasnt worked out, Hyde is either a waste or Lattimore last yr was a waste, ward was a reach. was a solid draft just do to volume, but dont see it as team altering league balance of power shifting haul.

          • myeaglescantwin

            what do you mean by ” 15′s 1st” how? and why?, GO!!

          • Richard Colton

            Same. They had a really deep team – including a couple of medical redshirts from last year. They drafted what, 11 or 12 guys? Really don’t see why they weren’t more aggressive about moving up.

          • mtn_green

            Won’t the juniors have the same incentive to come out early every year? It is just you won’t of the combination of the talented seniors and the juniors.

            My understanding is that the new CBA added a year to the rookie contract and now good players want to enter nfl earlier so they can get their payday, 2nd contract earlier, before injury while 24-25 instead of 26-27.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Ahh, I see you’ve come around grasshopper. What have I been saying? Smith is the most complete OLB in draft not named Mack. Does everything well and has natural talent & instincts for the position. Will contribute & transition quickly. Depending on how Chip values player’s legacy, could supplant Cole before seasons end.

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah. Just worried he doesn’t do anything great. I get the versatility thing, I do. But I don’t want two Connor Barwins. I want a swiss-army-knife at LOLB and an edge terror at ROLB. If He’s a B+ in all three areas, have we adequately solved our #1 problem – pass rush?

          • mtn_green

            Hoping another year as OLB and some training will improve his pass rush. The versatility will allow for more sacks from other players too.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            “Just worried he doesn’t do anything great.”……yet

            I could say the same about any of the OLB prospects, but bear in mind Smith has only been doing the defensive thing what, 2 years? Was LJ a “great” OT before last year’s draft?
            I really think he’s most pro-ready with respect to coverage, setting the edge is technique and mentality (1 year with Azz), and the pash rush skills will emerge. Few if any prospects every year have varied/complete skillsets re: pass rush coming out of school

          • admin

            ha ha , true

      • admin

        yes

        • myeaglescantwin

          dynamite drop in, Monty!! That broadcasting school is really paying off !

    • Hanibal Luis

      #1 is so true. AR preached competition, but the last few years he didn’t draft the horses for it. At least on paper this team is starting to look like players are really going to start jockeying for spots. And that’s why you don’t draft lazy, immature players. People were screaming for Nix, but no no, stay away, stay the heck away. Give me a hungry roster.

  • oreofestar

    After I heard that Orakpo comparison to Smith I can not stop thinking about it a complete linebacker who can bet you 10-12 sacks, be versatile and be a fringe pro bowler consistently

    • Royal blue star

      Bit of a reach for a projected 3rd rounder….

      • oreofestar

        except 1. media projections really do not matter at all when decided where they get drafted or how they do in the NFL 2. He was not a 3rd rounder everyone acknowledged he was a top 40 pick or even higher

      • JosephR2225

        Seems like somebody isn’t getting enough attention….

      • Will

        How does Dallas lose Ware and Hatcher?

      • Peter Patrick

        Where was bruce irvin projected? How has he done in the league? What about Richard Sherman, and the many other players drafted in later rounds? The draft is about picking players. Projections don’t mean ANYTHING when it comes down to it. Leaf was projected to be the top quarterback. So was Jamarcus Russell. How did they turn out? Go back to Texas- your logic is flawed.

      • Adam G

        So was Travis Frederick…

        • oreofestar

          and he turned out okay

      • Tom W

        Jeremiah had him as day one pick un like that rd 3 center your dope senile owner took last yr when his board said to take sharif Floyd. Your franchise is a joke of the nfl. And no way out bc of senile jerruh running the cap into hell.

      • IAteLunchToday

        Good morning baby blue. I’m actually a little disappointed. I would have thought that you of all people would appreciate a little reaching around, especially since Jerry Jones has just been having his way with you for all these years.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          And apparently with Garrett, Romo & Witten.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Is this a proud Dallas fan on our board? Hey good to have you Royal

        • Malcolm Jones

          and Lawrence in the 2nd round is def Demarcus ware day one right. Yall paid a 3rd round to move up and we paid a 4th to do the same.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Hey his names demarcus, I can see where Jerry was going

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He’s just mad that we grabbed Smith & they got Lawrence.

          • cliff henny

            Lawrence has chip kelly bust definition all over him. bet kelly rather play with 10, hoosier’s style, than spend 1 second with that guy.

    • Will

      Very curious what Smith can do at the NFL level…better off drafting a bit early than missing out all together…

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Where’d you hear that comparison?

  • Jeff Asay

    The drafting from major conferences premise is flawed when your #1 is from Louisville. Your #2 pick (though I love the pick) could blow up. Mathews was the best player on a traditionally weak team. Ever see stars from weak teams see their production dip when added to a better line-up in basketball? Both choices have slightly higher risk factors due to where they went to school. Just think this premise of major conferences/schools is flawed when top two are football powerhouses Louisville and Vanderbilt.

    • oreofestar

      Thing with Matthews is he played the best competition in CF, everyone knew he was getting the ball, everyone was watching him and he still destroyed them

      • Jerry Pomroy

        And he leads that elite conference as the all time leader. That doesn’t just happen for no good reason against said competition. I don’t care how much you feed them the ball. The fact that almost half his receptions came on screens means he had to work for all those extra yards too.

  • oreofestar

    Tom W compared Matthews to Colston I have not been able to find a better one so I am stealing it…

    • Ian Farley

      it you watch his film from vandy, he doesn’t play like colston. colston is a big smooth guy with no top end speed.

      matthews runs angry and hard. very tough after the catch. he does an OK job getting off on man coverage but that can be improved. but his burst is there and he certainly has the size.

      they will need him in the slot initially until he can run a better tree from the outside and get off the line in press man. but as a slot he will rarely get covered by a outside corner, leading to alot of mismatches inside. his size will be his greatest attribute there as well.

      expect him to have a serious contribution this season. he an ertz are the future of the offense. I can see ertz netting 10 TDs this year.

      • cliff henny

        was watching PE.com, cosell breaking down JM2 and Huff. the one with crazy burst is Huff. no wonder he had so many stand alone TDs. i thought they were blown coverages from watching Oregon live. but bet he just left cbs in the dust.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Hahaha, you’re making my point about how Matthews is a long strider and is deceptively fast compared to smaller legged players. But with long striders it takes a split second longer to get up to speed than smaller guys because they’re taking an extra step or two in between. I’d also bet that Matthews 10yd splits would show faster after the first 10.

          I like Huff’s ability to get separation though. Not taking anything away from him. I love that kid down the middle between the seams. Looks like he could be a weapon from inside the 40.

          • cliff henny

            think Matthews is faster than Huff, but Huff on double moves and closing cushion on dbs then bursting was incredible. also what i liked is 2 totally different WRs. between JM, JM2, Coop and Huff, you better have 4 different skillset cbs. and crazy part is, if he comes back healthy (HUGE if) the most athletic guy in that batch is Benn. spider chart that crazy sob, it’s impressive. add Ertz and Sproles to the mix, Eagles will be matchup nightmare.

        • Ian Farley

          huff has great ability and desire. i think he is a kick returner from the get go.

  • G_WallyHunter

    I guess lawlor didn’t proofread that part of the article eh? How do you screw up is/are that many times?

    • cliff henny

      fun game, i counted 3? 1. is undersized 2. are natural fit 3. is from small schools.

    • leorautins

      Definitely sounds goofy, but I see “none” treated as a singular pronoun quite often. Lawlor’s sentence could be re-read as “Not one of the players is undersized,” which would be grammatically correct (I think).

      • Maggie

        NBA fan joins the ranks.

      • G_WallyHunter

        True that, it would be correct, but is he really intending that? Doubt it, but it is technically correct yes looking at it that way, nice scope

  • Andy124

    Boom goes the ban stick.

    • cliff henny

      feel for fans like him. kind of want to point to a calender, let them know it’s may of 2013. funny part is, bet he’s 25-30 yrs old, putting him at 5 to at best 10-12 yrs old during that run.

      • knighn

        May of 2014, Cliff. Cut back on that early morning booze!

        • Jerry Pomroy

          He’s just living in the past. Makes him feel younger… lol.

          • cliff henny

            i drape t-shirts over the mirrrors too.

          • knighn

            To his credit: he’s not living two decades in the past!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He just started stopping the clock last year apparently, so he’s got some catching up to do… lol.

        • cliff henny

          ha, am horrible with dates. sad part is i had to look up the may part

          • knighn

            Right month? Right Decade?
            You pass the test: you are clearly not a Dallas Cowboys fan.

          • cliff henny

            if a sniper got on a clock tower and started picking off cowboys’ fans in Jerry’s World, the defendent would want me on that jury. i’d be like ‘the guy was wearing an Emmitt Smith jersey?’ think he was asking for it’.
            .
            actually that not fair, people living in Southwest USA arent the annoying fans. it’s the ones raised in northeast, never been west of Harrisburg, and are only fans because either liked the star as a kid or do it just to annoy local fans. should have an open season on them like deer

          • knighn

            That’s a bit mean to the deer, isn’t it?
            Not hunting them – that’s fine, but comparing them to Cowboys fans?! You’re about to get PETA on your ass!

          • Maggie

            There are Dallas fans here on the West Coast of Canada who are 20 tears old! Brainwashed by CBS and ESPN! Gag!

          • A Roy

            I’m not so sure. Dallas has been living in the past for quite a while now. Back when they were a contender. Two decades ago.

    • knighn

      Royal Blue goes back to royally blowing.

  • Joe Thomas

    Everyone should take a moment to appreciate what we have in Philly. Royal Blue Star is giving us an example of how pathetic fans can be when approaching 20 years of irrelevance. We could be like most Cowboy fans riding a bandwagon to no where. When our best arguement takes us back to a time before the internet, may we have the sense to just not spew nonsense, and jealousy. Thank you Eagles brass for not putting us through that.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Isn’t it funny how the staple kick in the groin is we haven’t won a SB? I can see that being relevant to Gint (not a misspell, I call them Gints) fans. But the majority of Cowboy & Deadskin fans that witnessed an SB win for their team are now in adult diapers & wandering halls of nursing homes.

      • cliff henny

        if it hasnt happened in last 5 yrs, doesnt count. Phils worlsseries has already worn off. ruin tomorrow isnt helping that much, cause i dont see them getting back any time soon.

        • Joe Thomas

          I for one will be ecstatic to see the Eagles first super bowl, as opposed to my grandparents telling me about the glory days.

      • anon

        would you rather have had sex once 20years ago or be a 40yo version. I’d rather have loved and lost.

        • knighn

          Would you rather have had sex 20 years ago with no chance to ever get any action ever again?
          Or would your rather be a 40 year old virgin who recently got some under-the-shirt action and is about to get laid a lot over the next few years?
          The past is over-rated. The best is yet to come.

          • Richard Colton

            I can’t stop laughing at that line

          • knighn

            Double entendres. We couldn’t have “That’s what she said” jokes without them.

          • Maggie

            I don’t know. Didn’t someone say the best way to foretell the future is to look at the past? Oh, it was Charlie Casserly. Never mind.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            he got to 2nd base!!

          • knighn

            (Or the playoffs) We really got mixed up on those metaphors. For Anon, winning the Super Bowl was scoring… so I took it from there.
            No response from Anon, yet.
            The point sticks: I’d rather watch good football now than be hung up on something that happened 20 years ago.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I just got vision of the masturbation scene from the 40yr old virgin.

          Hello! Is it me you’re looking for? I can see it in your eyes. I can see it in your smile. You’re all I ever wanted. My arms are open wide. Cause you know just what to say. And you know just what to do…

          • Maggie

            Somehow I never liked Lionel Richie. ;~)

  • Andy124

    Yeah, Chip’s familiarity with the college players could serve as an advantage in the form of better intel, or a disadvantage in the form of breeding bias. There’s been a lot of fear that the latter would outweigh the former, including from me.

    But what about Chip makes any of us think that he’d actually allow that to happen? That’s such and anti-Chip thing that when I really think about it, well, I’m going to have to see a whole lot of evidence on the field before I worry about that again.

  • oreofestar
    • Andy124

      For Madden cover? Screw that, vote for Romo. Madden curse lives!

      • oreofestar

        tell that to Calvin…only other NFC East player in voting is Morris

      • JosephR2225

        If you’re going to use the Madden cover as a weapon, don’t waste it on Romo. Vote for Rodgers or Russell Wilson or somebody that is actually good enough to be a threat.

        • NickS1

          I voted for Sherman, since we play him. Wilson and Rodgers weren’t options. Voted for Lacy, too, despite him being my keeper in fantasy. If that’s not dedication, don’t know what is.

        • cliff henny

          Romo is toast. no way will he come back with same mobility, and escapability that drove everyone nuts. dont care how good his line is, he’s not great from in the pocket, so that back is going to get hit, and hit often.

          • NickS1

            Hopefully by Maaaaaarcus

          • cliff henny

            on the 50 at Jerry’s glory hole. Monday or Sunday night so there’s 800 camera angles like Theisman’s hit. over and over, high-def, zooming in on his face and panning the crowd in silence.

          • Richard Colton

            with Romo’s leg bent backwards and that look on Jerry’s face that says “is it too late to take Johnny Football?”

          • cliff henny

            then for good measure, the ambulance cart comes out, driver is all distracted, and runs over his other leg

          • mtn_green

            As his son takes of his sweatshirt.

          • A Roy

            My favorite mental images of Romo are him chuckin and duckin as the pocket collapses. Can you spell INT?

          • cliff henny

            spell INT,yes…E-L-I

          • knighn

            Over under on Eli INTs this year?
            And who throws more? Eli or Romo?
            I’m going with Eli, only because I don’t expect Romo to finish the season.

          • A Roy

            Concur. Eli on total INTs. Romo on INTs/game.

        • oreofestar

          Russ is average I am using that cover on the sEAHAWKS D

        • Andy124

          Yeah, but I don’t hate them.

        • Maggie

          It’s one thing to hate the team, but don’t be ridiculous. Next you’ll be saying that Ware wasn’t much of a pass rusher! Romo has another couple of years of being a threat, unless his back gives out completely.

    • NickS1

      Voted against both Eagles and voted for everyone we face. In the battle of Luck/Morris, I voted Morris, since we play him twice.

      • oreofestar

        Madden curse doesn’t exist hah!

    • Malcolm Jones

      do you hate them?

      • oreofestar

        lol

  • Hanibal Luis

    Looks like I’m late to the party and missed the fun.

    Anywho, the JJ and CK comparisons is valid to extent but too early. Let’s see the roster in the next 2-3 years and hopefully win a couple of big ones and then we can revisit this. Hate the Blue Stars ;) , but credit to JJ and what he did.

  • Dreday410

    Everyone that Chip Drafted this year can play more then one position on there side of the ball so he really got more from draft then most people really are looking at
    D. Smith – LB – DL
    J Matthews = Slot – Outside
    J Huff – Backfield – WR Slot – PR/KR
    J Wakins – CB/S
    T Hart – DT/DE
    E Reynolds – S/CB
    B Allen – DT/DE
    That will give you a lot of rotation with starters

    • Richard Colton

      Marcus Smith can’t play DE in a 3-4
      Hart can only play DE
      Allen can play NT – don’t see him gong us much at DE, and we don’t play DT
      Reynolds is a S – see him mostly at SS but FS/SS is pretty interchangeable these days

      I’m being picky – your point about versatility is well made. We have a lot of big/fast athletes who can do a lot of things.

      • mtn_green

        If you watch tape Marcus plays DT at times in a situational four man front. Eagles do that too, and he might slide inside or stay on end.

      • Anebriated

        Smith wont play DE in the 3-4 but when we go to 4 down sets you will see him line up as an end. Hart can move inside to DT in 4 down.

        • Richard Colton

          you mean like a stand up Leo or Predator? I’m hoping we see some of that – even man fronts.

          • Anebriated

            Im hoping to see him move all over. If we go 4 down put Cole and Graham at the ends and have Smith as a LB who could rush or drop into a zone with Barwin or Kendricks out there with him(might be risky to have Smith and Kendricks out there together at first). Maybe Allen and Logan(or Hart) with their hands in the dirt and then a bunch of stand up rovers. There is a lot of flexibility which is what Kelly and Davis wanted.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Anyone seen any real footage of Huff rushing the ball? Just curious if he’d be a legit option, dual threat.

    • mtn_green

      Yes go to draftbreakdown.com there are one or two. Not much different or more than DeSean would get, reverses etc.
      He also is good at getting pitches in the option.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        The reason I ask is because I have always believed that Kelly wanted DeSean to be “that” type of player & not just a deep burner. Someone that could be moved into the backfield and be considered an actual threat to get the ball in an actual rushing attempt. So I’m curious if Sproles is that guy s to a degree short term & Huff is the long term.

        • mtn_green

          In short he is not Sproles or DAT, more like a strong fast receiver. Block or run on bubble screens, run a reverse or two, he can’t break tackles through the Dline.

          • Jamie

            You’re right about that. He’s no Eric Dickerson punching his own holes through the line.
            But wait’ll you see him take a corner or free safety out of the play when Shady’s comin’ ’round the corner behind him.
            That was a weekly occurrence for Huff at Oregon. Huff has the ability to make every play more productive, whether he’s got the rock or not.
            Huff “bought in” to CK’s system 4 years ago, and has been making it work ever since.

          • mtn_green

            Agreed, he will look really good taking out a safety or db to spring shady through the secondary.

  • Amar

    I may have a little catching up to do, but why is everyone(analysts) so high on Hart ? Haven’t heard of him much.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      He’s a perfect scheme fit. May have a little work to do to adjust to NFL, but he’s probably close to already being a Thornton. 2 gapping 3-4 DEs are usually made, not drafted prepackaged.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Oh and he also needs to learn our defensive signal play cards used on the sidelines. He may not know who the Phillie Phanatic or Rocky are or mean… lol

  • admin

    good picks