Eagles Select Oregon WR Josh Huff

NCAA Football: UCLA at Oregon

Chip Kelly finally drafted an Oregon player.

With the 86th pick in the third round, the Eagles selected wide receiver Josh Huff. The 5-11, 206-pounder caught 62 balls for 1,140 yards and 12 touchdowns last season. He ran a 4.51 at the combine. Here’s what his measurables look like:




Nothing really jumps off the page, but Huff was a productive receiver. He can line up outside or in the slot. And Huff was a big-play threat, averaging 18.4 yards per reception. He was also a contributor on special teams.

"He’s got a nasty presence to himself," Kelly said. "He’s not risk-averse to contact. He’s gonna get after people. He’s a physical player in the run game."

Huff had a hunch that he might end up with his former coach.

"He said he was gonna draft me, and he kept his word," he said.

During Oregon's Pro Day, Eagles wide receivers coach Bob Bicknell apparently let the Ducks' offensive coordinator know that a reunion was likely. So when the phone rang Friday night, Huff was ecstatic.

"When that 2-1-5 popped up on my phone, I immediately started to cry," he said.

Back in January, we caught up with Huff at the Senior Bowl. Asked for his favorite memory of Kelly, Huff recalled a game against Stanford his sophomore year.

"It was halftime and he came in... it was a close battle and he came in and I’ve never seen him so fired up," Huff said. "He came in, flipped the table over, he was cussing a little bit. It fired the whole team up. Eventually we went out there in the second half and did what we had to do, made plays and came out with a victory."

Huff was keeping an eye on the Eagles in the fall.

"The reason that he left was he wanted to take on the challenge because people thought that his offense wouldn’t work in the NFL," Huff said. "And look what it did his first year. It’s only gonna continue to get better as players get more comfortable in the offense. I can’t wait to see what next year has in store for the Eagles."

Huff also talked about seeing Kelly cry when the coach told the team he was leaving.

The Eagles have added Huff and Jordan Matthews to a group of receivers that includes Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper.

Meanwhile, they traded the 83rd pick to the Texans for a fourth-rounder (101) and a fifth-rounder (141). Houston took Notre Dame defensive tackle Louis Nix with the pick. The 101st pick is the first one on Day 3 Saturday.

As of right now, the Eagles have four remaining picks: 101 (4th), 141 (5th), 162 (5th), 237 (7th).

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  • quentin smith

    Training camp, whose coming with?

  • mtn_green

    Kick returner? Seems Huff and Matthews have intangibles, smart, hardworkers.

  • NickS1

    I don’t hate the pick as much as I did 20 minutes ago, but still not thrilled. The receiver group improved, just not as much as I would have liked. And we improved the pass rush. Not a horrible draft. Probably a B- right now.

    • Richard Colton

      i hate it more. press conference – big special teams contributer? what?

      • anon

        hahaha in rd 3? GTFOH, deep draft? He took a guy he liked, just like he took MB, and he took Sanchize and he took Maehl, etc.

        • Richard Colton

          Mark 1 and Mark 2 cost us nothing. Huff a 3rd round pick. I can’t believe we took Huff with Nix, Desir, Jones all there

          • Alistair Middlemiss

            Nix was never ever on the Eagles board. not in the 7th or UDFA list. He is a lazy player and Chip will not have any of those on his roster. Every pick he has made are on players who are 100% committed to football. Nix is obviously not.

            Desir and Jones are still on the board so they would have been ‘reaches’.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            ^ this

        • Adam

          Just like he broke records and just like he blew the top off the league. Chip is smarter than you. Don’t forget that.

      • NickS1

        Where does everyone keep seeing the pressers after picks?

        • Token

          philadelphiaeagles.com

          They actually put together a nice draft broadcast

          • NickS1

            Okay, thanks. I actually got to this last night but never saw a presser. Just some guys talking non-stop. And I was already watching ESPN for coverage, so I had enough of that.

          • Token

            Chip gets up and talks about each pick. At least so far, dunno if they will do that for the later round picks.

  • marley66

    Love all 3 picks. Kelly clearly means what he says when he talks about high character players who buy into his system. All 3 picks graduated, and are good team guys. Can’t wait for tomorrow. Defense day!

    • Philly0312

      Hope it is. I disliked d in 3rd round…like d value rest of way for the most part

    • Richard Colton

      you loved all three? You loved Huff in round three? bet you were “inspired” by your high school principal. lame pick. worst of the three. I don’t hate it. but to “love” it? jeez.

      • anon

        seriously wonder if it can get worse tomorrow-good thing is harder to overdraft people in late rounds.

        • Richard Colton

          we’re in a good spot for tomorrow. I’m excited.

      • phillyphanlvnv

        Im pretty sure no one here were fans of the Seahawks and their WR crew in last SB but they sure didnt care.

        • Richard Colton

          sure. there’s a chance Huff becomes an all pro. that will be great. looks like a terrible, self-indulgent pick today though.

          • anon

            hahaha there’s a chance any WR drafted becomes an all pro.

          • Richard Colton

            except Kelvin Benjamin – he was a bust before he shook Goodell’s hand

          • Peteike

            Ha you’re on fire love it

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Wow really? late 3rd rd man….not getting many all pros. If he stays on as productive 3rd or 4th for years plus KR why so mad?

            Kelly wanted specific skill guys, not geagles projects

          • Richard Colton

            because I’m sensing a theme here. I’m just underwhelmed.
            Huff? Ray Diddnger just shrugged his shoulders. I get wanting to pick up extra picks in the top 150.

            Based what they did in rounds 4-7 last year – value pick after value pick, I’m encouraged.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Same, esp. considering the extra pick wizardry and leading off the 4th

          • Richard Colton

            and the 5th! Maybe somebody wants to give up a 2nd next year to take Savage. this was the Mark Barkley pick last year.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    What is the CB from Oregon’s name?

    • asdf

      Terrence Mitchell

  • Wilbert M.

    I am really irked that we could have had Nix and blew it. A big space eater that gets double teamed is what we need in the middle. Nix has first round talent. He was lazy in college but they usually straighten out in the NFL (i.e. Burfict). I think Howie blew it here. Huff?? Really??

    • Adam

      Something must be up with Nix. For him to fall that far, must be some pretty big flags.

    • Hanibal Luis

      Not usually, Burflict is the exception, not the norm. He might mature, he might not but I rather not take the risk. All that said, not sure if Huff was who I would go with there, but hey, I’ll wait and see.

    • Philly0312

      Nice wouldn’t have played, but would be nice to have a backup nt. Heard Logan is up to 320

    • anon

      No one with attitude or commitment issues will be on our team.

    • Reasonableeaglefan

      I wanted Nix there too, but I disagree with the idea that big guys with poor motivation straighten things out in the NFL. Those guys eat their way out of the league. That said, he fell to the 3rd and felt it was worth the risk.

    • Peteike

      Ya agree, these PAC 12 picks esp ou may burn him down the road but whatever. Just not fan of this pick, seems like role player potential too soon. Like other picks. Someone sell me

    • Burberry Manning

      Big space eater wont make it thru our conditioning program not the type of player they’re looking for I think its a homer pick but another big wr who blocks helps the run game plus special teams

    • Glenn

      Totally agree! Was he a little out of shape or lazy? I know he has first round talent. Would be perfect NT in a 3-4. Kelly and his staff would have whipped him into shape with his state of the art conditioning program. A little risk? Not in the third round!

      • Adam

        If the Eagles wanted Nix they had the chance to. Clearly there was something they didn’t like about him, be in character or scheme fit. What’s so tough to understand about it?

        • Glenn

          Nix would have fit the scheme perfectly. Better than Logan. Character? We will see what Nix does in his NFL career.

          • anon

            tx is a good place for him watt can handle it

        • DetmerWonAHeisman

          FWIW, espn commentary (I think Kiper) said this guy completely disappeared in the 2nd half of games because of his poor conditioning and couldn’t even get off his blocks, let alone chase someone down in the backfield after halftime. If that is true, nix never had a chance of being an Eagle, even as an undrafted FA

          • Adam

            Yep. People think man-eaters are the answer at NT, but unless you have a freak like Wilfork or Ngata, they’re all JAG’s.

            Don’t sleep on Logan. I’d say about 1/2 of 3-4 NT’s in the league now are built more like Logan than 350lb gutter pigs.

  • Glenn

    Really not thrilled with this draft. Liked trading out of 22. Would have picked Lee at 28. Liked trading up to 42, but would have picked Attaochu, but I think Marcus Smith would have likely been here too. Louis Nix and Moncrief would have been my third round picks. Think this haul is better than the Eagles haul.

    • Philly0312

      Reports say smith wouldn’t have got past Seattle at 32 actually

      • Glenn

        Ok. Would have been happy with Attaochu at 42.

        • Philly0312

          Eh, I am biased. I thought Smith was the second best olb in the draft but I respect the opinion. I’m happy with the first two picks. Feel like if we wanted huff we could get him with our new 4th rounder. Didn’t live any d player left although nix had depth. Wanted Turner at guard (now gone). Guessing we go Oregon de at pick 101

          • Glenn

            Nix would have been a great pick. Agree with Huff sentiment. Would have been available in the fifth round, but could have been picked in the fourth for safekeeping, if one felt Chippy. Or Ducky.

          • anon

            The worst part is if they didn’t like anyone they could just trade back again, you don’t have to take anyone.

        • phillyphanlvnv

          And you spent how much time exactly scouting the two?

          • Glenn

            About as much time as you. Since both you and I didn’t spend tonight in an NFL war room. I would have been happy with Attaochu as the OLB over Smith. Smith gained steam in the last two weeks. Not sure why. Attaochu is really good and I think will have a good career.

      • Dante Inked UP Lovings

        Funny cuz I had smith mocked going in early second round, or late first round to seahawks as well

    • livingonapear

      Attaochu looks like a high motor guy with a really good inside move. He’s a liability against the run, and he looks stiff in coverage. Both him and Smith went up against Miami, Smith looked better in my opinion.

      Attaochu looks better going up 1 on 1 against tackles, but Smith looks better moving in space, on the run, and he bats down balls like Barwin. He’s a more complete player, though I am concerned about him going one on one with NFL LTs.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Go buy your own team. No one cares what prospects you think should have been drafted. Its not drinking Koolaid to know that Gamble, Howie, Roseman and crew know more about football than you or I

      F#ckin armchair GMs…

      • Glenn

        I have read and respected your opinions on many posts here involving many prospects. That is the purpose of this board. I have no doubt that Gamble and Howie know their football. But, is it possible, that Kelly is having too much power in the war room, especially with regards to where guys are picked? Huff was a reach, when there are other guys more valuable out there available.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          What makes him a reach? Who is more “valuable”, by what measure? What makes him a “chip” pick, not a gamble/howie/scout pick?

          You throw around an incredible number of assumptions. Stop, please

          • Glenn

            When a guy has a 5th or 6th round grade, and he gets picked in the third round, that is a reach. If there are corners and guards out there, that should have been picked sooner, who have second round grades, and would actually provide the team with eventual replacements for aging starters, that is valuable. He is a Chip pick, because he knows the kid on a personal level, and he promised him when he visited him that he would be picked. Why spend 50 grand on a car, that you could buy for 20, and spend the rest on something else you need? These aren’t assumptions.

      • Token

        wow. This is ridiculous. Fans like you are the absolute worst.

        I hope I never see you have a opinion on anything roster related again. Or ill have to bring up your stance on having a opinion.

  • Adam

    Pierre Desir is sitting pretty at pick 101 for us tomorrow. Make it happen!

    • Richard Colton

      seriously.

    • Hanibal Luis

      Now that Andy took Gaines away from me :(

    • MattE

      double cereal

    • Dante Inked UP Lovings

      Chip already said he’s trying to trade out that pick 101 tomarrow..

      • Adam

        Didn’t say trying. Said they were listening.

  • Joe Thomas

    I just hope Chip can hit on atleast two defensive players tomorrow. I like all 3 players but we could also have another defensive player right now. I just remember Chip is calculating next offseason into his plan. Right now he is taking guys he believes can do what he wants, he’s getting “Chip’s guys”.

  • Bird of Prey

    scratching my head on this one, Pierre Desir is just waiting and the birds have the first pick tomorrow. Hope they address the secondary.

    • Richard Colton

      and get Telvin Smith or Jones at 141. that would salvage this draft.

      • Adam

        Salvage? Really?

        • Richard Colton

          1 and 2 look good from where I’m sitting. #3 smells like Curtis Marsh – so when Howie says he wants to hit on 4 in a row, that means getting 3 starters per draft. I see two.

          • Adam

            Who would have drafted there would be a starter? ILB and CB starters are set. It was going to be a depth pick no matter who we went with.

          • Richard Colton

            you could easily have said that about any pick #22 on. Tommy has been saying that for months. I’m looking for guys who will push for starting positions and guys who will be dynamic playmakers down the road. Smith/Matthews – I see it. Huff? ehhh.

          • Adam

            I’m not sure your point now. Do you not like Huff the player or Huff at at 86? He set single season records in yards and TD’s in one of the most prolific offensive programs in the NCAA. I think he can definitely be a dynamic playmaker down the road. Matthews can easily be kicked outside and Huff can become to starting receiver if Maclin doesn’t resign or can’t stay healthy and he could contribute as a returner.

            If we got Desir at 86 and Huff at 101 would it soften the blow at all?

          • Peteike

            Ok thanks for that. I get it Richard, I feel exact same way, love first two not this one at this spot. We shall see I don’t get the enthusiasm as much as the skepticism

          • Richard Colton

            at 86. the reaching is what bothers me. of the first 4 picks last year, only Logan was considered a (slight) reach. I’m fine with Huff if Chip is. I really am.
            here’s the thing – if I had told you a week ago that the Eagles got: Smith, Matthews, Huff – in order, you would have asked me who the first round pick was.

          • Adam

            And of the remaining 1st round picks taken after 28 – Buchannon, Benjamin, Easley, Ward, Roby and Bridgewater – which of them would you 100% know for sure was the 1st round pick, based on the blogs and mocks you’ve read this year? The thing about picking at 28 in the first is it’s not a whole lot different than picking in the 2nd.

          • Richard Colton

            that was the surprise of the 2014 draft – 4 safeties in the first round. speaks to a positional reach more than anything. teams were being conservative with not overdrafting average QBs, but agressively overdrafting Safties.
            Easley was easily the worst pick of the 1st round. How would you like to be Tom Brady today?

          • borntosuffer

            If I remember correctly, Curtis Marsh was a project and relatively new to his position. Not saying this is a great pick – we’ll all eventually find out – but, the guy is good at what he does and has been doing it for quite some time. What were the grades on him, anyway?

          • borntosuffer

            Ok you bastards. Where’s the research I asked for? If I wanted to do it myself, I’d just go over to Phi11y.c0m. Anyway, he’s built like a running back and it looks like he breaks arm tackles. When you put a guy like that in space, as Chip’s offense does, and he breaks a tackle, he should have a lot of room. Hope it works that way.

          • Richard Colton

            and versitile. maby a Sproles jr. I don’t know. 86 still too high.

          • borntosuffer

            Yes, it definitely appears to be a reach based on the consensus. I have two thoughts. Chip appears to have a different philosophy when evaluating players. The other thing is that Chip and Josh already know what to expect. Chip has seen him thrive under his coaching. That takes away a bit of the risk. I know when we hire someone, they can be great in the interview and have an excellent resume. But, you don’t really know what you have until they show up and start working. It shouldn’t be nearly as much of an unknown with football players since scouting is much more thorough. But, there’s still some risk. In this case, Chip has eliminated that risk.

          • Richard Colton

            I see the Oregon connection as a bonus

        • Richard Colton

          but yes. bit of an over-reaction by me.
          how do I explain this to you? Imagine Les Habitains magnified by a maple syrup shortage. multiply by the popularity of Michael J. Fox.

  • Hanibal Luis

    I say they trade 101 too and troll all of us, again :P

  • phillyphanlvnv

    Honestly, you guys are feeling yourselves a little too much. Too much time on the fake draft boards. Eagles got a magnificent haul with their picks, and still have more damage to do tomm.Replaced too immidiate needs with djax and avant gone. Best olb not in the top 10. Quit crying. DB sit will be handled in due time. Obviously not too thrilled with what was out there or they would have drafted them.

    • Richard Colton

      magnificent? come on man

      • phillyphanlvnv

        Dude, cry to yourself. I see what the Eagles were l9oking for when they drafted each player, and each will turn out to be a home run as were the last 2 drafts picks in rds 1-3. Just because you thought lesser of the picks does not make you the expert. Leaders, hard workers, each fitting perfectly into the system. With avant and jackson gone, i am perfectly fine with the picks. More pressing needs than chasing after safety prospects who we havent had much success with anyways.

        • Richard Colton

          A magnificent draft, said only you…ever. Hyperboyle much? I like the #1 pick – consensus is slight reach. I love the #2 pick. #3 pick was an absolute reach. Unless you’re Dave Spadero – the words “magnificent” and “this draft” shouldn’t be used in the same paragraph.

          • Adam

            There are quite a few people who think this is a great draft class. Just like there are quite a few who think it’s terrible. You’re both arguing opinions, so you’re both wrong.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m more right because I’ve staked out a moderate opinion in the center (actually its not more right, just less risky). Huff is the biggest surprise of the picks. Really hard to see how he was the pick there.
            Just out of curiosity – who is it that’s saying this (Smith,Matthews,Huff) is a “great” draft class?

        • GhostMan

          …but thinking highly of the picks DOES make you the expert in your eyes…yeah, makes total sense haha

    • GhostMan

      Howie and Chip have preached incessantly about drafting by their board above all else (as opposed to drafting for need). So, your argument that these picks are great because they fill needs makes no sense. We need to draft great players and then fill in the holes around them, not try to force players into spots because we “need” them.

      • anon

        These were all need picks, that’s why they all feel like reaches.

        • GhostMan

          Totally agree. Jordan Matthews was a need, but I think he’s the only one that could have been their best available where they took him, so I like the pick.

        • Glenn

          Except we didn’t need Huff. We should have picked our top corner or MLB on the board where we picked Huff.

          • anon

            Needed a pac-12, ST player.

          • Glenn

            lol

          • jesse

            Uhm we play 3/4 no MLB but yeah inside backer

      • phillyphanlvnv

        Keep crying to yourselves and talk radia. Sorry your precious mock drafts are in shambles. Eagles had no intrest in drafting the players you saw fit for them to. When HAHA stinks out loud like Mark Barron, you’ll be thanking HR for knowing not to be caught holding the bag

        • anon

          everyone has hits and misses, let’s take 2 steps back, it’s not that serious, hope that rant is a consequence of you drinking.

        • Andy

          Why do you think Ha Ha will stink? Because they didn’t draft him? He was taken the pick before the Eagles. There is no doubt in my mind if he had been there at 22 they would have taken him.

      • quentin smith

        Quick question, can you send a screen shot of their board. I’m sorry your argument that the Eagles board should look like your own personal mental board which is probably a mixture of your favorite bloggers and national media writers is lame. You don’t know what their board looks like. We have an idea about the team needs but they have a firm grasp on this team. It’s their team. For all we know these guys fit the team needs exceptionally well, relax and get ready to personally eyeball them during training camp. Or were you traveling to Pro Day’s as well?

        • GhostMan

          I don’t profess to know their board at all…but I can certainly take an educated guess based on what I see from the highlights/read about the players. Do you really believe that Josh Huff was the top player on their board still available at 86?

          Of course I don’t have a “screen shot”, none of us do, but by using some common sense, I can reason that it is highly unlikely.

          • 76mustang

            Chip said he doesn’t care about the players the Eagles don’t get, but he cares a great deal about the players the Eagles do get. He obviously cared a great deal for these 3 players. He also knows how he plans to develop and use these players. Don’t care about who the Eagles could have gotten, they chose these players and have thousands of hours invested in deciding the players that are the best fits for their plans

          • Alistair Middlemiss

            They have the best possible evaluation on Huff. he is a 0 risk pick who will be a solid slot 4th receiver who will contribute on special teams for many years and is a great locker room presence. He is Avant 2.0 and that is good value in the 3rd round.

      • livingonapear

        Need is a part of BPA. When you have two players in the same tier with similar grades, you draft the need. It functions as a tie breaker or a bonus.

        Their tier 1 evaporated, they picked the best guy from tier 2. The reason he was at the top of tier 2, as opposed to #3 or #4 on tier 2 (where Marquis Lee probably was) is because he filled a position of need that wasn’t going to be available later.

        You should draft BPA, but when you can fill a need while only giving up a few spots, you do it.

  • GhostMan

    What happened to Howie’s gospel of drafting the best player available? Marcus Smith the BPA at 26? No. Jordan Matthews BPA at 42? Probably…good pick. Josh Huff BPA at 86? Hell no!

    This draft stinks of Andy Reid trying to outsmart everyone and prove that he can see what no one else can. Just fill your team with great players and the rest will take care of itself.

    • anon

      Chip basically said draft is a crap shoot, you never know who is going to do what, just take guys you like.

      • GhostMan

        The draft is a huge crap shoot. But the best way to maximize your chances of having great drafts is to stick by your evals. rather than drafting for need. If you take BPA by your board, you will, by definition, take guys you like.

        • Alistair Middlemiss

          I doubt Huff is a need pick…. they obviously love him as a player.

          BPA is a great idea but you will wont draft QB’s and pass rushers unless you have a top 10 pick in a pure BPA scenario and those are kinda important positions..

  • Rahkem

    Im not gonna get too attached to this 101st pick i think theyll trade back lol

    • Alistair Middlemiss

      yeah we will be moving back 2-10 spots and getting an extra pick for sure

  • KG

    Didn’t get Clowney, Manziel and Watkins with our first 3 picks. Just absurd!

  • Rahkem

    I love the josh Huff pick for a few Reasons:

    1. Depth left at CB , i think the depth at CB is good and the eagles have a chance to pick one of many former 2nd round projections Mcgill , Roberson , Purifoy , Desir , Breeland. Whoever the eagles like best of that group they can have if they so choose.

    2. Huff is instantly our kick/Punt Returner – i never wanna see Brad Smith return a kick again , huff is a huge upgrade , Sproles has declined in the return game as of late.

    3. Huff will impact our season more than any defensive player we couldve taken at 86. He will have 20-40 catches Depending on the health of the unit , he will have a few touchdowns and maybe a few big returns. Any secondary player we wouldve taken wououldve had a tough time playing. Teams usually dont rotate much in the secondary unlike the recieving core.

    • anon

      He runs a 4.5 and is not especially shifty…

      • Rahkem

        4.5 is plenty enough speed to be an effective returner , watch him return the ball then get back to me , hes one of the top 5 return guys in this draft

    • Joe L

      McGill will be 25 when the season starts, but if Kelly wants that physical presence I think he’s the best option followed by Desir from Lindenwood.

      • Richard Colton

        we all want Desir Joe, which means we won’t get him. Surprised our boy from Rutgers didn’t go today?

        • Joe L

          After seeing guys like John Brown get drafted? Absolutely!

    • Richard Colton

      Thought your points were pretty good until #3. Then you went off the deep end. 20-40 catches? What did our 4th receiver have last year? now factor in Sproles. Huff does zip for us outside of ST next year.

      • Rahkem

        im leaning more towards 20 , i do not think sproles will have a ton of receptions also i dont think all 3 top guys wil be healthy all season , Huff would be the next guy up in that sitation and we run more 3 WR sets than anyone else

        • Richard Colton

          banking on more injuries? Christ Rahkem, now I’m even more depressed we took Huff. Thanks.

          • Hanibal Luis

            Maehl got what 4 or 5? But he came in late and didn’t show much. If Huff picks it up quick, he can get 15-20 catches. But all depends on the sub packages, if they don’t sub in/rotate a lot at WR to keep the D from subbing, then it might be tough.

        • Kev_H

          They’re gonna pass a lot more this year.

          • Clyderightside

            Good point–more YAC from the slot. VERY good point.

      • DoctorRick

        Huff is an intriguing pick. He will probably wind up being a possession receiver who can get some yac. He is antoher good work ethic kid who is not afraid to block.
        I’m still concerned about safety and corner. We need a little lightening in a bottle in the next picks.

    • Will

      I think he is also an upgrade from Avant

    • Ank

      More then any player at 86?…Nix would have been a gr8 fit…but don’t get me wrong in the end the extra picks plus what hiff can bring to return game n hopefully more is the better move

      • Alistair Middlemiss

        Nix is a fat lazy injury risk. He fell mid 3rd for a reason.

    • Glenn

      I do not like this pick one pick. There are many players on the board here that would help the Eagles more. This was where they should have picked the best corner on their board, or picked one of the guards. Huff was someone who would have been available in the 5th round or later. There was no reason to reach for this guy in the third round, even knowing that he probably fits Chip’s system, because no one else would even consider this guy here.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        You speak as if you almost know something. Its awful. Worst time of year for wannabe prognosticators

        • Glenn

          We need to draft a good corner, and there are several available who had second round grades. Why draft a guy in the third round, who would not have been picked up by any other team until the fifth round? This guy would have been able to be picked up by your later picks. Use your early round picks to shore up your offensive line, middle linebacker position, or secondary. Why overpay for this guy?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            1- we don’t need a CB, our top 3 there are set for the year. And whaddyaknow, plenty left. Eagles read it right

            2- you don’t know player grades. No one does. Mocks and media mean nothing. Nix falling doesn’t make him good value, its a concern. Huff had a 3rd rd grade from birds. Other teams probably too.

            3- plenty of OLD and LB left too.

            4- chip is smarter than you

            5- see number 4 again

          • Tikkit

            THIS all day. Every person saying they know a pick is “bad” is automatically disqualified. If you were smart enough to know, you’d be working for the Eagles. But you’re not.

          • Glenn

            We do need a cornerback. Look at what happened last year when we had to count on Roc Carmichael. How did that turn out in the Saints game? Williams will be a salary cap casualty after this year. We need to draft replacements for guys like Williams, Mathis, and Herremans, and the better guys are available in the third and fourth rounds.

          • Tikkit

            Uhh this is the reason they signed Carrol for Miami. No more Roc and the draft isn’t over.

          • Glenn

            Carroll is not quality starter material, but he is better than Carmichael, and that’s great. There are guys out there that will be able to be quality starters when guys like Herremans, Mathis, and Williams finish their tenure, that will no longer be there after the end of the fourth round. Huff would have been there after the fourth round.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Carroll is starting material. And much more so than any draft pick. Get real, dude

          • Token

            I think your right there. I dont see the value in drafting a corner up to this point. If we figure Cary is gone next year. You can still keep Fletch cheap and start him and Boykin. Or him and Carroll if you like that better. Anyway you look at it, it seems they are 3 deep at corner for the next couple years atleast.
            You have a guy in Boykin thats way better then any draft pick you could make here that could get more PT.

            You can get a development guy a bit later. McGill is very much a developmental guy. big kid, but cant play all that well right now.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            See? Logic detached from emotion and heresy is great

          • Token

            O no, your one of these guys? Dont have a opinion because The Eagles are smarter than you….. Jesus……

          • Tikkit

            I don’t think it’s that at all. But when people assume a pick is bad because Todd McShay or Mel Kiper or whomever said so, a little reality needs to be reintroduced. The failure rate of mock drafters and TV scouts is pretty high and well documented.

          • Token

            If we all cant have a opinion whats the point of this site?

            If you want a rosey view of everything Eagles related head on over to Tommy Lawlors pleasure palace. A non stop Eagles love fest over there.

          • Tikkit

            I totally agree with you on that. 100%. It’s more the point that no one know what these guys will turn out to be. This class may suck thoroughly and if it does, I’m going to be booing louder than anyone. However, I think we should give the FO the benefit of the doubt on picks. I know that’s hard given AR’s penchant for head scratchers.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Sorry token you’ve been around longer than that.
            opinion is not an acceptable tool to justify “reach”, “value”, or future success/role 24hrs after we draft some college kids. Its just asinine.

          • cliff henny

            #2, what’s funny is espn is breaking skulls trying to get at Balke jock over his drafting falling talent, but last 2 havent produced much at all for them. OSU hyde doesnt make a ton of sense, and Ward is 3rd safety or nickle corner at best in 1st. reason guys fall, these gms know what’s up.

      • Rahkem

        Undrafted? hell no , you do realize kiper and mcshay both had borderline 2nd round grades on huff? and look at all the guys who have bneen picked , plenty of guys have been picked that people think would be there later , dont put all your faith in mocks. These gm’s talk to each other they know whats REALLY up and whos moving up board etc.

        • Glenn

          Kiper and McShay didn’t have Huff ranked in their top 100. He wasn’t even the highest ranked Huff in the draft! One WR they did have in their ranking, Brandon Coleman, was undrafted! They ranked Coleman 89, Huff 133. 133 translates to a mid fourth round pick.

          • Rahkem

            he didnt end the season their but i have ESPN insider i foolow their boards all season he was there multiple times

          • Glenn

            It matters how they rank them at the end. After the Bowls. After the Senior Bowl, the Combine, the Pro Days. And this is where he ended up. I think he would have been drafted in the fifth round.

      • tommy_the_k

        I saw one reliable site that said the Giants were gonna sign Huff as their waterboy after the draft.

  • Joe L

    I wouldn’t have minded Nix at that last pick.

  • jesse

    Get Desir with first pick tomorrow and thats our third starter from this draft ’15season then take a chance on Christian Jones an OG with 5th and anther Duck in 7th DAT wraps up a decent draft considering our position and few picks

    • Richard Colton

      that’s a plan

    • quentin smith

      That would make me happy. Love DAT in the 7th

    • Rahkem

      lol i dont think hes a starter next year

      • jesse

        Why not? He is tall and long has decent speed, plays good press . With scones most likely gone why not?

    • Adam

      With the money tied up in Williams and Fletcher, and the need for Desir to develop more, I doubt he would start here next year.

      • Glenn

        I think he meant 2015. Williams will likely be a cap casualty after this season.

        • Adam

          Missed that. My bad.

          • jesse

            Don’t think Smith would be a full time starter till ’15season either

      • jesse

        Thus I said ’15season

  • Rahkem

    I would like Desir tommorow but i wouldnt mind going linebacker , no way in hell Demeco ryans is in our longterm plans with his current contract. Telvin Smith is a project but fast as hell with some ability. Shayne Skov Could be an option and if they arent done with pass rush morgan breslin reallly is only here because he didnt play last year. He wouldve been a mid-late 2nd last year he could be an option if we trade back a few spots from 101. Especially considering that mostl likely brandon graham and cole are gone after this year unless cole opts to take a huge pay cut.

  • Chris Jones

    I liked the Matthews pick and the Marcus smith pick is growing on me. Still we really blew it and panicked. Not a fan of huff though he was a big reach as well and overall an average player.

    • Will

      I don’t think we panicked with Huff. Maybe they just really liked him at that spot. Every team’s board is a different

      • wohg

        And Huff makes two receivers on the roster that have played regular time in Kelly’s system.

      • NCBiRDMann22

        Let Huff and Mathews shack up together in camp and have Huff teach him the O all night long. Mathews was begging for game tape right after he got drafted. I think it is going to pay massive dividends having Huff here. Kid is a baller…just watch some live game action.

    • JofreyRice

      “Reach and Panic”, a guide to the Philadelphia Eagles 2014 draft.

      • All Things Bad@ss

        You’re always sensible in your assessments, but this comment seems far more knee-jerk than any pick the Eagles have made. I’ve always kind of felt that no one ever questions Belichick’s “astro-picks”, and time will tell if Kelly will get that same latitude … I’m just a bit more trustful from the onset I suppose. And maybe I’m a fool, but I doubt it. He has a history of being masterful with whatever talent is on his plate .. and he’s not afraid to defy conventional opinion and go get the piece of clay he wants to mold … it’s what I love about him. Don’t get me wrong; I think there always a possibility his hubris is fogging his clarity, but unlikely. I gotta think that the trifecta of Gamble, Kelly and Roseman might, JUST MIGHT, have a clue what the hell they’re doing. I’ll gladly provide the popcorn …

      • Philonious

        Yeah, your probably right. I am pretty sure Kelly has spent almost no time assessing his offense and which players fit where. He doesn’t seem obsessed with football, like you. I wish you could have drafted for us because you have a much better idea of what we need than Kelly.

        • JofreyRice

          Ok, thanks, I’ll consider it.

      • Token

        What are you some kind of armchair GM?!?! Huh!!! You think you know more then Kelly and Howie!?

        Ugh ill tell you what, the Eagles are brilliant. Somehow, without even being a successful franchise they have managed to turn most of this fanbase into submissive drones. Like its a cult or something. You literally have theycallmerob on here this morning telling people they are idiots for having a opinion that differs from the almighty Chip and Howie.

        • JofreyRice

          This website is fluffer-heavy, but they are good people.

          • cliff henny

            think people just feel positive about direction kelly’s taking eagles, and it’s little too early to be 2nd guessing. particularly offense, since mccoy jax cooper celek et all looked so good under kelly. dont see panic, and maybe slight reach aheads, nothing crazy. if they are targeting players, good, go get them. 3starters a draft, that’s the goal. isnt like 6 guys from this draft will be impact players. hope not, meansroster really stunk

          • NickS1

            You do realize that according to Token, the roster was arguably the worst in the NFL, right?

          • Token

            I think people get a little carried away with last year. Down the stretch success came mostly against either bad team, teams missing their best players or both.

            We got beat up by the few good teams we played didnt we? Not to say Chip stinks or anything, but this team has a longer way to go then people think based on last years end results.

          • Richard Colton

            it is today. then again, that’s the magic of draft day. 100% of the guys you take will be in Canton in 20 years

          • Andy124

            Yeah, but it’s true… Until it isn’t. But until then, hof for all.

    • John E. Zang

      Look at Seattle. They don’t go by the medias popular choice they take the player they want and believe in. I’d much rather a team with a legitimate process to the draft than “oh whose the next guy all the experts are saying we should draft?”

      • livingonapear

        The ESPN review of the Seahawks’ day (not that this means anything for real) basically said “I didn’t understand any of this, but it’s Pete Carroll sooooo….Thumbs up!”

        We got a thumbs up too, but so did 2/3 of the league.

    • Doctor Jay

      he was rated as 3rd rounder.. I think it was a good pick.. no panic at all

  • Rahkem

    Also why not Aaron Colvin over Desir , if im gonna draft a guy whos not gonna start year one id rather get one who has starter pedigree fromt he jump when healthy. He wont play next year but thats why hes a 4th round pick.

    • Adam

      Chip and Billy like big, long corners like Desir. That would be my guess.

      • Rahkem

        yeah but colvin isnt small at 5’11 , we’ll see , but colvin wouldve been a 2nd round lock had he not gotten injured

        • Doctor Jay

          5’11” is becoming smallish in the NFL now a days..

          • Rahkem

            Why because of seattle ? id rather not be a dickrider , 5’11 is good length most of the top 10 corners are around 5’11

  • aub32

    If huff turns into Kelly’s Jason Avant, then I guess it isn’t a terrible pick.

    • Doctor Jay

      huff has produced way more than avant did in college

    • OldDocRoss

      If he turns into Avant it’s a very good pick. Eight years of solid, reliable production from a third round pick is way above average.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Yea but no 4.4?

        ….some fans I swear

  • jrc4120

    Hoping for Desir tomorrow..surprised he is still on the board. Wouldn’t mind Jones either. Very surprised Bryant from Clemson is still available too.

  • gil

    Big 6’3″ cornerback McGill is the one Eagles should draft.

    • Penfold

      I agree. McGill or Desir. Would be fine with either.

      • NickS1

        Desir.

        • oreofestar

          I would take Roberson, Exum, Desir, Breeland before I take 25 year old McGill

          • RIP illa

            So none of you guys like Jaylen Watkins?

          • oreofestar

            not over what if left I like Dontae Johnson over him too I thought more corners would go day 2 but they did not can not get mad at Chip for taking his guy when he saw how many options he’d have at 101

          • RIP illa

            It killed me that Gaines was picked right after, Oh’ well. I need speed on the outside, So I’m gonna say Watkins, Johnson, Aikens, Desir, and Colvin (depending on medical) over everybody else. Also, hopefully we get a couple of UFDAs for the position.

    • Hanibal Luis

      McGill’s age make me nervous. Must be PDWTS. I say guard here ’cause I don’t know Desir that well.

  • Kev_H

    Love the first two picks, not so much the third. Picking players isn’t like picking coaches. You can’t just get some guy you know and like. I always get uneasy when our bloggers play “let’s take a look at Oregon players” because if the Eagles are more likely to draft them than other teams, they are by definition reaching for jerseys and hurting their team. I’m not sure if Huff is a vanity pick, but it’s a little fishy.

    • phillylove21

      He’s no scrub bro.. He’s what you call a “FOOTBALL PLAYER “.. During the senior bowl on the NFL network he man handle all his defenders.. He’s a man already coming in this league.. He’s very aggressive in terms of playing the receiver position.. Watch his demeanor when he’s man to man with the corner in his presence.. I like this pick..

    • Justin

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Huff the first Duck Chip has drafted?

  • Hanibal Luis

    Oh, Huff would look good wearing, I don’t know, say, number #11?

    Evil, evil, evil.

    • NickS1

      He would. I’d love to hand him #10.

      • Hanibal Luis

        Thought of that, but he was #1 at O, so it’s tempting to give him the double sticks. Plus, it will help us forget that skier guy :P

  • Daniel Norman Richwine

    High character, high production, physical players this year.

  • Charles

    Kelly brought Huff into Oregon because he saw something in him. In coaching him at Oregon, he must have seen so much that he continued to like that he chose him again. That’s the ultimate compliment and a big reason why we should be excited about this pick. Welcome to Philadelphia, Josh!

  • cliff henny

    guess arguement could be made for taking these 3 guys a smidge early, but that like trying to bottom/top out on stocks. i’m not going to question kelly’s choice of offensive weapons, he knows what he needs. plus, sure eagles have huge difference in grades than other 31 teams, offense isnt like anything any other team is running. Huff was a dagger player at Oregon. he mastered selling the short stuff and when defese creeped in, he ran right by them. it’s crazy how many stand alone tds this guy had from fake screnes.

    • NickS1

      Yeah, not helping me like it more. One of the things I do like about these WRs is that they are going to be a force in the running game. These two should excel at blocking. BUT, that’s not why you draft a receiver.

      • cliff henny

        Huff was 3rd/4th on cbssports.com for almost all of ’14. started off as 5th, got a sr bowl bump, it’s not that much of a reach. it’s not like kelly didnt scout these cats. i wasnt overwhelmed by pick, but offense i’ll give him benfit of doubt.

        • NickS1

          Thought I consistently saw him in the 4th/5th range. I think the kid can play, and will be fine. I definitely would have preferred Moncreif… I don’t hate the players as much as I hate Howie ran this draft. Namely, in the trade up for Matthews. Could have sat back, let Lattimer fall (hindsight, I know) and gone into today with 101, 122, 140, 162, and 237.

          • cliff henny

            have to figure like Smith was target over Lawrence and ATtaouchi, Matthews was over Rob and Lat. i like sitting and letting guys fall, but that’s alot easier to do picking early. like how Howie is targeting guys, but still having plenty of picks.
            .
            matthews can play. wonder how many people posting here watched him live, i did 3 or4 times. he was it, everyone in the stadium knew where ball was going and he made plays against elite SEC teams. Huff, little early, maybe, but that Brown guy out of Pitts ST went right behind him, so who knows. Moncrief, i got the arguement he was really raw, maybe just too raw for kelly.

          • NickS1

            I dislike the targeting strictly because we were supposed to have turned into this BPA strategy, and that seems to abandon that strategy, thus, my issue with the Matthews trade up, and the Huff pick. I was actually a-ok with the Smith pick. I figured he would have been gone by 41, and if he was their top player, or even top OLB, left, then I’m good with it. I wanted him anyway. I just struggle to see the trade up when Lattimer and Robinson fell. Is there such a gap in talent to warrant the trade and not having another pick and possibly productive player? This is why I’m not okay with our draft. I don’t dislike the players, I dislike the strategy. And if Token’s right that Kelly told Huff’s OC months ago that he was getting drafted in the 3rd, then I tend to agree with Token’s frustrations with the Huff pick.

          • Token

            “He said he was going to draft me, and he kept his word,” Huff said of Kelly.
            philly.com

            Jeff McLane – “Josh Huff said that his Oregon OC told him at his Pro Day that the #Eagles were going to draft him in the 3d rd.”

          • NickS1

            Then, yeah, while I like the kid, and think he can be a decent pro in a year or two, I have to agree that I don’t like us drafting him when Moncreif was still there.

          • cliff henny

            oh com’on, these coaches blow smoke up each propects behind when they talk. sure ‘if you are there in round X, expect a call’ is worked into darn near every conversation. this time it just happened to work out, and has Oregon connection.

          • Token

            Yea, im sure he made it up. What a coincidence.

          • cliff henny

            bpa is way to literal. if bpa existed, then teams would be doubling up positions, but somehow that rarely happens. eagles read strength of draft, needs of team, targeted where highest value would be for both in rds 1 and 2, i’m totally fine with that. they made plays for the guys with highest value they couldwithin reason get.
            .
            so what if kelly thought huff warranted 3rd rd, not like it was 2nd. was 2/3 rds way thru 3rd, about where he was mocked.

          • NickS1

            I didn’t mean as a literal interpretation, but just not trading up for a player that’s comparable to two-three others on the board. Obviously they felt differently. I don’t not like Matthews, just not how they went about it. Same with Huff. Doesn’t mean I have to like it or agree with it. Also doesn’t mean I want him to fail. Just don’t like the strategy.

          • cliff henny

            well, by trading up 10 spots or whatever, that tells me in kelly eyes they arent that comparable. sure, had 2 choices, 3 left see which one falls, or use a 4th and get the one you want.

          • NickS1

            Yup, I’m aware. Don’t like it, or agree. We’ll see how it goes. At least the WRs improved.

  • Kelz

    I can’t help, but to think Eagles will draft D’thomas and trade B Brown. As much defense help we need, I’ll like to see him in the backfield with @cutonadime.

  • Ray888

    The purpose of drafting is to assemble a good team; it is not to collect a group of All-Star players. See Dream Tream for how effective that was.

  • Jeff Asay

    Why does this draft feel like an Andy Reid draft? Seems like they’re choosing everyone a round early, and more on need than BPA. I like both WR’s chosen, though I think the kid from Indiana might be the better pro over Mathews…did Eagles just pick the wrong member of the bloodline again? I.e. Casey M. ******************************************************
    Honestly haven’t seen this Huff kid take a snap, but based on how guys talked about him on NFL network I pictured Hines Ward. Said he’s a running back playing wide receiver. I got some heavy man-crush for Hines Ward and players like him. Stop the Avant talk and let’s compare to Hines. Avant was slow the day he got to Philly. Huff still a 4.5 guy with physicality, so let’s hope for Hines 2.0!

  • Token

    Kelly told Huff or his OC that he was gonna draft him in the 3rd round. Months ago. This is simply all about the Oregon connection. Im trying to recall a NFL head coach that has made such a point to give his former players jobs. It was a sentimental pick from Chip. You cant waste 3rd rounders on that.

    Huff was successful, for sure. But in the same offense that mad Jeff Maehl look like a weapon in college.

    Right now we have Cooper and Mac outside. With Chip saying Huff and Matthews will start in the slot. Then you have Sproles working the slot too. Chip says they needed to replace Avant inside, ok I get it. But what about finding a legit outside guy too? You know, the guys who play 90%+ of snaps. Matthews should be able to get a chance out there and I hope Chip doesnt just banish him to the slot like Boykin because he already has his mind made up.

    All I know is you cant throw away 3rds because you are emotionally attached to a player you coached. You still have to be getting building blocks there. Solid starting caliber players. Huff IMO seems to max out as a #4 WR who may contribute on ST. Cant have enough ST aces. You could have Huff or his equivalent talent in the 5th round.

    Whats odd is Andy Reid would have been torn apart for this draft. Hes had many like it.

    • NickS1

      I’m not as low on the Huff pick, but I still don’t like it and would have liked Moncreif instead.

      • oreofestar

        yeah I wanted Moncrief but John Brown was picked before him and he has huge bust potential maybe there is something we do not know because we don’t know half of what GMs know

  • oreofestar

    Here is the thing I am okayish with the pick because look I wanted Desir and what do you know he is still there while ARZ took Josh Brown maybe the pick would have been Huff had he been available who knows if Huff can be Avant then like someone below said 8 years of solid play 500ish yards of offense and kr value s not a bad pick at the bottom of the 3rd.

    Now we have a shot at any corner he chooses I hope Desir but Roberson, Exum, Breeland,Purifoy I would be okay with any or he can get Urban I guy I like.

    I am gonna say we get Desir,Hart with the picks we got from Houston I have a feeling he likes Hart too, and do not be surprised if he goes earlier I am hearing there is a bit of buzz on him probably be a lock for the 4th without injury

    • Scott J

      Maclin replaces Jackson on the outside. Mathews replaces Avant. This kid will be used all over, but early on will most likely be on special teams.

  • Scott J

    Another weapon in a potent offense. Celek, Ertz, Shady, Sproles, Maclin, Cooper, Benn, Mathews, Huff. Foles is doing backflips!

    • Token

      I cant help but look at that offense and not feel all that confident. I see a offense that is a McCoy injury away from being pretty mediocre. And thats assuming Foles doesnt take a step back. I think Chip is really gonna be put to the test this year.

      • oreofestar

        we traded Avant and DJAX for Matthews, Maclin, Huff and Sproles and that does not include hopeful improvements in year 2 our offense is better and last year we were a Mccoy injury away from being mediocre but we still finished 2nd in offense

        • ztom6

          If RB depth is so important to this offense, you’d think they’d make more of a priority of drafting one rather than reaching on luxury picks like Josh Huff.

          • oreofestar

            as it stand we have Sproles and Brown so it is not like we have nothing at RB behind Mccoy I would say an RB is more of a luxury than another wr I thought we’d draft 2 wideout anyway I just thought the 2nd one would be a little later

  • oreofestar

    Also highly doubt they will stick their tallest wr in the slot Chip is probably working Matthews in and he may be outside full time by mid season or maybe he will use him in creative ways we do not know about and he does not want to spill

    • Jeff Asay

      Mathews is a tough, smart guy. Got a little worried at the swagger he showed up on stage, but maybe it’s a chip on his shoulder. Best comment I heard was this is a WR who everybody knew was getting the ball, playing in the SEC and he shined. Good pick-up.

      • oreofestar

        DO NOT be worried about the “swagger” he showed on stage he is a huge character guy with great work ethic I heard he asked for tape a CBs he was facing at the senior bowl also heard he paid to hit the jugs machine extra early

  • oreofestar

    Also can we give Chip a break we love to bash him so much for this draft but how do the Pats get a pass for heavily reaching for a DL and then using the second pick on a backup yet it is totally fine because it is Bill and he has received the benefit of the doubt same with Pete and until Chip has a bad draft and proves me wrong I am somewhat inclined to do the same

  • oreofestar

    Yankey, Thomas and Dozier are here so good stuff left at guard I still like Urban and a ton or corners left I hope they do not blow the pick

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Surprised at Yankey, I like him too.
      OL or DL would be nice here. I like dontae Johnson in the 4th/5th too

      • cliff henny

        what? Yankey is still available? stanford was unwatchable except for him bulldozing guys.

      • Richard Colton

        How about the draft arc of Morgan Moses? Went from B-more Robb sleeper to 1st round lock to late 3rd round pick. Roller coaster career and he hasn’t taken a snap yet. I was wondering if we might take a flyer at 83 or 86 if he dropped further.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          Ew a lolskin?

          :( :( :(

          • oreofestar

            That was a great pick by them IMO while Cowboys gave up a 3rd to draft an inferior player 7 spots after us and it is a good pick but taking Marcus at 26 is a horrible reach it is just people looking at mocks if the Texans took him at 33 no one would blink an eye

          • NickS1

            In round two, there were 5 teams who could have taken Marcus by pick 41. Definitely not a huge reach.

          • oreofestar

            hell I would not have been surprised for SEA or SF to take him round 1

          • NickS1

            Yeah, and Seattle had 41, too.

          • oreofestar

            think DAL would have taken him over Lawrence if they could

          • NickS1

            Probably, despite being back in the 4-3.

      • RIP illa

        Is Yankey better than Dozier, or are they not that far apart in terms of talent? I think I remember Dozier getting a lot of love, a couple of months back. Also I’m clueless on OL at this point, cuz my OL man crush (Schofield) got picked 2 rounds ahead of where he was projected. Although I’m not surprised by it at all.

        • Hanibal Luis

          I don’t know but Yankey looks like a beast pushing people back.

        • oreofestar

          I like Dozier more actually but I am probably in the minority but with so many good corner options left that is what I want

    • Token

      4th round, they are now officially allowed to draft offensive linemen. Dont know anything about these guys. Is Yankey a system fit? Good value?

      • oreofestar

        Yankey is just good value really

    • NickS1

      Jones at 101 and Yankey at 122….wait, we traded that to jump 12 spots. Hopefully Yankey is still there at 140.

      • oreofestar

        Don’t think we will touch Jones I think it is the drugs

        • NickS1

          I said it last night, and I know Oregon is different, but Chip seems to strike me as a guy that’s a little more liberal when it comes to ganga.

          • Doctor Jay

            yea you know nicky foles has a 4 footer in his basement

  • NCBiRDMann22

    I’m gonna go out on the limb and through this out there…feel free to comment. You can go ahead and stamp it…Jordan Mathews has a better career then ODB and the Giants end up looking like fools. This kid is so hunger and has been looked over through the levels. We got a player who is dying to be the best.

    • Richard Colton

      quite a limb

      • NCBiRDMann22

        We’ll look back year by year.

    • Hanibal Luis

      As mush as I hate the Gmen, I don’t want to go that route. Let the kid be as good as he can be at Linc, in this scheme, and forget the rest.

    • NickS1

      Quadrapalegics don’t have limbs to go out on.

      • Hanibal Luis

        Makes the typing all that more impressive.

        • NickS1

          That’s telekinesis, Kyle.

          • Hanibal Luis

            He can read minds?

          • NickS1

            He can move objects with his mind……… Also, that was a Tenacious D lyric that seemed appropriate. So let’s just move on.

          • Hanibal Luis

            I know. And I was meeting your Tenacious D reference and raising you a Zoolander ;)

            But I’ll exit to the left.

          • NickS1

            Damn it! My bad.

    • Rahkem

      I like OBJ man , i think he will deffinitely have better stats as a rookie. I think its gonna be a year or 2 before matthews breaks out similar to demaryius thomas which is who he reminds me of. Demaryius used to be a pure burner but hes now bulked up about 20 pounds sinnce college and sacrificed some of that speed for physicality. The balance and strength are why i believe hes very similar to thomas along with having long speed though matthews is slightly slower.

      • oreofestar

        Matthews ran 4.46 at 6’3 and OBJ ran 4.43 at 5’11 I’ll trade that speed for the height now OBJ should have higher rookie stats because their are less options in NY which means he will have more oppurtunities I think Matthews will only be getting 600ish yards as a rookie but Matthews ceiling is much higher than OBJ. OBJ’s ceiling is Randall Cobb

        • Rahkem

          Yeah but OBJ is more explosive , he gets to his top speed much faster than Matthews . dont get me wrong i love matthews but im not gonan flip on OBJ just because the gianst got him before the draft i was high on him and im rolling with that.

  • Hanibal Luis

    I rather go to work with high character, hard working types with talent of course, than the all the talent/potential in world but might not be the hardest worker, hasn’t matured yet types. Possibly why Nix lasted so long.

    • Doctor Jay

      That didn’t stop clowney from coming right off the board..

  • Richard Colton

    Hey Texans…#101 for next year’s 3rd and #177. You know you need Zack Metterberger.

    • oreofestar

      They totally do not care about winning now they are stacking D and worrying about QB later

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    Big Spider graphs beat up little Spider graphs