What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s the roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week, including several mock draft projections.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. has the Eagles taking Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin in the first round:

I consider Benjamin a bit of a project, with his route running and consistency in need of development, but I can think of worse ideas than giving Chip Kelly the developmental keys to a player who stands a full 6-5 and at 240 pounds runs like guys 30 pounds lighter. The Eagles have Jeremy Maclin coming off a serious knee injury, and Riley Cooper remains, but minus DeSean Jackson they could use another matchup threat, and where it was speed for Jackson, it’s size for Benjamin. Sometimes, there’s not much you can do with him.

In the second round, Kiper projects Lindenwood CB Pierre Desir to the Birds:

If Attaochu was available here, I could see that fit, but the pass-rushing help beyond him sees a value drop-off at this slot and Philly instead adds some length and depth at corner with the intriguing small-college star.

Chris Burke of SI.com has the Eagles taking Oregon State WR Brandin Cooks:

DeSean Jackson is over in Washington after an ugly falling out with the Eagles. Chip Kelly wastes little time finding his replacement in the dynamic Cooks, a burner capable of doing it all from the receiver position. Cooks is the type of player who should thrive within Kelly’s system.

ESPN.com’s Todd McShay has the Eagles going with USC WR Marqise Lee in the first round:

Lee would give the Eagles’ receiving corps a shot in the arm. Right now it’s Jeremy Maclin (who is coming off of a torn ACL), Riley Cooper and a few question marks. Lee isn’t the burner that DeSean Jackson was for this offense, and he struggled with drops in 2013 much more so than he did his first two seasons, but he has good field speed and is a threat after the catch. Lee did some serious damage to Chip Kelly’s Oregon teams in 2011 and 2012, with a combined 20 catches for 344 yards and three touchdowns.

In the second round, McShay projects Florida State safety Terrence Brooks:

Brooks is something of a reach for the Eagles here, but they need a safety and Brooks brings good playmaking ability.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com thinks Fresno State WR Davante Adams makes sense for the Eagles in the second round:

The loss of DeSean Jackson has garnered the headlines, but it’s the void created by the departure of veteran Jason Avant that could have the greatest impact Nick Foles’ efficiency from the pocket. Avant routinely made key catches over the middle of the field in critical situations. Chip Kelly could peg Adams to slide into Avant’s role as the versatile No. 3 receiver.

Rob Rang of CBSSports.com mocks Ohio State CB Bradley Roby to the Eagles:

Chip Kelly is, of course, most known for offense but during his tenure at Oregon, his Ducks featured terrific cornerback play, as well. The Eagles took a significant step in improving upon their 30th ranked pass defense by landing former New Orleans Saints’ safety Malcolm Jenkins but more help is needed. Roby struggles a bit with consistency but the tools are there to warrant top 20 consideration.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com thinks it’ll be LSU WR Odell Beckham Jr.:

With Desean Jackson gone, they have to get speed outside.

Pat Kirwan of CBSSports.com goes with Beckham also:

Beckham is a very solid citizen and a polished receiver. If the Eagles decide to hold off on a receiver and go defense there are a number of solid defenders left on the board. The Eagles reportedly tried to trade for Dion Jordan and that should indicate their desire for defensive help at pass rusher.

Greg Gabriel of the National Football Post thinks it’ll be Cooks:

The Eagles cut DeSean Jackson a few weeks ago. Cooks is a similar athlete with speed and run-after-the-catch skills. Chip Kelly is very familiar with his talent.

Evan Silva of Rotoworld mocks Michigan State CB Darqueze Dennard to the Birds:

Dennard’s shorts-and-t-shirt measurables aren’t on par with Justin Gilbert or Kyle Fuller’s, but his game tape is more impressive than both, and his skill set will appeal to the Eagles. Second-year DC Billy Davis combines blitz-heavy concepts with press coverage on the perimeter. Dennard is the premier press-man corner in this year’s draft. He would be a Week 1 starter in Philadelphia.

SI.com’s Don Banks goes with Beckham:

Beckham features both DeSean Jackson’s burst and elusiveness, as well as the added element of being dangerous in the return game. There are defensive needs for a pass-rushing end or cornerback that could take precedent in Philly, but Chip Kelly is running this show, and he likes offense. What better way to turn the page on the Eagles’ Jackson era than by replacing him with a younger and hopefully better version?




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  • Uncle Johnny

    Where has Geagle gone?????

    • MoreViolence

      Kinda miss him ripping on the national writers..made the comments fun. Pouring a little out for a lost one.

    • Maggie

      Igglesblitz.

    • Michael

      You all are obsessed and it boggles my mind as to why anyone would care so much…

    • mksp

      Who cares?

  • Joe from Easton

    I’d take Benjamin in rd. 1.

  • southy

    So what have we learned? If there’s a WR out there with a 1-2 grade, there’s a mock draft out there that has him going to the Birds at #22, and a journalist wasting air about how well he’ll fit into Chip’s system.

    But let’s set some parameters. Chip has a minimum threshold for specific measurables at the WR position. Meet those measurables and it comes down to the tape. That allows us to thin the herd.

    So let’s start by culling anyone under 6′ tall. That means Cooks is out.

    Anyone with hands 9.5″ or smaller is gone. Bye bye Marquise Lee, Martavis Bryant, Allen Robinson,and Tiny Hands Moncreif.

    You could eliminate Benjamin on pretty much any other measurable you could name that doesn’t have to do with size.

    Where does that leave us? ODB, Jordan Matthews, and of course, Mike Evans who we know Chip has a DIY fathead of on his bedroom wall.

    • brza

      Good points.
      As much as I’d like to see them get Cooks if they stay at 22 and the top pass rushers are gone I know it won’t happen because of his height. Also I think its a bit telling that he’s one of the few top 10 WRs that they didn’t take a closer look at with an official visit or by sending Bicknell to his Pro Day.

      • Bullwinkle

        If height was an absolute, 5′-6″ Sproles would not be on the team. I think Sheil mentioned before in other articles that Kelly’s offense at Oregon featured some smaller, very agile and fast players.

        • southy

          If Sproles were a WR it would definitely be an issue. Different measurable for a different position, and even then it’s a bit different when you talk about a guy that’s had success in the NFL.

          • Mhogz

            Sproles is, essentially, a wr. Just one that can consistently come out of the backfield. I think the whole size thing is a little overstated, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see chip go with cooks since he is basically a little bigger of a carbon copy of djax, with whom chip had a lot of success. Personally, I still hope they draft defense and I would love to see a db or Cj Mosley if he drops far enough… Wishful thinking I know

    • DEBO 215

      I really think they’re going to make a move for Evans. Call it a hunch but I think Chip is just in love with the idea of him in this offense.

      • southy

        Bit of a sticky situation. We just don’t have a lot of ammo, and we’re trying to use some of it on Dion. I would LOVE to get Evans. He’s like a faster, lighter Jimmy Graham. I don’t see how he falls far enough for us to not throw some serious trade capital in that direction.

      • peteike

        hunch, dream, semantics

    • JofreyRice

      Beckham’s out, too–only 5’11”.

    • cliff henny

      solid thought process, wouldn’t cross guys off list over hands, Ertz doesn’t have the biggest of mitts. rest, yeah, think if guy is under 6-2 and 200 or so lbs, he better be so off the charts freak of nature, least my hope so they’ll pass on Lee. with Cooper, Maclin, Ertz, Sproles and Celek, at least 1, probably 2 can be brought along slowly, so not too worried if they wait till mid rounds and get raw with huge upside. also helps Kelly has no issue running it 60 times a game.

      • southy

        Well, YOU might not cross guys off the list based on hands, but I seem to remember it being something they specifically pointed out when Chip came aboard in some quote somewhere. To me, tape is king. I still can’t square Benjamin’s combine with his tape and it bothers me. But so long as we’re doing the exercise, thought it would be good to go by what we do know about Chip’s selection process.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          The “hands” quote was from a football clinic Kelly was involved in where he referenced the QB’s physical size not being as important as the size of his hands.

          Don’t recall anything about positional skill players and hand size being an end all, be all determining factor though.

    • Eagles1018

      What about Cody Latimer?

  • Joe Thomas

    Benjamin scares and intrigues me. If he was more athletic, I would be sold. But the threat he could potentially provide could be tremendous. Im just gonna stick with “In Chip we Trust” and ride it out, regardless who we take.

    • Maggie

      As long as it’s a serious pass rusher, lol.

      • southy

        I don’t think Chip values a pass rushing specialist like most FOs do. The reason he likes Dion so much (me too!) is due to his ability to do other things. Same with the safeties where he doesn’t want a SS and a FS, he doesn’t want Barwin and a pass rusher.

        • Warhound

          Yeah, they want versatility which allows for deception. I would expect that they will eventually have a ROLB who only rushes 50% or less.

  • Macc

    In the last 5 years a receiver has caught 10+ TDs in a season 50 times. 48 of the 50 were done by receivers 6’1 or more. Exceptions are Greg Jennings and Wes Welker.

    • Adam G

      Didn’t have to go far down the all time list to see that you are way off. How about Mark Clayton of the Dolphins? Andre Rison? Marvin Harrison? Come on.

      • Andy124

        Those guys played in the last 5 years? Where the heck have I been?

      • JustaTest

        Did any of those play in the last 5 years?

        • Adam G

          COMPLETELY whiffed on the 5 years, sorry about that. Read it a little too fast.

    • knighn

      Please tell me you have a link for this.

      • Andy124

        I count 42 out of 50.
        Guys like Maclin, Wayne, White, Wallace, Lloyd and Cruz are all listed an 6’0″ by espn.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Is it your opinion tht TD is the most important metric for the position?

      • mtn_green

        ‘What’s your plan?’
        Chip’s plan is to f’ing score points!

        • anon

          need chain movers as much as redzone targets.

    • Adam G

      What about Victor Cruz, Mike Wallace, Jeremy Maclin, Brandon Lloyd, and Reggie Wayne? Those are within 5 years and all under 6’1

      • Andy124

        Also of note is that there are a number of TEs in that sample. They should be eliminated since the focus is on WRs here.

  • Breakerdog

    Defense first round. WR’s that would be first rounders most years like J Matthews or Donte Moncreif will be around in the second and third.
    If J Ward, KVN or J Attechechua are there at 54 I might take take them there and hold off until 3 for a WR

  • mtn_green

    I want to know what Ashley Fox has to say about the mysterious disappearance of Geeagle?

  • EaglefaninAZ

    I can’t take these national mocks anymore. From what I’ve read in the last few weeks, the Birds are taking almost everyone in the first round, and everyone else in the 2nd.
    Deepest WR draft in ages, and since a certain release we must be taking a WR in the first. Oy vey.

  • Bird of Prey

    I honestly crack up at Kiper’s pick, where he basically says the receiver is a 6’5 -= 240lb one trick pony, and you get what you pay for. Pierre Desir will be a pretty good corner though.

    As for the rest of them, the effect of Jackson in Washington and us facing him twice a year doesn’t mean we have to replace him on Offense. It only reiterates we need some secondary help to stop him.

    Silly news writers…

    I can’t wait for this to be over in two weeks.
    Go Eagles!

  • PaoliBulldog

    Benjamin at 22, no way. Too many questions about speed and hands.

    • JofreyRice

      I feel the same way, but I wonder what Plaxico Burress’ spider graph would have looked like? He had similar testing numbers to Benjamin; 4.59 40, 33in vert, 9’7″ broad, compared to Benjamin’s 4.61 40, 32.5 in vert and 9’9″ broad,

      Burress went #8, overall. His college production was probably better, considering he only spent 2 seasons, and didn’t play in the era of the spread.

      The big thing for me are the hands. I just hate receivers that can’t catch, regardless of whatever “matchup nightmare” they represent. I know guys like T.O. (and even Brandon Marshall) enjoyed a lot of success along with suffering from the drops, but it didn’t ever seem like an issue the way it seems when you watch Benjamomah.

      • Warhound

        Ups for “Benjamomah”

  • JofreyRice

    Silva must not have watched the defense too often. These guys almost never press, because they don’t trust the safeties to prevent the big play behind it. I’d be fine with Dennard in the second, but the first is too high for him. Give me Fuller, instead, if the choice is going to be a DB.

    Not understanding the Cooks obsession, either. He’s a fine player, but to spend a 1st rounder on him is too much. Mid-2nd, maybe. I’d love to see them add a dynamic speed guy, but you could get Robert Herron to do that from the slot a lot later. Or pick up Paul Richardson to stretch the D from the perimeter. If they’re taking a WR with #22, I want Evans, ODB, or Lee. If those guys are gone, drop back and capitalize on the depth. Herron and A-Rob or Richardson and Benjamin would be exciting, and they could really use the picks.

    • cliff henny

      pretty good article on value received in draft day trades.

      http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/4/22/5637794/2014-nfl-draft-eagles-trade-value-chart

      looking at examples, i’m all for dropping back 6-8 spots in rounds 1-3, and i’d happily take the worst case examples. oh, and even If you don’t want to read article, graph at end you have to see, shows almost all trades are within 100 in the value chart, except RG3/LOLskins, being -3000

    • Warhound

      But do they want to press? If safety isn’t such a liability this year I expect to see them press more. Thoughts?

      • JofreyRice

        Possibly, I was just disagreeing with the idea that Dennard would be the pick *because* they are a “press” defense.

        I don’t think they have improved S enough to really be comfortable leaving those guys back there if receivers get off the press at the line. I’m not a Malcolm Jenkins fan, at all. I think Wolff has a long way to go to show he’s a solid NFL starter, and that the best option might actually be Nate Allen (ugh).

        • Warhound

          OK

      • DoctorRick

        I don’t think safety is safe. I like Jenkins but he does not instill terror.

        • Warhound

          I think that they’d like to press more but, yeah, they need better safety play and a better pass rush before they can do it.

  • peteike

    I like Cooks, Lee and ARob more than the others. I still think they go D or trade down and maybe take WR w that first pick. Ealy I think is possible, is he a fit per scheme? I still want one of the top 2 safeties, Dix or Pryor but doubt they make it. If they take KB while one of those guys are on the board Ill be upset, otherwise all faith in CK. Then again, chances are one of those guys is just average but you may have to gamble a bit on safeties now per priorities.

    • cliff henny

      I don’t get cooks at all. I see darn near same guy in Michael Camparano out of WF, same exact size, played with garbage qb and was triple teamed. he’s a 6th/7th.

      • peteike

        really? Cooks was a beast, good numbers, plays tough, game breaking speed. I think hes real deal and has success at next level. Im not a big metrics guy and think a smarter pick sometimes is speed and hands rather than just size and hands. Too many big guys cant separate at next level, much riskier picks imo.

        • cliff henny

          Cooks also only shined 1 yr. he was pretty much blasted for 2 yrs by coaches, couldn’t get him motivated to workout, had all the talent but never put it together on field. he came back this year a different physical person, but it’s almost like doing it in contract year to me. now, no denying he did it. watched plenty of cooks and MC, be surprised how productive MC was at WF. if i’m spending resources, i’m getting 6’2+ 200+lb freak early and if I want a slot/RAC guy with some speed, there’s options later in draft.

          • peteike

            I still want D with first pick or trade down is ideal. I dont ever claim to know much about these guys, only highlight reels which aint much. Had no idea it was a one year wonder thing, good point.

      • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

        Campanaro is nice 4 sure, but Cooks is just more explosive, and a better runner with a TON more production on his resume. Campanaro also had a bit of Ammedola in him when you look at his injury history, which speaks more to his physical play than him being soft, but regardless….. Another guy who was a very good player but gets ZERO love is Jeremy Gallon. I never hear his name anymore, after hearing every Saturday since September. You know the drill. Half these guys we hype up will never be the players we anticipate, and 75% of the success stories have yet to be written. May 10th, 2014-NATIONAL GEM DIGGING DAY. BYO pickaxe

    • Warhound

      I don’t expect them to overdraft safeties. They’ve positioned themselves so they won’t have to do that. They might do it very slightly for an OLB; a guy at that position who’s an 8.1 that might take over an 8.2 rated player (esp WR since it’s so deep). I would expect a safety only if he’s BPA or, in rnds 6-7 they might slightly overdraft one if they haven’t picked one yet. Am I wrong?

  • PaoliBulldog

    Anybody besides Brooks thinks Foles will miss Avant more than Jackson?

    • aub32

      Nope

    • Maggie

      Well, let’s not forget Avant’s presence in the locker room.

    • JofreyRice

      haha, Bucky’s definitely going for the contrarian angle there. No way. Jackson had something like 60+ first down catches, right? Avant was a great Eagle, but hopefully Chip provide’s young Foles with a better option than 5 yard completions where the guy falls down immediately, so Nick doesn’t have to wish for Avant.

  • Maggie

    I just don’t get these talking heads insistence that the Eagles will take a corner in the first round!! What? Why?

    • PaoliBulldog

      The heads assume that CB is the Eagles’ most urgent need and therefore must be addressed first, regardless of available talent at other positions.

      It’s not a philosophy I expect the Birds to employ this year. Or ever.

    • Will

      A lot people believe the Eagles have a chance at grabbing a top corner at 22, while believing the top pass rushers and will safeties will be long gone by 22. In addition, the drop off in talent at safety and OLB is considered severe. Many people would also like to see Williams replaced and we lack depth at that position.

      • Maggie

        Not in first round!

        • Will

          Who easy there…. Why all the anger? I’m not trying to patronize you in any way. I was just answering your question of why people are suggesting the eagles might take a corner at 22 :/ I didn’t say it was my reasoning… You are right, we grabbed Jenkins and Nolan so we wouldn’t have to reach for those positions. However, It is very possible that the BPA at will be CB or WR.

  • bushisamoron

    trade down if your guy (whomever that is) isn’t there. Would not be surprised with a draft day trade for Dion Jordan- Kelly and Gamble love him. Graham is very good but does not belong on our team. Would not be stunned (surprised yes) to see Cole dealt as well but only after securing his replacement. I do think the birds get another draft pick along the way. Just year two of roster change over from the Fat Andy speedball days. Good f**kin’ riddance- see Bryan Smith the 225 lb DE from McNeese state who Andy picked up in the 3rd round. I think he lasted 8-9 seconds i the league.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I think Kiper is missing the point on Benjamin. 6’5″ 240lbs?? Sounds like a good OLB prospect to me. ;-)