Wake-Up Call: Coleman Backs DeSean

Eagles Safety Kurt Coleman on field helmet off
Kurt Coleman
defended former teammate DeSean Jackson on his way out the door.

Coleman, who has agreed to terms with the Vikings, joined NFL Radio on Sirius XM Monday and talked about Jackson’s release and the notion that he was a problem in the locker room.

“I think Philadelphia is going to miss him big time,” said Coleman. “I find it troubling to hear some of the stories — and I don’t know who is really putting them out there. I thought DeSean was a good guy in the locker room. He was someone I could talk to and could relate to.




"Did he kind of do his own thing? Yeah. But we kind of all do our own thing in our own way. But when it came game time I would talk to him every game and I would ask him, 'Is 10-mode on?' And there was no question. He would give 100 percent. He would take those big hits for the team. And he was one of those guys that you wanted to play every Sunday because the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought to a team is [unmatched].  I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

Coleman is the second former teammate to back Jackson in recent days. On Saturday, LeSean McCoy disputed the narrative that Jackson was a malcontent that needed to go.

"I think anybody that tells you that they’re happy about it, I don’t know how honest that would be," McCoy said.

A report by CBS Philly portrayed Jackson as "blatantly insubordinate" and quoted unnamed Eagles sources that suggested the receiver was more trouble than he was worth. That feeling was not shared by everyone in the building.

"I can't say anything bad about him," said Coleman. "I think it's unfortunate the rap that he got."

The Eagles have yet to comment on the matter.

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WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Malcolm Jenkins served in an analyst role for the NFL Network Monday and provided some candid thoughts on his new NFC East rivals, including the Cowboys and their porous defense. From Philly.com.

"A couple years ago, their scapegoat was Rob Ryan, and they got rid of him, and he was the cause of all their problems. He went to New Orleans and took the worst defense in NFL history and turned them into a top 5 defense. So he couldn’t have been the problem.

And then you look at this year, I had the best seat in the house when I watched the Saints get 40 first downs in one game. Forty. In one game. So it must be the players."

Geoff Mosher mocks Utah corner/safety Keith McGill to the Eagles in the second round.

This hybrid fits Kelly’s blueprint for tall, lengthy, athletic defensive backs. He has great size along with 33 1/4-inch arms and he clocked a 4.52 in the 40, which is exceptional for an athlete his size. McGill specializes in man-press coverage and has a Richard Sherman-like skill set.

McGill can push for a starting job at either corner or safety -- probably corner --  in Year 1 and eventually take over as a starter by 2015, after the coaches have refined his technique and footwork.

COMING UP

Twenty-three days until the draft. A lot to get to.

 

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  • cheapmeat

    Malcolm Jenkins immediately starts talking trash to the Cowboys, love it.

    • NickS1

      Hate saying it but it was the best part of this entire post.

    • GEAGLE

      Malcolm is the man….signing free agents who already hate the cowboys, sounds like a winning formula to me :)

  • NickS1

    I love when we talk about current Eagles.

  • Old Bob

    Of course DeSean has friends and people he gets along with. I would be surprised if he did not. I’m not sure why it is necessary to write an article every time one of these individuals surfaces.

  • cliff henny

    like the guy who’s been trashed, left in dumpster for years, pulled out and thrown on I-95 to be run over by almost every Eagles fan and management (was better in ’13 cause he didnt play) isn’t going to tweek the franchise just a little bit on the way out.
    .
    oh, and yeah, to all incoming draft picks and free agents…Malcolm Jenkins just gave you the blueprint on how to view Dallas…F’em, they’re garbage!

    • GEAGLE

      Keep talking trash to the cowboys and I’ll overlook the dahani jones bow ties

  • Kev_H

    “The Eagles have yet to comment on the matter” WTW?? Somebody needs to contact Vince Young for his comments. Sheesh.

  • UKEagle99

    Nice to see Malcolm taking my advice ;-)

    • Kuzzbill

      This is the type of attitude I want my safeties to have. Can’t wait for dez bryant to come over the middle.

  • ScubaSnow

    Lol I saw that Coleman had voiced his opinion and the first thing to come to my mind was “Shut up Meg!” … Peter Griffin voice and all.

    • myeaglescantwin

      hahaha,, the dinner table punch !!

  • Will

    23 days to the draft…

  • Mike J

    Maybe Kurt didn’t have a good vantage point of the offense from the sideline but…MeSean did not give 100% on every play, every game, every week…but I digress…
    Coleman is gone.
    Jackson is gone.
    Can we move on yet…

    • paul from nc

      Only if the offense doesn’t skip a beat, AND we don’t waste a pick to replace him.

  • Will

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 22: Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville (A)
    Round 2 Pick 22: Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss (A)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Deandre Coleman, DT, California (D)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (A)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Osahon Irabor, CB, Arizona State (D+)

    Two player’s who are no longer Philadelphia Eagles get over it already move on nothing to see here…

    • GEAGLE

      Will….your job is to post 20 mock drafts everytime our media tries to talk desean

    • GEAGLE

      Love the draft

  • G_WallyHunter

    This might be thé funniest title ive ever seen on birds, thanks T+S, i know you’re doing it on purpose to troll.
    Coleman (a player none of us fans care about) backs Desean (another player that none of us fans no longer care about)… Jokes

    • aub32

      Shady and Cole, two of the most loved Eagles, also backed DeSean. So yea there’s that.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Yea that’s completely irrelevant to my post as I’m referring to this article, the title not the subject of support for Desean. Good for Shady and Cole for backing Desean, I bet you can count the number of CURRENT players who support Desean on 1 possibly 2 hands

        • RIP illa

          As opposed to the number of current players who don’t back him or that are happy that he’s gone??? Last time I checked…I’ve never seen anonymous on the Eagles’ depth Chart!

          • G_WallyHunter

            Come on, obviously players aren’t going to make their name known it would just cause unwanted attention. Just look at how many people have spoken WELL about him, 4 5 maybe 6, that just goes to show.. you don’t need a couple anonymous posts to tell you he wasn’t exactly the most liked..

          • paul from nc

            It takes more guts to support him, when the team just cut him, than to come out and say they’re glad he is gone.
            How many “glad he’s gone” quotes have names attached? I can’t think of any.

          • Richard Colton

            I have. We’ve had an anonymous pass rush and safety play for about two years now.

        • aub32

          Your last sentence is purely a guess based on your own personal feelings. There is no fact to it at all. I don’t know how many players want DeSean back, but I’m not going to make up some silly stat that no one can confirm.

          • G_WallyHunter

            You’re right, just a guess based on the 4 or 5 players who have backed him. Wouldn’t consider Kelce backing him after that tweet and apparent anonymous quote that sounded exactly like him, but you’re right I can’t deny that, there’s too much unknown, so you make a guess based on given information..

          • Andy124

            fwiw, Kelce vehemently denied that he was the source of ANY anonymous quotes.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Thanks for that, never really thought it was. Just have to look at his tweet to see he didn’t exactly love desean

      • RIP illa

        You forgot Kelce (toward the end of the season) and Coop also backed him.

        Yes it’s over and done with, but not everyone in NFL locker rooms shares hive mind mentality. A guy would have to be the biggest douche in history to get everybody to hate him and probably the biggest con artist, if everybody liked him. All it does is confirm my belief that Jackson was not as bad as he has been painted, while not being a saint either.

        And I give props to Tim and Sheil for putting out articles that “balance the books”, although people wanna move on. Shows a form of integrity tha has become increasingly scarce, over the years, from journalist…Well at least to me.

        • aub32

          Fans forget that there were players that liked T.O. even during the ’05 fiasco. Just because an anonymous source speaks against a player does not automatically mean those are the feelings of 90% of the team.

          • G_WallyHunter

            No ones saying 90%, even 38% suffices as there are a large number of new players who likely don’t care either way

          • aub32

            Anything under 60% is a nonissue in my opinion. These guys aren’t forming a friendship circle. They are going to work. So what if a couple people think he’s a jerk. I dare people to point out how his play on the field hurt anyone on the team.

          • G_WallyHunter

            You just mentioned 90% I threw a number out there, 60% would be ridiculous and would have probably meant he was off the team a lot sooner. I say 38% because of that point, that no one can mention his play in their discontent with him

          • aub32

            I threw out 60% as my personal opinion. I am saying that if I had a say, which I obviously do not, then 60% still would not have been enough to warrant his release for no compensation. Especially, when his on the field play didn’t seem to be hurting the team.

          • G_WallyHunter

            You’re saying if over 30 players didn’t like him it wouldn’t warrant a release?

          • aub32

            Not for his production. I care more about results than personal feelings. Now if the team not liking him showed up on the field, i.e. Foles refusing to throw him the ball or the return team refusing to block, then that’s a different story. I didn’t see anything of the sort. Instead I saw a guy who prevented an INT or two, took coverage away from Cooper, and kept teams from stacking the box too regularly.

          • Birds4Life

            I know that everyone wants to move past the Desean situation. And when a good player is gone, everyone wants to remember the good things that player brought. But you cant say that Desean’s on field play never hurt the team. Here is a link to the interception in the Vikings game. Not to mention that he gave up after the interception and didn’t try to tackle the guy.

            http://www.thechipwagon.com/eagles/2013/12/the-interception.html
            And in his contract year when he alligator armed 2 potential TD’s in the endzone against the patriots because he didnt want to get hurt and got benched in the 4th quarter by AR. Or when he was scratched for the AZ game for missing a special teams meeting.
            Everyone wants to say that we let him go because of the money and that is probably true. He wanted more guaranteed money, Eagles weren’t going to give it to him and then Desean is out there trying not to get hurt again. Would you want to watch him plying like he did in 2011, because that is who you were probably going to see, not Desean from 2013.

          • aub32

            There’s a huge difference from his 2011 money and his 2013 money. In 2011 he was making less than 800k if I am not mistaken. That’s less than 10% of his worth. So I do not blame him for protecting himself. DeSean got paid and then performed in 2012 and 2013. He would have still been making good money in 2014. So I think we would have seen a dialed in DeSean.

          • Andy124

            Your last sentence is purely a guess based on your own personal feelings.

            Anything under 60% is a nonissue in my opinion.

            You clearly state it’s just your opinion, so I’m in no way “calling you out” or any such silliness. I just found that pair of statements, posted chronologically, to be amusing. Carry on.

          • NickS1

            I thought about pointing it out, but I moved on.

          • aub32

            I don’t see the humor. I pointed out how something that was stated as a fact was clearly an opinion. Then I stated how I feel about locker room chemistry. I did not state an opinion on how many players I think like/dislike him. I have no clue.

          • RIP illa

            Andy the editor-in-chief! Good catch. I just overlooked it and went to the bulk of what he was saying. There’s always gonna be people that like you and don’t. I just wish on field stuff could have triumphed over all this other BS.

          • Andy124

            Here’s the thing though, if there were players that liked T.O. during that disaster, and there were, that just serves as evidence that players liking a guy cannot serve as evidence that the guy isn’t a problem.

          • aub32

            That’s true. I am saying that the notion proposed by some that his relationship with his teammates was part of the reason for his release is unfounded. We all saw what the problem was with T.O. He was one of the best talents to rock the midnight green, but he had to go. However, the question surrounding the DJax release remains “Why?”. We will likely never get a straight answer, but I actually like hearing that a player that I am a fan of wasn’t some colossal jerk who was despised by his teammates.

          • Andy124

            I disagree with the word choice “unfounded” there, but totally agree with your overall point.

  • Will

    Hey Tim or Sheil could you do a piece on Andre Williams RB Boston College who led the nation in rushing…

  • aub32

    Only goes to show there is more than one side to this. Clearly reports that everyone was happy with his release was a farce. He seems to have be liked by quite a few people in that locker room.

    • Tom w

      Maybe Coleman has sour grapes. Don’t really care what he thinks. As long as the coach and captains are on board, that works for me. Let’s put this story to bed.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya if you would have bet me 1000 this mornings wake-up call was going to be about desean I’d take it every day and twice sunday

        • GEAGLE

          Yup…just like what they are saying will either be about:
          1) more worthless Desean crap
          2) even more worthless draft projections..our local media has one team to worry about, and they are SOOO clueless about our draft, yet national media who has to cover 30teams….is going to have a clue?

          Sigh

      • aub32

        Coleman wasn’t the only player to come to DeSean’s defense. Cuttrent players, some pretty high up the totem pole, have backed him as well. I’m not a fan of Coleman the player, but he seemed like a decent guy and has been on the team with DJax for years. His opinion does matter when I’m forming my opinion about how the Eagles handled this.

        • G_WallyHunter

          And that’s a good point, don’t disagree one bit. Coleman might have been poo on the field but he was here long enough to get a serious lay of the land, making his opinion more valid.
          Who do you have on your list of players who have backed him?
          I have Kendricks, Cole, Shady… I wouldn’t consider Maclins comments backing him as they were all pro-company. Haven’t heard any comments from Riley or any of the Oline, none from Celek or Avant, speaking of Avant, I’m surprised they haven’t gotten his comments yet.. I really only have those 3 but I haven’t been following as close as you so I don’t doubt there are a few more, but as I said, no more than 6 or 7

          • anon

            Celek was basically like whatever when he was interviewed on NFL network. woudn’t call what he gave support.

          • Jeff Asay

            Celek was about as inarticulate as an awkward boy asking a girl to the dance. I was embarrassed for him. Phillies probably looking to sign him for the booth.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Like a lot of players, clearly don’t care as they see the bigger picture. See its hard for players to come out and back him with the direction of the team, former players can say all they want because they aren’t a part of it. This speaks to Aubs point that we really have no idea how many players are concealing their defense of Desean in the interest of the team, so, this is why I base my opinion on those who have decided to speak up. Like I said, next week we should have at least 5 more players comments if not more, or maybe they all remain tight lipped, WHO KNOWS

          • aub32

            There is also Vick, for whatever that’s worth to some fans. I woul really like to hear Foles’ thoughts. He’s the one who will be most affected by DeSean’s departure.

          • Andy124

            Only if you spiked his (Foles) smoothie with truth serum first, because you know he’d give the most PC answer he can think of.

            And I love him for that.

          • NickS1

            I interpretted VIck’s comments to have been mixed. He seemed to support him but also noted that he had some growing up to do.

          • aub32

            I don’t think saying someone has some growing up to do is a negative. Many of us have some growing up to do. His quotes led me believe he thought DeSean had grown during his stent with the team and was a good guy that was a bit immature and misunderstood.

          • NickS1

            Yeah, usually someone having growing up to do in a professional sense is viewed as a negative. It is usually supported by some sort of action(s), typically negative in nature, perfomed by the person who needs to the growing.

          • Kev_H

            Especially for highly paid veterans on the backside of their athletic careers.

          • paul from nc

            Seriously doubt Jackson can be said to be “on the backside of his career”, since he is just coming off his most productive season.

          • Kev_H

            I didn’t think McCoy’s support was very supportive. He basically described the comfy, coddling Reid environment where established players could do whatever they want and that he (McCoy) learned it is no longer that way. It strongly implies Jackson put that to the test, supporting the reports that came out. I wonder if DeSean sent a nice “wish you were here” postcard to his new teammates last week.

          • paul from nc

            He was very supportive. Reread his comments.

          • Adam G

            Must be hard going through this comment thread and responding to every single negative Desean comment.

          • paul from nc

            You seem to reply to all mine.
            Thanks for reading

          • Adam G

            No problem. I think I’m only batting about 20% though since you have responded to about 15 of them.

          • UKEagle99

            I think if Coleman was poo on the field, opposing running backs would be less likely to run over him.

          • G_WallyHunter

            ZING!! Haha good one friend across the pond

    • Andy124

      Nah. Most damning piece of evidence against Jaccson yet:

      Coleman Backs DeSean

      Jaccson’s agent saw that and belted a primal, “NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!”

  • Tom w

    McGill is going to be 25. And likely converted to a new position. Aside from that probably a round early. Another fabulous pick by moesher lol.

    • RIP illa

      Plus he’s just not that good as a corner, from what I’ve seen. Throw him back at safety and then fine…maybe. But then there’s what you said. However, a team could get 4-5 good years out of him. That warrants a 4th round pick, at the most, for me.

    • NickS1

      Hard to not laugh at Mosher. How the guy is paid to do what he does is incredible.

      • GEAGLE

        Not really….he is horrible, but is he really any worse than the rest of our media? It’s SOOO pathetic. Like I don’t get how people have been covering this team so long, and can be so clueless…..I’m about to start a site, that just analyzes and debunks all the crap our local media writes about the eagles every week…keeping tabs on what percentage of what they write turns out to be true…let Les Bowan comes in last place…..a grading system for our local coverage, to keep track and show just how bad they are

        • NickS1

          Do it. Please.

          • GEAGLE

            Someone needs to consistently point out what a joke they are…something has to happen….we can’t consistently get such bad coverage…..what can I expect when 70% of the media thought we would draft Dee Milner with the 4th pick last year…like do people understand how cluelessly pathetic that makes them?msome of these media members have been covering the team for like a decade, how is it they never learn anything, and they never improve? Fanbase so dedicated to a team deserves better than the crap we get in this city….

          • GEAGLE

            Judgment day is coming for the philly media!!!!

        • Joe from Easton

          I’ll give you clicks all day Geags.

          • GEAGLE

            Just post the poor grades I give to that hack !es Bowan on his site every week and I’ll appreciate the support……some needs to start keeping track of the crap these idiots spew and how consistently wrong and clueless they are,…

        • myeaglescantwin

          seriously..

          i like that Chip Kelley puts them in their places when he talks.
          He doesnt speak to the media cause nothing is going on.. The media gets paid for their work. That’s why they take tid bits of information and make them into stories. Whether they are fabricated or not, the media runs with it.

          hell they can make up anything they want and put “an un-named source”. laughable.

          • GEAGLE

            The worst part is this fanbase cares so much about this team, that they don’t have to start drama and BS to get us to read…we want to know everything. We care so much, and the coverage is so pathetic that it turns of fanbase into a legion of clueless stupid zombies, the worst kind of stupid, the kind of stupid that considers itself a knowledgable fanbase…why cause we know to make noise on 3rd down? 100,000 of fans were running around thinking we would draft a bum like Dee Milner at 4…100,000 fans were running around convinced that FOles would be traded because he could never play for Chip….like how do you even still have jobs after such crap? Fanbase deserves better…yet the media will run their mouth about how we deserve better than the front office not talking to us about cutting Desean,,,why the hell would they? So ever word can be twist into crap. Jaguars media needs crap like we get to drum up interest,,.we are so crazed that the facts will suffice just fine for us, and writers would still be getting the same amount of readers as they get when they sensationalize and fabricate crap

          • GEAGLE

            Let me know when we are having the Desean funeral and this crap can b put to rest in piece til we play the skins….just imagine the coverage we will get the week we play the skins…players will be getting ready for a game and pestered by nothing but Desean crap….it’s a joke

          • myeaglescantwin

            exactly they play on our emotions.

            and worse off,, we have the legions of fans that follow it hook line and sinker.

  • Jeff Asay

    53 man roster is going to have its share of guys who liked/disliked DeSean. We may never know the real reason. In today’s workplace, the less the employer says, the less they open themselves up to a potential suit. By saying we are going in another direction, the employer gives no ammunition. Chip earned the right when he took the job to shape the roster and go to battle with his guys. That’s it. End of story. He has to go deep in the playoffs year four to keep his job. He has no time to waste.

    • Jeff Asay

      And I think some media read waaaay too much into what guys like Kelce and Maclin said earlier. Clearly some players or organization people dont like Jackson and are speaking poorly of him. Who is surprised? Anyone who hot dogs like 10 is going to have their share of detractors.

      • GEAGLE

        Maclin didn’t even speak poorly of him, it’s just media crap….if you read what Maclin says, it’s sounds bad, if you hear Maclin say it! it wasn’t at all bad….he was baffled by it, and was struggling to come up with a rason

    • aub32

      I don’t think Chip has earned the right to go unquestioned yet. His season helps smooth over the move, but he did a lot of it with Reid’s guys. He also had a season where a lot of things broke the right way. His offense didn’t really inspire a lot of confidence in it’s last two showings. This year, after facing the better teams in the league, will be his chance to become one of the coaches that’s afforded the benefit of the doubt when making moves like cutting your #1 WR.

      • Kev_H

        The move was as much about addressing the last two showings as anything.

        • aub32

          The run game was horrid against the Saints. The run D was just as bad if not worse. How does cutting DeSean help with either of those problems?

          • Joe from Easton

            Your #1 receiver needs to have a catch before the third quarter in a playoff game when all he is seeing is single high man coverage. That’s how it addresses that last game. The run D was absolutely horrendous though. I do agree with you there. The run game was equally bad, but maybe if we could have gotten the saints out of single high man coverage with a stacked box it would have been better.

          • RIP illa

            Been proven time and time again, for that game, that he can’t throw the ball to himself! He was open a good amount of times in the 1st 1/2.

          • paul from nc

            He can’t catch it if Foles is afraid to throw it to him.
            How many times was he open? Watch the replay. I love it when people say a receiver was unproductive when they do not know the game plan or the play calls.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            why is no credit ever given to the saints? they did have a much better defense than us, you know

          • Andy124

            Why? Because the only reason our run game struggled is that the OL was demoralized by DJ’s attitude. New Orleans had nothing to do with it.

          • aub32

            Ahhhh now I see. In that case I stand corrected. The Eagles could have spared themselves plenty of bad press had they just gone public with that little nugget you just dropped.

          • Andy124

            I have sources close to the situation. They’ve told me that DJ wanted to show the FO how important he was to the offense, so he secretly informed Nick Foles that if he threw any passes his way in the first half, he would intentionally deflect them in to the hands of a defender, thus the lack of first half targets and stalled offense.

            It was so upsetting that every quarterback from Austin, Texas struggled in the first half of that game. One of them even turned the ball over.

            It’s all very clear once you have all of the facts.

  • GEAGLE

    Hahahahahaha more Desean? Give it a rest…..lame!!! Desean is a skin….this is like talking about romo every single day

  • PhillySean

    Q: I’ll know the Eagles’/Former Eagles’ player/coach/staff/etc “take” on the DeSean situation is finally at an end once we’ve heard from:

    A:
    1. Rich Kotite
    2. Luis Zendejas
    3. Louie Giammona
    4. Pat Ryan
    5. Michael Haddix
    6. Other___________

    • JosephR2225

      I’ll nominate Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman for the “Other” category.

      • PhillySean

        Nice. That might have to wait for a post career interview or auto biography. I don’t see them breaking the silence any time soon.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I wanna hear what Rocky Balboa thinks

    • NickS1

      Mamula?

  • Will

    Keep opening a closed book…lol…who cares what a Viking says about a Redskin big deal move on…

    • GEAGLE

      Right…just lame Les Bowan “journalism”

    • JosephR2225

      “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
      Nothing wrong with caring about this story. It’s not every day a team says goodbye to a player of this caliber for no compensation. I am an Eagles fan and I would love to know why. I can’t imagine it was an on-field issue, and it doesn’t appear as though Desean is in any kind of trouble off the field, so what a guy who was in the locker room says about Desean as a teammate seems relevant to me.

      • GEAGLE

        Y’all love this tabloid he said she said crap

        • JosephR2225

          I don’t, actually. But what’s the alternative? The guys who have the answers aren’t talking.

          • GEAGLE

            What’s the alternative? Real news, real jpurnalism..we are In the bulk up phase of offseason, how about doing some actually work, hunting down curry, Kruger and Logan and find out how much weight they hVe put on so far? Like I get players to talk on twitter, you can’t tell me our media can’t get a stinking interview

          • JosephR2225

            Have you gotten players on Twitter to comment on why Desean Jackson is no longer an Eagle? If so, kudos.

            Curry and Kruger and Logan are important topics, but I think the departure of the Eagles second-best offensive weapon is pretty important too. I’m just saying, I won’t bemoan an article about what Kurt Coleman says about Desean Jackson. It’s an important topic related to the Eagles.

          • GEAGLE

            Haven’t tried, because I couldn’t care less….I’m worried about next year, Desean is not part of next year, so I couldn’t care less

          • JosephR2225

            That’s perfectly fair. I think it’s about more than just Desean. I think it’s about Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman and the team as a whole as well, and they all will be part of next year.

          • GEAGLE

            Kruger is the forgotten man, bet he don’t mind talking to our media…

          • Joe from Easton

            Kudos for using the phrase “couldn’t care less” correctly. I’m so sick of reading “I could care less”; so in other words you care at least somewhat?

          • GEAGLE

            My autocorrect puts Yous threw enough horrible spelling, figured I’d throw Yous a bone this morning :)

          • Layton

            You don’t care yet you took the time read the article and comment on it several times. You are as phony as the reports the Eagles put out on him..4-12 Karma. The bridge will be full at the end of the season.

          • GEAGLE

            Yes, losing Desean was a big topic…but it’s been like 3 week so f non stop Desean crap….out of curiosity, when will it be enough?

          • GEAGLE

            Lamicheal James nickname at Oregon was “baby Sproles”…how about an all 22 on how he was used at Oregon to get an idea what Chip has In store for the real Sproles?

          • swingline

            LOL!! how much weight logan and kruger “hVe” put on so far is an next level news reporting and real “jpurnalism”. I guess trash from philly.com started to migrate here too huh?

      • Kev_H

        The story was over, wrapped up, with a bow on it when it became obvious that nobody wanted his contract. If you had a mind to, you could grill every gm that isn’t on the Redskins about why they didn’t acquire Jackson, and ask every NFL player what they think of him.

        • JosephR2225

          I think that explains why the Eagles didn’t get any compensation. I don’t think it explains why they released him, or were shopping him in the first place.

          • paul from nc

            Exactly, The contract PLUS a draft pick, was a non starter for other teams. All this lock room and gang issues were a smoke screen to cover up that it was strictly a money issue.

          • Kev_H

            Because they, like all the other teams, didn’t think he was worth his contract. This isn’t new in football. High salaries on the back end of multi-year deals assure that those salaries never come to be and both sides likely expected they’d be negotiating a new deal by 2014 or 2015.

            The Eagles were likely leaning toward a salary/average annual value decrease. Every other team in the NFL agreed. Jackson indicated that he wanted more (not less) money.

            I’ll go out on a limb and say there was no way that Jackson would have happily accepted the deal he got with Washington to extend in Philadelphia or to facilitate a trade. There you go.

            I guess they could have kept him around for a year and wasted time coddling him while he agitated for a new contract and a raise, but it was pretty clear he wasn’t in the Eagles long-term plans and I expect the next three years will prove that a wise decision.

          • Adam G

            I made that same point a few weeks ago about how DJax would not have accepted that deal from the Eagles. The only way he realized he was worth less than the Eagles contract was to get released and get a new smaller contract on the open market.

        • aub32

          Of course no one wanted his contract. Who could afford it that far into FA? Plus it was evident the team would release him. Why give up compensation for him?

          • Adam G

            Nobody wanted his contract AT ANY POINT. They tried to trade him and failed.

          • Amar (India)

            Well, who gave that contract to Desean when he wasn’t putting up career numbers ? If it was Howie, shouldn’t we lose a little faith in him for that ?

          • Adam G

            Contract was always seen as a 2 year with a renegotiating point. Although it was just a release point instead.

          • Kev_H

            1. Jackson was shopped and released in March. Free agency started in March, no?

            2. Why give up compensation? To acquire him. If he was worth his contract, several teams would be willing to give up picks or players to get 3 years of DeSean Jackson. Only one team gets him. If he’s all that, every other GM that failed to land him should be on the hot seat because the could have had him for a pick.

          • aub32

            So you really are going to try to feign ignorance to prove a point? We all know that majority of money for FAs is spent in the 1st week. A good bit more of it goes in the 2nd week. There’s no comparison whatsoever for the money teams have to spend before and after the first 2 weeks of FA.

  • oreofestar

    In other news Marcus Smith is visiting

    • GEAGLE

      Bet Chip loves him, and will be one of the top 3 OLB we target

  • Will

    The latest Eagles news DE Marcus Smith to be in for a visit…

  • Scott J

    For those keeping track, so far Jackson’s best friend on the team and a disgruntled ex-Eagle has defended him.

    • paul from nc

      Keeping track,
      two quotes of a named source, support him.
      Zero from a named source, against him

  • GEAGLE

    By now it should be clear that you can ask every single eagle. And we won’t get to the bottom of this, so what’s the point? If anything, take an annonymous pole of all our players and find out what percentage are with or against losing Desean? Players aren’t going to say much on record, so wtf is the point?

  • Adam G

    Only big hit Desean ever took was Dunta Robinson. I would never classify Desean as taking big hits for the Eagles, in fact I would say its the exact opposite.

    • aub32

      What about the hit he took from Reed? It’s the NFL, and he played for 6 years. He took more than one big hit.

      • Andy124

        … from the bong pipe.

        • aub32

          Weed jokes? That’s right behind potty jokes and “that’s what she said”. I expected something a little more creative from you.

          • NickS1

            I enjoyed the loose Cypress Hill reference.

          • Andy124

            I have no idea when I would have raised your expectations to such lofty heights. I drop a twss every chance I get.

            You don’t seem very lighthearted this morning lol.

          • CJ

            “I expected something a little more creative from you”…..That’s what she said

        • GEAGLE

          Weed jokes are always welcome and encouraged!!!

      • Adam G

        Yeah, maybe a couple. But I would never describe Desean as “taking big hits for the team”. That’s basically the opposite of the type of player he is.

        • Andy124

          Them’s fightin’ words.

    • NickS1

      Yeah, I’d say he’s pretty darn good at getting to the sideline.

      • GEAGLE

        Who gets out of bounds faster? Desean after a catch? Or DRC when the running back is coming at him?

        • NickS1

          Pretty sure you just called Chip “Queen” in Dothraky… Speaking of GOT. Sunday was almost perfect, except that it happened to quickly. He deserved to be “Theoned”.

          • GEAGLE

            LOL YES!!! NOT sure how FOles feels about being castrated

          • NickS1

            Yeah, he probably doesn’t feel too good about it. I think Foles is more like Jon Snow, only with more self awareness.

          • GEAGLE

            Howie is the imp

          • NickS1

            Gamble is Tywin…. Would that make Lurie more like Jofrey? Or Jamie? Who the hell am I kidding? Chip would be Tywin, especially if Lurie is Joffrey and Howie is Tyrion. Gamble is like Varys or Baelish.

          • peteike

            totally agree was hoping for a much jucier revenge laden death. I actually cant wait for Joffreys mom to get hers, they better make that one sweet

          • NickS1

            I can’t even speak of the things that she deserves.

    • RIP illa

      Ed Reed in 2012 v B-More

      • Uncle Wonder

        I remember that…big hit on the sideline when he was extending to make the catch…i thought he was dead til he got up and started doin pushups lol

        • RIP illa

          Still wondering how there was no flag thrown on that play. SMH…That was the season when the refs had it out for us, so to speak. And that a-hole ex-official, who does the replay analysis for Fox, was leading the way throwing jabs and digs at Reid and our squad.

      • Adam G

        I’m sorry 2 hits. I’m going to go out on a limb and say a WR who takes 2 hits in 6 years is not so much a guy who “takes big hits for the team”. Looked like he was allergic to contact sometimes.

        • anon

          i guess you got what you wanted. Self tacklin maclin. few people on this team we were willing to hit or get hit during the reid era. djax is gone, why speak ill of the dead?

        • RIP illa

          Are you mad that Coleman said that? Does it really matter? I’m not getting or understanding the reason for your hate? I’d prefer my WRs not to take big hits at all, in an ideal world. However, if they must, then as long as they hold onto the ball then it’s all good. I fail to see how only taking “2 hits”, is a bad thing. Now being afraid to take a hit and selling out your team is a different story. We saw a year of Djax doing that, and I don’t condone it. But throughout his career, with us, it has not been a real issue.

          • Adam G

            My whole point is that it kind of discredits everything he is saying because, like I said, Desean is not that kind of guy who is taking big hits for the team. Lends more to Kurt just saying nice things to say them. I’m not mad at all, it just means zero. And yes, I would prefer a WR who is a little more physical. The best WRs in the league certainly do not shy away from contact except for AJ Green. And the name Mesean came from somewhere, not just out of thin air. Guy was out for himself way more than the team.

          • paul from nc

            Your repeating it over and over, doesn’t make it true.
            He took his fair share over the years. Just because you don’t like him, is no reason to downplay his game.

          • Adam G

            Just by saying “he took his fair share over the years” doesn’t make it not true. How on earth you could say he took a lot of hits is mind boggling. Do you even watch Eagles games in NC?

          • paul from nc

            I said watch the games. He did take a lot of hits.
            And yes I saw 16 of the 17 games last year.

          • Adam G

            So you are the only one that thinks he takes a lot of hits besides Kurt Coleman. Seriously, not one other person would say he takes a lot of hits. He avoids hits all the time. If he took a lot of hits as a 160 lb wr he would be dead.

    • paul from nc

      Have you watched any of the games?

      • Adam G

        You mean where the commenters below have identified one other hit? Just two. In 6 years. 2 hits he’s taken. Let’s not make Desean into something he was not.

  • knighn

    #1 reason DeSean Jackson was released: MONEY
    He was going to make too much money compared to his actual value to the Eagles / NFL.
    If DeSean was actually worth more, the Redskins would have paid him MORE than what the Eagles were going to pay him in 2014-2015…. NOT less. This is the Redskins that we’re talking about: they historically overpay free agents… and DeSean still couldn’t make as much with them as he might have made with the Eagles.
    ———————
    I am sure that there were a number of other reasons that DeSean was gone. I maintain that his measurables remain one of those big reasons and I actually will be very surprised if DeSean every puts up more than 1300 yards in a season again… for the rest of his career.

    • CSA

      I understand what you’re saying but I don’t think that can be true.

      He played for 2 years under that huge contract. He had the best year of his career under Chip Kelly. It’s plausible to argue that DeSean was a bad locker-room guy but I don’t think his value went down as his performance went up.

      It has got to come back to DeSean the person and not #10 the player.

      • knighn

        Perhaps it’s the market. Perhaps there is something about DeSean’s performance that teams measure but you and I don’t. For example: the Eagles actually measure velocity and acceleration in practice. I’m willing to bet that they do it on the actual field, too. Has DeSean lost a step? Not that I’ve seen but I don’t actually measure that.

        For whatever reason (see numbers in response to “paul from NC”) DeSean is essentially worth less now, after a career year, after an increase to the salary cap, even to the Redskins, than he was two years ago to the Eagles. Perhaps his personality makes him worth less than two years ago? Perhaps it’s the locker room and off-the-field stuff? But whatever it is: the NFL simply seems to be saying that DeSean is not worth as much as he was before. Weird, huh?

    • paul from nc

      I’d say 16MM guaranteed, trumps what the Eagles contract had left.
      Any team can void any contract anytime, so future unguaranteed money means nothing.

      How many long term deals ever go to the end? Very very few. It’s all for show, they either get renegotiated or they cut the player.

      • Adam G

        That’s nonsense. Desean was getting 10 mil guaranteed after first day of season. You’re argument doesn’t hold weight at all. He was making 2 mil more a year than what he was worth, therefore he was overpaid.

      • knighn

        Adam G covers it. DeSean was getting $10.5 mil total this year. All he had to do was show up… or even if he got hurt during training camp or pre-season he still would get $10.5 mil just for this year.

        His contract already paid him over $17 mil just for the last two years (with $15 mil guaranteed). So DeSean is essentially worth less now than two years ago, on the open market (with a salary cap that is $13 million higher than it was two years ago), to the Redskins… who historically overpay free agents.

        For whatever reason: DeSean just isn’t worth now what he was two years ago.

  • oreofestar

    Damn we are like 3 weeks away from the draft….f*** Desean for now its all bout the draft I have been looking into Ronald Powell after hearing we have interest I like him

    • GEAGLE

      Offseason is hard enough as it is for a fan, yet two weeks after Desean signs with a. Rival, I’m still waking up and getting my nose rubbed in it every day? And for what? Kurt friggin Coleman? We haven’t cared about what he has said for 4 years, and we use this chumps comments to further rub our noses In the loss of Desean? You might as well just post a headline that says: Good Morning A$$holes, enjoy your morning coffee lol

      • NickS1

        Has Kurt even said anything in the last four years?

        • GEAGLE

          Actually, yeah, he never stops running his mouth going on and on about some delusional crap about how he is the best…..he never stops talking. we just care so little that it doesn’t even register :)

        • UKEagle99

          “Where’s my helmet?”

          • Andy124

            Nah. He never needed that.

          • UKEagle99

            I was referring to this :D

          • Andy124

            Awesome. Must suck to be on the bad side of Trent Richardson’s one career highlight.

        • JohnA

          Would anyone have cared if he did?? Doubt it.

      • oreofestar

        Watching Total access cuz of Jenkins yesterday was painful they won’t stop

        • JohnA

          Was anyone interested??

  • NickS1

    Tim, were the clicks lacking yesterday? Is that why we have to endure more DeSean nonsense?

  • John E. Zang

    Love how Coleman (generally considered quiet to the media) opens his mouth after he’s shown the door. Would he be saying this had he have been signed by Philly? Absolutely not. Have fun losing in the oh so attractive state of Minnesota.

    • Bert’s Bells

      He was interviewed because of his new contract. Nobody would put a microphone in front of him as a fourth string safety, even in Philadelphia.

      It’s not like his press agent is sending out “available for interview” memos on DeSean Jackson.

      • JohnA

        At this point they’re probably trying to interview the janitors at the Linc just to throw in another question on DJ.

    • paul from nc

      Yes, current players (except McCoy) will all be willing to say the powers to be made a mistake. What makes you think they would do that? The Eagles have shown over the years that will will cut a player in a minute, for whatever reason they want.
      This year Mathis was reported as wanting a new contract, what did Howie say? I haven’t heard anymore from Mathis since.

  • GEAGLE

    We always complain about drafting Mamula over Sapp and BG instead of Earl…

    Why does Shawn Andrews over Wilfork always get a pass? So many GMs labeled Andrews as someone who didn’t love the game….Wilfork today is still a force

    Heard some interesting stories yesterday about draft under Andy and how our power structure was screwed up…something like Andy was In charge, but he had to give two pick to banner for him to make so we would give that idiot like a 4th round pick…basically different people had the final say over different pic…it’s not like one person had the final say over an entire draft….sounds dysfunctional to me

    However I will always be thankful to Andy for the 2012 draft….a lot of different voices in the war room were arguing for who they wanted to draft in the 3rd round, it was a highly debated pick…Andy walks up to the big board, takes a card off, and throw it on the table, pulled a power move and told everyone to basically shut up, because Nick FOles was our guy!!!

    • oreofestar

      man that was a good class… If we continue to have drafts 2012-2013 and better we will e good but Andy had Desean, Kelce, Maclin and Mccoy are the only good players they drafted from 2008-2011

    • Kuzzbill

      Shawn Andrews was a great pick!…for 3 years. Andy did leave us with a few presents, Foles being one of them.

      • GEAGLE

        If you trade up for a first round pick and you don’t get 8 good years of service, it’s a bad pick

        • Kuzzbill

          Wish Andrews wasnt such a head case… couldve been a great player. But youre right, having wilfork here wouldve been incredible

      • oreofestar

        Andrews pick does not compare to some of the horrible picks he made

        • Kuzzbill

          You didnt like Teo’Neshiem?

          • GEAGLE

            God…you mean the kid who literally admitted he was laying down staring at his ceiling when Andy called to tell him we drafted him? No, I didn’t just make that up

        • Richard Colton

          Loved his game until he started getting his Michael Phelps on

    • JosephR2225

      I thought now that Andy and Banner are gone we agreed to call 2012 the first Howie Roseman draft.

      • GEAGLE

        Lol…yes! But I have taken enough shots at Andy to give the devil his due. Can’t take the FOles pick away from him…ask Howie, bet he doesn’t take credit for the FOles pick

        • JohnA

          Wanna bet Andy wishes he could’ve taken Nick with him?

    • paul from nc

      Link??????

  • Mark

    Like any pro athlete is going to bash a former teammate after signing with a new team…most of them are smart enough not to say anything disparaging, this doesn’t mean nothing happened, IMO.

    • paul from nc

      Unless they are an anonymous source.
      We’d had tons of that over the Jackson situation. Now the question remains did they actually say it or did the media just write it. In this town, who knows.
      I put more credence in the quotes that have a name to them.

  • GEAGLE

    Shawn Andrews was labeled as someone who had all the talent in the world but didn’t love the game

    Desean was easily a first round pick, but all the intangible crap we dealt with was known and it dropped him into round two, he was on the board when we picked and we basically couldn’t turn down that type of round 1 talent…

    Two players we got some quality years out of, but didnt get the 8 good years out of that would constitute a good first or second round pick…and it wasn’t for lack of talent and ability…

    APPRECIATE how much emphasis this regime puts into the interview process! Making sure we draft kids who breathe this game, have that borderline insane drive to work towards excellence….this regime won’t be drafting the Deseans and Shawn Andrews of the world, and it may look like a mistake initially, but 4 years down the road it will probably prove to be the right move..this isn’t the NBA where one player makes a difference..we need complete cohesion and commitment to even have a chance at greatness,and I appreciate how important it is to this regime…

    Kyle Van Noy….come on down!!!!

    • Kuzzbill

      Even looking at all our free agent signings. High Character, Film rat type guys who love football and playing on a team. Former team captains, locker room favorites. Thats the kind of team I want to build.

      • GEAGLE

        Talent is important…..but without what you describe, you literally don’t have a chance to be an elite team, the best you will be is the Lions. Just look at he cowboys…we were supposed to fear their talent for the past 5 years lol

  • dante

    Why is this Desean Jackson questions still going on?? Who cares what Coleman thinks anyway because the team sure want miss him and its funny how he comments on the situation now he just signed with another team..move on please!! We tired of this story let’s talk about players that’s actually on the team please!!!

  • TheCatalyst

    “Coleman, who has agreed to terms with the Vikings…”, do I need to read further?

  • myeaglescantwin

    it doesnt matter what the Eagles players try to tell us.. “he always gave 100%”

    ??????????????? really?

    like the year he basically quit on the team over guaranteed money?
    like when he quit on routes when he saw a safety over the top?
    like when he spent two minutes screaming at the coaches in MINN?
    like when he quit on the field because of under thrown pass??

    Philly loved his production, but we knew what DeSean was.
    If they were blunt and truthful about the release, the city would have accepted it.

    & furthermore,, who the hell is Curt Coleman?

    • GEAGLE

      Coleman,Kurt……crip killer…this site needs to stop promoting gang activity!! :)

      • myeaglescantwin

        ahhahahahahah

        thank you

  • Explorer51

    Not sure why Birds 24/7 continues their morbid fascination with Jackson; who cares what one guy who wasn’t re-signed thinks about another who was let go? If it’s thought to be “news” what Coleman thinks (can’t remember him being quoted here during his time with the team), it’s certainly not a headline. I’ve been with Birds 24/7 since Day 1 but this Jackson love-fest is boring and tiresome.

    • GEAGLE

      I would honestly prefer and respect an open thread more..”.and it will still get the same exact amount of comments

  • morgan c

    Kurt Coleman. I’m sure a good person. Atrocious football player. Have fun in Minnesota! Maybe you can join DeSean in Washington later on in your career, playing for the amazing Dan Snyder!

    • paul from nc

      He was not talented, but if the rest of the secondary had his heart, we’d be a lot better off.

  • myeaglescantwin

    Only Andy Reid would believe a 7th rounder should start at FS..
    what a joke. The sooner we are rid of Matthews, Graham & Allen the better. Seeing those suckers in midnight green gets me thinking of all the missed opportunities of that era, & it makes my stomach turn.

    • JohnA

      Allen is probably the best tackler of any Eagles safety since Dawkins, if a little of that rubs off on Jenkins and Wolff then we will be glad he was there another year. But yeah, he’s almost used up.

      • myeaglescantwin

        i personally feel that Allen was given a raw deal.. When he came out that rookie year, he was impressive and fundamentally sound. then he got injured and had to sit. . The following seasons, he had a group of clowns put in front of him that blew assignment after assignment. Those CB’s would simply let WRs fly past them uninterrupted. No recovery speed in the league is going to make you cover 30 yds when a corner lets his man waltz on bye on a fly route UNTOUCHED. Thanx Juan,

  • GEAGLE

    McShay just said he just figured out why our pass rush sucks…we have all the “wrong brothers: Casey instead of clay(he called caseyo be of the epic overdrafts in recent history), Emmanuel instead of same Acho, baby Kruger”,…..you should figured this out McShay?

  • GEAGLE

    Albert Breer spent time with eagles yesterday for NFL network segment…suggest checking out the nuggets he came away with…nothing earth shattering, but talks about Deseans pay structure sending bad message to young players,,,how we have been in full on, figure out who fits chips culture mode which is why we threw money at guys like peters, Coop and kelce(chips building an army of unsullied soldiers)….we need a safety to be able to be what Meco is to our front 7 while also having flexibility to play like a CB…Jenkins is thought to be that guy..Chip looks as skill positions as a hole, thinking Ertz/Sproles can compensate for Avant and Desean….which doesn’t sound that crazy to me

    • NickS1

      link?

    • JohnA

      I agree. In fact everyone seems to assume that the *huge* jump in DJ’s numbers from ’12 to ’13 had nothing to do with the system but everything to do with him. If it was only 50/50 then we might just see Maclin rack up similar totals by himself. The Birds might even end up the #1 offense if so. “If.” It might be.

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    “I think it’s unfortunate the rap that he got.”

    yea, I’d say his rapping was pretty unfortunate too

  • DEBO 215

    Jenkins is spot on. Jerry Jones is a moron. You fire Rex Ryan and hire Monte Kiffin to run the Tampa 2? They didn’t have the personnel for Kiffins D, not to mention it’s dated and is easily beaten at this point. The Saints had a top 5 D last year under Ryan.
    Coleman is a third string safety/special teams player on a second rate team. I couldn’t care less what he has to say about anything really…

  • Philip Soloninka

    “I think it’s unfortunate the rap that he got.”

    Diamonds on my neck?

  • JohnA

    Maybe DJ got traded for bad breath. Makes as much sense as any of these crazy overblown rumors. Sure rumors spread since so little is said “officially” but I’m starting to think it really was simple business. It’d be a big shock if egos didn’t factor in at all but maybe it was just the money. Chip figured he could save a few (million) bucks with the same offensive output, and if he is right we’ll all be calling him Coach Kelly for a long time to come. After last year I got a hunch i can trust his hunches.

    Sure $6M in dead money this year sucks- but only if you’re planning on spending it now and that’s $6M that will still be there next year all the same. Sure a trade for DJ could’ve been better for the team but by releasing him he actually got a big boost in *guarantied* money from Washington. They might’ve done that in part NOT to screw him. We might never know and either way he’s gone. Next topic.

  • Casey Collier

    Alright already………. cripes, the surly Jackson is gone, move on.

  • McCoy+sproles=Super Bowl

    Coleman- me and desean did things are way well to tell you the truth your not a coach in the first place thank goodness chip Kelly got rid up these two bastards go EAGLES!!