Ten Points: Closing The Book On DeSean

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DeSean Jackson took questions from the Washington-area media yesterday after signing a three-year deal with the Redskins.

And so begins a new chapter in the wide receiver’s life.




The Eagles, meanwhile, remain silent. I know that doesn't bother some of you, while others would like to hear from Chip Kelly about why the made the decision to release Jackson.

We've covered the whole saga extensively for the last month or so, and I understand there is some DeSean fatigue around these parts. But it's become the story of the offseason for the Eagles. So before we start getting into full draft mode and moving on to other issues, here are 10 points I have to make to separate some myths from reality.

1. When you step back and take a look at the big picture, the Eagles got nothing in return for a 27-year-old wide receiver who was one of three players in the league (Calvin Johnson, Josh Gordon the others) to catch 80+ balls, average at least 16.0 YPR and score nine TDs last season. You could certainly make the argument that selling high was an avenue worth exploring. But the team didn't sell high; they didn't sell at all.

The obstacles to a potential trade have been well-documented. Most notably, Jackson carried a $10.75 million cap hit in 2014. But given that the Redskins just gave him $16 million in guaranteed money, it's fair to wonder whether the Eagles panicked in letting him go when they did. They explored trade options at the owners meetings, waited for the NJ.com story to come out and released him 35 minutes later. Why not see how things played out until the draft and try to get something back in return? Maybe there still would have been no takers, but at least they would have given themselves more of a shot. If the plan all offseason was to part ways with Jackson, it's tough to label the execution of the plan as anything but a failure.

2. By all accounts, this wide receiver class is loaded. However, finding a rookie to come close to matching Jackson's production in 2014 will be difficult. In the last 10 years, four wide receivers (Michael Clayton, A.J. Green, Keenan Allen and Marques Colston) have had 1,000-yard seasons as rookies. Only two (Clayton and Eddie Royal) have had 80+ catches. And only two (Mike Williams and Lee Evans) have had nine touchdowns or more. It's a position where guys don't often burst onto the scene and take the league by storm as rookies. I fully expect the Eagles to take a receiver (maybe two?) in the draft, and maybe they'll contribute right away. But based on history, it'd be smart to temper some of those expectations.

3. It's tough for me to buy some of the anti-Jackson arguments. Most notably, that he was an enormous locker room distraction or that he would be a bad influence on his younger teammates. If Jackson was late to all these meetings and clashed with the coaching staff, where was the discipline from Chip Kelly? As far as I can tell, he was never suspended for a game or even a quarter. He showed up and participated in the offseason program when others (Cary Williams) did not. He had a career year; the offense set records; and the team won the division at 10-6.

As for the influence on younger players, what I've learned over the years is that not all 53 guys have to get along. In fact, that's never going to happen. Jackson didn't seem to have a lot of close friends on the team. But these are grown men who have jobs to do. And football is their livelihood. Just because they're not sitting around a camp-fire holding hands doesn't mean the on-field product is doomed to fail.

4. Having said that, Jackson should not be made out to be a saint. The team was concerned with his maturity issues, some of his off-the-field associations and him not always buying in. Tim went into greater detail yesterday, pointing out that even those close to Jackson have their concerns about him. And clearly, he did not handle his contract situation the right way in 2011. Jackson is 27 and has $16 million guaranteed coming his way. He's in a good spot to have a productive career going forward. If that doesn't happen, it'll be on him.

5. Moving to on-the-field stuff, the idea that Jackson is a one-trick pony is off-base. His best strength is as a vertical threat who takes the top off the defense. But that's not his only strength:

Jackson made plays in a variety of ways last year. When cornerbacks played off, he took advantage on hitches, screens, comebacks, etc. Kelly did a great job of maximizing Jackson's touches within the structure of the offense. That's why he set a career-high with 82 catches.

6. Keeping with that point, though, the idea that Jackson was a nobody before Kelly is ludicrous. In 2009 and 2010, he averaged 77.1 and 75.4 yards, respectively. Last year, he averaged 83.3. Jackson was distracted by contract issues in 2011, and 2012 was a wash because of a decimated offensive line and poor quarterback play. Even then, people forget that Jackson was on pace for 1,018 yards before suffering an injury.

We wrote extensively about Kelly's scheme during the season. It was fun to watch and exceeded pretty much everyone's expectations in 2013. But the idea that the system can make up for a lack of talent is dangerous. The two go hand in hand. When what's written on the chalkboard (or diagrammed on the iPad) doesn't go according to plan, it's up to the guys on the field to make plays and win one-on-one matchups. There's no doubt that Kelly got the most out of his offensive players (Nick Foles, Jackson, LeSean McCoy, Riley Cooper) in 2013. Ultimately, he was the one who decided Jackson was replaceable and more trouble than he was worth. Now he will have to prove that he made the right call.

7. Interesting Tweet from Jason Kelce about the run game:

I agree with Kelce here. Granted, even when teams played with one high safety, that guy had to be deep because of Jackson's speed. But most defenses prioritized stopping McCoy and the run game last year when facing the Eagles. With Jackson out of the picture, that's not going to change in 2014. Kelly will have to continue to come up with creative ways to get McCoy going, but he did that effectively last season.

The more important question will be: When teams load up on the run, will the Eagles still be able to make them pay with big plays downfield in the passing game? We've repeated this stat several times, but the Eagles led the NFL in pass plays of 20+ yards last season.

8. Somewhere along the line, I heard the argument that Foles was better throwing to Cooper than Jackson.

Huh?

Thanks to friend of the blog Derek Sarley for digging up the numbers.

Foles completed 50 of 71 passes (70.4 percent) for 808 yards and seven TDs to Jackson.

He completed 34 of 57 (59.6 percent) for 673 yards and seven TDs to Cooper.

The truth is Foles was money to every receiver he targeted last year. But to suggest he and Jackson didn't have great chemistry is silly.

9. I think we have to be careful when discussing money as the primary reason for cutting Jackson. If you want to make the argument that Kelly didn't see the value in dealing with Jackson at his current cost, that's fine. Although I would say that he seemed like he wanted Jackson gone regardless of the price.

But if you're making the argument that the Eagles released Jackson so that they could make other moves, I don't buy it. First of all, look at the timing. The Eagles aren't in position to go out and sign other pieces now that they shed Jackson's salary. Free agency is over. And they haven't made a lot of moves to suggest they're worried about their current payroll (trading for Darren Sproles, signing Mark Sanchez, keeping James Casey on the roster, not asking DeMeco Ryans to take a pay cut).

As for next offseason, there are plenty of guys they can release to create cap space if that's an issue. Some possibilities, via Over the Cap, include: Trent Cole ($8.43M), Ryans ($6.9M), Williams ($6.5M), Brent Celek ($4.8M) and Casey ($4M). Those decisions will come down to who the Eagles have as replacements and how the current players perform in 2014. But there are options.

Which is a long way of saying I still think the primary reason for releasing Jackson was Kelly didn't want him around. As the head coach and the guy with final say on the 53-man roster, that's his prerogative.

[Let's add a little bit of levity to the situation, shall we?]

10. As for the Eagles staying quiet, I understand the decision. They announced the move 35 minutes after the NJ.com gang affiliation story came out, knowing full well that it would provide some cover for an unpopular move.

Again, I know many of you don't care, but that doesn't seem like the best way to conduct business. You made a bold decision. Show confidence in it and explain it to the paying customers. It could be as simple as saying:

"We want players who fit what we're trying to build here and are making moves that we think will move the organization closer to a Super Bowl."

Some variation of that would suffice.

Instead, everyone is left to come up with their own theories and conclusions, and the organization looks like it might have something to hide. Maybe in due time, we'll find out more about why they're choosing to stay silent.

But for now, fans are left to either give Howie Roseman, Jeffrey Lurie and Kelly the benefit of the doubt or question the direction of the franchise after a promising 2013 campaign.

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  • Brazilnut

    I just don’t see the Eagles ever giving a comment on the situation, especially with all the backlash seen so far. At this point any explanation would be viewed as them trying to “bad mouth” Jackson.

    • Johnny Domino

      I think we will see little bad-mouthing and more damning with faint praise.

    • Jarrod

      Agreed, they released their statement “we decided to move on from DeSean Jackson”. They decided, they don’t care what we think, they know what they know, end of story.

  • GEAGLE

    Hahahaha classic!! I was just so hype to see a new article…and it’s Desean. Amazing

  • Jonzee72

    Regarding point 2 (finding someone to match DeSean’s production), don’t forget we have Maclin back this year. Yeah he may not be as productive as DeSean, but he will probably be better than most rookie WRs

  • Johnny Domino

    “closing the book ….”

    From your keyboard to God’s monitor, let it be so!

  • Joe from Easton

    They’re counting on Maclin to replace DJax’s production and drafting a young gun who can contribute better than Avant did last year. If Maclin replaces 80% of DJax’s production (1332 * 0.8 = 1065) and a stud round one rookie is 30% more productive than avant (447 / 0.7 = 638) then you get 1779 yds between the two from last year and 1703 yds between the two this year. That’s almost a wash and hoping cooper breaks even then you’re no worse off.

    Chip wants the players he wants and I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt this year. If we regress and the offense is no longer explosive then it’s off with his head next year!

    • ceedubya9

      I do think the offense would have been better with Jackson still in it. However, I expect the offense to still be good. Hopefully Maclin doesn’t experience any setbacks.

    • Brazilnut

      I don’t understand the thought process of “finding a rookie to come close to matching Jackson’s production in 2014 will be difficult.” A rookie isn’t going to straight up swap for Desean, but between Sproles, Maclin, Benn, Ertz developing and a rookie to be named later, I don’t see it being that hard to replace Jackson+Avants production.

    • Coatesvillain

      I don’t get why people are focused on the numbers. It’s not about replacing his production. Numbers change from season to season what is important is their context. They need to replace what he brought to the offense not the stats he put up.

      • Joe from Easton

        I agree to an extent.

        Counter to that I also think that he brought something to the offense that may not be in Chip’s long term game plan. In other words, Chip used what he had and what he had was a great deep threat. He predicated his offense around that because he is known to be able to adapt to personnel.

        With that said I think that Chip would prefer to stretch the field horizontally over vertically and that requires players who can make plays after the catch. DJax, for all of his speed, isn’t a great YAC guy unless he catches the ball down field, behind most of the defense. Chip wants guys who can catch a bubble screen and rumble 10 yards behind their blockers where DJax would run out of bounds. He also wants guys that allow his QB to play the numbers game and audible runs to either side and with DJax on one side it’s hard to run that way. He gave maximum effort, but he just can’t block NFL corners.

        Chip knows what he wants and if he wanted a “take the top off” deep threat then DJax would still be an Eagle. He doesn’t need someone to replace the dynamic that DJax brought because the offense he runs doesn’t require it. He just did it last year because that is what he had.

        This is all pure speculation, but I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.

        • Coatesvillain

          I think that’s a fair assessment, but I feel Chip wants to do both. You can only stretch so far horizontally.

          But overall I agree with what you’re saying.

  • Will

    Shiel I think it was pretty clear…CK did not want him around his younger player’s …They cut DeSean before off season work outs started….

    • #7

      Dude please don’t make Sproles out to be some savior. Brees said that Sproles was a “once every 10 years player”, but if you look at the numbers, he’s been in a bit of a decline. Sure, he can help us, but you and a lot of people are setting your expectations for him too high. Maclin too. In CK you trust? Well CK still needs talent is the scheme is nothing

      • Will

        Since 2004 I watch AR run this team into the ground…So please if you do not support CHIP KELLY F**K OFF ….1 bad apple spoils the bunch….We will continue to change into what CK wants…Player’s better be on there toes and mind there peas and Q’s .Chip is no joke the MAN hates losing…DeSean just blew him off didn’t even bother to go to his exit interview…not to mention that after losing a play off game his head is about a new contract….

        So if you has a FAN don’t buy in go root for another team..CK is a proven Winner…it gonna take a few seasons but we are gonna be a team to be reckon with in the end…I see a Super Bowl Appearance in our future…

        • #7

          Keep thinking Chip Kelly can do no wrong dumb ass idiot lol since you want to curse. And I’ll keep the avatar since you wanna talk shit woman

          • Adam G

            Maybe you should go here:

            http://forums.theganggreen.com/

          • #7

            Thanks!

          • Will

            Just like CK was an upgrade to AR we will have an upgrade at WR in the end…Well I hung up my Vick Jersey with all the other past player’s I have..I apologize for going full tilt took exception to the Savior remark…CK is human…but he’s my Team’s Head Coach…you enjoy watching AR player’s hitting the bricks and a real football team built for winning grow before your eyes…

          • #7

            I never said that I was against Chip, but just because he’s the HC doesn’t mean that I have to like all of his moves. Seems to me that we could release #25 for nothing in return and you would still say “in CK you trust”. Not me. And for you to say that CK is an upgrade over AR after 14 years of winning is laughable. AR can coach circles around CK mainly on experience alone. You really can’t compare the two since this is CK’s 2nd year in the league.

            I don’t like the move and a lot of you people are doing everything that you can to rationalize his departure, which I understand. As far as the name calling, you don’t want to go there…

          • Adam G

            Think you could not be more off. Andy Reid was ahead of the curve when he first started coaching, and road of the coattails of a great D. Which is exactly what he did last year. Chip took a team that was 4-12 under Andy and went 10-6.

          • #7

            A team that you all said that would not make the PO’s while I said that we would, right?

            Who built that roster? Andy Reid.

            Please don’t forget that entire offensive line was injured besides Mathis. Any coach that stays in one place for 14 years is bound to get stale and people will say that “he can’t coach”.

            Cmon man. Give respect where it’s due. You people throw people in the trash too quickly. I’ll always have respect for AR

          • Adam G

            I think it got stale because his offensive calls got stale. Like I said, he was way ahead of the curve when it came to passing, but the league caught up with him. I think he was always a mediocre in game adjuster. He currently is not a good coach and his offense in KC was average at best. Eagles would not have made those NFC Championships without their D. And no coach was more stubborn than him.

          • Brazilnut

            KC offense was average at best with only a single decent weapon. For what he had to work with, their O was very productive, especially late in the season.

          • #7

            Thank you. Good to see some football knowledge on here. Andy didn’t have a lot to work with in KC. I would say that is great coaching

          • Adam G

            Decent? Could make argument Charles was most explosive RB in league last year, even more so than Shady. Alex Smith was competent, and magically Dwayne Bowe had his worst year. Stop defending him.

          • Brazilnut

            You misunderstood. I wasn’t implying that Charles was decent, just that he was the only weapon that was decent or above. Overall their offensive core was very lacking.

          • Adam G

            Yet, Chip made Foles look like Joe Montana. Its up to the coach to maximize his talent. I’d like one piece of evidence that Andy Reid is a decent offensive coach now or recently.

          • Brazilnut

            You’re kidding, right? With almost no weapons they still managed to be fairly productive on offense. 1 game less than 10 points, 3 less than 20 points, most of the games range from 23-35, 2 40 point games (including their playoff game) and a 50 burger. For a predominantly defensive team thats more than enough. If Reid didn’t lose his only weapon in the playoff game they would have beaten the colts. Andy Reid isn’t a great coach but he did a good job with that offense last year.

          • Adam G

            They were an average offense, per DVOA, which adjusts for difficulty. Again, he had arguably the most dangerous RB in the NFL and a competent QB. He should’ve been able to have a better O if he is such a great coach. Lets see what happens this year. I’m guessing they will not even sniff the playoffs.

          • Brazilnut

            You’re being ridiculous. An elite RB and a competent QB is not enough to make an above average offense. The competent QB can’t even do much because he has no good WRs. If you think Jamaal Charles and Alex smith is enough to be above average with no help then you clearly don’t understand the nature of football.

          • Adam G

            And a decent O line. When did Dwayne Bowe become awful? Andy DID give him a huge contract, no? Is that not his fault?

          • Brazilnut

            “When did Dwayne Bowe become awful?”

            Last year, weren’t you watching?

          • Adam G

            Dude, AR was the one who gave him a MONSTER contract right before last season. So obviously he thought he was good. So whose fault is that?

          • Brazilnut

            So its Andy Reid’s fault that Dwayne Bowe shit the bed this season after showing promise his whole career? You obviously just dislike Andy Reid and want to bash him.

          • Adam G

            Again, who gave him that contract? You want to praise Reid, but he obviously thought he was good, and misused him. Can’t have it both ways.

          • Brazilnut

            Just stop man, you’re completely ignoring facts to try and bash Reid. All indications were that Bowe had the potential to develop into a #1 receiver, and there was absolutely no reason to think otherwise (at that point in time). Then Bowe relaxes with his new contract and plays badly, and you want to blame Reid.

          • Adam G

            OF COURSE. He was literally the one who made the mistake. How on earth do you absolve him of messing up the Dwayne Bowe situation?

          • Brazilnut

            Because there was absolutely no reason to believe that Bowe would do that. Jesus christ you’re really going out of your way to blame him. Players don’t work out all the time, a coach isn’t bad because a player failed to live up to expectations.

          • Will

            hey AR won a lot of games but he also lost a lot of games he should of won…pass happy with McCoy and a O-Line that loves to run block…MM & AR gave it there best shot but 1 SB appearance and McNabb pukes in the end….So I respect him…Some Coaches win Super Bowls some don’t….

          • #7

            SMH

          • Will

            I for one have not been happy with DJax or Maclin for years..in my book DJAX is a 1b Wide out and Mac is a solid # 2….If they draft a rookie who does any thing Mac may be gone next year…They are not going to cut McCoy for nothing …lol…You may have liked #10 but the team or staff was not crazy about him…AR never won a Super Bowl went 11-0 last season then what? AR is a good Coach just not good enough…a great salesman but not a closer..Give CK 14 years and we can re visited this question…

          • #7

            I doubt he lasts that long to be honest. Wouldn’t be surprised if he went back to college. I don’t hate Chip man, relax! lol. I just think that he’s really arrogant and that can hit him in the mouth…in a few months. The NFL is a tough..and humbling league.

        • Robin Wallace

          YES, exactly what I’m talking about. EAGLES!

      • Rick H

        Maybe you can call Mike Vick and ask him to come back and start for the Eagles. Oh I forgot Mike Vick grew up and is/ was a class act and most importantly pointed out tactfully that Jackson is a locker room cancer.

        • Will

          Spot on…Jets, KC both passed…MM and AR didn’t sign him says a lot…both teams could use WR’s…

        • #7

          Who on here is talking about Vick besides you?

          • Andy124

            Well, you do spam the place with pictures of him every time you show up. But you know that already.

          • Rick H

            ***I know your not talking about Vick anymore!!! Ha ha ha!***
            After Foles took over you were harder to find then Osama Bin Laden & Saddam Hussein. Were you hiding in the same hole as Saddam and wearing your “7” jersey?
            It still looks good did you wash it? Seriously pal stop fighting everybody and acknowledge how completely off base you were. It is comical at this point. No shame in being wrong if you admit it.

          • #7

            Not a Hater like you. I gave Foles credit. And I was on here the entire season. Get your facts straight.

          • Rick H

            Ha ha ha! I just saw a tweet from Marcus Vick. He wants you to hang out again tonight… I am now going to ease up on you because you are fragile!

          • #7

            Pfff you weak as hell lol. You don’t affect me at all. I’m still trying to see where Vick is the subject in this article though.

  • Brian

    I can’t stop thinking that DeSean’s release was a wish granted to DeSean, to help him get out of serious money problems. He’s humbled by the fact that he’s already blown through the millions that he’s already received. The only help would be to… A. renegotiate for more guaranteed money (hence, firing his agent who failed to renegotiate last year) or B. getting released and signing with another team.

    “It was a humbling experience for myself, me being at the peak of my career and doing some great things in this league…I’m very humble for me to be where I’m at (broke) and being able to be released like that”.

    Not gang related, not a locker room cancer, and not lazy. Just broke. In order to grant his wish, he couldn’t be traded because that wouldn’t net him any cash right now.

    • mtn_green

      I agree with Brian. Maybe it was the main reason. Don’t forget DeSean pooched 2011 with alligator arms for guaranteed money. He can do it again.

    • Adam G

      Except he would’ve gotten more money this season if he played through his Eagles contract. He got 16 mil guaranteed from Skins but 8 of that is next year. He would’ve made 2 mil more in 2014 had he stayed in Philly.

      • Brian

        However, here’s the problem, only $250,000 of his 2014 base salary was fully guaranteed.

        • Brandon Boykin, LOL

          Which is why he, when prompted by Philly media (people LOVE leaving that little factoid out), said that he would like more guaranteed money.

          • Brazilnut

            Really doesn’t make much of a difference. If you’re a player with a reputation for throwing a hissy fit over your contracts, you don’t publicly say you want a new contract (especially when you just got a new one 2 years ago). The correct answer to a question like that would be something along the lines of “I’m going to work as hard as I can on the field and hope it all works out”. He knew exactly what he was doing by making that comment.

          • anon

            Everyone assumes these howie contracts will be renegotiated after 2-3 years once the guaranteed money runs out. When Eagles didn’t restructure before FA I think that was a sign that he was gone. Can’t blame Djax for wanting guaranteed $$ It’s too easy to get injured in this league.

          • Brian

            It’s not just Howie contracts, it’s the way of the NFL these days, especially with high profile players.

          • Adam G

            Do you really think Desean would’ve renegotiated with the Eagles and taken the contract he got from the Skins?

          • Brazilnut

            Hard to guarantee a guy that carries so much risk.

          • Will

            He should of said I’m not thinking about contracts right now we as a team just lost in the first round of the play offs and I feel like we let our Coach and our Fan base down ….but hey what do you expect from a Mesean…

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            Mr. Brazilnut,

            You had a career year at your job. You got emails out way ahead of schedule! You improved most of our systems by increasing efficiency! You alone increased our profit margin by 20%! AND you fixed bomb coffee!

            Do you deserve a new contract that will give you a raise?

          • Adam G

            Not if Mr. Brazilnut was already overpaid before his career year getting emails out way ahead of schedule.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            Is this a fact or an opinion? I need some numbers to back up assertions. Especially when the topic is DJax. A player that people love to hate.

          • Adam G

            Well, lets see. He had a career year yet nobody would take on his salary which was the same as the year previous. He essentially got fired, and rehired for less money. The evidence overwhelmingly points to the fact that his current salary was too high.

          • Brazilnut

            He played very mediocre over the past few years, and yet they gave him a new contract far higher than the level he was playing at, specifically because they knew he was better than that and would play at a higher level. So they give him a good contract, he plays up to the contract that they gave him, and now he wants to bump it up again? If you’re getting paid more than you’re worth and then you play better, you don’t get another raise to continue getting paid more than you’re worth.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            I can’t help but notice that you didn’t answer the question.

        • Adam G

          Except it becomes fully guaranteed the first day of the season. He just gets paid weekly.

          • Brian

            True, but I think he needed the bulk of the money ASAP. At least that’s the angle which supports my theory.

          • Adam G

            That’s a reach I think. And I think he may have had a roster bonus as well.

          • Brian

            I believe it’s as plausible as most of the other theories though. It’s the money version of the Chris Carter release.

          • Tom w

            He won’t see it till he starts getting game checks. Long ways to wait. And if he blows a knee there goes no money in 15 or 16 under eagles deal so it’s really just about the guaranteed money. He know has security for 3 yrs w the giant wed money being spread out through three years vs no years w old eagles deal plus he gets a giant signing bonus he gets immediately versus paychecks in September. He is broke … Rosenhaus suing him for a half mil. Rap label is broke. Lots of mouths to feed

    • Tom w

      New agent only gets paid on new contract. That is all this is about. Money. Djax and his agent getting paid.

    • swingline

      where did we read, hear or see anything about Djax being broke and asking for more money??? LAst time I checked all he did was answer one reporters answer and wanted to redo his contract for more secure and guarantee – but then, all of sudden djax is broke and all the rest of speculation swirls online..

  • Hiral

    @SDK I just want to say nice informative article about DeSean. It’s sad as an Eagles fan that I have mixed feelings about the situation especially seeing some of these foolish comments that are posted. Most of the clowns are lobbying for DeSean to leave and then want to draft a WR in the first round. If we aren’t missing DeSean’s production like most of these clowns on here indicate then why are they so pressed to replace him. If you get a chance please do an all 22 with Odell Beckman from LSU so these clowns can see his production will be nowhere close to that of DeSean’s. Other than Mike Evans I don’t see nor think the Eagles would move up for a receiver other than him. They chastise DeSean for being small and having poor blocking skills, but I see the same attributes in Odell. Other than his good hands there is no comparison to DeSean. Racism still exist in America and its sad to see how sometimes it rolls over to sports. Richard Sherman wrote an intriguing article about DeSean and the Eagles, check it out if you get a chance. I know we are taking a DB in the first round so if you could do an all 22 on Fuller, HA HA, and Pryor it would be appreciated. And if we don’t take a DB in the first round there is no doubt in my mind that DeSean will torch us badly. Piere Garçon lead the NFL in receptions and averaged 5+ catches a game and that was from a bad RG3 season. He will be better this year; bank on it!!! I’ve been an Eagles fan for 20+ years and I rate this with Reggie leaving and seeing Randall in a cowgirls uniform. JUST TERRIBLE.

    • Brazilnut

      People really need to stop thinking that a single player needs to have the same production next year as Jackson did last year. Is it not perfectly feasible for a rookie to put up 500 yards and Maclin put up 800? That alone would replace Jackson’s production without even getting into Sproles, Benn, and Ertz’ expanded role.

      • Gil

        Excellent point…they will just spread the ball around more……they have plenty of players that will catch passes.

    • Brazilnut

      Also, saying it has anything to do with racism is just absolutely ludicrous and shows how little you know about the situation or the team. I’d advise you to read http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/cant-win-playing-race-card-cooper-vs-jackson

    • Birds4Life

      Look, I’m not happy that the Eagles let Desean go but let’s be realistic here. You do not know what the Eagles are going to do in the draft, no one does! Not even the Eagles because they have 21 teams picking before them in the draft. What if none of those guys are on the board when the Eagles pick at 22. Would you want another Jaiquawn Jarret reach for a DB? That will really help out our secondary, right!?!

      Everyone talks about replacing his production, but he has never been more productive than he was last year. Why do you assume that he is going to be as productive in a new system with a new team? AR threw the ball more than 70% of the time but Jackson never put up 82/1300 before.

      Qb’s can’t throw the ball if they don’t have time to throw it. How is Jackson going to have time to let those deep routes develop when the RGIII is running for his life? You did watch thte Eagles in 2012, right? Ofensive line plays a big part of the offense. Redskins have no offensive line.

      And lastly, check your math, Garcon averaged 5+ catches a game? 16×5 = 80. If you are going to be so adamant about something you should have your facts straight or no one is going to listen to you!

  • Will

    The Silence from his team mates of the last 6 seasons in worth a 1,000 words…So let the book close and collect dust till the week before we play the Deadskins…

  • ochospantalones

    Sure, the Eagles cut a Pro Bowl receiver in his prime for unknown reasons, which is pretty much unprecedented, but why should there be news coverage of that? Let’s move on! Let’s talk about something important, like the draft, which is 5 weeks away. Or training camp cuts. Or which backup linebackers are still available.

    • Brandon Boykin, LOL

      Why should there be news coverage? Because “the Eagles cut a Pro Bowl receiver in his prime for unknown reasons, which is pretty much unprecedented.”

      • ochospantalones

        I was joking, though to be fair it is notoriously difficult to convey tone on the internet. My point is it’s ridiculous how many people pop up on every post to complain that we’re still talking about DeSean Jackson. It’s one of the 5 biggest Eagles stories in the last 5 years (firing Andy, hiring Chip, signing Vick, and trading McNabb are the others) and nothing else is going on right now- what else should we be talking about?

        • Brandon Boykin, LOL

          I apologize. It’s funny now. Haha

  • #7

    Spot on Shiel. Very nice article

  • Joe Thomas

    Go Eagles!

  • jabostick

    Good article, Sheil. I know there’s fatigue on the issue but the Eagles staying silent allows the rumours, assumptions, and theories to fester. Money, locker room, fit, buy-in, off field concerns are all legitimate and possible reasons but none make all that much sense on their own. By not addressing his release, though, we have to come to our own conclusions. It is tough to be a passionate fan base and watch a popular player leave and not get any closure on it…

    The Eagles have a right to hold all the information they want, though, if I were a season ticket holder, I’d feel completely comfortable in expecting some explanations.

    • Brazilnut

      ” Money, locker room, fit, buy-in, off field concerns are all legitimate
      and possible reasons but none make all that much sense on their own.”
      Thats the thing though, none of those are on their own, they all add up. You can’t look at each thing individually and say “oh well that isn’t too bad” and not think about the accumulation of all the bad things hes done.

      • jabostick

        I agree but we’re making all those assumptions because Chip/Howie/Jeff won’t address it, is my point. They’re not required to if that is the approach they want to take, but the cost is rampant speculation – some accurate, some not.

  • Brandon Boykin, LOL

    Great article, Sheil. Love the objectivity and the balanced analysis here. The DeSean haters are going to… hate on a lot of what you said. However, as always, you backed it up numbers.

    I agree with you, Sheil. I think this is as simple as Chip not wanting DJax around. That simple.

    Although, Brian’s theory does sound interesting as well.

    • anon

      We forget all of the times he was yelling on the sideline at the WR coach, other teammates, etc.

      • swingline

        “all the time he was yelling..” all the time? it happened one time that we know of which was caught by the camera genius. Please keep insinuating asinine reasonings for more baseless argument. thanks!

      • Tom w

        And avant basically said djax wouldn’t speak to bicknell after that. But he wasn’t a distraction hahaha

      • Eaglehaslanded

        Players argue with coaches, coaches argue with coaches and at times fight each other. I saw djax argue two or three times on sideline. It happens every week on a football team. Hell….Tom Brady argues with his offensive coordinator and cursed out a ref. He’s called fiery, passionate and a leader. We nitpick Jackson to death ignoring what he does bring positively the field and organization.

        • lozgod

          Yes players and coaches argue but its whats said and Desean said to the WR coach that “his boys in blue were gonna drive by and smoke his butt in the parking lot and I dont mean the police homie.” Unclear what that ‘ties’ to but its desturbing none the less and thats the G rated version.

          • chuck

            i remember that but didn’t put 2 and 2 together. makes sense now that the NJ.com article came out.

    • Tom w

      Objective that’s rich.

      • Richard Colton

        I try

  • G_WallyHunter

    Paragraph before #1… All that needs to be said and said perfectly, thankyou Sheil

  • GEAGLE

    Just did a draft for Colton lol…Traded out of round 1 for an extra 3rd and I traded a 2015 pick for San Fran’s 77th pick(3rd)…then ended up trading away one of my three 3rd round picks for two 5ths…..none of those are far fetched trades:

    2)Xavier Su’a Filo OG so Colton can be happy.
    2) KVN OLB/ILB hybrid
    3) Jordan Mathews WR NFL ready to contribute in September
    3) Marcus Smith.. Will be ready to be a 3down OLB in 2015
    4) CJ Fiedorowicz TE
    5) Brandon Coleman developmental WR, beastly redzone weapon
    5) Deandre Coleman
    6) Traded BG for a 6th and drafted Jonathon Dowling Safety
    7) DAT
    …..
    Think Deandre Coleman is a player we are going to target to backup Logan..we can get Deandre around the 5th-6th round I’m assuming. Really starting to think THATS who we will try and get to back up Logan

    • Brian G

      Man, I love the Eagles too. But seriously bro, this is a bit overboard.

      • Richard Colton

        all the trades you mean?

      • GEAGLE

        Uhhhh let’s see:

        Trading the 22nd pick in the draft and moving back to #7 in round two were I found Su’a FILO and aquired an extra 3rd round pick isn’t at all unrealistic

        Giving the Niners a 2015 2nd round pick, for a 2014 3rd round pick isn’t exactly crazy far fetched, since they have too many pics and not enough roster spots…

        Trading away a 3rd and BG for two 5th round pics and a 6th, I probably didn’t get ENOUGH compensation…

        So what part was so far fetched in your opinion that it required some worthless condescending comment?

        • Richard Colton

          the amount of trades you can make in the game is a little unrealistic. That said, I’d be surprised if the Eagles didn’t make at least one. It’s what they do.

          • GEAGLE

            You can chose to not accept the unrealistic ones, or another things I do is..say I want to trade back, but they are offering me unrealistic compensation…like, let’s say I’m being offered an extra 2nd, and an extra 3rd, where realistically I would only get the extra 2nd if we made that trade in real life…..what I do, is I’ll balance things out later, by giving back that unrealistic Extra 3rd round pick…….so if I get too much value in a trade, I make sure I overpay to move up a spot later on and give that value back so in the end it evens up realistically….
            ….
            Take for example, past two days I been talkng about wanting to buy the 77th pick from the Niners for a 2015 second round pick…I can’t trade next years round two pick in the game, so I trade back from 22 into round two, and accept an unrealistic trade that gives me two extra 3rd round pics…it’s unrealistic trade, but it equals out to realistically trading back getting an Extra 3rd, and then trading next years two for that extra 3rd….

            Basically I manipulate the trades to make them equal realistic scenarios….

          • GEAGLE

            Like I’ll accept an unrealistic trade that’s offering a 6th round pick too much, because it equals what I want to do in real life. Get an extra 6th for BG…and I can’t trade BG in that game…feel me?

          • Richard Colton

            I would say the best way to make it “fair” is to compare the total point value of your picks pre-game with the total value post game. Then give yourself a 6th rounder for BG if that seems fair. Although, based on how we s#it the bed in the DeSean situation, I don’t like our odds of even getting a 6th rounder. Plus – no multiple trade downs in the first round unless you’re the St Louis Rams.

          • GEAGLE

            I have never paid attention to the point Values when doing the game, so I have to check it out…
            .,.
            One saving grace is BG plays an extremely valuable position. A guy who has never been a starter. Everson Griffin literally got 20mil in GUARENTEED….take BG exact situation and switch his position, and you could very well get nothing in return..?But because he is a pass rusher, there is some tiny hope for someone t send us their scraps….but as much as I would like to get an extra pick in this draft, I wouldn’t mind seeing him get some continuity and see what he can do in year two…If he ends up having a decent year, or even the dumb luck of being on the field 8 times and a team mate chase a QB into BGs arms, or QB trips over his centers feet and BG lands on him lol..get some minimal saćk luck, and someone will offer him some decent money to be a 4-3 DE, which means we will end up with a decent compensatory pick….so while I’m desperate enough for more picks to want to see us trade him, keeping him for the year may actually be the smarter play…we will get a better player on the field then what we had last year, and we most likely end up with a higher comp pick, than the 6th rounder we would be lucky to even ei

          • GEAGLE

            Lucky to even get

          • Richard Colton

            That’s the scenario I see. Like, he comes on really strong at the end of the year – 7 sacks in the last four games. Gets labeled a “late bloomer.” Then somebody signs him to a big $$$ deal because of the paucity of DEs in next year’s draft.

    • Richard Colton

      Beautiful Geags – since this is a mock for me – anyway we can swap out Jordan Matthews for your boy Moncrief, and maybe Telvin Smith for your 4th round TE?

      • GEAGLE

        Works for me…that was the draft game tho, they weren’t on the board when I was picking, or you already know I would have taken Moncreif

        • Richard Colton

          Ohh I see – you omitted the grades. I’d be very happy with your draft as is. Love the value in round two. Marcus Smith is a steal in round three. Brandon Coleman (RUTGERS) is a sleeper. He could be that tall WR fans have been begging for since Plexico was carried out of that NY club wearing sweatpants and a bullet hole.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t know how to copy and past that page from my iPad…so I had to type the results

          • Will

            LMAO OH DICK U MADE MY DAY!!!!

      • cliff henny

        no…don’t take any weapons away

    • cliff henny

      was Adams WR available when taking Filo? then take guard instead of Coleman.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah…could have had KB,Adams,Moncrief,Mathews, A Rob, considered Tuit…all them were on the board when I took the OG

        • GEAGLE

          I want to trade out of round 1 and get an extra 3rd in real life, and I want us to trade next years 2nd to the Niners for one of their 3rds in this draft…..so I keep playing that game, accepting a trade back from 22 into round two that gives us two extra 3rds in the game, which is unrealistic real life compensation…but it’s the same as two realistic moves: trading back from 22 for an extra 3rd and trading next years two for another 3rds….so it all evens out to not having a first round picks but having two 2s and three 3s…

        • Richard Colton

          You did the right thing. Maybe would have considered KB, but I like a higher floor with my first pick.

          • GEAGLE

            Plus I’m so enamored with The Oregon guard who comes out next year, that I haven’t been putting any work learning the later round guard prospects….so I wouldn’t even know what OG to target in round 5 and 6

          • Richard Colton

            IMO – zero who are ready to come in and start.

          • cliff henny

            don’t have to though.

          • Richard Colton

            true. you have more faith in Herremans than I do though

        • cliff henny

          heck, if all 5 are available, trade back again. think Kelly could make all of them work. get more picks, like a 4th, for your kinkley or however you spell it
          .
          was chatting on here with someone about SF’s picks, i’d give them #22 and move back for 2nd in high 50’s, 2 3rds and a 4th-trade chart math works. then let chip and Howie clean up

          • GEAGLE

            I agree…and hopefully Howie is presented with plenty opportunities to trade back…I REALLY REALLY REALLY want 5 picks in the first 3 rounds!!!…most realistic way to pull that off is trading away your first round pick, and letting a team with too many pics, convert one of their picks to a higher pick next year, so we would have to trade next years 1st for an extra 2 this year, or next years 2 for an extra 3 this year….
            ..
            I’d prefer trading next years two, because we can ATleast try to trade back with our one next year to try and recuperate that pick we will trade away this year….I also think it’s easier to get a 3rd off someone for a future pick than a 2 because there are teams with like two or three compensatory picks in the 3rd…so it should be hard to find one to give up THEIR 3rd for a second next year, and then they still get to use their 3rd round comp picks…so even if we can’t get the 77th pic from the Niners, it shouldn’t be that hard for Howie to find a team who will give us a 3rd rounder for a 2015 second rounder…
            ….
            We NEED to end up with No first round pick. Two 2s, and 3 threes

    • Tom W

      yea chip recruited coleman. dont think they address dt/nt till 7th at earliest unless there is great value … like a kryi thorton, or dt from arkansas or kerr.

      Also watched tape on matthews …. doesnt play as fast as he is timed, no rac, no separation …. timing wr perfect for west coast … lotta his production came in garbage time … had trouble against florida and bama corners

      Dont think Filo gets past the broncos …. could see us taking brandon thomas from clemon or dakota dozier from furman in the third round at guard or waiting till 7th rd

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    In terms of routes, are the corner, post, go, and crossing routes all not some variation of a deep(er) route? 57.7% of his yards come on those 4 routes, while the other 42.3% came on the seven other routes provided. It seems to be a more diverse route tree than he ran with Andy, but let’s not act like his bread and butter doesn’t come from a deep(er) route. I don’t hate it, but is it not possible that Chip wants someone who can do more with those other seven routes to keep the tempo up? Time’s yours.

    • Will

      When people see the player’s CK wants in place exucuting his Offense then they will believe…I suggest they go watch footage of his year’s at Oregon it is cutting edge…CK was inventive, and forced mismatches, ran the ball down an opponent’s throat then the passing game exploded…till he has the player’s he wants he will continue to maximize what he has to work with…

    • Brazilnut

      I agree wholeheartedly. All of a sudden people get this idea that “one trick pony” means he can only run 1 route, when in reality it refers to how he only have one significant talent as a receiver (his elite speed).

      • Eagles1018

        Not disagreeing his speed is his best asset. But not his only. He has awesome acceleration which is something most people overlook. He’s not only fast he gets up to that top speed fast. And honestly on those go/post routes he tracks and has better hands than a lot of WR in the league.

        • Brazilnut

          You’re still only really talking about his speed though. None of his other attributes are spectacular.

    • JofreyRice

      Yeah, I touched on that above. My only thing is, I’m pretty sure Chip wants to be a big play offense. Desean led the team, and was 3rd in the league overall in receptions of more than 25 yards. So he was extremely productive in running those routes. It was more than just being a decoy. And those routes absolutely have an effect on the way Kelly’s offense can be defensed. Take away a viable deep threat, and Cooper sees more safety help. All of a sudden, producing big plays gets tougher for him.

      I don’t see this as a dink and dunk west coast offense. Everything is predicated on stretching the field horizontally and vertically, while pressuring the defense with pace, and forcing them to make split second decisions, hoping the Eagles can “score f!cking points” on one of the bad ones.

      I just think that someone’s got to play that vertical role. Maybe it’s Maclin, but I don’t think he’s conclusively shown he can be that, yet. Maybe they go after Donte Moncrief, or someone like that.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        I agree with you about Maclin, I just think he wants someone that can do all of those routes well. And while I don’t think he wants a dink and dunk offense, he wants the ball out quicker and those longer developing routes don’t allow for that, especially if the receiver struggles getting off the jam. Desean is inconsistent with getting off of jams. Chip wants big plays to come from quick decisions that get guys in space, or at least that’s my read. So while he’ll take shots, he has a WC OC helping him, so there’s going to be a few route concepts that are similar, which is where I think, schematically, DJ doesn’t fit exactly what he wants to do on O. Just my take. I tend to think he either wants a bigger bodied receiver that can handle the shorter stuff and get off jams, or a guy like Cooks who’s a great and precise route runner that has the wheels, too.

  • Rick H

    I would not call this an unbiased objective article. It sounds like an unhappy fan. Sheil GET OVER IT! JACKSON was a huge problem. He is a good player NOT GREAT BY ANY STRETCH. The Eagles were extremely patient and then some. Next year he will be missed to a certain degree. After that he will be another guy whether or not he plays well for The Redskins. The Eagles are better off NOW and definitely 2 seasons from now. It will be a one season ugly pill to swallow but in Kelly’s 3rd season the Eagles will be so much better off without him. If the Eagles get Odell Beckham or Brandin Cooks they could very well be better this season. Anyone that has played high level sports and been a member of a professional football team in the NFL knows this is/was a smart move. Where are his teammates calling for him or defending him??? NOWHERE BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT HIM ON THE TEAM! That is the reality!

    • FLIP

      Why are you ignoring the fact that the eagles have created a need where there was NONE….fine, chip can build his team however he wants to, but anyone with any kind of COMMON SENSE knows that you simply cannot release a impact player under contract with NO compensation in return.

      • Rick H

        MACLIN/ERTZ/COOPER/SPROLES/MCCOY MCCOY MCCOY PLUS CELEK AND A TOP NOTCH ROOKIE RECEIVER. There is no need to replace a locker room cancer. Addition by subtraction!!!

        • Richard Colton

          there are three McCoys? How do you know which is the real one?

          • devCal

            touchdown.

          • Rick H

            Now that is funny! i saw it on my phone on the way home and it made me laugh!!!

        • Eaglehaslanded

          Please..in detail tell me how D. Jackson was a locker room cancer, as you must have been in the locker room to witness his actions tearing the locker room asunder or causing dissension between players and coaches. Listening to Howard Eskin, Reuben Frank and Ray Didinger, who were all in the locker room many times report that Jackson was actually a loner and did not bring his friends around At times they saw Jackson playing dominos or cards with some of his friends/team mates, but often he kept to himself. Jackson had a chip on his shoulder and may have been narcissistic and perhaps passionate at times (like they say about Brady when he argues with his coaches), I sincerely doubt that Jackson’s issues was any more pressing than most top WR’s on most other NFL rosters. Dez Bryant is a complete nut job and Jerry Jones made it clear that they drafted him and will stick by him through his troubles. Once again, how was Jackson a locker room cancer? Details and the facts sir, just the details and the facts.

          • Brazilnut

            I can’t believe there are still people willing to deny it with the dozens of reports over the years. You morons think that because Andy Reid kept everything hush hush that it means he never did anything wrong. Its not a question of if he was a bad locker room presence, the only debatable factor is how bad he truly was. If you’re trying to deny he was a locker room cancer then you’re in denial at this point.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            I sir must question your maturation level as you feel the need to judge and name call because people have a diefference of opinion with your own.. What are you in 6th grade?
            Details and the facts sir, details and the facts. You obviously have the information in your stacks of reports. No one is denying that he didn’t have distractive behaviors, that’s a lot of NFL players. JC, what is this the boy scouts or the NFL? The Philadelphia Eagles or the Philadelphia Angels? So, since we got rid of #10cancer, you can guarantee the Eagles will win a playoff game next year, or better yet the SB correct? We shall see!

          • Brazilnut

            Its not a difference of opinion, you are completely ignoring dozens of reports. You’re sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening to something we’ve all known for years. You talk about maturity and yet what you are doing is the most immature attitude of all.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            No, I operate and function off of facts, not he say she say. I’ve repeatedly asked you to provide me with details and facts, yet you have not been able to do so or are unwilling to do so. What I know is that yes, he has some ways that are distractible, however, that did not cost the team to lose games this year or tear the team apart ala T.O circa 2005. Cancer is a strong word to use with no concrete info to back it up. Perhaps your definition of a locker room cancer and mines are different, hence, causing a difference of opinion. regardless, the Eagles were a better team on the field with than without. I do not get caught up in athletes personal lives and locker room activity. Bottom line, Jackson’s on field ability was worth keeping around another year. The fact that there were no suspensions, fines or any other disciplinary measures taken against him this past season tells me all I need to know.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            Johnathan Papelbohn, T.O. are locker room cancers!

          • Tom W

            1) loner like nnmadi

            2) public argument w bicknell where he had to be restrained

            3) didnt speak w bicknell thereafter only through avant

            4) missed special team meetings to hang w his friends

            5) missed exit interview w chip

            6) missed meetings under Andy and suspended

            7) moped around for a year and alligatored tons of balls and refused to block or get hit in 2011 when he was upset about his contract and broke

            8) borrowed half million from his agent he still owes — same agent represented and liked by alotta the same players. sued by agent.

            9) problems w cal coaching staff … dropped to second round of draft perceived as a diva and me first

          • Eaglehaslanded

            And still 82 -1332 yards, 60 first downs and 9 TD’s. Don’t act as if this is behavior that’s unique to Jackson. Many malcontents and rule breakers on many superbowl winning teams. Having Jackson doesn’t guarantee a bowl, however, losing him, w/o nothing in return hurts the Eagles on field and strengthens a division opponent. If he was so bad he should have been fined or suspended. Funny how nothing came out during the season…but after the decision was made to cut him when he was scheduled to make 10.5 mil, all of a sudden all of these issues cone up. Oh…and by the way. Nnamdi couldn’t play a lick. Djax can ball his ass off!

        • #7

          LOL

      • Tom W

        teams do it all the time. the system and team is bigger than any one player. his agent destroyed the trade market not the eagles. we tried to trade him for over a year. cant make water outta wine.

  • Rob Mullen

    If the highest offer was 76% of what he was making what makes you think they would pay 100% and draft picks. He as untradeable because his contact he had with the Eagles.
    His last 3 games with the Eagles are
    Yds TD’s
    CHI 29 0
    DAL 28 0
    NO 53 0

    I guess he was the decoy those games making 10.5 mil a year.

    • Brazilnut

      People seem to have forgotten how many games Jackson disappeared in from getting pressed by an average corner.

      • lewis don

        I haven’t forgotten…

    • Adam G

      Bottom line, elite WRs, which is how he was paid, don’t disappear like that.

      • Tom w

        Well said Adam and rob

  • Gil

    Maclin actually had more catches and more touchdowns than Jackson in 2011 and again in 2012. Now Maclin will catch even more passes

    • Tom W

      Great points Gil. Think alot of people are underselling how good maclin is and how we can expect a giant increase in production based on better offensive system, more plays, and how much better djax and cooper were in this offense. and w sproles or rookie cooks replacing avant holy hell. Nother year and an actual offseason for ertz (couldn’t particpate till training camp bc of graduation rules and publicly said he was way behind at beginning of season about knowing offense) and sky is the limit for this offseason.

  • Guest

    @Sheil

    ** “Why not see how things played out until the draft and try to get something back in return? Maybe there still would have been no takers, but at least they would have given themselves more of a shot.” **

    Six-time National Football League Executive of the Year Bill Polian had an explanation on SiriusXM NFL Radio’s Late Hits for why DeSean Jackson was released now instead of later.

    He
    said that when a team wanted to move on from a player they used to keep
    them longer while trying to arrange a trade. But after a 2006 grievance filed by Steve McNair
    against the Tennessee Titans for preventing him from working out with
    his team was ruled in his favor, players under contract must be allowed
    to participate in off-season team workouts. Polian said because of that,
    April 21 – when organized team activities begin – has become a new
    “demarcation date” for teams getting rid of undesired players. Polian
    said if a team keeps an undesired player after that date the team takes
    the risk that the player might be injured during training camp, and then the
    team “buys that player for the rest of the year.” If a team has decided
    to move on from a player it is in their best interest to do it before
    April 21.

    That’s why they didn’t wait until the draft.

    • Adam G

      Yeah, it’s why Chris Johnson is going to be released next week.

    • Dilwala_G

      You are probably right, but seems like bad reasoning – chances of him getting injured are low, and if he is that injured, he ends up on IR and not counting against cap (right?) – seems a low risk vs. potentially high reward of a trade asset. But if they figured low chance of trading him during draft regardless, then makes sense to do it now and avoid the risk and the headache

      • Adam G

        No, if he got hurt they would have to pay him AND he would count towards the cap.

        • Dilwala_G

          I did not realize that – that is a stupid rule, but obviously changes the risk/reward – thanks for clarifying!

      • Guest

        Right, chances of injuries are low. It’s not like there is a recent history of Eagles receivers tearing their ACLs during training camp *cough Maclin* *cough Benn* or anything. Sure, pay Jackson – a player the Eagles decided they no longer wanted – $10 million to go through rehab, and THEN try to trade him next year. Not worth it.

    • TOm W

      great point … was trying to think why wouldn’t wait till after draft as only real reason I was upset about timing of cut (completely undestand why we cut him). Segal destroyed the trade market for us by floating he wouldn’t restructure his deal (and so segal gets paid on the new deal vs old deal where rosenhaus gets paid.)

  • Ark87

    I swore off discussing DJax any further on TLaw’s “Venting” article, but I will say that is as thorough, thoughtful, and holistic analysis as I’ve seen anywhere. Nice piece Sheil. I know you’re just sharing what you know. Eventually it will be known what happened, and I’ll be here to get the good stuff. Until then, draft talk! Why the hell did they push it back. Feels so wrong, typically this time of year is a time of great excitement.

    • GEAGLE

      Don’t you mean, Spadaro junior pretending to vent article?

      • Ark87

        Tommy’s good people. I got no hard feelings. He’s always been a positive writer. Ultimately, Tommy isn’t positive because he does the Fandemonium column. They picked him to write that column because his writing was generally positive and team-based loyalty already. He’s no sell-out. The dude bleeds green, and is football smart, even if he does have the Sword of Damocles hanging over him these days.

        • Richard Colton

          up voting the Sword of Damocles reference. This is such a literate board.

        • GEAGLE

          Toms the man!!! But there are Certain things he is worth paying attention to, and certain things im better off ignoring…
          ..
          For example, I don’t care how Spadaro he gets, it’s still worth reading his opinion on draft prospects(ATleast we can count on him to watch film for himself when providing an opinion, which is pretty damn rare, because writers rarely watch film for themselves) and his DGRs….he won’t sugar coat the DGRs, just give you his honest assessment…
          ….
          But if a situation is negative about the eagles, I personally don’t see a reason for why I would want to read his opinion, when I know I won’t get his honest assessment because he is calculated and even he admits he can’t always say what he wants to say….and that’s fine…doesn’t make him a bad person that’s for sure…it doesn’t make him an idiot.

          • Ark87

            well put

  • JosephR2225

    Strangest part about Jackson’s trade value or lack thereof is apparently a complete lack of effort to “sell” Jackson. He was making a lot of money, but big contracts aren’t per se untradeable (Eagles traded Asante, albeit for a 7th rounder, and they traded for DeMeco). But with stories circulating in the media about his lacking work ethic or having a poor attitude or being a problem in the locker room, then especially when it came out they were considering releasing him outright, the Eagles kept their mouths shut and his trade value plummeted to zero. Doesn’t make sense to me.

    • Brazilnut

      No team is going to trade picks in a very deep draft to pay a diva 10.5 million a season. The Eagles could have pretended to want to keep him but then they would lose credibility with the players.

      • JosephR2225

        Maybe… I don’t think it hurt their locker room when they pretended Kevin Kolb was a legitimate QB, and I don’t think the guys in that locker room are stupid. They would know why Desean was being shopped and moved. But the Redskins gave him more guaranteed money than he ever had with the Eagles. Makes me think there was at least *some* interest in him out there.
        I don’t know… maybe it’s a pipe dream. Guess I’m just confused by their silence throughout the whole process.

        • Brazilnut

          They never “pretended” anything with Kevin Kolb, they liked him as a player. The point is, you can’t publicly say “oh no we love desean we’re excited to see what he does next year not going to release him, hes great in the locker room”. Then as soon as you release him none of the players trust anyone in the organization.

          • JosephR2225

            I don’t think there would be a credibility issue. Like I said whatever the Eagles said publicly, I believe the guys in the room would know why Desean was being shopped or moved.
            And I’m just speculating on whether there was potentially a market. Maybe the Skins were bidding against themselves for a WR tagged as a diva and a headache, but if you can limit that perception maybe there are more bidders.

          • Brazilnut

            The problem is that you’d have to lie to the players to realistically keep it from leaking. If the entire locker room knows, theres a very good chance the media does too. You can’t tell a player you aren’t getting rid of him and then release him.

          • JosephR2225

            Maybe, but didn’t they take on that same risk when Chip called Desean and allegedly reassured him? The fallout from that was that Desean apparently spoke to teammates and told them he was coming back, and 72 hours later he’s cut.

          • Brazilnut

            All indications point to Desean misunderstanding their conversation rather than Chip actually telling him he was safe. Something like “don’t worry and get ready for the season” has no indication of intention but could be misconstrued as reassurance.

        • Adam G

          Except Skins were bidding against themselves and could not afford to pay him 10 mil this year. So who else would have?

  • Will

    Jets, KC both passed…MM and AR didn’t sign him says a lot…both teams could use WR’s…It’s sad when the Oakland Raider’s do not want you…

    • RIP illa

      Except the reports were that MM was vouching for DJax and advocating for the jets to pick him up, while the GM was on the fence. AR passed for reasons not given, but by all accounts it was a money driven decision. Washington was the 1st team he went to visit and signed him, with the 49ers being the next stop. Who’s to say, if he didn’t get a contract from either of those two, how things would have played out! So maybe sad that the Raiders didn’t want him, although reports said McKenzie was leery…Not that he ruled signing DJax out!!! Tell yourself what you need to make yourself feel better but stop trying to spread BS as gospel and like you have any inside info. That’s pretty much the undertones of this article. To correct the BS info and claims that are being thrown out there as facts!

      • Will

        Why in your humble opinion is DJax being shopped for the last year with no taker’s? That’s a fact….I personally think it was everything he did and didn’t do and he is not what CK wants in a WR period. And no way he get’s that 10.5 million. I’m not sure who said it but CK did not want him around his younger player’s. Fact. They cut him before April 21st for a reason FACT….

        • RIP illa

          I’m sorry, but did you just think that you said something profound and poignant??? You do realize that you just switched topics/issues from your OP??? I mean seriously, you are talking about a whole different set of points!!!

          Anyway, at least you included “facts” in your reply, instead of throwing your opinion, assertions, and speculations, out there under the guise of “facts” or factually based evidence, which reports contradict. And that’s all I can ask for.

          I do disagree with your statement of doubting he had a chance with another team, but at least that is your opinion.
          Yet, am I to take it as you doubt he had a chance with another team outside the Eagles, or outside of the skins? Is it your opinion that he would have been not able to play this year? I mean he did, have a meeting with SF lined up, after the skins. B-Lo still had a interest in him, for what they deemed “the right price”. As I said before, MM was still lobbying for him in NY, and McKenzie was still “leery” but not completely turned off. I mean it just seems a little bit unbelievable that he didn’t have a chance with any other team…especially if he was forced to lower his asking price so that he could have a “chance”.

          Sorry I’m not answering your initial question, but I thought that I had made my opinion on why I believed he was cut, pretty known. So I’m not trying to dodge. Just not re-typing or trying to get into it again. It’s done and over with from that standpoint. That’s why I no longer require or want an explanation from the FO. I believe there was a time for that, it was not provided, now the time has passed.

          • Will

            The FO said after careful consideration,,,any ways he is a Redskin and the last thing I want is a beef with fellow Eagles fans..Thanks for pointing out my faults and humbling me..I was not aware of SF or Bills interest…Any ways he gone How do the Rest of the Eagles respond on the feild without him or playing against him is all that ..matters to me at this point….someone else posted a lot of favorable quotes of player’s around him from the Eagles players…Some one else suggested it was all about Guaranteed money or his agent or he was broke…I still don’t know what to really make of it or who really was behind him being let go…But DeSean got what he asked for Guaranteed money for all I know they did him a favor cutting him for nothing to help him get guaranteed money that they were not gonna do for him…He was a Great player here even with all his antics…It will hurt when he gets opens and scores against us but hey that’s life and it goes on…

          • RIP illa

            Pretty much agreed. And it’s not your faults. Just too much disinformation being spread and people repeating narratives that have already been proven false. One of the main reasons I like being here is because we used to sort through a lot of BS and be able to talk about all things Eagles related, from an informed, intelligent perspective. We got an influx of new posters, and I would kinda like to get back to what we had, with them now onboard.

  • Token

    Kelce tweet was in response to one of those guys that believe that Jackson opens up everything.

    • Tom w

      Kelce is a fucking god. I may invest in his jersey.

  • Will

    One thing kinda cool about no one really knowing why Deadskin DeSean got cut….is all the traffic on this board…

  • Eagles1018

    This was a great article to sum this whole situation up. Thanks Sheil. I’m glad to see the title of it. Can’t wait to change the subject.

  • Leegles
    • phillylove21

      This is absolutely fake! If you believe this then you will believe anything.. There’s no releasing no body from a affiliated gang.. You die or get your @ss kicked until the point you wish you were dead.. There is no free agency to this.. LMAO!!!!! Release my @ss !

      • Adam G

        Do you also believe Onion articles?

      • Richard Colton

        This post made my day. Thank you.

        • Andy124

          I have to laugh to keep from crying.

          • Richard Colton

            I clicked on his name to see if maybe he was self aware and just trolling us. Nope.

          • Andy124

            Damn. I was holding out some hope. Poor guy.

      • ICDogg

        duh

      • Leegles

        Oh really? Are you sure about that? I’m pretty sure it’s real news! #smmfh

        • phillylove21

          Do you want me to be honest with you? I know so much about street gangs living on the west coast.. Desean will always have his name on the 60’s check book.. You DO NOT & I repeat “DO NOT” get released from any gang! Your affiliation stays with in unless you do those following two.. My friends and coworkers knee slap all day long with nonsense! If any of you believe this, then I promise I feel sorry for your future.. HONESTLY…..

          • Adam G

            Enough, its a fake article. It’s satire.

          • Richard Colton

            I don’t know who you run with on the West Coast pad’na. But you just failed your G-check. I happen to KNOW for a FACT that you can get released from a gang. Sure it’s complicated, but ask yourself – why would the Crips want one of their boys wearing Burgundy? Doesn’t make sense. Plus how is this going to sit with the NATIVE AMERICAN Crip affiliates? The name Redskin is a hot button issue.

            I know what you’re going to say – the tax implications alone make it difficult to leave a gang. Suggest you look at financial regulations in the post Glass-Steagall world man. All DeSean has to do is set himself up as an independent LLC and roll over his Crips pension plan into an independent 401k. I suggest Vanguard, but that’s for him to decide. At any rate – it can (and has) been done.

          • Andy124

            Holy shit that’s great.

          • RIP illa

            And with that, you just won the internetz!!!

          • Leegles

            Sorry, I was messin with you, PL21. It’s from a humor site. But thanks for the background info on how gangs work. Very interesting.

  • tbwhite

    40% of DeSean’s yardage(345 out of 808) from Foles came in 2 garbage games against Oakland and Minnesota.

    Let’s remove the 1st Dallas game, the Oakland and Minnesota games as not representative of what can be expected going forward, that leaves 7 games that Foles started.

    DeSean 28 catches, 378 yards, 13.5 yards per catch
    Cooper 22 catches, 473 yards, 22 yard per catch

    Who did Foles have the best chemistry with ?

    • anon

      Why was Minnesota a garbage game?

      • Sean Stott

        He’s right; it was. Eagles were down so many points so early that it was super high risk passing time.

      • tbwhite

        Sorry, garbage is a bad word to use. What I meant was that those games were atypical, and therefore not predictive. In the Minnesota game the Eagles threw 48 times and McCoy had 8 carries. How often does that happen ? Do you want to base your expectations for DeSean or anyone else off of that game ? Same thing with Oakland, bad team having a terrible day, it was a perfect storm. The Eagles were going to beat Oakland regardless of whether DeSean played in that game, and they weren’t going to be beat Minnesota that day no matter what because of the defense. I don’t care what DeSean did in games where the outcome was beyond his influence. I’m throwing out the 1st Dallas game because that seemed like an outlier the other way, Foles was so bad that I have to assume he was injured, and so I don’t think it is worth considering when trying to predict what to expect from Foles and DeSean next year.

        As I’m writing this I realize I should exclude the Chicago game as well to be consistent. In that case DeSean’s numbers are 24 catches for 349 yards or 14.5 yards per catch, and Cooper’s are 19 catches for 420 yards or 22.1 yard per catch.

        • Brazilnut

          Nick Foles had a serious groin injury and they weren’t even sure he could play.

          • Andy124

            The groin injury was listed the week before, and he did just fine against Tampa. Not listed at all for the Dallas game. I’m on board with the early concussion theory.

          • Brazilnut

            He actually got injured the Friday before the cowboys game. Not sure if it was a reinjury or just a different similar injury but he hurt himself 2 days before the game. Chip talked about it a few times.

          • Andy124

            I’d be interested to see that if you can find a link (easier said than done, I know). I know the announcers brought it up, but he looked ok when he stiff-armed a cowboy on to his ass in that game.

      • JofreyRice

        because he played well. I’ve actually charted all of Desean’s garbage games over the years, and it turns out his adjusted numbers, filtering out the garbage games. are: 14 receptions for 42 yards and 1 TD. Fantastic that they were able to get rid of that bust!

        • tbwhite

          The Minnesota game was an oddball, unless you expect Kelly and the Eagles to go from a 50/50 run/pass split in 2013 to a 6/1 pass to run split in 2014. If that’s the plan, then the Eagles were fools to let DeSean go, I’ll admit it. Otherwise, why don’t you admit your being disingenuous.

          • JofreyRice

            They were down early, and the defense knew they were passing–which one could argue actually makes racking up tons of receiving yards tougher. The only person being disingenuous here is the one trying to paint Jackson as a guy who had a few meaningless big games as an Eagle when he went for almost a thousand yards in 5 out of his 6 seasons in Green.

    • Andy124

      No offense, but I don’t think you’ve made a very strong case as to why we should discount those 3 games. This isn’t really about the point you’re trying to make. I agree that the difference between DJ’s and Cooper’s production with Foles at QB was not huge.

      Just on prinicple, if you’re gonig to pick and choose what numbers count, I think a pretty strong case should be made as to why. Evidence that something is a statistical outlier or that the other team isn’t trying. Something more than an assertion of garbage.

      • Brazilnut

        Hes very clearly stated the reasons.
        Cowboys- Foles was hurt and the whole offense played like crap
        Vikings- Defense blows it and the Eagles are down early leading them to throw the ball much more than they normally ever will.
        Raiders should be obvious, not a realistic game when Foles throws for 7 tds in less than a full game.
        Which of these do you disagree with?

        • tbwhite

          Thanks. My larger argument which I am re-posting from another article is that there is no way DeSean was worth $10 million. His stats came from big games with Vick as QB, or in fluke non-competitive games.

          Why DeSean is gone isn’t complicated, look at the numbers. Foles started
          10 games, DeSean caught 46 balls for 744 yards those games, that’s on
          pace for a 1,200 yard season. Not bad. But, almost half of those
          yards(46% or 345 out of 744) game from 2 games, Minnesota and Oakland.
          Do those games mean anything going forward. No. Oakland was a bad team
          playing an historically bad game, and the Eagles probably won’t often
          fall behind by 20 points and end up throwing 48 passes vs 8 carries for
          McCoy.

          So, let’s remove those games. In fairness, let’s also remove the first
          Dallas game, where I believe Foles was probably concussed early on and
          played terribly. That leaves us with 7 games in which DeSean caught 28
          balls for 378 yards. Over a full season that would be 64 catches for 864
          yards. In what universe is that worth $10 million ? The fact is that
          DeSean put up his big numbers with Vick as QB, and in 2 non-competitive
          games. In games with Foles as QB where he could have made a difference,
          he didn’t.

          That said, going to Washington is probably a good move
          for DeSean, RGIII’s ability to extend plays will probably provide a big
          boost to his stats. Of course since it’s Washington the season will
          still be a train wreck, but if he’s healthy I bet DJax puts up good
          numbers. However, based on what he did last years with Foles as QB,
          there was no reason to keep him at his salary, and Maclin should be good
          for DeSean’s 4 catches and 50 yards per game.

        • Andy124

          All of it, especially your very first sentence. He clearly stated nothing.

          Cowboys – how does the offense having a crap day mean those statistics are less indicative of Foles’s chemistry with DJ vs. Cooper.

          Vikings – They were down big and throwing a lot. There were still doing their best to win the game. How are these statistics less inidicative of Foles’s chemistry with DJ than Cooper. If anything, they’d count more.

          Raiders – The game started off 0-0. Was there some magical point where Foles said, “We’re up big, I’m just going to throw to DJ instead of Cooper”? What kind of logic leads us to say that when looking at stats to see who Foles had better chemistry with, these ones are no good because Foles was on fire?

          • Brazilnut

            Because they aren’t normal games that are indicative of future performances. I don’t know how you don’t get that.

          • Andy124

            He’s calling 40% of the team’s games anomalous! So almost half the friggin data doesn’t count? HA!

            A football season is made up of all kinds of games. Blowouts, overtime games, comebacks, you name it. These things aren’t anomalies. They happen. Someone that wants to count such a narrow sample of the available data is committing some really blatant select bias. And this is coming from someone that actually agrees with the overall point that 10.5 is a bit much for DeSean.

          • Brazilnut

            3/16 is not 40%. I understand your point that the football season is made up of different kinds of games, but those games aren’t indicative of his success as a player. Could we be in games like that again? Sure. Are we going to hand a huge contract to a WR that gets most of his production from games like that? No way in hell.

          • Andy124

            4/10 = 40%. He’s only looking at Foles’s games and he added Chicago to the list of exclusions.

            Look at the post I originally replied to. The final sentence makes it clear it’s about comparing DJ to Cooper. There’s nothing about those games that make a DJCooper comparison less valid than in any other game.Whatever inflated or deflated one of their numbers did the same to the other. What’s crazy is that there was no need to try to cherry pick any numbers. Somebody already showed that they each accounted for 31.06% of the receiving yards once Foles took over… without selection bias.

          • Brazilnut

            The fact that it affects both receivers doesn’t make a difference in the fact that the games are meaningless for both.

          • Andy124

            Meaningless my ass. They played them. On a football field. Against an NFL team doing their damdest to stop them and for most of these “anomalies” failing miserably.

          • RIP illa

            Lmao!!! Welcome to the world I’ve been living in since this whole thing started Andy!!! Makes you wanna pull your hair out huh?

          • tbwhite

            You’re right that when you start throwing out a lot of data it raises questions. But blindly keeping suspect data in your sample doesn’t make the problem go away. Then I can point and say yeah, but 40% of your data is bad, so your conclusion is wrong.

            Thought experiment: you need to predict how far I can drive a golf ball. You have 10 observations, 5 of them from level ground with no wind, 5 of them downhill with a 50mph wind at my back. Do you think your best estimate of my true ability to drive a golf ball would include the data when I was driving downhill with the wind at my back. Of course not. I’m not saying that I will never again play a hole that is downhill, or that I’ll never play with a strong wind at my back, just that since those aren’t normal conditions they don’t have as much predictive value. If you use all of that data and ignore the fact that some of the conditions were anomalous, then you will dramatically over-estimate my ability to drive a golf ball under normal conditions.

            Same with DeSean. He did great with Vick as QB, but that wasn’t going to happen with the Eagles in 2014 so exclude those games. With Foles at QB he had 2 big games, one against an historically bad defense, and one game where the Eagles essentially never ran the ball and only threw it. Those are abnormal conditions,exclude them. Likewise, exclude Chicago, the 1st Dallas, as you pointed out probably the Detroit game as well.

            Another way to get the same point though, is to keep all the data in and just use medians instead of averages. So doing that, DeSean’s median game with Foles at QB was 4 catches for 61.5 yards or 15.4 yards per catch, and Cooper’s was 3 catches for 63.5 yards or 21.2 yards per catch.

            There were 2 points I was trying to make, the first is that I disagree with the article and the idea that Foles and DJax had some sort of great chemistry. With Foles as QB, DeSean’s numbers were fairly ordinary. If anything Cooper may have had slightly better chemistry given his better yards per catch. The second point was that DeSean is gone because he just wasn’t that good, he wasn’t worth $10 million. He played better with Vick, who is gone, and his stats with Foles are inflated by 2 games that I consider to be flukes.

          • Andy124

            Ok, we disagree completely about the validity of that data you’re trying to exclude. If someone wants to say that the game against Dallas shouldn’t count because they think Nick sustained a concussion on the first drive, or Detroit because of the ridiculous weather, that’s one thing. But discounting stats from games just because the offense threw for a lot of yards doesn’t make any sense. They weren’t playing downhill against a 9-man defense.

            The point about the median I agree with 100%. Nothing to add.

            I would say one of the numbers that I think Sheil is pointing at as evidence of their chemistry that you’re ignoring is the completion % when throwing to DJ. It’s like 10 points higher than when throwing to Riley. That’s pretty significant.

            And I’ll say it one more time, I don’t disagree with your point, because the point can be made without rigging the numbers as you did with the medians. Not checking your math on those, assuming that’s accurate.

          • tbwhite

            Do you expect Foles to throw 7 TDs per game next year ? If not, then it’s probably best to discount the game in which he did that this year, it’s a fluke.

            Do you expect the Eagles to pass 6 times more than they hand off to McCoy next year ? If not, then it’s best to discount the game where that happened last year.

            Do you expect Nick Foles to play concussed and/or with a groin injury all of next year ? If not, well you get the point by now I hope.

            I don’t care what DeSean did when the Eagles won by 30+ points because they were going to win that game even if you were starting at wideout. Likewise, I don’t care about the game where they trailed big for most of the game, abandoned running the ball and just chucked it. And I don’t care about games where they played poorly likely due to injury. Those games aren’t predictive. Not that those things won’t happen again, they will, but who cares no one player is going to change the outcome of those games. What did DeSean do in competitive games where what he did mattered ? The answer is a hell of a lot less than most people think. And I bet that was part of the Eagles’ decision making process.

          • Andy124

            Better discount the Detroit game too. Not likely to play in a blizzard very often. Now only half the games have any validity to them. I’m starting to wonder if there was even a football season last year.

            I don’t think we should count the Tampa game. What are the odds of us playing them next year?

            Did Foles have a great year? Do we get to count any of the great things he did or are they all anomalies too?

    • dnabrice

      There were far more times that DeSean was wide open and didn’t get the ball thrown his way than when Cooper was wide open and didn’t get the ball.

      • tbwhite

        I’d like to see those stats.

        Even if it is true, if Foles can’t find him when he’s open he’s not worth $10 million to the Eagles.

        Of course, Cooper doesn’t have to be wide open to make a catch, he’ll actually go up and fight for a ball and get it.

  • joeknowsnada

    The above is why I come to this site and read your stuff. Great work.

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    While were closing the book on DeSean…Let’s open the book on Mike Evans 3:16. Can I get an Amen?

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      No, but you could get a “Hell yeah!”

    • Will

      That be a Miracle in the Linc for years…hoping they go get him…Cooper made Tebow look good…Just like Evans help Johnny Football….I hope they go up and he is still available him and Cooper together would be Awesome……AMEN ( SO BE IT)

      • #7

        Why not trade up and get Watkins

        • Will

          I think Watkins goes 1st in the top 4 picks…We may climb to 7th,8th,or 9th pick using our 1st’s this year and next year’s 1st gives Howie 1560 points…A first round 7th pick is 1500 points…I think there’s a chance Evans is there at 7th,8th, or 9th gone by ten…we would have to work a deal with Tampa,Minn, or the Bills….Realistically you could climb up to the 4th spot but the cost in picks would be crazy…

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        I mean if were going to let Chip be Chip…lets go big or go home. If Foles could get a guy with the kind of catch radius Evans brings, just imagine the winnable jump balls Evans would come down with from Foles.

  • Tom w

    Wow we get it you are outraged the eagles cut djax and will regret that decision for years to come.

    Eagles aren’t saying anything because of the fear of a libel and slander suit from djax and his agent. It also doesn’t help team image if we are bashing our former pkayers. Media just needs another story to write

    Lastly, no refuting djax a numbers from 2009-2012 were steadily dropping. You blissfully disregard 2011 and 2012 in your article but I don’t. Chips offense turned his career around.

    We won’t ask a rookie wr to replace all of his production geez. But between maclin sproles and a stud rookie and more ertz we sure can replace him and avant.

    Skins are idiots … They basically negotiated against themsleves and overpaid. The market for djax was minimal at best by the end despite agent spreading rumors about the niners and browns when the teams refuted them

    You all forgot to put any eyes on this all being djax and his new agents Joel segals plan all along since he was hired in 2013. Everyone knew w no secured money 2013 was a contract yr for djax. His new agent makes no money on his old contract, segal does. During owners meeting segal spread rumors that djax wouldn’t accept a restructured deal …. Only way to get a new deal that segal gets paid on is by him getting cut then. By telling everyone he wouldn’t restructure, he destroys the trade market (as evidenced by how much less he is getting from skins per year) and forces the eagles to cut him. Djax get his guaranteed money, skins get him at proper market value, and seals gets paid on this contract and Rosenhaus stops getting paid.

    • JofreyRice

      how could you possibly know what Desean’s actual market was? Bleacher report? The guy signed the biggest WR deal in free agency 5 days after he was released, in a market where most teams had already spent their FA budget.

      • Adam G

        You are still on this? That was his market, he hit free agency. With other teams having loads of money to spend. He’s an 8 mil a year WR. That’s pretty evident.

        • JofreyRice

          You mean the market said he was the most valuable wide receiver in free agency? Again, what are your sources for what kind of market there actually was for Jackson? Instagram?

      • Tom W

        Public information …. all the supposed team had publicly dropped out or were never interested in the first place.

        Panthers never interested despite coaches dumb comments.
        pats never interested
        seahawks never interested
        chiefs backed out early
        jets backed out after he was cut
        raiders not interested (sunday before he signed w skins)

        skins only team that had a meeting set up with him. after reports spread (by segal) that niners and browns were also pursuing djaz at same time negotations started w skins on tuesday afternoon at lunch, those same reports were publicly refuted by cleveland beat writer (browns not interested) and national sources (niners somewhat guarded interest at right price).

        Segal is a smart guy … if there was better money out there or a bargaining war to start he wouldve done it. no they signed the first reasonable deal they could as soon as possible.

        • JofreyRice

          Noise, not signal. He wasn’t sitting around for weeks waiting for his phone to ring. Signed the biggest WR deal of the postseason within 5 days of being released, and 1 of those days were hammering out contract details. Those are the actual facts.

          • Adam G

            Also the facts, he signed for 8 mil a year bc that’s his actual market value.

          • JofreyRice

            That’s fine. You were right that the WR market this year is not the same as it was last year, and I was wrong in thinking he’d get closer to 10 mil. Across the board, the numbers are down. That being said, he was the top paid WR that hit the market, even after a lot of teams couldn’t possibly be in on him because of cap space. The majority of big spending occurred early in Free agency, as it always does.

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    I’m pretty excited about the Monday morning Game of Thrones discussion…

  • Eagles1018

    Jordan Matthews would fit Chip Kelly’s scheme very nicely.

    At 6’3″ and 212 pounds, he fits the build of “big people beat up on little people” that Chip Kelly likes to reference. But he also runs a 4.46 40-yard dash and stayed for his senior year at Vanderbilt.

    Kelly loves leaders and seniors (every draft pick last year played at least four years) and Matthews is no exception. Plus, his 1,477 receiving yards and 112 receptions against the SEC would look really nice in midnight green.

    • Eagles1018

      Thought it was interesting to note that every player drafted last year was a senior. Also I’ve heard Matthews name out there.

      • Tom w

        Haven’t heard Matthews name out there at all. They didn’t interview him at the senior bowl or combine and did not bring him in yet. I could be wrong but don’t think he gets anywhere near 54 and I am almost positive we go pass rusher in the second. Matthews is not anyway worth 22

    • Will

      He is Jerry Rice’s cousin which I found interesting…

    • Tom w

      Nah can’t separate and beat man coverage. Doesn’t play as fast as he ran in 40. Lot of his catches were in second half of blowouts when game was already over and playing prevent and weak zone coverage. More of a west coast possession wr. Not a rac guy chip wants.

    • Tom w

      Logan wasn’t a senior. Krueger wasn’t a senior. Think robinson, Adams, moncrief Bryant and huff much more likely 2-4 and cooks in the first

    • Tom w

      Guess you stole that description from bleacher report. Could at least cite them

      • Eagles1018

        Haha you’re a funny little guy. “Stole” as much as copy/paste. If you did your own official scouting report on the players coming in please share. If not then get your info from the internet like everyone else. I’m just sharing with fellow fans.

        • Tom W

          I did see below. Watched tape on almost every player I talk about save ones I cant find tape on

          • Eagles1018

            you watch “tape” on them or watch YouTube hahaha. i do that too but i guess when you do it, we can call it watching tape and creating a scouting report. I’ll call it copy and paste to an eagles board.

    • JofreyRice

      He’s pretty much Eric Decker, IMO. Pretty solid, but not my first choice.

      • Eagles1018

        Not my. 1st choice either. I’m looking at the later rounds for offense hoping that they look to help defense early on. IMO that in itself a middle finger to old what’s his name that plays somewhere else now.

  • Jernst

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    Nothing about this decision makes perfect sense, any theory out there leaves some serious questions and inconsistencies. Literally the only thing that makes sense is a pending DJax legal issue that hasn’t come out yet.

    • botto

      the thing that makes sense is jackson is annoying and chip wants to start fresh wioth out him. nothing more

      • Jernst

        Yea, sorry…hastily cutting your biggest playmaker, in his prime, without an adequate replacement on the roster, when you have no issues carrying his contract cap-wise, ’cause he’s annoying … doesn’t make sense to me

  • Jernst

    Regarding kelces tweet: he’s right, the book on game planning against this offense with any success was to play 8 man boxes, bump and run with one safety deep (usually shaded towards DeSean).

    I think Kelly’s quote about wanting WR that can beat man coverage is very telling. DeSean is not great at beating tight man coverage for short quick passes. He’s too small and is better when he has time to stretch his route into the secondary before making his break. He’ll never be a short post, get position, catch and run WR.

    The only issue is that we don’t have that TO like WR on the roster yet, which makes the DeSean release puzzling. Because now teams can still play 8 in the box and bump and run, but now they don’t have to shade to Deseans side of the field or start 20+ yards deep to respect his speed, which will lead to less space and a down yr for Cooper.

    • JofreyRice

      I still think this basically came down to a money thing. They didn’t think he was worth paying that sum, and figured they could manufacture ways to get other people open & replace his production. As you touched on, the only philosophical problem I could see Kelly having with Desean as a player is in the way he can be used. He’s not as versatile as someone like say Calvin Johnson–Jackson’s a perimeter player that’s going to hurt defenses with vertical routes. But, considering how effective he was at getting Jackson to those routes–even if he started somewhere else (such as in the slot, or the backfield, or whatever)–and how much Kelly loves the big play, it’s hard to see it being a problem with Jackson as a player.

      Totally agree with what you’re saying in regards to coverage. People act like it’s some dirty trick to point out that Desean dictated coverage. He did, it’s just a fact, whether you think he’s a punk, or not. Cooper saw a ton of cover 0 man coverage because Desean was drawing the safety on the other side. For those that think he didn’t, please watch the games. Pretend there is a different player wearing number 10, and observe the empirical information. Jeremy Maclin has not yet shown the same kind of vertical ability that will force D-coordinators to always put a safety over him. That means more coverage types D-Coordinators can run with that look, and one less defender that has a declared role for Foles to diagnose, pre-snap. Both of those things make his job a lot tougher.

      • Brazilnut

        Its a combination of money and locker room/off the field stuff. You don’t pay 10.5 million to a guy who has that many issues.

        • Adam G

          Except if you are Andy Reid.

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, Reid’s the only coach who endured headaches from a high priced receiver because of his ability to put points on his scoreboard.

          • Adam G

            He said you don’t do that, but Andy was the one who got him that contract.

          • JofreyRice

            And the point is that Andy didn’t trailblaze anything. Managing talented guys that can be a pain in the ass is part of being a head coach for a lot of guys. If this is really primarily about a personality clash between Chip & Desean, then maybe he’s not part of that group; we’ll have to see how that works out. I can say, unequivocally, I’d rather have a head coach that can do that, though.

          • Adam G

            That’s in a vacuum sure. But I think before you make any judgments we need to see how the whole thing plays out.

          • JofreyRice

            We’ll have to see how it plays out on the field, but I think it’s an easy judgement to say the handling of it was botched, as Sheil pointed out above. They were about as smooth about moving on from Jackson as I was the first time I got to second base.

          • Adam G

            Yeah, but that’s not on Chip. That’s the whole Eagles organization. It was going to be ugly no matter what because nobody was trading for him.

          • JofreyRice

            Disagree. Did not have to be this bad. Chip’s decision (or some combo of Chip and Howie) is what necessitated moving on from Jackson, not vice versa. They did not have to move him. They weren’t in a cap crunch. They just didn’t think he was worth it, and played hardball with the agent, which painted them into a corner, strategically. They left themselves really no option when the story came out that they were going to release him if they couldn’t get compensation in trade; which, I’ll agree probably came from the agent.

            I think it’s pretty clear that whatever damning instagram pictures there are of Jackson holding his fingers up are the “other shoe” that’s going to drop. The police officer admits there is no evidence that Jackson is in a gang, buried right there in the 25th paragraph of the nj.com story. They let go of a 27 year old pro bowl receiver and got nothing in return.

          • Adam G

            Yeah, they didn’t HAVE to move on, but overpaying a player who is disliked by the coach, presumably, means they will almost definitely move on. He was overpaid by 25%. That’s a decent amount of money. I personally don’t like to overpay by 25% when purchasing things. Especially expensive things. Even though I could afford it.

          • JofreyRice

            Once again, do you think Mark Trestman rolls out of bed in the morning, hoping he can go talk to jerkoff Jay Cutler about what he’d like to see him improve upon? The guy that didn’t even talk to his offensive coordinator during a game? Who cares if you like the guy, you just gotta win with him. Maybe Chip’s system really does make it so he doesn’t need to deal with the headaches talented players sometimes bring. But as Sheil said above, it’s a dangerous way of thinking; one we’re going to have to wait to see the results of. Maybe he won’t be missed, Or maybe it will remind of when Josh McDaniels moved the aforementioned Cutler for a guy that could run his system in Kyle Orton.

            For the financial piece of this, if the option is overpaying him by 25% for one season, and having him on the field, versus releasing him for nothing, to free up 6 million that’s just going to sit around on your books, I think the value for the football team is having him on the field. That’s just me, I don’t cheer when their financials are released, I cheer when they score touchdowns.

          • Maggie

            A well-run business also does not keep whiny. self-absorbed employees for long as a rule. The PLAYERS have also said nothing, have you noticed? Finally, this 27-year-old child wasn’t in D.C. for 10 minutes before he was trying to take the star quarterback’s number off his back! That alone should tell you everything you need to know.

          • JofreyRice

            Oh, you mean a well run business like the Seahawks, who traded for a guy many considered one of the league’s biggest malcontents in Percy Harvin, and another guy that was considered a locker room cancer, here, in Chris Clemons?

            I seem to remember Mychal Kendricks saying this:

            “Once you’re tagged with being a certain type of way, it’s kind of hard to get rid of,” Kendricks said. “But I’ve known DeSean Jackson since he went to Cal and he’s always been a good guy. I can’t sit here and say anything bad about him … He’s very to himself and relax and chill. He does his job, he does it well.”

            And Riley Cooper saying:

            “He’s awesome. I’m in the same room as him every single day,” Cooper said. “We’re both wideouts. So I’m with him every day, all day, meeting rooms, on the field. He’s a great player and he’s a good friend of mine. So I want him to stay.

            “I felt like he did a great job for us. You all saw him on the field. He put up career numbers and he worked hard in practice, and that’s a big thing for Chip and everyone. You’ve gotta work hard in practice for it to carry over to the game. It’s all about preparation and things like that. And he did a good job of that last year. I’m extremely proud of him. In any case, whatever happens to DeSean, it’s supposed to happen. But I don’t know what it’s gonna be.”

            And Trent Cole saying:

            “All I can tell you is I think he’s a good person,” Cole said. “I think he’s a really good person and he’s a great player. He’s a guy I’ll never forget. When my career’s done, to the end, that’s a guy I’ll never forget. Just the incredible plays he’s made and what he’s done for the Eagles.

            “As a teammate, I think he’s a great guy. He’s always been open to me. I’ve always been open to him. I’ve always talked to him. He’s always talked to me. I consider him one of my brothers. I think he’s a good guy. He has some things in the past that everybody keeps dwelling on. But from my standpoint as a teammate and as a brother to him, I think he’s a good guy.”

            And Todd Herremans saying:

            “There’s fast guys that come out every year in the draft,” Herremans said. “But there’s not DeSean Jacksons that come out every year in the draft. And those are the things that you have to weigh out when you’re going through this process.”

            All these posts were available on this excellent football blog I just found out about, Eagles 24/7.

            http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/27/desean-jacksons-teammates-want-back/

            They talk about Desean Jackson and Jairus Byrd too much, but otherwise, they’re pretty good.

          • Andy124

            Fill me in, was it said in a joking manner? Had to be an attempt at charm right?

      • Explorer51

        And you’re implying that Kelly didn’t know exactly what kind of role Jackson played in “dictating coverage?” And that he’s too prideful to be able to manage talented players? And that he doesn’t have multiple plans to replace Jackson’s output? Maybe, just maybe, Kelly has this stuff figured out regardless of what some fans and media members see so clearly…

        Unlike the injuries last year to critical starters Maclin, and then Vick, where Kelly had to adjust through “next man up,” the decision to move on from Jackson was pre-meditated and, presumably, well thought out.

        As the cliche says, time will tell; but in the interim, a coach that went from 4-12 to 10-6 in one season deserves the benefit of the doubt.

        • JofreyRice

          Possibly. We’re going to have to see. Should I be falling down, stricken blind for doubting a guy with one year of NFL experience under his belt? The Eagles surprised me in the turnaround, and I am very impressed with Chip’s first year, his overall offensive philosophy, and the way he’s incredibly attentive to detail–there is a lot to be hopeful about, going forward. But there are no sacred cows for me; this move smacks of hubris. You can’t win in the NFL without talent, and Jackson was a talented receiver for this team. I’m sure Kelly’s got a plan, but time will tell how well that plan works out.

          • Explorer51

            It is just that Kelly has undoubtedly digested and processed every stat, watched film of every play (probably from Jackson’s entire career), spent time with him in OTAs, training camp, four + months of practice, meetings, locker room time, 21 games…and he decided that the team he is trying to build would be better without him. Is Kelly capable of hubris? Of course, anyone with an abundance of self-confidence is; but he is just as likely to make clinical, sometimes unpopular, decisions based on his own set of tangible and intangible metrics. You have every right to be critical and skeptical but others, including me, have the same right to be trusting and optimistic.

            And both of us agree, time will tell.

  • Number 5 Will Always Love You

    Very good read. I still am in the camp that the move was primarily a money issue. Jackson wanted more security and the team wanted more cap flexibility. I believe Coach Kelly is an analytics guy and probably didn’t see the value in having so much money tied up at the WR position for the next two years, while the team has needs to fill on defense.

    • Andy124

      upvote strictly for the name.

  • ICDogg

    “I think we have to be careful when discussing money as the primary reason for cutting Jackson. If you want to make the argument that Kelly didn’t see the value in dealing with Jackson at his current cost, that’s fine. Although I would say that he seemed like he wanted Jackson gone regardless of the price.”

    Sure it was primarily money. However whenever I say that everyone thinks I mean the Eagles are cheap, which I don’t. It’s just that they do not see value in spending $10M/yr on a wide receiver.

    • GEAGLE

      So you think if Desean told Howie:
      ‘Ay yo, Howie Rosenerd, if myself, Desean Jaccson wants to take a pay cut because myself bleeds green ya”….you think Desean wouldn’t be here?

      • Will

        I think if you are shopping him a year ago CK and company wanted him gone for over a year and it was a culmination of everything over the last 6 years Vick did his best to keep Deadskin DeSean mind right what we have here is a failure to communicate….

        • Maggie

          Actually he didn’t even ask. He said it “hasn’t been decided yet”!!!!!! Almost turned my stomach. I don’t care one way or the other about RGIII, but he is the star on that team, the quarterback! And he felt it necessary to tweet out that he is not giving up his number! One day and already creating dissension.

      • ICDogg

        I’m saying that the Eagles felt that if they’re spending that kind of money on one player, he has to be a guy that is worth it in every way. And at a position of paramount importance.

      • Andy124

        Rosenerd… I chuckled.

    • Andy124

      testing

  • Jamie

    The team has remained silent? How many minutes/hours/lines-of-text have been devoted to this nightmare since it started? Chip has answered. Howie has answered.
    Before he was ever cut, they answered. How many different ways are you guys gonna ask the question?
    The answer won’t change; It’s about the team.

    Conduct off the field. Sleep monitors. Team meetings. Pissin’ matches with coaches on the field. General attitude. No trade offers. Keep him on the East Coast, too many homies out west.

    Look, Maclin’s back. One more receiver from the draft. If each gets a measly 661 yds, and MeSean’s production is equaled.
    Now, does ANYONE believe Maclin will finishing with 661 yards or less next year?
    I damn sure don’t. I see Jeremy finishing around 800-1,000. That leaves the rookie with needing to produce 325-500 yds.
    Easily done.
    And maybe we’ll get a little downfield blocking out of the deal, and Shady will top last year’s stellar numbers.

  • greenblood0118

    Hmm…took a 4-12 disaster and turned it into a 10-6 Division Champ one year later? Sign me up for benefit of the doubt.

  • Explorer51

    I just wish there would have been a reference to Tim’s “B-Dawk’s take” article; coming from the Man, this is pretty definitive:

    “This is not something that all of a sudden had the gang affiliation thing tied to it and that was the thing the Eagles looked at to say, ‘You know what? This is the thing we’re allowing him to walk for.’ No, it was all the other things that have happened over the time that he’s been here and the things he has not corrected in his character, some of the things that he does within the building with coaches and the like they were concerned about,” said Dawkins during an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic.

  • Matt W

    Does no one else see Bill Belichick’s influence here? He’s Chips
    closest NFL buddy and mentor and who else makes moves like this? (Randy
    Moss, Deion Branch, Wes Welker) Any of those names ring a bell?

    • JofreyRice

      Yeah, he took on Moss after Moss put up 500 yards in Oakland, and loafed his ass around all year–much more egregiously than Desean’s 2011 season, where apparently he was able to put up almost a thousand yards tanking every week. Belichick “Coached” Moss, into one of the best years for a receiver, ever. They moved on from Moss when he was cooked on the field. Jackson is far from that.

      Other notable malcontents/problem children Belichick has dealt with the headache for, in hopes to get something out of them on the field: Aaron Hernandez, Albert Haynesworth, Chad Johnson, Corey Dillon, LeGarrette Blount, Rob Gronkowski, Aqib Talib…holy crap. Too many players to even mention.

      • Matt W

        I’m more comparing how Bill & Chip dealt with these guys than the players themselves. I see Chip going to Bill and saying, “what should I do with Jackson?” Bill says, “dump him now while you can still call it part of remaking the team”. It also has the added bonus of showing every other player who the real boss in the organization is. Just like Bill.

        • JofreyRice

          I don’t agree. Everything Chip has said indicates he wants to win right away, not that he’s got some long-term overhaul in mind. As far as Belichick, I think the “Patriot Way” is a large umbrella if Bill thinks he can get something out of you on the field. Whether or not you think Desean is an “elite receiver”–whatever that means–he makes a difference in the games.

  • dislikedisqus

    I generally agree with this but would add that we don’t know where DeSean was going with his contract this year. Was he going to hold out for instance unless he got a restructure? We don’t know what he kept doing behind the scenes that ticked management off so much? But I have to believe thre was more going on than has been divulged, and I suspect it was pretty material, as the gratis release was irrational from a football perdpective; even though I went on record back in Jan that I thought they would trade him I never thought they ‘d just drop him.

  • travis papa

    All in all i don’t care but I would have waited till the draft to see if someone got itchy missing a guy or two and seeing who would fall in our laps. In the end could still cut him or dictate that he went to afc west

  • pkirkner

    Agree 100% Sheil. If you’re going to make a bold move like this, own it, don’t hide behind a vague two-sentence statement (attributed to no one in particular) about how it was a move made with “careful consideration”. Consideration of what? If you release your best wideout, who’s 27 years old and coming off a career year, your paying customers deserve an explanation not a dodge framed in legalese.

  • Will

    I like how everyone assumes this was a bad move with the draft not even over, training camp hasn’t started….I for one will wait till the Eagles play next year to rush into any judgement that the team is automatically worst off because we cut a WR…big deal…Now when we lost 4 out 5 O-Linemen I knew the season was going in the tank…DeSean had some great plays but nothing consistently he did was worth 10.5 million…I expect we go 11-5 this year with a harder schedule…This is a better team without DJax and that’s before the draft…I realize he was a fan favorite…but he had his limitations and CK loves versatility…

  • Kev_H

    Don’t off season workouts start before the draft? It always seems like the writers and fans are playing fantasy football and discount what it takes to prepare for the season. If Kelly is a professional, and I’m sure he is, he has an important, intentional purpose for all team activities. So it might make sense to some to wait and hang on hoping to get a draft pick, but to the actual coaches who prepare the product, getting down to business with no distractions is probably more important than an outside chance at a draft pick. It is easy to Monday morning QB, but my sense is that Jackson didn’t move beyond Washington because there was nowhere else to go. I base that on information indicating that neither the Panthers, Chiefs, Jets, or Raiders were in the mix, yet the media kept reporting- probably being fed by Jackson’s agents- that they were. If there was no market for Jackson the free-agent, that’s a strong indicator of how much of a trade market was out there for him.

    Additionally, Jackson at this point with the Eagles was not some off-beat flake to manage. He was one of the longest tenured, highest paid players- a position of de facto leadership. I understand (from years of reading) that the Philly reporters were comfortable with coddling Andy’s anything goes ways, but they weren’t getting the team anywhere for a reason. It doesn’t matter if you look like a dream-team on paper, it’s a team sport and you have to create an environment for the team to succeed as a unit, not primarily for individuals to put up numbers and highlights.

    • PhillySean

      I’m inclined to agree that it was time for the three ring circus that is DeSeangate to pack up and leave town so that decision makers could focus on the business of football.

  • John J. King

    Point 1. No buyers = no sales.
    Point 10. What if what they have would provoke a lawsuit? You know, as an employer you lose if you say anything detrimental about a departed employee whether it’s the truth or not. I spent a career keeping schtum about people I had to let go even though they were all warranted.

  • Maggie

    First the $16 million is NOT for this year. That is misleading, Sheil. It is for the next 2 years, assuming he stays around and is not restructured. Second, the following was posted on the BDawk thread.
    ” Foles started 10 games, DeSean caught 46 balls for 744 yards those games, that’s on pace for a 1,200 yard season. Not bad. But, almost half of those yards(46% or 345 out of 744) game from 2 games, Minnesota and Oakland.
    Oakland was a bad team playing an historically bad game, and the Eagles probably won’t often fall behind by 20 points and end up throwing 48 passes vs 8 carries for McCoy. So, let’s remove those games. In fairness, let’s also remove the first Dallas game, where I believe Foles was probably concussed early on and played terribly.
    That leaves us with 7 games in which DeSean caught 28 balls for 378 yards. Over a full season that would be 64 catches for 864 yards. In what universe is that worth $10 million ? ”
    Stats should be relevant.

  • Caseymg69

    Sheil, as always great analysis. I think cutting DJAX was the worst move since Buddy Ryan cut Chris Carter. I’m not saying DeSawn is a future Hall of Famer, but until I see the proverbial smoking gun on his off field activities, I will continue to believe this move stinks. Are the Eagles a better team without DeSawn? Is Washington a better team with him? The answers are 1) no and 2) yes. End of argument.

    • Brazilnut

      “worst move since Buddy Ryan cut Christ Carter” This has to be a troll.

      • UKEagle99

        Yes, naive. Chris had problems and needed a change of scenery, we don’t know he would have gone on to have the same success here, he could have ended up out of the league for all we know.

        • Andy124

          Chris sure seems to think so.

          • RIP illa

            Cris also tweeted to DJax something to the effect of, ‘let’s hope that this is the 2nd biggest mistake the Eagles made…’. So he does see some similarities and shares in the sentiment, that this could be the worst move since Buddy cut himself. Weird, and not being disingenuous with that weird.

          • Andy124

            I saw that too. philly.com tried to get on his case about it. I think Chris was just trying to say something supportive in 140 characters or less that would maybe be meaningful to DJ. I wouldn’t take it as an intentional contradiction to the “buddy saved my life” revelation.

          • Brazilnut

            He obviously is taking it light hearted. Hes said multiple times that the best thing for the Eagles and him was to cut him.

  • UKEagle99

    A good article, Sheil. It puts the nail in the coffin on this one.

    A for the reason the Eagles aren’t saying anything I think my Mum summed it up. “If you can’t say anything nice, then don’t say anything at all.”

  • Glenn

    This article is spot on Sheil. The Eagles now have another need, at WR, when they could have used the draft for other needs, such as safety, LB, and corner. And they can’t really use the money they saved on worthy free agents. And they gave up on the chance to get draft pick compensation. I do not buy the arguments that they had to do what they did, when they did it. This article hit on all the points perfectly.

  • Wayne Charles

    One Crip don’t stop this show;-)

    Eagles will remain a top 5 offense. They have many weapons that can replace the production of DJax. I was a doubter of Chip in the beginning but I’m starting to understand the method behind his madness. He reminds me of Greg Popovich of the Spurs. He is in complete control and if you are not on the same page you are out of the book quickly. I wish DJax the best of Luck but won’t miss him very much.

    Get your popcorn ready! The Skins games are going to be incredible!

  • Brandon Baltic

    Great article Sheil as always. I wanted to respond to #9 specifically.

    I was of the opinion that this was purely a financial move and the gang stuff was just a cover for it. Although coming off a career year, it just seemed like the Eagles did not believe his play warranted a salary of 11m in 2014 (by the way PFF valued him at 7m in 2013). Understandable at first, but now after researching their cap situation more I’m starting to agree this was not just a financial decision.

    However, there are some points I disagree with. FA is not over. Although not household names, there are still solid players left on the market that can come in and be contributors and provide depth to the team immediately. Also, James Casey is on the roster because 2 of his 4m this year is guaranteed. So they only need to pay him an extra 2m to keep him around.

    The problem is for cutting Desean to make financial sense they need to be spending the cap savings from his salary this year. They would have had ~14m in cap room by keeping him so they’d need to spend over 14m now between FAs and the draft to say yes we are allocating some of his money elsewhere in other players that we couldn’t have done if we had kept him. Considering who is left on the market and a lack of any connection whatsoever to any FAs since the Desean release, it just seems like they aren’t going to get close to that 14m in spending.

    I could be wrong and they could go on a spending spree after the draft on the remaining FAs but it just doesn’t seem that way as of now. Yes Desean would have been overpaid in 2014, but if you aren’t spending his cap savings on better players this year why not wait to release him in 2015? If they don’t spend past 14m this year, the only savings they’ll get is 4m against the 2015 cap. Clearly Desean is worth more then 4m and this becomes a bad financial move.

  • poetx99

    great article, sheil.

  • greensoul

    Couple of points. Eagles did Desean a favor by releasing him now. They couldn’t trade him, but could have waited until much later to release him.

    The Eagles can’t explain why they released home because it would put Desean in a bad light. They again are doing Desean a favor here as well.

    Don’t know why Eagles are getting hammered for this. Obviously, releasing Desean is not good from a football perspective. No one disputes this. But, there is obviously something there; it makes no sense otherwise. The Eagles have never been a stupid or non-classy organization. Desean should thank the Eagles.

  • Jim Blizzard

    “Instilling the right culture almost always takes time. And inevitably there will be some who balk against your standards. But, you must have the courage to confront and even remove the dissenters from your program, even though they might be highly talented. Ultimately, you must believe that your successful culture will attract, support, and retain the right talent and people, which will help you prevail and succeed in the long run.” ~Bill Walsh

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    Thank you Sheil and Parks for providing hard evidence to debunk the myths about Jackson being a 1 trick pony. As well as the ridiculous notion that Jackson had no chemistry with Foles. Not that it will stop some fans and radio people from making the same claims ad infinitum.

    Kelly has made a huge decision. Time will tell if it blows up in his face. I have always considered the NFL a player’s league, not a system league. If you look hard at any successful coach they usually have a dominating, pro bowl caliber quarterback and at least some dominating players on defense. Both types of players would be successful in any system.

  • DCSportsFan2277

    I would like to thank the Birdies for allowing the Skins to sign DJax! I can’t wait for the new season to start. This is like manna from heaven and DJax makes our sorry defense better by helping to keep the offense on the field longer. Good luck trying to cover all the receivers we now have!

    The only way this blows up for the Skins is if DJax gets injured or does something moronic. It certainly won’t hurt from a financial POV.

    You can bet that the 2 games with the Birdies will be fun to watch! Pick your poison, Garcon or DJax or Roberts or Reed or Morris or Helu or Hankerson. You can’t double cover anyone when the field is spread and if you don’t get pressure on the RG3 he will burn you as well!

    Once again…thanks Chip! HTTR!

  • KimbaFuzz

    Great posting, Sheil. As always.

  • Don

    me love jackson me think he perfect me think he great . Come on ,where have you been the last 3 years? Not a team man ,Take a look at his stats along with Macklin , close to the same and with no shit to put up with