Wake-Up Call: Kiper Through Eagle Eyes

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Mel Kiper Jr. held a conference call with media members Thursday and touched on several subjects that could interest Eagles fans. Some highlights:

(Note: I linked to some film of each of the players mentioned, courtesy of DraftBreakdown, in case you want to study any of them a bit more.)

– Kiper is very high on this wide receiver class. He has nine going in the first round alone, and thinks quality will still be there later in the draft.


"There's going to be an opportunity I think at wide receiver to see guys in the third, fourth, fifth round get it done. That's going to be a very deep position with 19 underclassmen coming out at that spot."

Kiper has the Eagles selecting LSU receiver Odell Beckham, Jr. with the No. 22 overall pick.

He could show off elite straight-line speed at the combine, but he's particularly explosive out of breaks, creating separation and making him dangerous with the ball in his hands. His speed also translates to the return game. Beckham could be a good fit in Philly not just because he's a good receiver for a team that could use help in that department, but because he's versatile, and can work in the slot or on the edge.

-- Kiper mentioned Buffalo's Khalil Mack, Auburn's Dee Ford and Stanford's Trent Murphy as three of the top 3-4 outside linebackers in the draft.

-- Sheil and I wrote about the Eagles' cornerback situation Thursday. This is what Kiper had to say about the corner crop in this draft: "Cornerback has turned out to be a pretty decent position overall. Not a lot of first-rounders. There's probably going to be only two to three first-round corners. A lot of second and third-round corners so you can wait a little bit maybe on that spot."

-- Kiper called Louis Nix, III from Notre Dame the best 3-4 nose tackle in the draft. He has him going to Pittsburgh at 15.

-- Northern Illinois safety Jimmie Ward got some love.

"Jimmie Ward is on outstanding playmaker. He's not the big safety but I think he fits today's NFL with his coverage ability and the fact that he is around the action so much, makes so many impact plays. I think he could go second or third round. I think he is going to be a fast riser. I like him. The safety position is not tremendously deep. You could argue that he is the third best safety...After Ha Ha Clinton-Dix from Alabama and Calvin Pryor of Louisville, you can put him at the third safety spot, and that would be a second-round possibility."

-- He sees Clemson QB Tajh Boyd as being a fifth or sixth-round pick.

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WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Mayor Michael Nutter said that Philadelphia could host a Super Bowl "better than anyone else." From NJ.com.

"It would provide a substantial economic benefit to the city and its growing hospitality sector," Nutter said. "It would mean an international focus on a city that is emerging as a desired destination for international visitors. And it would offer us the opportunity to market Philadelphia to a national audience. When it comes to doing big events and rolling out the red carpet, no city does it any better than the City of Brotherly Love and Sisterly Affection."

Philadelphia would be the ideal place for NFL Commissioner Rodger Goodell to award a Super Bowl for another reason, Nutter said: city residents.

“Philadelphia has some of the most ardent and best informed sports fans in the country," he said. "And having the Super Bowl at Lincoln Financial Field would be a tremendous development in our city’s sports history."

Todd McShay sees Michigan State corner Darqueze Dennard going No. 22 to the Eagles.

Defense should be the Eagles' priority if the right player is available, in particular looking for an edge rusher and improving the athleticism and depth in the secondary. Dennard is a proven commodity with adequate size, good top-end speed and very good instincts and fluidity in coverage, and he was a legit shutdown corner against several opponents' top targets this season. Louisville's Pryor could also be worth a look here, and other cornerback options include Florida's Loucheiz Purifoy and Marcus Roberson, Florida State's Lamarcus Joyner, Ohio State's Bradley Roby and TCU's Jason Verrett.

COMING UP

We'll conclude our offseason outlook series with some thoughts on the safety position.

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  • cliff henny

    9 WRs in 1st round?! if you needed a 2nd reason, after Manziel 1st overall, to ignore Kiper this draft season, that’s it.

    • NickS1

      Yeah, that was a strikingly high number. I was thinking half that at most.

    • EaglefaninAZ

      No kidding. That’s just nuts.

    • GEAGLE

      Yea his Manziel talk is laughable….Bill Obrien didn’t even hire an offensive coordinator. I’m sure texans owner would love the sexy Manziel as a pic, but it’s not a good way to start a relationship with your new HC and offensive coordinator..If Manziel goes number 1, then I would assume the brown or Vikings moved up to get him…if Texans keep that pick it would be Clowney,BOrtles,Mathews or even the OT from Auburn

      And 9 WRs is silly…at 22, I bet we could have the 3rd or 4th WR off the board

    • Myke Lowery

      I still think Browns want to get Johnny football which is why so many coaches turned down the job.

      • GEAGLE

        I’m sure every owner in the top five wants Manziel..he is the sexy splash that creates noise…the good owners won’t force him onto the coaching staff, considering browns fire coaches after one year, it’s safe to say Cleveland doesn’t have one of the good owners so they most likely are in play for Manziel…could see the raiders wanting him too

        • NickS1

          I blame Banner, not Haslam. He’s too busy trying to get out of federal court.

      • Johnny Domino

        Shannie Jr is talking up Kirk Cousins, like things in Cleveland could get any worse.

        • dnabrice

          I’ll miss them being in the NFC East.

        • Maggie

          Cleveland is poisonous right now, so I think Cousins deserves better. There are those who think he could be a starter so would have to get out of Washington somehow, but Cleveland? Shanahan?

    • JofreyRice

      That would be nuts. It just has not happened in recent years. Watkins, Evans and Allen Robinson look like the three surefire firstround guys, to me. I like Beckham, but I think #22 is too high.

  • TNA

    Kiper’s rationale for his mock draft picks are based on a team-need logic. Given that many teams draft BPA …

  • George

    Made me laugh, coming back from last year and never gets old

  • cliff henny

    9 WRs picked 1st round non-sense aside, would love the pick, go batshit crazy if howie got him in tradeback around 30-35 and nabbed extra pick. seems like #22 would be his max daft number. OBJ has great hands, high points and fights for the ball, and has awesome YAC. on top of all that, he’s elite punt returner, to point teams stopped punting to him. every return seems like it required touchdown saving tackle, kickoffs too. could re-sign coop and Mac, work him in as 4th, he’ll destroy m2m coverage and solve ST return issue.

    • GEAGLE

      I need my defense to improve, but trading back and coming away with OBJ would be awesome…but I don’t understand why kooky Mel would think we would draft him at 22, the gel is starting to screw with his brain

      • cliff henny

        i’m 50/50 on Kiper. think he knows his stuff, and give the guy some due for being the first daft guru-or at least seriously helped draft become the tv show it is. but, this point, he’s more of a caricature of the guy we met in ’80s. as much espn’s fault, they start bringing him and mcshay (think tries to stay little more grounded) out earlier and earlier, so both have to make almost 4 months of filler s talk now.

        • NickS1

          You mean to tell me that starting next year’s mock right now, and all of the mocks that come before the Sr. Bowl, Combine, and NFLFA are mostly a bunch of noise?….. I don’t buy it.

        • GEAGLE

          I get all that, but the leading expert in an entire field should be more credible then that. I think he is just a puppet, who GMs and agents use and give counter intel to…feel like his predictions are more on “what he hears from people around the league” then it is based on him watching film and forming an opinion on the prospects…

          Then again you really can’t blame him too much considering teams don’t even set their draft board til mid April, and he goes out on a limb way before he has combine intel, interview intl, medical intel, so you can’t even really expect him to be accurate…

          Also the perception of prospects can change in a hurry. every year! before the combine there are top 15picks we grossly over estimate..think Dee Milner,Star,Sharif at number 4…it’s just what happens when we want to rush the draft process and start talking about it before teams even test out at the combine
          ..
          I don’t really get anything out of Kiper and McShay..if I have to actually listen to someone’s opinion on draft prospect it’s only Mayock and Cossel, because they aren’t basing what they tell you off agents using them by filling them with counter intel, they actually watch tape closely and give you their opinion of the player their eyes actually see…and I can respect that whether they are correct or wrong

          McShay did just say that the prospect who is being over rated the most right now is Barr and that he doesn’t think he will be a top 10 pick…for me it’s simple, if he gets to 16, move up and take him before Dallas does!!

          • anon

            If you can accurately project the draft 3 months out, i’m sure you could make a lot more money in Vegas, or a hedge fund. He’s basically making mocks to give people something to talk about — which works.

          • GEAGLE

            Really?

          • mksp

            he’s one of the highest rated draft guys out there, in terms of accuracy.

          • GEAGLE

            Who the hell ever gets more than like 4 first round picks right?

        • Johnny Domino

          +1 for “daft guru” whether you meant it or not.

        • Explorer51

          I think they start talking draft earlier and earlier because fans are interested earlier, this board being a prime example. Lots of folks here have been talking Eagles’ possibles since the Fall! And once your favorite team’s season is over, you start debating and arguing who the team should pick (I’ll bet even Seahawks fans are already thinking next year)…because it’s fun. I think the Senior Bowl coverage is a prime example of how this has exploded; Birds24/7, Philly.com, Iggles Blitz, among many others now go down to Mobile not for the game but for the practices and to watch guys get measured. And we anxiously wait for their articles…OK, a bit of an overstatement but I went from Sheil to Lawlor to Kempski and I’ll bet a bunch of you did as well.

          ESPN knows that guys like Kiper and McShay will be disagreed with but they make their money on TV ratings and website clicks, not on consensus. They just have to be accurate enough…everything else is show biz!

          • cliff henny

            i started spring of ’13-who knew foles was going to go 29/2? not sure which came first, espn creating draft into an event, or fans blood thirsty desire for everything nfl.

        • JofreyRice

          you have to tip your hat. He was the only game in town for a long time.

          • GEAGLE

            Anyone who creates an entire industry had done something right

  • Papa

    The brilliance of Kiper. 2011 NFL draft pick 18 of the 5th rd Dion Lewis kiper grade 72. Pick 23 of the 5th rd Richard Sherman kiper grade 30. Obviously no one was high on him since he fell to the 5th but kiper pretty much graded him out as an UDFA at best it takes skill to be that bad at your job & for people to call you an expert

  • GEAGLE

    I would really like OBJ, many think he is the best slot machine in this draft class, and he would finally give us a dangerous return man, but I don’t see it at 22. The earliest I would want him is like #29 which would mean we aquired an extra 4th round pick trading back

    • anon

      rather play a fa than spend a 1st on a slot/return guy. Need big boys.

      • GEAGLE

        Nah, WR is a position we need to get younger at, not overpay for other teams FA, but like you, I would prefer drafting bigger WRs such as Jordan Mathews, Devante Adams, KB, A-Rob..but I can live with OBJ as a first round pick if it means we aquired an extra 4th

        Seeing a lot of fans starting to want to Raid Lousvilles defense in the first two rounds…and there is NO WAY I would ever complain if we drafted Calvin Pryor in round 1 and Marcus smith in round 2(think Marcus is a REAL legit possible target for us…in a dream world we could trade back in one of those rounds and still come away with those two, but that may be a little too ambitious

        • Rahkem

          Look at guys like stephen hill , Jonathan Baldwin etc. Its easy to miss on tall guys when you get caught up in the possibility. IF OBJ is the next gregg jennings in the slot i will take that in the first round any day. I dont need a 6’3 guy, i just want guys who can make tough catches in traffic and are explosive after the catch. OBJ fits that build. I want a reciever who PLAYS like hes 6’5 , he doesnt neccarily have to BE 6’5.

  • anon

    Danario Alexander has second ACL surgery on injured knee.

    The New York Daily News reports the Jets “covet” free agent wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and Emmanuel Sanders.

    • GEAGLE

      Wow….that’s a shame, especially right before FA

      • cliff henny

        whatever is left associated with signing bonuses are taken as dead money, but believe whatever is left on yearly guarenteed base is transferred. hill is less than 1m, and can june 1st split trade dead money on graham’s 3.2m. so, it does make some sense, if they like hill, his salary of 1m would be easy to work in.

        • NickS1

          All base transfers. Not sure what you’re saying exactly with “can june 1st split trade dead money on graham’s 3.2m.” Assuming you mean we can June 1st him and split the dead into 1.7 over two years or eat all dead money in trade.

        • GEAGLE

          Thank you kind sir…can always count on you to make sense of the dollaz

      • NickS1

        Dutch was in love with Geno, who oddly enough, was captain checkdown himself in college with 1st and 2nd round NFL talent at WR.

      • Papa

        Stephen hill can’t catch. If they signed Maclin and/or Sanders I could see both Holmes & hill being shown the door. 1 can’t stay healthy and the other can’t catch or run routes

        • GEAGLE

          You know how many WRs and TEs “couldn’t catch” early in their career?

      • Token

        Again, you always put combine performance way above being able to play football. You get to obsessed with athletic ability alone. There is a ton of super athletic guys that dont make it in the NFL.

        Hill is a loser. Not the type of guy you want on the team, especially when you consider hes not very good at playing football to being with.

        • GEAGLE

          Dude..are you an idiot? I’m not counting on hill for a damn thing, but an interesting Long shot you bring into camp to see if he can make the team…no different than Arrelius Benn! Clifton Gaethers….we are talking about trading a player we will cut for a player another team is about to cut! and you think I overvalue that player? Lol get a clue…it’s called a FLIER!!!!!!! As in low Risk, a high reward, low probability of it working out,,,btw, people like you said the same things about Alshon jeffries the year before. You are in no position to say a second round pick of a year ago, can’t be coached up enough to rebound his career, so if you are just gonna blow smoke out your ass, do that under someone else’s posts…thanks
          ..
          Now I’m overvaluing Stephan Hill..hahahahahah get a clue. I guess Momah is going to the probowl too

      • fran35

        The Stephen Hill situation could be similar to the Roddy White situation in ATL when Vick was there…..Underacheiver and possible bust. Then Vick leaves and a QB who can make pro level reads and pass accurately comes in and he blossoms into a solid WR

    • evanphilly

      Just read this as well. If the Jets over-pay for Maclin, so be it. Also does give some credence to Kiper for having the Eagles take a WR in the first round…some.

      • GEAGLE

        Maclin isn’t even a free agent yet. I don’t expect anyone to even get the chance to bid on Maclin and Coop…and I certainly can’t see Maclin taking money to go play with a pathetic QB. I would be much more concerned about KC trying to sign him, then the jets

        • evanphilly

          I would like to think Maclin wouldn’t go to the Jets no matter how much $$ they throw at him. But if he gets a multi-year deal with some nice guaranteed coin up front, who knows what he does. I know he did say he would be cool with a 1-year, show-me contract, but I think he will go where the $$ is.

        • NickS1

          “You don’t got the money? F*ck you, pay me.” That’s life in the NFL. They throw enough guaranteed money at him, he goes.

          • GEAGLE

            The premise of my post was that we extend him before teams even get to offer him any money..and I doubt a Multi time ACL tearer will just be showered with money as soon as FA begins

          • NickS1

            Maclin’s had a better overall career than Sanders, and noticeably so. ACL tears, despite the awfulness of them (learning first hand), isn’t as damning of an injury as it used to be.

          • GEAGLE

            Ok…

  • GEAGLE

    Really hoping we don’t take a developmental QB before round 7. We need a depth, youth makeover across the board. If we hit on all our non QB picks in the top 5 rounds like last year we can add 3 offensive players and 3 defenders..tho I’d prefer 4 defenders and two offensive weapons…but I really hope Howie is able to add two picks in rounds 3-5

  • anon

    Joe Webb getting cut, honestly, i think we take a look.

    • cliff henny

      not only no, but F no. iggleblitz comment section is monopolized by someone uttering joe webb nonsense as it is. that guy signle handedly ruined that site for me.

      • fran35

        The problem with this comment is that I am only allowed to upgrade it *one* time. HAHA

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        :)

        • cliff henny

          yeah, you’ve gone 15 rds with him. after posting that, was curious so checked out his lasted post…so redundent and ignoring any facts.

    • JofreyRice

      As a WR, why not? I’d take a flyer on him. Could be a younger Brad Smith type. Let them duke it out in TC, and keep the better guy. As a QB, No. Hell no. Hopefully he’s realized that’s not what he’s going to be. Great size, speed and athletic ability for a WR, tho, and the history of QBing might help him understand coverage and make smart decisions on the option routes.

      • anon

        Yeah as a better Brad Smith.

      • GEAGLE

        Are you trying to resurrect Dutch?

        • NickS1

          YES! PLEASE!

          • cliff henny

            Candyman…Candyman…Candyman…Candyman….Candy

  • Cranky Caucasian

    The only reason I’d ever want the Super Bowl in Philly is if they change it where the top seeded team is hosting it. Otherwise, no thanks.

  • JofreyRice

    Anyone listen to the Ross Tucker Football Podcast? Pretty good stuff. He had cap specialist Andrew Brandt on there (rumor is that Brandt started his career as an intern for our resident cap guru, cliff henny) and he was saying that with the way caps are set up, a team that drafts well–i.e. has a majority of it’s starters on rookie contracts–should be able to fit “6 to 8″ elite-level contracts. His other caveat to this flexibility is that the team can’t just keep re-structuring money to be paid out later to non-rostered players; that the cap had to be “clean”. (See Dallas cap as an example of the exact opposite, Arizona doing something similar where Larry Fitz is scheduled to make like 23 million next year).

    It got me thinking, do we have that many “elite” contracts? Shady? DJacc? DeMeco? Peters? I’m guessing elite means top 10 at that position per annum. Being that the Eagles have had draft success recently, could they actually afford two big contracts? Like Mike Johnson and Byrd?

    • Token

      Yea Shady, jackson…….. Figure Peters and Ryans will both be gone within the next 1-2 years. People want to save money for the likes of Kendricks and Kelce. But those guys are getting big contracts. Foles probably wont get a huge one for a QB either id guess. Of course I guess that depends how this year goes.

      But the without question could pay Byrd. Its ridiculous if they dont.

      Are you high on MJ, money aside? Maybe im missing something about him. But I dont see it. Especially when you do start bringing money into the conversation.

      • NickS1

        Not that you asked, but I’m intrigued by MJ, more so than just high on on him. Monster of a dude who’s a freak athlete for his size (6’7″ 285). Someone posted some excerpt about him yesterday and he’s the kind of player that you can line up in most spots in the front 7 and add much confusion to the QB. He’s coming off a 3 sack season so he could potentially be had for cheaper than what his value might be. An incentive-laden deal is ideal for this guy. Losting Geno Atkins hurt him a lot last season.

        • Token

          I usually try to not get too caught up in the freak athlete thing. It doesnt mean the guy is a real good football player. If you can have a guy that size who is great at what he does then obviously im all for it. But I dont think it usually works out like that. And the Bengals would probably just pay him if they thought he was a elite rusher.

          Facts are he just didnt show much high level ability in 4 years. And hes been on a good D. Especially in a contract year like this.

          Id be very skeptical of him in general. And I wouldnt touch him near 10 million.

          And the guy taking Coles spot, I honestly dont care about his coverage ability. Sure itd be a plus. But that guys is gonna drop 15% of the time if not less. Its not enough to matter. And if hes stuck guarding a good TE then you messed up anyway.

          I just want a guy that can make it a bad day for a QB. Force the offense to give him attention. I dont see it with MJ. And We dont have Geno Atkins either.

          • NickS1

            Like I said, I’m intrigued. As much as you don’t get caught up in freakish athleticism, name a stud OLB that isn’t freakish in some athletic aspect. Simply being a technician alone w/o being freakishly athletic in some way, shape, or form doesn’t get you to the QB.

          • Token

            Im meaning the size to speed aspect of MJ. Thats generally what you are talking about when you hear “freakish athlete” thrown around. A 6’7 guy with speed. I just dont care about his size if he cant get to the QB.

          • NickS1

            Well, if/when Chip and Howie talk to him, I’m sure they’ll assess his ability now as well as how much they think they can coach him to fix any problems in getting there. Coaching the techniques to accomplish that goal is the unknown variable in his time in CIN.

          • JofreyRice

            Just to add my 2 cents, I think Zimmer’s a fantastic coach. I don’t look at Johnson as a guy that’s going to give you much more than what he’s done, except maybe natural improvement due to experience. I think most Free Agents should be approached as WYSIWYG, but in Johnson’s case, I think it’s especially true.

          • NickS1

            I think he is, too. Was driving at the possibility that they teach different things there. Wasn’t he a DE there? Certainly has an effect as to what’s being taught vs. what he’s gonna be taught as an OLB here.

          • anon

            You don’t think he was coached well in Cinci? They have one of the best front 7 in the game.

          • NickS1

            Doesn’t mean it’s the same. Maybe Davis and Minter have different techniques they want to see was what I was driving at.

          • Token

            I think there was some pretty decent defensive coaching in Cincy. They got a lot out of some guys. Id say its another red flag for MJ. But id trust Chip if they decide to go that route.

          • anon

            Remember how bad terrence newman was in Dallas? He’s pretty good in cincy. Wonder if we could trade BG for Morris Claiborne?

          • NickS1

            I’ll respond to you the same I did with anon and JR. He was a 4-3 DE there, so the coaching is a variable because it’s different techniques, not poor quality coaching.

      • JofreyRice

        I dunno. Was talking with a guy from Cincy Jungle on twitter that thinks his motor is awesome, and says he’s done enough 3-4 OLB stuff that he thinks it’s legit. As I said somewhere else, if you believe Caplan, it’s the reason the price tag would be so high. Didn’t realize he had already been franchised once–which is a pretty big financial vote of confidence for what they think of him as a defender, considering the franchise $ for a DE; now, you also have to take into account that Cincy franchised Stacey Andrews–same ownership group, coaches, etc.

        I don’t want another Berwin. I want a real edge threat, not a guy where you have to take this into account and that into account, and create some composite picture of him as a passrusher. Just get to the QB, hit him, sack him, force him to fumble. Beat real pass protectors, not running backs and 3rd TEs.

        Personally, I’d rather have Barr. But if we don’t think there’s any shot at getting him, or want the flexibility to just galvanize the offense with a WR like Evans or Robinson in the first, I’d be OK with it. Imagine coming out of this draft with Evans, DeAnthony Thomas and Colt Lyerla? And adding say Byrd and Michael Johnson in FA? Seems like the conventional wisdom now is that you have to be outstanding on one side of the ball to win it all. I think that would put us in the ballpark on offense–you’d just have to hope Foles couldn’t deliver the ball if you were trying to defend it all.

        • Token

          Yea pretty much agree with the last two paragraphs. Like I said below, I really dont even care about the future OLBs coverage ability. If they can get to the QB thats all I care about.

          The best thing people can say about our OLBs now is that they set the edge well. Its like a new buzzword. Thats fine and all, but in this scheme getting to the QB from OLB is what you need above anything else. And if Barwin is staying put then the guy opposite of him better be able to really wreck havoc.

          Right now my whole offseason kind of hinges on Byrd. Thats such a giant gaping hole that I have no confidence they could fill in the draft. Its like a perfect storm of circumstance that he could be available to them. The perfect fit for what they need.

          After that I really dont know what to expect. Im not confident enough in MJs pass rushing ability to say hes the answer opposite Barwin. But if they feel he is and something like your offensive draft scenario plays out, I guess you have to be ok with that.

          The offense is their ticket to the SB so they better make it elite. Defense just has to be above average. Theres a ways to go to get there.

          • anon

            So you just want to get beat by the screen game all day huh?

          • Token

            Sure. Id rather get to the QB and have ILBs good enough to help with the screen game. Its as if you honestly think great 3-4 defenses rely on having OLBs that are real good at “setting the edge”. No, they need to get to the QB.

            Its the same as saying in a 4-3 you want DEs that are good run defenders first and foremost. Its a silly narrative.

            “setting the edge” well should be a bonus not a defining trait in the guy we are looking for.

            I think most of this crap just comes from people that are uncomfortable with admitting Cole is past his prime. Guy had a great career here. But the time comes for every player.

          • anon

            Different Ds rely on different things. The main focus of our D is stopping the run + not giving up plays behind the safety (the antithesis of the 2012 season). Even given that our #1 focus wasn’t getting to the QB we finished in the middle of the league in sacks.

            But to your point i think we’ve seen that our ILBs are liabilities in coverage. I think what we ask from our LBs is tough, need ones that can cover + rush QB + good at stuffing run, i don’t think you find those guys unless you pay for them — best you’ll get is a Barwin who can do 2 of 3.

          • Token

            Sorry but thats kind of a load of crap. You really think our OLBs first priority wasnt rushing the passer? Even if as a defense you wanna stop the run, in a 3-4 your OLBs better be able to rush the passer. If both of them have a top skill of “setting the edge” you are in trouble.

            No defense in the league has a plan of not getting to the QB. Thats absurd. What you are saying would mean Billy Davis really is a dope.

            And you cant look at sacks in a vacuum. Barwin had the majority of his sacks when he was unblocked. Literally. Cole got his against teams that couldnt block and disappeared the other 85% of the season.

            I still process how people can argue that we are ok at OLB. Or that Cole starting is a good thing. We watched a totally different season I guess.

          • anon

            So every other team’s sacks came by running through 10 guys?

            Pass rush is a big area of concern, goes without saying. But i think it’s a deeper question than finding a 43 DE rush stud and putting him at OLB. They want lots of versatility on the team. See Curry who never sees the field.

          • GEAGLE

            You think EVERYONE wouldn’t want to cut Cole at this very moment and add Aldon Smith? The realistic view of the situation is college OLBs drafted outside the top 10 need to add weight, and start off as situational Nickle pass rushers….why? Because they aren’t ready to play the run early on….we are on the hook for a lot of dead money with Cole, and the one stinking fortunate redeeming quality is he is actually one of the best against the run, so while EVERY SINGLE EAGLES fan would most likely LOVE to Cut Cole right now and replace him With an EDGE TERROR who will rack up 15 sacks per year, those fans who talk about Cole playing next year don’t do so, because that’s there dream scenario, they talk about it because it’s one of the more likely scenario…

            And half the fans don’t even know the real issues on defense. Nickle defense is what needs immediate and DRASTIC upgrading, we can live with our current base defense(minus safety of course)…

        • GEAGLE

          If Barr falls to 16, I think we have to strongly consider jumping the cowboys to nab him

    • cliff henny

      i dont think eagles could or would do 2 elite contracts this year. 1, byrd or ward is fine(heavily front loaded), then 2 or 3 barwin/casey types(mid level-cooper type with small signing bonus-2yrs contracts), and 2 or 3 fletcher/soap/chung types(nominal to no SB-1yr contracts). the issue is being able to front load the elite FA contracts enough to get them to only be 3yr max liability. preferably, Eagles want to only go 2 yrs (if using last year as new norm). start signing 2 big FA, then cant front load them enough, so dead money goes out, on byrd/ward, to 4 yrs. then the sal cap hits are increased for yrs 2 and on for both byrd/ward and MJ and that has trickle down effect on ’15s cap. eagles value cap flexibility too much right now.
      .
      as for elite contracts, think alot of this has to do with FA vs draft. it’s alot easier to work in money to guys teams have some control over.
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      specifically on MJ, maybe instead of 1 byrd/ward, looking at 2 cary williams type deals (mj and clemmons…idk just tossing an example). Eagles spent last off season. take soap ’15 out of equation, eagles will pay near 45m over 2 yrs if remaining 5 stick, including soaps ’13 pay. they wrote checks, just controlled liability of years.

      • GEAGLE

        Did you cap guys see the post I wrote on the CB thread about how much money should be spent on our 5 safeties combined? Hope to get some thoughts from those of you I respect

    • GEAGLE

      Where would I find his podcast? I like Ross and respect him more then most analysts

      • JofreyRice

        Here is the RSS.

        http://www.podcastone.com/program?action=viewProgram&programID=583

        I never really liked Matt Williamson when he did a podcast with him for ESPN, but I like this one. Brings in some good guests. The in-cast ads are a little annoying, but he’s gotta pay the bills, too.

        • GEAGLE

          Thank you sir…long drive ahead of me, this will come in handy!!

  • Vet Linc

    Sisterly Affection?????

    Pandering knows no bounds apparently.

    • Maggie

      And who buys all those jerseys and caps for their husbands, dads, sons, brothers, cousins and grandfathers at Christmas?

  • Sven

    I don’t think we will be drafting “Risk” players in the 1st or 2nd rounds. If you listen to Howie, he insists they will draft players who they see playing for the Eagles for the next 10 years. I strongly believe it will be LB or OG in the 1st, CB or S in the 2nd.

  • Maggie

    Paraphrasing a quote from the most recent Super Bowl winning coach. After talent, they look for “grit”. The determination to stick it out. He didn’t mention drafting for need or BPA. Or glamorous names.

  • Chris Jones

    Draft kelvin Benjamin, move maclin to the slot with djax as the #1 receiver and
    Ertz at tight end. Now in the second I like deon bucannone or Jimmie ward. 3rd round Kyle van noy and de’anthony thomas