Why They Believe In Chip

NFL: NFC Wildcard Playoff-New Orleans Saints at Philadelphia Eagles

When asked why he was so confident that his program could work in the NFL, Chip Kelly offered a somewhat surprising response.

“I wasn’t confident,” he said. “I had a system and a plan that we were going to go in, but I didn’t know what the outcome was going to be until it was all finished. But I think we played sound fundamental football, and I think that’s what we preach on a daily basis to our players. I think it’s still a game of 11-on-11, and I think a lot of things we do schematically match up 11-on-11. It’s a fundamental game, and I think that’s what our coaches teach. I thought we brought in a bunch of really good teachers that could implement the plan that we had in place, and we felt this would be the best plan for us this year going forward.”


Going into next season, new faces will be added, but many of the core players from the 2013 squad will remain the same.

Keeping that in mind, I posed one simple question to the players earlier this week as they cleaned out their lockers:

What did Kelly do in Year One that makes you believe he can lead this franchise to greater heights going forward?

Below are their responses.

Brandon Boykin: "I just think his approach to the game, his approach to the players. Just making it as comfortable of an environment as he possibly could for us. Listening to whatever we had to say. Anything that we felt like would be better he was always open to it. Just being a players’ coach. Everybody really responded to that positively. On gameday he made sure we were healthy. He made sure we were fresh. And we wanted to play for him."

DeSean Jackson: "I think he just installed a mentality in us in this era with everybody here. That toughness is here. And basically we’re gonna do what we need to do to win games. And just the mentality of going out there, working hard and translating that to the football field and the playing field on Sundays. I just think it’s more of a mentality and a persona that he put in to everybody around here."

DeMeco Ryans: "Coach Kelly, first and foremost, he knows what he wants, he knows how he wants it, and he’s a great motivator. Gets the guys going, gets the guys believing in what he wants them to do. And I feel like he’s a really, really great leader. That’s one thing I learned from Coach Kelly this year. He’s a great leader. And he’s a great football coach."

Bennie Logan: "Just the way he presented himself. He wasn’t really a talker. He was more just come in here and establish himself, gaining our trust and respect and going from there. The way he took care of us, the way he just bonded with us, it was more like a family environment here. It got a lot of guys to just buy in to what he was saying, what he was telling us and just went from there. And that’s the reason why we had success his first year."

Brent Celek: "I think from Day One, he’s a great leader. I think that going forward he’s gonna always put a great team together. I think that if things go bad for us, Chip’s the type of guy that’s gonna evolve and change and make it better."

Evan Mathis: "Everything that he did. As soon as he got here, he’s the kind of guy that lets you know what you’re doing, why you’re doing it. He always has a plan and he always has a reason for the plan. He’s not the type of guy that just tells you to do things. And you could see it from the beginning that he’s a very intelligent guy. He cares about his coaches. He cares about his players. And we all bought in Day One with this guy. I think that’s part of the reason we had some success this year."

Cary Williams: "He’s gotten people to believe in his system. He’s gotten people to understand that he’s a players’ coach. He’s a guy that understands the seriousness behind the little things. And those things can come into play each and every game of the season. We saw that we were progressively getting better. We stuck with the system. We believed in the system. It won us games. And I think he’s a great leader. To be honest with you, I don’t know if anybody’s expectations were necessarily this high. But we knew we had a great coach coming in. And we just wanted to go about the season as best as we possibly could - working hard, continuing to get better each and every week, leaning on our guy. And he got us into the playoffs and hopefully next year we can continue to do that."

Lane Johnson:: "Just starting out with the rough start, he just told us to stay with him. And we did. We have a lot of veteran leadership in here. Once we started seeing what our offense can do and some of the numbers and yards we put up, we could be the real deal. So as the season progressed, started winning a bunch of games, got the momentum going and good things happened offensively and defensively. ...Just a lot of confidence going into next year."

Nate Allen: "Just seeing how far we’ve come from last year. We’ve got a lot of new faces, but we’ve got a lot of the same guys from last year. Just the way things are run and the system and just how detailed everything is. He’s got a good system, and I enjoyed it this year. It was a lot of fun."

Zach Ertz: "He didn’t have to make me a believer to be honest. I was a believer before I even got here, saw him first-hand for four years up at Oregon. He’s such an amazing coach that he can lead all these men to one common goal. I think the sky’s the limit for us and him personally."

Earl Wolff: "I know he can [lead us to greater heights]. Just from how we started, we started off kind of slow because we were still learning. And just how he does everything. He explains everything he does. Everything he does is for a reason. And he’ll have some type of philosophy, some type of reasoning for everything he does. And just seeing how we progressed each and every game, seeing how our defense struggled at first and then to how we ended up getting better and better. We give thanks to him and also to the coaching staff."

Jason Avant: "I think he stressed turnovers and how big of a correlation it is with winning and losing. I think that was the biggest thing that he did this year was have the offense to protect the football. And a lot of times we didn’t lose the game based on our turnovers. So if you eliminate the self-imposed things, you’ll be alright. I think that was the biggest thing that caused us to buy in. Once we realized that OK, we’re not turning the ball over and we’re winning games, we saw it can be good in the end."

Mychal Kendricks: "He got us to the playoffs. The energy, the love for the game is there, and it’s easy to see. It’s easy to play for a guy like that."

Cedric Thornton: "He’s a good motivator, he’s a good coach. He definitely knows what he’s doing. And I just believe that he knows the guys that he’s got here and he just believes that we believe in him. And hopefully he’ll keep believing in us. ...Just letting us know that the only person that can stop us is ourselves on each individual day. As long as we come in here and hydrate right and work out right. On gameday, the only person that can stop us is us."

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  • bentheimmigrant

    So does that mean Kendricks only bought in 2 weeks ago?

    • Tom W

      yea not sure about that cat yet … too many signs of immaturity but guess that is part of being a kid.

  • morgan c

    Well, we know his players believe in him. That’s important. We just need some better players on defense in Year 2, and continued development on offense. Oh, and a new kicker. Then we are a real contender.

  • djack10

    Can’t wait for next year!

  • Richard Colton

    Nate Allen should prepare for even more new faces next year. Probably 52. And a new color scheme.

    • Will

      LMAO hopefully the new faces for Nate are on another team…God open there eyes they do not lie…………Nate is healthy cause he plays with a business decision attitude and for 600,000 k a year I do not blame him for it. He gets a new contract he will pull a disappearing act mark my words..Nate Allen is ranked like the #74 Safety in the NFL surely we can do a lot better….

    • Adam

      I wouldn’t be so sure. I would not be shocked at all he’s brought back to compete with Wolff opposite a FA we sign. We could do worse than him being the first guy off the bench.

      • Tom W

        I’d be fine w that.

      • bentheimmigrant

        I’m with you on this. I expect this offseason to be similar to the last – use FA to get to a point where there isn’t a position that you have to draft high (although I guess we didn’t quite manage that at RT). So I think we’ll see at least average level starters pencilled in at each position before the draft. Letting Allen walk (I am assuming here that we cut Chung, because, well… that doesn’t need to be explained) makes it pretty hard to be in that position.

      • Adam

        And now I realize that maybe you meant new people at his position for the Eagles. In which case, we agree.

      • Richard Colton

        Yeah. On a scale from 1 to caseymatthews, I’m not 100% opposed to bringing him back to compete. I think he’s still riding some rookie year success and hasn’t shown he can play consistently at this level. Ideally the conversation we’re having in July/August is: “Do we keep 4 or 5 Safetys, and if not, is Nate Allen the odd man out?”

        • Adam

          I’m just not sure it’s safe to pencil Wolff in as a starter next year. He’s a good player and definitely showed flashes, but he needs to show it consistently and we need to have something to fall back on that isn’t Chung, Coleman or Anderson. They’re the priority to replace IMO, and expecting 4 new faces at safety might be a bit too much.

          • Will

            Not really, that’s the one position I hope like hell they do everything in there power to finally improve….BDawk you are missed…

          • Adam

            Rarely do you see that much overhaul at one position. Not impossible but doesn’t happen often.

          • Will

            Just hoping the last 5 years has been unacceptable…This team needs a New Kicker, New Safties, New NT and an OLB, WR if Mac doesn’t heal up….just my thoughts how or what they do who knows till it happens…5-6 new play maker’s isn’t unreasonable is it?

          • anon

            New OG, new depth at all positions really.

          • Will

            True age is catching up at key positions and fans want to wait and see at Safety good point no time like the present…

          • Richard Colton

            very true. Wolff and safety-in-name-only Colt Anderson are back. That’s two. I’d be happy with Wolff starting if they sign someone decent to play next to him. 2 new players at the position isn’t a whole lot to ask – they did it this year.

          • Adam

            Colt is a UFA isn’t he? Did he do enough to warrant a new deal and that roster spot next season? I’m not so sure. I wouldn’t be opposed to upgrading his spot with a return specialist with Boykin playing so well as gunner.

          • Will

            Colt was outstanding in coverage on ST…

          • bentheimmigrant

            Well, except that last game, but I suppose we shouldn’t get too mad over a single play.

          • Will

            Yeah Colt admitted he tried something different…but for 16 games he played very well on ST…even if the last one was a killer but the Eagles beat themselves on a culmination of mistakes thru out the game…missed FG, missed tackles, not capitalizing on turnovers,Cooper drop, poor blocking, poor pass protection, QB mistakes, ect. the player’s for the most part were honest about what went wrong…

          • Richard Colton

            final game brain-cramp aside, I love what Colt gives you as a gunner and spot starter at Safety. IMO really valuable guy on the roster. If the $$$ is right, keep him.

          • bentheimmigrant

            Don’t forget the coaches put Coleman out there before Colt. Coleman’s not as bad as comments around here may suggest, but that certainly makes you wonder about Anderson.

          • anon

            You don’t think there could be a better ST / safety in FA? I guess that’s the benefit of the offseason and a 90 guy roster.

          • bentheimmigrant

            There might be a better safety, but he’s been consistently great on STs for as long as he’s been here.

          • Richard Colton

            based just on special teams performance? no. Safety play too? I hope so. We saw a few years ago, asking Colt to play more than one full game at S is too much.

          • Adam

            Agree to disagree on this one. That Pro-Bowl caliber year he was definitely worth the roster spot as a gunner alone. He’s a complete liability when he’s on the field as a safety. The way he played this year, he was good but nothing amazing and nothing I don’t think can be replicated by someone who isn’t a better safety/corner/return man.

            Basically to me, if you’re going to be carried on a roster as a specialist (which let’s face it, Colt is) you better be outstanding and I’m just not sure Colt is that guy anymore.

          • NickS1

            He’s not. The time (may have been twice) that we had to read that he tried to make a play, it cost us. If he’s going to get burnt making costly decisions, he enters liability territory.

          • Richard Colton

            So what should I do with my Colt Anderson jersey? Pray the Eagles sign Morton Anderson?!? Have to say, you guys are being pretty selfish today.

          • anon

            you’re the one that got a colt anderson jersey. Almost as bad as getting a j. poeyer jersey.

          • Richard Colton

            next you’ll be ripping my Blaine Bishop jersey

          • Joe from Easton

            L.J. Smith, anyone?

          • Maggie

            Whew! At least people still like my Westbrook jersey. Sometimes I even receive a compliment for being intelligent enough to have it!

          • NickS1

            My old roommate bought a Kevin Kolb jersey the season he was the starter. Then Vick took his job. Then he got traded.

          • Andy124

            Maybe we’ll sign RiShard Anderson CB out of Syracuse as a UDFA and he’ll develop in to a special teams ace for us and wear number 30.

          • NickS1

            They’re bound to sign another Anderson at some point in your liftetime. Save it, hope they don’t change the colors, and say it was an error jersey that came out as Colt’s. Have you had your Casey Matthews jersey signed by him yet?

          • Richard Colton

            just for that, here’s my mock draft by position:

            1) ILB Mosley
            2) ILB Shane Skov
            3) OLB Attachou

            I defy you to find a role for Matthews after that.

          • Andy124

            Special Teams ace, safety in name only.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m so angry right now

          • Andy124

            He’s already a linebacker in name only, so it’s not like it’s a big position change.

          • NickS1

            Special Teams Ace. YOU CAN’T TRUMP THE OREGON CONNECTION. Next!
            I bring up the Oregon Connection in most of my Chung comments. I hate him. I’d cut him from the roster 5x if I could. But you know what? He’s likely not going anywhere. The Oregon Connection may haunt us for a few years until his recruits/players are out of the league.

          • theycallmerob

            ….convert to Safety, to take Colt’s gunner spot? Ha! 2 birds, meet my 1 stone.

          • deg0ey

            Colt has been really mediocre on ST this season. He was awesome in 2011 and 2012 but this year not so much. We also got much better contribution from guys that actually back up a real position (Goode in particular).

            Ultimately, the drop off from Anderson to Coleman on ST is pretty minimal (Kurt had a great year on ST) and on D, Colt is a complete non-factor.

            The way to upgrade at S this year is to cut Chung, re-sign Allen and Coleman, bring in a mid-level FA (Husain Abdullah, Usama Young, Chris Clemons, Major Wright – someone like that) to compete with Allen and Wolff to start. Then draft a mid-round S (I like Tre Boston) as a project/backup/ST.

          • pjcostello

            Coleman is a U, too.

          • macadood

            yea boykin has been killing it all season downing punts, he seems to always be getting free and waiting for it to drop and down it before the goal line.

            I wanted to punch roc carmichael in the nuts so hard when he sloppily kicked that ball into the endzone, should have been 1st down at the 1 yd line >:O forgot to mention that when we were ragging on Roc in a different thread. i’m surprised boykin didnt bitchslap him

          • NickS1

            Roc Carmichael…. speaking of guys who need to be cut

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..when I say we don’t need CBs that’s not entirely true..we don’t need to spend high picks because Chip and Billy have their starters for the next two or three years…but we still need to take CB between rounds 4 and 7 because we have ZERO depth at the position…Cary had to leave the saints game for one stinking play and Roc cost us,,,smh..and let’s not even talk about the ST debacle

          • Maggie

            Don’t forget, the NFL outlawed open hand head slaps, at least on the helmet!

          • macadood

            or at least give him the ol’ smack with the chinstrap metal button to the back of the helmet to deafen him a bit.

            in all honesty patrick chung doesnt bother me, coleman and anderson don’t bother me, brad smith doesnt, nor does alex henery even bother me as far as players on the roster…but roc carmichael…never seen an ounce of any potential or talent from him. no idea how he’s lasted this long

          • bentheimmigrant

            My plan is either sign or trade for a starter, and draft a mid-round guy as #4. This is assuming we keep 5 again.

          • JofreyRice

            I’ve said it before, but S is one of the very few positions where players get better with age.

            I’ve really hated Allen at times, and still think he’s an average player, at best, but you’re right, bringing him back for depth is not the worst thing in the world. I just don’t want them to sign him as the starter.

          • bentheimmigrant

            Better with age…

            So should we take Taylor Mays for a spin?

          • pjcostello

            NO NO NO NO NO!!!! Ihedigbo. Mays?? Kelly probably remembers him fondly, though. :-)

          • bentheimmigrant

            Isn’t Ihedigbo already 30? I’d rather not get significantly older at the position.

          • pjcostello

            Yes — he’ll be 30 at the start of next season. Someone on here said that safeties seem to get better with age, and I wouldn’t mind a 3-4 year contract with him.

          • Will

            30 not too old…if they trained hard and are healthy you want Vets for 2-3 years so you can groom the draft picks from guys who are proven…Chung,Allen,Coleman all they learn from them is what not to do….

          • Andy124

            Better with age…
            Bring back #20!!!

          • cliff henny

            nate just doesnt stick his nose into the line, is slow, unless its a pop fly very little ball skills, just not alot there to work with. just cant see him getting better. when the DC goal is to make you just not so obviously suck, time to move on. keelan j-something, no clue who this kid is, but does anyone think 6 months in camp, he’d be any worse than allen/chung?

          • JofreyRice

            Hard to imagine anyone worse than Chung. Please no more FA signings like him or Sopoaga.

          • cliff henny

            not sure why we were so suprised he sucked, belicheck benched him for a wr turned safety in mid season. howie doesnt have to go 100%, but chunger seemed pretty obvious.

          • Maggie

            Don’t forget that the pickings were pretty slim and the position had to be filled with SOMEONE last spring.

          • GEAGLE

            The problem was Pollard wasn’t released til the day after we had already signed Chung…no one can convince me we wouldn’t have rather signed pollard to the one year prove you aren’t a complete physcho deal that the titans got him on, instead of giving Chung a molti year deal…
            ..
            I shoulda been watching half the starting secondary for the defending Super Bowl champions this year in midnight green with Cary n Pollard….instead I got CHUNGED which officially replaces the term “we got Nnamdi’ed or we got Colemaned…imagine how I must feel .grrrrrrr

          • Will

            Yup….a lot of good ones might hit FA or a Few. I for one say go get 2-3 Vets to groom the young guys from the draft….keep Wolff if the knee checks out….the rest put on a slow boat to china….

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t you think someone will offer him starter money? Also I don’t know how we would feel about a backup safety who doesn’t play ST….but Nate did a lot of good this year. I wouldn’t cut him if he was under contract, but I don’t know that I’d sign him….

            The safety situation is more pressing then people even think. Think about it. Berry and Earl won’t hit the open market until they start to decline. Weddle,Goldson and Quinn were signed last year. After Byrd,Ward,Whitner and Clemons are signed…all the top young safeties who are under 30 will be locked into Longterm deals…and because we overachieved and are contenders, we can’t start a rookie next to young Wolff….This is the last chance to get a sure shot established stud safety….

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t know. I guess we’ll see what the rest of NFL really thinks of Nasty Nate. Based on what they’ve said, it certainly doesn’t seem like they have prioritized re-signing him.

            I’m all for signing a young, proven S, regardless of cost. Byrd is my first choice, because of his ability to play center field. Whitner has come a long way, and now finally looks like the guy everyone was pretending he was a few years back. Ward is the monster hitter and run-support guy everyone wanted Chung to be.Clemons is a competent defender, if less flashy than the others. I’d be thrilled to have any of that group.

          • GEAGLE

            Agreed on all counts..,especially since Weddle,Quinn!Goldson are recently signed, Berry/Earl will never hit the market..after this safety market it’s gonna be slim picking for a few years..
            ..
            I also like when their are multiple options at a position as opposed to OLB where Orakpo sit as a king with no competition…that dude is gonna be screaming “I’m Rich Bitch” to the world real soon

          • Maggie

            We’ve heard a fair bit about the number of guys on D who are pretty good at run defense, so maybe the centerfielder would be a better choice.

          • jon h

            wolfe and allen should be the two backup safeties next year. If that happens, our secondary will be vastly improved. We need a physical guy back there who can take down a RB with a full head of steam in one shot.

          • Will

            who also is a ball hawk…

          • Will

            Bernard Pollard sounds good …age 29…Byrd but the price tag may scare us away have to wait till march 11th to see who’s in FA……Dix in the draft if he falls to #22….

          • pjcostello

            Like him, but I think he’s too undisciplined for Kelly.

        • cliff henny

          big issue with bringing nate back as 3rd safety is he doesnt play special teams. guess he could learn, but why have guy learn on the fly, not to mention, eagles arent the only team complaining about SS/FS, he’ll get at least low end starters money somewhere.

          • Andy124

            I really want the McNabb pick to pay off. I think we should resign him, then trade him for Earl Thomas.

          • cliff henny

            graham for chancellor, too.

          • Richard Colton

            we were doing so well not bringing up Earl Thomas

          • Andy124

            At least no one’s brought up Vick today. Oops.

    • BleedGreenJames

      I’m hoping Chung sees 52 new faces next year, ya dig?

      • Kevin

        And I hope those faces are Giants, Skins or Cowboys… he could really inflict some hits on those guys.

        • Will

          LMAO this is great…

        • BleedGreenJames

          I second the Skins, Chung-Meriweather collisions could be game changing, for the Birds.

      • GEAGLE

        I don’t know what to think of Chung..actually I know what I think of him, he sucks and I never want to see him play defense for us ever again. What I mean is I don’t know how to interpret his future here(this summer)..Is he gone, or will he stay one more year? No clue…
        Keep in mind that Colt,Nate and Coleman are no longer under contract and could all walk. that’s potentially 3 safeties we have to replace,,,I’m not so sure we feel like having to worry about 4 safeties this offseason, especially since we just signed the guy last year…also, he had shoulder problems and as fans we really don’t know if he really is that Incompetant or if he was being a warrior playing thru an injury that lingered…I assume he sucks but the situation combined with just signing him a year ago,the Oregon connection and being a good Charecter guy, I can’t say I would be that surprised to see him back for one more year

        • Will

          Now you know why New England parted ways with Chung….I for one say let them all walk and bring in 4-5 new bodies can’t be any worse………..March 11th can’t get here fast enough to see who hits FA….Byrd-27 yrs old/Ward-27 yrs old/Pollard-29 yrs old/Ihedgio-30 yrs old/Whitner-28 yrs old might all be looking for work ….plus one from the draft (Dix, Joyner)…we have invested in the D-Line,LB’s,CB’s now is high time for the Safety spots……..

    • Will

      LMAO…very well put….Dick!

      • Richard Colton

        my man

    • NickS1

      In fairness, it’ll be 90 to start.

    • Sven

      I wouldn’t drive Nate Allen out of town yet. He had ‘his best’ year yet, he can be a serviceable backup.
      Patrick Chung and Alex Henery, I would buy their plane ticket and drop em off at the airport myself.

      • anon

        I really liked chung in the beginning but yeah…Roseman did a good job with FAs generally but at safety.

        • cliff henny

          got spoiled by dawkins. man, i miss that guess.

      • GEAGLE

        NAte Allen is no longer under contract…I’m sure we aren’t the only ones Who noticed Nate improve. If you want Nate! you will have to pay him and if we pay him in a year where the safety market will be as great as you can ever find, why wouldn’t we want to pay some more to upgrade a crucial position that’s been killing us for years?

        • Andy124

          I heard our DC has a very high opinion of Ward. :)

      • Will

        LMFAO…great one…lol…

    • Maggie

      Good one.

  • Will

    Wow high praise from the player’s. Not a surprise there, how far they went this season was a good surprises. Can’t wait for year #2 under Chip Kelly’s leadership…

    • Maggie

      We sometimes forget these are professional athletes, who work for money AND recognition. And even with the injury rate, some still love playing just to play.

  • Tom W

    Stick to the plan. Win the day. Howie and Chip will get us there. Need the city to stop taking such a short term view of the team and realize Chip is running this more like a big time college program … He is the leader … He is the face of the franchise if any like Belichek in New England … Its not about me me me players … Its about team and winning and that is it. How did he measure himself .. on wins. Like parcels said, you are only as good as your record says. We don’t talk about how good we are anymore or how good we should be … we shut up, put the work in, day by day, week by week, and we pick our heads up at the end of the season.

    This coach is smart as hell and like Celek said willing to adapt and evolve and not get stuck reading the papers how great he is.

    We hit on a once in a decade if not generation coach. The revamping of the roster will continue. Our baby players will improve and make the second year leap and get better the second year in a new offense and defense.

    Patience is the key. We are at least two years ahead of where I thought we would be. Stick to the plan. Parades will come.

    • Adam

      Lurie and Howie said it when was hired: He’s not just a coach, he’s a program builder.

      • Tom W

        Another reason I love them both for bringing him here. No brainer.

    • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

      Eagles fans, including Dick, are allowed to be impatient.

      • Richard Colton

        thank you wine glass. I can always count on you.

        • GEAGLE

          Just cyber smack him with the “hi hater”

          • Richard Colton

            are you kidding? I love this guy. makes me feel like I’ve made it in the 24/7 community. I mean, not Dutch famous, but close.

          • NickS1

            I bet Dutch comes back to read the comments and gets all warm and fuzzy inside when he sees how much he’s still talked about.

          • GEAGLE

            Sorry but my gimp doesn’t get internet connection from my basement…but I’ll tell him everyone says hi

          • Andy124

            I know I would. Bet I don’t get half the attention that dude gets when I disappear. I don’t even have my own personal troll. I feel like such a failure.

          • Richard Colton

            its because you haven’t done a song in a while.

          • Andy124

            I can’t force those things. The opportunity has to present itself.

            I may have to have a little fun writing a farewell song. Maybe use “My Letter” by Flaw or something from Breaking Bejamin.

          • Maggie

            “Backstabbers” in keeping with the brotherly love thing.

          • Andy124

            O’Jays and Philadelphia soul connection? Breaking Benjamin is from Scranton. Close enough for me. :)

            Their first 2 cd’s are mind blowingly awesome to me.

          • Maggie

            In regard to first Chip Kelly year, how about Teddy’s “The More I Get, the More I Want”? Of course, he wasn’t talking about football P-}

          • GEAGLE

            No offense Colt, but your troll is weak! Like everyone doesn’t know it’s #7..you need to step your troll game up buddy, but I guess #7 is a start :)

          • rob’s jockstrap

            you’re not the only one!

      • Tom W

        Be inpatient all you want just makes you look dopey and irrational. I will be on this planet for a long time and in this city for decades … I just want one parade and we have the right coach and gm for that …. rather relax and enjoy it happening the right and most sensible way that get my panties in a bunch bitching and crying every offseason to sign the “best” overpriced, older free agents because the strategy has proven over and over and over and over again to fail. Shortcitedness destroyed the Andy Reid regime …. if we can’t learn from the past, we are bound to repeat ourselves in the future. Thanks God our front office is playing the long game … much like Hinkie and the sixers … like Hinkie says … may be 1000 people trying to think about winning next year … but if you are thinking about 3,4 or 5 yrs down the line … you may be the only guy and thats when winners are made.

        • Richard Colton

          He’s not a “guy,” he’s my wine glass. I’m up-voting the George Santayana reference.

          • Andy124

            You seem to have filled your wine glass to the brim with hateraide. I’d suggest a nice cabernet next time.

          • cliff henny

            i upvote every post of RC’s wine glass…i’ll always support unprovoked personal attacks on the internet. mean, besides xrated sites and killing the work day, what else is it for?

        • Will

          Well me personally after 42 years …am fed up waiting…how long have you been a fan? I enjoyed the Detroit game and stayed till the end…but then again a lot of people left…believe me I understand your point of view but one or two FA isn’t a bad thing…we got Connor Barwin….the punter…last year…and we will sign a few for next year…. Big deal you got your panties in a bunch all by yourself….lol…

          • GEAGLE

            If we have any problems or trouble with Donnie! I’d slap him with the franchise tag so quick he wouldn’t even get to think about going to another team. If someone deserves to be paid the average salary of the top 10 players at his position it’s Donnie Longball…plus franchise tag for punters isn’t very expensive

        • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

          Yeah, I get it. You’re young and haven’t had your heart broken enough. Give it time. And what about all those Andy years where he built the team ground up? Eagles were a powerhouse for a few years, but alas, no title to show for it.

          • cliff henny

            outside of ’80 superbowl year and ’91 randalls knee wasnt alot of heartbreaks from ’78 to reid yrs. so, regardless of age, anyone over 25 is pretty equal. now, those oldertimers remembering 50′-60′s, they seen some garbage. can tell you, nothing NOTHING compares to seeing randall’s knee. was 21 and in tears

          • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

            That’s fair. In relative terms, there was a whole lot of mediocrity (Ryan, Kotite, Rhodes) and then a dense period of pure heartbreak (Reid).

          • cliff henny

            oh, dont forget the marion campbell years. whoa man, that was some bad football.

    • Will

      Patience and you’ll need a new O-Line….3 of them are the wrong side of 30…

      • Richard Colton

        All five of them played 16 games last year. Anyone willing to bet that’s going to happen for another two years? Some estate planing is in order here; I don’t want to risk a Super Bowl just because the just-in-case plan was Bamiro or Kelly.

        • Will

          I hear ya Incognito plays G and I doubt there’s a lot of people who will give him a shot…but yeah the O-Line gonna need revamping soon…with Barbe the only bright spot in the wings…

          • Richard Colton

            like Barbre, don’t like Incognito or Martin – wouldn’t touch either of them. If OG Martin from Notre Dame or Cyril Richardson from Baylor fell to round 2, I’d pull the trigger.

          • Will

            I really only care how a player performs on the field, if we get him cheap Incognito is a beast….the draft they want high character…but we took a chance with Vick….when player’s stand to lose NFL income most change quickly…most…but I understand why you would steer clear of him as well…a proven OG is a proven commodity and Herremans ain’t getting any younger…

          • Richard Colton

            I don’t like them for different reasons – Martin is (i think) the cancer. Incognito has a lot of miles – he’s over 30 too.

          • Will

            Gotcha…didn’t realize he was that old…is 30 but point well taken…I was thinking they go FA for Safeties and draft the rest next year…but the O-Line needs reinforcements. I do not foresee them all staying healthy for 32-40 games…certainly do not want them to wait till someone goes down and go find someone like the Bell fiasco…

          • NickS1

            Who knows, Bell might have been decent with coaching, too.

          • GEAGLE

            I was told not to expect many Charecter concern guys under Chip

          • GEAGLE

            Cyril def fills my chubby chaser fetish

          • Maggie

            As we still don’t know exactly what drove Martin to go public with his problems, don’t know what to think about him. If he just needs “toughening up”, it seems to me that a couple of the Eagles might take him under their wing. Some guys work better with the right kind of praise mixed with the right kind of criticism, a la Chip, rather than threats to kill his family. I haven’t heard any of the thousand voices say he couldn’t play. And Incognito has been an azzwhole for years. An early Suh.

          • GEAGLE

            Today I learned some stuff from someone who has never steered me wrong(no names sorry):

            1) Chip really doesn’t want to be bothered with the questionable Charecter players so we shouldnt expect to take fliers on the D’arick Rodgers of the world…don’t know how he feels about former players like Lyeria or Lagarret Blount..so I wouldn’t expect incognito types
            …..
            2) I found out WR coach Biknell Really really really likes Riley Cooper
            …..
            3) I heard Maclins future was more in question then we think even before the injury. he has missed games with injury, lacked toughness at times, drop some balls….I hear his future with us really was depending on what kind of year he had…what that means going forward since he got injured, I have no idea

            I was also told Billy Davis thinks really highly of TJ Ward. Tried to find out what Chip thought of Byrd, but he had no idea

            Oh and that we are really really high on Ertz

          • Andy124

            Do you inject, ingest, inhale or snort Ertz?

          • GEAGLE

            Parachute Ertz…you can always take Ertz as a suppository

          • cliff henny

            talking about Johnny Geagle, pretty sure he takes it orally from eagle players

          • cliff henny

            can see how self-tacklin would not be a kelly guy. jax is only because that one trick, is a really freaking good trick. say what you want, few take the top off a secondary like jax..
            .
            vick gave ertz high praise too.
            .
            f’n banner is going to franchise tag ward out of spite.

          • GEAGLE

            Direct quote I got was: “if Ward isn’t blocked, he makes every tackle”

          • cliff henny

            Ward/wolff it is. i’m in the anyone but chung/allen combo. and coleman, dear gawd, not coleman.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah but we don’t know about what Chip thinks of Byrd. I also think Ward is more likely to get Franchised then Jarius…

            It really depends on what we want..,do we want the safety who is solid in I coverage but is like a mini tackling Machine linebacker in Ward, or do we want the playmaking centerfielder in coverage who is a solid and sound tackler?

          • Will

            We are greedy we want both of them….man would the secondary be stout with those two and an added OLB and NT…wow one can dream….

          • GEAGLE

            In terms of improving in coverage…the best somewhat realistic defense we could field would be:
            ..
            Barwin, Kendrick,Meco,Van Noy( combo of Vrabel/Barwin)
            ..
            Cary, Lamarcus Joyner, Byrd, Wolff, Boykin, Fletcher, and a 5th round corner…
            ….
            But if we were to go the Van Noy route, which woud be a great pick, but it wouldn’t solve our beast pass rusher problem…but if they can hypothetically trade for or sign a guy Like Terrell Suggs…it would allow us to draft Van Noy or a WR…Van Noy would be our 4th OLB, but still get pass rush looks because playing him and Barwin together, teams really have no idea who Is dropping into coverage and who is rushing the QB…In a few years when Meco leaves, he slides into Meco’s ILB spot, and we wouldn’t lose any size, physicality while getting an upgrade in coverage, if he develops correctly..

          • Will

            Really interested how the New Eagle Brain Trust tackles the personnel issues there’s definitely gonna be more new faces excited as hell this team is only gonna get better…

          • GEAGLE

            Your telling me..I got goosebumps the other day hearing chips tone when he was asked about this offseason compared to last years and how he says he will have a lot more time for personel and how he now has such a better idea what we have and what we need then he did last year..so if we were able to improve so much last season, I’m going crazy imaginig what Chip will do…Chip is smart! and a guy who learns from mistakes so I expect him to grow a lot from one year to the next in every aspect of NFL life for the first 3 season…..so excited to see what this roster looks like in june

          • cliff henny

            honest question, which is harder to find out of college? i personally would want ball-hawks that can tackle. let the corner be physical at the line and any ball that flutters just a tick, want either safety chasing it down. play the ball, not the recr. days of dawkins are gone.

          • Maggie

            Uuuh… doesn’t everybody?

        • cliff henny

          know i’m higher on d kelly than most, thought he played about as well as one could ask in an impossible situation. guess the only bright side about the back is it got a full year’s rest. wasnt rehabbing and playing, yo-yo’ing it’s health. least we’ll know, if it’s a problem june1st, time to part ways. guards, i dont get the worry. guys like mathis seem to happen all the time where they flounder for years and hit a system and pop. just never happened in philly, it’s usually other way around. barbre and tobin have no tred on tires, stoutland will have near 18 months to get these guys up to speed (yeah, sucks, but someone is getting hurt next year) . kelce is young. peters is a freak of nature. doubt he’d ever do it, but imagine him at guard to extend his career couple of years. man is a beast, think he’d be awesome.

          • Richard Colton

            I asked Sheil on Twitter a few years ago – hypothetical gun to your head, can Dennis Kelly play? He told me I had to holster the gun, and that yeah, he can play. The injury set him back. but Im encouraged.

          • cliff henny

            think we’re just used to reid, guys showed up day 1, could either play or not play. look how many guys this year looked like completely different players than the last 2, on the eagles and other teams.king dunlap is the guy that has me both pissed and encouraged. he went from how is this guy getting nfl check to a really good player.

          • Richard Colton

            I feel the same way about Dunlap. We wet-nurse him for years, he finally gets his shot, flames out spectacularly, and now he’s a future all pro with another team.

          • cliff henny

            seriously, in 1 yr, WTF?!?!

          • GEAGLE

            This ain’t baseball lol…coaching matters :)

          • Will

            From the few games of him I saw he’s like a stone wall…like what gives?

          • GEAGLE

            Dysfunctional environment to a well coached playoff team. Change of scenery sometimes can do the trick

          • Richard Colton

            !

          • JofreyRice

            So hard to tell with a rookie in that situation. Looked absolutely awful at times, but was in an awful spot–being shifted from G to T, playing on a crap team, . I wonder if the current Coaches have seen enough to have a solid opinion? Didn’t the back injury kind of strike early this year?

            He played a lot in 2012, so hopefully they know enough to decide what kind of player he might be in the future.

          • Andy124

            I think Peters eventually will play his last couple years at guard. I think he’d be sane Shawn Andrews at guard. LJ moves to LT. Barbre, Bamiro, Kelly or new edition plays RT. I like it.

          • GEAGLE

            I watched Kelly a lot last year (not much to watch when the birds were playing)…and I thought he handled himself well given the circumstances…He showed NFL potential I thought. Who knows how Bamiro and Kelly are developing..have they improved like so many of the returning eagles! or are they struggling in a new and different offense?

            FA and the draft should tell us a lot about what we think of the young OT depth…still gutted about not getting Undrafted OT Todd Marquardt from Acuza Pacific lol…of course he signed with the stacked Niners…also stil pissed that Oakland got safety Dexter McCoil, but whatever

          • Andy124

            I thought Kelly was decent for a rookie as well. I was actually pretty excited after a couple weeks of him at tackle. The one thing that I didn’t like was that he didn’t seem to get better week to week like I was hoping. Maybe I was spoiled by the progress Foles was making. Certainly not anything to write him off over, just dampened my optimism a tad.

          • Will

            kelly filled in nicely I thought…

          • Andy124

            I don’t disagree with that at all.

      • Tom W

        Troll. That’s why you keep drafting bpa and developing players at every position instead of trying to buy a championship. If you scared about the age of the olinemen then get a dog. Chip isn’t. We have know idea what we have in Bamiro and Kelly at tackle and guards are one of the easier positions to replace and coach up w midround guy.

        Mathis is a physical freak who could play till he is 35. Peters is only under contract for another year then we either do a two year deal, franchise him or move lane over like it was planned. herramins is replaceable/upgradeable now and guard is not a difficult position to develop a starter w a mid round pick. Kelce will get resigned.

        Every team has older players, that doesn’t constitute scrapping your team philosophy and become the 2007 Redskins.

        If you can’t see the forest between all the trees, then I pity you.

        • Will

          Thanks GM for your honest thoughts who knew…lol…I said draft O-Linemen…I only advocate FA Safeties just my opinion which is just as valid as yours….but continue to attack me…just discussing what I’m most passionate about…I will enjoy the moves in FA and the draft what ever they are. There is little doubt the organisation is moving in the right direction of late. Thanks for your perspective it helps me to see things from another point of view…Just suggested Incognito because we could get him for cheap which seems to be an Eagles Philosophy. I did not realize he was 30…fooled me because of his immaturity….have you always had trouble playing well with other’s touchy Tom?

        • GEAGLE

          Don’t see what Will has ever done to be considered a troll..

  • JofreyRice

    Only 3 “each and every”s. Boooooooo.

    • bentheimmigrant

      But only 1/4 of the team. So if he’s interviewed all of them…

      • Maggie

        Columns for another week.

    • Richard Colton

      at the end of the day, it is what it is. Honestly? Just keep working hard and chopping wood. Have to do a better job, put my players in a position to make plays.

      • pjcostello

        Didn’t we leave everything on the field, as well? :-)

        • Richard Colton

          That’s a Rich Kotite special – you’ve been around a long time my friend.

          • pjcostello

            OMG you’re right!! The cliches all run together in my mind…

  • Scott J

    I didn’t know anything about Kelly because I don’t follow college football, but he’s made a believer out of me. Theres a lot of potential and optimism with this team now.

  • Will

    Great Question Sheil and great responses thanks for all you do on this site…please keep us posted on the Tom Gamble situation…Thanks…

  • jon h

    Sheil, Love how you asked the player their opinion rather than using their statements as an opportunity to reinforce your own point of view. It’s what separates you from your contemporaries at other outlets.

    • theycallmerob

      glad I checked to see if someone already posted what I was thinking.

      Great article, Sheil.

    • macadood

      I love how Tim and Sheil just get to hang and talk with the players all the time, ask them just about anything, and the players respond well. nice insider’s perspective.

      • NickS1

        He’s gotta ask Kendricks if he’s got plans with Rihanna yet.

  • DenverEagle

    There is nothing I like hearing more from players than “You always know you are doing things for a reason.” The essence of good, thoughtful coaching.

    • Andy124

      Yeah. “Because I said so” is good (and often necessary) for 5-year-olds. Not so much for millionaires.

      • bentheimmigrant

        Doesn’t even work that well with kids!

        • Andy124

          Works for mine, but I think that’s because she knows that’s the last answer she gets before she gets in trouble.

  • GEAGLE

    For me the most telling was Celek…if things go bad for us Chip is the type of guy who will evolve and change and make it better…..dig at Andy?
    ….
    When 53 men really really believe in their leader, it makes all the difference in the world. These comments are why our future is so bright

    Nice work kapadia

    • cliff henny

      boy, if it was, players are drinking kelly kool-aid faster than we fans were. celek was a pretty huge reid guy. then again, we all thought kelce was too, and came out pretty quickly he wanted little to do with reid.

      • GEAGLE

        Reid was a very successful father figure players coach who groomed and brought in most of our guys,,,for them all to be so blown away by Chip so soon, I think that means something!!

      • bentheimmigrant

        I think most of the players loved Reid, but someone like Kelce who clearly understands the game on a pretty deep level must have been sitting there thinking, “I could do a better job than this.” even if he was fond of him as a person.

        • cliff henny

          there was article about how kelce would sneak past reid’s door, purposely trying not to have any contact with reid. reid wasnt nearly as chummy chummy as we thought. sounds like reid had his pet players, and rest he kept in-line thru intimidation.

          • bentheimmigrant

            Hmm, I missed that.

          • cliff henny

            was pretty surprising. my guess was he started off as pretty hands on players coach. then as time went on, got into player control and had guys like dawkins patrolling locker room, he got more and more distant with players.

          • GEAGLE

            He was like 40yrs old when he got here and 55 when he left….people change a lot in 14years

          • cliff henny

            true. not bashing him, think us fans thought he was like he was with d-jax on sidelines alot. way kelce made it sound, ended up alot like belicheck. beside brady, think anyone is knocking on BB’s door?

          • GEAGLE

            What’s crazy is we all wanted Andy gone years ago, but if we fire him one year too soon, we don’t get Chip Kelly. Heard Lurie loved Jeff Fisher

          • cliff henny

            nawh, i cracked on reid after 2nd game in ’12 or if 2nd game was the cleveland game. might have been 2-0, but could see the same bs.

          • Maggie

            Let’s not forget the bag full of pharmaceuticals in the training room the last year.

    • Explorer51

      When Andy first started, and stumbled on timeouts and pass, pass, pass, I thought “well, he’s young and inexperienced, was never a head coach, not even a coordinator…he’ll learn and figure it out.” When he was still making the same mistakes (or lapses in judgement, pick your phrase) five years later I started thinking “WTF?” But what ended up killing my AR tolerance was his arrogance and stubbornness; his stance on acquiring talented WRs (un-favorite quote: “I’m happy with what we have” referring to Pinkston and Thrash) or his clear disdain for the importance of LBs in the defensive scheme (Google Jeremiah Trotter’s release and subsequent signing with Washington) were the final straws.

      This first year of Chip Kelly was so totally refreshing; he knows what he doesn’t know, which is just as important as what he does know. I can’t wait to watch him evolve and make us annually successful.

  • GEAGLE

    If Chip is given 14years is it even possible to not have a Lombardi?

    • cliff henny

      i wont know, if we got 5 nfc champs games and couple superbowl appearances over next 7 or 8 yrs to come away with nothing, my heart will give out. 14 carrot dangling years will do me right in. start watching international house hunters with my sister on sundays instead

      • GEAGLE

        I can’t even imagine…let’s change the subject :)

      • NickS1

        Some of the episodes have ridiculous pads.

      • Maggie

        Only watched that show twice, but question remains. No one ever mentions what the happy, happy people plan to do for a living? You can’t just walk into another country without a visa, job, work permit, etc. And many countries won’t let anybody just walk in and take a job away from a citizen.

  • EaglePete

    more comments on these post season articles than any in the week leading to playoffs, that seems strange to me.

    • Maggie

      It was hard to type with our fingers crossed.

    • cliff henny

      anticipation of withdrawal. next monday it’ll be ghosttown

  • anon

    Dolphins going for Billy Lazor, they clearly like what’s going on in here.

    • Maggie

      Along with Tom Gamble?

      • anon

        They need better players and QB performance. Saw what foles did, i’m surprised any team w/ a struggling QB wouldn’t want someone form our staff.

  • Andy124

    Sarge just got fired from the Phillies broadcast team! YES!!!

    • Mikeq

      I liked Sarge, at least compared to the other 2 nitwits who were on TV. The fact that Chris “middle-in” Wheeler is still with the team is the much bigger travesty.

      • theycallmerob

        ironically, just got off the phone with my dad and saw you two post. He heard that they’re both being shown the door; CSN wants their own team.

        • Mikeq

          Wheeler is gone??? Someone at CSN knows what they’re doing. Never understood what Phillie brass saw in him, except that he was a long-time employee, which seems to be their one and only personnel criteria.

          • Andy124

            yeah, Wheels is gone too. Didn’t mention Wheels cause I didn’t think anyone would care. Sarge’s voice and rambling just annoyed the crap out of me. He was basically baseball’s John Madden. Ugh.

          • Mikeq

            Oh man- this comes as a shock to me. Have to demonstrate my versatility by wasting time on a baseball blog rather than a football blog, and head over to Beerleaguer…

          • cliff henny

            who’s the play by play guy, he was awful. no one will ever replace harry the k and whitey.

          • Marilyn Monbroe

            Only difference is Madden knew what he was talking about

  • Explorer51

    Wow. Just wow. For those of us who are, or have been, managers, wouldn’t you like your employees to think like this?

  • Rob Fink

    What an incredible article. Another reason 24/7 is the best out there. This is the stuff that I want to read. Thanks for this one Sheil! And again for the email from before, can’t wait to go through the offseason with you and Tim.