Eagles Wake-Up Call: With Andy, Locals Know Best

Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy ReidThe national media has been singing Andy Reid‘s praises so loudly in recent weeks, you can’t help but think they are overcompensating for what they feel is a lack of appreciation for the head coach here in Philadelphia.

The Eagles fan base has been told over and over to be careful what they wish for, because they will never find a coach as good as Reid again. A  couple quotes that caught my attention:

…with a record of 130-92-1, Reid goes down as a Philadelphia sports legend, as unappreciated as he was underrated.

— Adam Schefter

“There are going to be some excellent candidates for the Philadelphia Eagles job that have all the right credentials…the guy you get — and he may very well be exactly what the Eagles need — I’m telling you that with all that success, I’m telling you that at the end of the day, however you want to measure it, he’s not going to be play-for-play, game plan for game plan, evaluation for evaluation, a better coach over a 14-year period of time than Andy Reid. He may have two or three or four Super Bowls and if that’s the outcome he should be admired for it, but I’m telling you that as someone who measures that on a daily basis that [he won’t be better than Reid.]

— Brian Billick with Mike Missanelli

All due respect to Schefter, whether Reid becomes a Philadelphia sports legend is up to Philadelphia. As for Billick’s comments: if any coach wins between two and four Super Bowls over a 14-year span, he will be in a different stratosphere than Reid. Arguing the other way defies logic.

In an attempt to provide the necessary corrections to what they see as an overly harsh fan base, some national pundits miss one crucial point: they are defending an Andy Reid that doesn’t currently exist. It may be true that it would be difficult to upgrade from the 2003 Reid, say. But the 2012 Reid is not nearly as irreplaceable.

As Sal Paolantonio noted on This Week in Pro Football, Reid’s record over the last four seasons (33-30) falls short of Rich Kotite‘s mark in his four seasons with the Eagles (36-28). There has not been a playoff win since 2008.

Where he once had few on his level, a look across the league reveals coaches like Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, the Harbaugh brothers, Mike Tomlin and John Fox who have pulled even or ahead of Reid.

Reid will be admired for his accomplishments in Philadelphia. His run is as good as there has been in modern Eagles history.

But the dominance has faded in recent years, and the situation is aching for change. The fans, the organization and likely even the coach recognizes this. Philadelphia knows what they had in Reid. And they know that what they had is gone.


Greg Cosell says that he is “not blown away by anything” when it comes to Nick Foles.

Sheil takes a look at what the national media are saying about the Eagles.

As the team made their way up north, it was business as usual.


Mike Florio is reporting that Reid has his sights set on San Diego.

The Los Angeles native wants to coach the Chargers, according to a league source.  Per the source, Reid is making his intentions known as he lines up a potential coaching staff — part of the “multi-level musical chairs” tournament unfolding throughout the league.

Reid arrived in Philly 14 years ago, vaulting from quarterbacks coach of the Packers to head coach and V.P. of football operations for the Eagles.  In San Diego, Reid may not have the same degree of power he enjoyed with the Eagles, if as reported by Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego the plan is to elevate Jimmy Raye and give more duties to John Spanos.

Tommy Lawlor provides a thorough look at Chip Kelly:

When Jon Gruden was fired, Kelly is one of the first people he sought out. Gruden wanted to learn Oregon’s offense. Think about that for a second. Gruden, arguably the most knowledgeable West Coast Offense guru on the planet Earth, chose Kelly above all the other brilliant coaches out there. That was the one guy he wanted to learn from. That speaks volumes.

What was Kelly’s response? Sure, I’ll teach you. Kelly went one beyond that and offered to hire Gruden as his offensive coordinator. Kelly thought they could spend a year together and learn from each other. Gruden thought about the offer, as crazy as that sounds, but his wife made it clear that wasn’t going to happen.

Bill Belichick brought Kelly in to Foxboro so the Patriots staff could pick his brain. Pete Carroll met with him so he could learn about the Oregon offense. Coaches with national titles and Super Bowls are seeking out Kelly to see just what he does and how it works. They want to learn from him.

Ron Burke mentions Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael as a name that could get Jeffrey Lurie’s attention.

Carmichael has been the Saints’ OC since 2009. Prior to that, he was the team’s quarterbacks coach, arriving in New Orleans with his pupil Drew Brees in 2006. Carmichael was Brees’ quarterbacks coach in San Diego. Before that he had NFL stints in Cleveland and Washington.
Collectively, Carmichael, Brees and head coach Sean Payton have engineered one of the NFL’s most consistent scoring juggernauts.


Regular-season finale  and almost certainly Reid’s final game as Eagles coach. Sheil and I will have it covered from MetLife Stadium.

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  • borntosuffer

    Like McNabb before him, many appreciate the accomplishments of Reid. He certainly put his name at the very top of the rather low bar set by previous Eagle’s coaches. But, his recent performance says it’s time to move on. His failure to find a reasonable replacement for McNabb, his poor 2010 and 2011 drafts, his questionable move of Castillo to DC and a bit of bad luck in terms of injuries all contributed. It’s hard to objectively argue that he earned another contract based on his performance the past 4 years.

  • solar panels not super bowls

    all the butt kissing of the media and former coaches is enough to make anyone puke. Andy is nice to national media and the coaching fraternity so they kiss his butt. No mention of his 80% pass to run ratios, can’t manage timeouts, selection of Castillo, etc, etc. Brian Billick is a stone cold moron and is not a coach anymore for a reason..

  • How many of these “experts” have been following (really following) the Eagles the last 14 years? It’s so easy to look at Reid’s overall record and say the Eagles are crazy for getting rid of him…it doesn’t tell the whole story. You wanna break down into two halves and Reid’s first 7 years were very good…the last 7, just ugly. It’s several years past due for a change.

    • I don’t live in Philly. You would be surprised just how large a hit the Eagles are nationally. There’s no doubt Reid will be ok a day after his firing if that’s what’s in the cards. The greater concern is will the Eagles return to a level of respectability anytime soon. There has always been talent in Philly, but there has not always been a cohesive use of that talent before Vermile and then under Reid.

  • Dawkins20Fan

    Which “Philadelphia” are we talking about…the fans or the writers? The local writers always hated Reid even when he was winning (perhaps because they never got over the fact that he made them look stupid by correctly choosing McNabb over Ricky Williams, Akili Smith or Cade McNown). From reading the knowledgeable fan blogs, looking at FB threads where people have to use their real names and speaking to real fans in sports bars it sounds like the majority of Philadelphia fans are with the national writers. Perhaps it’s time for the local writers to realize that maybe they’re the ones that are out of touch with us.

    • TXEaglesFan

      As a long time eagles fan, I appreciate what Reid did to bring this team to respectability. The eagles and playoffs were rarely used in the same sentence until he came to Philly. I can’t tell from what you wrote if you just want Philly fans to acknowledge Reid, or you actually think he should stay as a coach? For me with all the appreciation, it is time to move on, clean house. As much respect Reid earned this team, it has been a complete 180 the last two years, not to mention 4-5 years of defensive drafting that have really damaged the near term outlook.

  • Johngiam

    Hopefully Tomorrow is a beginning of a new era…I don’t even want o wait il weds day to know that we are getting a new coach

  • Reid loss the players who were the heart and soul of the Eagles for years. The current crop of Eagles don’t have heart. A lot of the player commitment was sacrificed by how the Front Office conducts business.

  • morgan c

    Tim, you nailed it. The over-adulation for Reid in the national media is hilarious, frustrating, and pure asinine at this point. You forgot to mention the ESPN crew and the Ditkas (all ex-coaches really) of the world blindly praising him as if this were 2004. I literally wish I could meet one of these idiots and just say “hasn’t won a playoff game since 2008, 12-20 record past two seasons… but he’s still BB, in your mind, right?”

  • Bdawkbdawk

    Why would one segment Reid’s career by the last four years, Tim? Seems arbitrary to me. Reid has rebuilt this team twice on the fly. That means he inherited a few good players , developed them into allstars, watched them retire, drafted more allstars, developed them, watched everyone retire and rebuilt the team. That cannot and should not be forgotten. Aside from lucking into a Tom Brady to stabilize a team, no coach has maintained a team without down years. Reid deserves another two years. No silly ultimatum this time.

  • Mothra

    I like you Tim, I really do. But you are stretching it REALLY far with putting John Fox on Reid’s level. 1 year with arguably the greatest QB of his era, if not all time, does not make him a better coach.