Eagles Wake-Up Call: On Momah’s Chances

Momah

Ifeanyi Momah says that when he looks back at the tape of the joint practices with the Patriots from a year ago, it makes his stomach turn.

“I looked terrible. During one-on-ones I didn’t catch a single pass,” said Momah. “Looking back at that film, it gets me kind of upset. I made sure [on Tuesday] when I came out here during one-on-ones, I tried to beat up the DBs and I caught every pass that came to me.”

It’s not just one-on-ones where progress has been made. In the absence of Riley Cooper, Momah continues to run with the first team, getting the nod over the likes of Arrelious Benn and Jeff Maehl, who are considered his top competition for the final wide receiver slot (assuming they keep six). As has been noted in this space and elsewhere, Momah is vastly improved from a  year ago. He is better getting off the line, is using his size to his advantage more, running  cleaner routes and is learning how to harness his 4.4 speed. (Momah claims to have run a 4.39-40 in a private workout for Philly last year.)

You see the improvement and watch him roll with the ones, and you wonder if this 6-7, 239-pound project has a legitimate chance to stick.

There are a few things Momah has going for him. Size, for one. There is nobody on the roster that is like him, which will weigh in his favor as the Eagles try to put together a well-rounded 53-man. His cause is further helped by the fact that Benn and Maehl have not done much to distinguish themselves this summer. The other thing to consider is Momah’s upside. He has improved so much over the last year. What’s his ceiling?

“One thing about Mo is from last year to this year, he’s grown in leaps and bounds,” said Chip Kelly, “and he’s continuing to make strides.”

From those angles, he appears to be in good shape. But the one area that could make or break him is special teams.

“If you’re not the starter, because you only have 46 guys active on special teams, you’re going to have to ‑‑ your backup receivers, your backup running backs, your backup tight ends, your backup linebackers, your DBs, they have all got to contribute [on special team],” said Kelly. 

“If you’re not in the one, two, three at the wide receiver spot you’ve got to be a great special teams player.”

Kelly referenced Brad Smith– “a four-core special teams guy” — as an example. Smith is in good position to make the team along with Maclin, Cooper, Jordan Matthews and Josh Huff. The Eagles could carry another wideout, though it’s no guarantee that they do so. Based on his comments, Kelly will have to be convinced that Momah can be effective on special teams to justify spending a roster spot on him. Momah says he is participating in each area of special teams during practice but seems to be working a lot with the second group. He anticipates that he will get a good amount of work with specials Friday.

Fair to say the coaching staff will be watching closely.

WHAT YOU MISSED

Jeremy Maclin can’t finish practice. Here are the details.

“The Eagles aren’t going to be able to afford keeping Ertz off the field once the regular season starts.” Practice observations courtesy of Mr. Kapadia.

Bill Belichick offers his thoughts on Chip Kelly and Nick Foles. 




WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Jeff McLane touches on the play of Curtis Marsh in his practice observations.

Curtis Marsh had another standout series of plays in this drill. He broke up two Brady passes, although one was an errant throw. The Eagles have always liked Marsh’s man-press defensive skills, but he has struggled in zones. On Friday against the Bears, for instance, he appeared to jump out of his zone in Cover 3 and allowed a receiver to get open and score a touchdown. I don’t think there’s a roster spot for Marsh but stranger things have happened.

Jimmy Kempski thinks the way the game will be called this year could negatively impact Bradley Fletcher.

Ever since the referees showed up at Eagles camp a couple weeks ago to begin enforcing the new emphasis on illegal contact by defensive backs and wide receivers, Bradley Fletcher has not been the same. Being physical with receivers down the field is a big part of Fletcher's game, and if the league does indeed get more strict, he could be in trouble. 

COMING UP

A walkthrough at 9:30 a.m. followed by some player availability before our attention turns to Friday night.

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  • Jeff Asay

    With Maclin doing his Mr. Glass impression, Cooper unable to get on the field, and two rookies plus Momah as the next guys up, everyone will be screaming by mid-season about how Nick Foles has regressed. Go figure.

    • Eagles4Life

      I really hope those 2 get (and stay) healthy or it’s going to get reeeaaaally ugly. Another reason why it was stupid to let DJacc go, at least for this year, until we could see what we had.

      • airgreen7

        I wish that people would stop whining about Djacc. Yeah he was a good player. But he’s gone. That chapter is closed. Obviously he would still be here if he fit Chip’s scheme or was a team player. But he was lacking in one area or another. If we take a step back this year, so be it. Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward. I have to trust in my team and have faith that the decisions made will benefit us in the long run.

        • aub32

          The chapter will not be closed until we get an opportunity to see this offense in the regular season. If Mac can’t come back healthy and this offense struggles, you better believe letting Jackson go for nothing will be one of the most talked about subjects here and elsewhere. Chip has earned the benefit of the doubt with the way he schemed for everyone to have a career year. However, is this offense takes a major step back, I’d expect a lot of the “in Chip we trust crowd” to be very vocal about the release of our #1 WR without an established asset to replace him.

          • airgreen7

            Well, I won’t be in that category. I don’t bemoan the loss of Djacc one bit. I loved his play, I will admit that. But that ship has sailed. I’m looking towards the future of the team. I won’t dwell on what could have been. Fans have been doing that for years. Every year it’s a new issue. Every team has its issues and problems. I’m looking for a step up this season or a bounce back next season. Plain and simple.

          • JofreyRice

            I hear you, but there really no way to judge the wisdom of that move without examining the effects of it. It’s really a way to judge Kelly & Roseman and determine what kind of decisions their thought process will lead them toward in the future: good or bad.

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            Jackson was cut because of his attitude and not buying in to Kelly’s system. It’s more about the locker room than his on the field play, so we can’t really see any effects.

          • aub32

            What? We may not see any effects in the locker room, but we will definitely see the effects on the field. If this offense is productive, then people will say, “O, CK didn’t need Jax.” However, if it struggles and WRs can’t get open much of that will be attributed to lack of talent.

          • JofreyRice

            eh, that will be cold comfort if the offense can’t score points at the same rate, and takes a signficant step back. I’m not getting into the whole thing again, but there is a the POV that dealing with divas is part of the territory, to a certain degree. Super Bowl champ Percy Harvin was considered one of the league’s biggest malcontent. Marshawn Lynch can be a headache. Same thing with Richard Sherman.

        • Eagles4Life

          Lol if we’re possibly keeping 6 WRs where does the “have to take a step back” part come in? It would have done no harm to have the exact same draft and integrate the rookie WRs all while keeping Desean through this season. I’m over the situation at this point, but it still doesn’t negate how foolish it was.

      • eaglespur

        ai said it best – “PRACTICE!” they’re letting cooper heal because this is practice. but maclin.. yeah.. he does have a more fragile history, but I’d guess he’s no more fragile than djac, who has also been missing PRACTICE

        • aub32

          DJax actually has a better injury history than Mac. He’s small but protected himself well.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Agreed here. Helped that Andy didn’t have him go over the middle much. Think he learned his lesson when he did. Chip only did because he created the space to do it safely. Plus, DJ knows when to get out of bounds.

          • aub32

            I wish Andy hadn’t fallen so in love with the deep ball. I always wanted to see him expand DeSean’s route tree to at least include some out routes and drags. It was nice getting to see it work for at least one season with Chip. I think he had a chance to be the #1 WR in the history of the franchise. That would have been pretty sweet when you consider McCoy, soon to be the #1 RB in the franchise was on the same field. Really make me think how much talent got wasted in ’11 and ’12.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Can’t disagree with this. I think in 2 or 3 more years, in Chip’s system maximizing his abilities, he almost definitely would’ve had all the franchise records for WRs. It’s almost baffling, actually, when you consider Andy’s love of the passing game that he couldn’t diversify it more or adapt it.

          • aub32

            Adaptation is probably Andy’s biggest shortcoming as a coach.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Yeah, in hindsight that was one of the dumbest things I’ve said on this board, if not the dumbest.

        • Eagles4Life

          That’s all well and good. I just hope those aren’t regular season issues, because behind those two, we are thin. And I don’t think anyone will be confident in overcoming the loss of either one like we did last season with Mac out.

    • Rellihcs

      Right because we’re a passing team who only gets a few scoring opportunites, and we have weak tight ends. And we didn’t add anything more to the pass catching running back department this year so our offense really does rely on the play of the WRs….

      Ok maybe my sarcasm was a bit overboard… but maybe not. I’m thinking they are being cautious with Cooper and Maclin for good reason. No reason to worry here.

      • cheapmeat.mariota.crackwh0re

        My head was about to explode until I read the second paragraph…

      • aub32

        I don’t think we should be in panic mode, but there is some reason to worry when the guy coming back from an ACL injury has to leave the field once a week.

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

          Less than two games into the preseason and we’ve already had 4 Jeremy Maclin injury scares.

  • FluxCapacitor

    Momah is so intriguing…if he can just get his WR skills to above average he could do really well. His size/speed combination is crazy. The question asked by Tim about his ceiling really is mind boggling when you think about it.

    • bill

      I’m going to preface this by saying I was one of the people that predicted the Eagles would sign Cooper to a bigger contract than most wanted after last year, and repeatedly said that size did matter to Chip at WR – I think Chip values what Coop brings to the offense. That said…
      I would love it if, by mid-season, Cooper starts having to play on STs because Momah is better at the things Coop brings to the offense. Pipe dream? Probably. But that’s what August is for!

      • dnabrice

        Coop has the baseball skills of tracking deep Foles’ bombs, Momah doesn’t.

  • Travis Papa

    I’m pretty convinced momah makes the roster as the 6th wr at this point. His ST he can work on thru the yr because he will be inactive at least 12gms barring injury to other guys. He will be inactive with Barkley the 5th olb the 4th ilb and a total of 3 OL/DL. They won’t risk him on the practice squad and won’t rush him on the field on Sundays. More or less they will realize by cutting him at this point he won’t get any better the only way to further his development is to string him along at the bottom of the roster for a yr.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      think 5. Ertz moves like a WR and Sproles can take over slot in a pinch. plus no one in the world wants Maehl besides Philly. they can rent a condo next to Novacare Center, give him a web stream of meetings and binoculars to keep up with practices. he can be the street 6th WR.
      .
      see Eagles going D heavy. dont draft Kruger only to jettison him out after getting basically 1 pre-season, and doubt they’ll risk PS-every team needs DL depth. what are they going to do with Graham v Long. they’ve been raving about Long for 8 months now, he’s sticking. BG? his contract is so bad, why take 3m dead and then take on more money with new guy? this point, either deactivate gameday and eat the money or point him and Curry at QBs on 3rd and long-both are what they are for the Eagles, 3rd down specialists. ugh, secondary, Jaylen aint ready, FLethcer sounds lost and Carroll cant stay healthy. might forced to carry 6dbs. another ugh b/c another yr of Marsh

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        That math works for me. Even though Chip keeps insisting he’s a running back, Sproles is more wideout than anything. 5WR and 4RB. Tucker makes the 53.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          Think Fluellen could swipe the 4th spot from him?

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            He’s a guy I wouldn’t mind seeing on the taxi squad. Think Tucker has shown more at this point.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          true, forgot about him. go 3 qbs, 3te, 4rbs, 5wrs, 8OL. and stash burton, Momah or pratt or boone (maybe 2), josie or Flu, and least 1 OL. and Kinne. dont see many PS D guys.

      • Travis Papa

        Ertz is a te and Sproles is a rb those spots are already accounted in formations scheme and roster. BG has to be kept bc there is literally 0 experience/starts behind barwin/Cole. Smith Brahman long cannot be the 3 olbs that backup barwin/Cole. Long can and will make to the PS. Kruger has done 0 to make anyone think he won’t make it to the PS. Marsh is not endanger of being poached by another team don’t think he’s still PS eligible but could sit at home waiting in the wings. Kelly would not be giving momah 1st team reps for poops and giggles if he didn’t see a purpose and value to it. He’s not going to have Foles throwing to some body for no reason if the guy didn’t have a legitimate shot at a roster spot. Those would be wasted reps

  • Bullwinkle

    Obviously, Momah is being given a golden opportunity to prove himself and make the team. I think the Pats game will be crucial for him. If he does not do well, then somebody else may get the opportunity to step up.

  • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

    I definitely thought Momah was pretty bad last year. It wasn’t for lack of potential or that he was missing something that you just can’t teach. It was simply because he didn’t seem to know how to use his tremendous size and straight line speed to his advantage. IF he is learning to high-point balls and create separation in small spaces so he can turn on the jets then he’s got some serious potential.

    I know Mr. Colton will disagree, but honestly what did we bash him for last year? Inability to use his god-given talents. What is he getting praise for this year? Using them.

    Imagine a red zone package of Momah, Coop, Pope, Ertz, and Shady. Good friggin’ luck!

    • John E. Zang

      Exactly what I said imagine Momah, Coop, Ertz and Mathews/Maclin in the slot. Or a package without the slot and the addition of Sproles and McCoy.

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        Yea, (Left to right) Momah wide, Shady in the backfield, Ertz at Right TE, Sproles in the slot, and Coop (or maybe Pope) wide right. Or replace Sproles with Pope, or this, or that, or 100 combinations of awesome. Couple small and quick guys and a couple towers.

    • ceedubya9

      I feel as though he would bring more to the team than either of the guys he is competing against. As a WR, he seems to be comfortably ahead of Huff right now. If he can find some way to be useful on Specials, then he should have no problem making the final roster if they plan on keeping 6. I’d hate to see Maehl make it over him.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        I’d hate to see Maehl make it, period. Guy has no upside at this point. Benn, too. I didn’t like the Benn trade last year. I’d rather see Momah, Pratt, or Boone have a shot at the 6th spot over those two.

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          And if it’s between Momah, Pratt, or Boone then I’ll take the guy with the highest ceiling. If any of them see the field for regular snaps during the regular season we’ve got problems anyway.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Agreed.

        • JofreyRice

          The point Sheil makes above, about the improvement Momah’s made, and what it might mean for what improvement he *can* make, in the future, is pretty enticing. Yeah, fully agree. No Benn, no Maehl. I’m still holding out hope that Pratt can push Boone for that last practice squad spot (no I’m not, I don’t really care).

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      Good argument, but your red zone fantasy package leaves out Maclin – the guy the Eagles expect will be their #1 WR, in favor of the guy nobody in the NFL wanted?

      Replace Mohmah with Celek, Maclin, Smith, Huff, Casey, Tucker split wide, Barbre as tackle eligible, the peanut vendor, or the guy from the Phillies games who yells “everybody hits”

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        I love the “everybody hits” guy haha.

        I didn’t say that he’s NFL ready right now. In fact, all of my comment was basically under the pretense that he’s doing the things he didn’t do last year; i.e. take advantage of his size and athleticism.

        I have no fantasy of him being a No.1 or even a 2 or a 3 right now. I’m just kind of wondering why some people feel like you can write a book on a second year player who’s rookie year came after almost two years of inactivity due to injury. By all accounts he’s better now than he was last week and he was better last week than he was last year. Doesn’t consistent improvement warrant a look, or a thought?

        The rest of your comment is hyperbole. Since when is suggesting that a 6’7″ wide receiver, who is young and improving, be used in the red zone as a weapon analogous to using a tackle eligible or a peanut vendor?

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

          ehh, I think you’re either hyped until you’re a bust. Or you suck until you prove you were a hidden gem. My biggest issue with Mohmah is that he’s out there with the ones. Some folks here are taking that as proof that Mohmah has some kind of talent. I see it and am getting REALLY worried (like full-Token) about our WR depth.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I guess I just respectfully disagree with that way of thinking. You’re basically saying (if I’m over simplifying then please do tell) that a player is either good or bad. There is no in between, say “average”, or improving?

            To you second point, I wonder what any team in the NFL would look like if their top two receivers were sitting and their project number 3 was a rookie still learning the ropes (in other words, not running with the number ones, yet).

            Let’s look at Chi-Town (who has the best WR’s in the league IMO). What do they look like if both Jeffrey and Marshall are sitting? Josh Morgan, Eric Weems, and a couple of rookies is what they look like. Hardly a scary tandem. What I’m trying to say is there is no team in the NFL that has a starting quality players as their 4, 5, 6 guys or they wouldn’t be on that team. Basically if you’re number 1 and 2 players go down at any position, you’re screwed… Unless of course you find a “gem”.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Was making more of a generic statement about how fans react. you’re right, of course, plenty of middle ground.

            I would trade with Chicago in a heartbeat in terms of depth. Cooper is hurt now. Maclin seems like he’s always hurt. We know how hard it is to depend on rookie WR. If (whoever he is) our 5th & 6th WR sees major time this year, our offense won’t be as good.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I agree… I made the same statement to Nick on this thread I believe.

            Of course I’d rather trade with Chi in terms of starting talent. Our discussion was about depth, however. You said the Eagles have none and I replied by saying I think they have similar depth to any other team. After the top couple players it gets thin and if those guys are playing a bulk of your snaps, you’re in trouble.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            part of my fear concerning depth is lingering resentment over DeSean.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I get that, but I’m sure you know that resentment will cloud your judgement. If DeSean stayed then it’s likely Mac or Coop would be gone and our depth would be just the same. So really, your fear / concern / resentment is with regard to our starting talent, not our depth.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            we have no way of knowing that. all I know is – I’d feel a lot better with Smith as our 6th WR, and Jordan Matthews as our 4th.

          • Dominik

            You know I respect you, Rich, but you’re overreacting here (like full-Token, these are your words ;)).

            Trade the Pope, Smith and Huff for some players no one outside of Chicago really knows “in a heatbeat”? Please.

            Yes, our first team doesn’t scare you at the moment, but that’s because Chip still didn’t give the Pope and Huff the green light. If our starting rec. corps in camp would look like Matthews – Smith – Huff, would you be as concerned as you are with Momah and Been on the 1st team?

            Maehl and Johnson suck badly and I don’t want them on the 53, but other than those two, I can life with all the decisions at this position: take only 5, Momah, Boone, even Cunningham for god sakes.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Marshall and Jeffery are the best WR duo in the league right now – that’s the trade I would make. My fear is that this is how the regular season plays out – Maclin gets hurt, Cooper plagued by nagging injuries and we’re forced to rely on rookies who aren’t ready – or scrubs like Maehl, Mohmah, & Morellius Menn

          • Dominik

            You wrote

            I would trade with Chicago in a heartbeat in terms of depth

            If you meant you would trade for the whole package, with Marshall and Jeffery, and not trade our depth for theirs, I can’t argue with you. I think every team in the league besides the Lions would trade their WR corps for theirs. And if you leave Salary aside for a moment, you can bet your house that Chip would love that trade also. ;)

  • John E. Zang

    One more thing about Momah. I think the Eagles realize if they don’t sign him another team will at this point especially after practicing with Bill.

  • B-West

    I think Chip left himself wiggle room between the 46 that dress and the 53 on the squad. He’ll get another season in the background to improve, but they’ll have to keep him on the roster or someone else will pick him up.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      think he’ll be safe on PS. if a team picks him up, that means they have to guarantee a 53 spot. Chip isnt reinventing the wheel here with back end needing to ST’rs, it’s that we went thru 14 yrs of a guy who forgot he needed a punt returner at one point. also, the guy is still terribly raw, and not sure how many routes of the tree they even have Momah running. plus, there’s 31 other teams disposing of guys, well 30, no one is clamoring for Carolina caste-offs.

      • B-West

        Personally, I’d probably agree with you that he’d be ok on the PS. Reading the tea leaves from the team though? Its seems like they are pretty high on him and may not want to take the risk. We already have like 5 spots dedicated to special teams aces, we can stash a potential guy in the 7 don’t dress.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          i do see a big numbers crunch because Long, Watkins, Reynold and Kruger are in that 7, and not sure any can be counted on for serious PT, so still have to keep normal amount at each position. none of these guys are getting cut or risking PS. plus 1 OL.
          .
          wouldnt be surprised if Eagles only carry 23 or 24 on offense, with most of them active (3rd qb and last OL), and use PS for depth. Burton wont be claimed, pratt, Boone or Graf either. and load up on Defense, as you said, have lot of ST aces and some youth that i dont see them giving up on, but not ready to contribute. should be interesting.

    • 370HSSV 0773H

      Nobody is “picking him up”. He had 2 receptions for 15 yards last week.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        The Mohmah interest is amazing. He isn’t a top 7 WR on the team. All he is, is tall. Let’s sign Shawn Bradley while we’re at it.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          I wan’t Manute’s son. Bol Bol. “That young Bol Bol made a great catch!”

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            that actually would be worth a spot on the 53

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          i’d pay good money, no great money, to see bradley catch a slant all stretched out infront of Cam Chancellor. be like a lion seeing a wildabeast with a broken leg

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          Nah, he’s too old.

      • B-West

        It’s a risk. My read is that the organization is very high on him and they don’t want to lose him. I also think the Eagles are not the only team who’s eyes light up over measurables. I don’t think you can completely dismiss the idea of someone else scooping him up.

        • 370HSSV 0773H

          He was cut last year and no other team signed him.

          The only “tape” other teams have on Momah is last years preseason games where he stunk, and last weeks game where he caught 2 balls for 15 yards.

          If Benn and Momah were released today, more teams would be interested in Benn because he was drafted in the 2nd round. Momah didn’t play his senior year and went undrafted. Other teams aren’t interested in training camp warriors. Momah needs to make some plays in preseason games for other teams to be interested in him.

          He’s been given a great opportunity to play friday and I’m really looking for to watching him.

          • B-West

            I think your opinion underestimates how the Eagle’s feel about him and how nuts they are for measureables, bozo.

  • 370HSSV 0773H

    I get a kick out of people’s comments on here about Momah being signed by another team. First of all, what has he done, except not look as horrible as he did last year? Can anyone think of any outstanding play the guy has made in a preseason game? Thats what other teams will be looking at.

    Relax! He’ll be re-signed to our practice squad.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Where he can be poached. Other teams like height at WR, too. Especially with sub 4.5 speed that is developing.

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        B.B. would snatch him up quick. He might release him the next week, but he’d darn sure take a shot in the dark at that kind of given ability.

      • 370HSSV 0773H

        Any team who claims him from our practice squad has to sign him to their 53 man roster. Who would do that? Who would sign an undrafted, second year player, who would have to learn the teams offense? He would also have to play on their special teams, which he’s not good at. He may not make our roster where the 5th and 6th receiver spots are up for grabs.

        You people need to stop exaggerating about the guy. Until he actually shows something in a preseason game, he shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          At no point did I call this kid a stud or overhype him. If they sign him to the 53, that means about nothing, since they dress 46 on game day. Carolina needs receiver help, SF could use some, Buf could use some. There’s plenty of teams who could potentially nab him, pay him the prorated minimum, and have him not dress while he develops in their system. In no way am I exaggerating. He’s intriguing and developing. So, yeah, there are a few teams who could potentially sign and stash. Not sure what’s hard to grasp there. Maybe you should stop exaggerating the fact that measurables intrigue coaches and GMs, enough to have them sign a guy to not dress.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            problem with Momah as 6t WR, who cant play and is taking spot to develope is now he isnt going up against Benn or Maehl, he’s going up against the last guy in every position. are they willing to rish Momah vs Kruger, Long, Marsh, Knott, Reynolds, etc? Eagles are pretty young and set at O skilled positions, i can risk Momah. need to develope these young D guys.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’d say yes. I understand that they’re confident that Maclin can stay healthy. However, I don’t see Chip as the type to not hedge a little there. I also think Jake will Knott make the team.

          • piatz1019

            I see what you did there. Point: Nick

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Teams had, what? 16 months to sign him & nobody did. At 6’7″ & sub 4.4, shouldn’t he be a special teams monster? He’s a giraffe on skates. A “hands team” mistake in the waiting.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Rich, I get you don’t like him. But there’s obviously a noticeable difference between him this year and last. No one is calling this kid a stud or even a number 1 WR. But to say he hasn’t put the work in to improve is letting your hate of the kid blind you.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            My blind hate is part of the fun. Yes – of course you’re right. He has looked a lot better in the one-on-one drills. What has he done in games? Production hasn’t been there at all. And remember Foles’ 2nd Int vs the bears? He and Ertz were less than 3 feet from each other. The coaches will never say who – but one of those guys really screwed up his route. My money is on Mohmah.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Might have been, prob was, but again, developing.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            i see nothing wrong with disliking a player and sticking to your guns (com’on Wolffie!). unless, you are Dutch bashing Foles

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            I felt the same way about Cooper – was certain he’d be cut. I was just wrong. Glad I was.

          • aub32

            I wasn’t. I said time and again that’d he outlast Avant on this team. Times got bleak, but that little guy came through. (TOOT TOOT!)

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            The guy caught 2 passes for 15 yards last week. Yeah, I’m sure GM’s around the league have Momah on their radar! LOL.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            at that size, he probably does show up on radar

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            So 2 more passes and 15 yards more than Sammy Watkins. Thanks for pointing that out.

            EDIT: Obviously I’m not saying the dude’s better than Watkins, but your game stats as a way to knock him are stupid and meaningless.

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            So now your saying Momah is better than Sammy Watkins?

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            he’s saying no one in their right mind bases an arguement pro or against a player based on pre-season numbers

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            Ok, then lets look at Momah’s regular season numbers: ZERO

            Momah, being an undrafted player, has to show a lot more than Sammy Watkins. Watkins has a college career to back him up. Momah doesn’t even have that. He sat out his senior season, stunk last year, and had 2 catches last week. Quite a resume.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            If you took that and treated it as a comparison to Watkins in any way, as opposed to what Cliff pointed out, you just have to be trolling. Watkins was drafted #5 overall to be their guy to pair with what they hope is a franchise QB. There is no comparison since we’re discussing keeping Momah as the 6th WR vs PSing him and possibly, POSSIBLY, losing him to being poached.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            “Obviously I’m not saying the dude’s better than Watkins…” It was in plain sight.

        • JofreyRice

          I think it’s more or less about comparing him to the other bottom of the roster players he’s competing against for a theoretical 6th WR spot. If Momah has done 0, then Benn & Maehl are negative integers.

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            I can’t believe one these guys hasn’t stepped up and claimed that last roster spot. Lets hope one of them shows up for the Pats game.

    • jabostick

      The sentence that jumps out to me more is how Maehl and Benn aren’t distancing themselves from him. There are bottom of the roster guys on every team that are ‘meh’ and I don’t think it’d be hard to find someone who thinks they can eek out some of the potential ESPECIALLY if he’s showed clear improvement. Add on a cheap contract and why wouldn’t someone give him a shot?

  • TNA

    A little over a week ago there was a comment thread on Shady’s ball security — well, here’s what the man himself had to say about it yesterday:

    “So many things I can get better at,” said McCoy, who said “I did not play to my potential today,” in practice because he wasn’t perfect in two of his four reps in pass protection. “Sometimes I get wrapped up in my God-given abilities instead of just actually doing the fundamental things. Reading my keys. The small things that you can get away with because you have that natural talent. But sometimes if you let the play develop and then use the other stuff, it makes me better.

    “I can name different things. Ball security. I don’t fumble the ball much, but I’m trying to limit the ball being out (away from my body) so much. There are so many things, and I know that. A lot of players, they hide it because they get to a certain level where they feel like they’re so good they hide it. I don’t hide it. If I have a bad game, I sit here and tell you guys I had a bad game.

  • Joe Thomas

    The fact that Momah is practicing with the ones is kind of an indication that Chip wants him on the team. Chip would not waste first team reps on a guy he didn’t believe in.

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      Chips’s old mother hubbard, and only Mohmah’s in the cupboard. Him starting tells me that: Cooper and Maehl are in boots, Maclin is hermetically sealed until the Jacksonville game, and our 3 & 4 guys are rookies.

      MOmah is terrible. He looks good in drills. This is crazy.

      • Eaglehaslanded

        LOL, he (Momah) caught two nice passes in in the first period of the Bears game. Jeff Maehl and Benn were both invisible. Get on the Mo-mentum train Richard….get on the train. Mathews looks good in practice, but looked horrible in the game, you can’t deny that. Maehl is out of the walking boot. He ran with the ones the other day, guess what, Chip put Momah back with the ones after Maehl got a shot there, must’ve not impressed…who would’ve thunk it…lol. Maehl blows.

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

          OK – good showing vs Pats and i’ll consider the train. And Maehl sucks too. But he sucks and can play special teams. Mohmah sucks and is big.

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            Lets face it, our depth at wide receiver sucks this year! I can’t believe one of those guys hasn’t stepped up. I’m mostly disappointed in Benn.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            think it’s better depth than last year. give JMatt and Huff more than a quarter before pulling ripcord on the yr. plus, Ertz and Sproles have to be at least half counted as WRs. man, Ertz might be my new favorite, the way he moved against Chi was cool to see.

          • aub32

            Why? I think you only have yourself to blame for having expectations of the guy in the first place. There’s a reason we got the guy for a song.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Would have rather used the pick on drafting a 6th rounder, or 7th, whatever the trade was.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            Please tell me the impact Maehl makes on ST’s, he is not a gunner, no return duty or ability, nor have I heard his name mentioned in any tackles. Momah is working on ST’s duties, his length gives him ability to block kicks on extra point duty. Momah was hurt in college playing ST’s. OK….if he has a good showing in NE I want you on the Mo-mentum train. But, what is your definition of a good showing?

          • TNA

            CK said Maehl is one of the best tacklers on ST. Along with CMatthews. So there is that.
            I’m not a huge fan of Maehl, but I think one of the beat writers tweeted an interesting chart of the 3 cone times at the combine. Not surprisingly, athletes like Sproles and Wolff were near the too of the chart. But guess who was #1? Jeff f’in Maehl.
            And about the dream red zone offense. No way Momah is in there while Mac sits. Momah has improved but is still not good at getting off the line and making the quick cuts needed to separate out of breaks. Yes he is talk and can win jump balls, but he has to get in the end zone first and be able to create separation. Mac is waaaaay ahead of Momah in that regard. It’s not really comparable.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            Chip says a lot of things, I watch the games, sorry, but Jeff Maehl rarely makes plays, he may come in on assist tackles, as I stated though, rarely is his name mentioned. LOL, you’re bringing up 3 cone drills, please stop it. His 3 cone drill prowess does not translate to the field. Momah and Benn will be starting tonight with Coop and JMac sitting out, if Maehl was so good why isn’t he getting those first team reps with the #1 and 2 out, because Chip knows his potential and ceiling is limited. …So there’s that! Maehl is literally like the 6th to 7th option at WR on the team because he doesn’t deliver. As I stated, you can shake a tree and twenty of him will fall out, nothing special about his not so special teams play either. Momah has unique traits as far as his height, wingspan and speed for someone his size at wr. Schurmer said that Momah is the most improved WR in camp. Maybe that’s why he is getting more snaps than Maehl. By the way, who is this article about? Momah, haven’t seen to many Maehl articles, reason being, he’s just a guy who has already reached his ceiling, there’s nothing worth writing about on him….he’s just a guy who’s on what his 2nd or 3rd team already in 3 years. He was ps material until he came here and Chip gave him a chance, and his lack of production shows why he is only practice squad material. If Chip lets him go, to the CFL he goes where his ability (or lack there of) is more suited for.

          • Eaglehaslanded

            LMAO, just looked up Maehl’s numbers as a pro. It’s worse than I thought, he’s been in the league 4 years…FOUR, and has 67 total yards….lol. That’s 16.75 total yards gained per season. That’s less than 1 yard per game over a full season….lol. Please stop with Jeff Maehl, I just went outside and shook a tree, guess what, 20 Jeff Maehl’s just fell out. He stinks!!! Jeff Maehl…lmao…pleases stop bro…you’re killin me…lol. Chip likes him as a person, that’s why he’s here, not based on talent. If Chip didn’t know him, he wouldn’t even be on his radar due to lack od production and ability. Russel Sheppard had a better preseason than Maehl last year and Chip kept Maehl, Chip feels sorry for him…it’s employment via nepotism, not ability or skill when it comes to Maehl. He should be fired because he clearly doesn’t deliver (the maehl=mail) consistently…..16.75 yards per season. That’s a joke. I can do that, really, I can.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            twss

          • Wilbert31

            So what you’re saying is that we just need the Momessiah to gain some Mo-mentum in the Pats game, and you are on board? That’s great!

        • Wilbert31

          Mo-Mentum! I love it.

          • JofreyRice

            He’ll be our Momessiah!

    • 370HSSV 0773H

      I think Chip is probably using Momah in Cooper’s spot because they are similar in build. This might be more about Foles than Momah.

      • Joe Thomas

        That is possible, but i think Chip values them reps too much

  • 370HSSV 0773H

    Have you people learned nothing about wide receivers and training camp? Didn’t we hear how Matthews was catching everything in site, then dropped almost every ball thrown to him last friday. Now we hear how Momah has improved and is running with the first team, so you bozos already have him penciled in as a starter? LOL.

    • jabostick

      If that one preseason game is the be-all, end-all, then I assume you’re in the camp that thinks we should ditch Foles already and start Sanchez?

      • 370HSSV 0773H

        Foles has last year on his resume and deserves the benefit of the doubt. Here’s Momah’s career: He sat out his entire senior season, went undrafted, stunk last year, and had 2 catches for 15 yards last week.

        • jabostick

          That comment was more in response to your Matthews comment than in it was Momah

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            My comment was about not getting too excited about these guys that look great in camp.

            Matthews was a second round pick and had a stellar college career. That was his first NFL game. Momah’s been here 2 years now and needs to show us something during real games.

            I’m glad he’s shown some improvement, but lets see it against the Pats friday and not just on the practice field.

    • aub32

      Momah had a decent grab in the game with the ball thrown behind him. I hope he does end up making the team. Though that’s not based on his potential. From what I have seen, in camp and the one game, he looks better than Maehl or Benn.

      • 370HSSV 0773H

        If Momah does not standout on ST’s then he really needs to step it up catching the ball. He’s got a great opportunity tomorrow.

        • aub32

          Agreed. I am not saying he should be a lock to make the team. He’s done well with what he’s been asked to do. He’s had a good camp. That’s better than having a terrible to mediocre camp or spending it in a walking boot. He caught the passes thrown to him in the game. That’s about all he gives you. Does he really need to be a good STer? He likely won’t dress unless there is an injury. Then he will be brought in to play WR not a gunner.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Anyone know if Momah has gotten any reps on the FG block unit? Would love to see him charging the middle from the LB spot.

        • 370HSSV 0773H

          I was thinking that with Villanueva.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            If only Villanueva had a shot, I’d stay put Beau, Benny, and Curry in the middle of the line to charge/shoot gaps, and have those two jumping over the middle of the pile that Beau pushed back.

          • 370HSSV 0773H

            I wonder if Bennie Logan is playing tomorrow? I would love to see Beau Allen play with the starters.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            He better start playing if he doesn’t want to lose his job! Which, he may in time if Beau keeps progessing. We’ll see, though.

    • peteike

      and we all liked some of the young WRs last camp and they were dumped for ST guys so ya, I dont see him getting in because of that.

  • Explorer51

    Possible that they stash rookie TEs Annen or Burton on PS so that Ertz can move over to WR in emergency; could just look like a 3 TE formation with Ertz running WR routes. When Kelly says flexible he means flexible!

    I wouldn’t be surprised in CK’s second year we start to really see some mad scientist stuff, either because he’s more comfortable…or desperate.

    • 370HSSV 0773H

      I’m not sure you want a corner on Ertz. He’s a better weapon lined up against a linebacker (or safety) where his speed and height gives him an advantage.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Depends the corner. Talib shut down Graham for the most part last year when NE played NO.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        They put a corner on Ertz then they’re in nickle. Shady says thank you for the 6+ yards up the middle.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      Annen has brick hands. Like to see more of Burton. think he’s about 100% PS lock.
      .
      with Sproles and Ertz, options are almost limitless. imagine if Huff can be functional ball carrier. he did some under Kelly at Oregon.

      • aub32

        I highly doubt we see much of Huff carrying the ball. Kelly didn’t have Shady at Oregon.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          can give him all of Polk’s ’13 carries, all 11. Shady does need a breather.
          .
          line sproles in backfield, casey and Ertz on line, then have huff sproles switch, Casey go to FB, and Ertz split wide. mean, we’re discussing mad-scientist fun here, not a set offense.

          • aub32

            I hear you. I just don’t think we see it in an actual game. I still think Huff touches the ball very little in 2014, barring injury.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Hard to bar injury at this point, though.

          • aub32

            True.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            I vote we bar injury.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’d love to bar injury. Maybe Huls should step his game up. (praying he never gets wind I spoke ill of him for fear of my life).

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            playing with fire Nick

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

          I think we’re all going to be surprised by the # of carries Sproles gets. Bet its more than NOL. DeSean got a few carries too – I remember thinking if he had some size/strength to go along with that speed, watch out. I’m excited to see what they do with Matthews/Huff in the run game & w/ bubble or inside screens.

          • aub32

            DeSean did better carrying the rock than indicated on the stat sheet. Several of his carries, including one for a TD got called back. I don’t think he should have had more carries. It was an interesting wrinkle. I am not as excited to see Mac all over the field. I don’t think he plays with enough speed to be effective on an end around, and I do not trust him to fight through that last guy that can get a hand on him.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Maclin? Totally agree. I hope he catches 60+ on the outside.

          • aub32

            That would be a good year in my opinion. That would mean he was effective enough to garner some attention so defenses couldn’t just focus on the middle of the field. I am honestly hoping for a Brady type offense when they are missing Gronk. No one is a top 12 player, but you never know which receiver will have a good game.

      • Explorer51

        I get the sense that CK didn’t like Huff’s “I know this offense from Oregon” chatter during OTAs so Kelly’s been feeding him a little humble pie. If Huff shows that KO return burst on reception opportunities I wouldn’t be shocked if he shows up in the backfield sometime during the season. You figure he’s probably going to play a bunch in the next three preseason games so he should get a lot of looks.

  • peteike

    I was finally able to watch most of the game on DVR and wow, Ive never seen so many flags. It was hard to watch but I have to say later in the game it was just sloppy so a lot of the flags were legit. I read people raving about it but wow, seriously Curry gets in the backfield all the friggin time, its unreal. Also noticed some plays by Reynolds who I havent heard anything about.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      wish i could find the link, chipwagoner did a write-up on Curry. brings alot of that ‘backfield’ into perspective.

      • peteike

        like the way fluellen runs also, was nice to see some game action finally although Im late to the party

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          FLu is a big boy too. he gets Mathis and Peters blocking and opening holes, he’ll dumptruck a LB or 2. wonder what’s the issue with Josie. or if Mizzou was just all air because offense was so wide open.

          • peteike

            really, I couldnt tell, hes actually really shifty then for a big guy.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            here’s the curry link. it’s the usual good stuff from chipwagoneer. he pretty complimentary or Curry, but shows why he still is behind Thornton. i’m in the ‘He’s 3rd down rush specialist for 2 yrs, let’s just enjoy that’ camp.

            .

            http://www.thechipwagon.com/eagles/2014/08/2-gap-1-gap-and-vinny-curry.html

          • peteike

            Thanks

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      just like the regular season? Curry can’t get on the field. Its maddening sometimes.

      • 370HSSV 0773H

        Boykin too. Both these guys don’t fit Kelly’s “measurables” and they aren’t versatile, they just excel at one thing. But they’re our best defensive players that don’t play enough.

    • 370HSSV 0773H

      It’s funny that our two best defensive players, Curry and Boykin, are “specialty” players that excel at one thing – which is the opposite of what Kelly likes, which are players that are versatile.

  • Pennguino

    Momah is competing against Kruger, Long, Phillips, Kelly. Are those guys needed more than a sixth WR. They’ll never go five wide because they will never have Shady, Sproles, and Ertz or Celek off the field at the same time.

  • DAS
    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      AWESOME!

  • JofreyRice

    I’m quite sure Sheil will link it at some point, but Kelly acolyte Chris Brown aka Smart Football, has a new article about Chip up at Grantland.

    It’s a dose of feelgood.

    http://grantland.com/features/chip-kelly-philadelphia-eagles-nfl-influence/

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      I just ready this write up this morning… damn it’s a good one.

    • peteike

      Thanks 2 good natl articles today

    • peteike

      but why are they giving away his secrets

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Just got done reading this and was about to share. Great read.