Afternoon Notes: Kingsbury On Chip

NCAA Football: Texas Tech at Texas

Chip Kelly crossed paths with several coaches in his various travels this offseason.

One coach who came to see Kelly in Philadelphia was Texas Tech’s Kliff Kingsbury. The Red Raiders averaged 35.8 points and 510.7 yards per game in Kingsbury’s first season there.




Speaking to FoxSports.com's Bruce Feldman on The Audible podcast, Kingsbury explained what he got out of his visit.

"I went to Philadelphia and met with those guys, the Eagles coaches, just to see what they were doing differently at that level," he said.

"I thought he's done a great job of staying consistent in who he was at Oregon, bringing it up there and believing in it and excelled. A lot of the same concepts they were successful with at Oregon, they're running and being successful with in one of the top offenses in the NFL. So it was fun to see that. Everybody says, 'Well that offense can't work in the NFL.' He kind of went up there and showed everybody it could. So it was fun to be around that, and hopefully we take some stuff from what I saw up there and incorporate it into our game and get better this year."

EAGLES CAP SPACE

Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com has a piece up on the offseason financial health of all 32 teams. The Eagles currently have over $20.2 million in cap space, fifth-most in the league.

In terms of actual cash, the Eagles are paying eighth-most ($143,038,022) in 2014.

And they are paying out $9,453,783 in dead money - that's money to players no longer on the roster. That ranks right around the middle of the pack; 16 teams are paying less.

BEASON NICKED UP

In NFC East news, Giants linebacker Jon Beason left practice today with an injury. From NJ.com:

Giants linebacker and shoo-in defensive captain Jon Beason was carted off the practice field today. The training staff appeared to be looking at his knee or lower leg, but Beason was able to walk off the field under his own power.

The Giants signed Beason to a three-year deal this offseason.

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  • TripSquadMonopoly

    This guy is an all around TFM.

  • Maggie

    Funny. We frequently read comments on how the Eagles should dump some player or another because he is not a fan favorite and it’s only a million or so in dead money. Somehow $9.5 million sounds like it would concern management a little. The rich folks didn’t get rich by wasting millions.

    • myeaglescantwin

      The team wouldn’t care about dead money unless they were up against the cap ceiling.

      This is money that they have already paid through guarantees, or the various other bonuses when the player signs the contract.

      DeSean Jackson got guaranteed money upfront that was linked to this year. When we traded him, that value gets prorated into the coming season. Same with any player that actualized their signing bonus before a trade.

      the eagles paid the money already, but now the figures count against the cap.
      It’s just money they can’t use.

      • Maggie

        How the money is used, or not used, wasn’t really the point of my comment, but thank you.

        • myeaglescantwin

          ??
          but you’re not wasting money

    • peteike

      I think you have to account for that as part of the business to some degree. Im sure they want or try to minimize it as best they can. New coach and system make it kind of expected

    • Andy

      Not every decision the front office (any front office) makes is going to work out. So would you rather keep a bad player for the year and pay him his entire $4 million in order to avoid $1 million of dead money, or free up his roster spot for a better player and have $1 million of dead money?

      In economics there is this concept called sunk costs. Sunk costs, or money that is already spent or allocated, shouldn’t influence new decisions.

      • dislikedisqus

        Agree in principle but DJax hardly qualifies as a “bad player”. The DJax cut was just bad management of a reasonable personnel decision. They should have pursued trades earlier.

    • Tom W

      Didn’t waste anything. Like article says we are in the middle this yr on dead money and still well under cap. Real concern if dead money figure was larger and we were up against cap without ten to twenty million to carry over for foles and the kids in 2015

  • PaoliBulldog

    Who’s getting paid the dead money? I think Chung’s deal had some guaranteed money, but I didn’t think the Eagles owed anything more to DJax (even though his release did cost them about $5MM against the cap).

    • JosephR2225

      Per Overthecap, Desean is $6.25, Watkins and Chung are just over $1M and Avant is $700k. The others are about $100k or less.

      • Ian Farley

        that is a great website.

      • PaoliBulldog

        I believe that if Chung makes the Patriots’ roster, his salary will offset the Eagles’ cap hit.

    • myeaglescantwin

      The eagles are carrying around $4million from the DeSean deal.
      That’s just a cap penalty that goes against them. Money they can’t spend.

      • PaoliBulldog

        That’s what I thought. Dead money isn’t just money you still owe to a player who is no longer on the roster; it can also be money already paid that has to be accounted for under proration rules.

  • Tom Kazansky

    Someone find the video of Kingsbury orchestrating and then participating in a dance off after a TT spring practice.

    • Ian Farley
      • Tom Kazansky

        That’s the one. Thanks bud. He was asked in an interview for the rationale behind this. Said he promised it to his players if they had a good practice, and that “he’d sell his soul to have a good practice.”

        I like that dude. Wonder if he is looking for an NFL OC gig.

      • Chiptopia

        Coach’s shirt says “Too turnt up”. Awesome

      • EaglefaninAZ

        That’s just a whole bunch of awesome.

  • cliff henny

    Spend more and yet still have more than other teams. No bad contracts and a boatload of flexibility to create cap space next year. Keep up good work Rosebud, Eagles won the Spring CapCup again. sooner or later it has to lead to a Lombardi. it just has to, right?!

    • Tom W

      Still could resign maclin mid season or maybe bfletch but Carroll and Boykin and watkinst may have us wait.

    • borntosuffer

      Yes. Yes it does.

  • myeaglescantwin

    Howie “steely-eyed” Roseman.

    If you can negotiate the 8th highest roster payout while maintaining one of the 5 lowest cap numbers in the league, you are doing something right. Gives me a good feeling when I see players like Demarcus Ware becoming a cap casualty.

    I got ripped for suggesting that Foles would sign a team friendly contract going into 2015, but this is exactly the type of situation I was looking at. If this year goes GANGBUSTERS, Howie and his agent will be able to work out a deal that gets Foles the type of scratch he deserves without killing the Eagles cap numbers.

    Foles has a better shot of creating a lasting legacy if this team has the funds to retain or sing key players. Now that we are finally drafting NFL caliber defensive players, we should be able to build up one hell of a power house.

    • Ian Farley

      Kaep did the same thing, took a team friendly deal that allows SF to continue to build around him. I am all for guys maximizing their value, but they gotta realize their value isn’t s#!t if the team around them is no good. Right Flacco?

      I mean if you get yourself a healthy 12-15 mil/year deal with most of it guaranteed, and allow your team to retain 1-2 high level players with the difference from a 20mil/year deal…. how doesn’t that help you and your longevity as a player? I think this could become a trend for everyone except Cam Newton. who is going to ‘get his’ like he did at Auburn…..

      • Kev_H

        Winning a Super Bowl sure enhances your post playing career possibilities. Howie Long and Tim Green were both great, All Pro defensive lineman contemporaries. Howie got a ring and at least when it came to making money as a commentator, Howie got Fox Studio and Tim got regional games and Battlebots on Comedy Central. Though Tim Green is doing OK as a best selling fiction author (http://www.amazon.com/Tim-Green/e/B000AQ3XK8/ref=sr_tc_2_0?qid=1402626137&sr=1-2-ent).

      • myeaglescantwin

        on another angle,

        Kaep’s agent did him a disservice.
        The contract gives all the power to the team. I would have requested the guarantee’s be fulfilled prior to free agency. They have it set up to hit just before camp.
        After year three he could realistically be cut the next year without incident. I would have set it up so my client could enter the FA market at the peak, not after most shopping is done.

        • Dominik

          I don’t disagree at all, although to be fair to the agent: even if Kaep declines and San Fran would cut him, a guy with his CV would get AT LEAST one more serious chance. And look around the league, FA and Draft is gone, but there are still teams who would love to give a proven QB a chance and give him huge guarenteed money.

          As far as I know Kaep would have to be cut before the draft. If you leave out the draft, you can bet that the Jags, Raiders, Titans, Texans etc. would have paid a huge sum for a QB like that.

    • Tom W

      Dunno why anyone would disagree w you … Absent winning Super Bowl or throwing 50 tds, i see no way that foles potential contract isn’t team friendly. More importantly Howie knows how to write a damn good contract and Balke helped us out a lot.

    • Eagles1018

      Agreed. And you may have to change your profile name….

      • myeaglescantwin

        I know i know.

        and nothing would bring me greater pleasure.
        i’ve had this name since McDermott took over. Makes me sick. but i’ll need a little more hope outta Chipster

  • DetmerWonAHeisman

    “…. Jon Beason was carted off the practice field today. The training staff appeared to be looking at his knee or lower leg, but Beason was able to walk off the field under his own power….”……..How do you get carted off the practice field and walk off the field under your own power at the same time???? Flintsone car????

    • myeaglescantwin

      you YABBA DABBA dont !!

      Chip wants to run 35 times a game. Every team in our division has lost their starting MLB.. (fletcher, beason, lee)
      Dallas lost damn near 4 starters on DL and LB. Washington and NYG are both weak up the middle.

      • PokkelAttleyuvu

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        Riley got an almost new red GMC Canyon just by some parttime working online
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        • myeaglescantwin

          I bet your uncle Riley is a rotten turd that doesn’t know his ars from a hole in the ground.

          how do we get these hacks to stop?

      • DetmerWonAHeisman

        Very true, great point!

        • myeaglescantwin

          Your name had me cracking up. Nice work

  • dislikedisqus

    On the Chip influencing coaches part of this post, there was an article in the last SI about Erik Spoelstra spending a day with CK at ORE back in the lockout year and adapting CK’s use of “pace and space” to the MiA offense.

  • Dominik

    Am I the only one around here who thinks Kingsbury is looking a bit like Ryan Gosling?

    • EaglefaninAZ

      Sheesh. Didn’t catch that. Yer spot on. lol