No-22: Why the Eagles Wanted Josh Huff

NCAA Football: Oregon at Arizona

Update: The Eagles and Huff have agreed to terms on a four-year deal, the team announced.

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Whenever the Eagles draft a player that Chip Kelly has coached, the assumption is Kelly is pulling the strings.

And to be fair, that assumption is pretty much on-target. But in the case of Josh Huff, Eagles GM Howie Roseman wanted to make it clear that he and Kelly were on the same page with their interest in the wide receiver.

"I would say if anything that was on me on Josh Huff, and I was as excited as him [Kelly] if not more," Roseman said. "I just think that as a personnel staff we were really excited about what Josh Huff can do for our offense. The more we watched him and the other receivers and saw his projection, we just got really excited and we wanted him, so that's where we were on Josh."

The case can be made that the Eagles should have waited on Huff. They took him in the third round with the 86th overall pick. There's a decent chance he would have been available later in the fourth round. But the organization decided it didn't want to risk it, and so the Eagles pulled the trigger on a player they had targeted.

From a measurables standpoint, not a lot stands out with Huff:

He's 5-11 and ran a 4.51 at the combine. But the reasons why the Eagles wanted to bring Huff on board are obvious. For starters, as we explained yesterday, they prefer limiting the projections with prospects. In Huff, they have a player Kelly has coached. That removes a lot of the guess-work about how he will fit - both in the Eagles' scheme and in the locker room.

From a football standpoint, the one trait I think the Eagles found most attractive in Huff was his playing personality.

That's a term personnel people and analysts use to describe a prospect's overall on-the-field demeanor. On a consistent basis, Huff plays like he wants to punish defenders.  Here's one example against Texas:

And here's another against UCLA:

Said Kelly: "He has a nasty presence to himself, so he's not risk‑averse to contact. He's going to get after people."

Of course, wide receivers are never drafted because they can block - even in an offense like the Eagles' that wants to run the ball a lot. With Huff, that physicality shows up when he has the ball in his hands as well.

Here, against Colorado, he lines up in the slot, runs a short out, heads upfield and initiates contact with the defensive back.

In the games I watched, Huff never ran out of bounds. He finishes plays consistently and is always fighting for extra yardage.

"He plays receiver like an old running back," said Mike Mayock.

Here, Huff drags a Colorado defender 10 yards into the end zone:

As for versatility, Huff said he lined up in the slot on about 90 percent of his snaps last year. Given his skill set, I think that's where he'll be most effective in the NFL.

Jimmy Kempski over at Philly.com pointed out that Huff had at least one catch of 20+ yards in every game last year. And he was one of four wide receivers in the country to catch at least 60 balls (62), while averaging at least 18.0 yards per catch (18.39). Huff is really good at finding holes in zone coverage, and he did a lot of damage for Oregon running down the seam.

That's vintage Huff. Line up in the slot, get downfield, look back for the football, absorb the hit and come down with the catch.

While I don't see Huff lining up outside a lot in the NFL, he certainly had his moments out there:

Huff runs the deep dig against zone, finds a hole, breaks a tackle and picks up yards after the catch.

Again, you can move him around a little bit. Here, Huff takes the shovel pass, breaks a tackle and gets into the end zone:

There is a toughness to Huff's game. He does most of his damage in between the numbers, but showed the ability to get vertical. He also had eight red-zone touchdowns last year, tied for seventh in the nation.

Huff is a well-rounded player who is likely to have a situational role as a rookie. In 2015 and beyond, he could be this team's primary slot receiver. And Huff can contribute on special teams as well.

Some wide receivers taken after him may have more impressive measurables and greater upside, but it's clear to see why Huff was a player the Eagles targeted.

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  • Sconces

    did you guys do Matthews no-22 yet?

    • Jerry Pomroy

      They did that pre-draft.

  • phillyphanlvnv

    I keep telling folks Huff is our new Avant, except he WILL out-perform him. All those short catches that were very reliable will now start turning into 1st downs and possible TD’s. Dude is a magnet for the endzone, the exact opposite of Jacca$$, and will stretch the field from the slot, the opposite of Avant. Eagles will be in good hands fr years to come as long as Foles lives up to the absurd expectations he himself has set.

  • Stumpy Pepys

    He looks good, but my biggest conclusion from watching these cut-ups is that Texas and Colorado blow.

    • anon

      Yeah that’s why i don’t love pac-12 guys — that said, or main target, jarvis landry, was gone so eagles probably panicked.

  • cliff henny

    Sheil, you had me at the UCLA decleater

  • Sean

    I think he’s going to contribute on Special Teams right away… Not so sure about offense with the abundance of talented pass-catchers projected for the 53-man. Either way, he’s going to be fun to watch & maybe he can carve himself out a role by mid-to-late season.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I’m sure Chip will find ways to get him involved into the offense to see some snaps. Might not be a ton, but he’ll find ways to get him in. I don’t think Matthews will be locked into the slot. He may see the majority of his snaps there, but I can’t see him sitting too long in favor of Coop.

  • Fly High

    At first I did not like this pick, I thought there were better pure receivers on the board, and I thought they could have waited on him, but now reflecting, Huff is a tremendous blocker, might be best for his size in the NFL, and he can do the occasional running play, and the pick begins to make more sense. Also, I think from other quotes, that Roseman wanted to pick an OL in the 3rd, but all the ones he wanted disappeared before the Eagles picked, and so he went with Huff as the next best thing.

    • Richard Colton

      its true. It was a good draft at the top for OL – but it wasn’t deep. A lot of the 3rd round guys wound up in the 2nd.

      • Anebriated

        The same can be said for OLB. Something that is fairly common in the draft is that when a position is top heavy you start seeing the second/third round prospects being drafted in the late first/second instead because teams dont want to take the chance they will lose out on their guy. Saw it with the Safeties this year as well. Who thought Buchanan and Ward would go in the first? Are those FO’s getting bashed by their fan bases for reaching?

        • Richard Colton

          They should be – Ward was a bigger reach than Smith IMO. Four safties going in the first round was (along with Bortles at #3) the surprise of the draft.

          • Anebriated

            The 49ers took a safety first round last year as well(traded up for Eric Reid). Completely agree about the safety run being the biggest surprise and Ward being the bigger reach.

    • SOSUBTLE

      i wish we could have moved up a spot and taken Clinton-Dix but since we got a pretty good pass rusher and acquired an additional pick i was fine with the first round selection

  • Oli Richford

    He reminds me of Steve Smith a little bit.

  • mtn_green

    Love the 22s. Maybe once he new guys are done. We could get one each week on current eagles players. Maybe Wednesday to get me through the week? Thanks.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Hmm, sound like a plan. Well need something to get us through till TC.

      • cliff henny

        i foresee about 15 great camp battles,early lead for my favs, Wolff vs Allen and 3rd 4th RB. watched some clips of Fluellen, wait till people see this guy run, pad level might be touch high, but he can darn near cut like shady at 220. polk and Tucker better be ready for Joseph and DF

        • Harpy Eagle

          He reminds me more of Emmit Smith than Shady. Good patience in the hole, excellent vision, reads and sets up his blocks like a pro and while not fast he has great burst through the seam and can truck you once he’s moving.

        • Joe from Easton

          He doesn’t look like has that jump cut ability that shady has or the full speed, one foot in the ground without slowing “cutability” like shady, but who really does? He certainly has some good lateral ability for a man that size and the pad level will go down after some practice with chip or a good pop from an NFL caliber LB. He looks good.

          • Joe from Easton

            I agree with harpy Eagle… reminds me of Emmit.

          • cliff henny

            more for his size, he can really cut. maybe extreme example, just to get people excited for guy, he can play. had to pull up his weight mid tape, guy is 225. yeah, unfair to use shady and emmitt, guy is UDFA, but he’s got little wiggle and power. Polk does nothing for me, so i’d have Jo 3rd and Flu 4th already.

          • Joe from Easton

            Yea, I don’t mean to say he’ll be emmitt smith, haha. I just think the style is more emmitt than shady is all. He def looks like a hard runner. Only issue I see is he’s had some ankle, knee and mainly back issues. Running hard and upright only means more of the same, specifically back and knee. As a change of Pace for Shady though, I like what I see. I like Polk, I just think this guy can do what Polk does better than Polk does it.

          • cliff henny

            nope, you are on record, anything less that 17,500 yards, guys a bust!
            .
            watch Jospeh yet?

          • Joe from Easton

            Josey? Watching him now… please hold.

          • cliff henny

            the outlaw, yup, Josey Wales. the man can scoot

          • Joe from Easton

            Yea, a lot to like here.

            Love the story behind him also, probably has a heck of a chip on his shoulder.

            I like him as a project under Sproles. I say we stash him on the PS and beef him up under Huls for a year. I think he looks like a Sproles type weapon that can be good for 10-12 touches per game.

          • MediaMike

            Too risky. Stash him on the IR like you did with Kruger. Pay him rookie minimum and simply have him spend the year rehabbing, working out, and learning better Xs and Os.

          • Joe from Easton

            Good point…

            “We’re moving Henry to IR. Tweaked his knee pretty good when he slipped on a smoothie droplet in our hallway. We’re excited to see what he can bring to the organization when he’s fully healthy next year. Also, we fired Ed, the janitor.”

  • JAMIN67

    There were two things that jumped out to me as I watched highlights and some game tape on Huff. One was that the kid plays angry (for lack of a better term)…as in, he has this massive chip (no pun intended) on his shoulder and takes it out on the opposing team. Love that. The other is that he has GREAT hands. Watch any vid and you’ll see numerous catches he made where the ball was behind him, or too far in front…and he just made the catch look easy. And when he caught it in stride…look out…he was a beast. This kid should be a HUGE upgrade at returner and a nice option when we’re spelling some of the starters and in multiple WR sets.

    • Anebriated

      Agreed, watching Oregon games/tape from the past year he constantly stood out to me making catches that shouldn’t be made. I honestly thought he was a 6’4-6’5 receiver while watching him play. Cant wait to see him in midnight green.

    • anon

      You can see why Djax didn’t fit — and why self tacklin maclin may be gone next year.

      • Joe from Easton

        Kelly wants everyone on his team to play like the other team just did the horizontal hustle with their mom. This guy plays like that. I like it.

        • SOSUBTLE

          your completely on point with that lol

    • cliff henny

      like the fact that he can catch it at 5 on 3rd and 7, and he’ll get the other 3, no matter who’s inbetween. been begging for this type for years.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Those catches on throws behind him really stood out to me as well.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I still try to ask myself if Huff’s style of play & ability to line up in backfield is what Chip ‘wanted’ DeSean to be, but he just obviously wasn’t.

    • cliff henny

      yup. poor DC’s, pouring over ’13 Eagles’ films, and it’s all darn near worthless.

      • Anebriated

        When running at the speed Chip wants the offense to be at and the fact that anyone on the field can beat man coverage we could show the DC’s the exact play we are about to run and they will still have to pray that their players are able to execute their assignments to stop it. Will be exciting to watch, thats for sure. Who do they double team?

        • cliff henny

          cant wait for turbo speed offense this year. for all the NFL talking heads writing about speed of offense, have to wonder if they watched Oregon. Eagles only got into 3rd gear, and not often. wait till 5th gear shows up this year.

          • Anebriated

            Indeed, It seems that the officials are getting ready for it as well. This preseason they will be testing out using closed-circuit mics so they can speak with one another without having to huddle up and slow the game down. Have to imagine Chip’s offense is a big reason for that.

  • Ship Kelly

    These highlight shows some toughness and grit… i like that…

  • myeaglescantwin

    I was preaching that the eagles would draft the “best blocking WR” in the later rounds.
    It looks like they got a great one. I rarely see a WR take it to DBs. There are WR’s that block that basically just get in the way.. With Cooper, Maclin, Ertz, Celek, Huff, & Matthews we have a group of dudes that will light up opposing secondaries.

    I dig that.

    • myeaglescantwin

      look how he is always moving forward.. very Steve Smith’ish

      • myeaglescantwin

        ^ the good one btw

      • PaoliBulldog

        Also liked the Hines Ward comparison somebody else made. I love wideouts who like to dish out pain.

        • James Skip Carl

          That’s why we took him in the 3rd, the Steelers were gonna take him with their 3rd round compensation pick

  • eagle fan dwn south

    I really have the feeling they drafted him because they dont think maclin will be back because hes going to want to much money

    • Anebriated

      and in reality the Riley Cooper deal is only a 1 or 2 year contract as well.

      • cliff henny

        all of them are. if a free agent wants 3 or more, his last call should be to Howie

    • dnabrice

      I hope not. I think Maclin is a great talent, but we’ll see what happens. Decent WR can get massive pay days in FA.

    • Jamie

      It depends. Did Maclin insist on a one year deal because DJaccs was still here?
      That’s how I see it. Now that Jaccs is gone, I think Maclin will be easier to retain long term.

  • TNA

    Yeah, all those bubble screens that Djax ran out of bounds before contact? Not happening this year.

    • MediaMike

      Will the same deep threat respect-based cushion be there?

      • Anebriated

        This was one of the biggest reasons I enjoyed having desean on the team but looking back on the film it really wasn’t there last year. Teams still left the safety in the box to stop Shady(or at least try to) more often than not.

        • MediaMike

          I’ll need to see the production in the pass game meet last year in order to believe Jackson can so easily be shed from the roster. I was dead set against having Trash / Stinkston II (Maclin / Cooper) as our WR corps, so I’m very excited to see upgrades in Matthews and Huff ready to learn this year and make it happen in 2015.

          • Anebriated

            I agree. It is still too early but in Chip I trust. Though I dont like saying that we need to replace 82-1332-9. We need to do better than 310-4406-32. Do we really care where it comes from?

          • MediaMike

            I’m with you on that second set of numbers. It can be chopped up however you’d like, but I’m way more comfortable with Matthews and Huff in the mix. I don’t expect 62-1332-9- double team from any rookie, but I know 310-4406-32 wasn’t close to happening with “unnamed source” Maclin as the only addition to the WR corps.
            We need Foles up over 100 rating all year as well. 119 isn’t happening, but I don’t need to see a drop to Eli type numbers.

          • Anebriated

            100% agree. 27/2 is out of the question. If he does it again I’ll rent out his bust space in canton at the end of the year. All I ask is that he continues to be smart with the ball in his hands. One thing that is clear is Chip thinks that its not always about having the best players, its about having the right players.

          • MediaMike

            I’m just asking that Foles once again play like the best QB in the NFC not named Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers. I’d like another pro bowl berth coupled with some dominant numbers; but I’m not trying to put him in the big 4.

          • Anebriated

            As much as I wish for the same it scares me at the same time knowing the type of contract he would get after another season looking like one of the better QBs in the league.

          • MediaMike

            The trick with the deal with Foles is that you have to sign him before Wilson and Luck do their new deals. Foles should be immediately offered a 6 year / $100 million deal BEFORE guys start signing deals based on the new higher cap numbers. Luck and Wilson will have protracted negotiations, so you have to pay Foles first…………. or the price is going up.

          • Anebriated

            Very good point and I hope it works out that way. Still, I am a little gunshy about this approach as its the exact approach I used as a reason for doing the Ryan Howard deal when we did…

          • MediaMike

            They can very easily front load all of the guaranteed money for Foles as a roster bonus (they’ll be a ton under the 2015 cap after Cole, Maclin, Herremans, Cary, and DeMeco are all cut).

          • Anebriated

            While we have plenty of wiggle room right now next year’s cap is much tighter if we keep the roster as it is currently constructed. That wont happen so lets play the what if game. No way we are paying Cole the 11.6(3.2 dead $) he is due, Herremans is another 5.2(2.4 dead $). Graham is about 3.5(1.7 dead $). Demeco 6.8(no dead $). Sconces is 8.2(1.6 dead $). Ill have to dig a little deeper to see how much of that will turn into dead money but that is roughly 35 mil(approx 9 mil in dead money if we drop all of them) that we can open up with the cap increasing another 10 mil or so.

          • MediaMike

            They’re on paper for $123 next season. The cap will be at least $140. That is $17 million under. They will have about $15 million to roll into next year from unused money this year, so that goes to $32 million under. Cut Cole – net $8 mil ($40). Cut Cary Williams – net $7 mil ($47 mil). Cut Celek net $5 mil ($54). Cut Herremans net $3 mil ($57). Cut Meco net $7 mil ($64). I rounded up a tad on a few guys, so let’s go back down to a grand total of potentially $63 million in cap space for 2015. They won’t do all of those moves, but the money will be there to get several big deals done with most of the bonus coming as a 2015 roster bonus and the remaining guarantees being the salaries of 2015 and 2016. They’re in great shape vs. the cap.

          • Anebriated

            I forgot about the rolling average and the cap space that will be pushed forward. Good points. HOWIE(got it right this time) has done a great job of not painting the team into corners with contracts. Even Shady’s contract declines over the next three years.

          • NickS1

            Shady’s goes up about 4mil next season.

          • Anebriated

            Goes up this year then drops about 2m each season for the following two years.

          • oreofestar

            yeah lets say we even keep Celek and Meco and resign Jeremy and Ced for 7 and 4 mil a season I mean that is still over 40mil

          • NickS1

            Yeah, have a feeling Celek isn’t going anywhere, maybe not Cole either. Cole’s a restructure and probably kept for depth and to retire an Eagle, at least that’s my opinion. Same with Celek. Wouldn’t be shocked if Herremans retires here, too, also on a reworked deal. Two guys in their 30s who spent their careers here, and Celek, who is a CK favorite. Hard to see them all released without at least the attempt of keeping them here. I could be way off base here, but the flexibility releasing DJ gave us is huge. That and I think we may be rolling a couple more million over. The rookie salaries are mostly offsetting other bottom salaries and the extra is already accounted for I believe.

          • IG:blkboyflyy

            The NFL cap is suppose to inflate to about 135mil in 2015 & with the Eagles current space added they have plenty room.

          • Maggie

            Why? Are the replacements for Cole, Maclin, Herremans, Cary and DeMeco all going to play for free?

          • Hanibal Luis

            Meaning that the replacements, barring any high priced UFA signed, will most likely be on rookie deals thus saving money ;)

          • Weapon Y

            The Eagles drafted replacements for Cole, Cary, and Maclin, but not Todd or DeMeco. It would be smart to hang onto both of those guys at least until a competent successor is found.

          • NickS1

            You’re right, but Demeco is likely a restructure/extension to lower the cap hit, give him some guarantees, and keep him here for another 2-3yrs for D leadership.

          • Aussie Eagle

            I like to think that Nick is the kind of person that will not want top dollar. He just seems like such a good team player that he’ll want to do Chip and the Eagles a solid. And his dad sold their restaurants for $70M so that family is not struggling! Add to the salary all the endoresments that are coming his way if he does continue on a high level of play, and I think he can be had for 6yr 90M

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            “‘unnamed source’ Maclin.” I like you so much for this.

          • peteike

            I was a Desean fan but it will be impossible to compare, this seasons schedule will be tougher

          • robo40

            Big holes in Jackson’s game. Ignoring the locker room, he was still more fan friendly than coach friendly. There are plenty of top offenses that do well without a Jackson type threat. Little to no doubt that if they can, Chip will manage to get by. Watch and enjoy, next season is shaping up to be a good one.

          • poetx99

            i’m not the biggest maclin or cooper fan, but they are INFINITELY better than trash and stinkston. those two were hot garbage… drops, and bad routes, and no heart. they make self-tacklin look like anquan boldin.

      • UKEagle99

        Not quite as likely. Where was our 6-3, 212lb slot receiver last year? O will look different and I think that plays to our advantage. All their tape has DJax in it, well he’s a deadskin now.

  • Rick H

    Sheil excellent article blended in with very specific tape! On a side not I would not be surprised to see the Eagles line him up in the backfield (on rare occasions) and let him run it. He certainly is big enough and definitely a guy that really wants to block all the way to the whistle.
    When Shady needs a break it could be another receiver coming out of the backfield or staying into block. Quick swing passes to him much like Sproles type plays (no he is not Sproles). They could go 3 wide with a tight end and Huff,

  • NCBiRDMann22

    This guy looks to attack you. I love what he will bring to this team. I can see it now…There goes Huff plowing over the Cowgirls DB’s yet again. Him and Mathews are gonna be really fun to watch this year.

  • MediaMike

    I like the pick. Going WR in both the 2nd and 3rd will help make it possible to send “unnamed source” Maclin packing after the season is over.

  • JosephR2225

    Off topic, but I think you guys will like this. Remember when Gregg Easterbrook wrote this:

    “Let’s Pile on Chip Kelly While We Still Can: At the trade deadline, New England sent a fifth-round draft pick to Philadelphia for nose tackle Isaac Sopoaga and a sixth-round draft selection. Since in the 2014 draft, Philadelphia’s sixth choice is likely to be high while New England’s fifth is likely to be low, there is little difference between the selections, meaning Bill Belichick obtained Sopoaga for next to nothing.

    Why the Eagles, ranked last in defense, should be trading a defensive starter for next to nothing is anyone’s guess. Looks like neophyte Kelly got snookered by veteran Belichick.”

    Well, his new column says this (and it’s worth noting that the 5th round pick he’s referring to is the one they received from New England in the Sopoaga trade):

    “The Nesharim gave a fifth-round choice for Darren Sproles, who was expected to get the carries that last season went to Bryce Brown. Then Philadelphia got at least a fourth-round pick from Buffalo for Brown. Since Sproles is a better player than Brown, the series of transactions raises the question, Why didn’t Buffalo just trade for Sproles? The Bills may have wanted Brown’s rookie contract, which is a league-minimum agreement with two years remaining. Regardless, the deals show Kelly and his staff are catching on to how to get the best of other teams in trades.”

    • Anebriated

      Great post. Chip Kelly is stupid like a fox. It feels so homer-ish but I love almost every single move he has made since he came to town.

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    • cliff henny

      the layers of inaccuraccy in those streams of quotes is mindblowing.
      1.sop stinks, bag of flat balls was a steal
      2. taking heads freak about 1/4-1/2 rd reaches,so, it obviously matters some
      3.sproles wont get the carries
      4.sproles had some leverage in trade talks, he would never agree to go to Buff. bet huge money the extension was worked out b4 trade, cause it was announced like day later
      5. sure there;s more

      • Anebriated

        I think the post is less about the reality of the trades that could have been and more that Chip, while believed to be a novice in the intricacies of the NFL offseason, has proven that he can wheel and deal with the best. Hopefully it continues this way. The bottom line is we got Sop for nothing, turned a 6 into a 5 then that 5 into Sproles. We then took the guy Sproles knocked off the roster(who we got in the 7th) and turned that into a 4th(potentially a 3rd). By doing a little addition by subtraction we moved up in the draft twice.

        • cliff henny

          yeah, and that’s #5, cause that’s all Howie. sure Howie and Chip had a quick convo over Sop, but Chip had nothng to do with any of those trades, besides saying yes to getting rid of players and getting sproles. poor Howie,when he does something right, he’s staff.

          • Anebriated

            I suppose I sort of lump them together. They have a great working relationship and I truly believe that they both make it happen. Very often I will say Chip when speaking of the defense instead of Billy Davis. I just see a Head Coach who is able to make an impact in all facets of the team while still being willing and able to delegate and allow the people he put in place to do their jobs.

            FWIW, I like the work Howie has done and have not been one to bash him even during the Banner/Heckert days. The power structure was much different and there is a reason he stuck around.

    • dnabrice

      That’s great. I really like the Easterbrook column, but with the strong opinions he espouses, he’s certain to get more than a few wrong….hahaha

      • peteike

        easterbrook is the worst. Magary destroys him on deadspin and I savor every line its so funny

    • NickS1

      Easterbrook is a turd. Love that Howie/Chip went and proved him grossly wrong.

      • UKEagle99

        Amen

    • BleedGreenJames

      LMAO I’ll never forget that stupid word… ‘snookered’

    • Doug Ba

      Greggggggg Easterbrook is a haughty dipshit.

    • Armchairgm3

      this isn’t as bad as, but still reminds me of, the time when NFL Network hack Heath Evans said Chip Kelly would be the worst head coaching hire in NFL history. To make matters worse, I don’t think he ever retracted, apologized or admitted he was wrong.

  • MediaMike

    How do we feel about the following 53 man roster:
    K – Murder Leg (1)
    P – Donnie Jones (2)
    LS – Dorenbros (3)
    QB – Foles – Barkley – Sanchez (6)
    RB – Shady, Sproles, Polk, Tucker (10)
    WR – Matthews, Huff, Cooper, Benn, Maclin, Maehl (16)
    TE – Ertz, Celek, Casey (19)
    OL – Peters, Mathis, Kelce, Herremans, Johnson, Barbre, Kelly, Tobin, Bamiro, Molk (29)
    NT – Logan, Beau Allen (31)
    DE – Cox, Thorton, Hart, Kruger (35)
    OLB – Cole, Barwin, Smith, Graham (39)
    ILB – Ryans, Kendricks, Acho, Knott (43)
    CB – Williams, Fletcher, Boykins, Watkins, Carroll (48)
    S – Jenkins, Wolff, Allen, Maragos, Reynolds. (53)

    • JosephR2225

      No Vinny Curry? He’s an odd fit but I think they like him for passing downs.

      • MediaMike

        I don’t have room for Curry with Kruger ready to dominate! And Hart isn’t getting cut. Curry could be traded to Atlanta (totally lacking pass rush and a 4-3 team) for a 5th or 6th.

        • cliff henny

          think eagles only carried 4 corners, and used extra DL. telling you, practice squad is going to be a battle

          • Anebriated

            Im guessing that was more because we had nobody else worthy of being a NFL CB. Wouldnt be surprised if we had 5 this year, especially as we picked up a bunch of DBs who can play both CB and S. Id guess we keep 10 between the 2 positions. At the very least they have good value on STs.

          • MediaMike

            That is why Carroll and Maragos are on this roster.

          • Anebriated

            correct. Chip sees incredible value in having a good Special Teams unit and is willing to keep players around for that reason as evidenced by those two signings. Dont forget about Braman too.

          • Warhound

            I see only nine DBs and nine LBers. The CB/S hybrids make it more likely that they carry less DBs. I see seven on the DL and only nine on the OL. Time will tell. :)

          • Anebriated

            While I tend to agree with you I look at the players we have and there arent many who should go from the secondary. I could see us going with 9 and dropping Allen from the mix. Other than that its rookies(Watkins, Reynolds) holdovers they like(Wolff and Boykin) and the rest of the list are guys they brought in for specific roles(Williams, Fletcher, Carroll, Jenkins, Maragos).

          • Warhound

            Yeah, I see your point. With eight OL (what they carried last year) they could carry seven on the DL, nine ‘backers and 10 DBs (with everything else as you listed it).

        • IG:blkboyflyy

          Atlanta is a 3-4 hybrid team they’re looking for similar pieces to the Eagles.

        • Warhound

          Curry in, an OL out. Maybe?

          • oreofestar

            drop 2 OL create a spot for Curry and another ILB or Long

        • Warhound

          Sure you do…drop an OL.

    • cliff henny

      nice! couple tweeks, but only cause you got ball rolling
      wont carry 10 o-line. think it was 8 last yr. extra TE (inside track Annen) and LB (graham is gone one way or another, add Long and Fletcher). tucker and/or Polk will get beat out by Joseph or Fluellen (wouldnt blink at both).

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I finally took a look at Josey & Fluellen. I can see Fluellen challenging for a spot, but Josey looks like a guy that will get engulfed in NFL, as he needs space to be effective and utilize his speed. Although he doesn’t play as fast as his 4.4/40. Fluellen shows flashes & when he does I like his stuff. Can dig inside and grind or shows very good lateral cutting ability. I’ll agree that he runs a bit tall inside & would be more effective if he dropped his pad height running up the gut.

        • Fly High

          I think the Niners drop LMJ, and he signs with the Eagles and has a good shot at the #3 RB.

        • cliff henny

          Josey’s in right offense to get the space. can see shady sproles tucker than loser of 4th battle b/t Josey and Fluellen getting PS’d.

    • Token

      Pass rush looks horrible still before we see what Smith has. Im interested in CB. They bring Carroll in, and I dont think hes just a throw away guy. Unless he just looks terrible hes not a #5 corner. Hes been a top 3 corner. There doesnt appear to be room for him unless they could be looking at June 1st cutting Cary Williams. Id be all for that move.

      Cut Vinny? I know its not a perfect “fit”. But just dropping a guy with that burst off the line sucks.

      I hope Logan got stronger and a little bigger. It could get ugly if not.

      ILB looks like a weak spot. Goode will be here certainly. Ryans will probably take another step down. They are really praying Kendricks can finally show up. Cuz those ILBs playing behind a Logan doesnt make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

      • MediaMike

        I don’t disagree with anything you’re really saying, but 53 is going to be very tough to predict. And don’t take my order as the depth chart; I know Carroll isn’t really a “5”

    • Daniel Spector

      What about Goode?

      • MediaMike

        Got to get down to 53 some how.

        • Jernst

          Goode >>>> Acho and/or Knott

          • Jernst

            And Curry will not be cut. Otherwise, right on

          • MediaMike

            I project Curry to be traded to a 4-3 team for a later round pick. He doesn’t work in a 3-4.

          • NickS1

            Man if it’s only a late rounder for him that’ll be disappointing. You’re likely right, but the kid is a stud.

    • NickS1

      June 1st Graham or trade him for a 2015 7th rounder for all I care, plug in Braman, who can at least contribute on special teams. Curious to see where Kruger is, and if it won’t be Curry instead while putting Kruger on PS another year, never know. If not, have to get something for Curry. Or, cut out two lineman, keep Curry and add in Annen. Knott is suspended for four games, so I’d slot Goode in there, or Goode in over Acho. Like what you did, though. So tough to project with all the camp battles going on and the ability to keep guys on PS another year while some of the old timers make their way out after the season. There’s so many more possibilities, I was just spit-ballin.

      • MediaMike

        Kruger is 100% gone if you P-squad him this year. His body filled out well and he’s absolutely going to kill it this year.

        • NickS1

          Forgot about that. Good call. Have to get something for Curry, then.

        • All In Eagles

          I hope you’re right. All signs are pointing to this being true and I’m praying for it. He may be a true beast in the making.

      • cliff henny

        forgot about Braman. it’s not the ’75 steelers, but much better roster than 18 months ago

        • NickS1

          Absolutely.

          • cliff henny

            have to ammend, still need to reduce O-line to 8, only 3TEs is probably right (Annen can be PS’d easy enough), add Curry and Braman, ax Graham add Long. Acho, Goode and Knott fight it out for last spot.

          • NickS1

            Was also thinking that a DB spot can be reduced due to the ability of a couple guys to play CB n S. Can add extra player that way. PS Reynolds, probably.

    • Joe from Easton

      Hold. The. Phone. Where the hell is Casey Matthews?!

      • MediaMike

        Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    • Richard Colton

      First time I saw your roster, I wondered why you wanted to change random player’s numbers

    • SOSUBTLE

      Really??? Murder Leg?? Im hearing this guy wasn’t all that accurate in college soo will the pros be different

      • oreofestar

        any excuse to keep Henery off the roster

      • Richard Colton

        He’s the flavor of the week
        A) Not Alex Henery
        B) Hasn’t missed a single important kick in Philly yet (its true, google certified)
        C) Kicks like Aaron Rowand plays centerfield
        D) Most importantly, he’s not Alex Henery
        I’m holding out for a Norwegian

        • SOSUBTLE

          hahaha those are some really good points my friend wish we could find the next David Akers somewhere

          • NickS1

            Should’ve kept the original

        • Neanderthal

          Ha. Love it

    • dj1991

      I would say Molk, Reynolds, Hart to the PS
      Curry, Braman, Travis Long in
      nd keep BG, mabe he will have a breakout year (hope so)

    • mtn_green

      Hard to know how a college kicker will do on nfl. They don’t kick many long ones.

    • 4for4phillyphan

      Bryan Braman?

    • Neanderthal

      If we keep (james)Casey and (jordan)Matthews can we please get rid of HIM

      • Anebriated

        Well played.

    • ryyndynyyls

      I’m guessing Fluellen or Outlaw Josey beats out tucker for RB roster spot 4. Hoping, anyway. Not that I’m mad at Tucker, but those two seem to have a heap of upside and the underdog thing going for them. Either way, can’t wait to see what that 3rd/4th we got for Bryce ends up being. No shade to Brown (and I liked him a lot in Andy’s offense), but he wasn’t working out under Chip.

    • daggolden

      Bryan Braman will be on the roster. He is a ST ace with a lot of attitude. Vinny Curry isn’t going anywhere either he was your best pass rusher from the dline last year. Guys like Hart and Reynolds will be on PS. Other than that I like your list.

    • http://batman-news.com thedude009

      IMO, Braman, Phillips, Goode, Brad Smith, and Curry all make the team.

  • Finlay Jones

    how many times is he gonna be called for crack backblock this season? I go for 3

    • IG:blkboyflyy

      He seems to block pretty cleanly, initial contact & drive. Doesn’t reset/grab. Even on reverses.

    • Harpy Eagle

      I’ll go with 0. Watch that 2nd clip again. He stops and waits for the defender to turn around and then de-cleats him

      • mtn_green

        Yup love it. He is standing around twiddling his thumbs, Safety turns around and BAM.

    • peteike

      I can already hear the Hines Ward comparison come game day when he levels someone. Penalties schmenalties

  • IG:blkboyflyy

    Huff got signed to. 4 year deal he’s going to play ASAP

  • NickS1

    Huff already agreed to 4yr deal.

  • DEaglesWay

    The more I see of him, the more I think he’ll become an improved version of Avant

    • MediaMike

      WAY better simply due to playing in a far superior college program. Nothing quite so overrated as the Michigan Wolverines.

      • Brandon Boykin, LOL

        Oh c’mon now you can’t say that. By that logic, AJ McCarron was the best QB in the draft.

        • NickS1

          According to McCarron, he was.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            At one point I had the clip where Barrett (Garrett?) Jones pushed him in the national championship game recorded.

            Only because I hate AJ McCarron.

          • NickS1

            Barrett… I actually don’t hate him. Did he get drafted?

  • MediaMike

    Can we all agree that the one roster battle that CANNOT come out the wrong way is Murder Leg making this team over Henery? There is no way I can stomach another year of the worst kickoff leg in the NFL and choking away playoff wins vs. teams that have never won a road playoff game.

    • Neanderthal

      Murderleg, the dutch youtube wonder Pele. Anyone but Alex Shortkick

  • IG:blkboyflyy

    So does he play day one? Seeing as he was important enough to be signed first long-term.

    • MediaMike

      50/50. Depends on how well he can contribute on special teams. vs. Maehl.

      • IG:blkboyflyy

        I believe Maehl was just one of the first Oregon players he could get his hands on after coming to the NFL to help jump start his culture change. I think he goes eventually

    • cliff henny

      it’s all slotted contracts, pretty much signing whatever Howie puts infront of him. he just was excited and got to Philly first

      • IAteLunchToday

        Yeah, but I think the some guys hold out for things like no offset clauses and stuff. I’m sure he’s stoked.

      • IG:blkboyflyy

        Okay that’s part of it, I agree but, wouldn’t slotted contracts apply to everyone? He signed first that should shed some insight into how set on getting Huff they actually were.

      • mtn_green

        My understanding is that with new CBA players out if the first round don’t have much leeway.

        • cliff henny

          even 1sts, it’s just up to teams how they want contracts to look. only thing to argue over is how much is signing bonus and making 4th year have offset language if player doesnt panout

  • Jernst

    You win games with tough consistent players like Hines Ward.

    • NickS1

      One could even say you win Super Bowls with tought consistent players like Hines Ward.

  • eaglefansocal

    This offense is going to be way better by being way more consistent and deadly in the red zone. The better consistency and improved red zone will be due to Jackson being replaced by Maclin, Sproles, Matthews, and Huff! Think about it.

    • MediaMike

      It would be even better if the group was Jackson, Sproles, Matthews, and Huff.

      • DSY

        Maclin is a better red zone reciever than Jackson! Do your hw buddy!

  • botto

    with huff and sproles i see a lot of first downs coming

  • Neanderthal

    Wow. Deal done already.
    Huff gonna be upgrade from avant. Love Matthews attitude too. Like his ” nobody ever caught me from behind quote”.
    Something Micheal Sams cant say.

    • oreofestar

      damn…too easy

      • Neanderthal

        I know . I know. Couldnt resist. Commentators are gonna have to be careful how the describe his play.

        • oreofestar

          I know the jokes keep coming about filling holes on the Rams roster and solidifying the Ram’s D it is hard to resist I understand

          • Neanderthal

            “He creamed that guy”.
            Ew.

          • mtn_green

            You might want to edit your comments. Michael Sam can’t adopt or marry in St Louis or have his partner receive death benefits.

          • Warhound

            What does that have to do with jokes on this message board?

          • mtn_green

            Tell me a racist joke, what’s the difference.

          • Warhound

            1) My question was what do their jokes have to do with the laws in Missouri? So tell me – how are their jokes restricting the rights of homosexuals in St Louis?
            2) Why do Scotsmen wear kilts? Because sheep will hear a zipper from a mile away.

          • Neanderthal

            He didn’t mean that kind of racist joke. He meant one we are not allowed to laugh at

          • jesse

            What do you call a black women who had 5 abortions? A crime fighter….. its a joke relax man everything so pc is ridicules..And I am not a racist my wife does black guys lol is all joking so please save the PC rhetoric

          • jesse

            What do you call a black women who had 5 abortions?
            A crime fighter….. its a joke relax man everything so pc is ridicules..
            And I am not a racist my wife does black guys lol is all joking so please save the PC rhetoric

          • Neanderthal

            I could call you a liberal PC cop, and tell you to go hug a tree, but since the good book says blessed is the peace makers , I edited my comments

    • PaoliBulldog

      Too early, too early.

  • TNA

    From these and other clips, the RB playing WR description is apt. Which is interesting because the Eagles have a WR playing RB in Darren “Welker” Sproles. I think another reason getting Huff and another smart tough receiver in Matthews makes total sense is because there is a ton of responsibility and decision making given to the slot receiver(s). These guys don’t mind playing in traffic and given the countless number of mesh concepts Sheil and Tim have pointed out last season, the Eagles need willing and very capable slots. I can’t wait to see this offense. So long as the guys stay healthy this could be a very fun season to watch.
    On defense, hopefully they’ve added some speed and talent that can allow them to collectively shut down the intermediate/short stuff they were essentially giving to opponents. That way they can play less of a gimmicky bend-and-wait-for-mistake defense and more of a defense that dictates play.

  • Tom Kazansky

    I think that Huff is gonna work out really well for us so ultimately I’m fine with this pick but not thrilled with the process, as Sheil mentioned in another article.

    I mean, every pick doesn’t have to be the result of some robotic, intellectually honest, BPA process, but don’t tell us Huff was “the top guy on our board” when not only did we promise the kid we’d draft him but also told him it would happen in the 3rd round.

    That said, I’m fired up to see him in Eagle green.

  • ryyndynyyls

    Side note: who peeped Huff trucking Barr on a block or two in the UCLA game? I was bummed on this pick at first, but I’m slowly starting to see the forest for the trees.

  • greensoul

    Really like Eagles’ WR picks. Both Matthews and Huff seem to be tough and fearless. Can’t have enough of that type of player.

    • UncleCarm

      I bet he doesn’t self tackle even one time. That will be refreshing.

  • livingonapear

    I’ll admit, I still wish we had taken Moncrief, but clearly this is their guy. The last two drafts have paid off greatly in both the big difference makers (Lane, Kendricks, Ertz, Cox) and the role players (Boykin, Curry, and even Brown at times) that I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

  • NickS1

    Watching more of this tape, it’s almost a shame this kid has people in front of him. Some of his game reminds me of watching Keenan Allen last year in his knack to find the hold in zone coverage at such a young point in his career. Welcome Huff.

  • BostonianEagle

    This is going to hurt to swallow, but he reminds me a lot like a Victor Cruz and Miles Austin. Neither Cruz or Austin will blaze the trails, but they both do much of their damage in the middle of the field, though Cruz can also play outside. Best comparison that I could make.

    • Septhinox

      A Vitor Cruz – Hines Ward mesh…

  • MattE

    Been seeing comparisons to Hines Ward. I can live with that.

    • Rage114

      I was just going to write this. Ward is 5′-11.5″ and 200 lb. Huff is 5′-11″ and 205 lbs. Ward had a 4.55 forty vs 4.51 for Huff. Huff had a slightly better broad and vertical jump as well. No bench press stat for Ward. These two are very close to the same player in both size and athletic ability.

      • MattE

        Read about his upbringing, feel for the kid. Hope it fuels that fire (reason I liked Marquise Lee).

  • TNA

    The impressive thing about the UCLA video clip above was that he followed and waited until the defender turned and faced him before knocking him on his backside. A less disciplined player would have pushed from behind and received a flag.

  • GMaddox

    Totally underwhelming. Let’s hope he has more in the tank than these clips indicate. By the way UT and CU are terrible teams, especially on defense. Caveat emptor.