Eagles Pick-By-Pick Draft Review

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It was a chaotic three days at the NovaCare Complex. In the end, the Eagles made four trades and ended up with seven new players (not counting undrafted free agents).

Below is a pick-by-pick review, along with links you might have missed and projections for how each guy fits.


Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville (6-3, 251)
Round 1, Pick 26

How he fits: Smith had 14.5 sacks last year, but his most attractive trait is his versatility. In Charlie Strong's scheme, he was asked to rush the passer, set the edge against the run and drop back into coverage. Expect Smith to compete for playing time right away as part of a rotation with Connor Barwin and Trent Cole.

Overall thoughts: I've criticized the Eagles for plenty this offseason, but I have no issue with the Smith pick. The six players they targeted at No. 22 went off the board. They thought about trading up, but ultimately decided giving up later picks wasn't worth it. So instead, they moved back, added an extra pick and drafted a player they targeted. If there was an obvious pick at No. 26 that the Eagles missed out on, I'm not seeing it. Was the pick a bit of a reach? Maybe. But a team like the Redskins might have very well taken Smith soon after he went off the board.

What you missed:

"I think he has a huge upside," said Chip Kelly.
Why the Eagles passed on Johnny Manziel and Marqise Lee.
T-Mac's thoughts on the Smith pick.
Mike Mayock, Mel Kiper Jr. and others on Smith.
Howie Roseman defends the Smith pick, clarifies the process.
Smith explains how he had to become a more violent player when switching from offense to defense.
No-22 breakdown of what Smith brings to the table.

Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (6-3, 212)
Round 2, Pick 42

How he fits: Kelly revealed that the Eagles want Matthews to come in and immediately play the slot. He ran a 4.46 at the combine and finished his career as the SEC's leader in catches and receiving yards. Matthews watched four Eagles games on film before his official visit to Philadelphia. When he arrived, he had notes and questions for the coaches. The Eagles believe he'll have a size advantage against slot corners and like the way he makes contested catches against man coverage.

Overall thoughts: I was surprised the Eagles traded up in the second round to get Matthews, considering how deep the draft was at wide receiver. But Kelly explained that the team had targeted Marqise Lee and Matthews in the second round. If you're wondering how they had the top-tier of WRs ranked, here's an educated guess: Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., Brandin Cooks, Marqise Lee and Matthews. Teams likely differed in the way they had those guys ranked. In the end, the Eagles decided Matthews was in another class from the wide receivers taken after him.

What you missed:

"He can catch the ball in traffic," said Kelly.
No-22 breakdown of why Matthews is a fit.
What Mayock, Kiper and others said about Matthews.

Josh Huff, WR, Oregon (5-11, 206)
Round 3
, Pick 86

How he fits: Huff can be penciled in to the No. 4 WR spot for now, although the Eagles may want to rotate their pass-catchers more in 2013, which could mean some immediate playing time. He said he played 90 percent of his snaps last year in the slot, but the Eagles believe he can be effective on the outside as well. Huff is considered a physical player who can also contribute right away on special teams.

Overall thoughts: I like Huff as a player, but it's fair to question whether the Eagles pulled the trigger too early on this one. Of all the picks, this seemed like the one where the decision-makers said: "We want that player and are not willing to risk losing out on him even if it means taking him early." Huff very well might have slipped to the fourth round, but given Kelly's history with him, the Eagles weren't willing to chance it. I'm not sure about the process, but I like Huff as a player.

What you missed:

Huff said the Eagles told him they were going to draft him.
What they're saying about Huff.

Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida (5-11, 194)
Round 4, Pick 101

How he fits: Watkins projects as either a corner or a safety. He played both last year for the Gators. But Roseman said the Eagles will start him out at cornerback. Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher are still expected to start, but Watkins could push them. He ran 4.41 at the combine, and that was with an ankle injury. Watkins believes he would have clocked the fastest time had he been healthy. He could be a sub-package player as a rookie. Watkins has the ability to play inside, outside or at safety.

Overall thoughts: This was probably my favorite pick. In some ways, it reminds me of the Brandon Boykin selection back in 2012. Watkins is a fantastic athlete. I'm not sure exactly what his role will be right away, but Watkins' upside and versatility is appealing.

What you missed:

Kelly said the Eagles loved Watkins' football IQ.

Taylor Hart, DL, Oregon (6-6, 281)
Round 5, Pick 141

How he fits: This pick seemed destined to happen. Not a lot of teams run a two-gap 3-4, so identifying linemen who fit what the Eagles want to do is not difficult. The Eagles like to rotate their defensive linemen. Hart will back up Cedric Thornton and Fletcher Cox. Kelly said his strength is playing the run.

Overall thoughts: The Eagles thought about taking Hart in the fourth, but Roseman promised Kelly that he'd still be there in the fifth, and he was right. This isn't a splashy pick, but Hart should contribute right away, and given his familiarity with defensive line coach Jerry Azzinaro, there's no question about scheme fit.

What you missed:

"We're putting the family back together."

Ed Reynolds, Safety, Stanford (6-1, 207)
Round 5, Pick 162

How he fits: Malcolm Jenkins has one starting safety spot locked down, but the other one is up for grabs. Reynolds will compete with Earl Wolff and Nate Allen. Kelly raved about Wolff, but Reynolds has a chance to make some noise as a rookie. He has experience playing deep, in the box and covering man to man.

Overall thoughts: I'll be honest here. Reynolds is a player I have to do more homework on. Going into the draft, though, I thought they needed to focus on the defense. And Reynolds was one of five picks on that side of the ball. He ran a 4.57 at the combine, but won't be able to participate in all of the Eagles' spring practices because of NCAA rules.

What you missed:

Reynolds has been to the NovaCare Complex before to watch Eagles practice.

Beau Allen, NT, Wisconsin (6-2, 333)
Round 7, Pick 244

How he fits: The Eagles used their final pick on a big-bodied, run-stuffing nose tackle. Azzinaro recruited Allen coming out of high school. He'll compete immediately with Damion Square for the backup job behind Bennie Logan.

Overall thoughts: It would be tough for me to have too much of an issue with a seventh-round pick. I thought the Eagles might want to add an inside linebacker or an offensive lineman, but they didn't see any that they liked. Square did not establish himself as a rookie, so Allen has a legitimate chance of making the team. That competition will play out this summer.

What you missed:

Allen is said to "squat a small house."

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  • jmkrav

    If they had taken Watkins in the 3rd and Huff in the 4th would anyone be complaining that they reached for Kelly’s favorites?

    They went up and got a guy with personal traits they love and enough physical traits to be at least as good as Jason Avant. I have no problem with Huff.

    Then Watkins, who is like a faster Honey Badger (without the TO in college). Fast and strong and hungry. Love that pick.

    Overall really happy!

    • Nick M

      Great point. Same with with if they took Mathews in the first and Smith in the second, Watkins in the third and Huff in the 4th. Everyone would be saying how great of a draft it is.

      • Richard Colton

        Don’t you think Matthews would have been a reach in the 1st?

    • Richard Colton

      Funny you say that, because Comcast is reporting that Howie let it slip that Chip wanted to draft Watkins in the 3rd. Howie talked him into waiting until the 4th. Huff to me was the biggest reach – sounds like Sheil thinks it was Huff. Diddinger is saying Smith. We’ll see.

      • anon

        guess good thing is chip is high on players, probably overrates intangibles relative to nfl teams.

        • Richard Colton

          yeah. Chip and Howie are an interesting dynamic. Howie was the voice of reason trying to get Chip to stick to the board. I imagine Chip pacing the room muttering “more size, more football intelligence, more Pac12, LETS PICK THE GUY NOW”

          • Average__Joseph

            Great image of him pacing and muttering; can’t you just see him walking around mumbling to himself and Howie saying “sit down and relax Chip.”

          • DoctorRick

            Hard for Chip to break that “tempo” habit. If it was up to him he would pick a player every 21 seconds.

          • BrettConnolly

            “I care very, very much who we do get.”

    • Sum

      Very good point, I thought the same for Matthews and Smith. Matthews has a first round WR grade in every draft in the past 20 years except for this one. He was in several mock drafts as a first rounder. Smith was seen as a second rounder by most scouts.

      Had we picked Matthews 26 there wouldn’t be an argument you could make against the pick. We liked the bigger, faster, more productive player (over Lee).

  • Engwrite

    I don’t think people understand the best player available approach. Manziel was probably the best available at #22 but so what? They didn’t want or need a qb. Period. Take it to the extreme: what if at each point in the draft the BPA is a qb? Will they pick 7 qbs?
    Similarly you have to consider value. Maybe Ford was a shade better than Marcus Smith but by trading down four spots they still had a possible shot at Ford and if not him, Smith PLUS a third rounder. I would make that move everytime.
    Whether Marcus Smith works out or not no one knows but the strategy made sense. As to passing on a receiver, their picks indicate they wanted/needed defensive players and above all a top defensive player.

    • Richard Colton

      QB is a position all to itself – doesn’t belong in the BPA conversation. It’s the only position that can:
      1) Sit on the bench, not play, and increase trade value
      2) reasonably expect 10+ years of play
      3) Only play one at a time
      4) special rules to protect health
      5) will justify a draft reach – if you don’t have one, its your only need
      Try to justify your point without using QB. Gets harder, doesn’t it?

      • engwrite

        I see. It doesn’t work with qbs. But a team would draft 7 RBs, or 7 DEs, or 7 DBs, or…as long as they are the best BPA. Always glad to learn.

        • Richard Colton

          The draft I always point to as an example is the 2002 draft. Eagles used a tiered BPA method. Even though secondary was a position of strength (Dawkins, Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent) they went DB, DB, DB with the first three picks. For my $$$, it’s still the best Eagles draft of the modern era and directly led to the 2004 Superbowl.

          I honestly thought, because of last year, we were heading in that direction. Maybe we still are. I’m pretty sure, based on what I saw this weekend, that their philosophy has evolved.

          • Engwrite

            I think we are close on this. This year they had a defensive bias while last year they had an offensive bias (including a shot at qb, which they saw as a potential need, when they saw Barkley was available.)
            So BPA gets tilted by need, unless some unusual value pops up, like Maclin a few years ago.
            My guess is that this year they could have gone for a wideout first, from among a very select group, or a defensive player from among a group of Linebackers and Safeties.

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll agree. They said they had a list of 6 guys they thought might fall – none of them did, so they traded back. We know Lee and Manziel weren’t on that list of 6. I’m thinking two of those guys were ILB Mosely and OT/G Martin. If that’s correct – it salvages some of their BPA cred. Howie will never tell

          • livingonapear

            Secondary was a position of strength that year, but one that was advancing in years. Secondary would have been a concern within 1-2 years. If next year is a strong o – line year I wouldn’t be surprised to see us take a few there.

            point being, bpa is still a fluid concept. If your drafting based on need, then position is 75% of your consideration; with bpa you go 75% on talent but use need and the depth of the position as tie breakers to fill out the other 25%.

          • Richard Colton

            yeah – I know those percentages are arbitrary, but I agree. Like I’ve said (and they’ve said) its tiered. Toss QB out (different animal all together). What position on the Eagles is so stocked with 22-26 y/o playmakers that we can take it off the draft board for round 1-3 consideration? If we’re lucky – next year it will be WR (Cooper and the Killer J’s) S (Wolff & Reynolds?) or D-line (plenty of breakout candidates). This year – nothing.

            Honestly – If the draft had fallen right this year, and we could have grabbed Martin in the 1st and Bitonio in the 3rd? I would have been fine with it.

    • JofreyRice

      BPA is baloney. You gotta have 11 guys to field a team. Once again, Ozzie Newsome shows you. The guy loses Ed Reed, Ray Lewis Dannell Ellerbe & Arthur Jones in 2 offseasons and drafts Matt Elam (S, 1st Round), Arthur Brown (ILB, 2nd Round), CJ Mosely (ILB, 1st round) and Timmy Jerningan (DE/DT 2nd round). Certain guys make your scheme go. If you don’t have players at those positions, it doesn’t work.

      The thing is, if you’re going to reach a little, like the Eagles did here, you gotta make sure the evaluation piece is correct. If you have to reach multiple rounds, and in addition to that, screw up the Eval–turns out Jarrett wasn’t even a 4th or 5th round safety–you’re just doomed to failure. Say Smith doesn’t turn out to be a “1st round OLB”. As long as he’s a mediocre to solid defender–like Barwin–I don’t think it will be as big of an issue.

  • Rambler

    Youth and talent added to both sides of the ball. Don’t care where the players were drafted. A little surprised no inside LB was picked, but otherwise I am pretty happy with what they got.

    • jmkrav

      I think we could see Barwin as an ILB in a few years. He will slow down a little, but still have size strength and leadership to replace Meco IMO

  • TNA

    Nice recap Sheil. The draft process is so murky. And it gets murkier when you consider the Eagles’ process. But what is clear is that Kelly is putting his stamp on the team. A player like Huff may not have 3rd round value to other teams, but for the Eagles, he could play a critical role by being one of the best blocking WRs who understands the intricacies and concepts of the CK system.
    The debate to me is whether versatility is better than being the master of none for some of these players. The scouting staff clearly did a lot of homework in figuring out if NFL defenses can exploit or know what packages or defenses the Eagles are in based on what players are on the field.
    But the bottom line is that the Eagles improved THEIR team as best as they possibly could.
    They already had OL depth but may need to address that next year.
    Their DL is young but a little thin. Hopefully Kruger can become a beast.
    God forbid if Barwin or DeMeco go down with injuries.
    The competition in the secondary should significantly improve overall defensive performance from two years ago and even the latter part of last season. I see a lot more coverage sacks coming from the defensive side. Don’t forget the Eagles added Carroll and Marangi, two guys that add to the competition.
    All in all, these picks make a lot of sense and hopefully a handful them will turn out well.
    The Falcons need a TE, so I imagine they’re going after Lyeria. But at the right price, I’d like to see them bring him in as well.

    • John E. Zang

      Highly doubt the Lyerla thing. Read up on him he’s a real bad seed. You can’t fix a tool bag and I’d be surprised if Chip brought him in as it’s the opposite of what he’s trying to build.

    • Peteike

      First non homer post here. Love the enthusiasm but we shall see in a few yrs. Also comparing to Reid a bit much, regardless of athleticism/measurables they can either ball or not

      • Jerry Pomroy

        For the record, I am far from a homer. I love my team but am also critical.

        I actually studied long and hard on at least 4 of our 7 draftees and coveted them long before we actually selected them. Look back at least to February and you’ll see that I was very high on Marcus Smith & Matthews. Also liked Huff and Hart, but very hard to figure whether those guys would be there once you get beyond the 2nd rd. Said all along that Smith would not be there by 54, no way, no how and believed he was very early second. Also didn’t think that we had too much of a shot at Matthews at 54, so I expanded my WR wish list to include ARob & Latimer, but Matthews was my personal favorite. Reminded me a lot of TO. I absolutely wanted Smith though as I saw him as the most complete & natural OLB outside of Mack. Smith was my favorite player in the draft.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Yeah, unbelievable recap, thank you.
    This is a summary if I’ve ever seen one, testament to why Birds 24/7 is my first and only stop for eagles info. Forever grateful for you two’s free services

  • Will

    Thanks to Sheil and Tim for all the time and effort to keep this the best site for up to date info on the Eagles. Great job guys….

    • Harry

      Best site?….no way……………they do not even have the undrafted free agent signings by the Eagles. Every other “GOOD” site has this, so it’s pathetic Sheil and Tim do not have this information available here.

  • TNA

    I also appreciate the Eagles valuing the mental aspect of this game. A $100 body is worth only $50 if it comes along with a selfish 10 cent brain and approach. On the flip side, a player with a $50 body may be worth a lot more than $100 if they’ve got a $100 mind and are 100% available on every single play.
    Obviously you have to hand it to the scouts. And CK saying that his visits on Pro Days are worthless is a bunch of crock. Clearly, he wants to interact with these players to see if they’re as obsessed with football as he is. Why else would he be asking the cafeteria guys what these players are eating and how they behave in the lunch room?
    At this point, all fans can really do is see these guys on the field and see how the overall team does.
    Fly Eagles Fly!

  • kleptolia

    It’s kind of funny, as an Oregon fan I can completely understand the concern with the picks of Huff and Hart. These are guys who nobody was talking about pre-draft. Huff is not the ideal height. Hart had only a few sacks this past season. These are not guys who were standouts in the college football world.
    However, having seen them play, I can say that they both have a chance to make the team.
    Hart was a guy that was used to hold the line. He didn’t have a great deal of sacks, but he filled holes, altering running routes. His long frame helped him to grab running backs and either slow them up or bring them down altogether. He used good technique, as far as my amateur eyes could tell. Also, I think that he will be glad to have Azzinaro as a coach again. After Azz left, the entire Oregon defensive line seemed to go through an adjustment period. Maybe the new guy isn’t as good at yelling as Azzinaro.
    Huff went through injuries his junior season. His sophomore season was great, but when he disappeared his junior year, so did the hype. He came back for his senior season and played very well. Everybody seems caught up in his 4.5 combine time, but I think he’s faster than that. He ran a 4.46 at the pro day. Even then, we’re talking about a difference of .004-.005 seconds. I don’t get why everybody freaks out about 4.5, but settles down when they see high 4.4. Whatever. Huff can catch. He can block. He needs to concentrate on the easy passes. He runs like a running back on screens.
    Huff won’t make you forget about Desean, but he just might help you enjoy a few games. I think Chip really wanted him because of his willingness and capability to play special teams.
    Remember, there are three ways to make a Chip Kelly football team: special teams, special teams, and special teams.

    • kleptolia

      .04 to .05 seconds on the speed time measurements. Sorry, I’m not good at decimals. Stay in school, kids!

      • ztom6

        Guys always run faster times at their pro day because it’s hand-timed. The benefit of the combine is everyone runs on the same surface, the exact same distance, with very accurate electronic timing. It’s been well-documented that combine 40 times aren’t as fast as they used to be because they don’t use hand-timing anymore.

        That said, I agree the 40 isn’t what it’s often made to be. Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7.

    • D-Von Funk

      Huff was a third-round pick. He’s making the team. Hart will too, or at the very least, he’ll make the practice squad. He seems like a high-motor/hard worker-type with great size and sneaky athleticism. Like Baldy was saying, he has violent hands and if he can develop a better array of pass rush moves, I think he can be a key rotational guy for us down the line. He’ll make it real hard for us to cut him and I really don’t think we will.

      In regards to Huff, it looked to me like he has good, but maybe not great speed. I don’t really care about 40 times. I prefer to trust what I see on tape. I’m very curious to see how his speed translates at the next level. It looks like it should be enough, but I’ll reserve judgement there. I do like his hands though. He’s a natural catcher of the football and most of his drops seem to be the result of bad throws (although he tends to look downfield before securing the ball at times). Not a huge concern. Very straight-linish runner. I didn’t see a whole lot of wiggle there. Footage of his returns was somewhat limited, but I wasn’t wowed by what I saw (although he definitely is physical and does run harder than his size would suggest). I suspect he’ll be given every opportunity to be our return man. Also, knowledge of the system is key, and I would expect Chip to try to get him involved at least a few times each game in the screen game and maybe a jet sweep/reverse here and there. I can see Chip continue to use him lined up in the backfield at times.

      When watching him, he kind of reminds of Golden Tate, for what it’s worth.

      • Warhound

        Catching the ball it seems as though he (usually) watches the ball into his hands and doesn’t use his body. Gotta like that.

  • JAMIN67

    Excellent write up and observations!

  • Richard Colton

    I like this draft – moving up to get Matthews in the 2nd was my favorite pick of the lot. I’ll disagree slightly with Sheil’s analysis of their WR rankings – I think that they may have liked him ahead of Lee.

    • John E. Zang

      I think it’s quite obvious they weren’t planning on getting Lee actually.

      • anon

        Don’t think his physical passed the test — smoke screen.

    • D-Von Funk

      LOVED the Matthews pick. If they picked him at 26, I don’t think I would’ve batted an eye. I think the kid is going to be a stud. He screams ‘PRO’ through and through and I, for one, would not even think to bet against him. He’ll line up for us Day 1 and be a real contributor, I truly believe that. Something about his reaction on draft day and the way he carried himself made me like him even more. I mean, what other receiver in this draft would ask for tape on the opposing corners at the Senior Bowl?!

      I personally don’t get the “knock” on his ‘not overly strong hands’ and his slightly above average drop rate. I’m not buying it. Everything I’ve seen suggests otherwise. I saw drops but it seemed like they were either blatant missed PI calls or being left out to dry by bad throws.

      I also liked Latimer as a potential pick in the 2nd, but this kid is ready now and a much surer bet, IMO.

      • Tikkit

        One of my favorite Eagles, Jason Avant said unequivocally that hands were one of the only things you could improve. I’ll take his word and believe that Matthews will work on that part of his game.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Despite some drops, he does make some circus like catches as well.

    • PaoliBulldog

      The trade back from 22 to 26 provided the extra pick that I believe made moving up for Matthews more palatable.

  • PhillySean

    I’m glad that Chip Kelly is willing to proceed unconventionally. That’s a hard sell with some fans that are still traumatized by the Juan Castillo move and some of Reid’s other RealityBeDamned decisions.

  • Frank

    Great draft, Eagles already had an explosive offense and added big Jordan matthews and blazing Sam Huff. Also they got a fast blitzing linebacker to sack the QB, a fast cornerback, a hard hitting safety and a couple of good d-lineman.

    These kid now combined with Foles, McCoy, Sproles, Maclin, Cooper, Ertz, Matthews…will be UNSTOPPABLE.

    Eagles are now legit Super Bowl material.

    • SuM

      Yeah… that Sam Huff looks like a player. I think he could be a potential Hall of Famer!

      • Frank

        Look at Huff’s highlights before you say stupid things. He is blazing fast and shifty and average almost 20 yards a catch. He will be an exciting player for the Eagles as a receiver and kick returner.

        • SuM

          Footage of Huff is hard to come by. But I’ll take you up on that.

          • anon

            Hard to see Huff blowing top off defense with a 4.5 40 time, could be b.c he’s going against crap schools most of the time. We’ll see i suppose.

          • Frank

            Yeah, that’s what they said about Jerry Rice…..LOL.

          • Frank

            Hey SuM…there is this brand new thing called Google…..simple go there and type in Josh Huff highlights….LOL.

          • SuM

            Sam Huff homie. Sam Huff.

          • SuM

            Trying to be the smartest guy in the room blew up in my face! Appropriate for an Eagles draft discussion.

          • Kleptolia

            Awwws. Ya beat me to it.

          • Kleptolia

            No, type in Sam Huff highlights!

          • BrettConnolly

            Civil War game against Brandin Cooks and Oregon State last year was a 3 TD effort in a win on a 4th and 11 with no time left, if I recall correct. (and is on youtube)

        • Maggie

          Ummm?

      • kleptolia

        Oh, man! Out here in Oregon we’ve been saying his name wrong for the past 4 years! No wonder he didn’t stick around for one more senior season!

        • Frank

          Huff’s real first name is Sam, not Josh.

          • Richard Colton

            Going to stick with “Josh” – fits better with my “Killer J” theme.
            Jeremy-Josh-Jordan – pick your poison. (sorry Reilly)

          • Andy124

            I believe his name is Jielly.

          • Richard Colton

            then he can stay

          • OldDocRoss

            Does this mean we have to keep Jeff and Johnson?

            Because boo to that.

          • Richard Colton

            Both gone. as is Mohmah. I was rooting for Jeff Janis in the 7th though, he would have fit in with the J’s. Shame Green Bay’s strategy to replace Jordy Nelson is to draft every white WR in America.

          • BrettConnolly

            I don’t think you’re ready.

          • Kleptolia

            Hm. That would be a neat plot twist. And one that I can’t find anywhere. Reference?

          • SuM

            PERSONAL — Born Joshua Ismail Huff on Oct. 14, 1991. Parents: Donald and Charlotte Simpson. High School (Coach): Nimitz (Robert Toomer), 2010. Major: Undeclared.
            Better than being born retarded.

    • Maggie

      Umm.

  • JosephR2225

    Eagles signed a UDFA kicker nicknamed “Murderleg”. He’s expected to compete for the position with the Eagles current kicker, nicknamed “G** D*** Stupid F***ing Henery”.

    • Joe from Easton

      Did you see this guy hit people? If he makes the team and makes one of those tackles he will be an instant fan favorite. The guy looks like a lunatic.

    • Wiztopher

      I call him “Turkey Neck.”

  • Andy

    They’ve signed a ton of UDFAs. Any chance we could get a post on those that are not expected to just be “camp bodies?” I was surprised they didn’t draft anyone on the O-Line–did they address that with free agents?

    • frank

      Yes, they signed about four offensive line free agents…one is a big 6’9″ tackle.

      You can see the whole list on csnphilly

      • Andy

        Yeah I saw the list on this site, but looking for a little more color from the experts. My knowledge of these college players gets pretty foggy after the guys expected to go in Round 1!

  • SuM

    I feel like we’ve got a bit of a hangover from the Reid era when it seemed like we were obsessed with motor, and drafted overachievers habitually. We’re a bit conditioned to second guessing guys that are drafted as we’ve been treated to picks like Matt McCoy, T’eo Neshaim, Ricky Sapp, Trevard Lindley, and Jaiquan Jarrett – guys that timed slow, and were often times also on the small side.

    With the past two drafts we may be have some qualms as to the overall timing of the pick, but each of these guys has a good size/speed combination. We got bigger and faster this draft.

    I like this draft overall… I think it’s a B+, but if there is one area I think we may need to look at is drafting developmental guys. They seem to be taking a college approach to the evaluation process… picking guys that will be great with coaching and development. We will see how it works out for them.

    • PaoliBulldog

      I think CK looks to motor as the beginning rather than the end of the search. If you don’t give maximal effort during every practice and game, then you don’t even get on the short list. With AR it seemed like motor was the main criterion. Even if you lacked size, strength, speed or skills.

  • Richard Colton

    This draft was a complete departure from what we saw last
    year – totally attributable to Chip Kelly’s rise in status with the Eagles. The
    same kind organizational pull that allowed him to cut the teams most
    accomplished WR was on display during the draft. Last year, they picked BPA in
    just about every case. This year, they say that they stuck to their “tiered BPA”
    approach. But when their first five picks mirror the team’s needs (essentially
    in order of need) it tells a different story.

    OLB,WR,WR,CB,S – coincidence?
    It’s like a cut-and-pace from Mel Kiper’s team needs

    I like the players they got. Matthews was a guy I had a 2nd round crush on for months. Reynolds looks better than Wolff coming out of college, and they hit on Wolff. I love the value they got with the 1st round trade back and the Bryce Brown trade. My biggest concern is the departure from a system that looked really successful last year.

    • anon

      very astute, i don’t like that coaches pick personnel, seems like we fell into that trap before.

      that said we picked a lot of pac-12 guys last year and i don’t think that was a coincidence.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I think the one difference, and it’s a huge one in my eyes, is the type of hand picked players by two said coaches. Reid literally selected the same players with the same limited skill sets & athletic ability. Key word being limited. Chip is picking guys that are athletes and versatile. That’s huge because you aren’t hard pressed if that guy doesn’t pan out at DE, because that’s all he can do. For example, Smith can play standing up or as a down lineman in even fronts, plus drop & cover. Watkins can play at every position in the secondary. Matthews & Huff can be moving chess pieces inside & outside & are well rounded, tough receivers that can play in traffic or in space. Hart can spell both DEs. There are no solid pegs, but rather putty with which to mold and make fit as needed.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          To add this also opens you up to allow you to be very creative with the plays you call, the personnel you use & where. You’re also limiting your weaknesses for your opponent to be able to exploit.

          I remember a theory from a ways back (I believe in colonial times) that revolutionized the building of firearms… It was called “interchangeable parts”.

          • Richard Colton

            upvoting Eli Whitney – a 24/7 first, I think.

          • PaoliBulldog

            Whitney: cotton gin. Didn’t know about armaments.

          • Richard Colton

            his bigger accomplishment really – the ‘gin started the Civil War, interchangeable parts helped end it.

          • PaoliBulldog

            That and the “Abominable Tariff” of 1828.

          • JofreyRice

            Agree. I’m not as big on Smith as you are, but he does really strike me as a guy with great instincts. Very smart player, it seems like. I think his versatility allows Davis to do more creative things in confusing protections. If he can get Smith free runs at the QB, like what Strong did at Louisville–getting him the promotion to Texas–then who cares whether or not he’s got that natural bend and acceleration to beat tackles snap after snap?

            I have not been a huge fan of the offseason additions on defense, but I do agree that all the versatility could provide some headaches for opposing QB’s. Kendricks, Ryans, Barwin, Smith…Jenkins, Boykin–who’s coming? Cox, Logan, Thornton–who’s dropping? 3rd downs, you might now be able to get DeMeco off the field running a 4-2-5, with Kendricks & Barwin in the middle, and put Smith and Cole along the line–up or down–outside of Curry and Cox. Could be interesting. I think it puts even more power in Davis’ hands.

          • Warhound

            I think we’ll see some 2-3-6 at some point in addition to 3-3-5 and maybe even 2-4-5. Deception, deception, deception!!!

          • PaoliBulldog

            I want Chip to appoint a Coordinator of Quantum Mechanics, who will utilize Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle to implement a 6-5-7 scheme that will go unnoticed by NFL officials.

          • Warhound

            :) ha

    • BrettConnolly

      Lot of good points, really. On an aside, did you see the Howie presser? I thought there was some good information in it, but one part stuck out: “When I bring coach a prospect, I don’t ask him what he thinks, I tell him what I think.” I love hearing that.

      • GoBirds1

        Brett, do you really think Chip gives a rats ash what Howie thinks about any prospect??? Howie is there to manage the cap, structure deals and a PR spin doctor. If you believe what Howie and Lurie say, you are the bigger fool.

        • Tikkit

          Where did you get your information? In the few lines that you have written you’ve managed to pack in total ignorance of the FO situation. I hope that you’re just trying to troll and don’t actually believe what you’ve written. Wow.

          • GoBirds1

            Please enlighten me with your first hand knowledge of the FO situation. I am sure you know because Howie said so in his presser and he was backed up Mr. Lurie in his state of the Eagles address

    • JofreyRice

      I think they came out of the first 3 rounds of the draft with a couple second rounders and a fourth. That’s fine, as long as they fit what Chip wants to do. I fully agree, this offseason is much more about Kelly making his mark on the team. Last year he was doing his best to work with the holdovers, this year, he wants to shape the roster into his vision. Lets hope for continued success.

    • GoBirds1

      Why does every feel that BPA actually exist in a literal way. It is always relative to a teams needs. Otherwise equally damaging to your team and roster. Unless your team blows and your roster is worse and you have 13 picks, you should draft BPA relative to handful of needs. The mistake is when you reach to fill a specific need when you could drafted a better player addressing a different. To my point, BPA in a vacuum does not exist, think about it.

      • cliff henny

        if straight bpa existed, then teams would double or triple up on positions.

    • Amar

      Why did we skip on Moncrief ? I was pretty sure he’d be an eagle if available in the later rounds.

  • Carmine929

    question, earlier on I was reading that miami would have Taken a 1st and Graham for Dion Jordan after rejecting a 2nd rounder and BG.After we moved back to #26, why not call Miami and get it done instead of reaching for Smith because YOU KNOW Jordan is scheme fit and Kelly loves, plus he’s less of a reach?

    • JAMIN67

      I’m sorry, but I have to disagree on just about everything you just said. First off, while I understand Dion Jordan is not a “scheme fit” in Miami…what did he do in his first year as a pro that makes you feel HE’S less of a reach than Marcus Smith? Secondly, Marcus Smith is just as much of a scheme fit as Jordan; in fact, you could argue the point that he’s the most “3-4 ready” OLB in the draft. The bottom line is, Marcus Smith isn’t a “reach” by any stretch of the imagination. He’s a solid OLB, and I’d rather take his potential than a guy that didn’t show squat in his first year on an NFL roster.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I’d also add that Smith is a better pure pass rusher than Dion. Yeah Dion has better length & speed, but Smith is a much more instinctual player and a more natural fit for pass rushing OLB. Dion truth be told, is much more of a developmental project than Smith. Mark my words, he will have earned the right to start before season’s end. Whether they will or not in respects to Cole, is a different discussion. But Smith will have earned the right.

        • Peteike

          Remains to be seen. Dion could still be great or Smith, we just don’t know yet esp with dion in 4/3

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s true but I’m looking at the players as they were drafted not a year later for Dion. Dion was still a raw player coming out & played the defensive game looking like a converted offensive player. Not so for Smith. He looks natural on that side of the ball, even as a QB convert.

    • WorldPh_ingChamps

      Here’s the thing about Jordan – He took plays off in COLLEGE. He played like HALF of the defensive snaps because he wore down too easily. Could have been due to all the teams out there that run hurry up offenses, but that is still a knock on him, plus he was not good against the run. To me, even though he went in the top 3 last year, THAT was a reach, and could be considered more of a reach than Smith at #26 because of limitations in Jordan’s game. One thing I know from watching the Gators (I live in Gainesville) is that Charlie is honest when talking about players, and he always had as near to complete players as one could get. Honestly, Jordan may be the better athlete, but Smith is the more complete football player.

  • Andy124

    I was a little concerned with the Huff pick until I read two words:
    Hines Ward

    • anon

      that’s jarvis landry — but miami jumped up and took him

      • Andy124

        Huff has a lot more speed than Landry and is still a hard-nosed WR. Ward wasn’t a blazer, but his 4.55 40 was a lot closer to Huff’s 4.51 than Landry’s 4.77

        Huff is also better in every other combine stat, vert, broad, even stronger with more reps on the bench. If he was 3 inches taller…

        • anon

          Landry’s not a track star, he’s a football player.

          • Andy124

            I’m not saying Landry can’t play, I’m giving reasons why I think the HuffWard comparison is better than a LandryWard comparison.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I can see your comparison. Tough player that can fight through his limitations and play much bigger.

    • mtn_green

      Matthews and Huff is all about beating press man and bump and run, they do it well. Their list was only wr that can beat man and aren’t afraid of contact.

  • D-Von Funk

    Since the draft, I’ve watched every available video for each draft pick (and a few of the rookie FAs) that I could find on draftbreakdown.com. Overall, I’m pretty optimistic about our picks and I really think we’ve got ourselves some good football players, BUT…

    Now full disclosure, I am not a professional talent evaluator, I just play one on message boards. However, I’ve played the game, I’ve coached it, and I’ve watched it long enough to trust what I see.

    All of that being said, IMO, the one real head-scratcher in this draft class is Ed Reynolds. After watching an admittedly very small sample size of videos on the guy (3, on said website), I just don’t see what the Eagles brass saw in this guy to make him a 5th round pick, let alone draftable. I know he’s a Stanford guy, and that Chip knows him, but I challenge you to watch those same videos (again, a small sample size, but that’s all I’ve got to go off of) and tell me what you saw on film to make him worthy of that selection. There is a play or two he makes in each of those videos that you like to see from your safety, but from what I saw, the bad far outweighed the good.

    From what I saw, he’s a decent enough tackler. He wraps up and doesn’t seem averse to contact. He’s not an overwhelmingly physical hitter by any means, though, and he tends to utilize more of a drag-down technique. Overall though, not bad. When he’s in position to do so, he seems pretty reliable in that respect.

    The 2012 video vs. UCLA is BAD. Like really bad. He gets a pick and has a huge return off it, and he makes a nice play where he diagnoses a screen pass in the flats and comes up and makes the play on it, but the rest is hard to watch. It’s all terrible angles, MULTIPLE missed tackles, and getting caught up in trash. Definitely more lowlights than highlights in that one.

    The two 2013 videos aren’t nearly as bad as the previous one, but they still show some troubling tendencies. Most notably, how easily manipulated he is by the QBs eyes. It doesn’t just happen once or twice either, it’s a consistent theme throughout the two videos. He locks in on the QBs eyes and loses track of his coverage responsibilities, and the receivers around him. I would say this is far and away the biggest knock on him. To compound the matter, he just doesn’t have the athleticism or quick-twitch ability to recover from his mistakes and being out of position once the ball is thrown. As a result, he gives up some big catches in his zone.

    I hope I’m wrong in my evaluation, but from those videos I think he is far and away the least likely of our draft picks to make this team. Especially since I’m not totally convinced he can even be an effective special teamer.

    • Richard Colton

      “I am not a professional talent evaluator, I just play one on message boards.” – upvoting that line.

      Your point about Reynolds is well taken. If you remember, the very same things were said here after last year’s draft about Wolff – his tape showed a lack of discipline and missed tackles – an anti-Reynolds. After some coaching, I saw enough from Wolff as an Eagle that he’s completely justified his draft position. Maybe more. All I can say about Reynolds is this: the coaches must have seen something they like, and Ray Diddinger (the best football mind in the city) loves the pick. That’s enough for me.

      • D-Von Funk

        I like the optimism. Perhaps my perception of that pick is overly harsh because I’m genuinely encouraged by most of what I saw on tape from every other draft pick of ours. In other words, he had a lot to live up to, in my eyes. Especially in the 5th round.

        I think the main difference between him and Wolff- college tape aside- is I think Wolff is on another level athletically. And we’ve all had the benefit of seeing some encouraging things from Wolff at the next level. Reynolds? It remains to be seen. Hopefully, you’re right.

        • Richard Colton

          I am very optimistic about the players – I mean, if you can’t be the day after the draft, when can you be? My pessimism only is about the reaching. I think JR said it best, we came out of the first three rounds with “…2 second rounders and a 4th.”
          As far as Reynolds – there’s no real consensus. Some folks (incluse ESPN) think he was great value in the 5th. Some see him exactly the same way you do.

          • All Things Bad@ss

            Not to be argumentative because all of this stuff is subjective until it plays out, but I’m not sure I understand all the talk about “reaching.” Reaching, how? Because a bunch of people have dictated where they think these players should be drafted? Certainly there’s gonna be disparity between how 32 coaches, GMs and infinite FO personnel view each of the hundreds of players in the draft, so it’s never safe to assume that trading back will harvest an extra pick(s) AND the player they want. There’s also no guarantee that someone else’s pick who everyone feels we “should’ve taken” will be any better than ours. It’s putting chips on 6 & 8 at the craps table and rolling the dice, at best. Nothing’s a reach if they’re the guys they wanted and ended up with some extras, IMO. I dunno man, it’s all just subjective really.

          • Richard Colton

            yes.
            look, I like the player – Smith is a guy I’ve been following ever since Geagle starting pounding the table for him 3 months ago.

            Part of drafting well is understanding the relative value of the players. Out of the hundreds of player rankings and mock drafts, including the ones by football minds I respect more than 1/2 the GMs in the business, I’ve yet to see one that had Smith in the top 26. Doesn’t mean he won’t turn into a top player, just means the Eagles reached to get him.

        • Shane Brown

          Agreed wolff is very athletic for a safety. I like your analysis of reynolds. Im impressed. I watch tape of so many prospects in the spring and the safety tapes are always the hardest to give a deep evaluation on. Maybe its because its they arent even on the screen until the end of the play when the camera moves down the field. They should show all safety tape with arial cameras not the high sideline camera. Anyways, kudos to you

    • Matt

      If you wanna see some bad tape watch Clinton-Dix against Auburn. Atrocious, and I’ll even say “Chung-esque.” Can’t believe all the local radio hosts and callers saying they wanted to trade up for him. I think we can live with some poor moments from a 5th round safety, especially with the improvements Wolff showed over his rookie tape.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    So let’s look at the turnover on the offensive side of the ball from last year to this year as of right now. We lost DJax, Avant & Brown. We added Matthews, Huff, Sproles & we’ll just call Maclin & Benn as healthy additions (even though we re-signed Mac more as a 1yr insurance policy it seems).

    Not to shabby. I really would’ve liked to see another actual RB in the mix as insurance behind Shady. I just don’t see anyone on the roster that will be able to at least hold down the fort should Shady go down. Polk came on towards the end of last year but he’s got chronic shoulder problems. Hence the reason I really wanted a Tre Mason. As it stands right now, Shady, Polk & Sproles (+ the UDFAs). Something to keep an eye on.

    • D-Von Funk

      Don’t sleep on that back we signed out of Mizzou. I liked what I saw on tape. He has the makings of a 3rd down back (provided he can pass block of course). I don’t see him making the roster necessarily, but the practice squad just might be a realistic possibility for him. His skill set suggests he may have some potential as a return guy too, but I don’t know if he has any experience doing that.

      • Andy124

        And Tucker ran with some power last preseason and Chip made it a point to include him when he was talking about our RB corps.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Wait, refresh my memory. We signed UDFA RB last yr, then lost him from the practice squad as someone signed him. Wasn’t that Mathew Tucker?

          • Andy124

            Tucker was a UDFA, but I don’t think we ever lost him. He’s still listed as an Eagle.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Haven’t gotten that far yet. But I guess my point is more to the reliability of depth behind Shady with him being such a large part of the offense and scheme.

        • cliff henny

          you’ll like him. fotin ground, cut to hole and go. pefect for kelly’s O. dont sleep on Fluellen ether. power back, short yardage, i wouldblink if it’s 1 shady 2/3 3/2 sproles Joesph 4 fluellen.

  • Andy124
    • Jerry Pomroy

      Hahaha, Jordan Matthews reminds me A LOT of TO too. Not so much attitude, but in his game.

      • cliff henny

        for me, if he has TO’s game, then he can have his attitude also.

    • Shane Brown

      Damn they really do want matthews to be avant lol

      • Harry

        I think Matthews wore that same #81 in college.

        • Andy124

          87

      • Joe from Easton

        I think they want Matthew to be TO.

    • Nick M

      37 is a horrible number. For some reason I hate when good players wear lousy numbers. I like all the other ones.

      • Doctor Jay

        could change, rookies don’t always get the pick of the litter among #’s.

    • Hanibal Luis

      Huff got 11. Nice. Now make it work bud.

    • Eagles1018

      I wonder how much say the players get in selecting numbers. I’d prefer Watkins get 33 or Reynolds to NOT get 30 so he could have that number. Why would Ed Reynolds get a cooler number?

  • Shane Brown

    I read an intelligent comment earlier today, and on espn of all places. To paraphrase, the guy said listen, if we took jordan matthews in the first round with pick 26 and then wouldve gotten marcus smith with pick 42, then no eagles fans would be that upset right now about the so called “reach” for smith. I liked the smith pick a lot personally, but thinking of it this way makes me like it even more. If you told me before the draft that in the first two rounds we would get marcus smith, jordan matthews, plus a third round round pick (which turned into the first pick of the 4th and 5th rds) then i wouldve been ecstatic honestly.

    • Shane Brown

      Honestly smith was my favorite OLB in this draft (obviously based on my previous comments about him) and matthews was my favorite WR prospect besides sammy watkins and odell beckham

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Agree all the way around. There were 5 guys out of the 7 we selected that I really wanted as being realistic targets. Smith, Matthews, Huff, Hart & Allen. Couldn’t be happier and love the pick of “the other Watkins” as well. Reynolds adds another guy to the safety mix that could develop into a starter possibly or at least be a venerable backup & not just a STs player that can’t play the position he assumes on the depth chart.

        • Shane Brown

          And if you think about it, we got smith, huff, and watkins all with the 22nd pick because of the trade back. Ill take that

          • cliff henny

            didnt eagles get 86 to moveback to 26, which they then use to move back to 4/1 and 5/1,to recoup the 4th used to move up to get Matthews? so it’s watkins and Hart. howie was wheeling and dealing, got little hard to keep up.

          • Shane Brown

            Youre right my mistake watkins and hart is who it was thanks for catching that

          • Shane Brown

            Still smith watkins and hart isnt a bad catch for what was originally the 22nd pick

          • cliff henny

            sure, man did it get blended together for me too. was half for trading 4/1 again, cause it does have some value. but, also, half against cause i was getting tired of waiting (and trying to keep up) to see what they rec’d in 1st rd trade-back.

          • NickS1

            Thought we got the 83rd in the trade back.

          • cliff henny

            yup, you’re right, 86 was originally eagles. easy to get mixed up. but, it’s official, Howie reads this site. he saw too many of Will’s first-draft mocks, by the way he was trading and moving around

          • NickS1

            Haha. Will proved to him that moving around isn’t as hard as everyone makes it out to be.

  • oreofestar

    Really like pick of Matthews you guys know I am a Matthews fanboy and I love him more now the kid is dedicated and a hard worker I mean this is the all time leading in the best conference in football but has a Chip on his shoulder because as good as he is he is always trying to be his cousin and that is a great person to chase

    • Richard Colton

      his cousin Jerry Rice or the other one?

      • oreofestar

        he is Jerry Rice’s cousin

        • Joe from Easton

          I thought he was Jerry Ricecakes’ cousin.

  • DoctorRick

    Great article and comments.
    After letting things settle down I’m thinking we did pretty well overall. It was tough waiting until #22 (26) since all of our real “need”/BPA combos were gone. And not a lot of subsequent picks either. I think the FO did a good job. Now we will see if the coaches have good stuff to work with. The Oregon picks and Beau Allen’s familiarity with the 3-4 should help with the learning curve.
    Overall this was a very interesting draft, and it will be fun to watch some of the guys we didn’t get progress through the season as well.

    • John E. Zang

      Agreed. I used to want Odell but I have a feeling he’ll never be that great. Could be wrong but I see him as a guy who will have spotty production kind of like Desean. It’s odd how he went from a later first projection all the way to the giants at 12. I actually think they reached.

  • Tautalatasi Jr.

    With my wife working today I had to drive around with the kids and do all these mother’s day activities for my mom and inlaws. I normally wouldn’t listen to sports radio this much in one day but I really can’t listen to gangsta rap with the kids in the car. Anyhow it seemed everyone was crucifying the Marcus Smith pick. I don’t know if he’ll pan out, but I remember the whole city wanting us to always take a linebacker in the first round, talking about how this franchise devalues the position. Now we finally take one and everyone’s all up in arms about it. SMH

    • D-Von Funk

      I had no qualms with the pick. In Smith, I saw maybe the most polished 3-4 OLB prospect. No projection needed, IMO. He’s an incredibly smooth athlete and I think the ceiling is high. I don’t think there’s any question he would’ve gone at the top of the 2nd round anyway, so I don’t get all of the hate, personally.

      I’d like to see him convert speed to power more often than he does, and develop more of a bull rush, but I think that will come with experience and coaching. However, the thing that stood out to me perhaps more than anything about the kid, is that he’s a natural when dropping into coverage. He seems to have a real understanding of zone coverage in particular, and when to pass off a receiver. I think he can be just as effective in man, when asked and that excites me.

      Actually, I think there are a lot of similarities between him and Barwin in terms of their skill sets, except I think Smith has more potential as a pass rusher and he’s probably a slightly better athlete (although Barwin’s no slouch).

      • Tautalatasi Jr.

        good analysis D-von, I still don’t understand all the hate. No one knows if this was the right move or not. Hell even Chip says he doesn’t know. I would like to reserve judgement on this regime until they prove they are competent or not. Everyone is still shell shocked with the past FO’s I feel. I hear dudes saying this was like the Jon Harris pick? John Harris! that was so long ago and that was a Ray Rhodes pick along with Mamula.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I’m looking forward to some strip sacks too. I can see him getting Eli & Romo on a few of those.

      • livingonapear

        Good point about the bull rush. I saw that he caught the Montana RT flat footed a couple times and bulled him, so it’s there, he just needs to learn how to do it consistently.

        Also, if we use Smith and Barwin equally, neither being the predator, both being able to drop or rush, then we might find out that Barwin is the 11.5 sack guy after all. We used him to stabilize last year, maybe we can open up his jets a bit more this year.

  • Warhound

    Can any of these guys relief pitch? ‘Cause the…. oh never mind…

  • Token

    I think overall im in the C+ range about this class on paper.

    - Smith was a reach. Anyway you want to slice it, it was a reach. But, they kinda had to do it. Just how it fell for them. They had a giant hole at OLB and it needed filled with something other than a middle round pick. And from what I hear the Skins liked Smith so he likely would have been gone if we waited. Hes got good size, seems to be a good athlete to work with. Its all about coaching.

    - Matthews I went from being ok with a day before the draft to kinda having a crush on him after. I had no idea how much he loved the game. This guy was watching film on corners hed face in the senior bowl. I just love that. Thats being a pro. Some kids, like DeSean, just never learn that aspect of being in the NFL. I hope his talents translate to the next level. And I hope he isnt relegated to just the slot, I dont get that. I liked Robinson, but I guess Chip likes this fit.

    - Huff was a pretty big reach. It was predetermined all the way back to Huffs pro day that we were gonna take him in the 3rd round, unless you think Huff is lying about that. That sounds like a sentimental pick to me. But seems like a good kid, hard worker. I just hope he has the talent to become more then a 4th WR and ST player. We need more then that out of a 3rd round pick.

    - Watkins seems like a good pick. Looks like a natural corner. A comfortable athlete. Chip said they would work him at S and CB, then Howie said hes just gonna be a CB at first. I think Howie has the right idea. Chip gets a bit carried away with that stuff. A rookie you want just focusing on being the best he can at one thing. CB is this kids thing. No need to have him gaining weight this year to work S. In a pinch, sure, but otherwise leave him be. I hope he can atleast be a good nickel CB that allows Boykin to go outside either this year or next.

    - Hart, more Oregon. Im hoping now after this season Chip doesnt have the same connection with Oregon players coming out in 2015 and beyond. Besides I guess Mariota and a few others. I just dont like this impulse to put the band back together. All that said I like the Hart pick. Seems like exactly want you want in a 2 gap DE. Not gonna wow you with anything but loves to do what he does and goes hard all the time.

    - Reynolds is the worst pick in the draft for me. Maybe ill be way off base. But I dont like the player. I think hes a limited athlete. I think trying to piece the S position together using 5th round picks is a waste. And I think theres a difference between being intelligent, which im sure Reynolds is, and having good football instincts which I just dont feel he does. When you are limited athletically as a S you better have good instincts to make up for it, like a Jarius Byrd. Running a 4.6 and not being great in that regard leaves you being another Kurt Coleman or Nate Allen, maybe. Id just rather take a chance on a really raw athlete if im gonna take a S in the 5th round to mold. Seattle has a good feel for that it seems.

    - Allen, looks like a big kid that plays hard. Can he make the team backing up at NT?

    Im hoping this kicker does well too. I want Henery out of here.

    • Neanderthal

      Always good to get your upbeat, glass half full view on things

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Umm, that was half full for him. I’ll take it.

    • J Evans

      So you mean that Oregon kid, Jarius Byrd? lol…seem a little odd to bash Oregon in one paragraph then use an Oregon guy to praise in another paragraph? Get over the Oregon connection…these are players worthy of being compared to anyone in NFL

    • PhillySean

      Thinking about that idea that Huff was looked at as a 3rd round pick going back to his pro-day. Can’t help but think of the fact that the Eagles were supposedly looking for a 3rd round pick in exchange for D-Jax.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I see TO when I watch Matthews. It’s the other stuff that’ll set him apart.

    • reb

      Nice reasoned discussion but the first sentence makes me think “it’s a good thing games aren’t played on paper.” Won’t know much of anything about the quality of the draft until some game time.

  • Harry

    Mel Kiper of ESPN gave Eagles draft a grade of……B+

    • oreofestar

      who cares what he thinks

      • reb

        Draft grades right after the draft are the second most ridiculous bit of stupidity in the NFL world (right after mock drafts). Maybe after 3 years it would make sense.

  • NickS1

    I’d say B. After learning more about Matthews I’m not as upset with the trade up after seeing Latimer and Robinson sit there into the late 50s. Not a fan of the safety taken in the 5th. And we got Gossamer in the 7th. How can anyone hate that?

  • Hanibal Luis

    I think a B from Mel and everyone here is a fair grade. I would’ve like to have seen an ILB come in too, but I guess they didn’t like anyone and Goode flashed good play last year, especially in the GB game.

    I had dismissed Matthews because I kept hearing about his bad hands. But how bad can they be when you were the only weapon on your team, lead the SEC in catches and so on and so forth. Plus, the kid already looks and sounds like a pro. Only regret, Avant isn’t here to mentor him, but no big whoop.

    • PaoliBulldog

      Matthews is a “most interesting man in the world” quip waiting to happen. He don’t need no stinking mentor.

  • Andy124

    Eagles signed Nebraska QB, Taylor Martinez, to play WR or DB. I like it.

    • cliff henny

      anything but qb, and i’m ok.

  • NickS1

    I’m pretty excited by the Josey pickup. One of the handful of RBs in this class that would be perfect learning from Sproles for a year or two.

  • Token

    ILB is pretty suspect still. They really are putting all their eggs in the Kendricks basket. Ryans is nearly done. And if Kendricks doesnt once and for all show he can be a player they will be looking at starting at starting a rookie ILB in 2015. Anyone know if the ILB class next year is supposed to be better then this one? Pretty clear they didnt think much of this years crop.

    • NickS1

      Christian Jones signed in Chicago, apparently. I wonder if there were more character issues than just the failed combine drug test we never knew about.

    • PJ

      in the 50% of games in which kendricks decided to show up, he was decent last season

  • Philly0312

    Looked over Reynolds pro day numbers…He improved drastically across the board, especially with a 4.42 40 and 38 inch vertical. Can be skeptical of pro day 40….but giant jump in vertical is impressive

    • Mitchell

      O wow, that is extremely impressive. I know not many 5th rounders pan out as starters but because of the depth of this draft and Reynolds looking really solid on tape. I really think he can be.

  • GMaddox

    CK will make Vermeil look like a UCLA hater when he is done. So, we took Louie Henry and Wally Giamona and a gaggle of PAC-12 dynamos. Still, the proof will be what happens on the field. The Vandy guy should be good though it remains to be seen whether he will be a deep threat.

    • Joe from Easton

      Foles throws a solid jump ball and Matthews is a jump ball catcher. I’m sure he’ll have his fair share of 20+ yard receptions this year. I’m not sure he’ll be a RAC guy on those long plays, but he’s going to go get the ball downfield.

  • oreofestar

    so assuming lets 2 or so of these UDFA can make the roster and I think every draft pick should make the roster as Allen is an improvement over Square, Reynolds should become 4th S and Hart should be primary DL backup C(and watch out I think he is good enough to take Ced’s job some time) I mean Matthews, Long , Square, Johnson who is gone because there is much more competition than before

    • Hanibal Luis

      Depends if Square progresses and takes a decent leap this year. To me he looked slow and mechanical once the season started. I wonder if any other UDFA really stands out and pushes for a spot. Looks like Tucker gets first crack at rushing RB #3. Want to see if this Burton kid has the goods.

      • oreofestar

        I want Josey to make it just cuz of his story, I think Burton may have a legit shot at roster too, hopefully Murderleg is better than Henry apparently he is a touchback machine just not as accurate as Henry in college,

        I think Allen and Hart should both make roster so with them and Kruger back I think that will push Sqaure out, Matthews is gone we’ll see about long. Marsh and Carmichael are goners with Ed and Jaylen here but we will see not as many locks for the roster as usual

        • Hanibal Luis

          Josey would be a great story but besides that the guy just burns on the field even after the surgeries.

  • Jeff Asay

    Josh Huff 5’11″ 206lbs 4.51 40-yard, 35.5″ vertical, 9’10″ broad jump
    Hines Ward 5’11.5″. 195 lbs 4.55 40-yard, 30.5 vertical, 9′ broad jump

    Josh descriptors: Versatile, Competitive, Elusive, Strong, Willing Blocker, Good YAC
    Hines descriptors: Versatile, Great athlete, Explosive, Speed&Quickness, Good hands. SI1998

    Might be early to say Huff is the next Ward, but I can hope he models his game after HW. From a measurables view, he has the tools to play a Ward type of game. SI likes this kid more than some, saying he has the makings of a good #2 WR. If he puts in the effort, he and Matthews could form a nice receiving tandem along with whomever gets drafted over the next couple years. Could be wrong but I expect both Mac and Coop to be outta here in 2015.

    • Joe from Easton

      If Huff can play then I can see him being Mac’s replacement, but unless they draft another big boy I don’t see Coop going anywhere. Kelly covet’s that ability too much.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    For those that continue to doubt Marcus Smith. This is from Josh Norris of Rotoworld.

    Where He Wins: The more I watched the Cardinal, the more I liked him. Not only can he bend around tackles, Smith loves to chase from the backside and converts speed to power with good length and hand use. I know I keep bringing up hands and technical skill, but it really does set great rushers that can win on counter moves apart from good ones that have one trick.

  • Aussie Eagle

    Huff’s calves have calves

  • Scott J

    I’m glad they didn’t trade down in the 4th and chose Watkins.