Kelly On Manziel: ‘I Love the Kid’

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Johnny Manziel
originally committed to play for Chip Kelly and the Oregon Ducks coming out of high school.

He attended an Oregon football camp with Marcus Mariota back in 2010 and both were planning on heading to Eugene. But Manziel had a change of heart and decided to stick closer to home by attending Texas A&M.

“When I coached at Oregon he was tailor-made for that [offense],” said Kelly. “Broke my heart. I love the kid. I think he’s a hell of a football player.”




Peter King brought up the possibility of a Kelly-Manziel union in his column Monday.

There’s a rumor (apparently faulty) making the rounds about the Eagles moving up to try to get Johnny Manziel. I wouldn’t pass it along if the person who told me wasn’t smart and, to this point, reliable. But I just can’t see it, and I have someone who would know better than the rumor source telling me it absolutely won’t happen. Which seems smart to me, seeing that Nick Foles’ 27 touchdowns and two interceptions and 119.2 passer rating would be pretty damned foolish to throw out the window for Manziel. I just put it out there as an example of the kind of stuff that makes the rounds when so much of what happens at this time of year is designed to be a misdirection play. As Bills GM Doug Whaley said Friday, speaking to western New York reporters: “It’s finally one time where we can use you guys [reporters] to our advantage. There are things that you put out there to see if someone bites, and there are some things you put out there that are true. You have people read between the lines and you don’t want to show your hand. I’m sure everyone is doing the same thing.’’

Sheil laid out the multiple reasons why it appears unlikely that Manziel will end up in Philly.

Do the Eagles have interest?

"We have an interest in anybody that is draft eligible this year," Kelly replied.

 

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  • peteike

    28/2

    • MediaMike

      Correct. Who needs the flavor of the week style QB when we’ve got a budding superstar passer?
      Manziel, and anybody who plays that scramble bum style like him, can play that way elsewhere. I don’t want that trash in midnight green.

    • oreofestar

      but can he run fast…

      • Amar

        Runs his mouth faster and often..

      • Jerry Pomroy

        The worst trait to Mike for a QB…lol.

        Frankly, I’m just tired of “mobile” QBs & welcome the change in Foles.

    • mtn_green

      Foles’ nickname has gotta be ’27/2′

    • Leegles

      Someone needs to print a t-shirt with just that on it.

    • paul from nc

      I think the important numbers are about .500 W-L ratio

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    The First time I saw Manziel play I said “who- in- the- perfect- for- A-Chip- Kelly- offense” is this guy? Not that it’s happening but Kelly’s bromance is real folks.

    • oreofestar

      why do you say that….cuz he runs

      • mksp

        Don’t be simple.

  • AusieEagle

    It is true that you can never have enough good QB’s on a team. It’s also true that you can have too few good players on the other side of the ball…

    • paul from nc

      Defense doesn’t seem to be a priority around here anymore. Let’s fill that receiver spot.
      Where is Buddy Ryan?

  • Peter Patrick

    “We have an interest in anybody that is draft eligible this year.”

    Classic Chippah line and quirkiness. AR would have said “uh, we have to do better”

    • Brandon Pinkney

      Gotta love Chip’s smug sense of humor.

  • Phyxius

    Can’t wait for the Manziel talk to end, quite annoying.

    • Eagles1018

      Yeah we were also ready for the Desean trade/release “rumors” to died down as well.

    • ohitsdom

      I prefer that to the Benjamin mock pick.

  • MediaMike

    If you’ve read any of the stories about how the ding dong criminal that owns the Browns was upset they missed out on RGKnee / RG3&out / RG3&10 and has been obsessed with adding a scramble-bum since then, I don’t see how Manziel doesn’t become a Brown……………………. and a wet stain on the turf after somebody scary from Cincy, Baltimore, or Pittsburgh ends his life when he’s out for a Sunday stroll rather than learning how to make progressions and throw the ball properly.

  • Rick H

    Tim I know you are having fun. However I am 99% certain that Head Coach Obrien of the Houston Texans would give the Eagles the #1 overall draft pick for Nick Foles and probably more then that.
    Why? Look at how hard it is to find a decent QB let alone the performance and upside Nick Foles has right this second.
    Look who Obrien had at Penn State and how much he loved the kid (very similar but not as tall as Foles). He couldn’t hold Foles’s athletic supporter. No disrespect to him and he is a heck of a College QB.

    • Weapon Y

      Total hypothetical, but would you take the Texans first pick for Foles in a trade?

      • oreofestar

        damn that first pick is tempting but no…it is hard to find a young franchise QB so why…who are who drafting a #1 who is better than Foles

        • Eagles1018

          Khalil Mack? Clowney? Sammy Watkins? I mean pick who you want. I like Foles but I use the same cliche crap that’s been regurgitated about DJax…”one guy does not make the offense go.” Honestly you’ve got Sanchez. Why not trade Foles?

          Really I’m kidding but hey who knows…..

          • paul from nc

            Not that far out of the realm of possibility.
            Jackson was a pro Bowler, best career year and they let him go for nothing as a “football decision” — money????
            Foles is in for a HUGE contract and major cap hit . Plus he’s not one of Chip’s guys and do not believe he can run the full Chipper offense. He did super well last year and may never have a higher value. I’ve seen stranger things out of these guys.
            I’d want at least a 1st and 2nd, or 1st and 2015 1st. Do you think Houston would do either?

        • cliff henny

          1st pick, 2nd rd, plus, next yrs and a reach-around for every eagles fans from THE Houston cheereleaders, mean i’d want ALOT!

          • oreofestar

            throw in another 5th and make it a little more than just a reach-around then we got a deal

          • cliff henny

            toss’em a fiver, sure they’d mind the stepchildren

        • Weapon Y

          I wouldn’t do that trade myself, but if I was forced to, I would select Jadeveon Clowney with the first pick and hope Manziel falls to #22. If no Manziel, tank this year and draft Jameis Winston/Marcus Mariota next year.

          • oreofestar

            if I was forced to a see if I can trade back like 2 spots with Jax for a 3rd get Mack than use that get Manziel at 22 or falling Bridgewater than use the extra 3 on whatever hey but grea6 thing I am not forced to

          • paul from nc

            I’d love Mariotta, but tanking this season on purpose is not reasonable.

      • Rick H

        For me absolutely not! I would not make that trade if they gave me their 1st & 2nd. QB’s are way too hard to find. That is generally why teams languish for years in the bottom half of the league.
        Foles does something we have not seen here in a long time which is he DOES NOT TURN THE BALL OVER.
        In 2004 the last year the Eagles were in the Super Bowl McNabb was great because if I remember correctly he threw 31 TD’s & 8 INT’s (close to a league record back then). The Eagles had a much better defense then as well.
        If the Eagles get back to that type of defense they very well could be in the Super Bowl and win it.

      • Brandon Boykin, LOL

        Follow me here:

        Yes I would make that trade. Not a slight to Nick Foles (I had to say this repeatedly last season, as he was my fantasy QB. I went to the Super Bowl in my league ’cause of Nicky. Appreciate ya, bro!), but the numbers show that Chip’s system is pretty plug and play for a QB (see: Dennis Dixon). In fact Sheil wrote an article on this plug and play aspect. With that number one pick we could (potentially) trade it for more picks. More picks = more picks. Even if we couldn’t trade back, we’d STILL have a choice of Khalil Mack or Clowney etc. Thus our OLB problem is solved with a beast. THEN we could come back at 22 and pick again! Come on now all you people incessantly posting mock drafts. What would y’all do with that number one overall? Let it marinate.

        Once again, not a slight to Nicky Dynamite. Just playing along here. I mean, after all, FOles (shoutout to Geags!) isn’t even a Chip QB. We all know this.

        • mksp

          Yeah, I love Nick, but #1 overall? That’s a lot of currency in this draft. Would be a tough call.

        • FluxCapacitor

          Bird in the hand thinking would make me say no – even to the #1 pick.

          The tough thing about this scenario is we haven’t seen Foles do it for more than one year (I honestly thought he played really well given the circumstances his rookie year, but talking true performance). But, I don’t think QB is a plug and play position in the NFL like it was for Chip in college…and when you get a good one, you hold on with both hands/arms/feet/toes…

          • paul from nc

            I’d agree, except I watched last year with Vick and Foles.
            You can’t get two more opposite styles.
            Vick ran the #2 offense in the league until he got hurt. Foles came in and continued to keep it there.
            I’m disregarding Barkley’s performance because I just want to forget it, and it was so limited.

        • Eagles1018

          I just said the same thing a second ago. Shoulda just keep reading and up voted you…woulda saved my thumbs

        • Kev_H

          If it’s plug & play, what does it say about Barkley & Vick? The NFL is a QB league. Not a coach’s league.

        • IAteLunchToday

          I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I do still think that his scheme does support ‘plug and play’ having watched it for years at Oregon. As far as Barkley goes, they still like him for a reason I think. And Vick was just an old dog… (see what I did there? :D

          But even thinking Kelly is kind to QB’s, I wouldn’t trade Nick for a number one pick. They would have to get a lot more than that because I think QB’s that have stepped in during the season and led a team to a playoff victory… oh wait that was Tebow… a playoff loss are worth more than just one pick.

          • Brandon Boykin, LOL

            Maybe I should have added “79% joking, 11% serious, and 10% the part that could also be serious just to be a convincin devil’s advocate.”

      • mtn_green

        No.
        27/2 is not ‘plug and play’ not a ‘product of the system’ it is legit talent mixed with an offensive genius tailoring the offense to his talents. All offenses are tailored to their QB strengths.
        How many first draft picks would it take to trade Russell Wilson or Andrew Luck? Trade not happening ever.

        Foles will get a huge contract at end of season, and it will be smart to pay it.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Hell no. Foles play is a BIG reason this team went 10-6 and won the division in year 1 of the Chip era. I don’t buy the plug & play. Vick didn’t fair all that well and was on a downward slide before getting injured.

        QBs are like gold and if you’ve got a legit franchise QB, trading him now could REALLY bite you in the a$$ for years to come.

    • paul from nc

      Someone below said this years, and next years 1st’s. I’d do it for sure.
      This years 1st and 2nd, I’d have to think a while on that,
      Either way, it almost forces us to pick a QB at 1 or 22.
      I guess it depends if Chip really like somebody or not. Personally, I don’t think Manziel is going to stay healthy for very long in the NFL.

  • Weapon Y

    Never has a QB who played as well as Nick Foles been rumored to be benched for a rookie or traded so much. This would be insanely stupid on the Eagles’ part. I bet it’s total BS and hope I’m right about that.

    • oreofestar

      I would not worry I am sure Kelly genuinely likes Manziel and if we did not have a QB I am sure he would strongly consider getting him but he knows we have one in Foles and he won’t throw him aside

  • Scott J

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they drafted Manziel. Nothing surprises me anymore.

  • peteike

    best he can hope for is Doug Flutie v2. Hes built like a twig, hes going to be toast if he doesnt learn how to slide, wait, even if he does someone will get to him. He’ll surely get all fired up and annoy guys. Ooops, you were sliding there, my bad. And what does Flutie get you, early playoff exit ceiling. To be fair though, I do think he has some upside, he can sling it and I actually like the confidence. I think hed be great for a team like jville to just sell some tickets and he can win some games with his athleticism. Mobile QBs can win easier than pocket guys with less around them.

    • oreofestar

      His ceiling is not Doug Flutie now he may end up just being Doug Flutie v2 but I would never say that is his celing if someone can coach this kid up I say he has a high ceiling but then again his floor is even lower than Flute 2.0

  • ICDogg

    I don’t think he gets out of the top 10.

    • All In Eagles

      We can only hope he does get chosen in the top 10. This way we don’t have to worry about us pulling the trigger on him. I’d like to think Chip is smarter than that and content with Foles but it’s definitely a fear of mine. If he even falls to 54, I’d still be sweating. We have no need for him, unless he’s a 4th rounder like Matty B.

    • JofreyRice

      Greg Cosell said very matter of factly that he will be picked at #2 by St. Louis. And he doesn’t say that kind of stuff, usually.

      It’s funny, because people sweat them so hard for picking up all those picks from Washington for RG3, but I haven’t seen much of a payoff, so far. I’d say they are the worst team in their division, albeit the best division in football. Considering the head coach, would the defense be all that different without the valuable picks they’ve made? If RG3 doesn’t bounce back for Washington, it’s more lose/meh than win/win.

  • A Roy

    But, boy, can he sell jerseys…

    • oreofestar

      yep whatever GM drafts him is in for one thing at least a jersey that will be top 10 in sales day 1 and waay more tickets

      • cliff henny

        i’ll watch. just like i’m excited to see vick in nyj, for however long he stays healthy. put over/under on 15 no missed time for injuries games combined for the 2.

        • oreofestar

          I think Manziel will prove to be more durable than Vick the kid did stay healthy in college and in the SEC there are some monsters I say over I can see Manziel getting close to that himself and then Vick I will put it for 5 games before Geno takes the job away ffor good

          • cliff henny

            see him next to tebow on espn’s bcs coverage? JM has the shoulders of a 14yr old schoolgirl. he got away with it in sec,but no way he can dive head first in nfl around safeties, and that blind reserve pivot out the backdoor, oh man, he going to run into a d-end or olb and get crushed. that bowl game scared me. once pressure hit, he tossed everything aside and reverted to streetball.

          • oreofestar

            I like Manziel a lot more than most analysts who are quick to write him off as a bust who won’t stay healhty but I think the kid is coachable and if you can get him to slide and run out of bounds a be a little more patient I like his arm which is underrated he has special improvision ability and I think he can be a solid starter in the NFL bt you have o build your offense around him

          • All In Eagles

            Agree, he’s not lasting at all. He’s like a kid scrambling around back there.

          • paul from nc

            “run into a d-end” you mean dead end.

      • A Roy

        Someone below said Jacksonville. They need both.

        • oreofestar

          if Khalil and Jadaveon go 1 and 2 personally for them I would take Manziel before I take Watkins who is considered the next guy for them

          • A Roy

            I’d prefer they trade up to #22 from #35 and give us #35 and a 3rd & 6th.

          • oreofestar

            well who says the Jags want to give up that much we do not know how this will work also if the Browns take a QB first as I am sensing that ruins that

          • A Roy

            Yep. Always a lot of “what ifs.” Just hoping someone will get the hots for #22.

          • oreofestar

            What I am truly hoping is either we find a way to get Dion or Barr falls that is our biggest need IMHO

          • A Roy

            What? Giving up on Clowney? I think we have as much chance of getting him as we do Dion or Barr. I’d love to be wrong, but it would appear we need to do it (OLB) the Steelers’ way…coach someone up and get lucky.

          • oreofestar

            well I disagree Clowney is a lock for the top 3 while Barr could easily dip well into the teens and within 5 picks of us which is trade range and never give up on Dion

          • All In Eagles

            Do you give up #22 for Dion Jordan?

          • A Roy

            Probably.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    It’s funny that people refuse to connect the dots on this one….If cutting #10 was strictly a football decision, based on his inability to meet ALL of the demands of Kelly’s system then it’s not much of a leap to envision how they could pull the trigger on a Manzeil pick. Seeing how Foles doesn’t meet ALL the demands of the system either.

    The ideal that Chip thinks he can plug any ol players with average quarterbacking ability into his offense and make it go seems fairly obvious to me also, based on the qbs he’s aquired in the NFL, and the ones he started in college. Mariotta was probably the most talented QB he’s ever landed, and for the life of me I cant see anything remarkable about him besides his speed.

    I dont care what anyone says, this QB situation is something to watch. All Foles is gonna do is push the ball downfield and score points. But somewhere in the back of Chips mind he’s always gonna want HIS guy. I fear the day we see him blowing midnight green smoke up our ass, telling us how “trading Nick Foles makes us a better football team”.

    • h

      i agree. i dont think it is completely out of the question. if houston were willing to offer the eagles the number 1 pick (clowney) and a future first for foles and then take manziel/bridgewater i think theyd do it in an instant. not saying that would be the better choice (although it could pay off) just that no one is untradeable, especially those that were here before chip

      • paul from nc

        I’d take this years 1st and next years first for Foles in a NY minute.

        Think of the possibilities of trading that pick to one of the top 5-7 teams for multiple picks.
        I don’t want Clowney though. I would go BPA, Defense probably with Khalil Mack.
        Also, I’m not sold on Manziel either. But we would need a somebody to play QB this year.

  • paul from nc

    Please, I’m not sold on Foles for the future, but don’t want Manziel either
    If Foles gets hurt or doesn’t play well this year, we have no real back up and may be in the mix for a top pick. I hope not, but it’s possible.

  • Dustan M. Howell

    If you asked the Panthers,Niners, Skins,Seahawks, Colts, or even the dolphins if they have interest Johnny Football, would they say that they have interest in any player that’s eligible ? It’s clearly a rhetorical question. Do we hear the Jets GM saying that the Jets wouldn’t rule out taking taking Manziel ? We heard Howie Roseman say the the Eagles wouldn’t rule out taking Manziel. Roseman has already stated that the Eagles wouldn’t rule out taking a QB in the first round,and Chip has always danced around the question when asked if Foles is his franchise QB.