Draft Daily: Trade Up For Mike Evans?

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Greg Cosell of NFL Films was recently asked for his thoughts on Texas A&M wide receiver Mike Evans.

“You can make the argument that in some ways he’s a bigger and faster Anquan Boldin with his physicality and his hands, which is obviously a very good thing,” Cosell said while appearing on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.




That's a starting point sure to get Eagles fans excited.

At 6-5, 231 with 35 1/8-inch arms and 9 5/8-inch hands, Evans is one of the more physically imposing wide receivers in this year's class. At the combine in February, he ran a 4.53 40:

You can see that Evans’ athleticism is not going to jump off the page, but he ran a decent 40 time (especially for someone his size) and has the vertical leap to add to his already monstrous frame.

Last season, Evans caught 69 balls for 1,394 yards and 12 touchdowns, averaging 20.2 yards per reception. In 2012, he totaled 82 receptions for 1,105 yards and five scores. It's also worth noting that Evans is a relatively young prospect. He doesn't turn 21 until August.

Playing with Johnny Manziel, Evans was a big-play machine last year. According to Rotoworld, 25.37 percent of his receptions came on throws 20 yards or more downfield.

From author Greg Peshek:

The most normalized reception chart belongs to Mike Evans, who was the closest to average among the top tier. Much will be made about Manziel and Evans’ connection and reliance on each other for deep balls. However, we still have to be impressed by the fact that at 6’5” Evans has caught the highest percentage of receptions past 20 yards amongst the top 15 WRs in this class.

Evans was a master of using his size and out-muscling defenders on 50/50 balls. He also did a great job of coming back to the football or improvising when Manziel bought time. As a result, the Rotoworld study showed that nearly 44 percent of Evans' catches were on plays that had him coming back to the line of scrimmage.

He had great hands too, dropping only 4.29 percent of the catchable passes thrown his way.

Chip Kelly has talked about NFL receivers needing to beat man coverage above all else. Evans showed the ability to do that in college. Here's an example against Alabama:

Evans beats the press off the line, separates and makes the grab before the safety closes.

Another example here:

Evans separates, makes the grab over his shoulder and then takes off. This seems like a pretty good example of what 4.53 speed looks like on the field. Evans doesn’t flat-out leave the defensive backs in the dust, but he’s fast enough. At 231 pounds, he’s not going to be easy to bring down in those situations once he gets behind defenders.

Earlier we mentioned Evans' ability to go up and attack the football with defenders nearby. Here's a play where he gets Alabama safety (and first-round prospect) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix on his back while making the grab downfield:

Evans high-points the ball and comes down with it as three defenders close in.

And here's a fantastic effort of him winning a jump-ball in traffic:

Evans and Manziel were a perfect match in terms of improvisation. When plays broke down, Manziel constantly bought time and scrambled behind the line of scrimmage. Evans, meanwhile, constantly worked to get open and help his quarterback out.

Here's an example of what I mean:

What really stands out here is how Evans puts one-on-one defenders in difficult positions in the open field. The defensive back had about a 10-yard window in which to keep Evans out of the end zone, but he couldn’t do so.

Combine the speed, size and stiff-arm (Evans loves him some stiff-arm), and defensive backs are going to have trouble with Evans when he has the ball in the open field.

In terms of concepts that translate to the NFL, Evans really knows how to use his size. He should be good for a couple back-shoulder catches per game:

As you can see, there's plenty to like. Evans has size, ball skills and big-play ability.

There have been rumors already that perhaps the Eagles would be willing to trade up to snag Evans, considering he'll almost certainly be off the board by pick No. 22. After reviewing his skill set, the feeling here is that seems unlikely.

Given the depth at wide receiver in this class, the only way I would trade up is if I saw a prospect that had the following: plus size, great speed, college production, versatility and a clean bill from an off-the-field/chemistry perspective.

Evans checks some, but not all, of those boxes. He's not a burner, and he's not especially shifty or elusive. When the ball is in his hands, Evans' go-to move is to try and stiff-arm defenders to the ground before running past them. There's nothing wrong with that, but the point is he's not a "make-you-miss" guy.

In the games I watched, Evans almost never lined up inside, and a high percentage of his catches were outside the numbers. Evans certainly would be a mismatch against nickel corners, but I'm not sure he has the short-area quickness to consistently be productive in the slot.

Don't get me wrong. Evans is a really good prospect, and chances are he goes in the top-15 (maybe even top-10). If I'm the Eagles and he's somehow available at No. 22, I'd be ecstatic. But given that the team only has six picks and there are other needs to fill, I wouldn't trade up for him.

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  • myeaglescantwin

    there are too many holes on this squad and the team is too thing too make any jumps up into the top10..
    With the way that Howie has been drafting, giving up a 3rd or even a 4th rounder is giving up a talented player that will be key in building our squad.

    We are past the days under Andy where our draft selections were meaningless. Those late round picks we will need to sacrifice would be players that can make an immediate impact in 2014 through special teams play, depth and even potential starters.

    • Mike J

      Well said. We already have too few draft picks in this deep draft to give up any more.
      Best player available at #22 and the depth at WR will take care of itself in the 2nd, 3rd round.

      • anon

        you gotta diligence everyone which is why we’re bringing everyone in. someone is going to drop — never know who it might be.

      • peteike

        yup, the later picks in this draft are too valuable to start throwing around as trade bait. I suppose future picks is an option but Im already tired of this Evans talk. I just dont buy that its even close to having a chance

  • JosephR2225

    Alas, I wish they had the ammo they would need to move up for this guy, but I think it’s a pipe dream.

    • DEBO 215

      Agreed. Don’t see it happening but I’d love it if they found a way.

  • Uncle Wonder

    Is it groundhog day? I coulda sworn this post was already made.

  • DEBO 215

    Evans bailed Johnny football out so many times…the kid is an absolute beast. I’d be fine with them trading up for him. He’d be a nightmare in this offense.

    • peteike

      Didnt Johnny bail himself out many times first. Is it possible Evans benefited also from Manziel. I know hes so easy to hate so its tough to agree with that premise. Im not a huge college fball fan so I have no idea

      • myeaglescantwin

        if i were cleavland, i’d draft both of these guys.

        hell, St. Louis can do the same thing.
        Who ever benefitted whomever will continue through the pros.

    • myeaglescantwin

      i’ve already seen multiple pics of evans hanging with the same sort of crews that got DeSean in trouble. .. Isn’t master P his agent??

      do we want another go around of that sort of player?

      • Myke Lowery

        i think he’s got more T.O. tendencies than djax

        • myeaglescantwin

          I’m fine with that.
          TO gave 100% on every snap..
          He was running for 120+ yards on a reconstructed ankle while McNabb was puking on his cleats.

          The only issues that came up with him was on the contract & the fact that Dmac wasn’t as good as they were sayin, and TO wanted to let everyone know. If someone that good (6’3/230lbs) wants the money, you pay him.

  • Richard Colton

    We trading up to 6? I don’t see him getting past Tampa Bay at 7.

    • DEBO 215

      If you’re going up that high you might as well go balls out and try to get Watkins.

      • Richard Colton

        It would take a Julio Jones type draft move. Would you do that?

        • DEBO 215

          Trading up for either guy probably would be a similar trade to the Julio Jones trade, but it depends. They really need more on defense…but a guy like Watkins in this offense is a really scary thought. Evans too for that matter. I doubt I’d do it though. They need too much right now.

        • anon

          Have you seen that team with and without Julio? Can you imagine Evans vs DRC or vs Deangelo Hall? Skins would be so embarrassed they might just change their name.

        • peteike

          No

      • NCBiRDMann22

        Sammy Watkins would be unreal in Chippers offense. I would unload for him this year and snag Dion with picks for next year. Go all in for once Eagles FO!

        • JosephR2225

          “Go all in for once”

          What short memories we have.

          • NCBiRDMann22

            OK let’s think about this…does scared money make money? Can’t be “oh I don’t know if we can do that…(shaking knees) forever”mistakes happened with the Dream blunder but get over it. Have some stones!

          • Ark87

            that’s head-trauma memory right there.

    • NickS1

      Dude’s spider graph isn’t much different than KB’s.

      • mksp

        Fortunately his ability to catch the ball and run routes is….

  • Lou

    Eagles trade 2016 1st and this year’s 2nd for giants 1st Rd and 6th Rd this year lock it up we are getting two first rounders this year and Evans is dropping to 12 where we grab him and bpa for the 22nd

    • NickS1

      They make that trade and they’d better trade back from 22 to make up the lost 2nd rounder and add another 3rd.

      • Lou

        I’m not opposed to that depends on how the board falls

        • NickS1

          Eh, I suppose. Not too keen on the idea unless they’re planning on a trade back scenario to get to 30-35 plus added 3rd. And if they did that, a big part of me would pray for Allen Robinson to go with him. Mac, Coop, Sproles, Evans, A-Rob + Ertz, Celek, Shady. Good God that is scary to think about.

          • Lou

            That would be unfair to the rest of the league #DREAMTEAM?

          • NickS1

            Ahhh you did it. Had to curse the whole plan with #dreamteam.

          • Lou

            See that was the issue though vince young didn’t # it

      • JosephR2225

        The Giants wouldn’t make that trade in a million years.

        • NickS1

          I agree, but you could imagine what it’d be like if they did.

  • Tautalatasi Jr.

    ok I did a mock draft too I’m sure you guys would be happy with this haul:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 22 : T.J. A.J. R.J. Backslashinfourth V (B)
    Round 2 Pick 25 (S.D.):T.J. Juckson (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 18 (CHI): T’variusness King (D+)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Beezer Twelve Washingbeard (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 22: X-Wing @Aliciousness (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 23 (K.C.): Javaris Jamar Javarison-Lamar (C)
    Round 6 Pick 7 (CHI): Saggitariutt Jefferspin (D)
    Round 6 Pick 30 (N.E.): Quatro Quatro (C-)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Davoin Shower-Handel (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 25 (S.D.): Scoish Velociraptor Maloish(B)

    • JosephR2225

      No way @Aliciousness lasts ’til the 4th.

      • Lou

        No way

        • race

          Wdf

    • myeaglescantwin

      I said Joe Montaynia

    • Johnny Domino

      No offense, I’d rather have Suzi Quatro than Quatro Quatro.
      She hits harder.

    • George

      And Fudge as UDFA

    • Septhinox

      Key & Peele would be proud. lol

    • Bird of Prey

      We need Dan Smith as our kicker as well.

    • Maggie

      ROFL! This much imagination starts to get a little scary!

  • Breakerdog

    Maybe it’s just A&Ms limited route tree for outside receivers but I don’t see Evans making plays on intermediate rotues or crossing routes.
    For a player to be drafted this high, he needs to be more than a one trick pony. Even if that trick is pretty great.
    He won’t contribute on the screen game other than as a blocker.
    He won’t be getting any jet sweeps.
    So I would need to be sure he can run a dig route or a drag route before I pull the trigger.
    I am also interested if he has the ability to line up in the slot and make double breaks with quick feet to shake man coverage. Guys like ASF and J Amaro are great at this. It’s not that I don’t think he can do it. I just never saw it from A&Ms playbook.

    • anon

      He ran all routes pretty evenly last season. If you see Celek, LJ and Evans line up out wide, who is going to be tackling on that bubble screen? that’s a td. Get Evans in the weight room he’ll body guys while sproles does his thing.

      Value is always a question but it’s unclear that any other offensive player in this draft would have a bigger impact on this team day one, open to thoughts though.

      • Breakerdog

        Sammy Watkins is on another level. There is a pretty big gap between him and Evans, but I take your point. I just think that Chip values flexibility in players and in my limited, non scout, uninformed, internet opinion, Evans doesn’t seem to do much other than run 9s and back shoulder fades.

        • anon

          He actually ran a TON of comeback routes — he can get open against man, doesn’t give up when a play breaks down. But I hear you. I’m torn between a big guy and a route runner (jarvis landry). But if this guy is a better Andre Johnson? Watch out.

          Hard think of a Johnny football throwing highlight where ball isn’t going to Evans.

      • NickS1

        Kid is 21. Route tree can be learned, a little quickness can be gained, and general game IQ can drastically increase, especially with a coach like Kelly. I’m right with you, this kid is immediate impact player and still has a lot of upside.

    • JofreyRice

      Cosell says he only ran 3 routes.

  • NickS1

    This article has been up for almost an hour and no comment from Cliff yet? Cliff, you okay buddy?

  • NCBiRDMann22

    • peteike

      ya I saw one play of Watkins this past season and knew he would be playing on Sundays. Hes going to be good, hes a cant miss imo

    • JofreyRice

      yep, he’s unreal. Body control, acceleration, toughness. Built like a running back. Would love to have him.

    • Javi Echie

      Only receiver I’d trade up for in this draft and that’s impossible considering he is a sure fire top 4-5 pick

    • Nunya

      As a life-long Eagles and Clemson fan …. absolutely nothing would make me happier. First Dawkins than Sammy … never happen though

  • Birds4Life

    Does anyone else have to refresh the page every time they watch one of these vidoes? First video will play fine, click on the next video and the screen goes white with a gray question mark appearing.

    • Warhound

      No

  • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

    I think my last post disappeared!

  • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

    As I said before: all this talk of trading up to get a WR is nice, but that doesn’t seem to be the basket we need to be putting our eggs in based on how the rest of the NFC East is arming itself, and where their weaknesses are vs. our strengths.

  • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

    Let’s see if this one sticks.

  • George

    What do you guys think??

    Your score is: 4566 (GRADE: B+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 2 Pick 7 (JAX): Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 22: Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young (A)
    Round 3 Pick 6 (JAX): Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 23 (K.C.): Morgan Breslin, OLB, Southern California (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 2 (WASH): Dri Archer, WR, Kent State (A)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma (B-)

    • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

      Van Noy is what 240-245? Not a lot of faith in him holding up in this scheme vs LT’s all day long. We need a pass rusher with some size and a G. Both of our starters are 31+ and we have no up and coming depth there.

      • Javi Echie

        He would either play inside backer or learn the connor barwin ‘jack’ role cause he is not a consistent pass rusher at all

        • Richard Colton

          one of my favorite players in the draft. like you said, won’t beat NFL left tackles. Would be the #1 reserve at 3 of 4 LB spots on day 1. LOLB of the future. Will come in and spell DeMeco at ILB.

          Simply put – a playmaker.

          • Javi Echie

            Oh I completely agree with you Rich I like the kid a lot and I’m sure if we added him Billy will definitely find a way to use him.

      • Richard Colton

        He’s outstanding value at #54. Don’t think he’ll be there, but if he is…take him.

    • peteike

      I like it, esp the trade back. Imagine Arob and KB, wow. One has to hit right. Is Dri a RB or WR, it kind of says both when I google, I assumed he was more RB. Hes the only one I might pass on for more depth elsewhere on D most likely esp when you went 2 WR at top.

    • eaglefansocal

      Very good looking and realistic draft. The only change I might make is taking a safety or tight end instead of Benjamin with 1st rd 3 pick since you already have Robinson as a big receiver.

    • Hazy Eagle

      What site did u use?

      • Javi Echie

        first-pick.com

    • eaglefansocal

      One other comment, I love Dri Archer in the 7th. Think he is a Darren Sproles replacement 2 or 3 years down the road!

      • Richard Colton

        shame he won’t be there, right? I like George’s haul, just think a lot of the picks went about a round late.

    • Jorge Gutierrez

      Highly doubt that Benjamin drops all the way to the 3rd. Plus, why take him if Robinson is the first pick. I do envision the Eagles trading out of the first though and Jacksonville makes the most sense. I do like Van Noy a lot though but I don’t think he’ll be there that late in the 2nd round. Way too many WR’s though

      • ink

        Don’t make sense and don’t like this mock. Eagles clearly need to address their defense early in the draft, dont see benjamen going in 3rd either, maybe a 2nd rounder the latest

    • Tommy McCabe Jr

      Demarcus Lawrence will prolly sneak into 1st with DEN, Van Noy is better off in a 4-3, Benjamin is borderline 1st round early 2nd. Robinson is OK in 2nd but def will not go before the likes of KB, Moncrief, Davonte Adams and Jordan Matthews. From the 4th rd on ya got more realistic, with the exception of maybe Colvin. ACL tear included hes gone in the 5th a la Lattimore last year with Niners, Fell a bit but not too far due to injury.

    • Amar (India)

      Any draft that does not have Christian Jones, gets a boo from me.

    • Ian Farley

      are people using a website to create these mocks? if so what is it.

  • Eagles1018

    Draft Daily: Trade Up For Mike Evans?

    No.

    • Dominik

      Looked at Megatrons Spidergraph, just for the sake of comparison. That’s really a once a lifetime athlet at WR.

      http://mockdraftable.com/player/1573/

      • aub32

        It’s like someone created that guy on a video game

        • Javi Echie

          couldn’t agree more his chart is unreal.

        • Andy124

          Only if they had a cheat code.

          • Dominik

            6’5 239, ok. 4.35 40 – yeaaaaaah, of course.

      • Eagles1018

        If we could get a guy that is comparable to Megatron (and call him Optimus or maybe Starscream) I’d be all for it…but at what cost? Taken straight from this article: ” If I’m the Eagles and he’s somehow available at No. 22, I’d be ecstatic. But given that the team only has six picks and there are other needs to fill, I wouldn’t trade up for him.”

        • Javi Echie

          I’d say in Calvin is Megatron then Gordon should be Optimus so maybe Evans can be Bee or Starscream lol

        • Dominik

          If you could have Megatron, he’d be worth two first and two seconds. I don’t even want to think about Chip Kelly and Megatron paired up. That wouldn’t be fair even to great Defenses.

      • Nunya

        Megatron’s spider graph blocks out the sun … unreal.

      • anon

        You know what they say about guys with small hands.

        • Warhound

          Small gloves?

        • Maggie

          Thought that was ‘small feet”?

    • Eagles1018

      What’s bothering me is I’m not seeing a lot of visits and interest in the pass rushing options in this draft. It’s the teams biggest need since the second that the season ended, they didn’t consider anyone in free agency worth whatever price tag was out there (we don’t know if they made any offers just that their threshold was probably surpassed by player demands) and they’re not bringing any of those guys in for a visit or a private workout. Do they expect a 3-4 defense to be more effective without pass rushers? I know Trent Cole and Jackknife Barwin are the starters but at 32 and 14 million (?) next season for Cole and his lack of pass coverage skills who’s gonna be his eventual successor? It’s really really bothering me there seems to be no care for this issue

      • Javi Echie

        I thought we were bringing in Marcus Smith for a visit?. I could be wrong but I thought I read that. But I definitely feel your concern, I am hoping they are sending there lbs coach to do private workouts for some of these pass rushers like they been doing with coach Azz going and working out d-lineman

        • Maggie

          Pretty sure I’ve seen some reports to that effect.

    • Maggie

      Looking at the spider chart, the only areas that dominate are all inherited. The speeds and 3-cone don’t look like anything special. Is all the hype on Evans solely based on his size? Or can he do all the things an elite WR can do even without straight line speed? I mean, I have a brother who is 6’6″, with big hands, who couldn’t catch the football if it was thrown from 20-feet away.

      • southy

        Maggie. Youtube.

  • eaglefansocal

    Sheil, when are you going to make your comparison between all the receivers
    the Eagles might draft?

  • cliff henny

    Pepper needs a new pair of shorts! oh please baby jesus, I need, no I have to see this guy in Midnight green

  • Dante Inked UP Lovings

    It would be dumnb move for many reasons. If there’s a WR you like every round why trade up for one? Plus WR not their biggest need, you lose draft picks in the process when you don’t have many to begin with…NOT WORTH THE RISK!!

  • Tom W

    Nice analysis.

  • NCBiRDMann22

    Your score is: 4755 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 5 (OAK): Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson (A)

    Round 3 Pick 4 (ATL): Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech (A)

    Round 3 Pick 22: Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State (A-)

    Round 4 Pick 3 (ATL): Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech (B-)

    Round 4 Pick 22: Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (B+)

    Round 5 Pick 22: Isaiah Lewis, SS, Michigan State (A)

    Round 7 Pick 20 (OAK): Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma (B-)

    Round 7 Pick 22: Anthony Fera, K, Texas (A)

    • Mikeq

      That would be a nice draft, but when you move from 22 to 5 in the first round, and pick up a 3rd, 4th, and 7th round pick I suspect there is something you are not telling us.

      • NCBiRDMann22

        traded 1st 2014 3rd 2014 1st 2015 to OAK then traded 2nd 22 for ATL 3rd and 4th…not that impossible…no?

        • Mikeq

          I guess that’s not too outlandish, though you still have us using our 3rd round pick instead of shipping it to Oakland.

        • aub32

          yes…yes that is quite impossible. No way any team moves from 22 to 5 and keep their 2nd round pick in this or next year. Plus the 1st next year and another lower round pick.

        • Ringo

          Pretty impossible. No GM would mortgage the future like that.

          • NCBiRDMann22

            Julio Jones…?

          • Ringo

            Sorry I should have said, Since Julio Jones no GM would mortgage their future like that….lol.

            Seriously tho, Its just not worth it.

        • Ian Farley

          using the trade value chart, the 2nd round pick would need to go to oakland. yes a 2015 first is valuable but not as valuable as a 2014 2nd. and a team would do this for sure if they thought highly enough of someone, but i doubt the eagles would do it.

  • Glenn

    I like Evans. But I would not trade up to get him with the wideouts that will be available at 22. I am not sure that Evans will be a better pro than Cooks, where I would be motivated to move up that high, and give up something good. This guy is not a slam dunk like Calvin Johnson.

  • Token

    Saw Lee on that Draft Academy show last night. Seems like a good kid. But man, his lower body looked like two twigs. Not a large build on that kid.

    • Richard Colton

      Pinkston skinny or just regular skinny?

  • Tom W

    Being reported by walter footballl that dee ford is almost universally seen as a second rounder .. guess my draft board wasn’t so crazy.

    http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

    • Javi Echie

      Been saying that for a while. He primarily lined at over the right tackle a majority of the time so I don’t think he’ll favor to good against nfl lts, his size isn’t a fit for what we want, also has close to no experience dropping into coverage, and rarely rushed the passer from the stand up position. Really hope we don’t draft him.

  • Ringo

    If this was one of those drafts in the past when were sitting on 8+picks, then sure. But with 6 picks, I’d say sit tight at 22.

    But make the move after Jun 1st. Dion Jordan for our 1st next yr (Im not letting this one go).

  • Breakerdog

    There won’t be any trading up this year. I think Chip is going to “keep his powder dry” in order to attempt to get his hands on Marcus Mariotta next year.

    • botto

      mariotta isn’t that great at all.
      Foles kills that guy

      • Breakerdog

        Mariotta would have been the #1 QB picked had he come out this year. He is clearly the early favorite for #1 overall next year.
        Given his relationship with Chip, he will be on the top of their board next year with an asterix.

        • Javi Echie

          I am a huge Mariotta fan but no way would I take him over Foles

          • Breakerdog

            Meh. Lets argue about this next year.

        • anon

          Being the no. 1 prospect this year doesn’t mean much. He’s got accuracy issues. And CK doesn’t take EVERYONE that’s played for him.

        • peteike

          I thought he was edging towards top prospect, then Stanford happened, then it went further downhill from there if I recall. Then he decided to stay and most thought it was because his stock fell off a cliff.

        • NickS1

          I’d like to think a guy named Jameis Winston may have something to say about that. You remember him, right? That guy that won the Heisman.

          • Breakerdog

            Winston is very good. Not saying he isn’t and may even get ahead of MM by this time next year. My point is that MM is a lock top 5 right now (fact) in 2015. I think Chip would dearly love to have him back (guess).

          • OldDocRoss

            For us to have any interest in, or realistic shot at getting, Mariotta at least one of three things must happen:

            1. Foles doesn’t play well.
            2. The Eagles lose many football games.
            3. Mariotta’s stock falls significantly.

            As an Eagles fan, I hate the idea of 1 or 2 for obvious reasons, and I hate 3 because I don’t want to spend a decent pick on a guy whose stock has been dropping for 18 months.

            By definition, I nor any other Eagles fan should want us to be in a position where we’re looking to draft Mariotta.

          • NickS1

            Yeah, Winston is a top 5 lock, too, . And if he were draft eligible this year, he’d be riding the national championship momentum to top 5 status this year, very possibly ahead of Mariota, who had some struggles this season. Next year, we’ll see. But while it’s convenient to pull sites that’s prove your point, there are other sites that prove that he may not be the “consensus” #1 pick such as this one: http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2015/ which conveniently picks Winston ahead. I get you like Mariota, there’s a lot to like, but there’s A LOT of things that have to go wrong this year to pick up Mariota next year, as OldDocRoss notes below. Cool the jets, brotha. A lot of time between now and next draft.

          • Michael

            Wasn’t he a Freshman last year? He wouldn’t be eligible for next years draft, or would he be?

          • NickS1

            Pretty sure he was a redshirt freshman.

        • botto

          still no Foles

    • Will

      Given up on Foles already? Too many interceptions for ya?

  • botto

    maybe kelly is smokescreening with the visits. he knows other teams are going to scout what he scouts because he knows the college players better. so he throws a few smokescreens out there so he can get other teams looking the other direction and then picks the guys he wants.
    better be cooks.
    maybe?

  • Nostradamus

    Insider telepathic projection: The Eagles will trade Nick Foles on draft day for a top 3 pick. Select Sammy Watkins and then go on to draft Johnny foosball with the 22nd pick. Calling it!

    • imnotsorryisaidthat

      My mind was read by you sir,but I would throw in Casey

    • Andy124

      Should probably throw in Shady and Chip Kelly too, just to make it fair.

      • Nostradamus

        Please do not mock valid projections as you would ‘mock’ your own draft. This info has been gathered from years of intensive trainings on the intel and workings of one Howard Roseman and Chip Kelly. Please channel me from here on out to further discuss my Intel derived from the etheric plane of consciousness. Thank you!
        -Nos

        • Andy124

          Reasonably amusing. I’ll give it 2 snaps up.

      • Maggie

        Nah. I already traded Shady for the Rams second 1st round pick.

    • Guest4558

      Nostradumbass

      • Nostradamus

        I love you!

    • peteike

      Johnny Foosball, ha, love it. Typo?

    • botto

      i’d have to quit the eagles

  • ryyndynyyls

    What’s everybody’s take on trading away a combo of two picks from next year’s draft (2nd & 6th or 5th?) to acquire another pick in the 2nd this year? Given the sheer, retarded number of redshirted players this year, it stands to reason that next year’s class will be substantially less exciting…

    If we somehow wrangled an extra 2nd this year we could be a lock for Allen Robinson AND Attaochu/Bucannon/Ward or whichever BPA defensive player has inexplicably fallen in the second after going strong defensive BPA in the first round. Not seeing how next year’s draft could possibly be as good as this year’s.

    Plus, given how fiscally responsible we were in FA this year our cap figure going into Free Agency next year will be really healthy, and we could certainly fill holes and add depth with what we’ll roll over from this year to make up for the lost selections in the draft…

    Seems like if there’s a draft to scramble for MORE picks in (as opposed to these silly trade up for Evans questions), it’d be this one.

  • oreofestar

    WE OPen up against the Jags lol

  • NCBiRDMann22

    Cowboys and Birds Thanksgiving! Some Turkey bird to go with the birds whipping Cowboy A**!!