Eagles Wake-Up Call: How Foles Can Improve

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After the Eagles beat the Bears last season, right tackle Lane Johnson was asked to recall if he’d ever seen Nick Foles frustrated on the field.

“Usually he’s pretty calm,” Johnson said. “I know when we played Detroit, Coach [Bill] Lazor was going up to him telling him he was babying the ball, and they got into kind of an altercation because you couldn’t throw the ball too hard because it was so hard to see, so hard to catch and throw [in the snow]. So that’s probably one time.”


Posed with the same question, multiple other Eagles offensive players said they simply could not provide an example. They had nothing.

It's one of Foles' biggest strengths and something that Chip Kelly values: the QB's inclination to stay even-keeled regardless of the circumstances. In the first meeting against the Cowboys last season, Foles had the worst game of his career and got knocked out with a concussion. The next time he stepped onto the field, he fired seven touchdowns in Oakland and took off on one of the more improbable runs by a QB in recent memory.

So what will Foles do for an encore? He's coming off a 29 touchdown/2 INT performance in which he completed 64 percent of his passes and averaged 9.12 yards per attempt. Foles' 119.2 passer rating is third-best in a single season in NFL history.

But there are changes on the way in 2014. For starters, he'll now be working with his third different QB coach in as many years as Bill Musgrave takes over for Lazor. And from a personnel standpoint, Foles will be without DeSean Jackson. He'll have Jeremy Maclin and Darren Sproles at his disposal instead.

"Everything. And I think Nick’ll tell you the same thing," said Kelly last month when asked what the QB can improve on. "...I think the big thing with Nick, just like the other guys I talked to, Year 1 for a lot of those guys was just getting all the terminology down, learning if it’s this play, do this. Now it’s the intricacies of it, exactly what is my footwork, how is my ball-handling, how can I do a better job when I don’t have the ball, how can I do a better job with faking, what can I do to influence, now I understand what the coverage is, but how can I influence it? Or how can I move the safety? Because I really want to throw the post, but instead of just going, 'Hey the safety’s on the post, I gotta throw the checkdown.' Now what are the little, teeny intricacies of the game?

"And that’s the one thing about Nick that’s so encouraging is he always wants to get better. And he was constantly doing it. I think he improved as the season went along. And a lot of times you’ll see some players kind of plateau, but I think he continued to improve and I think we’re all hopeful. But knowing his work ethic, in Year 2, he’s gonna make a lot of improvement."

From a numbers standpoint, chances are Foles will probably regress. The pace he kept up in 2013 is likely unsustainable. But as Kelly pointed out, the expectation is that his overall quality of play will improve.

For example, there were times last year on packaged plays where Foles made the wrong read. He was sometimes hesitant with the ball and took sacks. And the goal for all of the Eagles returning players will be to go faster when the offense is in its tempo package.

The offseason program (closed to the media) began on Monday. There will be no QB competition this spring and summer, but all eyes will be on No. 9 to see where he can take his game in 2014.

WHAT YOU MISSED

T-Mac introduces a late round pick who could interest the Eagles: Wisconsin NT Beau Allen.

My breakdown of Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin as a potential fit for the Eagles.

Evan  Mathis was in the house Monday as the Eagles began offseason workouts.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz chimes in on some cornerback prospects:

The 2nd round player I like is Bashaud Breeland from Clemson. He ran 4.62 at the Combine and re-timed 4.57 at his Pro Day. That hurts his value since he’s only 5-11, 197. He does have 31 3/4 arms. Breeland is quick, agile and has very good feet. He has outstanding ball skills. That’s something the Eagles value. They like a CB who can knock the ball away in the air. They teach very specific techniques for this. Breeland does it naturally, but could get even better with good coaching.

Breeland plays right, left and in the slot. That’s the kind of versatility the Eagles value. He will hit and tackle. He was booted from the FSU game for hitting Jameis Winston in the head. You don’t like that, but at least there is no hesitation before contact. If Breeland was a hair faster, he could be a 1st round player. His lack of long speed is an issue on deep routes. Breeland excels when allowed to press and be physical with receivers.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com mocks Ohio State CB Bradley Roby to the Eagles:

Roby is a talented cover man with the speed, athleticism and movement skills to thrive in an aggressive scheme.

COMING UP

We'll take a look at Oregon State WR Brandin Cooks.

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  • NickS1

    I’m going to go conservative and predict Foles goes 46/5 this year.

    • G_WallyHunter

      5? That’s a little high don’t you think?
      I was thinking 3 and a lost fumble when Mathis gives up effort on a long 3rd down, letting a man through to force a fumble..

      • NickS1

        I almost said 7. 20 minutes later I realized I missed a great opportunity at a Tool reference and should have said Forty-Six & Two.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Touche lol, great damn tune

    • cliff henny

      46, sounds about right. that’ll be issue being up 45-17 midway thru 3rd, FOles wont get to toss many 4th Q TDs

      • NickS1

        Nope. I would have said more but I’m thinking our running game gets us 20+

  • Uncle Wonder

    Young Lane might wanna put a muzzle on that mouth and give the stock “I don’t think so” from now on…the media loves to grab onto non stories and make them an issue. I can already see Florio’s headline. “Nick Foles ran QB coach out of Philly!”

  • PhillySean

    One number I’ll be trying to monitor is seconds from snap to pass attempt. I think I read that Chip Kelly is looking for that measure to be around 1.5 seconds if I recall correctly.

    On a side note, that reminds me of Buddy Ryan’s expectation for his defensive players to get to opposing QBs.

    • Kev_H

      I don’t see that as necessarily being a useful measure here. Last year they went deep in the passing game a lot. In the article, Kelly is talking about Foles influencing defenders rather than settle for the quick check down. Settling on a check down would make your snap-to-release stat look good, but Kelly wants the QB to stick with the deep patterns and make plays.

      • knighn

        You are correct. Also see my response to PhillySean.

    • knighn

      That 1.5 seconds might have been useful in the NCAA but it simply doesn’t work in the NFL.
      This Pro Football Focus Article is from late 2012 but it pretty clearly illustrates the point – the QB with the quickest “Time To Throw”, Tom Brady, still averaged 2.49 seconds. That said, I’m sure if you look at Foles “Time To Throw” from 2013 he probably needs to get much, much quicker…. which is typical of younger QBs.

      • anon

        Yeah oddly we lambasted Vick for that – though he was visibily bad at anticipation throws. I honestly think getting rid of djax will help. People fall in love with that big play that he can make and so you end up just waiting for him to get open.

        • knighn

          There was frustration with Vick on a lot of levels:
          - Experienced QB with a longer Time To Throw (If Foles is consistently averaging over 3 seconds a throw after 10 years in the NFL, there will definitely be a large degree of furstration with Foles)
          - Took a lot of sacks (see Time to Throw)
          - It also appeared that Vick often ignored the shorter routes just waiting for the bomb to develop
          - And Vick did not initially seem to fit Chip Kelly’s offensive philosophy (Time To Throw)

          However, as Vick fans have pointed out, not all of this should be put on Vick. Vick, with his mobility, often tried to extend plays… and that often leads to longer “Time To Throw” which seems more common among some of the more mobile QBs. Then: Andy Reid, above all else, loved those deep routes. Reid was the main influence a both the good and bad of the Eagles offense through 2012.

          • anon

            I think the biggest frustration with Vick was the turnovers that continually killed games, year after year — it got old (along with him constantly getting hurt). The anticipation throwing point is a very valid criticism of him, something i dind’t really even notice until last year (I am a vick fan).

          • aub32

            I think too much was made of the turnovers. I get they are bad, and he had to be better at protecting the ball, but there were a lot of players guilty of turnovers. The guy moved the chains and put up points. His line was nowhere near as good as the projected 2014 line. His frailty was the nail in the coffin for me though. He can’t miss 3-5 games a year and be a starting QB for my team.

          • Joe from Easton

            I understand there are a lot of variables involved in a turnover however for a few years running he was somewhere in the order of one turnover per TD. I don’t think one can justify that extensive of a track record by identifying mitigating circumstances.

          • aub32

            Again, I look at how the entire team produced turnovers as a whole. The last two years of AR were full of turnovers by Vick, Shady, Brown, Mac, Avant, Celeck, Foles, and Jackson. There was no accountability on this team. Look at the difference in turnovers when Kelly came in. Do you think that was all on Foles? Foles had nothing to do with the RBs not fumbling or the WRs holding onto the ball while getting yards after the catch. Vick was the whipping boy of the fans, but the coaching was awful. 2011 would have been completely different if we had an actual DC and decisions like relying on Casey Matthews to start the season as the MLB were never made. I agree that Vick was too reckless with the ball, but a lot of good QBs are, especially those with mobility and huge arms. Though I think his turnovers would have been an afterthought had we been winning games 28-24, instead of having a porous defense that couldn’t help their QB out even once in those 5 4th quarter losses.

          • Maggie

            Many upvotes. All the people constantly knocking Vick still wanted those 60-yard bombs every play. As you say, especially the HC and OC.

          • knighn

            It’s the typical catch-22 with strong and mobile QBs. You think Peyton Manning would be as good as he is with his anticipation if he was more mobile and had more of a cannon?!
            There is typically a trade-off. There a very few Steve Youngs in the history of the NFL.
            I think Vick will do OK for himself with the Jets this year… as long as he stays healthy. That is the ultimate caveat for the 34 year-old QB, especially one with a long injury history.

        • knighn

          Oh… and expect at least one or more decent WRs on the roster with sub 4.4 time this season. The Eagles didn’t cut DeSean Jackson because he was fast.
          The deep throw may not be as big a part of the O this year, but it will be there…. big time.

        • peteike

          ya but djax also got separation downfield and made a lot big plays via comeback routes. That will be missed but I also know the over the top stuff and other underneath routes wont just disappear. The stellar run game will always open that stuff up regardless of whos outside at WR or TE

        • Maggie

          Totally agree on the “love” for the big play. So many people don’t appreciate the 5 or 8 yard ‘matriculation’ down the field. They are too addicted to the 3-second sound bites and quick adrenalin rush they see everywhere else. A big play down the field is what Marty and Andy were trying to do on every second play and we saw how that worked out. Chip seems to value a few yards here and there, with the big play a couple of times a game. Even today, that is STILL the winning formula. Oh, and a very good D.

  • Shawn Williams

    I think this season we will see Nick Foles become more of a complete QB.

    • aub32

      I hope so.

      • Joe from Easton

        As people have already been saying; I don’t see how, in a vacuum, Foles really doesn’t progess.

        The numbers will probably regress, but his play should only get better based on things we have seen. Maybe the offense regresses because of the Jackson loss, but then that does not indicate a regression in Foles’ play.

        His style of play is in the mold of great QB’s. I don’t see him as a flash in the pan sort of player that DC’s catch up with because he’s a one trick pony. There is no defense that can cover the entire field all of the time and a QB that can read and react well will find the hole in said defense.

        • aub32

          Unfortunately we have only seen Foles take advantage of mediocre and bad defenses. His play certainly seemed to dip against the Saints. He will play more good defenses this year. There is a chance that he gets exposed in areas of his game that poorer defenses lacked the ability to take advantage.

          • Joe from Easton

            I wouldn’t say Tampa’s defense was bad when he lit them up. I also wouldn’t sneeze at putting up 24 points in a playoff game against one of the better defenses in the NFL considering it was his first start. He threw for 70% completion, 200 yds, and 2 TD’s with 0 picks.

            I’m not anointing Foles by any stretch. I just think a second year QB who broke some, tied some, and came close to some NFL records during his first year in a complicated system should get more due than some are willing to give.

            One game could be an anomaly, maybe two even, but 9-2 as a starter with numbers like that don’t happen by accident or because a defense was bad. Bad defenses suit up every Sunday, every year, and QB’s don’t do what Foles did.

          • aub32

            You made some fair points. I do think he deserves plenty of credit for the year he had. I do disagree with your TB point though. The talent on their defense was good. However, they did a terrible job coaching. They say in zone most of the game despite getting picked apart. 24 points is nothing to sneeze at against a top defense, but you can’t rely on a team to lose it’s 2 starting safeties to do so. Foles struggled before Jenkins went out, and the Saints were already playing without Vacarro. The defense put the offense in position to have control of that game before halftime. Foles came up short in my opinion.

          • Joe from Easton

            Fair enough.

  • myeaglescantwin

    Correct me if i’m wrong, but this is the first time since his high school that he has had the same OC in two consecutive years. He had the coaches carousel in college, and then Andy & chip.

    this is the kid’s third year. I think fans forget that a lot. I do think that Foles will improve, but to think he’s going for 27 & 2 each year is a little naive.

    I do trust that Chipper will focus the ground game and put Foles in the best positions to make plays. I don’t care if we have a game manager, as long as they are managing wins.

  • cliff henny

    FOles is always left out of the discussion when talking about ’13 vs ’14 record/season. if he makes same jump from 2nd to 3rd year as he did from 1st to 2nd, look out. it’s little difficult to complain about 29/2 and being led to division title, but he left a ton of plays out on the field, and in a way, that’s kind of great. switching qbs, playing with wrong pieces and hard to believe much more than 1/3 of the playbook, the offense stalled more because of own fault than defenses making plays. when I hear people talk about FOles play regressing, sounds to like they are expecting for him to get dumber, and that’s not going to happen. Kelly and crew have 6 months to get his physicals to catch up to his mental side, and if that happens, good luck stopping offense.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Bingo exactemon, can’t say better myself, and upvote for continuing Johnny Gs famous auto-correct in his memory.

      • Maggie

        Not sure I understand your bromance with the person you repeatedly mention, but auto-correct CAN be overcome.

    • NickS1

      Of course FOles is always left out of discussion. The only thing that matters is that we don’t have a certain receiver, which will clearly be the only factor in how the season plays out, even though we already know it’s over before it ever began solely because of his absence.

    • aub32

      I think Foles’ regression is a very real possibility. I do not expect him to get dumber. I don’t think anyone thinks that. I do expect teams to study him though. I also expect that facing CAR, SEA, and SF will be much harder than the defenses he faced last season. I expect him to miss DJax who he had extrodinary chemistry with last year. There are legit reasons to believe he will have some hard times in 2014. I don’t think he will suck. He is a legit starting QB in this league. I just don’t know if expecting him to improve or even repeat his 2013 performance is realistic.

      • oreofestar

        You see I think his numbers will not be quite as pretty I believe but I think his overall play will be better after another year in the year he will take less sacks I hope work on some parts and while his INTs may go up I think he will improve I am thinking 34/8 for him

        • aub32

          Foles doesn’t have to put up huge numbers to impress me this year. I just want to see him play well in big games. He had his 2 best games when there was very little pressure. However, he did not play so well in either of the Cowboy matchups or against the Saints.

          • oreofestar

            I agree that is a bit of a concern to me as well…we will just have to see I am not sure how he will do in those situtation but I think his overall game will improve and not regress its his 3rd year he is getting a 2nd year in this offense with what I think is a better arsenal than last year

          • aub32

            I will have to see what we get in the draft before I can say he has better weapons than last year. I would take DJax over Mac any day. Sproles is a nice piece, but he’s still just a backup. Plus, who is our #3 WR? I think many people are just assuming everyone will be better their second year in this offense. I hope so, but I also think defenses will be a little better prepared to face Chip. I also, think fans are a bit too dismissive that Mac is coming back from a major knee surgery. He wasn’t a #1 guy before the surgery. He failed to put up 1000 yards with DJax beside him. Can he do it now next to Cooper?

          • oreofestar

            I am assuming with some drafted guys contributing and being nice pieces the dev. of Ertz, Sprles and Mac will beat out what is lost with Desean and in turn make the offense better

          • usmcnole

            Aside from his rookie year, mac played on bad eagle teams with bad qb play and still played pretty solid. If his knee is ok then he should play like a #1 this year

          • Andy124

            You know, sometimes guys do better because they have a good weapon opposite them. Sometimes guys do better when they’re more of the focus and get more targets.

            How’s this one for you, if both players stay healthy, I think Maclin will have better numbers than DeSean this year. I’ll think Jeremy will look better than we’ve ever seen him and change a couple people’s minds about him.

            As for assuming everyone will be better in their second year, it’s not a given, but it’s more likely than not.

            I mean, is Foles regressing a possibility? Sure. But what’s more likely for a 3rd year player in his second year in a system, progression or regression? I don’t think it’s very debatable which is more likely.

          • ochospantalones

            Comparing Maclin and Jackson’s numbers this year is a bit loaded in favor of Maclin. Maclin plays for an infinitely better coach, with a more accurate QB, a better offensive line, and will be the undisputed top receiver. Jackson has to play for Gruden the Lesser on a team that will likely run a lot, and he’s splitting targets with Pierre Garcon, who is far far better than Riley Cooper. So yeah, Jackson’s numbers will dip from his production last year, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t out produce Maclin if he were still an Eagle.

          • Andy124

            I don’t disagree with that actually. Those are all large factors in my “bold prediciton”.

          • peteike

            compare Maclin this season to Djax last season, there you go

          • aub32

            In that case, I do not predict Mac will have the production that we saw from DJax in 2013. Nor will we see his play open the field for others as much as Jackson did.

          • peteike

            ya thats a high bar for sure. I think Maclin can do some other things better but remains to be seen how he comes back from injury. That and how he performs in this scheme, which made everyone better, QB, RB, WRs TEs Oline

          • cliff henny

            might be little unfair cause sure ball will be spread around more too. if Kelly can make Cooper look like legit #2, I pretty certain he’ll figure a way to minimize losing Jax thru Mac, sproles and couple draft picks

          • aub32

            I never said Mac wouldn’t produce, if healthy. I was addressing the direct comparison of Jackson to Maclin. The offense has options, though it lacks depth at WR and has question marks at a couple of spots.

          • cliff henny

            yup, meant pro or con comparison. different year, different offense. i’d rather have jax than not and no picks, but also think offense will be fine. doubt Mac will have touches or targets Jax got in ’13.

          • travis papa

            Say Maclin has a 1000 yd 8td yr then Sproles has 500yds & 5tds plus a rookie has 600yds and 4tds that would far exceed djax and avant being here. We have to look at Maclin and Sproles as 1 replacing djax production and a rookie replacing avant’s.

          • aub32

            Foles isn’t the only factor here though. Foles, in a vacuum, will most likely get better. I agree there. However, his play does have a lot to do with the weapons at his disposal and his competition. The Redskins and Giants have improved, on paper. The NFCW is the toughest division in the league. The Panthers have a beastly front 7. They will all have the offseason to study Foles and Kelly’s scheme. Foles also had a 70+ completion percentage to DJax. That’s fantastic. There’s no guarantee he and Mac will work as well together. So I am not saying Foles will not get better in the system. I am saying that his improvement may not be enough to counter the opposing factors. The media will then say he regressed in order to simplify the explanation I just gave you as to why we may see Foles fail to look as good as he did in 2013.

          • Andy124

            Fair enough. Of course, we can’t even get everyone to agree on how good he looked in 2013, so I doubt we’ll establish a consensus on how he looks in comparison to 2013 since we’ll have people with varying opinions on 2 years instead of just the 1.

          • aub32

            I think 2014 will provide clarity for what we saw in 2013. If Foles succeeds then 2013 will be viewed as the first great season of a young budding QB on the verge of taking the league by storm. If Foles struggles in 2014, then fans will points out how Foles was heavily aided by the best run game in the league and an innovative coach in Chip Kelly while he picked on terrible teams and struggled in high pressure games.

          • Andy124

            In theory, absolutely. But unless 2014 is overwhelmingly good or bad, people won’t agree on whether it’s good or bad, and therefore, won’t agree on how it reflects on 2013.

          • aub32

            I didn’t realize there was a middle with Eagles’ fans. I figured the season had to be either fantastic or horrendous.

          • Andy124

            You’re an Eagles fan.

          • aub32

            True, and I thought last year was fantastic overall. I was disappointed at the ending, but the team exceeded my expectations, which I personally considered high.

          • Kev_H

            Maclin was putting up solid numbers in 2012 when Jackson and McCoy were out. He clearly feels that his own versatility led Reid and Marty to scheme around getting the most of Jackson’s relatively one-dimensional talents while letting Maclin fill in with what was needed.

          • Maggie

            The Eagles seem to feel comfortable with Maclin on the field, considering that they offered him a longer contract.

          • Maggie

            Something left out of this discussion so far, the Oline. They had such an excellent year I’d be more concerned about some of them regressing, or at least being injured.

          • Amar (India)

            He had plenty pressure during both, Oakland and the Chicago games. These were both at critical points. We beat Oakland after they torched Pittsburgh and we played the Bears after being torched by the Vikings.

      • Kev_H

        He went up against two of the top defenses last year (ARI and NO) and the results weren’t too shabby. Completed 66% of his passes for 5 TDs and 0 INTs for 432 yards total. He didn’t torch them through the air, but he didn’t struggle and put up enough points to keep his team in the games and did a lot better than most QBs against those two squads.

        • aub32

          Both of those teams had key losses in the secondary before Foles went on to put up numbers. Foles struggled mightily against NO before their starting safety got hurt. ARZ lost a really good CB in the game against them. The numbers when combined look much better than the actual performance. Also, Foles got away with 2 potential INTs against ARZ. One was defended perfectly by Jackson. The other was called back due to a penalty that had nothing to do with the play. The latter of which would have likely resulted in a Eagles loss.

      • Amar (India)

        His numbers..without doubt…will be the best in NFC East, as we all play NFC West. I think that is the only thing that matters Sep-Dec. In the playoffs, its anybody’s game.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Great read, all I can say is, CAN’T WAIT!!
    When Chip talks about the whole year 1 and year 2 progression learning all the intricacies and making this system click even better, not just for Foles but that goes for all 22 players, doesn’t it just get u all giddy?

    • Andy124

      100%
      Chip brining the giddies like it’s his job.

      • Maggie

        Sorry, but is Chip making pickles?

    • EaglefaninAZ

      Most prevalent comment from my friends after the last game in ’13 was “Wow. Next year is gonna be nuts”.

  • cliff henny

    and it’s spelled FOles…RIP Johnny Geagle, wherever you are posting…please tell me it’s Philly.com, be fun to read his off-meds rants on those trolls

    • G_WallyHunter

      Any chance there’s an article on the release of Johnny G from the message board?

      • cliff henny

        how funny would that be if Sheil and/or TIm wrote an article explaining why such a prolific poster, with well above average knowledge, yet little hot headed and probably to confrontational had to be released.

        • aub32

          A little hot headed?

          • cliff henny

            could tell the days when he either forgot meds, or needed to visit docs to get his dosage reevaluated. but, I liked him, had no problem with him. though I argue all day every day in job, not arguing here

          • aub32

            I didn’t mind when he kept things related to football, but I will not miss his holier than thou attitude nor his profane use of the English language. I’m glad to know that speaking that way to others will not be tolerated on this site. Other sites have just let their comment section go wild.

          • oreofestar

            Hell nah cursing is beast I miss the guy no doubt he was hot headed the language stuff does not bother me but when it came to football he knew what he talking about the most the time and brought more to the table than most of us in that regard

          • Maggie

            Not so sure about the football stuff either. Knowledgeable about possible draft picks, except for insisting that there was NO WAY some player would be traded or drafted, snarking anyone who had another opinion, then 2 weeks later insisting that the same player would POSITIVELY BE traded or drafted.
            The personal attacks based on difference of opinion are one thing. Personal attacks based on gender are just as bad as those based on race.

          • Max Lightfoot

            IMO he seemed to be a combination of both a paranoid and a bully, which I didn’t think was possible.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Can’t disagree with you here, sometimes just needed to pipe it down

          • EaglefaninAZ

            Maybe just time for another break. Very early on in this blog’s existence, I had emailed Sheil regarding issues I was having with G’s posts. My only complaint was the language. For me it’s boring and can get in the way of making a good point, rather then accentuating it. Sheil wrote back to me that they’d had other complaints. He was gone from these boards for a couple of weeks, and upon his return, the transformation was obvious and impressive. I haven’t had an issue since, although I haven’t been checking the comments much in the last few weeks. Saw a couple of G’s comments on Philly.com the last week or so,but didn’t see any raving. Guessing he went off the rails again here? He often had a lot to offer, aside from being a bit “wordy”. Oy vey… and look at this post, huh? Lol…

          • aub32

            I have been off and on in the past couple of weeks, but I know a week or two back he went nuts with the foul language toward me and maybe Adam. His posts had very little do with football and were just straight personal attacks. I don’t know the guy. So I don’t care outside of the fact it’s annoying and just not what I come here for.

          • knighn

            Exactly. He had great football knowledge but was a little too quick with the personal attacks.
            I am likely giving T Lawlor too much credit, but the guy is a master at avoiding the personal attacks. The guy has more football knowledge in his left pinky fingernail than most people have in their whole brains and he still keeps his cool enough to restrain himself from giving football fools the epic beatdowns that they deserve.
            GEagle needs to avoid the attacks. It takes away from the high value that he adds to these boards.

          • aub32

            I don’t even mind giving someone a beatdown. However there’s a point where a line must be drawn. Some people don’t mind the cursing stuff one bit. For me, it takes away all the fun. It’s hard to read through football points when I have to sift through all the other stuff. You can disagree with someone without result to such base language.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Might have been his ties to philly.com or igglesblitz that put the nail in the coffin

        • mksp

          “well above average knowledge”

          LOL.

    • Maggie

      He’s at Igglesblitz.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      igglesblitz. he lives.

  • Shawn Williams

    Didn’t Foles say he would be working on his speed in the off season. If he can put it all together look out

  • Yes_General

    An improved Defense can also help Nick Foles

    • knighn

      Truth. Give the offense more time with the ball… more opportunities to score.

  • Kev_H

    I think Foles has shown the make up of a 4th quarter comeback guy. I was impressed by the 2012 game against Washington where he brought them back playing with a broken hand. Some fan that they let play TE dropped the game tying TD though. I expect to see a few exciting last second comebacks in 2014.

    • sprawl

      Whenever I hear somebody complain about overpaying James Casey for his role last season I think of that dropped pass.

      • aub32

        You mean the same one Casey had in the game against SD?

  • anon

    I’d like to see him become more of a leader now that he’s the QB. You can see that RW oozes leadership and commitment — i think that’s the biggest thing i’d like to see from foles, we know he can throw. be nice if he took the WRs / Sproles to AZ for some practice time…like RW or Peyton does

  • oreofestar

    Foles 59TD / 2INT

  • sprawl

    Hearing about Foles losing it a little bit in that Detroit game makes me wonder what it must’ve been like to be on the sidelines with Stafford during that one… definitely got some good .gifs on the field

  • knighn

    What I expect from Foles in 2014:
    A few more TDs
    Quicker Release
    Fewer Deep Throws
    Fewer Sacks
    A few more INTs

    I’m actually thinking around the lines of 36 TDs and 8 INTs.

    Overall his stats and QB rating may not be as good as last year but I expect Foles to be a better all-around QB.

    • oreofestar

      Bingo I 100% agree

    • mtn_green

      This. I think he will have more faith in trusting what he sees and releasing the ball earlier and being a little more aggressive with the throws. Which means more ints and more TD. But it means more wins.

      Opposing defenses are really going to be in the crucible, last year Foles was an after thought. This year there will be more emphasis on Foles and how successful he was, or is the emphasis on McCoy and his success? Oh boy they’re in trouble.

      • Warhound

        Yeah, and I think he’ll be better at throwing the ball away when nothing is there – rather than taking a sack.

        • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

          Thats his biggest weakness IMO. Lost us the Saints game and nearly Dallas as well. I’m certain that’s a point of emphasis this off season.

  • Mark F

    Rookie (Lane Johnson): blah, blah, blah, blah
    Vets: Uh-uh…nope…nothin’
    LOL.

  • eaglefansocal

    I agree with many on this board, I think Foles greatest improvement will definitely be getting rid of the ball quicker and taking less sacks. If he gets rid of the ball quicker I think that will help the ground game as well. The linemen will have more energy to block for runs when they don’t have to hold their blocks so long for passing plays.

    • Maggie

      “For example, there were times last year on packaged plays where Foles made the wrong read. He was sometimes hesitant with the ball and took sacks.”
      “I think he continued to improve and I think we’re all hopeful. But knowing his work ethic, in Year 2, he’s gonna make a lot of improvement.”

      Enough said.

  • mtn_green

    I see Kelly changing the scheme slightly:
    -highly accurate QB that makes ‘touch’ passes, throws to spots, back shoulder throws. Can’t even be a legitimate threat to run.
    -best RB in league, really excels in space can always make one defender miss.
    -strong healthy fast OL.
    -taller wr that run good routes, not fast.
    -TE that runs routes like a wr and can get contested catches and circus catches.
    -fast RB that can run all the slot routes well, will get yac.

    Not sure what it all adds up to. The ‘touch’ passes makes think of the Bill Walsh west coast offense, the OL and McCoy strengths remind me of zone read, maybe with Sproles misdirection threat rather than Foles. Ertz makes me think of a transformation to the K-Gun buffalo bills offense, in line TE, and four verticals.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    The kid had the ability to be very good for a long time. His best attribute is his mind. You’ve seen me post on a few occasions how I think Kelly will look for another QB, but that’s more a commentary on chip not Foles. Chip would be foolish to do anything but commit 100% to the kid. 2014 is a year Nick needs to use to solidify his rank among the league’s elite and silence the critics for once and for all.

    • NickS1

      They will not be silenced until his 40-time is under 4.7

      • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

        They better catch him on 76 heading to the games. Or racing Kelce for the last Fig & Alfalfa smoothie.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I don’t think you can really weigh Foles ’14 season against his ’13 season. He was just on a roll that I don’t think it’s fair to expect him to replicate or surpass. To me, the two biggest numbers were his passer rating and total QBR. Those were just astronomical for a 2nd yr QB. I do expect to see better overall execution & consistency, “smarter” play (ie; less sacks), raising the bar in big games & rallying his troops by taking ownership of being the leader of the offense and ultimately the team. I do get a feeling that Nick has been working on not only his understanding of the playbook, but also his arm strength/velocity, and his running. Not like I expect him to become some track star or a Favre-like cannon, but I do expect him to be a little faster both running and throwing.