Eagles Wake-Up Call: Sproles And the Age Factor

NFL: NFC Wildcard Playoff-New Orleans Saints at Philadelphia Eagles

On the surface, the why associated with last month’s trade for Darren Sproles is easily answered.

Chip Kelly loves players who are capable of performing a variety of tasks. As we showed with the All-22, Sproles fits the bill. He can carry the ball, he can catch the ball, and he can serve as a return man. He can line up in the backfield, in the slot and even out wide.


While it's clear he's capable of doing different things, the question is: Can he still do those things at a high level?

Sproles turns 31 in June. At the owners meetings, Kelly said the Eagles took that into consideration, but ultimately decided Sproles was worth a fifth-round pick.

"I think age is a factor when you look at guys, but I think it’s more of a guideline in kind of what they do," Kelly said. "The biggest thing for us is the production when you turn the tape on. But I don’t think you can blindly say that this guy’s this age so he’s done. When you look at how they perform, I think Jason Peters is a prime example of that. We watched how he performed this year. And I thought it was really important that we bring Jason back.

"There are some guys when they get to 31, the wheels just fall off, and there are other people who can continue to go. Some guys play later into their career. It’s certainly something you look at. You look at a 21-year-old different than you look at a 31-year-old. But we’re also looking to play next year and the next year. Is Darren gonna be there in 2020? I don’t know about that. But I think for what we needed at this point in time, I think that addition and really what the cost was… really the value for me… if Darren Sproles was available in the fifth round of this draft, would you take him? Heck yeah. So that’s kind of how I looked at that."

If 25-year-old Sproles was available in the fifth-round, he'd obviously be a steal. But 31-year-old Sproles might yield a different answer from teams around the league.

Said ESPN analyst Louis Riddick: "There are some down there in New Orleans who thought Darren's best days were long behind him and the wall was approaching faster than outsiders think. They made a calculated bet, and we'll see which team is right there. You just know the Saints know more about him than anybody else knows about him."

Sproles is not going to be an every-down player for the Eagles. And while the Kelly and Howie Roseman wouldn't go into detail, it's clear they believe strongly that their sports science program might be able to help veterans. Guys like Trent Cole (31) and Brent Celek (29) said last year they felt better than ever before.

Roseman also noted that Sproles' style alleviated some of the Eagles' concerns about his age.

"We do feel like because of the way he’s gotten his touches, more in space than around the line of scrimmage, so hit more by linebackers and defensive backs than by big 300-pound linemen, that certainly helps him," Roseman said. "And then hopefully just implementing him in our program and the things that we’re doing will also help."

Sproles has been durable throughout his career, having missed only four games in the past six seasons. But looking just at statistics, there are signs that he is slowing down a bit. He averaged 4.2 YPC in 2013 and had just one run of 20+ yards in 53 attempts. And he averaged just 6.7 yards per punt return (20th).

As we've written previously, Sproles' greatest value comes as a receiver. And the Eagles saw enough on film to be convinced that he can make an impact.

"We just felt like the value to our team in Darren was worth the price," Roseman said. "And we understood that if we didn’t do it, maybe there were other options for him. There were other teams interested. And so at that point it was just: Do we want the player or not? We wanted the player and we felt it was something that we needed to do at the time."

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Brian Dawkins offers his take on Jackson.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Bob Ford of the Inquirer weighs in on Jackson:

We still don't know exactly why the Eagles released DeSean Jackson last week, and we might never know. The convenient timing of the story that alleged a growing organizational concern about Jackson's gang ties - a concern that doesn't seem to be shared by the police - and the lockdown silence from the NovaCare bunker since his release, make for easy two-plus-two math: Boy, there must be a whole lot more going on and they just can't talk about it.

Well, there better be a lot more going on, otherwise the perception the Eagles have allowed to take root concerning Jackson is a poor reflection on the character of the organization. For that answer, we have to wait.

Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz writes about what Kelly might be looking for in a wide receiver:

I think one of the key traits Kelly will focus on is RAC ability. You need players who can catch short passes and then make something happen. This is where quickness and elusiveness can be just as important as speed. A fast receiver can run by players. Someone who is quick and elusive can catch the ball in traffic and then make guys miss. That’s critical with the amount of quick screens the Eagles throw to WRs. You need players who can turn nothing into something.

COMING UP

Seems like a good time to start digging deep into draft conversation.

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  • Glenn

    I know alot of people are excited about Sproles. He would have been a salary cap casualty, and the Saints know his best days are behind him. The Saints are very happy they got a 5th round pick out of him. We get nothing for DeSean, and we give them a 5th round pick for a guy who everyone knew was going to get cut. The Saints did a good job of playing the Eagles. Sproles will be a decent third down back for pass receptions for one more year. He will be a nonfactor in the return game. Eagles should have kept Jackson until during or after the draft, where they may have had a chance to get compensation from a team that did not get what they wanted out of the draft. There was nothing to gain by cutting him when they did.

    • TNA

      I think the point is that we have no idea what the eagles Gaines by cutting him and we’ll likely never know unless something comes out externally to the Eagles. Everything else is conjecture.
      Sproles = backfield/slot Welker. In terms of beating man coverage in short yardage space, Eagles have no one better. His footwork is impeccable and will be a huge asset in goal line situations.

    • GEAGLE

      There is NO WAY we were going to get sproles without giving up a pick. He wasnt going to be released because there was a market for him, so we did what we had to, to secure him, it was a really solid move, and adding such a weapon is bigtime

      • Javi Echie

        And I still don’t get what ppl don’t understand that there WASN’T A TRADE MARKET for desean like why is that so hard for ppl like this kid to understand

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          It’s frustrating.

        • GEAGLE

          Lol most likely has to do with our stupid media brainwashing fans…like we,cant stick a gun to teams heads and force them to give up a pick for Desean lol

          The only part that bothers me, is That when we were trying to trade Desean, i bet we didnt talk to the skins, cowboys or Giants…yes it wpuld look bad if we traded a probowl in his prime to a division rival, but you were going to look bad in the eyes of the fans anyway when u decided that a fan favorite wasnt going to be on the roster next year…if we have to watch a quality fan,favorite go help out our rival, i would have prefered weakening them by taking one of their few picks…

          I mean we are talking about the IDIOT owner. I simply dont believe that, the stupid Skins owner would have let a draft pick stand in the way of aquiring D-Shawn….bothers me that we didnt take a pick from them

          • Jerry Pomroy

            DeSean wasn’t willing to restructure because he wanted another signing bonus and more guaranteed money. Plain and simple, he forced the Eagles hand there in making it difficult to trade him. It’s quite possible that he wanted to get released to negotiate for that guaranteed money if he wasn’t gonna get it here. Hell for all we know, he & Segal could’ve been the driving force behind the NJ.com article.

            It’s over and done with for now. And we’ll eventually have some skeletons come out of the closet in the future to discuss again. But now is not that time.

        • jabostick

          I get that there wasn’t a market for him, especially after the media went wild. But what was the rush then? It’s possible that a market could’ve developed during/after the draft. If not, you’re in no different of a spot than you are now.

          And if the argument is that it is a cloud hanging over the organization to have this ongoing story about DeSean, well, the Eagles silence has led to an ongoing story about DeSean anyway.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        truth

    • anon

      Sproles is perfect for the system; great hands, can run routes, adds a solid vet presence which we don’t have at offensive skill positions. His contract was manageable so people wanted him. He clearly likes him more than the alternatives in the draft that he thought would be available late in the 5th.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Except that had Jax been injured in spring practices that start in 2.5 weeks, the Eagles would have been screwed in terms of trading him. Moreover, Sproles isn’t a 3rd down back for us, he’s a utility player who will line up all over the field. Given that 5th round picks don’t have what anyone would call a high success rate, the deal was worth it.

    • borntosuffer

      We got nothing for who?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Time to move on. He’s gone. We can discuss him on a different level, but the “we didn’t get anything for him” and “we will never replace him” and “we should’ve never let him go” and “the offense will suck without him” needs to go away and start looking fwd.

    • GEAGLE

      Sproles was NOT getting cut…yes initially he was going to be a Cap casualty, but when the saints saw how much interest there was in him, they were smart in making sure they got value for him. If we didnt trade for him, someone else would have, probably a contender…there was simply no way we,could have gotten him without giving up a pick…trading a 5th says that saints had a few 6th round offers on the table, and howie did what he needed to do, to secure him and keep him away from a contender

      • Jerry Pomroy

        …Or division rival

    • Guest

      – *Eagles should have kept Jackson until during or after the draft, where
      they may have had a chance to get compensation from a team that did not
      get what they wanted out of the draft. There was nothing to gain by cutting him when they did.*

      Wrong.

      Six-time National Football League Executive of the Year Bill Polian had an explanation on SiriusXM NFL Radio’s Late Hits for why DeSean Jackson was released now instead of later.

      He said that when a team wanted to move on from a player they used to keep
      them longer while trying to arrange a trade. But after a 2006 grievance filed by Steve McNair
      against the Tennessee Titans for preventing him from working out with
      his team was ruled in his favor, players under contract must be allowed
      to participate in off-season team workouts. Polian said because of that,
      April 21 – when organized team activities begin – has become a new
      “demarcation date” for teams getting rid of undesired players. Polian
      said if a team keeps an undesired player after that date the team takes
      the risk the player might be injured during training camp, and then the
      team “buys that player for the rest of the year.” If a team has decided
      to move on from a player it is in their best interest to do it before
      April 21.

      If Jackson had been injured in training camp – like Jeremy Maclin and Arrelious Benn were last year – the Eagle would have been force to pay DeSean $10 million to go through rehab, and THEN try to trade an even more questionable DeSean next year, just for the microscopic chance of trading DeSean after this year’s draft. Not worth the risk.

      Amateur GMs: so many opinions, so little expertise.

  • Honest_T

    I am not a Howie hater, but March was not his best month. He gets played by the Saints by giving up a 5th rounder in the deepest draft in a long time for a 31 year old running back, and then let’s DJax go with no compensation.

    We have a LOT of holes to fill and depth to add, and if you are remaking a roster in Chip’s image you need to restock the talent. I can see that you expect to be in the playoffs and Sproles is the type of player that can put you over the top, but his window is 2 years, at best. Now everyone knows you have to drop an RB and you may not get as much value for Brown or Polk in a league that doesn’t value RBs highly at the moment.

    After a year Chip knows what he has and what he doesn’t, so this should be the year down year. I see this 2 ways. 1, everyone is undervaluing the early picks because the draft is supposedly extremely deep, so trade up while you can get better value’ or 2, trade back and dump all of you marginal talent to stockpile as many picks as possible.

    • Richard Colton

      I think he did a nice job with the resignings. Peters was an A. So was Cooper. Maclin was a B (now we know why Howie was desperate for a longer deal).

      Free Agency was just OK. No big splash. Some good special teams/back up guys and a band aid at safety.

      I need an A-/A+ draft to salvage this off season. Think Howie has another one in him?

      • anon

        Hard not to score in the draft it’s stacked.

        • oreofestar

          I expect a lot of busts :)

          • Richard Colton

            Lots of bust potential in this draft. At least one of those can’t miss DE/OLBs taken in the top 25 will flame out. Ford? Shazier? Barr? Mack? Clowney?

          • oreofestar

            Ford, will be a bust Shazier will bealow end starter high end depth guy, Clowney will be good but no where close to what people think he is Peppers,

          • Chris

            Busts in Canton maybe! (we can dream)

  • GW.Fisher

    Wow, the loss of that 5th rounder will haunt this organization for years to come…

  • GEAGLE

    This was a solid addition. Obviously Id rather not trade away a 5th, but it needed to be done to secure him. If we have to give up value for a veteran, i prefer it being for meco/sproles type who former team mates are sick about losing…..Sproles wasnt going to go to a bad team, if we didnt trade for him, he would have added firepower to some contender, so Not only did we add a weapon, but we kept a contender from becoming more dangerous….so far I have watched the first 6 saints game and i havent seen anything to not be excited about….

    • oreofestar

      ….so yeah Sproles was ok addition but whatever

      • cliff henny

        he’s making 3.5m, they pay 3rd string TEs that. late 5th, what’s the hit rate on that pick, 20%?. complimentary piece, he’s perfect. sure it’ll take him 5 minutes to feel at home in offense, Kelly will have his hands full figuring out 2 or 3 rookie WRs, last thing they need is rookie slot guy.

    • cliff henny

      yup, solid. nothing to complain about all the way around. Saints put out he was going to be cut and teams got excited, they pulled Sproles back and fielded trade offers. Howie didn’t get played, and of course he offered best pick cause he landed Sproles. Sproles isn’t the 25 yr old guy, he also isn’t getting paid 25 yr old money. under a team friendly and fair contract. plus, he can still give team something in short run. if drafting a DAT or Dri, who better in the league than Sproles to show them how it’s done or a yr or so.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah the fools saying howie got played are a joke…..it was going to take the best offer to secure sprouls, dont see why anyone would have a problem with adding such a talent for a 5th round pick, while also keeping him away from competition like the niners or Hawks…
        ….
        Truth be told, its probably more difficult for defenses to matchup with Sproles than Desean..

        • cliff henny

          just Howie haters. plenty to hate Howie over without making crap up. wake up, get coffee,open PM24/7,complain. must be rough mornings

        • anon

          I wouldn’t go so far as that last sentence sproles isn’t as versatile as desean, but i think Kelly added a dimension just as he took one away.

          • GEAGLE

            Think a guy like sproles drives DCs crazier than Desean does…there are some CBs who can handle Desean…how many DCs really have,a,LB that they can stick on sproles and not have to worry about him getting loose?
            ….
            My last sentence doesnt mean sproles is better than Desean…just harder to match up with

          • oreofestar

            Oh I agree with Johnny he is a more versatile player that defenses have to specially game plan for, granted Desean is a bigger playmaker but if we are simply talking versatility then Darren

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I would agree that we subtracted a dimension but added a multi-dimensional player. I honestly think that Chip looked at DJax, the player, and realized that what he wanted from a smaller/speedy guy, DJax couldn’t give him. That’s the ability to line up in the backfield and actually sell run. Sproles gives him that & I think that helped to make DJax more expendable in their eyes.

            By no means all, do I want to get into a DeSean debate. So if anyone wants to continue to spread misery, please do that elsewhere. I’m over it.

  • Formidable

    Food for thought: Howie, Chip and the front office will no longer be able to sign any players with “character” issues in the future. The media and fan base will never let them argue for an unknown talent with question marks after they cut a known talent with question marks. Will be interesting to see the spin if/when they sign a talented UDFA to the 53 with “character” issues at the expense of a team 1st guy.

    • oreofestar

      Looks like Jason Peters, Lesean Mccoy, Cooper and others should be cut, we should take like a 3rd of all prospects off our board and should apologuze for signing Vick in the first place, obviously Desean will ot be our last knucklehead and anybody who gves them crap for signing one should be ignored

  • oreofestar

    Tim tweeted pm247 was visited more in March than ever before and Geagle that is why they keep the Desean articles coming :)

    • G_WallyHunter

      Bada Bing bada boom…
      That explains all the new trolls, too

      • oreofestar

        Yeah I was the new troll and then all these newer trollier people came

        • G_WallyHunter

          No you’re not a troll, the people who stupidly argue dumb points in the interest of getting mad responses from people are the trolls, plenty of them around now

          • oreofestar

            :P I was messing…

          • Joe from Easton

            You troll Wally!

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ha! I troll for walleye yes.. but won’t be caught mindlessly trolling this site lol

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        That and Philly.com switched to Disqus, so now they can migrate seamlessly.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Damn, that definitely contributes

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Are you sure that Geagle didn’t add to that with his talking to himself on here?…lol. He’s the king of replying to his own comments.

  • Josephr2225

    Anyone good with Photoshop? If so can you create some photos of Jonathan Papelbon making gang signs? Thanks!

    • oreofestar

      for how much? :P

    • GEAGLE

      Dorenbos got caught making Amish Mafia gang signs after PATs

      • Jerry Pomroy

        That honestly had to be the worst show out there! That and that Honey-Boo-Boo bull$hit.

    • Amar (India)

      Upvote through the roof…

  • Joe from Easton

    Sproles didn’t look bad when he averaged 7.3 yds per carry and 7.8 yds per catch against us in the playoffs last year. He’s a welcome addition in my book especially when you consider Foles’ strengths as a passer and Kelly’s style of offense.

    • JosephR2225

      There was also a general level of dysfunction in the Saints offense in road games last season. I don’t know what the explanation is for that, but they really were a different team at home versus on the road.

      In home games last year Sproles averaged 10.5 yards per reception at home, where the offense was really good, compared to just 6.3 on the road, where the offense stunk. He also rushed for 4.9 ypc home and just 3.4 ypc on the road.

      I don’t know that any of that is significant, but I think you can make the case that if the offense around him is decent, his tank isn’t completely empty just yet.

      • Joe from Easton

        Saints play in a dome.

        On the road they played (in order) at TB, Chi, NE, NY, Atlanta, Seattle, St. Louis, and Carolina. I’d contend that four of those are poor weather cities. That may have had something to do with the Saints’, and subsequently his, poor play. Hopefully it was more the offense stalling and not just Sproles being unable to play in poor conditions because Philly won’t offer him anything better.

        We’ll see.

        • JosephR2225

          I thought about that, but his outdoor rushing splits in 2012 were better than his indoor, and receiving was almost the same. In 2011, he was significantly better both rushing and receiving in outdoor games.
          Of course, it’s all academic. My hunch is he still has legs left, but we’ll see.

  • Philly0312

    So, I am not trying to say DJax is in a gang, or anything like that. I do want to point out that there is a big difference between police believing a person is involved in a crime and the police believing a specific person has ties to a gang. DJax’s gang ties are undeniable, as they are in photos, etc. As Sherman’s article on MMQB points out, it might be unfair to necessarily make DJax out to be a bad person simply because of ties he has from his roots. We don’t have enough information to judge. But, as journalists, I think it is also irresponsible to insinuate that police do not believe DJax has gang ties. They absolutely think he does, which is why he has been interviewed in relation to gang related incidents in the past. But having ties to someone does not make you guilty; I think you need to make clear distinctions between both. That said, I think the Eagles would have been better off cutting him prior to the Gang article, or holding on to him another couple weeks to try and trade him before cutting him. Outside of that, can’t wait for the draft!

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      You may like the article above, then.

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    Pretty good article from this Whitlock guy at ESPN (I’m new to him). He makes some good points. There’s a little nonsense in there, but overall it has good points.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10721431/eagles-had-other-issues-desean-jackson?src=mobile

    • Birds4Life

      Thanks for pointing that article out. Very good read! Finally someone that realizes that the Eagles didn’t cut Desean for the gang ties. If Desean wasn’t such a headache, he would most likely still be here.

    • reb

      new to Whitlock? He’s been around for quite a while. He was on foxsports.com for a long time. Often hits straight onto race issues in sports and a generally thoughtful guy as you see in this article. He’s worth reading. I didn’t know that he’d ended up on ESPN after leaving Fox. Thanks for pointing it out.

      • NickS1

        Yeah, I didn’t ever read foxsports, so that’s why. Seems fairly thoughtful, moreso than most media, that’s for sure.

  • Brian

    This reminds me of the Brian Mitchell signing. Sproles is 2 years younger (when signed). We got a few good years from Brian Mitchell, so, special teams wise, I expect to see something similar from Sproles, with more offensive production. B+ trade with A+ potential.

  • Andy

    I think De’Anthony Thomas may still be there in Round 5 (though I could be way wrong on that), so the question in my mind is would you rather have a 31 year old Sproles or a 21 year old Black Mamba?

    • NickS1

      I’d like to have both. No better person for DAT to learn the NFL game from than the guy who’s mastered his position.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Same here. Now the harder question. If you have them both, what position do you list them on the depth charts??…lol.

        • oreofestar

          OLB

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Oh that’ll really screw up other teams scouting departments. Sounds like a Bellichick move.

          • oreofestar

            AND DE’ANTHONY THOMAS WITH THE SACK!!!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            See I love $hit like that. I would’ve loved to see us get Dion, then have Chip line him up on goal line situations or 2pt conversions & run out towards the corner on a jump ball.

            I used to love watching refrigerator Perry line up and bust a run up the gut for a TD.

        • NickS1

          OW

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I say we just change it every week along with their status on injury report. Wonder if Kraft & Billy get a piece of the Vegas action… Lol.

          • NickS1

            Lol probably.

    • GEAGLE

      I think he will be available in the 7th

      • ODBorBustAllDay

        Unless the Saints take him with the 5th we gave em to replace Sproles.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I thought about this as well…lol. That would certainly suck wouldn’t it.

        • GEAGLE

          Thinking Dri Archer comes off the board first, but you make a fair point for sure,,,also, dont sleep on KC wanting to replace mcCluster…Andy always wants a guy who can do what westbrook did for his passing game…
          ..,.
          Think we will see Andy:
          Draft a QB in the first 3 rounds. Thinking of how he took Kolbb when Mcfool still had a few years,left…really hoping rumors start swirling of Andy loving or wanting a QB…so a team gets nervous and wants to trade ahead of KC in round 1 for a QB and we can trade back. Even cleveland wanting to trade up a spot or two just to get ahead of KC, is better than nothing for us
          Draft a scatback mccluster type specialist
          Draft a CB and Safety
          Strongly consider safe maclin close, marquis Lee

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Was that supposed to read… “Strongly consider safe Maclin ‘clone’, Marquis Lee”?

      • DoctorRick

        I hope so, we should grab him if so.

        • oreofestar

          I think he could be, maybe instead of drafting 2 wrs we go Beckham.Matthews/Cooks/Robsinson and DAT or something

  • borntosuffer

    It’s harder to get a feel for Sproles yards/carry in a vacuum. How did the other backs on the Saints fare last year? Also, an ex-Eagle who shall remain nameless and is considerably younger than Sproles saw his punt return figures fall off considerably from his peak early years. There are factors involved that don’t have to do with age. The fact that Sproles was still a dangerous weapon as a receiver indicates to me that the fall off hasn’t been too significant to date.

    • NickS1

      Yeah, there’s a natural decline but I think it gets far too exaggerated. Dude can still play at a fairly high level.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    For people who look, Demaris Johnson had better return stats last year than Sproles. Sproles looked pretty done to me when watching him on tape. The entire 2013 season is available on nfl.com. One can hope he becomes our next Brian Mitchell. I certainly do, but can’t be sure. New Orleans suspected he was done.

    re: Tommy Lawlor’s comment about quickness vs speed — well, again, Demaris Johnson is touted as just that sort of player. Quick and elusive instead of fast. He did diddly in Kelly’s offense.

    Sproles had a 13 yard run against the Eagles in the playoffs. Not much else. I guess that impressed Kelly. His performance the next week against Seattle was dismal.

    • usmcnole

      It will be interesting to see if the other DJ produces this year. He certainly flashed an interesting skill set his rookie year but clearly had a lot of room for improvement. It seemed to me the coaching staff felt there was no need to put Damaris out there with Djax on the field. If we draft a WR with size I can see Damaris having a clear cut role in this offense

      • GEAGLE

        Sheeeeeeeet it be imtresting to see if he is even on the roster. Im expecting Damaris to be traded to KC or the Jets for a player they planed on cutting…

        BTW, Adam,Caplan echoes my sentiment that James casey will have a bigger role in our offense this year…

        • cliff henny

          better. waste of 4m right now. didn’t mind the signing or pay, but any ball he gets, i’d rather see it go to Ertz. maybe more h-back sets with ertz? could see a ton of formation in a casey, ertz shady mac and Evans (always evans till his name is called by another team). then add in hyper speed offense, could be fun.

          • GEAGLE

            Casey wouldnt be here right now if last year was as good as its going to get for him…..the dude can play, and his time in this offense will come. We started to use him more at the end of last year, we even started a game or two late in the year our of 3TE sets, but the media didnt pick up on it…..he wouldnt still be on this roster if we planned on paying him 4mil for ST production

          • Joe from Easton

            (some hyperbole here) – Chip knew he’d be losing DJax this year regardless and kept most of his offense under wraps last year and built it all around DeSean and the “take the top off” to set up the rest mantra. Now a year’s worth of film to defensive coordinators is worth as much as my used tissues. This year is going to be three tight end sets, linebackers getting mismatched on McCoy / Sproles, nickel & dimes coming in and then getting run over, and our WR’s just reaping the benefits by Q3. Offense is going to look much different!

          • cliff henny

            ’13s passing tape is worth about as much as used ankle tape. last year Eagles were rather predicable, mostly shady, and either 3 wide with ertz/celek or 2 wide with both ertz and celek, that’s it. also cant wait for hyper speed offense. never showed the rapid pace he had at Oregon, bet we’ll see more this yr.

          • Joe from Easton

            I agree. I think people are so caught up in the DJax thing because they think the offense just “can’t be the same.” They’re kind of right except they are forgetting that Chip doesn’t want it to be. It was predictable last year, as you said. We haven’t even begun to see what chip will do with a full compliment of “his” weapons.

          • cliff henny

            agreed, good post. said it often, but just because Kelly got Jax a career year doesn’t mean he sees his skillset as optimal for his offense. think almost everyone agrees Kelly knows what he’s doing on offense, so if you give him a highly skilled player and make him focal point of offense, sure Kelly thinks ‘yeah, he’ll have great numbers’. so 1350/9 means a lot more to fans than to Kelly. still, move on from dj in ’15 and i’m a lot more comfortable.
            .
            lived out in LA with Oregon grads, so ended up watching almost every Duck game from ’02-’11, can tell you, Kelly never came out in same formation twice, and never at same speed twice, unless up by 25. think we are going to be surprised how diverse offense becomes.

          • Joe from Easton

            I can’t wait to be surprised.

          • Joe from Easton

            I agree on the extra year, but also (just to play antagonist) I would ask if that extra year would just be a ‘lame duck’ sort of session. That is so say, would another year with Jax just be another year of Kelly not implementing his full offensive scheme and hence a waste of a year?

          • cliff henny

            true, i’m just saying to appease my pea football brain. if OTA’s start and Benn and Maclin are running like 18 y olds catching everything in sight, Evans and Moncrief are having pose offs in the corner, all my little worries will look dumb.
            .
            my guess is Kelly knows what he’s doing. on football, if i’m thinking one way, Kelly the other, pretty sure i’m wrong.

          • Joe from Easton

            haha and that’s my belief too so I just mold my thoughts to be what I speculate Kelly is thinking and then pretend I’m as smart as him.

      • cliff henny

        doubt DJ2 is even in the plans right now. Kelly was searching high and low for 3rd – 5th WR production last year, signing Maehl and Smith, who pretty did nothing (though think Smith could play some role, being brought in 10th week or whenever is little tough). then have Avant, who could block but believe he was like 35 catches on close to 80 targets for minimal production. if DJ2 couldn’t see field last year, now Kelly brings in sproles and i’ll bet about 4 maybe 5 new wr/te/rbs drafted and udfa, he’ll be buried on depth chart

    • anon

      Can’t believe you’re making a comparison btw sproles, the prototypical scat back, and someone that’s never done anything on the pro level. It’s like saying you wouldn’t take Andre Johnson b/c we have Momah.

      The argument that some players don’t show up in games is flawed. Coaches gameplan and utilize tools differently week by week. I’m not saying sproles will return to his 26yo form but he can be really effective in our system where we have a lot more (and better quality) weapons than the saints did last year.

      And finally value. We got Sproles off a down year and aren’t paying him much in the hopes that we can get VALUE from the signing. If you only take guys coming off great years you’re inevitably going to overpay and have to hope that they can maintain/improve prior performance to justify the high price you’re paying b/c that’s the only way you’d get value from the signing.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah that was a really crazy statement….last time fans and media were running around talking about us trading for a guy “who has fallen off” was meco Ryans, who made them look stupid…like Mecos team mates who were pissed about losing him, we see the same dynamic with Sproles, which IMO is a very good sign

      • SoCalEaglesFan

        I said in the return game. And I stated cold hard facts, not opinion. Damaris Johnson was a more productive returner than Sproles in 2013. I realize opinion trumps data in these comments sections but people should deal with reality, not fantasy. I hope Sproles becomes a pro bowler for the Eagles. But that doesn’t change the reality of the 2013 season.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Sproles role will be somewhat along the lines of the old thinking that the running game doesn’t need to be elite but rather effective to set up the pass. I don’t think he’s gonna be pro-bowl caliber but rather a guy that can still be used “effectively” to keep the opposing defense honest.

          I see your point in the return game and I don’t think he’s written in ink as the primary RS just yet. But he is a guy with experience and adds value in his versatility. Plus I think the coverage units should be vastly improved which could help in the return game.

        • GEAGLE

          fact of the matter is Damaris 2013 return game, and Sproles 2013 return numbers shouldmt be good enough for the 2014 Eagles….I watched our ST and I can say that the blocking was inadequate. I don’t know that Cordarell Patterson could have made much of a difference. Our blocking MUST improve….It’s not as simple as just improve the returner and all our problems are solved…but I’m not even sure that Sproles will end up being our return guy…Regretfully I’m not as familiar with Brad Smith as I should be. So i don’t really know what to expect of him…I’d be curious to see what Boykin could do behind some adequate blocking.. But if we draft a kid like OL Dirty, then he shoots right to the top of our KR depth chart…

          I like that Sproles can bring ST ability, but I’d prefer not having to use him in the return game, just to better preserve him at his age…
          ..
          What I need to familiarize myself with(which I always say I’m going to do but never get around to it) is….out of the really talented BIG Body WRs like Moncrief,Evans,KB,Coleman,Bryant.Mathews,Robinson…which are the better KR/PR? Do any of the big boys have Cordarrel ability in the return game? So far, the only WRs I watched on ST was The two LSU boys, cuz Cliff put me on to em a while back

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Mathews has returned kicks. Can’t speak to how well. But I know he can sure as hell field the kick & take a punishing hit and get right up.

    • GEAGLE

      Token must have switched his screen name to trick me into reading his crap….out of curiosity, which “sproles tape” have,you been watching? Im almost halfway thru the saints 2014′season, I would LOVE to discuss what you saw on “tape”….what game did you watch? What didnt you like?
      ….
      Doubt the eagles,signed,sproles just because pf what he did against the Eagles…..how could you ever compare Damaris to sproles? Smh…
      ….
      And when you see a dip in ST production, the ONLY way you can KNOW if a guy is slowing down, is to go back and watch Film of when he was a successful return man, and study the blockimg that he was getting…then you would have to go watch Film,of when he seems to have slowed down as a return man, and see what type of blocking he was getting…If his production fell off while getting the same level of blocking he got when he was having more success, then its fair to say he slowed down…..but since i can almost GUARENTEE that NO ONE who talks about him “slowing down” has put in THAT type of work to be able to make that statement…its all a bunch of BS!!!!

      • SoCalEaglesFan

        Calm down, Sparky. Try to improve your reading comprehension when possible. And oh, watch the Seahawks/Saints playoff game. The cold hard fact is that Johnson was a more productive returner than Sproles in 2013. And the blocking for Sproles was from a playoff team that made it to the NFC Divisional round. That means it was pretty good.

        Sproles is a 31 year old running back. RB’s rarely keep going at a high level after 30. Let’s chat again around Thanksgiving and see what’s what with Sproles. He had a great career. It’s winding down. Johnson will never have that sort of career, but he had a better season returning kicks. That’s all I said. And it’s not opinion but a cold hard fact.

        • GEAGLE

          Hahahahaha no pal. We will NOT be chatting again, if this is the quality of your understanding lol….we can agree to disagree, Sproles is no better than Damaris..got it….Vai con Dios

  • oreofestar

    Caplan says we have interest in Evans and Cooks forget Cooks….me want Mike

    • cliff henny

      we all want Mike!

      • oreofestar

        Oh hell yeah I will give up you, me , my, sister and a first round pick to go up and get him

        • cliff henny

          just cant see it happening. hope for my sanity he goes top10, cause if he’s on the board around 14, it’s going to get irrational in the Henny household. once he gets to #22 and 3rd range, i’m needing Howie to make that trade

          • oreofestar

            Oh God two things have to happen for me to not go berserk if he is a top1 0 pick or an EAGLE if he goes in that Giants, Steelers, Ravens range I am going crazy

          • GEAGLE

            Wouldnt shock me if someone choses him over Sammy

          • oreofestar

            I f***ing hope not I want him real bad, the only thing is if he becomes a Giant and is Calvin oh God….

          • cliff henny

            what Dallas? they are taking Ealy, Brown or Jerrigan. almost have to. have zero DT talent or depth.

          • oreofestar

            No I do not not want him to be a Giant no way Dallas takes him

          • oreofestar

            I love Ealy too

          • ODBorBustAllDay

            Yout know how bad Eli misses being able to just throw the ball up to a spot and have some 6’5 monster there to bail him out? With Cruz he actually has to throw routes. With Plax he just threw it in the end zone and prayed.

          • oreofestar

            well he is better so….

          • anon

            Sammy catches the majority of his balls from the backfield, think Evans has had the more complete WR experience thus far — though Evans catches a lot of comeback routes given his QB — which makes it even more amazing that he gets so much YAC.

          • cliff henny

            ravens are 16, I think, if he’s there at 15, Howie’s got to make the move ahead of them. unless Barr somehow is still floating around. both are probably gone top10, so switch hopes to qbs falling for tradeback bait. think Howie came on PM24/7 during one of my really crappy anti-Howie days, researched my history and saw my 9 month crush of Evans and thought ‘how can I really F with this guy”. just don’t see how eagles land Evans without hijacking most of this draft

          • oreofestar

            if he is there at 14 I jump the Steelers too

          • GEAGLE

            Lol…you only have a few weeks left to frame him for a crime…Wisenhunt will LOVE Evans..wonder why the mock community never thinks about him possibly going to to titans..

            What rally sucks is The Bears F’ed the game up…now everyone wants Marshall/Jeffries Tandem…so teams who had and were happy with having 1 big star WR, now all are starting to want two of them. So we have to worry about Lions wanting a big boy to pair with Calvin, Bucs wanting a compliment to VJax…..heck, I wouldn’t be shocked if Julio coming off injury, gonzo retiring, Roddys body starting to break down, if Atlanta surprises people and adds a pass catcher instead of OT or edge pass rusher

          • cliff henny

            I know, right. guess might be putting too much into bringing him in for visit. NE brought JF. never paid much attention to it before, guess teams bring in guys for S&Gs all the time. cant see how eagles make move to get him. as much as ilikeEvans, rather do trade back with SF above. difference between evans and adams, let’s say, isn’t big deal when handing all those picks.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s why I am not over tempted by Evans. I think there are a lot of big receivers in this draft that’ll do damage in NFL. I’m more inclined to look for Barr to fall than Evans. Barr doesn’t have anyone in this draft that stacks up to him in comparison. While Evans is just the best of the big boys and there are others that “could” be just as good.

          • cliff henny

            so another Howie smoke screen. could make a crazy mock draft with sf trade, add 2 6th for Brown and Graham. draft so many weapons, Kelly never stick his tongue back in his mouth again

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He’ll be running around TC with that bop ‘em stick much more often for sure.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I thought you were all in on Mathews??

      • oreofestar

        I love Matthews but he won’t make it to 54, now Evans oh Jesus Christ I love Evans but he will not make it to 22, picking 22nd in every round sucks

        • GEAGLE

          PYeah i really really hate picking 22…its horrible…

          Howie needs to pick 5 times in the first 3 rounds!! He has to!!!!
          PAnyone see any other realistic scenarios for how we can,pick 5 players before round 4 other than the scenario i wrote about yesterday?

          • oreofestar

            Take 22 trade down to like 15 spots and pick up 2 3s? I mean IDK maybe we do not need a lot of top 100 picks and stash on later ones

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Would it be out of the question for the Saints, Pats or Broncos wanting to move up and snag a QB in exchange for their 1st and their 3rd? Their 3rds are almost 4ths. There has been chatter amongst the Pats & Saints about looking for their successors to Brady & Brees. I think Broncos are less likely as they seem to be in win it now at all costs mode with Peyton. But maybe Carr appeals to a team like the Saints. I dunno. We move back & can pick up an extra pick with which to work with. We could then possibly move back again out of 1st into high 2nd & pick up a 4th.

          • oreofestar

            Hmmm one thought is the Browns lets say they like Carr, and they take Robinson or Watkins with that first pick you let them know we are seriously fielding offers from maybe Minny or Jax that wants to move up fr a QB then they have to trade up to block them and give us a 4 while our options at 26 would not be wildly different than 22

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I guess there are options as long as there are those willing to trade with. I’d be absolutely fine with no 1st, two 2nds, two 3rds, a 4th & could care less about the 5th, 6th & 7th rds. Only thing is that I want my picks in the 2nd & 3rd rds to be at top and bottom. We already have the bottom rd picks, just need to trade back that 1st into high 2nd & see if we can package a deal to move up into top of 3rd.

          • oreofestar

            hmmm no I want 4ths 5ths and 6th I want to get rid of 86 bring it down 40 spots get an extra 5 and 6 and I want to stay in round 1

          • Jerry Pomroy

            The meat and potatoes of this draft is in rds 2-5. If you can walk away with 4 quality players before the 4th rd in this draft, if you draft right, you could literally have struck gold. Think about it. You could literally have 3-4 players with stud potential & you didn’t even reach 4th rd yet.

            Don’t get too attached to those late rd picks as the UDFA class this year will be like taking 5th-6th rd players & you don’t have to guarantee a rookie contract.

          • cliff henny

            trade all the way out of 1st with SF, get late 2nd, 2 3rds and a 4th, math works.

          • oreofestar

            so you want 54, 56, 77,86, 90 something and 2 4ths instead of 1,2,3,4

          • oreofestar

            49ers if they are smart will just say F*** our 2nds and go get Gilbert I mean with that many picks you might as well

          • cliff henny

            yup. if Barr or Evans aren’t there, hand Kelly 7 picks in 2-4 and watch the F out!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            No BS, that could very well build this team for the next decade right there when you add that to our last 2 drafts.

          • cliff henny

            math works fine. SF still has own 2nd and 3rd plus now 2 1sts, how could they complain. they cant use all the picks they have.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I just think of the player names we could have in that scenario and my jaw drops.

          • GEAGLE

            YUP!!! Like I said yesterday, I’d bet they would be willing to convert some of those picks into 2015′picks….it’s not at all uncommon for a team to trade away a pick, for a pick in a higher round the following year…
            ..
            So no matter how many picks we can get our hands on trading back, I still want to use a 2015 pick, to purchase an extra pick In this draft…

            I don’t want an extra round 2 pick, because it will cost our 2015 first rounder…if we are going to trade away 2015 picks, I want to make sure we keep our first rounder, so we can use it to try and trade back and recoup the picks we are trading away now…
            ..
            It’s also easier to get a 3rd round pick, then a second round pick because 3rd round is when the compensatory picks start. teams can’t trade away comp picks, but if you have two or three t

          • GEAGLE

            Continued…but if you have two or three comp picks in round 3, you are probably more willing to consider trading your 3rd rounder for a second round pick in next years draft…
            ….
            So if we can trade back from 22, we get an extra 3rd and possibly more…and if we trade a second next year for another 3rd….we won’t have a first round pick, but we would have:
            1) early second round pick
            2) 22 pick in round two
            Something crazy like:
            #72
            #77
            #86
            ….
            Then say you are fortunate enough to find someone who really wants to trade back into round 3.. If you traded out of round 3 into round 4..you probably get something close to a 5th,6th and 7th…you would be left with:
            Two 2nd’s
            Two 3rd’s
            Two 4s
            Two 5s
            6th,
            Two 7s

            Say you fortunate enough that someone wants to trade for on of your 4s or 5s lol…you end up with two or three more pics lol
            ……
            Howie NEEDS to get 5 picks between rounds 2 and 3…from there, soooo many possibilities!!!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s where I’m focused. Rds 2 & 3. While unlikely, I think we could trade back our 1st twice, if we can partner up with Pats or Saints the first time swapping 1sts & getting a 3rd. You could then have a team like BAL that takes a WR at 17, want to move up back into 1st for an OT (I can’t remember if they signed someone off top of my head). That alone “could” get us two additional 3rds without even touching next year’s picks.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            You wouldn’t want 6-7 picks through 4rds rather than 4 in this draft?? That’s like trading a Ferrari for a corvette, escalade, H2 & mustang.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            By the way, I saw a new corvette yesterday. They’re pretty sweet looking!

          • oreofestar

            the trade is unrealistic to begin with

          • GEAGLE

            Interesting for sure…how many picks would it leave San Fran with?

            Jerry: I don’t think it’s out of the question at all to see this teams in the market for a young QB…not Denver because they have Osweiler…but just look at the Giants, they took Nassib last year, those teams better start grooming their heir apparent to Brees and Brady….I’m also expecting Andy Reid to draft a QB in the first 3 rounds. Like when he took Kevin KLOBB lol and McMoron still had a few years left…

            It’s VERY important for us that the Browns don’t draft a QB in the top 10…if we hear a WR,OT or defenders name called by the browns at the beginning of the draft it would be absolutely HUGE!!!! Whether it’s real or not, teams will expect them to draft a QB with the pick they got from the Colts…Not only will teams like Pats, Saints possibly want to get ahead of Browns to get a QB…but if the Brown don’t draft a QB in the top 5, we could see teams like the Texans, maybe Jaguars who are planning on drafting a QB at the beginning or round two, get nervous and want to trade back into round 1 and get ahead of Cleveland…if I’m the Texans, and I like a QB enough to trade back into round 1 and get ahead of the Browns, then I might as well get ahead of Andy Reid just to make sure,,…and since we have FOles,Barkley,Sanchez, teams won’t view us as a threat to their QB so they won’t be trying to trade ahead of us….
            ,,,
            Then, if someone like Manziel or Teddy have an epic Fall down the draft board. Things could get very interesting for us

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I completely forgot about Osweiler. He’s who i thought Pats would’ve took chance on taking to develop behind Brady.

            Kinda makes me wish that Mariota came out & Boyd & Murray were better prospects. I guess Bottles climbing up boards helped to feed the QB frenzied teams. But the more the merrier. For those that have that spot settled on their teams, the more talk of QBs in rd1, the better.

          • GEAGLE

            A disaster for us would be: Teddy,Manziel!Blake and Carr get picked in the top 15…,that’s a nightmare!!! But even if Carr is the only one of those 4 on the board when we pick at 22, I think we can see a nice trade market emerge for Carr….if a team like Vikings end up loving Carr and he gets drafted in the top 10, then it’s CRUCIAL that Teddy or Johnny have an epic Fall or we are screwed….at the end of the day, if any of those 4 are available when we pick, there should be some good opportunities to draft back and get value

          • cliff henny

            have 2 1st, 2nd, 3rd, no 4th and whatever they have left, like 5 total, I think, in 5-7.

          • GEAGLE

            Wait…if San Fran trades us all that. They still have 5-7 picks? Smh

          • cliff henny

            no, they’d have 9 still. 2 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, and 5 picks in rounds 5-7, not sure breakdown. f’rs are loaded. they have to trade out. and sorry, but they’ve tried red-shirting, and it’s not working that great.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            They all have red shirts though??… lol. Sorry couldn’t resist. The 3 of us have been just so engulfed with trade back scenarios, I had to break up the intensity.

          • peteike

            I really think the Browns dont go QB. I like what that team is doing and if they wait on QB Ill think they are moving in the right direction even more. I know most might disagree with that but we’ll see. Not sure about everything else falling like you say, good points though. Im really hoping Eagles can trade back and get picks

  • EaglefaninAZ

    My first thought upon the Sproles signing was “I can’t wait until Huls gets his hands on this guy”. I think this was a great acquisition. The guy is just too damn versatile. Not really seeing a downside here kids.

  • Explorer51

    I would bet that, along with his talent, Sproles appreciation by his teammates was really important to Kelly; and before anyone dismisses team chemistry as overrated, you better get used to it because every off-season move so far echoes that. Btw, check out this quote by the player who probably knows Sproles best, Drew Brees: “I think a Darren Sproles only comes around once in your lifetime, in my career and in everybody’s career. There may be another one 15, 20 years from now. But there’s not many guys like Darren Sproles. He’s a special player, he’s a special person, he’s a special teammate.”

    • GEAGLE

      Football is the ultimate team sport, I know it’s a cliche, but it’s not white noise..If a coach can build a talented team, who’s players will Sacrafice personal success so the man next to them can be successful…you will be tough to beat…..

      You need to have a really talented team to win a Super Bowl. You won’t be winning superbowls with below average talent…and there is no blueprint for what type of team wins Super Bowl….we saw a guy like Dilfer win, behind a great defense, strong run game and awesome Tight End…we saw team like Saints win with high powered offense who spread the ball around..we just watched a,defense led by safeties and pass rushers, strong run game and QB who didn’t make a mistake win a Super Bowl….So you can win, with different types of teams….but I bet if you were to take a look at all the past Super Bowl winners, one of the few constants were that they had special locker rooms,..Great leaders, Guys who cared about each other and were accountable to each other, and willing to Sacrafice for each other….

      I can’t imagine too many Super Bowl winners had locker rooms like last years Dolphins team

      • peteike

        true, heard Brian Mitchell on radio last night spewing some nonsense. He did make a decent point though that rarely a coach is successful in NFL without good players as opposed to other way around. He was a total djax apologist and Eagles basher, no surprise though.

        • GEAGLE

          Lol glad I missed it

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Figures. We took his ass in & he treats us like crap after he runs back to DC.

  • GEAGLE

    Wtf…Tampa just got a 6th round pick from Bills for WR Mike Williams who got stabbed by his brother…anyone know about the Charecter of Stevie Johnson? Is he a good kid? Problem child? I’m expecting him to be released or on the trade block soon…
    .,,
    Bills is also taking Williams contract as is…not even trying to restructure. I know he is being reunited with his college coach, but this is kid of odd. Dude isn’t cheap, he is a problem child, and their was a 6th round market for that WR?
    ..
    Btw. NFLPA is going to investigate Eagles handling of Desean situation

    • cliff henny

      think he’s had his battle with Buffalo management, but then again, it’s buffalo’s management, so that doesn’t bother me. believe he has issues coming out of school.
      .
      think as much as national media wants to kick around Philly for cutting Jax, bet the GMs around the league are laughing at the contract Washington gave Jax. no one wanted to even give a 6th or 7th to get first rights to sign him to those numbers.

      • GEAGLE

        Charecter concerns that would keep us from being interested? When healthy Stevie makes ish happen, and it’s not like he ever played with a good QB

        • cliff henny

          don’t think so. I cant blame the guy for having run ins with Bills, they are cheap SOBs. pretty sure he came from hard times and has some personality issues, like bi-polar or something, if I remember correctly. but, yes, there is something there, have to google dig to get true answer.
          .
          still have 20m in cap, should be a 4m-5m guy somewhere yet to be signed. after picks, have about 10-12m carryover. seems about right.

          • peteike

            would love it if they signed Stevie

          • cliff henny

            I just know him for stupid writings/fines on t-shirts, plus dropping that ball and tweeting/half breakdown about god. these guys get stuck in nfl wastelands, mean who cares what buffalo does. hopefully Trump buys them, at lest that’ll be entertaining

      • Jerry Pomroy

        That’s why I honestly think it’s odd that DJax wouldn’t restructure for a trade, but then the NJ.com story came out & we dropped him quicker than you could spell See Yah. I don’t know why, but I think Segal may have had a hand in that story getting out and that could’ve drove the Eagles to just part ways, thinking there would be a more lucrative market if he was free.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I’ll even add that it’s possible we had a deal in works with Raiders & Segal leaks that info to keep DJax from going out west & in turn scaring them off from making a run at him.

          Yeah it’s very conspiracy theory. But I find it odd how this all went down and I always err on the side of caution & leave door open for the dirty laundry.

        • cliff henny

          would guess Howie got offers, but they were all contingent on Jax’s restructuring contract. like Eagles did with Spoles, sure that was agreed to before trade, just held off for a day. Jax/agent wanted to know where new teams were thinking money wise, and they said ‘no’. so teams wouldnt trade. In a way, jax did have a lot of control in where he went, since he nor any team wanted that 10.5m contract.

  • Scott J

    Recent 5th round draft picks: Wolff, Dennis Kelly, Dion Lewis, Julian Vendervelde, Ricky Sapp, Cooper. Looking at this list, I would trade a 5th for Sproles.

    • GEAGLE

      It’s not even like we traded our 5th…in reality, it’s like we traded Isaac Sopoaga and our 6th for Darren Sproles lol….yes please!!!

  • GEAGLE

    Cowboys may have to start looking for young QB, well that’s what they should do, but you kno the cowboys won’t do that, they will push all their chips to the middle and try to win a SB next year lol

    • Jarrod

      Didn’t they get a 3rd year QB in free agency? Oh right, he’s already 30 yrs old as well! lol

    • cliff henny

      actually, seemed to have switched gears and trying to spend wisely, have at least slowed down the restructuring train. though, think it might be day late dollar short. by time they get done extending Smith Bryant and are talking to Murray, that’ll eat up most of next cap. if they want to open any money up, that’ll take restructuring Romo again. but all that gives is 15m, and Eagles could have 2xs maybe 3xs that much. right now, it’s guaranteed Romo is qb thru ’16. if they restructure, put him thru ’17, but if they don’t, not sure they can improve team unless they draft incredibly. still have no depth. think Dallas is in serious treading water mode. JJ messing up cap has put a hold on the team for 2 or 3 yrs, and once they get out from under that, Romo will be fried.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Anyone want CJ2? He was just released by Titans. No? Moving on…

    • Joe from Easton

      He can come in to be the world’s fastest water boy. We need him to get our players hydrated during blur mode.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        That’s an awesome idea!

        • Joe from Easton

          Thanks man.

    • cliff henny

      for right money, if he get’s his head squared on, why not? he’ll probably chase money, get abused and rundown by new team who couldn’t care less about his future, be on fumes by next year and shell of himself by ’16.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Uh yeah he’ll chase money. Don’t you recall his holdout a few years back and that he wanted to be highest paid RB. I believe his agent may be same as DJax as well.

        • cliff henny

          different time, different mindset, never blame the player for wanting paid. sure someone will pay him 2yrs/10m in a 3yr/17m contract, run him right into a NFL grave. if he could step back, see where he is now, a reduced role might extend his career and end up with him making more money. but, just not how these guys think.

          • NickS1

            Or a decent O-Line might help extend his career.