Making Sense Of the DeSean Jackson Move

Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson (10) returns a punt return against the Detroit Lions during the fourth quarter of the Snow Bowl

The release sent out by the Eagles landed in reporters’ inboxes at 12:40 p.m. Friday and contained 25 words:

“After careful consideration over this offseason, the Philadelphia Eagles have decided to part ways with DeSean Jackson. The team informed him of his release today.”


So far, that is the only on-the-record explanation the team has provided for letting go of a 27-year-old wide receiver who caught 82 balls for 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns in 2013.

The decision to part ways with Jackson came 35 minutes after NJ.com published a report about the wide receiver's connection to Los Angeles-area gang members. The timing on the Eagles' part was calculated. They became aware of the report two days earlier. They also knew that announcing Jackson's release shortly after the report was published would soften the public backlash of getting rid of one of the team's most productive offensive players.

But the truth is the team decided Jackson was more trouble than he was worth long before the NJ.com report was published. The Eagles had been shopping him in hopes of getting something back. The problem? They didn't field any attractive offers because of a number of factors working against them.

Word spread that the Eagles might cut Jackson, making teams reluctant to offer up any significant compensation. Throw in his salary, and even if teams were interested in the wide receiver's talent, they were more likely to take their chances that he'd be available on the open market than give up draft picks.

After the owners' meetings in Orlando last week, the Eagles appeared to be hitting the reset button on Jackson. Chip Kelly called the wide receiver to let him know where he stood. And the head coach spoke positively about Jackson's work ethic and production in 2013. The plan seemed to be to create the impression that maybe the Eagles would hold on to Jackson. That would provide a six-week window before the draft in which they could field trade offers.

But knowing all along that releasing Jackson was a possibility, the NJ.com report provided the team with an opportunity to get rid of him and have a built-in explanation publicly. The report would also make it even more difficult to convince teams to trade for him.

The question of why though is still addressed in vague terms. Kelly, Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie have decided not to address the situation at all. Behind the scenes, we hear explanations that Jackson was a bad fit in the locker room and didn't fit the culture the team is trying to establish. Yet he was not disciplined for any missteps last year and played all 16 games for Kelly. Meanwhile, the team handed out a sizable contract to Riley Cooper, whose fit in the locker room could reasonably be questioned.

Then there's the NJ.com report, but it's important to consider the timeline and the bigger picture. The LAPD detective interviewed in the article said he called Jackson about investigations in 2011 and 2012. In other words, if this was a major concern, the Eagles would have let him go prior to Friday. They would have let him go prior to last season. Jackson was never a suspect in the investigations, and police told the reporters that they had no hard evidence Jackson was a member of a gang.

No one is out to make the wide receiver a saint. But in the NFL, it comes down to weighing the negatives with the positives, the risk vs. reward. And in the end, that comes down to the head coach. When the Eagles hired Kelly, they handed him the keys. He has final say on the 53-man roster, and when it comes to significant decisions on who is going be in his locker room, nothing gets done without Kelly's stamp of approval.

Kelly has stressed all along that it's a personnel-based league. Yet there is a feeling among players that his system can compensate for shortcomings.

"I don’t think there’s one person that’s irreplaceable," said veteran guard Todd Herremans earlier this week. "...The fact is what they’re trying to do here is create a system to where you don’t have to rely on just the players and who they are. You can just plug guys into the system and have success from there for many years to come.

"I think for people to actually get that, we would have to lose one of those special players and then still have success. I don’t think people would really understand that until it happens. But I know that as a coach that’s kind of the system that you want. That’s the equation that you want. You want to be able to just plug guys into your system and not worry about your players wanting to stay, wanting to leave, wanting more money or anything like that. That gives you a little bit of flexibility if your system is the reason for winning."

With Jeremy Maclin coming off ACL surgery and Cooper facing more attention from defenses, it's a dangerous gamble to take. But it's Kelly's gamble. If Eagles wide receivers can't get open downfield next year and the big-play passing attack that was so integral to the team's success in 2013 is absent, his decision on Jackson will be criticized. And rightfully so. If he finds ways to compensate for Jackson's loss and has success in his second year, Kelly will be praised.

Chemistry is important, but so is talent.

Looking ahead, the market for Jackson's services will tell us a lot about the Eagles' decision. Interested organizations will do their homework into everything: the NJ.com report, Jackson's demeanor in the locker room, etc. They'll decide whether his on-the-field production is worth the headaches.

Chances are another head coach will decide he can work with Jackson. Kelly made the determination that he could not.

In the end, he'll be the one accepting the praise or dealing with the consequences.

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  • jjbadd

    THEORY: Momah finally learned how to play football. Megatron part deux is on its way

    • Richard Colton

      So it’s come to this? we’re talking about Momah? What stage of grief is “Mohmah?”

      • Tikkit

        Stage 6: Delirium.

    • Bobby

      Yea let one more person bring up a dude who looked like a giant baby deer trying to run routes in camp last year.

  • josephr2225

    “Attractive offers”; “Significant compensation”…
    In light of his outright release, seems to me there are two possibilities. Either there NO offers or NO compensation to be had, or there is another shoe yet to drop.
    I hope Roseman and Chip and Lurie get in front of a camera soon.

    • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

      I’m with you and there HAS to be something more. By all accounts it looked liked he was staying earlier this week and they yesterday’s news happened.

      What news did they get that made this a must release situation? It seems like this may be damage control before the public knows the true damage.

  • cheapmeat

    I admit it, I loved DeSean’s antics (towards the opposition), because he’s on my team. As soon as his smug/sucker-punching/selfish ass is on another team, I’m going to despise him.

    If our offense doesn’t play well next year, I’ll hate him more for not being here.

    • takeo

      If our offense doesn’t play well next year, I’ll hate Chip and will want him out of town.

      • Chip Kelly

        LOL

        I took your team from 4-12 to 10-6 and you want to kick me out after 2 years? Use your brain. Do some research. Know that I am a good football coach. Our offense isn’t predicated around one player for it to be successful. A more experienced Ertz, Maclin back, newly acquired Sproles, and possible rookie receiver, there is no doubt we’ll have the best offense statistically in the NFC next year, especially if Foles has less than 10 TOs and Shady stays healthy. Let’s focus on the defense.

  • Richard Colton

    Hey, the Eagles gave it “careful consideration” so there’s that.
    Eagles played this wrong. They just did. I don’t care about Jackson now. F him. I care about 82/1332. No plan to replace that. All of a sudden, WR went from minor need to major need.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Yup that part blows, whole new position of need with 0 more draft picks lol… Damn
      You think WR round 1 now? Then they maybe find a gem of a pass rusher in 2 or 3? Or vice versa

      • cheapmeat

        Vice Versa – D still needs more help then O

        • Richard Colton

          which was true last year and 3 of the first 4 picks were on offense.

          • cheapmeat

            Sure, but I was extremely happy with last season. Could always be better, but they exceeded my expectations.

          • Richard Colton

            same here. we get another haul like that, I don’t think we’re as mad about yesterday

          • Tikkit

            And this year we’ll pick 3 WR’s in the first 4 rounds!

          • Richard Colton

            Trying to think of a scenario where we do that and can’t – give me your best 4 round Eagles mock where that happens.

          • Tikkit

            1: OBD (probably gone by our pick) or Cooks
            2: KVN
            3: Moncreif/Matthews
            4: Robinson
            Of course I’m being a little tongue in cheek. But I could see 2 in the first 4.

          • oreofestar

            How would Robinson still be there??

          • oreofestar

            But yes 2 in the first 4 is not crazy maybe ODB and Landry let the LSU boys unite

          • Richard Colton

            Robinson a little low there, but OK – it justifies the pick.

          • Eagles1018

            Plus if we’re being honest, like the article says it’s Chip’s team. He’s gonna make sure his offense has the right pieces first. Remember he’s trying to out score you more than have his defense stop you.

      • oreofestar

        wr because who is gonna be at 22, Ford? no thanks rather get ODB and get Attaochu or Smith or KVN round 2

      • Richard Colton

        Hey Wally. Yeah – I thought WR in round #1 before DeSean got cut, so I’ll stick with that. Not because they’ll chase a need; just because at #22, its got the highest probablility of returning the highest value.
        Tell you what though, the odds of trading up to get a quality WR also went up. Give me Evans and I won’t mention DeSean again!

        • oreofestar

          same Desean is my favorite player but if we get Evans I will totally get over him

        • G_WallyHunter

          Ya good points, like I posted yesterday, if they somehow moved up to get Evans I’d jump for joy so much and probably not care about what they gave up to get there lol

          • Richard Colton

            Was out at happy hour yesterday with a guy who played for Chip at UNH (not an Eagles fan) – he was going on and on about how perfect Evans would be in this offense. Really sold me on Evans. Just don’t know if we have the bullets to go up and get him.

          • G_WallyHunter

            That’s hilarious, you got some awesome info from a former player like that. I don’t know, we’d have to move up to pick 8-12?
            Give up 3 picks to move up to there?

            I wouldn’t want it, CK and co have been going to all these pro days, this is the first REAL DRAFT that CK has had a full season to prepare for, I tend to think he will find some gems in the later rounds with the few picks we DO have in the later rounds, makes me hesitant to give them up to move up 10ish spots to try and get a WR that may not even be there at 8-12?..
            I really can’t wait to see what they do, after this Desean move, it just throws so many more marbles into the mix, I’m lovin it like mcdonalds

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah – I’m trying to imagine a scenario. I think Johnny Football’s pro day helped our chances – because the knock on Evans has been his route running. Maybe teams stay away because of that. Plus Manzeil has moved back into the top ten. If Watkins and one or two other pass catchers get picked ahead of Evans, he might fall to the 13-15 range. Then we would be talking about just our 1st and 2nd. Possibly 1st, 3rd, 5th – you do that?

          • G_WallyHunter

            1st and second is tough, be nice to somehow keep that 2nd but like you said, would have to give another pick.
            What about the pro day helped the chances? Was Evans underwhelming with his route running?
            If Evans was there at 15, do the Steelers take pick 22 and our 3rd to trade?
            I’d take that.. don’t think Pitt would though

          • Richard Colton

            Evans was great! but Manziel was amazing. Wonder if that maybe made Evans look pale by comparison. Like – a GM might wonder if Evans could succeed in a timing offense.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya I guess we can all hope it hampered his draft spot rather than improved it. Plus, If Manziel will now go ahead of Evans, then it helped it. When you have credible analysts saying Evans has the best hands since Megatron it’s tough to think he will drop favourably. Realistically, he won’t make it past 15 right?
            I mean, Pitt would probably hop on that?
            Then Dallas at 16? Baltimore at 17?
            2 other very likely suitors..

          • Richard Colton

            Yes. I think 15 is his absolute floor in the draft. Could go as high as 8.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yup I’d agree with that, and if he somehow made it past 15 there is absolutely no chance he makes it past 18 with the Jets.. But really, what am I saying, hardly any chance he gets to 15 as it is.. It’d be great tho.
            Last year, who was projected to go top 15 and dropped into the 20s…. Sharrif Floyd? Sheldon Richardson? I know they were both coveted in top 15, Sharrif went in the 20s and Richardson went to Jets at like 19 I think?

      • josephr2225

        So much WR talent available in this draft it seems silly to use a first on one unless he is head and shoulders above the rest (i.e. by some miracle Mike Evans or Sammy Watkins is there). You can pass on one in the first and still get Jordan Matthews or Moncrief in the second, or Martavis Bryant in the second/third, or even wait until the late rounds and get TJ Jones or Jeff Janis (my personal favorite – look him up).

    • Mike J

      I’m not going to say Jackson’s production won’t be missed but I’m also not going to say i’ll miss Jackson’s baggage (gang or no gang stuff aside, the me first, giving up on plays, no shows, contract re-do’s, etc.).
      And while all three are different players, I gotta think the addition of a healthy (I know, big if) Maclin AND the trade for Sproles nets the 82/1332 or more.

      Looking forward to two (Maclin & Cooper) bigger WR’s going over the middle in this offense. And they’ll draft a burner to stretch the field. After 14 years of Andy I’m going to cut Chip some slack in year two.

      • Richard Colton

        yeah Mike, that’s the silver lining i guess.

        • Mike J

          I get that it sucks we’re losing the on the field talent of Jackson (even though it wasn’t there every week, every play) and I wish he’d have learned how to be a professional by now…but like I posted: Reid’s decision making the last half (at least) of his tenure gave me aneurisms…so six weeks before the draft I’ll hang tight and see what Kelly does.

    • DharmaBum

      Agreed, we now need to address the WR position in the draft, which necessarily means that the whole BPA approach takes somewhat of a hit. But we were probably going to draft at least 1-2 WRs anyhow. What is affected is WHERE we feel the need to take them, i.e. possibly forcing a pick.

      Where the Eagles may have played this wrong is that they came out of this with no compensation. Now, SDK is right, this is not the time of year when teams feel comfortable using up $10M in salary in one fell swoop. Also, the deep draft, yada, yada. Nah, where the Eagles played this wrong, is that they didn’t do this much earlier. They played this wrong by giving him this last contract in the first place. Basically, they knew this day would come, both Andy and Howie, and presumably Lurie. I give Chip credit for coming in and shaking them back to their senses. He’s taking a major risk by letting go of a player of DeSean’s caliber, but it makes a massive statement about character, chemistry, and the value he places on doing things the right way. In the long-term, this will do wonders in terms of setting the tone is Kelly’s locker room, and I think the players will love him for it.

      Before I forget, let me mention that I F**CKING HATE losing him, his game-breaking, field-stretching, take-it-to-the-house ability and his 1300+ yards. This is gonna sting, in the short term, big-time. But we will replace his production. To that point, it seems to me that one of the over-riding messages in this whole “no one player is bigger than the team” mentality they’re selling is that it also means that no one player is going to have to be that big a part of our offense, barring QB, of course. With Maclin back, and now having Sproles, to compliment Ertz, Coop, Celek, Shady, and whatever rookies, we will not need any one player to get 1300+ yards from scrimmage. “No one player” applies both to character AND production.

      Will it work? Who knows, but that’s the IDEA. Not like we have any other choice but to sit back and wait for the results. Hey, at least finding out means getting to watch some football…

    • Token

      Like I said yesterday, we dont know what context to put his numbers in. It was the first year of a new offense. One that made Cooper a legit NFL starter. Made Nick Foles set records. Made McCoy go crazy. And gave Jackson his best year ever. I venture to guess that others will have success in the offense. It wasnt just Jackson being amazing making everything work.

      Dont forget his whole body of work. We cant just harp on this last year. because for all we know they could very well replace it without much problem. Maybe not one single guy.

      Im wondering if we get back to longer drives, more short and intermediate plays. Quick. Not the long bomb or nothing offense we got caught up in at times last year. I hate that stuff. Too many 3 and outs. I love taking shots, but I think the offense became too much of a deep passing game too often. My favorite drives were when they were going fast hitting quick developing plays and the D had no clue WTF to do.

      The draft is pretty interesting now. With not many picks right now you would think a trade up is out of the question. But what if they traded up and Barr and Evans were both there…… what do you do?

      • G_WallyHunter

        BD and CK would maybe have a fist fight up in the draft room, winner get’s their pick?
        That’d be unreal if they did indeed trade up to 8-12 and both Evans and Barr were there when the clock started… be real fun to watch

        • Token

          You gotta take Barr right? Pass rushers are harder too find. WR is deep. Man, it would be interesting. I think Chip would go offense tho.

          • Richard Colton

            Ok Token – here’s a hypothetical based on your scenario.
            Evans/Attaouchu or Barr/Moncreif – you can walk away with one of those pairings.

          • Token

            I think I gotta go with the pass rusher. Harder to find. WR is deeper. And they tend to drop also. Dont know enough about Moncreif to say if I want him or not, but I think you have a pretty good chance at getting a solid 2nd round WR. And then another one a bit later probably.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Give me Evans/Attaouchu ALL DAY! I don’t even have to think twice about this. Barr is still a little raw, Atta-boy a little more raw. Evans is a perfect match for this offense, and Moncreif, aka Littlefinger, has drop issues.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya I dono, Maybe Chip would opt to go D because he knows he can find offense in rounds 2 and 3?
            What Rich said below, those are the two pairings you’re looking at I guess.. tough call
            I’d want Barr personally, because I have faith CK will figure out the WR spot in round 2 or 3 or 4, really tough call

          • Token

            Yea I agree with that. I do think the first WR we take is gonna be a big guy. 6’2 or something. I dont know if a guy like Beckham is on their radar.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Be awesome to find that Keenan Allen gem yea, get Barr then find a gem like him in 2 or 3, damn, that would be a great draft (If it indeed turned out great, we wouldn’t know until December obviously)

      • Richard Colton

        What do I do if that happens? Drink. Then criticize on 24/7 if they pick the wrong guy.

    • Tom w

      Maclin replaced atleast eighty percent of the production. The sky isn’t falling. Ertz w an actual offseason will be featured more as a wr. Sproles will improve upon avant. Wr in draft or two was always going to happen based on deep talent in this draft, chip wanting more speed, and us not drafting for need ie ertz. Really not concerned about the offense for a second.

      • Richard Colton

        I hope the same things you do Tom, but you’re assuming facts not in evidence.
        1) Maclin hasn’t caught an NFL pass in over a year, is coming off a major injury, and has never been a #1 WR
        2) You’re projecting a 2nd year leap for Ertz. I like the odds there, based on his physicality, but it’s still a crap shoot.
        3) Possibility that no WR will be taken in the draft, based on Eagles draft patterns, even though the depth of the class argues to its probability.

        • GEAGLE

          Think we can easily count on 60receptions 500yards out of Sproles

          • Richard Colton

            I think you’re right – but a lot of those touches are coming from Shady’s, not DeSean’s targets.

          • oreofestar

            That is not bad though would like to see Shady’s load go down

          • cliff henny

            why, avant had like 75 targets for only 35catches and little production. throw ball to sproles 75 times, he’ll jam up the stat sheet

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Sproles plays a lot of out of the slot. I think he may be absorbing more of DJ’s touches than you’re thinking.

          • Token

            Yea, hes mainly going to be a receiving threat in the slot I think.

          • Richard Colton

            And Avant’s, who wasn’t a + player last year. Devil’s advocate – who is our #1 WR?

      • ztom6

        I don’t see a star receiver in Ertz. He’s a nice piece to have but I really can’t envision him being a top NFL TE. I like his route running a lot, but he’s not a special athlete and he doesn’t seem to have the “basketball skills” (or length) to dominate at the point of the catch like a Graham or Gates.

    • FMWarner

      Agree 100%. I believe that Jackson’s speed opened up the field for other guys, and allowed utterly pedestrian players like Riley Cooper to shine. He was the straw that stirs the drink. I just don’t buy what some players seem to be selling, that losing Jackson isn’t a big deal. They might have had their reasons (though I’m still waiting to hear them), but no matter what those reasons are, losing Jackson is a big damn deal.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Great article, really summarizes this whole situation well, it will come down to next years success to determine the real backlash and criticism of the move, and all any of us can do is sit back and watch how they respond, CAN’T WAIT

    • Tom w

      I’m fine w the mood. It’s not a outcome determinative decision. It was a good decision now. Can’t have your second highest paid player doing one thing, and the rest of the team following other rules. Chip is the coach. He has earned my respect. Djax brought this on his own. There is a lot more coming out about his work ethic, missed meetings, fights w bicknell, not being like in lockerroom,etc.

      I won’t be doing a post-hoc analysis of his release as the article suggests and it’s kinda a shitty Philly thing to do to suggest we will bash chip if djax plays well somewhere else. Of course he will. Doesn’t forgive his actions. No one is questioning his productivity. And chip did just cut him over shits and giggles.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Exactly, ok with the move and mood, whichever you meant there. Is what it is, after this year anyone who doesn’t think Chip has the ability to sufficiently compensate for the loss is just ignorant and uneducated..

  • anon

    Great article

  • Tikkit

    The comparison between Jackson’s flaunting gang member ties and Riley Cooper’s one time use of a terrible word for which he apologized and was accepted back into the locker room are two TOTALLY different things. There is really no comparison.

    • sdk152

      I hear what you’re saying. It wasn’t meant as a direct comparison. But I think it’s fair to say that Cooper’s incident makes him a strange fit when you discuss locker room culture. And while Jackson was by no accounts a great teammate, there has been no evidence (that I’ve seen) that he was a major locker-room disruption either. The gang stuff is off the field. My guess is most of the players never even had a clue about any of that. Thanks for reading and for the feedback. -SK

      • Token

        All you need to know is that no teammate seems to care at all that Jackson is gone. That should speak volumes. Remember when TO got kicked out? That literally split the locker room.

        • RIP illa

          Well that’s cuz the locker room was already divided before his release, with the TO v McNabb beef. So no, I don’t think that’s an accurate comparison.

          • Token

            If anyone cared he was gone, trust me you would hear the murmurs. Instead we are hearing that hes easily replaced. Or that Kelce loves the direction of the team etc….. Put 2 and 2 together.

          • cliff henny

            think hearing professional athletes say ‘plug and play’ is very surprising. to me, would go against everything I would think they believe about themselves. fans, coaches and FO can talk about it, but players, guess they are really buying in

          • RIP illa

            Todd should be kidnapped and thrown in the back of a van, taken to a shady abandoned warehouse, and beaten by the NFLPA.

          • cliff henny

            a shady or Shady’s…cause I can picture him having one. and it wouldn’t be a place for uptight ladies, that’s for sure

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Until it’s them that’s get =ting yanked. We will see how this philosophy plays out. I still say talent wins games. And right now we are lower on the talent tree at this point.

            Also Ealges are WAY too comfortable b/c we’re in the NFC East. We can’t assume Skins and Giants are going to be historically bad this year. It will def be interesting to see how all this plays out.

          • Zepi

            We may be slightly lower on talent. Did you forget about the Sproles signing? He draws the respect of defenses.

          • Jethro

            He doesn’t stretch the field though. He’s great on the underneath routes, but McCoy can already do that. I think Sproles is a very good player, but I doubt he’ll boost the offense the way Jackson did.

          • Zepi

            I agree for the most part. Sproles doesn’t strecth the field like Jackson can. And he won’t boost the offense the way Jackson could. Imagine if you could have both McCoy’s running talent and McCoy’s underneath routes on the field at the same time. If you put both McCoy and Sproles in the backfield at the same time and motion Sproles to the slot you make it tough on the defense because they will either match Sproles up with a LB or a S. Sproles is a matchup nightmare for the defense. Thats why defenses have to scheme against him. That’s why I said they may be slightly lower on talent over all.

          • RIP illa

            I get what you’re saying, but it’s not up to them and what’s done is done. We already got quotes of direct support and respect for Djax, before his release. What more do you want??? For the players go to NovaCare, with media in tow, shouting Attica!!! They are still employed by the Team…the same team that signs their checks. And F Kelce! He’s one dude and always struck me as a bit of a company man. Plus he just got paid.
            I’m sure there’s some that there are some that are happy he’s gone, some that are not, and some that just don’t care! That’s putting 2 and 2 together! What your doing is just throwing up a blanket statement as if they all think the same and that’s an obvious indictment on DJax.

          • Token

            I think you need to go back and read those quotes again.

            And players can say whatever they want as “anonymous sources”. But those guys are saying hes easy to replace and was a distraction.

            Trust that we would hear about it if there were players not pleased.
            O wait I forgot, everyone is in on it! Conspiracy!

            Somehow in this whole thing it is everyone elses fault besides DeSean Jacksons. Which is funny, since hes had excuses made for him his entire career. Why stop now…..

          • RIP illa

            What the hell are you talking about??? Conspiracy??? That’s such strawman BS right there.

          • Token

            jesus…….

          • RIP illa

            Yes.

          • Stevie B.

            Kielce by all accounts is down in south philly lifting and working out as we speak. He played well and got a good contract. Is that selling out or being a company man? just like all of us on these sites and twitter he was expressing his right to say or post whatever he wants. It is as simple as the organization and coach didn’t like the off the field and in the locker room baggage more than they like the on the field production so they cut him. May be a big mistake or not, some relationships work out and others don’t. Maybe DeSean and Eagles are both better off with a split?

          • Zepi

            All the positive messages from the team for Jackson could be towing the company line as well. If players on the team did’t like Jackson they are not going to publicly state their grievances either, which would also be towing the company line.

          • takeo

            Do you think a smart player would express his love for DeSean freely, looking at how the eagles managed the situation?
            He’d be the very next out of the building …
            And Jason expressing love for a front office who just made him one of the richest center in the league … really a neutral 3rd party comment …
            Say what you want, but even if you decided to kick him out, not being able to get anything in return makes you a bad manager.

          • Token

            Conspiracy! Everyone is in on it! Tin foil hats!

          • The Sixers Bench

            I made an account just to weigh in: the reason you’re playing up the conspiracy card and trying to attack the integrity of his point is because his take is more nuanced, yet well reasoned, then yours.

            Feel free to continue the condescending nature in the posts, but to discount the above poster’s opinions as “conspiracy” nuts is weak – it’s a pure deflection tactic.

          • Mr. Magee

            Wow, big reaction there sixer… That comment was worth creating an account over?

            Worth noting that the eagles couldn’t get anything for DJ, even before the NJ.com piece came out. (I know there were multiple factors at play..)

          • anon

            Plus he was with Riley at Kenny chesney so he’s probablyva racist too since people are guilty by association

          • RIP illa

            That one got me laughing hard. Up vote.

          • Hiral

            And Kelce was at the concert with Riley cooper but we are suppose to take his word for it?

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          Players stuck up for him prior to the release. A fact you keep missing. Once it was done it was done. This has been brewing for awhile.

          • Token

            Did they? Id go back and read those comments.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            I’d suggest you go back and read them too. Kendricks comment was all “He’s a good dude and misunderstood” – Maclins comment I beleive right after (or before) was I want to win games – DeSean wins games or some such. Cooper had a comment in a similar vein.

            Kece and I believe Hermmanas were along the company line and Cole basically said he could care less either way. The part you keep missing is Jax wasn’t a cancer but he was a diva…no news there…and for some players they could be glad he’s gone.

            However, that doesn’t mean the team is better for it. This is Kelly arrogance, he believes in plug and play and we’ll see. I can tell you this though, unless we start seriously winning, this will NOT be an attractive free agent destination AND get prepared for more players to be released when they want bigger paydays for their hard work. ‘Cause it’s coming. If you beleive in plug and play then everyone is expendable.

            Everyone. Even your sainted Nck Foles.

          • Mr. Magee

            I think you’re going off the deep end here. Yes, it’s a big, risky move, and only time will tell if it’s a good one or not. But let it play out, and try not to read too much into it (plug and play system, character always > than talent, etc). Goal is to win a SB, and we’ll know soon enough who the major building blocks are, and whether they’re up to the task. For all his speed and talent, Chip concluded DJ was never gonna be that guy.

            Btw, eagles may have done desean a favor, a la Chris carter; see mike Vick comments.

          • HowieDon’tKnow

            Chris Carter had a drug problem and was in a downward spiral. There is no evidence that DJ has anything similar going on.

          • Mr. Magee

            Yes, different set of facts, but could be a good wake up call nonetheless

          • Jethro

            Just as there is no evidence that Howie Roseman strangles kittens in his spare time. No evidence at all. None.

        • ztom6

          actually it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that there was something of a locker room split over Vick vs Foles last year… and DeSean was on the wrong side of it.

        • #7

          Who’s gonna come straight out and say it? To me, the guys are toeing the company line…. the one’s that have spoken.

          That’s a reach for you to say that “no teammate seems to care”.

        • Hiral

          You mean teammates like Kelce who was with Cooper at the concert when he made that racist statement.

          • therealpistolp

            Kiss ass Kelce…

        • Hiral

          It’s amazing how you guys try to brush off Riley coopers “isolated” incident but Desean gets cut for “alleged” gang ties!!!!!!! Just say he was cut for the money and just move on from it… Before long this city will be divided with all of you trolls

          • therealpistolp

            Cooper get talked about like some great guy who made a really bad mistake lol.. People more sad that he went through the grinder for it than mad and outraged that he is still around.. It wasn’t that big of a deal to me, but regardless that situation created a media circus, and was a big time distraction right before the season started.. So people need to cool it wit the chip not putting up with distractions talk..

        • Jethro

          Please, leave T.O. out of this discussion. T.O. completely ripped apart the team, had press conferences in his driveway, and demanded that the QB give him part of his salary. Jackson is nowhere near that level of disruption. Jackson’s a bit of a primadonna, but a totally manageable one.

      • Tom w

        How about the reports he missed team meetings, didn’t speak to bicknell, blew off his exit interview w chip, etc. And a better comparison rather than the racially charged cooper-djax one is that chip thought enough of mike Vick to bring him back for a year and so did Howie and lurie. Vick was a leader. Djax was disliked by his coaches in college, dropped to second rd in draft bc of character issues, was suspended by Andy, pouted and dogged it for a year before his new contract, got sued by his old agent for a half million, got into it w chip in the offseason, wr coach during the season, and not one player on his own team has come out on his side. Actually kelce maclin Todd Vick seemed to all agree w it and realize the young man has growing up to do. His production can be replaced and the team and organization will be better for it.

        • HowieDon’tKnow

          Where is the evidence of any internal discipline for DJax? Sorry, but no foundation for this. FO did not want to pay him. FO did not do a good job concealing its intentions and the rest of the league knew that they did not have to trade for him. Incompetence and greed are the beginning and end of this story.

      • #7

        I feel that you nailed this article and it’s fair to question why they feel Cooper is a better fit to the “culture in the locker room” than Jackson. No criminal record, produced and made all of our WRs better, and was not a major disruption either. To me, this was their chance to get rid of him and make themselves look good. They didn’t want to pay him and I think that Chip had an issue with his size as well.

        No compensation is a major issue with this also for me, and it appears that Chip believes his system trumps all and he doesn’t need talent. This guy… wow man this isn’t college. Just still in shock, but you nailed this piece big time.

      • Zepi

        Sorry Sheil. I don’t think its a strange fit. I think the decisions made were great to build culture. Cooper had a character issue and took steps to fix it and sounds like Jackson is not. Realize character issues, fix them, get to stay on team. Or don’t realize issue, don’t fix it, get cut. Both are positive messages to building culture.

    • takeo

      Indeed.
      Copper made a big mistake, DeSean made nothing wrong and is blamed based on rumors. Switch the colors of their skins and the story would be very different …

      • Token

        Use your brain.

        • oreofestar

          Don’t know why everyone makes it a race thing…and I am half black! but these are obviously 2 completely different situations even if I still don’t like it

          • takeo

            Im fully white instead and living in Europe, miles away from any racial conflicts between black and white. But name me a clear fact (not a rumor reported by some crappy newspaper or blog citing mysterious sources) backing the fact that DeSean is criminal. Suspect on burglary at his homes –> dismissed by Philly PD. Ties to LA gang –> dismissed by LA PD.
            Yes he had an argument with his wr coach, but if this is the big fact, you’d have to cut half of your roster.
            So or Big Chip steps up and speaks clearly to the fan base who backs the salary that Lurie pays him, or it’s right to put the heat on Philly front office. And these reports that very timely are putting DeSean reputation on the line very timely, smells badly …

          • oreofestar

            I understand that… and I really don’t know how serious any claims against Desean are but it is different, Riley has been accepted and forgiven but if Desean is a locker room probke or whatever I don’t know I am still a little upset he is gone I am just saying lets not make this a race thing

          • Token

            Your buying into the gang stuff.

            This was a football move. You dont need to try and justify it with other things.

          • mrparabolic

            I don’t know what the team’s internal reasons for releasing DeSean are, but he’s definitely thrown up gang signs and posted pictures of himself hanging out with gang members. That seems like “ties” to me.

          • therealpistolp

            Desean is an idiot for glorifying his neighborhood status on social networks, but c’mon man.. Half my timeline is people throwing up sets and half of em are in COLLEGE!! It’s a big difference between representing participating… Some people can’t deprecate where they came from from where they are and perpetrate… Then people who don’t know any better go overboard with what they see online… Desean ain’t in them streets!!!

          • mrparabolic

            I’m not saying that DeSean did anything wrong. I just think it’s a mistake to say “Ties to LA gang –> dismissed by LA PD,” when it’s pretty clear that DeSean has ongoing relationships with active gang members.

          • Tom w

            Police wouldn’t be investigating the robbery the insurance company would for insurance fraud. It’s coming. Not about crime. It’s about team, character, work ethic. The gang shit was just the last thing and destroyed the trade market. Lot more about djax and team will be coming out next week … Already hearing about missed meetings, bad relationship w chip and wr coach, not following offseason program etc

          • therealpistolp

            Well the Cooper situation was a race thing… Cooper associated himself with racist and Desean associated himself with gang bangers… Guess who I fear more?? Cooper got a chance to change, desean didn’t.. No suspension, no counseling sessions, not even a warning… Nobody even mentioned deseans issues until last month, so it’s not hard to question race.. Besides, nothing will ever change if everybody sweeps it under the rug..

      • Fryer

        That is an irrelevant point. Desean Jackson is not a Chip Kelly guy not one bit. Chip would never have drafted this guy. Think about how much time and emphasis this FO is putting into finding about the character of a player before making any moves. Chip has a very low tolerance for people who miss meetings and workouts and doesn’t care about how good you are (Mccoy missed workout) He wants players who put the team first and has faith in his system that no player is bigger than the team. Desean is a great player but Chip wants guys who can block and are willing to put their team first not argue with coaches or try and fight players during games. All this gang talk and his off the field friends are just an extra little nut tap to the ball kick this guy was as a me first football player. Another point is that since Chip was at Oregon the Ducks never had any superstar receivers. All the receivers were decent but i’d say the best besides Huff (Average) was Jeff Maehl and their offense was always great. Speedy skinny guys who aren’t good at blocking getting 10.5 million aren’t Chips idea of and ideal WR. Yeah Desean can stretch the field but I think the addition of Maclin, Sproles and the entire offense in a second year of this scheme absolutely makes up for Desean being gone. I hope we get a rookie WR sometime in the draft to add some depth though. To sum this up, Takeo your comment is ridiculous and Desean wasn’t ever a Chip Kelly guy physically or mentally. The Eagles will be fine and Chip is smarter and knows him better than us.

    • anon

      Every kid throws up gang signs trying to be cool. From Justin Bruner to miley twerking cyrus mostly its meaningless. Djax has a cleaner record than most nfl players.

      • Tikkit

        You’re right but when you pair that with actually hanging out with legit members, it’s different.

    • Maas

      One might even go as far as saying that Cooper’s incident made his ties with other team members better. After all when the media was trashing him most of his teammates came for his defense. Jackson is instead obviously trying to be something bigger than he really is with his record labels and gangbanger friends. Not the healthiest guy to be around and probably wont be missed by the team.

    • Hiral

      Ummmmm actually it’s the same moron because they both deal with stereotyping and judging. Your saying dont judge Riley but we are judging Desean. A man who has been aquitted or not related to any charges. But this is typical from you guys who lack proper football IQ. Especially thinking we are taking a WR in the first round. Watch when Fuller from Virgina Tech or Rashede Hageman from Minnesota is chosen and then we can reevaluate you trolls football IQ

      • Tikkit

        Screw you ahole. If you can’t at least try and have an intelligent conversation I don’t have time for you. Keyboard tough guy.

    • Eagles4Life

      Big assumptions in there, buddy. “One time use” and “accepted back.” That’s quite a leap you make. Carry on, though.

    • Skdamc Da Partystarter

      Do you honestly think Cooper only used that word once?

  • Greg Richards

    IMO, there isn’t the one smoking gun everyone is looking for. It’s all of it. The cap hit they’ll take for him, the bad locker room attitude, the gang concerns. Last year, they put up with his antics. Going into this offseason, when Kelly and Roseman sit around and discuss the long-term plans they see a tight 2015 cap situation with several contracts for eligible extensions. They discuss ways of improving their long-term cap flexibility and Jackson’s salary sticks out. Kelly doesn’t like him anyway(which is DeSean’s fault) and they investigate trading him. Ideally, that doesn’t leak, but it does and they can’t get anything for him. They’ve decided to release him anyway and the NJ.com article gives them the opportunity to improve the PR hit a little. Hey, unless you’re a conspiracy theorist, they didn’t write the article. There are some sources in there that might be them, but it’s also the LAPD. Some have said the Eagles fed this info to the media, but this has been out there for awhile. So why not use the article to your advantage? DeSean hasn’t earned himself any favors with his behavior.

    • Tikkit

      And was probably given ample opportunities to grow up and be a professional.

      • Token

        Hes just a A-hole kid that never grew up. Maybe all this can be a good thing for him.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Is it wrong of me for having a little hope that he goes back to his production level from before this season?

          • Token

            Hes not a Eagle anymore. I hope he never catches another TD.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Well I certainly feel a lot better about it, now.

    • Richard Colton

      can’t argue with any of this Greg. I can’t help thinking you’re right. If it was just him being an a$$hole, with no off the field stuff, he’s Randy Moss – you find a way to make it work. If he’s a hard working team guy, but has a serious off the field thing, he’s Marvin Harrison – you find a way to make it work.

      DeSean was both. Now he’s gone. I blame him for creating the problems, and the Eagles for failing to manage them.

      • Tom w

        Didn’t miss get traded for peanuts and cut by pats midseason and vikes mid season for bad conduct?

        • Richard Colton

          Yeah – that was an ugly end to his career. Vikes knew what they were getting – and they made it work until it was time to blow the entire team up.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        If we’re blaming Eagles for failing to manage them, I would have to say that Kelly while at fault for last yr, did inherit this problem. He probably gave him the opportunity to get things straight, but that didn’t happen in the end.

        • Richard Colton

          Yeah. I’m not blaming Chip as much as the entire organization. Let’s be clear though, most of the blame for this is Jackson’s.

          • Token

            Man is that point lost or what? Its everyone elses fault besides years of Jackson being a immature jackass. Maybe when they gave him the contract they thought hed grow up? He didnt. Maybe it was Andys call I dont know.

            He admitted to quitting on his team, their mistake was giving him the contract back then. I dont doubt that didnt sit well with Chip before he even got here.

          • Richard Colton

            Speaking of Andy Reid. The DeSean to KC rumors are hysterical. Remember the story last offseason about what happened behind the scenes of the ’08 draft? Andy called DeSean and told him we were drafting him but he didn’t want his family to be a problem, and DeSean was indignant. Yeah – thanks Andy Reed.

        • anon

          I think Vick and avant played a big part last year. Those guys gone they knew they couldn’t control him

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Yeah, I posted a variation of this, but essentially the same thing, on the article before this a little while ago. The release is more to do with things team-related than the off-field.

    • anon

      Why would you do any player dirty? How do you think it looks to other players who you may want as fas. I guess wed never takeca josh Gordon type.

      • Greg Richards

        I don’t think they did him dirty. They didn’t write the article. If you don’t want the public to believe you’re a gang member, maybe you have some common sense and don’t go around and throw up gang signs and hang out with gang members. Do I think that DeSean is involved in illegal gang activity? No, not until I see proof. However, he’s 27, not 21. He should be mature and professional enough to realize that who you associate with matters. An employer who is scheduled to pay him over $10M a year has every right to consider his off-the-field lifestyle when they’re conducting their risk/reward analysis and deciding whether to keep him or not.

  • Bobby

    I bet if his gangsta tail could stretch the field laterally he would still be an Eagle.

  • UKEagle99

    I’d be far more concerned if this was our 2nd biggest playmaker on defence. As it was CK struggled to get all his guys on the field last year and that was with a top WR down with an ACL.

    We’ll clearly draft another WR high and ease them in. 82/1332 will be replaced but I doubt there will be as many long plays and our toxic differential will drop as a result, unless the D steps up to cover the shortfall.

    If I am the Giants, Cowboys or Skins then I am glad Desean is gone from the Eagles but I still don’t want to defend them.

    • GEAGLE

      That’s my issue with it…don’t really care that he is no longer an eagle..I care that we didn’t play our cards right to be compensated. If we knew months ago that we no longer wanted him, then the move is to trade him before anyone expects us to trade him, which would be the owners meeting..and if their were REAL off the field concerns, which I’m not sure I believe, then you damn sure better unload him before people start to find out.
      ,,,
      The correct play would have been to get the best compensation you can for him at the combine…they failed to anticipate that Kempski could set off a crap storm without having any real intel and they probably thought they could get better value for him at the owners meeting or the draft. Philly media ran with so many rumors and speculation that GMs didn’t bite, and probably planned on really looking into the Desean situation and decide around the draft if they wanted to go trade for him…

      This was clearly a salary cap dump, getting him and his contract off the team was the primary goal…as things continued to snowball they realized they might have to end up trading him for much less then anticipated, and viewed this story by that hack Parker as an opportunity to provide some cover for them pulling a Banner move and getting rid of a player this city loves..getting him off the team was primary goal

      • ztom6

        I don’t think trades were allowed before FA started. The DJax rumors only caught fire a week and a half into FA.

        • anon

          Combine = tamper time

  • GEAGLE

    Well done Sheil…I saw the same exact situation…an opportunity to pull a banner move! softening the blow of public backlash

  • Harpy Eagle

    If you go back and look at the all 22 tapes, not just the highlight reels, I think you will see the reason DJax is gone. Kelly required 100% effort on evey play and DJax has a habit of taking plays off when he isn’t the primary target. If he is lined up left and Foles gets flushed to his right you constantly see him just jog around or stop instead of making an effort to work across the field to help his qb out. This is why Chip does not want him on his team despite the talent level.

  • cliff henny

    if Kelly’s offense is slammed into reverse because of no-jax, then he’s not the 6.5m genius we all hoping he is. still, a 5th/6th, something, anything.

    • GEAGLE

      Yup…better hang 30 a game still

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I’m not gonna have time to do this today, but I’m curious of what DJax & Coop’s stat line production looks like when split between Vick & Foles.

      I know Coop’s production significantly improved with Foles. But I’m curious if DJax production dropped off enough to have Kelly second guess him being a good fit with Foles & then wanting to ultimately go bigger opposite Coop?

      • anon

        I think it’s a fair point. If you look at stats coop had 3 big games and then he was basically neutralized. Kelly’s system also does different things every week, some games run, sometimes lots of screens, etc depending on the other team’s strengths so I think it’d be harder to compare now than Reid era where gameplan was always the same.

  • Blaquefire87

    Kelly dealt with Blount and other problem kids in Oregon and kept them… he also came in and dealt with Shady’s bus incident and baby momma issues and riley coopers terrets syndrome… Djax must have been a real headache.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Blount got suspended after he punched the kid. And there’s a significant differene between what players can get away with in college v the pros.

      • Blaquefire87

        he was benched and then came back and that was out in the open….djax stuff wasn’t out there in the open but got so bad that it leaked out. They tried to trade him last offseason.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Suspended for remainder of season: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4446898

          reinstated 2 months later, though.

          • blaquefire87
          • Malcolm Jones

            What I am saying is Kelly makes decisions not based on how he will be viewed, but does what is best for the team at all time.. if character issues can be rehabbed they will and the player gets revived, if they cant… they are dismissed… Forget the gang crap… Jackson wasn’t buying in

          • Malcolm Jones

            I couldnt remember my account info at first… I am Blaquefire87

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            No disagreement there. Def wasn’t following you at first, obv. Yeah, he really couldn’t give any less of a F of what others think. I think the character issue rehab is the important distinction between the Cooper incident and the Jackson story. The gang stuff was pretty much the straw that broke the back.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I noted that he was reinstated after 2 months.

      • Blaquefire87

        exactly, you aspect the professional paid athlete to be more mature and less reckless with his own image and the image of the organization.

    • mksp

      He told Shady to lay off the Twitter rants, and he did, didn’t he? As far as I know.

      • Malcolm Jones

        Thats what I was saying… everyone else heeded the warning

  • Engwrite

    All this gang stuff is media speculation, an attempt at rationalizing the release of one of the teams best players. We’ll never know. My attempt at rationalization goes through FO machinations, something that would’ve led to condemnation of Reid or Banner but is tolerable under Roseman/Kelly, who, for the time being, can do no wrong.
    The FO doesn’t believe the Eagles can win the SB this year but might the year after. By then DeSean’s salary, even if restructured, wouldn’t fit. That’s why they wanted Maclin on a >1 year deal. This offseason they worked to improve special teams. They’ll pick a receiver high, assume Sproles can fulfill a dimished DeSean role for the next two seasons while making the offense more TE centric and try to fix the Defense over the next two drafts and next years free agency. That’s their plan.
    I’m okay with it but lets lay off DeSean Jackson. We don’t know what he had to do with gangs or what compromises he had to do wen growing up. He was a very good player for the Eagles and the author of some indelible memories.

    • cliff henny

      media speculation, maybe they are connecting too many dots, but Jax was hanging out with some unsavory dudes. getting paid 10m, face of franchise or one of a couple, have to make much better choices.

      • Engwrite

        I think NFL teams make football decisions. Ray Rice was caught on tape knocking out his fiancee and as far as I know he wasn’t released. (Honestly now, can it get any worse that that?) Nor did the current Eagles FO release Cooper when his infamous tape went viral. I suspect the Eagles response would’ve been different had Maclin been healthy. (And I’m not equating Riley’s indiscretion to whatever is being alleged about Jackson) I seem to recall Andy Reid suspending Buckhalter for one game but releasing another player when they were arrested on weed possession charges. Buckhalter was an integral part of the team the other player was a scrub.
        I won’t disagree that Jackson has made bad choices on and off the field, but I suspect his release was a pure football decision (cap is integral to the NFL).

        • cliff henny

          oh, 100% agree it was cap driven. 3 people matter in eagles hierarchy, Kelly-jax butted heads with him, Lurie-am sure he freaked and way over reacted to jax ‘gang’ pics-nothing scares easier than wealthy old men w/ money and Howie-he didn’t want to pay jax. 0/3, really 0/5, sure kelly was worth 3 strikes alone

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            don’t forget Bicknell.

          • RIP illa

            Bicknell…Never Forget!!! :-)

            I still want him gone, unless the rookie we draft blows up for 1000+ yards. Too bad Reid already has his hooks in Avant. Would have loved to see him comeback and be a Receivers coach for us.

          • borntosuffer

            You want your kid hanging out with gang members and flashing gang signs? I’m not rich, but I sure don’t want my child emulating that type of behavior. DeSean isn’t even apologetic for any of it. I get mistakes in judgement. But, DeSean is choosing a lifestyle that has a unsavory outward appearance.

    • RIP illa

      “All this gang stuff is media speculation, an attempt at rationalizing the release of one of the teams best players. We’ll never know. My attempt at rationalization goes through FO machinations, something that would’ve led to condemnation of Reid or Banner but is tolerable under Roseman/Kelly, who, for the time being, can do no wrong.”

      This is a very good point and one that has not gotten the attention it deserves. I cannot rage against the FO for the cut that went on yesterday (other stuff involved…I’m gonna rage away at them.) and cannot take onus off of DJax. However that doesn’t mean that I’m NOT left with a horrible taste, or uneasy feeling about the FO and Chip. Add to that, the reports of the two times that DJax was assured that he wasn’t going anywhere, assurances made to him directly from Kelly. The general Weaseliness of Roseman, presumably learned from Banner. All the talk about the character culture and being honest with every player, and so forth. Plus all the indications that we (the organization) was done with doing business the “Banner Way”. The handling of this situation with Jackson, seems to spit in the face of all that was preached and reeks of hypocrisy.

    • borntosuffer

      “All this gang stuff is media speculation” So it makes more sense to speculate that for some other unknown reason the FO wanted to get rid of one of their best players instead of just looking at what we know to be true? The dude is hanging out with known gang members and is shown flashing gang signs. No apologies to his fans – including many kids. No sincere effort to indicate that he needs to do things differently and that his actions were wrong. Sounds more like reasons than rationalizations to me.

  • peteike

    what a loser, sorry no denying those pics, and connected to suspect in 14 yo old death. Good for Eagles just wish they got a draft pick. Lil late here just read nj.com article

  • birdsfanindc

    Kudos to NJ.com for doing some actual reporting. Every other writer was quoting “sources” and each other and calling it a story. Those guys at least went out and talked to some people, including cops, to try to shed some light on what was going on.

    I didn’t learn much about DeSean, who may or may not have gang ties. But I sure learned how useless all the writers covering the NFL are.

    I’ll keep following though, cause I have a boring job and need a distraction every now and then during the day. Besides, it’s fun to watch the disfunction. I wish I could quit you Philly media!

    • Adam G

      Pretty sure Jimmy Kempski did actual reporting. He was first and even mentioned that they could cut Djax.

      • birdsfanindc

        I like Jimmy but that was speculation at its best (or worse). He was on to something but didn’t care enough to look anywhere else for clues. You gotta do more than repeat what your sources say.

        • Adam G

          I think you couldn’t be more wrong. He reported what he heard, and implied many many times it wasn’t speculation. Even after Mclane came out and said he was positive Djax would be back.

          • Token

            Guy is still getting based for being right? Werent guys like McLane and Roob basically calling BS on his whole story?

          • Adam G

            They certainly were. He got murdered by every fan for basically making the whole controversy happen, which is absurd. He was first. stood by his story, and couldn’t have been more right. It’s not his fault he can’t divulge his sources. For a guy who is not supposed to have an inside track, he certainly shot called the whole situation.

          • borntosuffer

            Evidently, the Kempski haters can’t handle the truth. Like it or not, “sources” are part of reporting. And, damn, he was correct.

  • Kev_H

    It’s not playground ball and it isn’t about “chemistry”. Kelly’s about “here is what we need to do to win as a team”. If you’re not on board, you can play for another team. Plus every guy they drafted and signed is intelligent. I don’t think Jackson is too sharp. He’s not in a gang, but you have to know throwing up gang signs will cost you millions in the NFL.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Like I said yesterday, we’ll miss his hilarious attempts at use of proper english language. Plus, someone on here mentioned Maclin had a 23 or 24 on the wonderlic while Desean skipped the test? I know how little weight we sometimes put in the wonderlic, but don’t care, that’s some sort of indication anyway.
      Throwing up gang signs to DeAngelo lol, come on, you’re right, he isn’t very sharp, Maclin is much better spoken, much more intelligent, oh and didn’t you see Chip say Maclin attended all positional meetings and everything all season, that’s commitment, hopefully he can show us how it translates onto the field this year..
      All we can hope for right? Imagine Maclin actually puts up 80+/1200/8-10?
      We’ll forget about Desean

      • GEAGLE

        I will miss two things:
        1) His retarded use of the word “myself”
        2) Going into division games without him..dude would abuse Deangelo Hall constantly, then throw the gang signs in his face lol

        • G_WallyHunter

          Haha yup good list. I’ll miss his highsteps into the endzone that’s for sure.
          Won’t miss all the other crap, all we can hope for now is Maclin comes back better than ever. The Division game thing does blow.
          What kind of numbers did he put up in divisional games last year?
          Week 1- 104 and a TD, 7 catches, at Skins
          Week 5- 132, 7 catches, TD, At Ginas
          Week 7- 21, 3 catches, vs Dallas
          Week 8- 63, 8 catches, and a fumble, vs Ginas
          Week 11- 82, 4 catches, vs Skins
          Week 17- 28, 3 catches, At Dallas

          He showed up for 2 divisional games this year, 3 if you count week 11

          • GEAGLE

            Fairness week 7 was on FOles
            Giants second game was Barkley thinking the guys wearing Blue jersey were on our team…

          • anon

            Can’t throw to himself

  • mksp

    To people asking why DeSean wasn’t suspended or disciplined during the season, I think the answer is really simple:

    Plan was always to trade him this offseason – any public discipline would hurt his trade value. In hindsight, it wouldn’t have mattered, since he had no trade value anyway, but I think that was the intention.

    • borntosuffer

      We can argue all day about whether DeSean should have been released based on his actions. But, this makes sense in how the team handled things this year.

    • Kev_H

      I doubt if he did anything wrong. He’s just not smart enough to reliably handle all of the things Kelly wants his players to be able to do.

      • anon

        Smart and mature are two different things.

  • birdsfanindc

    I like Jimmy but that was speculation at its best (or worse). He was on to something but didn’t care enough to look anywhere else for clues. What NJ.com did wasn’t brilliant and perhaps not even good journalism, but the fact that it took so long to get a story on DJax’s background is quite telling.

    • anon

      Events were several years old and weren’t related to desean. I worked with a guy that was convicted of having child porn. Does that make me a bad guy?

  • peteike

    wow im reading more spin in these comments than any nonsense beat writer article. Ive never read more baseless FO bashing then right here. Hes in photos w guys tied to murders for f… sake. You dont think after Hernandez teams are leary and w that kind of article and photos its not good. Sure lots of players come from that but feel free to share a similar caliber player w same photos, stories? AR even tried to nip in bud, seems like the pattern continued and worsened.

    • RIP illa

      He was in photos with a guy acquitted of murder. And I think a lot of people already accounted for the Hernandez thing yesterday, so why would they come on here repeating the same things that they already posted??? And yes, the FO did an excellent job throughout this whole situation and is completely above criticism. Oops, forgot my sarcasm font.

      • peteike

        lot of connections to murders (pics w suspects, party outside of bldg w djax docs), way too close for comfort id guess for team. You are either on the side of dismissing that as par for the course or understanding why a team would distance themselves before its a real problem.

        • RIP illa

          No. I’m on the side of being able to look at everything and seeing fault in all parties involved, if there is fault to be found. Not absolving, nor following blindly.

          • peteike

            fair enough. Im just buying into them trying to be ahead of this before its a real potential problem. and maybe they jumped the gun a bit to their own “demise”. To me theres enough to get why. Ravens may take pr hit fir ray

    • Richard Colton

      You really happy with how the FO handeled this? Like there was nothing they could have done better?

      • Malcolm Jones

        The front office tried to trade him last year for a 2nd…this year someone found out in the media and started reporting which killed leverage… leaking would not have helped the eagles so I doubt they leaked it. THe FO was silent and really protected his character in the chip Kelly presser in florida. He said Desean did everything right.

        • anon

          Now they said he was late and missing meetings, etc. Which is it?

          • Malcolm Jones

            the thing is unverified sources said that… Chip Kelly said something different.. Kelly, from his own words, never defamed Jackson…now sources may have, but Kelly didnt

      • Kev_H

        They tried to trade him in 2011 last year and this year. I’m certain they sufficiently explored their options. It’s the writers who don’t get Kelly and can’t fathom what he is trying to do who are concocting speculative “answers”. The FO is doing football and I’m confident they’ll succeed with a title soon.

        • Richard Colton

          Glad you’re confident. All I know for certain is that our offense isn’t as good today as it was on Thursday.

          • Kev_H

            Wait and see.

      • peteike

        no I wanted a pick like everyone else as I mentioned below. Its all this other speculation

    • GEAGLE

      He has 9 teams interested…can’t be that bad

      • Adam G

        Shouldn’t always believe what you hear from agents of players.

        • GEAGLE

          Lol yeah cause he ain’t getting a job..just wait til he signs with the Super Bowl champs

          • Adam G

            I certainly did not say he’s not getting a job. But its the agents job to drum up interest. We have seen it so many times. A bunch of these teams that supposedly called have already said they haven’t.

          • GEAGLE

            But ATleast 4 admitted to having a level of interest…and if 4 are admitting it, then ATleast two more have interest under the radar…

          • Adam G

            And which 4 are those?

          • oreofestar

            OAK, KC, NYJ, CAR

          • Adam G

            Even though Carolina already came out and said they don’t have interest? Seriously, the only person that gains from news of a team being interested coming out is DJax. His agent plants these stories and who knows how much merit there is to them. Also the Jets have already said they haven’t contacted him. Let’s just see where he lands and for how much.

          • GEAGLE

            No, teams are confirming it

          • Adam G

            Exactly. How many people came out and said Jets were interested, yet they haven’t had the convo with their GM? You have to stop believing everything you read about teams with interest. Figured you would learn your lesson with what happened in free agency.

          • GEAGLE

            Tampa, bills just said they have interest at a price but will not get into bidding war, KC, Skins(Sheil also tweeted it), Raiders..
            ….
            Plenty of teams are interested, and are more concerned with price then wannabe gangbanging

      • peteike

        Ya he will have a job, no doubt but interested to see terms. Prove it deals w incentives or guarantees? I think its as simple as clean team image trying to avoid potential future problems w just a tad of the fit/money dynamics. More the former per getting zero in return.

  • Token

    In 6 postseason games DeSean Jackson had 19 catches for 321 yards and 2 TDs.
    His last 3 postseason games…. 8 for 114 and 1 TD.

    • Nfl All Day

      He was invisible for the better part of the Saints game. Wasn’t until Keenan Lewis got dinged that he got it going.

      • Token

        Jackson is invisible in a lot of tough games. Its been a trend for years.

  • EaglefaninAZ

    I’m still more irked about the Mathis thing. But that’s just me.

    • G_WallyHunter

      We should all direct our attention back to this situation, next article should be on this topic, come on, I guess he’s just trying to do what’s right for him, feels that he’s getting shafted as the best LG in football… Also the 33 yr old thing, he’s obviously trying to cash in before life after football, Helen Keller could see that from a mile away

      • GEAGLE

        Should start a pool….how long it will take to get our first non Desean related news thread, and what will the next topic Be? Think we are in for ATleast 7 more days of Desean news

        • Richard Colton

          Derrick Gunn reports several unnamed players think sports science is stupid.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol

        • Nfl All Day

          Tell ya the truth….I have more anger about the Sanchez deal. For a coach who values ball security as much as Chip says he does, how on earth do you bring in a guy who dwarfs Vick’s 33 picks in the last 4yrs, by throwing 69ints in the same time span? Honestly, we all know how dreadful it was holding your breath waiting for Mike to toss a pick. We just signed a guy who did it TWICE AS MUCH. Back up or not, what’s the point? I’ve been accepting of the incremental approach they’ve chosen this off season, but yesterday they took 2 steps backward. I really need them to have a stellar draft to regenerate the optimism I had for them taking the next step in 2014.

          • GEAGLE

            If it keeps Chip from wasting one of our 6 picks on a QB, I can live with it….then again! I have yet to let myself acknowledge that he is an eagle..DENIAL works for me

          • Nfl All Day

            Idk man. Said it before but shit, Josh Freeman has an actual skillset that fits your scheme. He’s not a running qb, but he’s more than functionally mobile. Big arm. Decent accuracy. Takes way better care of the rock than Sanchez. And still has room to grow. On a 2 yr deal I’d love to see what Chip could’ve got out of him.

            Sanchez is still recovering from shoulder surgery. If he threw that many picks when healthy, how effective will he be with the guaranteed loss of velocity that comes with a damaged throwing arm? You’d like to say he’s just a backup, but we know dwmn well in this town that sometimes you need the backup, even the backups backup, to perform. Pray for Nicky. That the lord watch over and adorn his path with featherbeds and soft landings. In Chip we trust. Amen.

          • GEAGLE

            Freeman is a talent for sure…I’m always skeptical of talented players that no one wants to touch…from a talent stand point he should have been one of the first QBs signed this offseason, but he has generated zero interest…people have real questions about his Charecter, and commitment to the game…..look I can’t disagree..talented cat for sure. A skill set that I would love to see Chip develop, but so many teams need QB talent yet none are taking a chance on the kid, I’m starting to wonder if he will even be in the league next year

          • Nfl All Day

            And its crazy b/c all ive been able to gatber is he failed a pisser for taking ritali , but dodged the Substance Abuse Program b/c he had a legally obtained, yet league prohibited prescription for Adderall. Pharmacist substituted his script, which I believe becsuse there was a nationwide Adderall shortage last year (dont ask why I know, just take my word). He takes almost 50 subsequent pissers without an issue to this day.Nonissue.

            Schiano and he have a falling out,he starts the year in a slump, and he’s eventually replaced by Glennon. Well, the entire team had a falling with Schiano, it was damn near mutiny on the bounty. Suprise his as is now less than a coordinator in NE now. And it’s pretty easy to see why a coach with a grudge would rather play the kid that he drafted than lose with a guy he doesn’t like from a prior regime.

            The headscratcher is Minnesota where he’s signed and thrown into the lineup 5 days laters. Asked to throw 53 passes in his first start on the road, when he obviously can’t have any real command of the offense. Nevermind the fact Peterson only got 13 carries to help the kid out. He goes on to suffer a concussion, and very public “worst game of his life” on national tv. The sum of this tumultous seasons setbacks and failures has buried this kid, and you’re right to question whether or not he gets another shot. But Sanchez’s 69 pick, butt fumblin ass…..no brainer. PAC-12 ILLUMINATI at work. If you see Matt Leinert or Jake Plummer around Philly International you’ll know what’s up.

        • #1GeagleFan

          you would make it happen if you started talking bout olb’s… maybe you have us an update on Joe Krueger? what about the idea of having barwin be the edge guy and grab a jack of all trades guy in the draft because they’re cheaper? please help stop the jackson talk!

          • GEAGLE

            1) Marcus Smith Louisville
            2) Attachuo G-Tec
            3) Demarcus Lawrence Blose (although his 300 suspensions dont scream Chip Kelly player to me) but Talented as all hell..

            Not Only do we need a rookie ROLB, but we also need to draft a OLB/ILB hybrid type who can back up both positions, which is what we pretended Casey Mathews was last year:
            1) Kyle Van Noy BYU he will impress Chip at the interview
            2) Christian Kirksey Iowa
            3) C.Jones FSU

          • oreofestar

            YES YES YES YES YES!!! ODB and then round 2 any of the guys you said not named Lawrence and I am doing flips

            Kirksey and Jones are guys I would love in rounds 3-4

          • GEAGLE

            Lawrence is a extremely talented WARRIOR, but not the soldier we will covet,. If we draft him, it means his Charecter checked out and that kid is just overflowing with talent for our coaches to work with….but I seriously doubt he will pass our Charecter screening

            Love to find a way and get two twos and land KVN and Smith, but that’s just greedy of me…KVN won’t make it past the chargers in round two

          • oreofestar

            To be honest my plan is simple get a WR with tht first pick and pray that Smith or KVN get to 54 if neither do hope Attaochu is there and then round 3 get your lb swingman Jones or Kirksey and then look for a DB or DL in rounds 4,5,7 but remember on of those last 3 picks go to wr or te again

          • GEAGLE

            May want to snatch up a 2nd WR in 3rd or 4th…figure in the 3rd their will be WRs available who would be high second round talent in a normal year…I say:
            2 pass catchers
            2 ILBs
            ..
            DL like Justin Ellis in the 5th

          • oreofestar

            Lets say we get 1 more pick from Brown or Graham like a 6th I say we get 2 pass catcher hell why not reunite the LSU boys Landry and ODB and then 2 lbs one pass rusher and another versatile one lets go Jones and Smith and then then a DL guy like Ellis, Hart or Coleman and then a DB probably a guy like Johnson who is versatile as well and then a flier pick maybe we redshirt Colvin I would love that

          • #1GeagleFan

            marcus smith would steal the starting role from cole by the middle of the year? i’m just nervous about winding up with another guy who gets blown out the hole, instead of blowing up the play…

          • oreofestar

            lol dat screen name lol

          • #1GeagleFan

            well its true that i love GEAGLE’s posts- I think he’s a big part of this site’s success- but I also was hoping to garner a chuckle or two

          • oreofestar

            I really want to believe you aren’t GEAGLE but I can’t :P

          • GEAGLE

            Silly…why the hell would I write that and have to hear 16000 comments saying it’s me? Get real..

          • oreofestar

            Lol GEAGLE I thought I was your number 1 fan though and where the hell is my fans :P me just kid me just kid

          • GEAGLE

            I might have a fan but Colton has a wine glass, he is way cooler than me! … ..we need to get you something like
            “OREOfestar’s Glass of Milk”

          • GEAGLE

            Marcus will improve our Nickle pass rush this year that’s for sure…Chip Kelly always talks about the importance of setting the edge in the run game, it’s imperative the OLB we draft will be ready to be a 3down OLOLB in 2015 so we can get rid of Coles contract,,,I believe Marcus and Attaboy should both be ready to be 3 down OLB by the beginning of their second year, where as I worry about it taking ATleast two years before a pass rush like Dee Ford can play the run at the next level..

            Doesn’t matter how good the ROLB we draft is, Cole is ELITE against the run, so while we are paying him, we will still want to use him against the run this year, which is good because starting off a rookie as a Nickle pass rusher seems to be a healthy way of bringing OLBs along without putting too much on their plate too soon….but on 3rd down, i think any of them can provide some pass rush as rookies…I like Marcus because the upside is there and I think he can turn into a complete OLB faster then some of the other OLB talent

        • oreofestar

          They ill probably put the why we passed on Byrd article again on Monday :P

        • G_WallyHunter

          Alright, over/under 5 days?

          • oreofestar

            under

          • GEAGLE

            Over

          • oreofestar

            woah is this just an article or does it have to be an open thread

          • G_WallyHunter

            Article.

            Open thread or mentioned about losing him in thread is o/u 14 days in vegas

          • oreofestar

            if it is just an article than definitely going under

          • GEAGLE

            An article about something related to eagles that doesn’t have anything to do with Desean..
            ,,
            Even if u want to include the next what they are saying, all the national dopes who have no imagination will write..because of the loss of Desean, eagles will draft so and so WR..where as last week all the simpleton were saying we would draft a DB

          • G_WallyHunter

            what are the guidelines here.
            An article with a title containing desean or jackson?
            Or, people arguing about something Desean related (not WR position related) in comments?
            We need a number for both

          • GEAGLE

            The first eagle article without a heavy Desean influence…like an article about a defender, kicker, OL…Mathis.anything but DESEAN!!!

          • oreofestar

            So if we are talking about draft targets and wrs are mentioned because of Desean?

          • GEAGLE

            That doesn’t count because we already know that’s coming. The what they are saying articles are a weekly occurrence..not like it even matters because every single national oppinion will start with: after cutting Desean Jackson, the eagles wil draft blah blh

          • oreofestar

            I am sticking with under

          • G_WallyHunter

            I take Under 5 days for sure then, there will definitely be an article not about Desean in next 5 days

          • oreofestar

            yep

          • oreofestar

            What if it like a draft article and they slip Desean in a sentence or somehting

      • EaglefaninAZ

        I get that. He just never struck me as the type to make noise when 3 years into a 5 year deal. I don’t want him going anywhere at all.

        • Adam G

          He’s not going anywhere. He’s paid well and is the oldest starting guard in the NFL. Eagles allowed him to test his trade value to see if he could get more money, which would never happen.

    • oreofestar

      now that I would not worry about, he wants a new deal but had zero leverage and the Eagles are gonna let him look for a trade just to prove he has zero leverage whatsoever he already signed a big deal before he was a pro bowler like he is now, plus is a 32 year guard and no one is trading for that plus he is up there with the highest paid at his position once he realizes he is stuck he won’t hold out or anything and Chip said that he trusts Mathis not to so don’t worry bout it

  • Nfl All Day

    I almost have to believe that the Eagles legitimately had no idea about these older murder investigations. If they did know this bombshell (real or perceived) was out there about to drop, and STILL failed to make a trade for whatever value they could salvage ….. They are completely inept, and quite frankly…..IDIOTS. I really want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    I’m so thoroughly exhausted by this story. I can buy “NO ONE MAN ABOVE THE TEAM” narrative. I think if they make the right move (ODB) in the draft, the offense will keep on trucking. I do however wish they would have found a way to right the ship, and bring the kid back into the fold. At 27yrs old, he’s far from the misunderstood youth many want to paint him as. Yet, I heard a caller on the radio this morning talk about the numerous times teams have dealt with players embroiled in far more obvious wrong doings. (Big Ben, Ray Lewis, Ray Rice, Talib, were a few of the examples given. ) Those teams stuck with the players through the exploration of the facts because they were integral to the teams chances of success. Ray Rice actually is a great example at this point in time.

    Not more than a month ago he was caught on camera trying to carry away his fiancé whom he had just knocked unconscious ON CAMERA, no doubt about it. Given his age, salary, and declining production it would’ve been easy for the Ravens to cut ties and move on. But they were willing to keep him in the fold, partly due to a vague understanding of his motives, partly because they need him, and hope he can return to form. I make no attempt to downplay the murder of 2 human beings, one a 14yr old child, but would like to reiterate the fact that in both investigations Desean was found to have ZERO culpability. There’s a slew of charges and degrees of guilt and conspiracy police could have used to persue him if he had any involvement in the crimes or the cover ups. They persued NONE.

    He’s guilty of signing a degenerate thug to his record label. Guilty of being a self centered team mate. Guilty of having a high cap number. And now he’s gone…Sentenced to reside with T.O., Lindross, Rolen, and others on the Great Philadelphia Hall of Why The F#ck Couldn’t We Make That Work.

    • Kev_H

      This is a straight football decision. People with limited football IQ can’t understand that so they speculate about other things.

      • Nfl All Day

        Really? Cutting a 82/1336/9 guy at the height of his ability and getting zero compensation is purely a FOOTBALL DECISION? I don’t think you could have made a dumber statement unless you suggested they give Freddie Mitchell a call to see what he’s got left in the tank. I hope you were being sarcastic….

        • Kev_H

          Your response is the perfect example- reciting some basic stats without looking deeper. Kelly’s taking things to another level. It’s not huddle up, call a play, run the play. He wants to keep teams on their heals with controlled chaos that demands more from players. I guarantee you Jackson was holding them back.

          • ztom6

            your high football IQ must apparently include ESP.

          • Kev_H

            I don’t have a high football IQ, but Chip is pretty clear on what he’s trying to do and it requires players to be sharper and more dedicated than normal. He’s not Norv Turner.

          • Nfl All Day

            I can’t even respond to that. Yeah….Kelly is on some next level sh%t. No doubt. But the numbers reflect how devastating the kid was in the system. For christ sake, you could line him up anywhere and dictate the defenses weakness and exploit it. He demonstrated a versatility, and consistency we’ve never seen from him before. There’s no basis to sit here and debate his value to that scheme. Not only should he be credited with his numbers, but a good portion of Shady and Coopers as well.

            I fully believe the offense will again be prolific in 2014, but they’ve jacked up the maybe factor big time by placing the bet that Maclin and Cooper, two guys who have NEVER demonstrated the ability to be a teams number one receiver, or strike fear in a defense, will combine with the TE’s and running attack to form a offense that’s better than the sum of its parts. And that’s really what this system is about at it’s corp.

            Chip is comfortable with players who can understand and execute the concepts that allow them to exploit mismatches and weaknesses. It’s the football equivalent of playing small ball. In his mind I’m sure he feels the concepts are sound enough to be successful, even with less than all world talent. But if you’re gonna sit here and tell us that Desean’s ability and play was holding this team back last year and thats why Chip chose to cut bait…..that this decision has more to do with X’s & O’s than charecter? I have no choice but to call you a F#CKING MORON! And guys on this site know I don’t just go around attacking people I disagree with. But for this clueless drivel your bringing I’ll make an exception.

        • James Skip Carl

          Also with two concussions and a one dimensional player weighing 170 lbs who is overpaid.

          • Nfl All Day

            That one dimension is pretty freaking deadly. 82/1332/9. I understand how insignificant results are to you intellectual types who value ……….whatever it is you value over moving the chains and scoring?

          • James Skip Carl

            I would rather pay two young guys 5 million than one Desean 10

          • Nfl All Day

            With this years crop that’s not a terrible proposition. But enough of this BS guilt by association crap. I guarantee you Jeff Lurie has dealings with people we’d consider scum if we see their actions in the light of day. You sit here and bash this dude who is without a doubt an idiot and a fool. But a fool who makes your football team better.

            Far as I’m concerned, he wasn’t implicated in any crime besides driving a car with dark windows while in possession of a bag of trees. If he was smart he’d have distanced himself from anyone who could tarnish his value. If the Eagles were smart they’d have tied the contract to his good citizenship, in and outside the locker room. They gave him the money AFTER knowing all this sh%t was out there. If they couldn’t live with it, that was the time to trade him. But they didn’t. They made a half hearted commitment to handling a very gifted, very childish athlete. And in the end, they screwed themselves. More importantly, they screwed us, by failing to do what was best for the team, and losing one of the leagues most talented receivers (this one dimesional label is lazy and inaccurate), and getting NOTHING in return?

            They can recover from the setback, but they shouldn’t have to. This is not a display of strength or leadership on the part of Kelly/Roseman. This is a GAFF. And another embarassment for the city and it’s fans. From an organization that purports itself to be THE GOLD STANDARD. Jackson doesnt deserve all the blame.

  • Explorer51

    Sheil or Tim, any thoughts on interviewing former Jackson teammates like Jason Avant, Leonard Weaver, Jon Runyan, etc? Or the QBs who threw to him including Donovan, Jeff Garcia, even Kevin Kolb? Obviously guys now on the team may be a bit reticent but others who played with him may have an interesting, and varied, perspective.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Fantastic idea, upvote 1000 times if I could, for one they may have varied opinions, and for TWO , they aren’t in any position to keep their mouth’s shut in the interest of their employers..

      • Richard Colton

        Token and Illadelph (two guys I respect on this board, even if one of them is perpetually in a bad mood) are going back and forth about this issue. Players have no problem generally voicing their displeasure when a player they like is moved. Look at the Saints with Sproles. In the age of social media, it’s harder to bottle that up and tow the company line.

        Does that mean anything? Not really. DeSean was probably aloof and didn’t have friends in the locker room. Nothing suggests he was a locker room cancer. Not sure what kind of insight the players would have into the off field stuff. especially considering he didn’t have friends on the team.

        • Adam G

          Aloof would be a nice way of putting it.

        • anon

          They talked to Vick who is actually close to him I think djax and chip just didn’t get along

          • peteike

            Im surprised Vick didnt get in his ear about avoiding bad influences. Maybe he did and he didnt listen, who knows

    • GEAGLE

      I’d prefer not hearing McNabbs opinion of anything. #5 WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU!!!(unless you booed him on draft day :)

      • Dominik

        So, do you guys thinks Deseason Jackson has a future with the Eagles?

      • Michael Myers

        get real…Everyone’s opinion is at least as worthwhile as yours…and unlike you, mcnabb was actually in the locker room. .. worked with him on the practice field and threw to him in games.
        wouldnt mind hearing his take. dont click if u dont like ge

      • James Skip Carl

        Mcnabb is an idiot, I booed him Draft day and I’m still booing him, he is the most overrated player in history. Imagine Randall in his offense.

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    Ray Rice – Indicted Thursday, married Friday.

    • GEAGLE

      Divorced Wednesday

    • Adam G

      I don’t even think that matters. Dude is going to jail.

      • GEAGLE

        No he isn’t…he will use the wife is a narcoleptic defense..works every time!

        • Adam G

          Good one. I almost feel like the Ravens want him to get convicted so that they can cut him without ramifications and claw back some of his bonus.

          • GEAGLE

            Very well could be

      • anon

        She can’t be compelled to testify against him. He’s also somehow still employed – by a championship team no less.

        • Richard Colton

          Sure she can. Spousal priviledge doesn’t cover crimes committed before the marriage.
          Jesus – it just occured to me that Rice may be getting married because he thinks that. How dumb is he? I expect more from a Rutgers grad.

          • Adam G

            Was thinking the same thing.

          • GEAGLE

            Help him out and send him a tweet…it probably gets retweeted by 2million people due to laughable stupidity…I’m assuming when you get knocked the F out and your lifeless body Is being dragged around the casino, you have enough leverage to not have to sign a prenup lol

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Did he actually graduate? Not saying it in disrespectful manner. Could have come out early and not finished up.

          • Adam G

            It really doesn’t matter. I’m sure they have video of the incident from start to finish because it was in a casino. He’s done.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            What I said had absolutely nothing to do with the video.

          • Adam G

            The more evidence you have, the stronger sentence you can go for in a plea. Standard stuff.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            You’re missing my point. I was speaking strictly about him having graduated, because RC called him a Rutgers grad. At no point was I speaking about the case.

          • Richard Colton

            not sure how he didn’t – what with those softball Athletes Only classes at RU e.g. “Wine Insights” and “Insects and Man”

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            A wine class in college? I’m jealous…. I honestly don’t know if he came out early or not, that’s all I was saying. Very well may have come out after senior year, or redshirted.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        It’s far from a lock. What’s his criminal past? If there’s nothing significant there, more likely a suspended sentence with some probation and counseling.

        • Adam G

          I think you off. They have video of it and just bumped it up to aggravated assault. If he pleads, he will be suspended by the NFL and would pave the way for his release.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I said it’s far from a lock to build in the possibility I’m off. However, as a former employee of the court system I can tell you, with a significant level of confidence, that he’s likely not seeing jail for a first time offense (I don’t know of any record he may have). The video I’ve seen doesn’t even show him hitting his fiance, but him dragging her out. The charge of aggravated assault is likely inclusive to all lesser counts, to which he may or may not plea (I know it says one count of aggravated assault, but they usually list the most severe instead of all possible counts). I can’t see him taking a plea to something that’s going to land him time. So if there’s a plea, we’re probably talking a suspended sentence for the the lower limit of the charge to which he pled, with 2-3yr probation with relationship and domestic violence counseling, as well as some sort of community service/outreach program. Just my really educated guess. Could be wrong, but it’s hard to see him landing time for an altercation she apparently started.

          • Adam G

            They didn’t release the video from inside the elevator, which is what they are basing the charges off of. We will see. But if he pleads, he will be facing punishment from the NFL which will allow the Ravens some relief.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Maybe, his cap hit is way worse than DJax’s if released, so I think Biscotti’s statement standing behind him is with that knowledge…. He might get a 4-8 game suspension, but I’m not familiar enough with the league’s conduct policy to say how it weighs domestic issues.

  • Mike

    Why did it take an article on NJ.com to get all this info about DeSean? Why didn’t any of these “great” Philly writers ever write anything about this?

    • Nfl All Day

      It is amazing that it took so long when everyone was looking for the smoking gun.

    • Kev_H

      They are too reliant on team access to effectively do their jobs. They can’t go rogue and start scrutinizing off-the-field stuff without hurting important relationships.

      Don’t misread that. Their jobs are to work with the teams and report on football, not pry around in other things.

      • Mike

        Thanks, I agree they do not want to hurt Eagles relationships, and they only report on football stuff…..but this DeSean info is part of the football stuff and got him kicked off the team, so they should have been informing the Philly sports fans of the storm that was brewing for a long time.

    • PhillySean

      I don’t know, but a similar thing happened to Jerome Brown. He suddenly went from “that guy who wears 99 and tackles RBs for a loss when he isn’t scaring the cr@p out of QBs” to a ring leader that has might have to go in order for the team to get a fresh start.

      This was when Rich “I hire ex-Jets!” Kotite first took over. The bad stuff just showed up overnight.

  • Glenn Articolo

    The Eagles did the organization that signs DeSean Jackson a huge favor. Whether it’s the Chiefs or Jets, they will be signing an inspired and humbled Jackson at a tremendous discount. I do not agree with this move at all. It is interesting that the team is foolish enough to waste a fifth round pick on Darren Sproles, a guy who was going to get cut by the Saints. But receive nothing in return for Jackson, a 27 yo Pro Bowl receiver, coming off his best year. This is a significant loss for this organization. How are the Eagles going to use the new cap space? Drafting the #1 WR is a must. But there are available free agents left like Sanantonio Holmes, Anthony Spencer, and Rob Bironas, who can improve the roster, and you don’t have to break the bank. The Eagles have an opportunity to win this year. Let’s see what the Eagles do going forward. That is the only way I see that this decision isn’t a complete loss.

    • GEAGLE

      Santonio? Spencer? Dude…..

      • Glenn Articolo

        Santonio Holmes would be a reasonable one year option to fill the void of Desean Jackson while the team grooms the WR they draft. It is better than what they have on the roster now.

        • GEAGLE

          I can promise you they won’t even say his name inside the Novacare complex..

          • Glenn Articolo

            Okay. Maybe Holmes is a bad character guy. But there is a void in the offense that Jackson leaves that is not easily filled. I don’t know about you, but I do not have confidence that Maclin fills it, coming off an injury. I don’t think anyone they draft will fill it in their first year. Any ideas? Holmes at least has a similar skill set, and could possibly be reined in for one year. But if there are better options with better character, that would be ideal.

          • GEAGLE

            Doesn’t matter how I feel….Desean would be here if we thought we couldn’t over come it…

            Ertz will ATleast produce 33% more then last year (ATleast he should)
            ..
            Confident Sproles will catch 50-60 balls for ATleast 500yards

            Sproles production and the extra production we get from Ertz, could combine to replace his production..If that holds true, Maclin may not out perform Desean, but he will give us more then we got last year. So we should still get a net gain…

            And that doesn’t even include the two WRs we will add in the first 5 rounds..

            Unless FOles is completely against losing Desean! doubt it’s the end of the world. Just sucks that we lost him and still have less draft picks them we had in years

          • GEAGLE

            Correction: Maclin may not outperform Desean, but he will give us more then we got last year out of Avant…so it’s still should be a net gain

          • Glenn Articolo

            What happens if Maclin isn’t healthy? We are counting on a right knee with a history of two torn ACL’s. I really hope that Maclin, Ertz and Sproles produce as you project. It is not good the team is counting on Maclin as a primary rather than as a supporting role. I am sure they draft two wideouts. However, Jackson was Foles favorite target, and he caught 70% of his targets. I would feel more comfortable if they picked up a guy like Holmes who could feel a void for a year.

          • GEAGLE

            Hopefully we can get a month out of him ATleast, so we can ease rookies in…

            If you look at last years stats, FOles was his most productive throwing out of two TE sets..Expect more Celek/Ertz

          • oreofestar

            Only a month?!?!

          • GEAGLE

            If he is going to breakdown like above poster worries about, ATleast give us a month…losing him in camp would be bad

          • oreofestar

            I think he will be fine

          • GEAGLE

            Coop was and is FOles fav target…and as a rookie, FOles showed decent chemistry with Maclin! like the walk off TD reception against Tampa

          • Glenn Articolo

            Look, I know Foles likes Riley Cooper. And the popular perception is that Cooper was his favorite target. But you can look up Football Outsiders, and Sheil Kapadia’s recent article, which state that Foles favorite and most successful target was Desean Jackson. Be that as it may, I understand that Foles has a great chemistry with Cooper and Maclin. Lets hope that Maclin is healthy and as good as ever. And Cooper still gets the single coverage he enjoyed all of last year.

          • oreofestar

            Foles better like Beckham yo

          • GEAGLE

            21 other teams better NOT like Beckham yo!!!

          • oreofestar

            31 teams better not like Beckham yo!!! seriously the only wrs I would take over Beckham are Watkins and Evans who may both be top 10 picks

          • GEAGLE

            I’d prob agree with that…

            Lions spending a lot of time on Barr smh…

          • oreofestar

            well f*** them unless they want to be our trade partners for Evans then don”t f*** them

          • GEAGLE

            FOles would have never trusted Desean enough to attempt the TD throw to Coop in the saints game IMO

          • Glenn Articolo

            Ok. Maybe so. But Foles apparently trusted Desean enough to launch more throws his way than he did Cooper. Also, Cooper was always in single coverage. Desean was doubled with high free safety help on most plays outside of the red zone. I would agree with you that Foles was more likely to launch a jump ball to Cooper in single coverage without separation than he would Jackson.

          • oreofestar

            well actually the numbers of Jackson and Cooper under Foles wee identical Desean just got waaaay more targets than Cooper from Vick which is the difference in stats

          • Glenn Articolo

            I thought the same until I looked it up. Foles threw more targets to Jackson than Cooper. Vick did more so. But so did Foles. Contrary to popular belief.

          • oreofestar

            I am talking about yards

          • oreofestar

            It sucks that DJAX is not with us but think about this

            DJAX
            Cooper
            Avant
            Smith
            Mccoy
            Ertz
            Celek
            Casey

            Mac
            Cooper
            ODB
            Benn(hopefully)
            Better Ertz
            Sproles
            Mccoy
            Celek
            Landry/Mocrief/Coleman/who knows

            I tend to think that second group is an improvement

          • #1GeagleFan

            with jackson gone our yards may come down overall, but with more ertz in the redzone, our points could go up, and maybe most importantly, our redzone td’s might go up, especially when we’re at the end of a game when we have to have six to win-that’s probably the biggest drawback of jackson’s game- if there’s two minutes left in the game and the team is on the twelve yard line- he doesn’t help your chances of getting in the endzone very much

          • Glenn Articolo

            Well if there is a silver lining to this is that at least DeSean Jackson will not be on the field when the team is in the red zone. He was completely ineffective there. Kelly, for some reason, felt obliged to put him out there. I agree that 2 TE sets, and a bigger WR would make us more effective in the red zone.

          • #1GeagleFan

            hard to take your best receiver off the field when you get down close, but i think- when down near the end zone- not having him will be addition by subtraction….but if he’s on the roster and in the game, i imagine its hard for a coach to pull him off the field when you get in the redone, for a couple of different reasons

          • Nfl All Day

            Preach

      • oreofestar

        only wr I could see them maybe giving a damn about is Rice but even that will not happen, we are done signing players unless we take a random flier on some camp body

        • GEAGLE

          We have plenty of 6’2 camp bodies at WR….if we signing Bodies I assume it would be for the DL

          • oreofestar

            I agree…I am just saying if they wanted anyone it would be Rice but I don’t think they want anyone

    • Michael Myers

      waste? a 5th on sproles?
      nothing for jackson….gee…maybe there is a reason…
      umm…maclin was drafted in the first round…
      we are not grabbing any of those guys…

      • Glenn Articolo

        If sproles was reportedly going to be a salary cup cut before the eve of free agency, then giving the Saints a 5th round pick is a waste. You could have had Sproles on the open market for free. The same reason why the Eagles couldn’t get a draft pick for Jackson. With this new personnel group, in a draft this deep, that is not an insignificant pick.

        • cliff henny

          Saints put out cutting rumor, heard teams getting excited, pulled it back. saints played it well. if eages didn’t give 5th, were other teams ready to give picks, per reports.

          • Glenn Articolo

            I suspect Eagles got played by the Saints. Anyway, I wish Howie and company would have taken a page out of the Saints playbook, and received a draft pick out of Jackson. There was no incentive in cutting Jackson yesterday, when there could have been a market for him during or immediately after the draft. Just like the Saints did, have other teams believe other teams were interested in Jackson’s services. WR needy teams would have been more receptive around draft time than this week.

          • Maggie

            There was an incentive for cutting Jackson. At least one comes to mind. People were never going to shut up, would just keep the whining going on and on and on, like right here on this board. Now the deed is done and hopefully the endless noise will die down. No matter how many millions of words fill the Internet or the TV, the past cannot be undone. So move on.

          • Nfl All Day

            If the Eagles gave a crap about the constant whining than Byrd would be an Eagle, and Dawkins would have never left. Public opinion has no bearing on their decision making. See Michael Vick signing. …..

          • cliff henny

            suspect incorrectly. saints were fielding picks, not everything Howie does from brushing his teeth in morning to kissing his wife goodnight in a clusterF.

    • #1GeagleFan

      i think you’re right that the next team will get a super focused and productive year out of jackson, but it’s just one of those things- the Eagles were not going to get a super focused jackson….its kinda like my wife- she’s hot as shit, but she’s not in to doin’ it like she was five years ago, but if i cut her loose and she hits the open market, some lucky guy out there gonna get his shit banged but good…it’s just circumstance

      • Adam G

        I like that analogy a lot. Although I really think there is no such thing as a focused Desean.

        • #1GeagleFan

          yeah, and now i’m depressed too from thinking about not getting laid

      • GEAGLE

        Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha awesome man!! Well played!!’

        As for the Hot wife…pics or it didn’t happen!!! :) JK

        • #1GeagleFan

          I showed my wife the post and that you were asking for her pics…. she said Quote ” if you put my picture up on your stupid little football website you aint never gettin laid again”….i said Quote “okay dear”

          • GEAGLE

            HAha I’m just teasing.. Smart man, knows when to bow down to his woman

  • Michael Myers

    good espn vid about…….ta..da…desean

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9756561

  • mike

    Jackson skipped out on his exit interview with Chip Kelly after season ended.

    • mike

      Yeah, he did not even show up for his exit interview with Kelly.

    • Brian

      Because he’s a douche. Someone else can deal with his me first attitude.

    • PhillySean

      where did you read this?

  • GEAGLE

    Rap sheet saying skins interested…awesome

    • cliff henny

      think eagles might care too much about locker room, but ‘skins w/ jax and hall, they don’t give a ratzass about culture

      • GEAGLE

        They would sign Ray Caruth if he got released and could help them

        • Nfl All Day

          Ray Ca”RUTHLESS” …..upvotes^^^^^

      • Brian

        They’ll keep losing, and we’ll keep winning.

    • Will

      Washington interested in DJax? Deangelo Hall will love that…

      • GEAGLE

        According to Rappaport

        • oreofestar

          Yeah….no

    • Nfl All Day

      I would prefer that to Dallas or New York.

    • Kev_H

      Wow. He’s not popular there. I think they’d sign him for spite and mess with him.

  • Brian

    I believe in Chip Kelly’s plan. He proved all of the naysayers wrong last year, and I expect the same this year.

  • GEAGLE

    The only thing that matters to me is how the Neapolitan Dynamite #BOOM feels about this…would he rather have Desean, or does he feel he is an unnecessary distraction…if The Rainmaker is indifferent to all this then I’m fine with it…if he is pissed, then this is horrible…

  • Explorer51

    Re: replacing Jackson’s production. Actually, the metric is replacing both Jackson and Avant’s totals, which is 120 catches and 1800 yds. Consider these non-scientific projections (using career avg for Maclin and NO avg for Sproles) Maclin 65 catches/850 yds, Sproles 75 catches/650 yds; also it wouldn’t be ridiculous to assume that Ertz could go from 36 for 469 to 50 for 700; and add in a rookie WR contributing 35 for 450…the sky’s not falling.

    Assumptions here, obviously: Maclin’s recovery is as good as team thinks it is and Sproles still has tread on his tires. But what if either or both of those guys don’t have average years but career ones? Or that Ertz has a major breakout year? Or rookie WR becomes a star in Kelly’s system?

    A bunch of ifs but it could happen…

    • Nfl All Day

      I think your logic is sound. I fully expect Ertz to carve himself a bigger niche, and surpass Celek as the teams starting TE. I think Cooper sees an increase in targets and thus production, but don’t expect him to be a Pro Bowler. Where I have my doubts is with Maclin. I admit it’s largely my own bias towards him, but I’ve never believed in the kid. 2 ACL’s aside, he’s always coming off the field with bumps and bruises, even if he does return the next series. He’s in line now to function as the number one, and I just don’t think he’s built for the role. I think he lacks toughness, and I think it’s fair to question how explosive he’ll be returning from another major surgery. Coming out of Missouri his skill set was ideal for this system. If he were a compliment to Jackson or another WR who garnered the defenses best pass defender, I’d have more optimism. As it stands he’s likely to draw the top CB most weeks. We’ll have to wait and see what he’s really made of entering this second phase of his career. Add it to the list of gambles we hope management got right……In Chip we trust?????

      • Maggie

        Why do you assume that Maclin is automatically going to be #1? Are the Eagles somehow prevented from signing any other WR for the next 6 months?

        • oreofestar

          I mean unless a rookie breaks out then yeah, there is no one left on the market (except Desean :P) who is better than Mac

        • Nfl All Day

          http://nfltraderumors.co/2014-nfl-free-agents/

          Yes. By the fact there is nothing worth signing out there. Here’s the list of remaining unsigned free agents. You tell me which terd they should polish…..

          • Maggie

            My my. You mean somehow the draft has happened already and we didn’t notice? Cut down day in training camp? Cut down day in some other league has already happened? Of all the players in the Year of the Wide Receiver, there is NOT ONE that the people actually running the organization could possibly use in Chip Kelly’s plans?

      • Explorer51

        You have to assume that Kelly knew Jackson wasn’t going to play for him this season; trading or releasing is a Howie issue. And if that is correct, his brain has been tailoring a non-Jackson offense since one minute after the Saints’ loss; not only in replacing catches, yards, and TDs but in drawing coverage and opening up the field for the running game. No one should believe that this was a hasty decision…we don’t know Kelly that well but there’s no way he would drop a productive (stat wise) guy without a replacement plan. Plus, how often do we see the Eagles eat $6M? Um, never.

        Totally different circumstances but Kelly lost his number 1A receiver last season when Maclin went down and then his starting QB a few games in and he spitballed those losses into the #2 offense with a former #4 WR embroiled in controversy, a declining #3 in Avant, and a committee of TEs. If we get a real talent in the draft, I’d feel pretty confident about this year.

        • Nfl All Day

          The fact they tried to trade him last yr proves it wasn’t a hasty decision. It was however poorly executed. Strange as it sounds, if they had only made an effort to squash the trade rumors it would have increased their odds of getting a trade done. Instead, as the perception of a broken relationship grew, teams began to realize they could wait for Jackson’s dismissal and not only save a draft pick or two, but likely get him at a lower price than the $10.5M left on his deal for 2014. I find it inexcusable to let a Pro Bowler walk in his prime and get nothing in return. They screwed up. Plain & simple. And if ultimately you couldn’t make a trade happen, I doubt he rolls over like he did in 2011. This time he had ten and a half million reasons to not to become a load.

          • johnr

            Poor execution is right. Why do this now? I had always thought they would release Jackson after this season. It would have cost less in dead money and they could figure out if Maclin is back and whoever they draft is good enough. Now they have to HOPE that is the case. Considering how reluctant the Eagles have been to take risks in free agency, cutting Jackson is awfully risky.

          • Nfl All Day

            http://nfltraderumors.co/2015-nfl-free-agents-list/

            The only silver lining there is the 2015 Free Agent WR class, which is ridiculous! All we have to do is HOPE Demaryius shakes loose.

  • Northeaster

    The “gang connections” stuff is tenuous. NJ.com went for the page clicks on that one. The only people who actually believe DeSean was throwing up gang signs are over 50. DeSean’s “gang banger friend” was acquitted. I assure you, there are people still on the Eagles who have great “gang ties” than DeSean. This was about money. Chip Kelly thinks DeSean is too small to be a #1 WR.

    • Brian

      I’m under fifty, and I know what a gang sign looks like. He’s a jaccass, and he threw a gang sign.

    • Maggie

      “This was about money, Chip Kelly thinks DeSean is too small to be a @1 WR.” That’s 2 completely different topics.

      • Northeaster

        Not really. DeSean was making #1 WR money, and Chip wants a big guy as his #1. You can’t pay two #1 WRs.

  • GEAGLE

    Desean “put out word” that he is interested in joining the Raiders lol Barry Finkle says….
    …Seeing him as a Raider would almost be worth this horrible past few weeks

    • oreofestar

      YEEEES… that would be ideal I would rather have seen him as a Raider for nothing than get a 6th and see him in SF at least we do not have to see Desean for 3 years and he would on an irrelevant team that would never concern us

      • GEAGLE

        And the ridicule that will come from a team in Oakland signing a player that throws up LA gang signs…
        ..
        Not to mention playing with Matt Swag will drive him insane which should be good for a laugh

        • oreofestar

          I hope it is a nice long term deal, it would be great…I will miss DJAX though I need a new freaking favorite player, gotta ponder on it

        • Nfl All Day

          Their so desperate to be relevant again how could they possibly complain?

      • Nfl All Day

        Throwing up WESTSIDE signs in the NFC Title game……uuhhhhggg

  • Glenn Articolo

    I bet whoever signs Desean Jackson will be extremely pleased with the results. Desean is humbled and will have something to prove. Whether it’s in KC, New York, or Oakland. Remember what happened to Cris Carter when we cut him. I am not saying that Jackson is Carter, but I will not be surprised at all if Jackson has a great year.

    • oreofestar

      I think they will be disappointed if they expect him to have another 1300 yard season outside of the offense I think if he goes to lets say OAK or KC he will be about a 60 catch 950-1000 yard guy

      • Glenn Articolo

        A 60 catch 950 yard 8 TD season in Oakland or KC sounds about right.

        • oreofestar

          TDs is high much higher than his average I would have said like 6 but that sounds about right

      • Kev_H

        On NFL Network radio, Andy’s buddy, the Burger King, said Andy has no interest in Jackson according to conversation in Orlando. Eskin also said Chip told him Foles is the QB for the next 999 years.

    • Maggie

      Not for 10 or 12 million though.

      • Glenn Articolo

        Nope. Thanks to the Eagles pr effort with nj.com, he will be lucky to get 3.5 million plus incentives.

        • Adam G

          Your lack of knowledge is showing. He will def get more than that and there is nothing to show that Desean will be humbled by ANYTHING.

          • oreofestar

            Oh yeah…a team like Oakland will give him a deal very similar to what he had, I think contract length and guarantees will be lower but he will still get 8-12mil a year

          • Maggie

            Why would anybody pay him that much? Remember this is the Year of the Wide Receiver.

          • oreofestar

            because….Oakland

          • Adam G

            I think if he gets 7.5-8 a year. I would guess effectively 2 years at the most.

          • oreofestar

            I look at Decker’s deal and say he will get more, he is getting low guarantees on what my guess is a 2 year deal I GUESS Oakland gives him 2 years $18.5mil with only 5 guaranteed

          • Glenn Articolo

            If this was just about football, I would say yes. But Jackson’s rep has taking a huge hit. He was alleged gangster ties, and has a rep as a bad locker room guy, and a me first player. I would be surprised if he gets Decker money.

          • oreofestar

            Uuuum never been arrested, all of the allegations are simply speculation and if he checks out a team like OAK will give him money

          • Glenn Articolo

            I agree that the allegations and insinuations are self serving and ridiculous. I hope DeSean gets paid fairly and has a great career.

          • Kev_H

            Yes he was arrested. Hand cuffed, charged, copped a plea….read up.

          • Glenn Articolo

            I do not believe he is getting 15-16 million dollars over two years. Not with the baggage.

          • oreofestar

            I think teams will look into it but if there are not major problems or any actual charges or anything I can definitely see a team going in for him just keeping the guarantees low

          • Adam G

            Of course you don’t, you think he’s getting 3.5 which is laughable.

          • Glenn Articolo

            3.5 mil with easily obtainable incentives for one year, like Hakeem Nicks, would not be a surprise. I don’t think it will be 15-16 million as you said.

          • oreofestar

            Desean is in another league compared to Nicks…not the same

          • Kev_H

            They’re numbers are pretty close but going in different directions thanks to Chip and Nick.

          • oreofestar

            lol the Redskins gave Andre ROberts more

          • Maggie

            Whether he gets low or high is probably not contingent on an article published by anyone, though. Most teams make decisions based on (hopefully) improving their team. They are not overly concerned about our opinions. Probably a good thing, because there are so many different opinions out here!

          • Maggie

            You have a point.

          • Glenn Articolo

            Speaking of lack of knowledge, aren’t you the one who said DeSean Jackson never gets double covered? Please. My point is that DeSean will not break the bank. It remains to be seen what the market bears. I do not think it is nearly as much as some people are posting on here.

          • Adam G

            Did you not see what Maclin said? You are a fool, seriously. Thinking that WRs get doubled is some low level fan stuff. Safeties roll, that’s a part of their job.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Any team seriously considering signing DJax has to take into account that he could be facing discipline from the league regarding the personal conduct rules. I’m sure Goodell will have an investigation launched.

  • usmcnole

    Excellent article, sheil. You’re a beast

  • Glenn Articolo

    It will be very interesting to see how productive Riley Cooper is when he doesn’t enjoy the single coverage as much as he did last year. Or how effective Maclin will be as a true number one receiver. Alot of people are extrapolating Jackson’s stats and such. But realize that no one else on the team drew the high free safety respect the way Jackson did.

    • Adam G

      Seriously enough with this single coverage argument already.

      • oreofestar

        well in fairness it does matter and do not think the defense will respect Mac the way they did Desean but time will tell

        • Adam G

          I don’t think its as easy as that. Desean was never double covered.

          • oreofestar

            That is not true sometimes safeties were rolled onto Desean and he was indeed doubled

          • Adam G

            Safeties rolling is not doubled.

          • oreofestar

            eh…..ok I guess but a lot of the time Desean was covered my a safety and a corner

          • Adam G

            That’s because when you see this he is running a deep route that has safety help regardless of the WR.

          • oreofestar

            The defense was paying way more attention to Desean than Riley though hopefully Mac can garner attention like that which can allow Cooper and ODB to roam free

          • Adam G

            We will see, but I think that had more to do with the play design.

          • oreofestar

            Yep time will tell

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            People really seem to underestimate the effectiveness of Chip’s play design.

          • Adam G

            Had a whole season’s worth of evidence that showed how good he is. Made Nick Foles look like a high end QB. I don’t think this can be overlooked.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I thought Nick looked good in that awful debacle that was 2012. But I 100% agree with your first sentence. Someone, maybe you, even, posted a great link showing a favorite play of Chip’s that shows just how effective his route designs are. Something showed in the KState game a couple years ago that was used against the skins for a Celek TD.

          • Adam G

            If Desean ran a route where the safety rolled his way, that is the design of the play. Desean is not some ultra special WR where the teams need to pay that much attention to him.

          • Maggie

            Yes. NFL.com had him ranked 31st among wide receivers just a year ago. Maclin was rated higher prior to injury.

          • Maggie

            No other WR could possibly be signed between now, the draft and the first game of the season?

          • oreofestar

            No I never said that…?

          • Nfl All Day

            Unless you’re talking about a UFA, who would you possibly want them to sign? The cupboard is bare.

          • Maggie

            It’s March, not August.

          • oreofestar

            well who the hell are they signing?

          • Maggie

            How do I know? How does anybody know? My point is all the people on here assuming they know what the roster is going to look like come the first game of the season, nearly 6 months from now. None of us know nuthin. Think, hope, dream, suppose, yes. Know for a fact what’s going on inside the organization? Nuthin.

          • oreofestar

            Everyone acknowledges they will draft a wideout early but as far as FA go the best wr is Sidney Rice who would be what our number 4 wr so unless some team releases a MAJOR wr I think it is fair to say that Mac will be the number 1 guy and then Coop and a Rook will be the number 2 and 3 guys

          • James Skip Carl

            Kenny Britt

          • oreofestar

            Ok I would rather pick through the UDFA and hope before signing Britt

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I guess you could see some guys released post draft & trimming rosters. But yeah there isn’t much out there right now.

          • Zepi

            Possible draft picks?

          • Nfl All Day

            Forgive me. Your loose use of the word “sign” implies a free agenct transaction. Certainly we can and will draft possibly multiple WRs. With luck, they will contribute their 1st yr. But the trademark of 1st WRs is inconsistency. For one to step in and become the 1st option in year one is rare, and not the sort of thing you want to depend on.

          • Nfl All Day

            F#cking beautiful the way you slid the kids name in there! “Its da ODB kid!” Can’t wait! And Maclin will be single covered all year until proves he’s a threat.

          • oreofestar

            ODB must be mentioned as much as possible

          • Nfl All Day

            I agree. ODB ALL DAY! In fact. ….I’m gonna change my screenname.

          • oreofestar

            DO IT, DO IT , DO IT

          • GEAGLE

            And? Think defenses will pay more attention to coop than Sproles or Ertz, two pieces who should be matchup NIGHTMARES this year under Chip?…coop will continue to enjoy a lack of attention..

          • oreofestar

            Nope but if Maclin is not respected you can count on Coop seeing a better DB single cover him

          • GEAGLE

            Teams with a top corner like Patrick Peterson I could see them sticking him on Ertz before Coop….I just can’t imagine Joe Haden being designated to take Coop out the game…but we’ll see

          • oreofestar

            I agree I am just saying that f Mac is not respected do not expect Riley Cooper DJ Hayden one on one matchups thats all

          • GEAGLE

            Hope to see DRC on Coop..Coop will bully that fairy and pound him all game and just let shady run directly at DRC

          • oreofestar

            Nah I can not wait for ODB on DMC let a tough guy like him just destroy DMC and then DMC will fold his legs

          • Nfl All Day

            Not when you watch most of Coopers TDs….it’s just him and his cb one on one. This is a valid arguement. Cooper’s a decent player as a second or third option, but if I start hearing people eagerly awaiting his ascension to elite status I will lose it.

          • Adam G

            Again, that can be chalked up to play design. That’s what makes chip such a great offensive mind.

          • Nfl All Day

            Nobody here will disagree that Chip is an innovator. The conflict arises when people act like losing Desean will have zero impact on this team. The guy was targeted 132 times of the teams 504 passing attempts (26%) last year. That tells me that both Kelly and Foles, felt he gave them the best odds of success in the passing game. Maclin has to prove to Kelly, Foles, and the defenses that he’s a threat before he’ll be able to impact the game the way #10 did last year.

          • Adam G

            Sure, but there is also the possibility that the addition of Sproles and Maclin will make up for the lost production of Desean. Obviously they would’ve been better off with all three but there is an argument to be had with respect to this year vs last.

          • Zepi

            Doh. I just repeated your comment. I need to get in the habit of reading first and see what was left out before commenting.

          • Zepi

            The one factor you are forgetting is Sproles. Defenses have to respect him. We lost and gained a play maker in my book.

          • Nfl All Day

            Sproles is a nice addition, but the guy’s a 31yr old scatback. When guys like him decline it’s not always a gentle gradual drop off. He loses a few steps and he goes from being D.Sproles-Game Changer…To just plain Darren, a 160lb.guy with no business in the NFL. And I gotta admit, I’m pretty bitter that they couldn’t get anything for #10 coming off a career year, yet had to give up a valuable 5th to get an aging Sproles.

          • Zepi

            I mostly agree. The difference between Sproles and other 31 year old scat backs is that Sproles hasn’t taken to much of a beating in his career because of the RB committee the Saints have. Could have more left in the tank than other 31 year old scat backs. We shall see.

          • Nfl All Day

            One of the many things which we will cross our fingers and hope for the best. He at least is a luxary addition to an already talented backfield. The only position on the team you can feel great about from starter to 3rd string IMO.

          • Zepi

            I completely agree. It’s going to be torture to wait six months to see how this all plays out on the field.

          • Kev_H

            It’s a whole new season with new opponents and new players nd a new QB. The Eagles will throw more passes for more yards compared to last year. A receiver will catch at least 10 TDs – maybe more than one since Foles was throwing them at an NFL record pace. A receiver will gain more than 1400 yards. Write it down. They have plenty of good players and they I’ll be able to create favorable match ups, spread the ball around, and move the ball.

          • Nfl All Day

            I too expect the system/Foles to take the next step. However, any chancea of a defensive improvement lies primarily on the play of Malcolm Jenkins, and a 2nd yr of familiarity in the system. At this point, I’d settle for a consistent effort and hopefully lowering the 24pts/gm they averaged last year. Having a potentially prolific offense is great! But ask Denver what it’s really worth when you can’t stop anybody all year and it finally comes back to bite you in the biggest game of the year when your offense finally needs you keep THEM in the game.

            Aside from this apparent strategy of improving by letting the team grow into the schemes over using free agency to address the obvious holes, you have to consider how much more challenging the 2014 schedule will be.

            We play the NFC West, SEA&SF being definite watermark games. But Arizona barely missed the playoffs and has a defense capable of being just as dominant as the 9ers or Seahawks. The Rams arent far off either, finishing 12th in pts allowed, they are the only team to go into Seattle and leave with a victory in the last 2 years. There’s rarely an easy game in the NFC East. The Giants, who won 7 of their final 10 games have had an offseason similar to the one Philly had last year, with a lot of little moves that don’t jump off the page, but without a doubt make them better than they were in 2013. They will be competitive. Carolina, despite having no weapons on offense, still boast a very good front 7, and Cam will likely have a stable of rookies helping him along the way. A revnge match for the Packers back in Lambeau, this time with Rodgers, Cobb, and Clay Matthews will be a completely different ball game. Throw in road games in Indy, and Houston vs. a Texans squad that still has the corp of the 2012 team that made a deep playoff run. They have to many good players to repeat last season’s debacle. Optimism is great. It’s what the offseason was meant to create. But to assume this team has nowhere to go but up is foolish. The league is full of pitfalls waiting to trip up those who rest on their past accomplishments and media clippings.

            Overall I expect the Birds to finish no worse than 10-6, but once they get to the dance, teams will be ready for them. And the same way Chip is plotting on exploiting other teams weaknesses, opponents will be ready pound the rock straight at Benny Logan, and expose which ever young punk we lineup at strong safety. Last years accomplishments mean nothing. This team better come in with a chip on their shoulder and a he’ll of a lot of attitude cuz they ain’t sneaking up on anyone this year.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Pump fakes & looking off to DJax side is also what drew the deep safety to that side. Foles did this a ton last yr.

          • Maggie

            Change of topic. How is search going?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Job search? With my wife due in a couple weeks with our daughter (1st girl to go along with our two boys…last child), I’ve kind of backed off the search. I look and apply once a week, but I’m thinking of holding off to spend some time with our daughter.

            It’s tough to find something that works somewhat with my wife’s work schedule too. She works nights, 7pm-7am, 3 days/wk. But her days are never the same week to week. But I’ve gotta find something, even if it’s part time because I am not a homebody. I like to work, but am extremely tired of travel and long commuting times. I’d love to find something close to home, possibly for our town or county.

          • Mr. Magee

            Best of luck to you man

          • PhillySean

            a lot of those were against Raiders players that seemed to be lost in space.

          • Nfl All Day

            Good point

          • PhillySean

            I also think their coverage was a shambles and I’m reluctant to read much into their apparent choices. It looked like players were very confused about assignments.

          • Zepi

            With Jackson gone the safety will still have to help either with Maclin or Cooper which will still create one on one coverage on the other side. Sounds like the same situation when we had Jackson.

          • Glenn Articolo

            How can you say Desean was never double covered. When people say a WR is double covered, it is when a corner plays short, and the safety provides deep help. That was pretty much the case every time Desean lined up with the exception of the red zone. That was not the case with Cooper. If Cooper ran a vertical route, he had one man to beat, the corner. If you say he was never double covered, you are saying that you have no idea what you are talking about.

          • Adam G

            That is not double covered. That is what safeties do. Honestly, you really don’t know much if you think this.

          • Glenn Articolo

            Adam. With all due respect. Are you saying that double covered means two corners covering a WR? That almost never happens. When the Eagles were in a base package, the free safety almost always gave the corner who was covering Desean help, and almost never gave the corner who was covering Cooper help. And that was largely independent of play design. On all of Cooper’s vertical routes, he had only his corner to beat. That was never the case with DeSean.

          • GEAGLE

            Doubt he was Bracket covered all game

          • Glenn Articolo

            Sometimes he was Bracket covered. Most times he was not. He always had the respect of the deep safety. That is the point. The deep safety does not have to respect Maclin or Cooper the way he had to respect DeSean. Most everyone would agree that Jackson stretched the field in a way that no other WR on the roster can.

          • Adam G

            “Always” had the respect of the deep safety. Nothing like some unproven hyperbole. Again, that’s the design of the play. You really need to watch some All 22.

          • Glenn Articolo

            And when you said DeSean was “never” doubled, that wasn’t hyperbole. And yes, you are not the only one who watches all 22. Are you saying that Desean doesn’t stretch the field? His speed and explosiveness demanded the respect of the safeties, on a whole different level than Cooper and Maclin. Not sure which all 22 you have been watching.

          • Adam G

            Yes, because doubled isn’t even a real thing. Again, he gets attention from the deep safety, bc in fact, deep safeties roll to the player who is running a deep route.

          • Glenn Articolo

            I agree. If that is your definition of being doubled than you are correct. But, I did notice when Cooper ran a vertical on one side, and DeSean ran a vertical on the other side, the free safety was on DeSean. I hope you are right. That DeSean is an interchangeable part, and that Maclin will fit right in, and the offense will not skip a beat. I hope you are right, and I am wrong.

          • Kev_H

            So if (insert generic receiver) runs a vertical on one side and (second generic receiver) runs a vertical on the other side, how does not having DeSean Jackson allow the free safety to cover both guys?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            True. The “deep” safety’s job is to roll over top to where the ball is thrown. They may cheat to one side more than the other, especially opposite the short side but DJax has never had 2 guys running with him.

    • Maggie

      Why are so many folks writing as though the roster is complete and there is no chance whatsoever to sign another wideout? It is only March!

      • oreofestar

        I don’t think we sign one but yeah I want Beckham Jr. and there are other guys in the draft, we are not done but Maclin will likely have to be the number 1 guy

        • IrishEagle25

          Love Beckham, think he would be great with chip, and can handle kick offs with sproles taking the punts. I think we go the way of the saints with a bunch of contributing Wr’s without a real star, that all have different talents.

    • Tom w

      Will be fine. Sky isn’t falling. Offense will hum. Don’t break your ankles jumping off the bandwagon and stabbing the coach and front office in the back on the way down. Djax numbers were dropping every year from 2009-2012 till chip got here and kid still was replaced in the redzone. It’s about the system. It’s about chip. It’s about the run game. Djax is replaceable. Life goes on.

    • Kev_H

      So let’s follow your thought process. What will the high free safety be doing this year? Former QBs say a good QB influences that. Cooper lined up with Jackson his whole career. Why was he only productive last year? What happened the previous years?

  • jon h

    Sheil, while other reporters are chasing conspiracies, we can always count on you guys to provide a balance, well thought out POV – thanks again for keeping that bar raised.

    • G_WallyHunter

      PRECISELY

  • thefadd

    the comparison of Cooper and Jackson is not terrible. it is, in fact unavoidable. Chip Kelly will always be the guy who kept the journeyman who said “n****r” and cut the Pro Bowler who flashed gang signs.

    • oreofestar

      journeyman?

      • Joe L

        I’m guessing he doesn’t use the term often. Or if he does, he just does it incorrectly a lot.

    • Maggie

      Always?

      • RIP illa

        Yup

        • Maggie

          Only until the next “scandal” comes along. And those who grasp onto every insult or negative remark IN THE PAST carry an awful weight. Anything you can’t change, like THE PAST, let it go. The person or group that caused you hurt couldn’t care less if you hate them. Enough lecture for today. ;~}

          • RIP illa

            Yeah, it would be great if things as such stayed in the past and could be easily let go, or just let go. Yet somehow, it’s always brought back up. Either directly or as a slap in the face and reminder of where “your” place is and how “you” should feel about it!!!

          • Zepi

            I think fans and media will bring up things from the past to try to figure out whats going on because of the lack of current information on an issue. Once more info gets out, the past will lose or reinforce it’s significance.

          • RIP illa

            We weren’t talking about football.

          • Maggie

            I am very well acquainted with years of insult and discrimination based on outward appearance. Most of the time, however, I refuse to let other people’s sheer stupidity weigh me down.

        • Tom w

          Nah. The dopes will move on as soon as we win like always. As soon as cooks or odb puts up 40 for 700 next year and we average 30 a game. As soon as we have a parade in next 3 yrs.

    • Tom w

      Nah. Just by people trying to stir up racial tensions. Just like Vick, josh Hamilton, and cooper did stupid shit, apologized a million times, sought counseling, and repented and appeared contrite, djax has refused to grow up or move on from his crips lifestyle after being given two yrs to do so by Howie and pulled the same me first bullshit this past season refusing to talk to the wr coach, blowing off team meetings, blowing of exit interview w chip, asking for a new contract minutes after saints loss. It was time to move on much like pats did w randy moss and titans are doing w chris Johnson.

      Can’t preach team and character and buying in to the program if your second highest paid player is acting like an asshole. Production aside. The team lives on

    • Zepi

      The only way you can relate the two is that they are both character issues. The big difference is what you do about the character issue. Cooper realized he was wrong and took steps to correct it. Jackson seems to not want to correct his. That is the why Jackson got cut and not Cooper.

    • Kev_H

      I don’t think Kelly cares about either of those things. He cares about football and big guys beat up little e guys and dumb guys make more mistakes than smart guys. Plus if Cooper was set to earn $10 million last year, he would have been cut before the concert even happened.

  • Brian

    All of the bullshit aside, I’ll never forget the joy of watching the “Miracle in the Meadowlands II”. Thanks, DeSean, for a wonderful memory.

    • Woody7236

      I’ll never forget spiking the ball before he got in the end zone! LMFAO!! Thanks for nothing DeSean.

    • IrishEagle25

      only came home from work at half time of that game.. and it was awesome

    • George

      I was there that day, and it was glorious. There was this really cocky SOB sitting in front of me, and watching him leave the stadium was beautiful

      • GEAGLE

        Wow…that must be some memory seeing that game live. Good for you

  • IAteLunchToday

    I always feel that looking at past helps us understand some stuff going on now. People are asking why keep Cooper? Well, I think it has a little to do with LaGarrette Blount. He punched that idiot on national TV in Chip Kelly’s first game (and loss) and I think he didn’t necessarily have the confidence in himself that he has now so he reacted to what people were saying and suspended him for the season.

    As the season went on, he realized what people say and think really don’t affect him or his program. And I think he truly cares about the players. Blount had his first kid that season and I think Chip saw that he could play in the NFL and so he un-suspended him. I think that was for Blount. The Ducks did not need him at all. We had LaMichael James who was awesome.

    And I think that with Cooper, the initial reaction by all the pundits and fans is to just cut him and possibly ruin his career (his own fault). But Chip learned from his past that stuff blows over (which it mostly did) and this is their livelihood. So now I think he gives people the benefit of the doubt and doesn’t care what you or I think or say. So if I had to guess, there is more to this DeSean Jackson story than we know.

  • IAteLunchToday

    And I guess the NFL is different, but I’m pretty sure Chip has an eye for talent. I have to say that each time we would lose a player at Oregon, the next guy was better. I remember when Masoli got kicked off the team and I was like NO!, then Darren Thomas came and they went undefeated and I was like OK. Then he decides to leave early and I’m like NO!!! People said Mariota was better, and I was like yeah, but we went undefeated. And then Mariota was better. Same thing, when Blount got suspended, he was our starter and was good. James came and was better. It’s all about the next guy up. I don’t see how getting rid of Jackson makes the team better, but Chip has shown in the past that he knows what he’s doing when replacing players so for now, I think you should all wait and see. I’m definitely interested to see what they decide to do and how they play.

    • Woody7236

      Remember when getting rid of Abreau made the Phils better? He was their best offensive bat.

      • IAteLunchToday

        Sorry, I’m from Oregon and I follow teams on the west coast–the Ducks, Mariners, Seahawks… But I’m all for The Eagles and hope the rest of your teams do well, too.

        But, losing Griffey, Rodriguez, and Johnson did not help the Mariners, and I would never really compare different teams in different sports. But I felt the comparison I made was justifiable because it’s the same sport and same head coach, but I did preface it with saying the NFL is a different league…

        I haven’t really followed baseball too closely since I was a kid, so I don’t know if your comment is agreeing with me or being sarcastic and I’m too lazy to look it up.

        • GEAGLE

          What’s your opinion of Hroniss Grasu? I’m hoping we don’t draft any Guards this year, because I really really want that kid in the 2015 Draft…

          Your opinion of Taylor hart would also be appreciated..

          I really want us to draft Biseko Lokombo in the 7th

        • Woody7236

          “I don’t see how getting rid of Jackson makes the team better,” Yes, I’m basically agreeing. Sometimes you add by subtraction. Phils got better by trading Abreau because he was a bad fit in he clubhouse even though he was a great player. Eagles will be better with DeSean gone because the clubhouse will be better even if the talent is not quite as good.

  • Scott Gregory

    i think putting Maclin in DJax spot n Sproles in Avant’s spot will be productive. Maclin is no slouch as long as he’s healthy. But thats the key..As long as he’s healthy and if we get a reall good WR in the draft like Cooks, itll be like nothin ever happened and we wont even miss Djax..Imagine, Maclin, Cooper, Cooks as WR’s and Sproles as the slot/RB with Shady in the back and use them in multiple combos in this offense. I think Kelly will get this thing goin in the right way

  • matthew brandley

    Be carefull about your past. It may get you when you realy dont want it. Sad that his career in Phila was cut short but the coach has the final say

    • PhillySean

      maybe it was more about avoiding a distracting restructuring controversy this year. the past stuff might really only be relevant wrt to questions about failure to secure a trade of some kind.

  • GEAGLE

    Wish we would sign WR Jacoby Ford,,26yrs old, deep ball threat, going to sign minimum salary so we don’t have to guarentee him a roster spot…return man in case we can’t land OL Dirty Beckham….
    ..
    Curious as to why eagles fans talk about Brandin cooks so much…someone explain this fascination with connecting him to the eagles?

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Probably because he’s a “dynamic” receiver. Comes from PAC12, Oregon State, etc.

      • GEAGLE

        Chip gave his definition of Elite WR…size/speed combo…why wouldn’t we draft one of the serious big boy talents and try and develop them into an elite WR?
        ..
        Why do we need to settle for someone with the ceiling of Desean Jackson?

        Love me some ODB, but if we can’t get our hands on him, grab one of the big boys….rather draft a bunch of big fast athletes, and spend 500k bring Tiny Jacoby Ford into camp, and add his 4.25 deep ball threat for cheap

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I don’t want him. Just trying to explain other people’s means of linking him. I actually agree that Chip more or less gave the hint as to what he considers an elite WR. He wants big, strong AND fast.

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t get me wrong, I think cooks is a nice prospect,…he had a really impressive game going at Ifo OLOMU

            But we Know for a FACT, that there are 4-8 WRs with serious size and speed that won’t be drafted before 22…swing for the fences, grab one, and develop him into a stud…Bicknell OWES us a stud WR lol

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I want big. I want a TO type or bigger. I like ODB, but while he plays big, he’s still 5’11″. I want 6’2″ or larger.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m with you man…and there are so many SERIOUS BIG BOY prospects that it makes no damn sense for eagles fans to be clamoring for a kid with a Desean Jackson ceiling..
            .,,
            A taller Anquan BOldin type like..PSU A-Rob is about as good as coming down with Jump balls as you can find
            ..
            Don’t want a Raw prospect? Jordan Mathws is big fast and a very polished route runner…

            Moncreif has that Josh Gordon Ceiling at 6’2 220lb 4.4 speed

            KB might not be polished, but neither was Alshon Jeffries as a rookie, Chicago took a raw prospect that didn’t pay off much as a rookie, then the next year a monster showed up

            There are so many intruiging WRs with the size and speed to be really special, that i don’t see why we would settle for Cooks…

          • Joe L

            Don’t forget about a potential mid-late rounder like Brandon Coleman at 6’6.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..and plenty more…Martevis Bryant is a serious freak athlete. If someone can ever coach him up, watch out…
            .

    • OldDocRoss

      Young, fast as heck, stupid acceleration, decent hands, can line up anywhere, immediate upgrade in the return game.

      Bit rich at 22 but if we were to trade down or he were to fall he could be good value.

  • Explorer51

    You have to assume that Kelly knew Jackson wasn’t going to play for him this season; trading or releasing is a Howie issue. And if that is correct, his brain has been tailoring a non-Jackson offense since one minute after the Saints’ loss; not only in replacing catches, yards, and TDs but in drawing coverage and opening up the field for the running game. No one should believe that this was a hasty decision…we don’t know Kelly that well but there’s no way he would drop a productive (stat wise) guy without a replacement plan. Plus, how often do we see the Eagles eat $6M? Um, never.

    Totally different circumstances but Kelly lost his number 1A receiver last season when Maclin went down and then his starting QB a few games in and he spitballed those losses into the #2 offense with a former #4 WR embroiled in controversy, a declining #3 in Avant, and a committee of TEs. If we get a real talent in the draft, I’d feel pretty confident about this year.

    • Maggie

      Totally agree on long term planning. And how coaching and conditioning made most players better than they had previously shown.

    • Mr. Magee

      Well done explorer… Put things in perspective nicely.

      Look, no one knows how this is gonna play out… The release is surprising, to put it mildly. But there’s a lot we don’t know, and only time can judge if this was a good move or not. But no sense in pretending the whole thing is black and white – cause it’s not. It’s certainly a bold move… But I’m willing to see how things transpire before declaring it the essence of genius or arrogance.

  • GEAGLE

    Brad Smith agreed to restructure his contract…it’s done, saves like 400k

    • cliff henny

      now, trade him for a 6th!

      • GEAGLE

        MORE WEAPONS!!!

  • meanness

    This is a terrible move that will come back to haunt the Eagles. They didn’t lose to the Saints because DeSean was a distraction, and they are clearly a worse team without him. A good coach would be able to get the most out of DeSean. A good FO would be able to get value for a Pro Bowl receiver with elite speed. But instead, the Eagles have nothing but a hole in their roster. Good work, Chip and Howie.

  • Gambe06

    There is no making sense of a this move. Pompous and stupid. Evidenced by the many teams lining up for his services. It’s a business solely based on winning titles (something the ‘gold standard’ has never achieved), and the team I show me allegiance just made their team worse do to the coach not liking the player. If the continue to progress and win a playoff game next year I will not care about this. Anything less and I’ll remain very upset about this.

    • Joe L

      I’m less upset about it when you see how little his teammates had his back before he got released. Guys in the locker room clearly didn’t care for him, so it looks like they decided to dodge a 10-11 million dollar bullet that wasn’t helping team chemistry.

    • Zepi

      Have you already forgot we that signed Sproles. We cut and gained talent. Not much of a drop off.

      • Joe L

        Except Sproles isn’t going to play the role DeSean did.

        • Zepi

          Doesn’t matter. Defenses will have to scheme against him. If they don’t, Sproles will go off…

          • Joe L

            It all depends how he’s used. People said James Casey was going to be a huge part of our offense….

          • GEAGLE

            Will be used like Welker is my expectation…although I’m sure Kelly will dust his lamicheal James playbook off. Chip was masterful with “baby Sproles” WTF is he going to do with the real Sproles?…I also expect to see more of Casey this year

          • Zepi

            Lol. “Baby Sproles”

          • Zepi

            That’s comparing apples to oranges. I don’t remember defenses having to scheme against Casey?

          • Joe L

            Until I see how he’s implemented into the offense I’ll hold off on the “oh no big deal we lost our most explosive piece, we have a 5’6 running back to replace him”.

          • Zepi

            Kelly loves and knows how to use his scat backs. I have full confidence.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol you are worried about Chip Kelly knowing what to do with Sproles?

          • Joe L

            No, but he’s not taking the place of a guy like Jackson. Two different players.

          • Zepi

            Sure. Two different players is correct but they both demand the attention of defenses. Not much drop off.

          • GEAGLE

            He isnt here to replace Desean, but he will damn sure have defenses scrambling to match up with him. Especially when Chip starts sending everyone in motion, ghost motion…

            While he is a completely different player, he is a match up nightmare that drives defenses crazy, so while he doesn’t replace Deseans role, he will command attention…If Ertz takes that next step, he will also be someone very difficult for defenses to match up against…so while Sproles isn’t taking Deseans spot, the difficulty defenses will have matching up with Ertz and Sproles, should command the attention that keeps giving guys like Riley Cooper 1 on 1 opportunities

          • Joe L

            That’s the biggest benefit I see, is for Cooper. The “no drop off” thing really depends on who you’re talking about. I think more often than not Sproles will line up in the backfield, and all that’s going to do is put more defenders in the box for Shady.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m expecting him to lineup as a WR mostly slot more,than a RB, but we shall see

  • GEAGLE

    Desean is said to be visiting the DEADskins next week
    ..
    Riddick saying he is hearing that Desean will get to pick his new team much sooner rather than later

    • RIP illa

      Barring spectacular failures in this upcoming draft…the giants are contenders (we’ve sen we hen Eli has a down year and how he bounces back before), the skins are the wild card (don’t know which RG3 we’ll see), and Dallas should end up last. They suck and got even worse this offseason, plus Romo and his back. But they always play us really tough.

      DJac and Garcon are a scary combo. Thanks Jeff, Howie, and Chip!

      • GEAGLE

        I don’t fear any of those teams, like not the least bit…I completely disagree about the Giants..I’m expecting them to implode. Basically I think they making the same mistake we did keeping Reid two years too long…they don’t have their typical impressive DL…their LBs are still average….and they better not go on a losing a streak, because you know DRC will quit if they do…
        ..
        OL problems, not as great as a WR corp as they are accustomed to. Rashard Jenmings is an upgrade..keeping Beason was a quality move…but JPP hasn’t done anything in years, an Damontre Moore will be owned by Lane and JP..

        Basically I don’t think the giants will be good again til they blow it up and start over….but yes, they will probably be the second best team in the division

        • anon

          They can easily get WRs/OL/4-3 Pass rushers in this draft — that’s basically all there is

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Djax to the Redskins and all of a sudden they become less of a wildcard and more of a worry.

        RG-3 to jax – with garcon and morris in the backfield? Guess who won’t be putting 8 in the box. lol. smh.

        • RIP illa

          The only reason I put them as wildcard instead of worry is cuz of the history if bad organizational structure and Jay Gruden being an unknown at this point. But yeah, if he goes there then that a sick offensive squad on paper. And since that’s all we can judge in the offseason, I think many one easily dismissing them (if they get DJax) and the Giants (with their under the radar quality offseason), is just being a homer and foolish.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            As it stands right now in March I see us as a 9-10 win team with a 60/40 chance at winning the division.

            60/40 cause I’m not foolish enough to beleive we have it on lock.

            1. A healthy RG-3 is a good Qb

            2. Eli is just as likely to throw 25+ interceptions as he is to go to the Super bowl

            Jax to Skins and well I might drop it to 55/45 – joking – but not really. Like you I won’t be making any final decisions ’till I see folk play.

    • Mr. Magee

      They apparently didn’t have any offers (or not very good ones… 7th rd pick maybe? Who knows).

      People need to take in the whole of this situation and just relax…. It is far from black and white at this point. Only time will tell if this was a good move.

      • GEAGLE

        I’m over losing Desean…just wish we played our hands better…we should have traded him during the combine when us trading him wasn’t on anyone’s radar..but whatever…I actually don’t really care if he signs with the Skins..they can sign him and clone him 3 times and I still won’t fear that dumb franchise..
        Plus we can stick Boykin on him, and shut him down!

        • OldDocRoss

          Saying we “should’ve traded him at the combine” is kind of silly. We’ve evidently been trying to trade DeSean for some time. If we received any sort of offer at the combine we’d have traded him.

          We didn’t, so we couldn’t.

          • GEAGLE

            NO, you don’t know that at all…actually talk suggests that the raiders made an offer! which is what started the entire Desean crap storm..Kempski heard the raiders rumor and ran with it…

            You can’t possibly believe that we have been trying to trade him for two years and we couldn’t get a single thing for him..like not even a 7th round pick? If you believe that I still have the fountain of youth in my basement at $5 a glass!…IMO it’s more likely that we Held on to him because we thought we could get more value than what was being offered, then a case of 30 other teams and not one of them willing to trade a 7th round pick for Desean…I simply can’t possibly believe that nor do I understand how anyone else can believe that

          • OldDocRoss

            Rumours of the Eagles refusing to trade DeSean to the Raiders did not inspire the Kempski article saying they *wanted* to trade him. Because simple logic.

            The Raiders made no offer. Had they done so, he would have been gone. The Eagles *have* been trying to trade him, at the very least, since the end of the 2013 season and *have* received nothing. This is fact, not a matter of belief.

            Your inability to admit the simple fact you have been wrong at every stage of this story – instead holding onto your ludicrous “Raiders rumour” in an effort to have people believe you have some form of finger on the pulse – is making you look very foolish. Please stop looking foolish.

          • GEAGLE

            #6

          • OldDocRoss

            Ye can’t spell, but at least your counting isn’t hideous.

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          You won’t be over him if we have to see him 2x a year.

      • Malcolm Jones

        The thing is Desean would not change his price tag for no one and teams would not pay him that money… now desean will have to take whats offered and the Eagles just got screwed

  • Amar

    Former Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson to visit the Redskins, according to report from https://twitter.com/NBCdianna/status/450033414188847104

    Redskins sources: DeSean Jackson is expected to visit with Washington this Monday

  • oreofestar

    Desean is visiting with the Skins if they sign him I swear…

  • mike

    NFL.com has article saying DeSean has contacted the Raiders, they said Raiders have always been Jackson’s favorite team.

    • oreofestar

      nfl.com also said he is visiting the Redskins if he signs there I burn the DJAX jerse

      • OldDocRoss

        I loved DeSean and hated the decision to cut him, but he goes straight to the top of the Most Hated list if he signs anywhere in the East.

        • oreofestar

          Desean is my freaking favorite player and if he signs with the Deadskins I will have so much hatred and then be so upset I mean imagine Shady will the Giants or Foles with the Cowgirls I mean these are just disgusting thoughts

          • OldDocRoss

            Yep. I always knew DeSean was a guy you love when he’s for you and hate when he’s against you, but if he signs in DAL, WAS or NY I’m not even waiting for him to do something douchey to start the hate.

            Eff that guy. Terrible rapper. Unreasonably……short. And, um, other things I’ll think of later.

          • oreofestar

            I swear I mean if he signs with WAS they may legitimately have a better offense than us and I would have to deal with him twice that would be disgusting…please sign with OAKLAND PLEASE!!!!!

          • OldDocRoss

            Nah. Redskins suck. It would take more than DeSean to get their O on our level.

            Happy to call the QB position equal because Foles and RG III have both had one good year and one not so good, but we’re better at RB, TE and O-line for sure. And we’ve got a much better offensive mind as HC.

            Plus, you can usually rely on Dan Snyder to mess things up for them as soon as they show any sign of promise.

          • oreofestar

            They would dominate us wr they would have a top 5 duo in the league with Garcon and Jackson that would be scary as hell and Roberts as a number 3

          • OldDocRoss

            How often does the Super Bowl winner have a top 5 WR duo?

            Anyway, I don’t buy the Garcon hype based on one good season, and you still need time to make throws and a QB to make them.

            The Skins are a million miles away from SB contention, so better to worry about our weaknesses than their strengths.

          • oreofestar

            Not worried about sb contention but have the Eagles really gotten that much better and then I get to have the Skins up my ass yeah that is all, plus just the fact they have Jackson would kill me he has been my favorite player for like 5 years to see him in a Skins jersey would be devastating

          • OldDocRoss

            I totally get the second half of your post, I’m just saying don’t sweat the Skins if they sign him. If the Eagles take care of business in the draft and what’s left of FA we should be well ahead of them.

          • anon

            Hopefully it goes the way it did when mcnabb went there.

          • RIP illa

            Leaving out Morris and an up and coming TE in Reed, who was having a way better year than Ertz when he was healthy. They still need to pull their D together, but so do we. But we have the OL advantage.

          • anon

            Their TE/QB/RB are pretty good, but our scheme is WAY better.

          • anon

            i just have visions of him backpeddling into the end zone.

          • oreofestar

            IF he signs with KC or OAK then I put Jackson in my collection of legacy jerseys with McNabb, Westbrook, and Dawkins if he joins the Skins then that jersey joins Nnamdi in the ashes

          • anon

            like when TO went to dallas — bound to happen.

        • RIP illa

          Lol, that’s crazy. I can’t hate him for that. Management knew, or should have known the risk when they cut him.

  • mike

    NFL .com article says Jackson wants to go to Raiders.

    ….”Prior to his release, Jackson put the word out to the Raidersof his interest in joining the organization, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, via sources involved in the situation.

    The Raiders were Jackson’s favorite team growing up, per Rapoport. Oakland also is close to the wide receiver’s Bay Area college roots at Cal…”

  • oreofestar

    Dangit the Sixers are kicking up when I want them to lose most

  • oreofestar

    Man DJAX please sign with OAK they love you , you love them you can hang out with your “buddies” plus why would you want to wear red and pay with Deangelo and suck

  • Eagles4Life

    DeSean not linked to gang activity.

    http://q.usatoday.com/2014/03/29/lapd-desean-jackson-gang-activity-philadelphia-eagles/

    Yet another blunder by the Eagles. I think I’ll go ahead and change my name now. At some point one has to exit an abusive relationship lol smh.

    • RIP illa

      We knew that by reading the NJ.com article. Still can’t bring that to your job tho. Especially when they’re trying and looking for a reason to get rid of you. You should checkout Donte Stallworth’s tweets about the situation. He has a valid perspective.

      • Eagles4Life

        Fact of the matter is, it’s been there though. I wonder if they’ve “spoken” to him about it before. DeSean has visited Cali prisons and had speaking engagements with inmates. He is very much in touch with his home base, whether people want to agree with all the aspects of it or not. I don’t see it as a big thing, especially when there’s positivity in it too. It’s one thing to be a part of the culture, and it’s another if there were incidents involving him at clubs or studios that have been documented, but there haven’t been. I saw some of Stallworth’s tweets, not sure if I saw all of them. I wonder what Jim Brown thinks of all this.

        Either way, DJacc got a new deal in 2012. Howie, being the contractual genius he is, very well could have stipulated some things about DJacc’s conduct in there that would have made the picture crystal clear for him. That’s happened to other athletes before. The fact that 1) they gave him the contract in the first place knowing all of this stuff as of 2012 and 2) continued to pay him without making a trade a priority before shit hit the fan, as everyone knew there was likely going to have to be some sort of restructure or new deal after year 2 in the deal, is utter stupidity. The undertones in this whole thing pissed me off to the nth degree, but even looking at this slanted in the Eagles favor completely, it’s still angering because they knew or had reason to know the ENTIRE time. They could’ve dealt him a long damn time ago if that was the case. What changed is that this is Chip’s team now, and the underlying handling of all that takes me back to the original reason this pissed me off lol.

        • RIP illa

          I can completely agree with you. And the more I sit back and let it linger or dwell, the more upset I become. But it’s the way the “game” is set and he played into it, and is responsible also. So although I can write what I wrote on the day of his release, doesn’t mean I’m not upset or feel anger. Especially at the way the FO and Chip handled things from the beginning. And I especially hate the fact of all the character culture rhetoric and BS, when the powers that be get to pick and chose when to live it, at their convienence. I hope DJad does well wherever he goes and I’ll still root for him.

          Funny, it was my best friend’s birthday last week and I was talking to him to call and wish him a happy bday. We got to talking about the team (he’s a big fan also), and talking about which Jersey’s we’re gonna get this year. I told him I was gonna get a DJax jersey in honor of all the players this team has F’d over throughout it’s history! That was a day or two before he got released. I’m still getting the jersey.

  • oreofestar

    Damn apparently Sneider’s ass will offer most money despite having 7mil in cap….sh** I do not want him there if they see any part of rookie Grif with JAX and Garcon I swear….I mean it is bad enough the forgot motherf***in played like a freakin violin but if you let him go to the Redskins you dumb as f***

    • oreofestar

      excuse the language I am just disgusted

      • JReamer

        I wholeheartedly agree. Facing him twice a year is a nightmare, an absolute nightmare.

        • GEAGLE

          Screw him…i like boykins ability to match up with him, and they have a glorified safety playing QB,..let him sign with the skins so he can get a nice view of all our success

          • JReamer

            I’d rather just not have to deal with it.

          • cliff henny

            cant argue that, or want to hear ‘skins fans yap, but dont think jax sways power rankings of nfc east

          • GEAGLE

            Think it would be fun..that franchise is too dysfunctional for him to make much of a difference…id rather him be on a dysfunctional team in our division than an NFC team we will see in the playoffs like seahawks,san fran, carolina or the saint…redskins dont have a strong locker room…inmates will be running that asylum in no time

          • JReamer

            I’m just concerned this bites us in the bum.

          • oreofestar

            I would rather he just goes to KC or OAK

          • cliff henny

            yup. plus what new head coach wants to bring in jax? they all want to create own locker room, show who’s in charge, create stability. if anything, signing would show Snyder cant stop his fantasy team meddling.

          • anon

            if he runs back a td on us

          • oreofestar

            I swear if that happens

    • oreofestar

      Wow I sound like an idiot….. lol :P

    • GEAGLE

      Deangelo hall said “if we can pull off the desean signing it would make my year”….tweeted u the link

      • oreofestar

        F Hall…

        • GEAGLE

          He is an old, stale, candy bar

    • cliff henny

      I doubt it, between ‘skins having no money and raiders, he’ll end up in oakland

      • OldDocRoss

        For multiple reasons I think Oakland is worst case scenario for D-Jax as a person and as a player. I think you’re right, but I hope at least one of us is wrong.

        • cliff henny

          ah, wash doesn’t bother me either. Snyder has that team a mess, doubt he’s done coddling rg3, and jax would be on 1 yr contract. maybe highlite play or 2, but taking them from 4 to 10 wins, don’t see it

          • OldDocRoss

            I don’t sweat him signing there either. For football reasons, don’t care about him signing with the Raiders, but I think it could be real bad for DeSean as a person.

            Bad team, close to “old friends”, little vet leadership……..I know we’re all Eagles fans first and foremost but I genuinely want DeSean to have a good life and I think Oakland’s probably the place that makes that least likely.

          • cliff henny

            I hear ya, but if jax cant decide that 10m per/yr d-jax the football player is more important than jackpot, not much we can do but sit back and watch the slow circling of the drain.

          • GEAGLE

            Amazing isnt it? After hearing his “artists” shame on his family for allowing to dump money into that joke of a business venture,,,like how can he possibly make a penny of that crap?

            Its like you taking the money you make from your company and deciding to go to alaska and investing your money in trying to sell ice to eskimos

          • oreofestar

            I love DJAX and Oakland is where I would want him but to behonest the place for him is in KC where he would be with Reid on a decent team away from trouble

          • cliff henny

            KC? been there? it’s not LA but it aint the tropics. plenty of trouble for jaccpot to find

          • oreofestar

            I meant away from Cali but I haven’t been to KC recently

          • cliff henny

            wasn’t he flying these LA connections into philly? not sure jax’s issue is location. making 10m, world is small

          • oreofestar

            Whatever really, just get him out of this conference

          • cliff henny

            forget about kc

            Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 5m

            In his statement following his release, DeSean Jackson thanked Andy Reid, and KC did inquire and did due diligence. But it wasn’t to be

          • oreofestar

            Ok so OAK, SD? I mean I could live with the Jets but then you have to here the dumb analysts talk about how good they would be with Vick, Decker and Jackson (they never learn smh) oooh how bout Buffalo

          • GEAGLE

            Saying KC researched Desean and have dropped out of the desean sweepstakes, and that this should be viewed as a redflag to other teams

          • oreofestar

            come on Mcckenizie work your magic

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah his rap battle were meeks mills artist clowned “retro” took place in Philly, and “retro” is from Cali.

        • Malcolm Jones

          Oakland would be the worst place for him to go… too close to the people that got him in trouble in the first place.

      • JReamer

        I hope so.

      • oreofestar

        Yeah I know about the Skins cap space but after what the Saints did for Byrd I have no idea what these GMs will do

        • cliff henny

          Eagles could find 20-25m in space tomorrow, there’s always ways, doesn’t mean it’s smart.

          • oreofestar

            it does have have to be smart…its Sneider

      • anon

        unless he wants the pleasure of facing our secondary twice a year. it’s like when your ex g/f starts dating your worse enemy.

        • cliff henny

          doesn’t bother me, I know where’s she’s been

  • G_WallyHunter

    I know oreostar said it, I agree, who else is with us?

    If he signs with the skins, who will all burn their desean jerseys? I’m going to..

    • oreofestar

      He is my favorite player and if he joins the Redskins his jersey get burned no doubt…

      • G_WallyHunter

        Exactly, and to top it off it’s one of my favourite ones too, my favourite green one that’s for sure

    • anon

      would be the first time one of ours heads over there. if you got fired by your company the first place i’m looking at is their direct competitor.

    • borntosuffer

      Yea, I think I will compost my DJax jersey. It’s “greener” than
      burning and we all bleed green here. Hope it breaks down faster than a Twinkie.

  • GEAGLE

    KC did “research on desean” and regardless of their big need at WR, they have dropped out of the desean sweepstakes…rappaport is saying that this should be viewed as a redflag…

    • oreofestar

      except if you are Sneider

    • Malcolm Jones

      thats a major issue, but the redskins will take him though.

  • GEAGLE

    Wish a reporter on camera would ask desean point blank, before he signs with a team…”hey desean, out of curiosity, what made you decide to spell Jaccpot with two C’s instead of the traditional CK? Where no where in urban slang do they change CK to CC?
    ..
    Very curious to hear how he would answer that question if someone put him on the spot…and i would love to see that question asked before he finds a job…just curious lol

    • oreofestar

      “Uuuuuh you see…I uuuh” *pulls out gun* “Everyone stand back!”

      • GEAGLE

        You would think after the nj.com article someone would have the brains to ask him that on camera…curious to see what answer he comes up with. If put on the spot

        • oreofestar

          IDK I still think Jaccson is simply a jaccass gangster wanna be

          • GEAGLE

            He absolutely is a wannabe…but come on, he blatantly changed the spelling in his label, so it wouldnt have Crip Killer in it, he is throwing up crip signs on twitter and in NFL games..no serious company would allow any of us to keep our jobs in this day and age if we represent our company in public and are out their giving the impression of gang behavior…like i said, i dont believe he is a criminal at all…he is an idiot, pathetic wannabe which is even worse…i dont even think he is a bad person…to lose a talent because he is simply an idiot really sucks

          • oreofestar

            yeah that is my impression, he is just a jackass and is like every other player like half of them are jackasses

          • TXEaglesFan

            No he’s a jaccass

          • oreofestar

            Yo I already made that joke lol

          • GEAGLE

            He is soooo dumb, ok, so you dont want CK in the lettering. Use your damn brain and write it Jakkpot….Jaccpot is ridiculous. Even the most slang speaking person wouldnt write it like that…”I think myslelf is going to have a great year. With myself, and my new team mates we will do big things, i think this wjll be the best year myself has ever had” lol cant wait to hear his press conference.

          • oreofestar

            hopefully in OAKLAND

          • GEAGLE

            What are Chip kellys initials? Ck? Crip Killa? Obviously him and desean would never work, except in some twisted romeo and juliet scenario

          • oreofestar

            You see if Casserly was still a GM he would snatch him up!

    • travis papa

      That detective asked him that exact question and his response was that the domain name jackpot.com was already taken. Take it for what you want but he’s a jackass who can think on his feet.

      • GEAGLE

        Well played Desean…didnt think he had that in him

  • oreofestar

    I do not think Desean is a criminal just a jackass gangster wanna be with a suspect work ethic, a bit of a tude and a high salary

  • anon

    If djax goes to the Redskins it’s gonna be bad.

    • oreofestar

      for real yo

  • greensoul

    The only regrettable departures from the team in last 20 years are Reggie White and Brian Dawkins. DeSean is a difference maker on the field, but the Eagles are also no dummies. What makes this situation so difficult is that the Eagles won’t or can’t state the reasons why they parted with him. So be it. Can’t wait for season 2 of Chip.

    • GEAGLE

      I dont think its just about not wanting to get sued…I also think they dont want to talk, because they dont want to badmouth him to explain it and hurt desean in his job search

      • greensoul

        Agree. It’s just not good protocol to bad mouth a former employee, even if everything you say is true.

        • GEAGLE

          He definitely doesnt even realize that we are doing him a solid and taking heat for it

          • anon

            Explain?

          • PhillySean

            not so sure about that. depends on who fed reporters what over the duration of this affair.

    • anon

      I’m throwing TO, Djax, in there – I love WRs. Djax wasn’t perfect but provided a TON of explosive plays / memories for this team over the years – I doubt the WR position will be cursed like Safety was after Dawkins left but his versatility as a WR is pretty great.

      I just can’t wait until we replace him so i can forget about him.

      • Andy124

        I obviously don’t agree on including TO, but I’d add Trotter to that list. And Keith Jackson. And Charlie Garner.

        • TimX

          Duece Staley. Once Reid let him go he pretty much gave up on the running game.

  • GEAGLE

    I would only sign him contingent on him shutting down that joke of a “music” label…

    He is a good dude, always giving back to community…but you cant go tp schools, talk about bullying, have kids look up to, and then publically flash gang signs…he is a good dude, and all the good work he does, he pisses all over due to sheer stupidity and watching too many movies…what a dork

    • oreofestar

      Yo! That is my dork I will always love him…unless he signs with the Redskins

      • GEAGLE

        People like him, who think its cool to pretend to slum it, after “making it”, should lose everything…like you want street cred, pretend to be Jayz, or money mayweather..create personas like them, where they still get street cred, but not as common hoodrats, but as BOSSES who are so succesful that they are above the common gangbanger…he could get to keep his street cred, and it not effect his nfl career…instead of pretending to be Jay Z, he wants to pretend to be Tupac…smh how dumb can you be

        • oreofestar

          Lol if he does not get arrested and he tears it up on the field I could care less to be honest :P

          • GEAGLE

            I dont care what the hell he does..i care that we lost a serious talent for nothing but stupidity…he isnt eve a bad person. Just a fool

          • oreofestar

            I know it is just dumb…smh

          • anon

            Think it’s just year two in kelly making his team. Probably another set of tough cuts will happen next year. Not sure what’s being done to develop leadership on this team wonder who will emerge on the offensive side.

          • WilmingtonDan

            Desean was never a leader on this team. I’m hoping there’s more to the story and the Eagles didn’t cut him for just stupidity but they have the same number of leaders on this team now as they did before this move.

    • Andy124

      but you cant go to schools sccools…
      ftfy

  • G_WallyHunter

    is this actually going to happen. KC drops out, pretty much down to skins and raiders?
    Jesus if he goes to Skins, makes this whole situation so much worse DAMNIT!!!

    • Max Lightfoot

      Relax, G. It’s just the Redskins – they’ll still finish last, and the Eagles will win the Division – again.

    • Token

      Im not scared

  • ryan shirk

    THE REDSKINS

  • cliff henny

    rumors are KC dropped out. know I like to bash Reid’s John Gotto’s Teflon like scrutiny with national media, but he’s well respected. if ex coach bows out this quickly, says a lot, often those are the who step up and give 2nd chance.

    • Brazilnut

      Not necessarily, Kansas City doesn’t have the cap space to go after Desean even if they wanted to.

      • cliff henny

        if Reid wanted him, they’d find space.

        • Brazilnut

          Desean Jackson is far too risky to make space for when you’re barely over the cap. Even if Reid were willing to stick his neck out for Desean the cap situation makes it impossible.

  • TimX

    A man wished to purchase an Ass (a Donkey), and decided to give the
    animal a test before buying him. He took the Ass home and put him in
    the field with his other Asses.

    The new Ass strayed from the others to join the one that was the laziest and the biggest eater of them all.

    Seeing this, the man led him back to his owner. When the owner asked how he
    could have tested the Ass in such a short time, the man answered, “I
    didn’t even need to see how he worked. I knew he would be just like the
    one he chose to be his friend.”

    Aesop

  • Jethro

    Chip Kelly said about a million times last spring that the NFL is a “personnel-driven” league. Now they get rid of their 2nd best offensive weapon and all of a sudden it’s all about the system? Yeah right! It IS a personnel-driven league. You need a good system, but it’s not as if getting rid of good players makes the team better. Duh! And don’t tell me Jackson wasn’t a good fit. He fit well enough into the system to have 1300 yards on 80 catches. I hope the WR they pick up in the draft turns out to be great, I really do. But if the Eagles take a step backward this season, releasing Jackson will be a big reason why.

  • Dan

    Hey Sheil,

    So what happened between Friday when you claimed that the NJ.com report was a
    “smoking gun” and that “when it [the Eagles] learned of the NJ.com report, it
    [the team] decided releasing Jackson was the best option” and now?

    Nice backtrack. Maybe you should have actually read the article and applied
    some analytical skills? The article presented nothing that the Eagles didn’t
    already know. The murder occurred in 2010. The Eagles were informed about it by
    the LAPD before they even re-signed Desean. The marijuana arrest was in 2009. Obviously
    there was nothing in this report that led the team to decide to release Desean.

    Maybe you should try some actual reporting. I know it’s hard. It is much easier
    to regurgitate a narrative that you are being fed by the Eagles corporation.

    I honestly thought you were better than this. Sad.

  • botto

    deasean is great but if Ck wants to start from scratch with his guys then thats what he should do.
    its his team, what do we know? nothing…thats what