DeSean Tweets That He’s Talked To Kelly

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ORLANDO, Fla. – Another twist late last night in the ongoing DeSean Jackson saga – this one courtesy of the wide receiver’s Twitter account:

As of the middle of last week, Jackson had not heard from the team. And Tim McManus reported last week that Jackson was unsure of his standing with the Eagles.


Every indication at the owners' meetings suggests the Eagles are shopping Jackson. Howie Roseman met with reporters for more than a half-hour Monday and did not want to take questions about Jackson (even though that didn't stop reporters from asking).

In recent days, reports have suggested the Eagles could cut Jackson. If teams truly believe that is a possibility , they might be less inclined to offer up compensation in a trade. In other words, it's in the Eagles' best interest to at least give the impression that they could hang on to Jackson.

And there's this from Peter King of The MMQB:

Three different club officials on teams other than the Eagles asked me if I knew why the Eagles wanted to trade their ace wideout. It’s one of the big secrets here, but the Eagles have had plenty of chance to knock down the rumors about shopping Jackson and refuse to do so. ...Whether it’s worries about Jackson’s off-field life (he said his home was recently robbed of jewels and more than $100,000) or the distractions he’s caused in the Eagles offense, there’s no doubt Eagles GM Howie Roseman would make a deal for the right price. But that’s the problem: So many teams smell blood in the water now and think Jackson will be released that they’re not going to make Roseman a fair offer for him. They’d rather keep their mid-round picks in a strong draft and hope they get lucky and sign Jackson if he’s released.

This story seems to take a new twist each day. We'll have the latest as it unfolds.

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  • JReamer

    WTF, when will it end…..

    • DoctorRick

      Soon.

      • JReamer

        I hope so, this has become so ire inducing.

    • Vic in L.A.

      After the draft. Any trade at that point would be at a premium for other teams and they know that, so they would act beforehand.

  • MattE

    DeSean just gave some leverage back to the front office.

    • MattE

      Hopefully it was just another “AI to detroit” situation…

      • dnabrice

        DeSean has no leverage in this situation. He can’t block a trade. He just has to do what the Eagles want.

        • Uncle Wonder

          He can’t block one but can most certainly make it very hard…pretty much any team will want to restructure his deal prior to a trade (who wants a 10mm cap hit?). If he refuses, he can essentially force the team to release him…or keep him

        • aub32

          He definitely has leverage. There are very few teams that can absorb his cap number, especially considering all the money that was spent in FA.

          • Adam G

            I think Eagles have more leverage. The trump card is that they can release him later in the offseason so he doesn’t have the opportunity to get decent money. Like a big game of chicken.

          • RIP illa

            How does that stop him from getting decent money? I could see how it could limit the potential in number of teams, or more so “winning” teams…and limit, not completely remove. however there are sure to be plenty of teams that need WR help.

          • Adam G

            Lets say a team needs a WR, they are most likely going to address that in the draft. Right before the season is when teams usually have the least amount of needs considering they went through FA and the draft to address them. It really would limit the amount of money teams would throw at him.

          • RIP illa

            In theory yes. And I don’t want to totally disagree with you. Yet there will still be teams that have failed to address that need properly, for various reasons, and DJax is still a dope young talent. There are plenty of teams that will/should only have one or two legit talents, at the position on their roster to start the season. Whenever, if ever, he gets released, he’s still gonna get near market value or legit market value. I doubt he’ll get over market value tho, but even that only takes two teams to really want him.

          • Adam G

            Right, except if those two teams, lets just say they are the Raiders an Jets actually want him that badly, they will try to trade for him. So if nobody tries to trade for him with a decent offer, means the market isn’t so hot for him. I would guess if he was released late in the offseason he would be better off on a 1 year prove it deal in the most ideal situation, whatever that is.

          • Richard Colton

            I wouldn’t. Not a great plan. Carolina, for example, has really screwed themselves.

          • aub32

            Did you not see what happened with Byrd and the Saints? Teams that want him will ways to get him money. Only the Eagles lose by releasing him.

        • MattE

          leverage as in being able to get something for him. I’m ok with trading him, but outright cutting him i am not on board at all.

  • GumboGumbo

    DeSean is staying after all?

    • Token

      not likely

    • Ark87

      At the very least, him and CK are cool. If we did keep him, he would play for Chip, might not like Howie much though….still it’s good news. If he is willing to stay and play hard in philly, that also helps his trade value. Obviously keeping him is a real option too. Good news either way.

  • Nfl All Day

    PRAISE JEBUS!

  • Dan_the_Ironman

    Jaccpot is staying and these reporters are starting to look stupid with their made up reports.

    • GEAGLE

      This exact time last year, the same dopes, were running around telling the world how there is no way FOles wouldn’t be traded, he could never play QB for Chip Kelly, blah blah blah….365 days later, the same idiots, with the same crap, creating the same drama….how can these dopes possibly be the most qualified people to cover the eagles? Rather give Cliff Henny an editor and print his opinions….like I don’t understand how these people get to be the conduits to us fans….like we are doomed. Wonder why we are such a stupid fanbase. You got Mike Missenelli still telling people that FOles sucks smh

      • cliff henny

        see The Office, one with Creed Thoughts?

        • Tikkit

          Those are disturbing, even for the internet.

      • Chip Kelly

        Who’s worst? Josh Innes or Missenelli? Let’s petition for Tim and Sheil would replace these obnoxious guys.

  • jjbadd

    man….. i’m still praying the eagles have just been trolling the media

  • Waffles

    As any person with a brain has known this whole time DeSean is staying put. You don’t randomly decide to trade/release one of your best players after a career year for no reason at all. This whole fiasco was pure FICTION, brought on by lazy writers who had nothing to write about. It is no surprise Chip and Andy have zero respect for the Philadelphia media. The media should be treated like children because that is what they have been this entire time.

    • DmanPhilly

      It’s All One Big SMOKESCREEN. Chip & Howie Toying with the media & other NFL teams, prior to the draft.

    • Philly0312

      Concur.

    • Weapon Y

      Anonymous sources can never be given total trust. That’s why I don’t believe one way or the other whether DeSean is gone or not this year. Howie and Chip’s behavior is the thing that makes me still wonder if a trade could be possible.

    • Kevin

      So they only confirmed facts by the parties involved are:

      1. DeSean is under contract by the Eagles
      2. DeSean and Chip talked and DeSean seems happy
      3. Chip chases players with a big yellow bat (probably hazing – got to check my source close to team)
      4. DeSean seems to think this a media fabrication
      5. The Eagles are not talking about private conversations with players (their standard operating policy)
      6. The Eagles aren’t addressing rumors, their standard operating policy.
      7. Police report indicates that the robbery at DeSean’s house was a robbery and they confirmed that no funny business is expected.

      The rest of the info is related to unidentified sources and is conflicting in nature.

      Seems to me their is really nothing to report other than the status quo, although a source told me that DeSean was the guy on the grass knoll and perhaps spent time at Area 51

    • Bird of Prey

      Saying the same thing a week ago, and people thought I was nuts. Kelly’s a smart guy, and a great coach. Guys like that know how to get to people. I think this may have indeed been a shot across the bows for Jackson. Reid or another Coach/GM would have let the situation get ridiculous to the point of no return and either cut or publicly flailed the player until they had a relationship beyond repair. Looks like Chip took care of it w/out saying a word.

      The editorial staffs in the media on the other hand may as well work for the Star or the Enquirer. It’s amazing how an Adam Schefter story about the team not talking to Jackson turned into this fiasco. Kelly was on vacation, so he couldn’t comment(convenient) and Howie said nothing as well, now Jackson is contrite and the world moves forward. If that’s how it turns out, all of these “pundits” are looking like a pretty good group of pawns.

      At least this site has been objective about this and are waiting for the real story to play itself out.

  • Kelz

    I’m completely against getting rid of DJax, however, he’s getting paid a boat load of money and defenses find a way to erase him in big games. Our team is clearly not a super bowl calibur team (yet), so his departure increases our cap space. Thusly, it will allow us to sign a few good players to fill in the gaps. Like the sixers, the Eagles are pretty much rebuilding and this is part of the process.
    I hear rumors swirling around potential criminal charges against 10. If so, the Eagles must have Olivia Pope on the squad because they did a hell of a job covering it up. If that’s the case, DJax did it to himself and the Eagles will be smart to part ways.

  • Ark87

    He stole my picture! Jerk!

  • Leegles

    Per a trusted league source, LeSean McCoy threated to make a mess of things (demand a trade, sit out regardless of fines, not wear a sleep monitor, and definitely not drink those nasty nutritional shakes) unless they called DeSean ASAP and made him feel welcome.

  • RIP illa

    “Three different club officials on teams other than the Eagles asked me if I knew why the Eagles wanted to trade their ace wideout.”
    I said it yesterday, but that’s the real damning thing about this whole mess, seemingly created by the FO…Nobody knows why they are trying to trade him!!! And that in itself is enough to screw up his trade value.

    “Whether it’s worries about Jackson’s off-field life (he said his home was recently robbed of jewels and more than $100,000) or the distractions he’s caused in the Eagles offense…”
    And if this is the best BS, and it is completely BS reasoning, that outsiders looking in can come up with, than the FO’s choices are too kiss DJax ass and make up, or cut him! Maybe next time when they try to trade him, they’ll actually have their shit together and not lock like complete jackasses!

    • Tyler A

      How can you be so sure the FO was trying to trade him? That this wasn’t an attempt by his new UNPAID agent to cash in on a client in his prime? It’s clear the eagles aren’t willing to renegotiating his contract. Once that avenue was closed what options are left? He’s the one that stands to gain by the Desean hitting the open market, and he won’t fetch what he could today in two years time when his current contract expires. So create a bunch crap to feed the media, trying to force the eagles hand and get his client released. It’s seems to be the only thing that adds up to me, the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Anybody remember that comment by Desean about his agent “having a good plan for the off season”

      • anon

        Think they saw the Harvin deal and showed DJ could be much more a weapon with out the injury concern — but no one wanted to play ball this draft.

    • ztom6

      I could see them playing with the idea of using him as a trading chip to pick up extra picks in a deep draft where they have less picks than they’d like and where the talent is going to be concentrated in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. But then the narrative got out of control.

      • GEAGLE

        Same…probably viewed him as the most expendable Chip that had any value, they just didn’t account for Jimmy Kempski to lead the rebels into painting Desean as Baby Hernandez…it’s not a secret that WR is a spot we needed to get young at, and if you going to replace a WR, this is the draft to do it…I don’t view this line of thinking as occupational malpractice

  • therealpistolp

    Damn Philly media…..went all PFT on us now y’all look stupid….

    • GEAGLE

      Shefty has been saying it’s BS the entire time..he said Sproles gave us the Flexibility to explore what’s out there, and that if we weren’t getting proper value we would bring him back
      ..
      Then the philly media started a BS crap storm, and why the hell should the eagles let the media bring them down to their knees and have to answer to the Media’s BS? As long as the media isn’t spreading the truth around, why would the eagles care if the media creates a smokescreen for them? I’m sure they have been in communication with his agent every step of nthe way…so why the hell do I care if Chip and Desean hold hands in March? If Howie wants to do anything, he has to work with Deseans agent any way. Can’t even trade him without his agent being OK with it, because no one will trade for that contract as it now stands…

      It’s pretty simple mofos. We plan on stockpiling weapons of mass destruction down at the Novacare complex, so stacked that Desean can be had for the right juicy price…if you don’t give up proper compensation for a 3 time probowler in his prime, then we will be happy to bring him back and terrorize you with him next year…

      Shefty NEVER went down the road our media did…so why would I believe Les Bowan who’s source is Deseans cleaning Lady, over Adam Shefterr?

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Wonder if it was DeSean’s cleaning lady that robbed him…

        • GEAGLE

          Her and Les were in Cohootz

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            F’n Les.

          • GEAGLE

            He mastermind the robbery so he could have something to write about since he is utterly WORTHles to Eagles fanbase… F*n Les!!!

      • DharmaBum

        Yeah, Shefter was almost glaring in his non-involvement with this story…as if we wasn’t gonna touch all these wild, daily reports. Seems like the most egregious offenders were the guys over at Comcast. Everything they posted was “bombshell/smoking gun(n)” type stuff that would get refuted 10 minutes later by some other outlet or source. CSN really drove this story HARD. Guys like Tim and Sheil pretty much offered their thoughtful, logical takes on the existing reports. Les and Domo offered their usual jaded, bitter opinions. The guy I feel almost bad for, is McLane — it seems like every time he takes a stand and writes what he thinks is a definitive piece on the subject, the exact opposite happens, lol. Poor guy. First, we’re “prioritizing Maclin over Coop”…then BOOM. Then there’s “no way on the face of the earth that there’s any chance we even think about dealing DeSean”…then BOOM. Then yesterday, “DeSean is as good as gone”…now DJax tweets…and BOOM again.

        • GEAGLE

          Hahahaha McLane is def taking a beating!! Hope is next story is about how the eagles won’t win the Super Bowl this year :)

          • DharmaBum

            Exactly…he’s like Shleprock.

  • cliff henny

    great! everything is fine, nothing to see here. now, draft ODB w/ #22, and Moncrief in 3rd, and hang 50 on everyone!

    • Richard Colton

      Not crazy to suggest it. As mercurial as DeSean is…we may or may not be able to count on him this year, let alone two years from now. Maclin is a one year guy.

      Pull the trigger Howie – an “all offense” draft in ’14!!!!!

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        I hope others find it “offensive”.

        • Richard Colton

          hahaha. I’m sure Cliff is just engaging in hyperbole too. Say we take 6 players in this draft and three of them wind up being players. That’s a good draft. If all three of them happen to be offensive players, we can’t really complain. Good haul.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Considering we don’t appear to care about how the defense performs, I’d almost be willing to bet that we take 4 players on offense. The over/under has to be 3. Give me the over.

          • Richard Colton

            Could happen. How about a trade down in round one, pick up ODB and Su’a Filo with the first two picks? Than Moncreif falls in round three? Then…like a lightning bolt out of nowhere…Cyrus Koundanjio (who the Eagles had a 1st round grade on and a clean bill of health on that knee) falls to their pick in round four.

            Still offensive? I’m pretty happy with that haul.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            You had me at “Baby I Like it Raw” and Moncreif.

          • cliff henny

            oh man! now we are talking!
            .
            all kidding aside, way i see it, ’14 is all about FOles, so get him weapons. 2nd, to win in NFL you have to be great at something. can talk about defense all you want, it does need to improve, but if Eagles are going to win Super Bowl under Kelly, it’ll be because the offense is great. except it, own it, get great and light some F’rs up!

          • GEAGLE

            Get me two LBs…and the defense will be better then people think, for the second year in a row…continuity matters and a few of our puppies I BELIEVE are ready to grow into this big paws!

          • GEAGLE

            Picking at the end of every round, I’d be very tempted to overdraft for Moncrief and Marcus daaaarling..you either believe in a player you don’t. I don’t give a crap what Kiper says, if I hear us call Moncrief at 22, I will stand up and Cheer…especially since I believe their is a discrepancy between how the mockery view his place and how the NFL does…I’d Honestly rather them draft Moncrief in round one then draft Lee…

            I guess this has to do with me not really buying the crap that he will last til round 3…I’m not even sure he lasts Til 50…I absolutely view him as a top 50 talent…if ODB/Evans/Cook/Ebron are gone, Moncrief is my next best pass catching weapon…yes I would take him ahead of KB, I think there is less bust potential

          • GEAGLE

            And I don’t believe the mock community that says Marcus will be a top 5 pick in round 4…I’d draft him before attaboy and Murphy in round two

          • cliff henny

            draft is a lot more fun again thinking Jax is out on field. too bad only 5 quality picks, love to find another 1 or 2.

          • Richard Colton

            Ahhh. Moncreif and Smith at #22 and #54 doesn’t move the needle for me – only because of who is potentially on the board at those positions if we take them that high. The draft grades (most pointless exercise in media) would kill us the same way they destroyed Seattle two years ago for what wound up being an outstanding draft.

            I guess it boils down to this – You want to tell me we got Smith and Moncreif? I’m 100% down. But my question will ben who did we draft in round one?

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            Moncrief will NEVER go in round 1

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            you stood up and cheered for Bryan Smith in the 3rd too probably. why? because you think you are a scout

          • Andy124

            So you’re saying Barr will play RB for us?

          • Richard Colton

            versatility – that’s what Chippa likes

    • mksp

      What is with everyone’s Moncrief obsession here? Dude’s one of the most egregious body catchers I’ve seen tape of in this year’s class.

      • cliff henny

        teach him to catch, cant teach his physicals. plus, who cares, pick your 3rd rd WR, about 15 to choose from, it’s not literal. neither is ODB-i just like the nickname. be just as happy with Lee Adams Cooks, or Huff or Landry in 4th.

      • GEAGLE

        Uhhh I dunno, some really smart people swear by him…Cossell, multiple scouts have called him the most under rated player in the SEC…6’2, 220lb, 4.4 plays physical as hell….but yeah take him off your board because he catches balls with his body in college lol…I’m sure you thought Eric Fisher was a hall of famer tho

        • Brent E. Sulecki

          Momah great body catcher too

    • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

      I’d co-sign on the greatest show on turf 2.0

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    Where is Ashton Kutcher…I think we all just got punked

    • RIP illa

      I don’t see how. They really did try and trade him. I do still wonder if the reports that they tried to trade him last year, are true?

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        At this point @ripilla:disqus we don’t know what report to believe though. I’ve been trying to make sense of this mess and not too much makes sense. The Eagles silence could be them trying to devalue Jackson on the open market to other teams. If he thinks he can force the Eagles hand and get released and get a new deal from another team the Eagles know no one wants to pay him his worth (especially with most teams using the majority of their cap space) Either way he wont see more this year than what he is getting here. He’ll be forced to be a good citizen to get his money from us, while playing for a potential new contract next year with a new team, since it looks like this could be his last year in Philly.

        • RIP illa

          Agree with the last part. The only thing is, that when you have other GMs asking why this dude is being shopped…then he’s being shopped, regardless of the organization remaining silent. It turned into the worst kept secret. The only reports I find lacking in evidence are the reports of last year and trying to trade him, and maybe…just maybe the releasing him, come hell or high water part. Yet that still could have been a blunder by the FO which they now are trying to amend. But it’s too much supporting “evidence” that the kid was actively being shopped.

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            I do agree with what your saying in the sense that he is being shopped on the low. The Eagles obviously have to get a sense of his value on the market especially with such a deep market of WR in this years draft and knowing they’re wiping their hands clean of djax in 2015. Plus I know the Eagles probably feel like they’re overpaying for Djax skill set and Chip Kelly wants a complete receiver in the mix at that price tag. I think in this day in age it’s hard to do anything without anyone finding out lol.

          • RIP illa

            For real.

  • PhillySean

    I’d rather read some gear head stuff about the offensive and defensive schemes than get updates on DeSeangate. I realize it’s doesn’t have the same click bait potential, but it would be nice to read something Eagles related that isn’t based on pure speculation and gossip.

    • George

      I agree, but this wasnt speculationm, thas was djax talking about it and seeiming happy

      • PhillySean

        You’re right. I was referring to the gist of most reporting the past week or so.
        I guess I’m missing the all-22 stuff that is easier to do on a post game basis.

  • jabostick

    Vick had a few interesting quotes that I saw passed along twitter this morning. I’m sure there’ll be a post on them later. Basically saying that DeSean is a good guy the org wants things done a certain way and he’ll have to learn from this experience.

    • GEAGLE

      Interesting…haven’t seen them

      • jabostick

        I don’t know how to embed tweets but they’re from Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl). Only saw them because Bowen retweeted him.
        *Edit – Vick made them while on Mike and Mike apparently.

        • GEAGLE

          Oh cool thanks…yeah I don’t know how to post tweets either, but if Les has them. Our media will pass them around like a chick on Shadys party bus

      • anon

        Yeah he was on mike and mike and of course they asked. Vick has gotten a lot better at press conferences but basically he said it’s chip’s way or the highway. But also said DJ would have to learn from the experience (aka he’s gotta grow up) which is what i think anyone would say.

    • Kd711

      Vick on DeSean trade rumors on @MikeAndMike: "Chip is a leader … And certain organizations want things done in a certain way." #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) March 25, 2014

      1 more Vick from @MikeAndMike: "DeSean is very productive, but at the end of the day, it's (Chip's) decision." #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) March 25, 2014

      Vick says DeSean "is not a bad person," but situation "is something he may have to learn from." And "I give him my utmost support." #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) March 25, 2014

      • travis papa

        I don’t know about you guys but anytime I talk about 1 of my friends and say he ain’t a bad guy thats my way of saying most people think hes an asshole but he doesn’t commit felonies. Everyone has a friend like this usually your gf or wife hate them and some of your own friends don’t like him. No matter what he just rubs people the wrong way even on his best behavior. Kind of goes along with how most of the team didn’t want to say anything bad about him but not a glowing endorsement

        • GEAGLE

          Lol…soo true

  • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

    I’m still not blaming “the media” for this. I think the Eagles want to keep players from the 2012 class + Maclin and the best way to do that is unload Jackson. That is really unpopular as we all know and see. However, if you look at what Minnesota got for Harvin and the fact that Seattle just win the Superbowl on a bunch of rookie contracts the answer is simple. The Eagles are being cheap and don’t want to admit it.

    Let’s not forget Chip is a college guy and sometimes they struggle with control issues in the pros. This is about $$$ not Jackson. Chip and the FO miscalculated on this one and now that they are at the owners meeting they see have no real market for Jackson because they can’t admit it all about the $$$. If they admit that then people inside and outside of the fanbase would revolt.

    I doubt Jackson will be released. He’ll either be traded (most likely for peanuts) or get a more team friendly restructured deal.

    • ztom6

      The Eagles are not “cheap”. They spend more actual dollars (as opposed to salary cap dollars) on players than almost any other franchise.

      • anon

        yeah find it hard to reconcile.

      • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

        Please explain.

        • anon

          we have highest cap number this year in the league. we sped second most on offense (behind broncos).

          we have too many FA signings b/c of bad drafts and means our whole roster is bloated.

      • Adam G

        In the long run that’s actually impossible. For a certain year that could be true.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          How’s that impossible?

          • Adam G

            Every dollar you spend has to be accounted for in the cap. Not hard logic, unless they are paying guys under the table. Again, this is the long run. Obviously if there is a year where you give big signing bonuses, that year you spend more actual dollars then cap dollars.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I took actual dollars to mean everything from facilities, equipment, nutrition, staff, etc. Which aren’t accounted for in salary cap.

          • Adam G

            He said players, but yes I def agree with you. So I don’t think he meant coaches and facilities.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Yeah, I was thinking actual dollars for everything on a per player basis. Obv I understand what you were saying.

  • brza

    Its funny how the only real info about this situation directly from one of the participants has been getting played down so much today while the “Desean is gone” argument is purely based off of speculation, anonymous “sources” and the fact that the Eagles refuse to address rumors. What reason would Desean have to come out and support Chip and the Eagles if all the rumors were true? None.
    I can think of a few reasons why the Eagles won’t comment on the rumors though.

  • GEAGLE

    I also find it VERY hard to believe that Joel Segal would negotiate a contract for Riley friggin Cooper, and a month later Desean finds himself unemployed having to go play for the Raiders..like Desean should fire the hell out of him if that’s true,.and I doubt Riley is valuable enough to Segal to screw Desean…and I doubt Howie would even put Segal in that position without Segal knowing about it or have been given some reassurances that coopers contract won’t be a conflict of interest with Desans standing with the Eagles….really really doubt Howie would screw him like that, and I really really doubt Segal would screw Desean over Riley friggin Cooper…BS!!!!

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Everyone’s screwin’ everyone.

      • GEAGLE

        Howie worked too hard to shake the dirty stench of Joe banner from this franchises reputation to Screw a power agent like that…i just don’t believe Segal would have negotiated the Coop contract(he may have even negotiated the Maclin contract) without understanding the Desean situation and getting some assurance that it’s not a conflict of interest…screwing Desean Jackson, sending him from the Eagles to Oakland is not a good look for his potential clients

        • RIP illa

          good point

          • GEAGLE

            I mean think about, how far our Image has come since banner/Reid? You can sell the fanbase a Desean trade if you get good value….but if you unload him or cut him, all your good will would be instantly destroyed..and since I don’t believe Desean is Aaron Hernandez, it makes no sense to crush this fanbase at this point, unless our locker room wanted Desean gone! which I don’t believe it has reached that point. think our guys just look at it as “manny being Manny”..Doubt Desean is the first diva WR our players have been exposed to in their football careers

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Sounds like 60s in Cali (cue Afternoon Delight).

    • Token

      How is it screwing Desean?

      Segal hasnt been paid a dime by Desean yet. Of course he wants to try to get him a new deal no matter where it is.

    • travis papa

      You really really put too much stock in player/agent relations and agent/organization relations.Segal would be violating his oath as an agent putting 1 client ahead of another for personal interests or the interests of another client. He would lose all of his clients so fast it would be insane and to believe the eagles or any organization would make any agent of any stature privy to any of their plans whatsoever is absolutely absurd

  • Sig

    This is off topic but isn’t it a little dumb that one of the biggest positives from last year was the elite level in which Foles played. It is such a none topic this offseason, I guess that is a good thing, but a little love would be nice for my boy Napoleon Dynamite.

    • jabostick

      Unfair, yeah, but I think Chip and Foles like it just fine that way. Let everyone else underestimate him

    • RIP illa

      It is. Maybe it’s due to how there’s been a lot of talk of no one really expecting him to put up better numbers or even the same numbers.
      He’s going to have to play a full season, hopefully since we only have Mark and Mark backing him up, so expect more turnovers. The level of competition is raised a bit. Hopefully he attempts more throws into tighter windows, which could lead to more turnovers or more incompletions. And maybe there’s some other things, which I have not mentioned or already brought up. And before the Foles’ lovers jump down my throat. No I’m not expecting him to do horrible or fall on his face. And yes it is in the realm of possibility that he can be greater than last season. I expect him to improve and be effective, but wouldn’t be surprised if his numbers took a little bit of a dip.

      • jabostick

        I think he’ll have better command of the offense and be more efficient. The one to keep an eye on would probably be the TD-Int ratio. He was ridiculous last year. While I’d love for him to keep that pace, it’s probably unrealistic to expect it. But I think the yards and scoring should all still be there

        • RIP illa

          Yeah agreed. I’m really gonna look for the way he handles and now finally gets to be in a real position of leadership. I’m probable the only one who liked how he handled and had command of the pocket his 1st year as opposed to this past season. Completely night and day for me. So I’m looking forward to see him get some of that back, rather than doing the whole “deer in headlights” thing. I wanna see less hesitation.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I think we both said the same thing pretty much. I gotta think that if Foles comes even remotely close to last year that the national conversations of “the next” crop of young QBs has Foles name at the top of the list.

          Is it greedy that I want him in that conversation, but not to be thee conversation for cap salvation sakes?

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        I can’t believe you’re badmouthing Foles like this. Might as well call you “Dutch”.

        • RIP illa

          Dutch iLLa…hmm…I’m liking. LOL.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Has a nice ring haha

      • aub32

        Surprised? I expect is numbers to dip for no other reason than we are facing a much harder schedule.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I would expect TDs to remain up there, more INTs & obviously more passing yds. Comp% should be pretty good, but I don’t expect the ridiculously high passer/QB ratings. So he’ll improve in some areas, come back to earth on others, but still have good numbers.

    • anon

      We blew him all season long and will promptly start again as soon as training camp starts, but for now he deserves a break.

      • RIP illa

        lol

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Anon DOES NOT speak for all of us!! But we know where was on game day…lol. j/k brother.

        • anon

          haha every fan has to do their part. unforunately i was stuck in traffic for the cowboys game.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Well sounds like you need the break then…lol.

    • aub32

      Everything seems to be accredited to Chip. The only player I heard of this offseason receiving any praise without Chip’s name being included was Shady.

  • ohitsdom

    Initial reaction- OH THANK GOD

  • MrFuji97

    There is no doubt in my mind that the Eagles r listening to offers, but they r a smart organization and they’re not just gonna give him away!! They don’t need the cap room until next year and they would not have any dead money if the cut him next year!! If someone offers them a kings ransom, he’s as good as gone gone gone, and rightfully so, but with a deep WR class in this year’s draft, no-one will offer what he’s worth!!!

    • GEAGLE

      Basically…..if what we are being told doesn’t match up with what a well run organization would do, it’s probably not true…

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      There’d be 4mil in dead money.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Not right now anyway. Wait till a team misses out on snatching up a prime WR draft day. Then the phone starts ringing non stop.

  • Will

    DeSean is gone because he chooses to hang out with gangsters and doing gangs signs plain and simple.The Eagles organization wants no part of it. Zero tolerance this is a serious character issue the Eagles will cut him if need be.

    • JofreyRice

      Are we sure what Desean was doing was a “Crip” sign? How do we know that? I thought the crip thing was with the thumb and index finger making a “C”?

      • oreofestar

        Obviously C for Chip

        • JofreyRice

          i mean, it very well could be a crip sign, I’m not saying it’s not–I have no idea. I’m just wondering what makes other people so sure. The thing he’s doing in the instagram picture is a backwards C. That counts? My 3 year old knows which hand to use when he sings “C is for Cookie”.

          • oreofestar

            The hell would I know either I do not stuff about gangs but I doubt he is flashing gang signs online though but I could be wrong

          • JofreyRice

            I’m wondering how anyone knows enough about the gang stuff put it out there that he’s definitively flashing gang signs, and then make a series of judgments about his character from that.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I just googled images of crips gang signs & while I saw a few that were similar, nothing quite the same as what he’s doing. Maybe same sign but pointed upwards, not sideways. Maybe it’s his own thing, maybe not. My father in law is FBI, maybe I’ll ask him…lol. He was a heavy undercover agent in his day.

          • JofreyRice

            The “cc” thing on his record label, and the preferred way he spells his name is pretty damning, even as someone who has defended him.

  • Joe from Easton

    I mentioned somewhere on here about a week or so ago that I saw this as a “test” of sorts for DJax. It looks like that’s what it’s going to be. Vick’s tweets re-affirm that Desean has some growing up to do and Philly is in the business of making that happen or kicking anyone who doesn’t comply the hell out the door. DJax knows he’s not untouchable in anyone’s eyes now and he can either sulk or ball out. I think he’ll ball out because he’s been challenged as a man, not back doored like Banner would’ve done.

    • anon

      tweets werent that bad in my eye — he didn’t go on tv/radio and start saying stuff, etc.

      • Joe from Easton

        I’m not saying they were or anything. I just see the whole situation as one where the Eagles did their due diligence as any organization should, but also saw an opportunity to watch how someone reacts when the water starts to boil. I got shelled for that line of thinking, but a lot of times the best way to teach someone a lesson is to give them the cold shoulder. Maybe it’s right or wrong depending on who you are and how you were raised, but that’s Chip’s way. – “What are you going to do when no one is telling you how amazing you are? Are you going to be a Diva, or are you going to put your head down and work harder?” – Personally, I like to do things that way. Maybe that’s why I’m not an NFL head coach or Exec, but screw coddling people. What is the fabric of your person on the most basic level? Do you accept a challenge and reflect or do you take it personally and whine?

        • anon

          agree with that. how do you think he did?

          • Joe from Easton

            I think it’s yet to be determined. Step one was coming out and showing a positive attitude (from my interpretation) about his conversation with Chip. Step two is OTA’s and so on. Which DJax will show up?

  • jabostick

    Source in DeSean's camp says Chip told him to not worry about anything, keep working, and be ready for camp. Not an ironclad no trade, but..— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) March 25, 2014

    • jabostick

      Maybe this was a contract negotiation tactic that went wrong on DeSean’s side, and poor PR on the Eagles FO side (combined with conclusion jumping on fans/media’s side). Chip gets to come in as the good guy and smooth things over…

    • RIP illa

      The Sicilian kiss of Death??? jk

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Hahaha, I like that.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        “Luca Brasi sleeps with fishes”

    • PsychoPathetic1

      Chip never specified whose camp to be ready for

  • RIP illa

    Has anyone gotten any info on proposition AHMR214, that was brought up to the competition committee?
    The Alex Henery Mercy Rule…Allowing teams to kickoff from the 40. Really wanna know what’s going on with that.

    • cliff henny

      offset with the 42 yd Extra point. eagles will go for 2 99% of time after week 1 when AH misses 3xp’s

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        You mean after the first half. When were scoring 50, gotta assume 21 in the first lol

        • cliff henny

          let’s hope. all i know is, shady from the 2 or Henery from 42, difference is a point, rest up Shady!

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            That, or a quick shovel to Sproles in motion from the slot.

          • anon

            or djax ghost motion. or crossing routes from ertz / cooper, or qb sneak!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            DJax…Ghost…Red Zone?

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I’ve always loved the name “ghost motion”. Chip’s use of it basically says, “You can’t see me.”

  • Tom W

    Can we get back to analyzing the draft and potential draftees. setting the board, finding eagles draft tendencies, etc.

    • GEAGLE

      How do you find tendencies when there is only one draft worth of intel to look at?

      • cliff henny

        about all i’ve learned is db in 1st isnt happening. and Howie likes WRs

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Another problem is that with this lingering out there, you can’t determine whether WR is gonna remain a luxury pick in a deep draft, or an absolute need in a deep draft. Changes the context a bit.

    • Joe L

      1. Darqueze Dennard (because there won’t be any OLB’s worth the pick)
      2. Donte Moncrief/ Deone Bucannon
      3. Marcus Smith/ Chris Smith
      4. Ahmad Dixon/ Brandon Coleman

      Some combo of these would make me happy.

      • oreofestar

        There could be an OLB some people like Ford and I love Ealy so,…..

        • Joe L

          I said worth the pick. Ford isn’t worth the 22nd pick to me, and Ealy is a 4-3 DE IMO.

          • oreofestar

            You know I am not big on Ford honesly but alot of people were argue he is worth the 22nd and Ealy would be great could play him at DE on some packages use him mostly at lb

  • Honest_T

    NFL deals don’t get done until the draft, this isn’t over yet. My take is the Birds are not going to pay him $12+ million in 15, and are still looking for a return.

    I bet Chip told him, keep working, if we get blown away with a deal the team will likely extend you. If we don’t get a haul, you come back and put up another season of Eye popping #s in the best offense in the NFL, and get a huge payday next year.

    • Joe L

      He hasn’t put up a season of “eye popping” numbers yet. He had a very good year.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    All I can say is that if Jackson is not traded or released, then I want to see at least some “journalists” lose their job. If not a reporter or blogger, then an editor or executive editor. This reliance on unnamed sources has gotten out of hand and starting to feel like outright lies.

    • aub32

      unfortunately that won’t happen. It must be nice for “journalists” and weathermen to be able to get information so wrong and still keep their jobs.

      • SoCalEaglesFan

        I would like to believe that there is still some semblance of credibility in the news business. They’re losing it fast, but can redeem themselves with a high profile firing or two.

        • aub32

          The news business today seems more about getting the news out first. Everyone is in such a race to report (tweet) a story and be first that fact checking has taken a backseat to generating clicks and causing a stir. If you’re right, then you get credit for breaking the story. If you’re wrong, the story has been retweeted so much that no one knows where it started.

      • SoCalEaglesFan

        Also will say that there are long established rules for dealing with anonymous sources and the editor is usually aware of who the source is and can corroborate. If these old school rules are being circumvented, then that is a reason for a firing. Editors or reporters. I don’t care which. But somebody has to pay a price for this.

    • anon

      you mean get a promotion? page clicks up like 500%. this isn’t the WSJ.

    • aub32

      I don’t remember anyone getting fired for not double checking the death Manti’s fake girlfriend.

    • botto

      but this isn’t news… its sports. it’s a game.

  • Rayray Young

    Good i didn’t think we should trade him anyway definitely not for a 3rd pick that’s just crazy now if we were getting a percy harvin deal then yes you trade anyone on ur team beside mccoy in foles

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    still being traded on draft day. I don’t care whats being said out there today

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      The New York Daily News’ Manish Mehta reports DeSean Jackson is unwilling to restructure his $10.5 million salary to expedite a trade, and may ultimately be released by the Eagles…..The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Jeff McLane reports the Eagles have “intensified efforts” to trade DeSean Jackson in the last week……Eagles beat reporter Tim McManus reports DeSean Jackson believes he “will not be back” in Philadelphia for 2014….A source close to the team tells Philly.com the Eagles decided to move on from DeSean Jackson “well over a month ago.”….
      too many negatives. only one positive and its from desean. im not buying what that kid is selling. all these reporters cant be wrong.

      • Clamdigger

        A source close to the situation tells me that Jeffrey Lurie has an underground warehouse full of dead hookers.

        When these guys are never right… why should we trust anything they hear from “confidential sources?”

  • birdsfanindc

    I saw this and I just had to laugh. Anybody else starting to enjoy this from a comic standpoint?

    One day is “Eagles wanted DeSean out for over month.” Next day: “Chip called DeSean and said he’s staying put.”

    No one knows anything but somehow that’s all we talk about!

  • Scott J

    The Eagles probably floated a few trade offers to a couple teams and this whole thing got blown out of proportion.

  • ia

    DJax probably found out noone really wants him and his deal with the Eagles and playing for Chip is not that bad.
    I can also imagine what Chip told him: “You will have another great your if you stay, but come to training camp and cut out the crap and abide to the system”. You’re welcome.

  • Weapon Y

    I’m still puzzled why Chip and Howie would act so weird if there was nothing to these rumors. The timing of DJax’s posts is also suspicious. Why wait until now and not several weeks ago when the rumors began? Why wait the day just before Chip has to talk to the media? Would Chip really encourage these rumors just for shits and giggles? What could he possibly gain from them?

    • ia

      Chip doesn’t play games. He makes his position totally clear to his players so there want be any doubts. That how he dealt with the Nick & Vick saga.
      Nick will be the QB for a 1000 years unless he starts playing bad or he gets injured and his replacement plays lights out.
      So his position towards Desean has been totally clear from the beginning. So I believe the confusion started in Deseans head, maybe influenced by other people then Chip.

      • Weapon Y

        Chip and Howie were publicly asked about it and weren’t clear at all. This is definitely a mind game with someone.

  • 609to336 Eagles

    http://instagram.com/p/l-T67huNgQ/ Then he posts this…

  • botto

    hey atleast Djax is stoked to be back… i think that is a good thing.
    also, i feel bad for him telling everyone he is staying and then he gets traded on draft day.
    sources say…

  • TheGhostofNormVanBrocklin

    So if your “sources close to the situation” are constantly wrong then maybe your sources really aren’t close to the situation. My suggestion would be to get new sources.