A Potential Vick-DeSean Reunion?

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After signing a one-year deal with the New York Jets Friday evening, Michael Vick was asked about a potential reunion with DeSean Jackson.

“If there’s an opportunity to get DeSean,” Vick said, via the New York Daily News, “I’m pretty sure the New York Jets fans would be in high favor of that. But who knows? It takes a lot to make a trade happen. …It’s not for us as players to try to decide. Hopefully everything works out for DeSean. If he is up in New York, we’ll be happy – just as happy as he will be. But who knows? We can’t say.”




Jackson, meanwhile, Tweeted out several highlights from his time playing with Vick. As Tim reported, the Eagles' wide receiver now believes his days in Philadelphia are numbered. And reports continue to surface daily suggesting trading Jackson is simply a matter of when, not if.

Attention is now focused on what the Eagles might receive in compensation and which teams could potentially be interested. McManus pointed out yesterday that the names being discussed in Jackson's camp are the Patriots, 49ers and Seahawks. The NFL Network suggested the Jets, Panthers and Raiders.

The potential trade partner would have to have enough cap space to take on Jackson's contract.

There really is no reason for Jackson to consider restructuring. If he thinks the Eagles don't want him, the smarter move would be to force them to cut him, negotiate a deal on the open market and pick his team. Maybe that means signing a one-year deal somewhere and becoming a free agent after 2014. But it allows him to maintain control of his financial future.

The Jets make sense on a number of levels. They have eight draft picks, including five in the first four rounds. And they have the most cap space in the NFL. New York has a quarterback in Vick and an offensive coordinator in Marty Mornhinweg who are familiar with Jackson.

Coaches, GMs and owners gather in Orlando Monday for owners' meetings. The setting will allow the Eagles to further gauge the market for Jackson, and the guess here is a deal could be reached sooner rather than later.

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  • Explorer51

    I’ll take the Jets 3rd and one of their 4ths.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Their Second, 5th, and Stephen Hill haha

      • GEAGLE

        I’d do that at this point….then again I’m worrying about cutting him or only getting a 5th, so any type of suggested trade will do…

    • GEAGLE

      I’d do that, at this point

      • ztom6

        how about straight up for Wilfork, while we’re throwing out ideas.

        • oreofestar

          no way in hell

        • GEAGLE

          Need more pics now that we HAVE to draft WRs…heck I wanted to draft two WRs in the first 5 rounds with Sproles,Desean,coop and Mac all here, and I don’t even like offense….without Desean I might have to go with Cliff Hennys idea of drafting 6 WRs :)

    • Richard Colton

      Since we’re in full-on surrender mode around here, how about a 5th, and a conditional 7th, as well as the right to call ourselves the Cleveland Browns?

  • JofreyRice

    I dunno. If any team thinks they’re getting Desean for much less than 10MM this year, even with a renegotiated contract, they’re dreaming. The guy deserves big bucks. He’s going to get them, somewhere. Letting him hit the open market and having 4 or 5 suitors seems dumb, if you’re a team that actually wants him.

    • RIP illa

      Hey man…just another brilliant move by our genius FO!

      • Tom w

        Yep no blame at all on djax agent or camp or djax himself plz….. When do you ever know Howie or this front office leaking a single thing????? Never. Djax wants a new deal and his agent spread the bullshit rumor about the niners and pats (great teams djax wants to play for w no cap room) calling about him that was refuted by Albert breer and pats reporter the same day. Then the needy teams start calling and djax is blasting Instagram and Twitter fifteen times a day w pics of him and Vick, him and newton, him and Carroll …. Shit and we get all the leaks from his crew saying he thinks he is gone ….. And nothing from the eagles … And why would they leak anything it just decreases his trade value …. This has agent and player wanting a new deal written all over it

        • RIP illa

          LMFAO! Source? Conspiracy theory #1258392

          • JofreyRice

            no sources, just needs a villain, and DJacc fits the bill.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah, why let all the contray reports with sources saying the Eagles don’t want him get in the way??? Why let little words phrases like, I believe or I think get in the way???

          • Tom w

            Never seen one legit source or statement from any eagle official saying they didn’t want djax …. But I did hear djax saying he wanted and deserved a new deal right after we lost to the saints …. C’mon man wake up

          • JofreyRice

            You don’t let something like this fester in the media for a week without any kind of response if you really want the player. As a manager, you don’t treat talent like this, unless you’re making other plans.

          • Tom w

            Yep that why all you guys are cursing chip like he is banner. Yea that makes a ton of sense. Lmao!

          • JofreyRice

            Sorry, but I thought the Eagles were trying to trade away one of their best offensive players, not the other way around. Is Desean shopping the Eagles franchise around to other cities, hoping to get whatever he can for it? They instigated the entire mess, and completely botched the handling of it in every way. And you want to blame Jackson? WTF did he do, besides respond to a question and go back to his offseason in Cali?

            The Front office has been very transparent this offseason. They practically put out a press release saying “we’re not signing any big name free agents, and you should expect a bum like Malcolm Jenkins”. Howie’s been anything but cloak and dagger.

          • Tom w

            And where’s your source dipshit. The kid said he wanted a new deal the minute we lost to the saints. And he still hasn’t got one and free agency is over. Time to start leakin bullshit rumors like the niners and pats are calling who have absolutely no cap space and spark some interest and force the eagles hand. Wake up. But I guess it’s more likely chip defies logic and production and tries to trade his best wr for no reason at fifty cents on the dollar… Yea cause you know everything chip and Howie have done for the last year makes no sense and has been idiotic and illogical …. Not!!! Wake up it’s all about the new money, guaranteed money, security, and the agent getting his cut again for the new deal

          • JofreyRice

            Here’s what McLane wrote, Jackson’s #1 fan–because he used him pretty regularly to generate page hits.

            “DeSean Jackson said that he was “deserving” when asked on Monday if he wanted a new contract.

            Later that day, the Eagles wide receiver wrote on Instagram that he “didn’t ask for a new a contract” and that he “was tired of dumb info being twisted.”

            So what is he supposed to respond to when asked “Do you deserve a new contract”? “No”? Holy shit man, you’re bending over backwards to pin this on Jackson, based on one comment 3 months ago, that he obviously felt was taken out of context. If he was really such a contract malcontent, wouldn’t he have doubled down on his message, rather than attempting to clarify it?

            Do you seriously think every move Chip and Howie have made in the past year were homeruns? They haven’t made any errors? Admittedly, this looks like the biggest.

        • GEAGLE

          Isn’t that what I said 5 days ago that you disagreed with?

          • RIP illa

            HaHa…I wouldn’t put it past him. Dude is always talking outta both sides of his mouth!

          • GEAGLE

            Yesterday he was going with the home robbery theory

        • RIP illa

          So this all started when DJax and his agent spread the rumor about the 9ers and the Pats??? Yet Kempski’s article and all the articles to follow, we’re way before that??? Hmmm…nice try tho!!! All you’re doing is bringing up the most recent shit and ignoring everything before hand. SMH.

  • mksp

    Swap of 1st round picks & a 3rd would be nice. Should guarantee we get one of ODB / Brandin Cooks (or possibly Barr?).

    • Tom w

      And in a fifth and I could live it I guess

      • GEAGLE

        I’d rather have an EXTRA 3rd then moving up 4 spots in two rounds…
        ..
        How aren’t the Rams interested? I know their cap ain’t great, but you can always change your cap. Sucks that all the dumb owners are in our division…but I’d also contact the colts

        • James Hathaway

          Would you really want Tavon Austin AND DJacc? Same player.

          • GEAGLE

            NO…Desean is good, Tavon sucks, in a Knowshon sort of way of course :)

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    I don’t know what’s worse. Our handling of this situation, or the picture of D-Jax for the article (it’s all screwed up on my screen)

    • Warhound

      Oh, good, then it’s not my computer.

  • Chip Kelly

    Several points: I think people are underestimating my level of football genius. I clearly made DJ a better player that he was under AR or anyone else in the future. Give me Cooks or OBJ and let’s score some F$%* #@(# points. While Foles is our QB for the next 1,000 years, DJ won’t last another 1000 hours. So very simply, we’re from Philadelphia and we fight. We want Receivers who block well, bigger, and team-oriented.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Thanks for the reassurance

    • Johnny Domino

      Pass the Kool-Aid

      • Richard Colton

        If this is true, and not just a media feeding frenzy, Chip’s honeymoon is over. His DeSeanless offense had better be as good as last year, and we had better win the NFC East.

        • RIP illa

          Lol. We’re gonna win the east regardless and OldDocRoss said it better than I can, but it’s not a question of will the O be good or good enough or even great. It’s a question of how much better it would/could be with DJax.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Winning the east is no longer the standard for a good season. 1 and out is a failed season next year

        • Tom w

          Nah that offense is gonna hum. You forget djax numbers dropped each and every year from 2009-2012 till chip got hear and ran the best rushing offense that forced teams to go seven eight in the box and move djax around the formation unlike Andy to beat press coverage. As log as chip wins which he will the sheep will follow

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll use the transitive property here tom. DeSean blows the top off the coverage and draws double teams. Are Shady’s and Cooper’s numbers as high without the threat of DeSean? Maybe. Maybe not.

            Here’s what I know for certain: the day Jackson is traded, the Eagles do not have a #1 WR.

          • imnotsorryisaidthat

            There are no number 1 s in Chips offense or haven’t u heard

          • Richard Colton

            Chip would say that for sure. And I know you’re being sarcastic, but plenty of folks would argue that for real. Here’s the truth:
            2013 receptions: DeSean – 82 #2(Shady) – 52
            2013 Yards: DeSean – 1332 #2(Cooper) – 835
            DeSean is the #1 WR on this team. Without question.

          • Johnny Domino

            Transitive property?
            Is that some kind of “flip this house” jargon?

    • Brandon Boykin, LOL

      I’m shocked, Chip. You usually do things so fast. I’m surprised that this isn’t one sentence with no spaces or periods…

      • Richard Colton

        Please tell me the name change stands for “Left Offensive Line”

        • GEAGLE

          This news hasn’t cause you to throw your wine glass against the wall?

          • RIP illa

            I haven’t seen RC’s wine glass post for a min…maybe RC did just what you said.

        • Brandon Boykin, LOL

          I can’t leak too much info but let’s just say there’s a package with Jason Peters and myself out wide…

    • Tom w

      Forget to throw in that djax numbers dropped from 2009-2012 till chip came and ran the ball better than anyone and drew eight man fronts to get djax open and how he was invisible against the saints and man coverage against Keenan Lewis before Lewis got hurt ….. U can have djax , I will take chip and the team anyway of the week. No doubt this offense will him with or without djax. If he wants a new deal and hold the eagles hostage, I say good riddance

      • Sum

        Good points here. It’s also important to remember that we basically gave up on the bubble screen because DeSean couldn’t beat press early in the season. Chip adjusted, but it’s obvious we scaled our offense back in certain areas. DeSean also wasn’t the downfield blocker that Chip likes to employ.

      • Weapon Y

        One bad game does not suddenly make a player expendable. Give me a list of receivers you’d rather have than DeSean Jackson.

        • Kev_H

          The list that Chip Kelly has + the current NFL guys who average more than 60catches-1000yds-5TDs per year.

          • Weapon Y

            I don’t know what Chip Kelly’s list is and I didnt ask you for his. I asked you for yours.

    • PhillyMart

      Once before when Dsean wasn’t happy with his contract he didn’t perform at 100% by his own admission. Two years later he starts saying the same thing immediately. Why wouldn’t Howie say: fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. And get rid of him. What’s to keep him from coasting this year as he once did. Jackson cannot be trusted and I agree with the intention to dump him. If you can’t be happy with $10M then to bad for you. I think this all falls on Jackson and his camp.

    • Kev_H

      Multiple likes for this!

  • Corey

    This whole thing is just getting disgusting and the worst part is nothing may happen until draft weekend and nothing may happen at all. We won’t know because the Eagles will never give a definitive answer. It is just criminal to trade Jackson if you can’t get more than a 3rd round pick, I don’t care how deep the draft is this year, a team would be trading for a known NFL commodity, the draft can only offer best guesses, that kind of assurance for a player of Jackson’s caliber, is worth at least a 2nd round pick. Harvin fetched at 1st and played almost not at all for the Seahawks, DeSean has a better health record than Harvin also.

    • GEAGLE

      At this point, I’d be surprised if he is on the roster still, a week after the owners meeting

  • GEAGLE

    SK…I would hope the eagles and his agent could compromise in that, give his agent permission to seek out a trade for Desean, especially since I don’t believe he gets to keep that contract if traded for. No one is trading for a pissed off Desean. If you trade for him, it means you will give him a brand new deal..so we might as well give his agent permission to start negotiating contracts with other teams…no? A team will be more comfortable giving up a pick for him when they know they can reach an agreement on money with his agent…

    • DharmaBum

      http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/report-eagles-willing-release-desean-jackson

      I think the point on Jackson’s end is he’ll use his refusal to restructure his contract as a way to get released.

      • GEAGLE

        But if you give his agent permission to seek a trade, he gets to control the money and the destination, and we would still get value..a compromise where we both win

        • DharmaBum

          Oh, I know what you mean, but rational thought isn’t a DeSean hallmark. As talented as he is, and as much as I’d like to see him stay, the truth is, here is a guy who, no matter how much he is making, will never be happy with how he thinks he’s being appreciated. He’d find a way to be unhappy about 50M/year. What makes you think he’d do anything to facilitate a trade, when he can force a release buy refusing to play ball?

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah but his agent controls the talks, not Desean…his agent also represents Vick and I’m sure Desean would love to reunite with him, live in New York. Jets have cap space, they just signed decker. Add Vick, to Desean!Decker, and a rookie WR or TE and that team will have drastically improved their offense, and they already have a pretty good defense…that’s the type of move the jets would have to make if they want to have a shot at competing with the Pats..considering Rex has a short leash, and is a players coach who can deal with Desean, I’m sure he would push for the trade..and there is always Marty

            Trade to the jets makes the most sense! just give his agent permission to negotiate with them! he just got the Vick deal done with the jets..

          • DharmaBum

            I guess my point is, why would the Jets, or any team, trade for him at any price, when they know that the Eagles will — if they really want to be rid of him — be forced to release him? All DeSean has to do is refuse to restructure as part of a trade, and that will force the Birds’ hand. Plus, that way, he can go to any team he wants, and force a bidding war.

          • GEAGLE

            If I’m the Jets, and I want him, and I hear that teams like the Niners,panthers,or Seahawks want him, I’d have to consider giving up something for him to secure him…he is a rare opportunity for them to improve right away, would you risk losing him on the open market, especially when we constantly seeing the Niners and Seahawks do things to make them richer? If I’m SF of Seattle I’d risk letting him hit the open market..if I’m the jets I’m not sure I would risk a move that can instantly make us a better team

            Especially if the Patriots start wanting Desean, then I’m definitely giving up a pick if I’m the jets, especially since the eagles played their hand so wrong that it won’t cost me a valuable pick…I’d pay a 5th to make sure we get him and the Patriots don’t….wonder why the Bills or Browns wouldn’t get involved…even a team like the Cardinals who is in a stacked division

          • oreofestar

            Can the Jets just give us their freaking 1st this year and next year with 2 3s and 2 4s and a conditional 2016 1 if Deean gets over 500 yards

          • DharmaBum

            Well, that’s the hope, that in some way it will force the Jets’ (or some team’s) hand, as well. If I had to guess, I’d say that we’ll get something for him, but unfortunately, I think we need to be prepared for it to be something less than a 3rd rounder. Possibly, even a 6th rounder. It’s gonna hurt, but it’s necessary. I agree with Maggie, I think this is a case of the Eagles looking towards the future, not back at the past. Did you really see Jackson being here in 2 years? I sure didn’t. With the deep WR draft and next year’s draft, there was no way we were gonna be paying him 10M/year. He’s not Megatron. Add in all his baggage, and it’s time to rip the bandaid off now, and save the 10-20M we’d be paying him. The Eagles will take heat for it now, but it’s the smart thing to do.

          • GEAGLE

            Oh I totally agree that we need to prepare ourselves for only getting a 5th or 6th in return and I minimize Maggie’s posts so that they don’t appear on my screen, so you would have to spell it out for me if you want me to know what you are agreeing with

          • DharmaBum

            Maggie basically said it’s a pragmatic business move, looking to the future and not the past. In other words, it’s at least as much about the future as it is about all the BS he’s pulled in the past. Along those same lines, I also agree with what you said about this being very much about what the Eagles expect DeSean’s reaction to be once we add even more offensive weapons this year and next. For a guy who feels pathologically under appreciated at ANY salary, how do you think he’s gonna react to that. Wait, I already know how you think he’ll react, lol…

          • GEAGLE

            Lol that’s what I wrote about last night in detail..we all talk about Chip wanting no wasted roster spots, a stacked arsenal of weapons that we can throw at teams in waves…if Desean still was a pain in the ass last year when he was only playing with old Avant, coop, shady, and the two TEs in Lessor roles…how will he react when everyone has to sacrifice stats because we have a stacked arsenal like:
            Desean
            Mac
            Coop
            ODB or Brandin Cooks
            Donte Moncrief
            Shady
            Sproles
            Ertz
            Celek

            If the vision is a stacked arsenal Iike that, you need your weapons to be all in, willing to sacrifice some personal stats for the good of winning a Super Bowl…

            And that, Desean is absolutely crucial to free up guys when he is on the field with Coop,Avant,rookie Ertz, and Celek…

            But when Coop and Shady are on the field with Sproles,Sophmore Ertz and fast top WR prospect, you don’t need Desean to command attention, because all the weapons you put on the field are dangerous, when you no longer have limited guys like Avant and Celek out there..

            That’s the only thing that makes sense to me..

            I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised. When he signed that flashy deal we all assumed that deal would expire after last season and that we would have to re adress Desean situation…just expected another two years out of him…

          • DharmaBum

            Personally, I expected just this coming year out of him, but I get your point. Brandin Cooks would be the perfect antidote to all of this, and someone like Moncrief in the 3rd. Gotta think they grab 2 WR’s in the first 4 rounds.

            I am really anxious to see how all of this plays out before Wednesday, since that is when Chip/Howie will face the mother of all media onslaughts at their sessions. Makes me think they will do something to resolve this before that. I mean, can you imagine what they’re going to face from the press if this is still lingering?

          • GEAGLE

            I can’t see how we can possibly face that press without our organization looking really bad

          • RIP illa

            How would him doing what Geags said be “rational thought”??? He has already lost all he can lose!!! There’s nothing left for him to lose and everything for him to gain and gain on his own terms. Rational thought says don’t play ball!

          • DharmaBum

            Well, that is a good point. But that’s where his agent comes in. There’s no way his agent is gonna let him play ball in terms of being willing to restructure with a new team to facilitate a trade

        • RIP illa

          But if the reports are true and Chip lied to his face and how there has been an concerted effort to paint him as a cancer, per sources within NovaKremlin, and the basic non want or appreciation of his talents…then he could very well most likely tell them to go F themselves.

        • anon

          Trade means they take the contract. He’s just going to pull a revis. If they cut him with no replacement / compensation it’s going to look terrible for a franchise that teaches growing from within

          • GEAGLE

            No it doesn’t neccessarily mean that at all. It’s not uncommon to see a trade accompanied by a brand new deal. If Desean ain’t happy with his current deal, no one would ever trade for him and ask him to play at his old contract…they would have to be insane to do that

        • ztom6

          he also controls money and destination if they cut him.

  • Richard Colton

    Even a 1st round pick for DeSean (which we won’t get) gets us what? A shot at a WR with a tiny chance of matching DeSean’s production down the road? And 2014 cap relief, which we don’t need.

    This whole thing is insanely idiotic. Its the kind of scenario where the owner needs to step in and exercise veto perogative. If any of this is true (strong emphasis on the “if”) Jeff needs to reign in Chip. He’s won 10 professional games; he’s more Curly Howard than Curly Lambeau at this point in his career.

    • GEAGLE

      I know we put this all on Chip, but I doubt it would happen if we weren’t all on board with it…

    • oreofestar

      I doubt it would ever happen but I would love Jeff to step in and say No and slap Chip and tell him to calm down, been in the league for a year and everyone wants to praise him like he can do no wrong

    • Guest

      You mean Jeff needs to reign in Howie, not Chip.

      • oreofestar

        Howie is just doing whatever the hell Chip tells him too and it is obvious

      • Richard Colton

        If this is true…doesn’t it sound like Chip rather than Howie? Howie already gave DeSean a huge deal once.

        • GEAGLE

          My thing is, I’m not convinced Chip cares how much we are paying players…so if it’s all chips doing, it’s a cancer or offensive philosophy sort of Problem. If it’s about paying him 10mi, I can’t help but to think Howie is involved

          • RIP illa

            It’s both!!!

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I doubt something so drastic would happen without both their blessing

          • Richard Colton

            I still can’t believe any of this is real – let’s dump our second best offensive player because…he acts like a wide receiver?

          • oreofestar

            I still want to believe that it is just the Eagles are listening and there are a ton of teams calling rather than the Eagles want no part in Desan but that seems unlikely at this point

          • GEAGLE

            Best I can make sense of it is the theory I wrote about last night…nothing else makes much sense to me.. I can’t even believe this is happening

          • Richard Colton

            Its posturing.
            Hopefully Chip’s intellect trumps his arrogance and cooler heads prevail.

          • GEAGLE

            It looked better when Desean was talking about how he still wanted to be here, instead of fanning the flames and tweeting pics with all his new potential team mates…

          • RIP illa

            I really think it’s as good as done man. Too much has gone on for this to be repaired.

      • Guest

        Chip is going to pro days, scouting for the draft. Howie is the one worried about how much he is spending on receivers.

        “You’re looking at resource allocation and how much you can put at a
        particular position,” Roseman said. “It’s certainly going to depend on
        the price in anything you’re going to do.”

        The Eagles will be spending over $24 million on receivers this year, 2nd highest in the NFL. Jackson is the highest paid receiver AND player on the team. It’s not just cap space, it’s appropriate allocation of financial resources within the team. Mr. “I’m Deserving of a new contract” slit his own throat.

        • RIP illa

          Yes, he slit his own throat by being so productive and saying what everyone was already thinking when he originally signed his contract to begin with!!! And despite Chip being at pro days, he would have to give the ok on this move. So to suggest that he’s just too busy scouting, and can’t multi task and manage his team to the point where it all falls on Howie, is laughable!

          • Guest

            * “What everyone was already thinking when he originally signed”?

            You mean everyone including DeSean Jackson?

            “”I’m happy with the deal I’ve gotten and if I wasn’t happy I wouldn’t have signed it. . . . I felt that I got my worth.”
            – DeSean Jackson when he signed his current contract

            I never said Chip can’t multitask, but Howie is the driving force behind this, not Chip, although Chip apparently is going along with Howie’s plan. Your inability to see that this is all about money – and that’s Howie’s department – is what is laughable!

          • RIP illa

            Give it a rest Tom!!! I find it strange that your such a deductive reasoning genius that you can “read the tea leaves” and come away with this situation being all Deseans fault, but you failed to see that his contract would have to be reworked eventually, when he signed it and despite his quote. Everybody else knew!!!

            Where’s the quote about how Chip has final say on roster decisions…huh!!!

            You can’t just pick and chose to be an idiot or not just to support which ever side of your ass you wanna talk out if at the time…well actually, I guess you can, but you shouldn’t cuz it makes your credibility and future points look weak!

            How hard is it to understand that this lies at the feet of both of them??? How hard is it to understand that, despite this cluster fnck of a situation and handling, that the whole organization, still has to move as one??? It doesn’t F’n matter who’s driving or suggesting anything if all are in on it and going along with it!!!

            Damn, I feel like I stepped into the retard zone!!!

          • Guest

            Who’s Tom?

            Who told you “everyone” else knew? The voices in your head?

            Chip has final say on the 53-man roster, not the off-season. Didn’t you know that? Apparently not.

            Wow, you get excited easily. And resorting to name calling is the sure sign of someone who has lost the argument. Better luck next time!

          • RIP illa

            Lol.

    • Tom w

      Why aren’t you blaming djax and his agent and his entourage … They been doing all the talking and rumor spreading since the saints loss …. When does our front office ever leak a single god damn thing …. Never ever under Howie. Jesus how blind everyone is just to blame the coach.

      • Richard Colton

        DeSean can’t trade himself. The day he holds out or sulks – I’ll be blaming him. Just like I blamed him after the Minnesota game.

        • Tom w

          His agent can try and force the eagles hand Jesus not that hard to figure out

          • Richard Colton

            Not if you have the right guide he isn’t

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          yeah blame him after a career game vs the vikes.. smh

          • Richard Colton

            when he dogged it on the prater INT and fought his WR coach and Avant on the sideline. You watch the games or just read the fantasy box score Charlie?

          • ztom6

            yeah and his effort in pass coverage against Matt Cassell… just disgraceful

          • Richard Colton

            Nice Strawman. DeSean isn’t the perfect WR. He just happens to be the best we have. No reason to trade him, but no need to make excuses for him either.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            he is also the best WR we have ever had…

          • Richard Colton

            pry the best you’ve ever seen if you’re 11 years old

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            he is better then the one year TO had here, he is better then kevin curtis, he is better then reggie brown, he is better then fred ex, he is better than irving fryar was here, he is better then fred barnett… the only guy comparable is mike quick and desean is well on his way to breaking all of his records… the next guy would be harold, but harold never put up the yeard consistently desean does he just played here for a long time and was really tall and a unique player (like desean) and then there would be tommy mcdonald.. and that was over 50 years ago…. SO i guess desean is the best you have seen… unless u are very old…

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            Let’s not forget Cris Carter was a Eagle…and he’s in the HOF

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            yeah.. he was here one season.. smfh.. and was a drunken drug addict. let not forget that

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            We all know cris carter was high as a kite when he was here. I’m just saying… you mentioned Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis. At least say Djax is better than Cris Carter before you mention those two jokers.

          • Eagles4Life

            LOL still not letting go of this one, huh? I think I went back and forth for 2 days over this with you hahaha.

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah – that was a great one. Shame no one else saw it because It was a 3 day old thread. Anyway here’s where we’ll agree: DeSean is the best WR we have and 10X better than anything we would get in a trade.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            and yet he had a career game vs the vikes, so its more like u didnt watch the game and only read the final score dumbass

          • Richard Colton

            great comeback my man. best part was when you said the same exact thing twice.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            nah the best part is where u ignored that he had a career game because someone else caused a turnover and then had a kind of argument that happens on every team in the NFL.. lol dumbass

      • RIP illa

        OK Tom…Just keep leaving out the reports, that started 2-3 weeks ago and continue, that state sources within the organization, have said the eagles are either fielding offers, or trying to did themselves of DJax!!! SMH!!!

        • Eagles4Life

          Kinda like their free agency intentions this year?

    • JofreyRice

      I think there’s more than a chance it’s true. I think it’s pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point. Manish Mehtta of the NYDN citing a source that says its a “fact” he’s not coming back to the Eagles. PFT reporting he could be released.

      It’s a money thing, or an arrogance thing. Jackson is who he’s always been, and who plenty of other WRs are, too.

      • ztom6

        to be fair it is the NYDN, not known for its credibility.

        • JofreyRice

          Mehtta’s pretty solid. And this is the umpteenth source coming forward saying the same. It’s done, now it’s just a question of how much and when.

          • BigWhoopWannaFightAboutIt

            No one has ‘come forward’. Who the hell knows who these ‘sources’ are? Let’s not pretend sports writers who provide this kind of ‘information’ are to be trusted.

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, you’re right. Probably nothing to all this.

      • Richard Colton

        Yeah. Easy to laugh off when it was D.Gunn and Bleacher Report. Now I’m worried.

      • Token

        He thinks hes a 10+ million WR and Chip and the Eagles dont. Thats the rub and it will always present a problem.

        Just get this thing over with already. What a horribly played out scenario. A trade like this should have went down before anyone even knew it was a possibility. I guessing it was made so public because the Eagles were trying to drum up interest that wasnt there. I dont think theres many teams in the league that think DeSean Jackson is a 12.5 million dollar WR.

        • ztom6

          it doesn’t matter if the Eagles think he’s worth 10.5 or not. They have plenty of cap and they aren’t cheap with players. All that should matter to the Eagles is how much he’s worth to them vs. how much they can get for him.

          • Token

            They spend the big bucks on ST aces. We might even be a average ST unit this year!

        • Kev_H

          I don’t think Kelly cares about the money. I think it’s all football and Jackson isn’t able to do all the things Kelly wants from a receiver.

        • Cheesesteak

          No other team thinks he’s worth that much ither, which is why noone’s trading for him yet.

    • ztom6

      maybe Lurie’s the one who wants him gone, who knows?

      • Richard Colton

        He’s been here since ’08 and is on his 2nd contract. Lurie slow playing his hand?

    • Weapon Y

      If this move blows up in our faces (and it will unless we’re lucky enough to pull off a move like the Vikings drafting Randy Moss), Chip Kelly deserves to be fired. You do not hand over one of your team’s five best players for nothing and get a slap on the wrist. I will lead the Fire Chip chants.

    • eneagled

      Here’s a list of all the players taken at Desean’s pick in the darft or early, since 2008, the year he was drafted.

      Tavon Austin, DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarrelle Patterson, Justin
      Hunter, Robert Woods, Josh Gordon, Justin Blackmon, Michael Floyd, Kendall
      Wright, A.J. Jenkins, Brian Quick ,Stephen Hill, Alshon Jeffery, A.J. Green,
      Julio Jones, Jon Baldwin, Titus Young, Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Arrelious
      Benn, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Michael Crabtree, Jeremy Maclin, Percy Harvin,
      Hakeem Nicks, Kenny Britt, Brian Robiskie, Donnie Avery, Devin Thomas, Jordy
      Nelson, James Hardy, Eddie Royal, Jerome Simpson, DeSean Jackson

      There’s 5 in this list of 34 that definitely take over DeSean, and maybe another 5 I’d call a tossup. Even ignoring the Raiders and Browns, I don’t like our odds. And that’s assuming we get at least a mid- 2nd round pick for him.

    • Coatesvillain

      Amen.

    • FinsterBaby

      That is 100% on the money. Either the birds have lost their minds or Kelly and DJax are in it together and are pulling a fast one on everyone.

  • Scott J

    I don’t know why Jackson wouldn’t want to restructure his contract, especially if he could get more guaranteed money up front.

  • ztom6

    Why did they not just trade him at the start of FA when teams had cap? I accept that that was probably the original plan, but why not just bite the bullet and pull the trigger rather than let it get to this point where the entire NFL knows they’re looking to flat out dump him? Even if that was their goal in the first place,the execution has been horribly botched.

  • oreofestar

    So disgusting some Cowboys fans think they will get Desean….give me freaking Bryant if you want Desean

  • oreofestar

    We are beating the Blues keep the streak alive and Sixers please keep that streak alive too

  • Scott J

    I would think Dallas, Washington and NY are pretty happy about this.

    • oreofestar

      why wouldn’t they be, we would be unstoppable to stop with DJAX now without him while we a still good we would be very stoppable

  • Justin

    At this point I’m trying to figure out exactly what DJax did to piss the FO off so much.

  • oreofestar

    Maybe Desean wanted more money and the FO said hell no and would rather trade him then deal with a holdout and everything else and they are dangling him in trades his agent talks deal with other teams if he does not like what he hears he shuts up and comes back if he likes what he hears he hopes the team is willing to give up a pick ad give him a new deal,

  • Will

    Is DeSean Jackson traded yet? What did we get for him? I mean hell get it over with the sharpest knife cuts the quickest…

    • GEAGLE

      You watch game of thrones? When you slaughter a lame, if they see the knife coming, their fear taints the meats taste…you can’t let a lame see the blade coming…same with this situation. If we didn’t want him in 2014, this isn’t something we just decided a month ago…so if we knew this, we should have traded him during the combine when no one could see this move coming…I feel Iike his value goes down every day that goes by and he isn’t traded..

      • Corey

        You mean trade him during the combine before the new league year began and before trading was allowed? We really should have done that, what were they thinking?!

        • GEAGLE

          As if they couldn’t worked out a trade and just announced it the day the new league year started..but thanks for being a dick for no reason

          • Corey

            I just thought I would correct you, lol, you didn’t say work out the terms during the combine and wait (when it would have still been against the rules to talk about trades anyway, even though most still do) you said trade him during the combine. There is always a reason to be a dick, not that I meant anything personal by it.

          • reb

            Bwa ha ha ha!! Blind irony is the funniest.

      • Richard Colton

        The NFC North Remembers

  • EagleDuck

    Without DJax, Chip Kelly’s college offense can never succeed in the NFL… I mean, shoot, he’s barely skating by without a running Quarterback, losing a fast wide receiver will be the death of this new-fangled offensive experiment.

    • oreofestar

      Ok I love DJAX but his departure would not be the death of this offense it wouldn’t cripple us it would just give us a limp, I still see no reason to get rid of your best pass catcher but I am not one of the asses in charge

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    It’d be really funny if the Eagles open up shop on Monday with a new deal for Desean and he, Howie, and Chip are on the podium together taking group pictures.

    • oreofestar

      lol that would be great, but it won’t happen

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    if desean goes to seattle or the 49ers.. wow the rich would just get richer.. smfh.. words cant describe how pissed i am

    • ztom6

      both on the schedule next year, still the two most likely teams to host the conference championship… good grief.

    • oreofestar

      Howie would be an idiot to let that happen just watching Desean scorch our secondary smh…

    • IAteLunchToday

      I’m a little biased, but I actually like the thought of him going to Seattle… Wilson, Lynch, Harvin, Jackson with Pete Carroll’s defense… Still don’t really understand why they are doing this.

      • oreofestar

        If the Eagles have any intent on wiining a sb they would not let that happen

        • IAteLunchToday

          Yeah, you would think. I just hope he doesn’t end up in SF. They have so many draft picks, too.

          • oreofestar

            Well SF could not possibly afford him they have 4.22mil in cap space a million picks to sign and a QB who wants to GET PAID not enough to go around

          • IAteLunchToday

            Yeah, but if you told me a couple months ago that the Saints would sign Byrd and the Eagles would be shopping Jackson, I wouldn’t have thought those were possible either… But I do believe you are right.

  • #7

    Chip Kelly sure is an arrogant f#@k. Wow.

    • GEAGLE

      Shouldn’t you be on a jets blog?

      • #7

        No I shouldn’t

        • DharmaBum

          LOL

        • Richard Colton

          Come on #7, we miss you around here. Have to change the avatar and name though.
          Just a suggestion: “theartistformallyknownas#7″
          try it out.

          • #7

            We’ll see. Not liking Chip Kelly right now

          • GEAGLE

            We call that a fair weather bandwagon fan..

          • OldDocRoss

            This is the angriest I think I’ve seen him since that time Chip Kelly said ‘we’ve had instability and poor play at the QB position’ at a time when we had instability and poor play at the QB position.

            Toys were flung from his pram with gusto.

          • #7

            So it should be in Chip Kelly we trust on everything or you’re a fair weather fan lol. Alrighty

          • Eagles4Life

            We call it thinking with one’s brain instead of blindly agreeing.

          • RIP illa

            Who’s this we you speak of??? Have you seen my pair about Chip and Howie lately??? Lol. Thought the Eagles were here before Chip and will be long after! BTW…I reserve the right to do an instant 180 if he brings a SB or 2 to Philly!!!

          • Maggie

            Why not? He and the FO are just doing their jobs. Would all this sobbing and weeping and name-calling be going on if the rumors were swirling around , oh, let’s say, Nate Allen? Yes, yes, not as productive, but the FO’s job is to keep improving this team, looking forward not back.

          • OldDocRoss

            #9

            Gotta move with the times.

      • Richard Colton

        Imagine Vick/DeSean/Ebron – that’s instant offense. With that D, the Jets might win 10.

        • GEAGLE

          They gotta do something if I’m Rex and I just watched the best player we had in years sign with the patriots??that defense is no joke! Vick while healthy gives them a much better chance to win early in the season and they can hope that Geno will be better by the time Vick gets inevitably hurt..
          ..,
          You are absolutely right. But you are forgetting Decker. The would have Vick sorrounded by Decker,Desean!Ebron…Draft a quality RB, and some more defenders and they would have a legit team and improve enough to save Rex job.
          ..

          • Richard Colton

            Totally forgot about Decker, you’re right. Their offense could really hum if Vick stays upright.

          • GEAGLE

            I’d consider him also if I’m Andy and I just watched the broncos stock up in free agency after going to the Super Bowl..
            Start a bidding war between Andy,Marty and John Harbaugh!!
            .
            Sucks that Irsay is in rehab and that Snyder and Jerry are in our division, cause you know we would be getting like 3 first round picks for Desean!!

    • Maggie

      ;~}

  • John E. Zang

    I for one can’t wait until he’s gone. You can’t win with him. I’ll guarantee he’s on bad terms with foles. I’ll bet he was sour after his boy Vick got benched. He’s a sour puss little whiny baby. He’s a cancer like TO but with less value. Can’t wait to turn a new leaf and get good hard nosed football players on this TEAM. He’s a highlight reel just like Vick. This team won’t miss him trust me. They’re going to pick his replacement in the draft and it will be a breath of fresh air. No more drama. He’s unhappy even when he’s winning.

    • Richard Colton

      Guess we should just trust you then.

      “I’ll guarantee he’s on bad terms with foles.” – based on what proof?

      • IAteLunchToday

        It’s why he’s being shopped, duh! :)

    • ztom6

      I could see his relationship with Foles being an issue, but it’s all just speculation.

      • DharmaBum

        Interestingly though, the last few post on DeSean’s Instagram are video compilations of Vick to DJax TD’s…not one of Foles to DJax. Sure, it might just be some nostalgia on his part, but with all the DJax to Jets speculation, I’d say there’s a message in there.

        • ztom6

          It looked to me he posted those videos to commemorate his time with Vick as a teammate now that Vick is no longer an Eagle (he just signed with the Jets). But in the context of other stuff he’s posted recently it could mean more than that.

          • DharmaBum

            Well, along with those, his other posts over the last two days include a pic with the Raider’s Marcel Reese (where they are both giving gang signs, lol), a pick with him and Carolina QB Cam Newton, and a pick from a high school recruiting visit from SEA head coach Pete Carroll. Along with the Jets, all three teams are among the most speculated trade partners. Think maybe he’s trying to say something?

          • ztom6

            That’s what I was referring to in my second sentence.

          • DharmaBum

            Heard that.

    • Eagles4Life

      This sounds genius.

    • reb

      How soon we forget TO. DJax is nowhere in the same “cancer” league.

      • Johnny Domino

        Kinda “funny-shaped mole on your nose” vs. “fully metastasized”?

        • reb

          Exactly! And then it starts holding press conferences in the driveway and throwing the QB under the bus… Something like that.

    • Maggie

      Oh please.

  • GEAGLE

    I’m with Sheil that this is all too toxic to let fester until the draft. I would be shocked if he is on the roster one week after the meetings end

    • oreofestar

      Yeah at the owner’s meeting one of two things have to happen you either trade him or Chip has to commit to him when he is inevitably pummeled with Desean questions

    • DharmaBum

      Like I just responded to your other post, I am curious to see what happens between now an Wednesday. Chip/Howie have to face the media then and i would not want to be them, if this is still unresolved. I can’t even imagine the bludgeoning they’re gonna take when they take the mic…

      • GEAGLE

        Oh yeah!! I’d be dreading the owners meeting for sure right now if I’m them

        • DharmaBum

          The way I see it, they only have two reasonable options : trade him before then, or stand up there and say they’re keeping him, even if they still intend to trade him. What they cannot do, is stand up there and try any variation of “No comment”. They also can’t stand up there and say that they’re trying to trade him, as if they haven’t lost enough leverage already.

          Yeah, without some action before then, it’s a no win situation for them.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup…I don’t see any way around your scenarios

          • Maggie

            Why can’t they stand there and say “no comment”? Because we won’t like it?

          • GEAGLE

            I think they will have to bite the bullet and prove to everyone that we will keep him if we don’t get value, and prove to him that he doesn’t get an extra dollar out of us, so he can’t just afford to fan the flames until we cut him, because we will rather pay him 10mil to stay home. Before we lose him for nothing

  • GEAGLE

    There are some really decent team around the NFL who could be ready to win now, but happen to be stuck in very tough divisions…Desean is a rare opportunity for them to add a dangerous weapon to help shake the balance of power in certain divisions…
    If I’m the Seahawks I don’t want to see him sign with the Niners, and vice versa…if I’m the Cardinals who have a pretty nice veteran team in place but have NO shot because their division is so tough, I think I would have to consider restructuring my cap and giving up a 5th pick to secure him

    If I’m the jets and I just watched the best player I had in years sign with the patriots! I go do something to try and keep up! especially if I’m Rex who is running out of time as the Jets coach

    Browns,Steelers,bengals!ravens aren’t elite teams! but are all pretty competitive within their division. it’s such a closely contested Division, that a player like Jackson could tip the balance of power and get you over the hump in that division
    ,,
    The Vikings have a new coach who’s in a division where he has to start doing something to even have a chance at not wasting what time AP has left..

    Surprised the Bucs and Lovie have no interest. Lovie is a defensive coach, who has plenty of pieces on that side of the ball, sure he can draft WRs, but if he uses his picks to solidify his defense, and you line up DJax across from Vjax, I could see you being ready to compete with Glennon immediately

    And How In hell do all these rumors happen, without a single DJax to Kansas City rumor? Give that team another pro bowl WR, and some secondary help and they have a chance at hanging with the broncos..Broncos went to the SB, then added a dream team free agent haul! while KC has done NOTHING. The BETTER give some thought to securing Djax if they want to keep up with the Broncos

    • ztom6

      All of what you say makes perfect sense, but my question is why are we talking about this now instead of at the beginning of FA when more teams had cap?

      • GEAGLE

        Because for a team intent on not having Desean on it’s roster next year, we played our hands as bad as we possibly could.

  • GEAGLE

    How the hell have we heard 6000 rumors, and not a single one about Kansas City?

    • Mike Tyner

      Andy is a ninja, thats the only explanation

    • DharmaBum

      Just lends creedence to the notion that there’s something the Eagles know (both current and past Eagles staff) that we don’t.

      • Corey

        Something Mornhenwig, Vick, and the Jets don’t know also? See, that doesn’t make sense.

        • Mike Tyner

          Well, right now the jets will take almost anyone. Their skill positions on offense were doodoo last yr

        • DharmaBum

          Yeah, I don’t give Marty and the desperate Jets as much credit as I give Andy and the Chiefs. Remember, Marty’s not the head coach, a very desperate Rex Ryan holds that distinction. Andy knows it’d be his ass if he insists on bringing in whoever. Big difference.

  • Mike Tyner

    I know he has been a pain in the rear end most of his career but he has been productive and you dont just release guys under 30 for no reason. Hmm???

  • oreofestar

    nice statement win against the Blues today

  • Eagles4Life

    SO many sheep out here for the front office it is ridiculous…

    1. Was ANYONE saying anything about or even suggesting we should get rid of DJacc after this season was over? All I seem to remember was him being lauded for his numbers and commending Chip on using him in the variety of ways that he did to make plays for himself and others. You’ve got 2 WRs coming off ACLs, Riley Cooper, Damaris freaking Johnson, and Jeff Ishouldprobablyjustbea Maehlman. Get real.

    2. For the idiots saying “oh, well DJax wasn’t that good before Chip the past few years”…NEVER less than 900 yards in a season except for the one in which he was injured. Furthermore, let’s not forget how everyone started complaining in the waning Andy years about how our offense was “predictable” and “stale.” Nevertheless, how many All-22s did we see of teams saying forget everything else this offense is doing, we’re dropping 2 safeties 20+ yards back so we don’t get beat by DJax? A lot. You can claim production went down, but he still had to be accounted for. Period.

    3. For the love of God, please explain to me how we have “too much” money invested in Jackson that will prevent us from re-signing players we want to keep.

    Blind following. Smh.

    • Maggie

      For heaven’s sake, the FO is NOT “getting rid of” Jackson. He is one of many hundreds of football players who get traded every year, when the management of a team thinks they can SOMETHING ELSE they want, for their team!

      • Eagles4Life

        How many top tier players get traded every year? We aren’t talking about the summertime swaps teams make for low men on the totem pole.

  • Oregon Eagle

    Oregon fan here. Trust Chip! It still hurts that he left, but now I’m an Eagles fan! I actually follow the Eagles more than the Ducks now.

    • TripSquadMonopoly

      Ive trusted Chip blindly up until this point. He literally could do nothing wrong but this doesn’t make any sense so easier said than done.

  • kstagg

    Hey, I don’t like DJ crying over renegotiating of the ridiculous millions he already signed for. Every stinking year. And I’m extremely excited to have Kelly here. Practically wetting my pants about the future. But I’ll give Reid one thing. When DJ got out of hand, he just benched him. Couldn’t we do that? His contract surely has performance clauses. If he misses games, he could miss out on that cash. Just a thought.

    • GEAGLE

      Bench him, send him home…anything is better then cutting him and getting nothing on return for losing him

  • John E. Zang

    Desean Jackson will be out of the league sooner than most wideouts. His one and only advantage on the field is his speed. He’s not a disciplined route runner, he’s a non-factor against physical corners, and has a poor attitude taboot. You have to have a whole game plan around getting him in open space. Essentially you have to be creative to get him the ball every play, he doesn’t have much of a craft. Can’t rember the last time he caught a ball contested by a defender and shed them for a long play or first down because he can’t. He’s the smallest player on the field in every game barring some kickers and punters.

  • GEAGLE

    Most recent reports are jets absolutely have interest in Desean but not at his current contract…

    Laconfra says the Niners and Seahawks are still interested but they can’t get him unless he redoes his deal..and that several GMs expecting us to cut him, but that talks will intensify during the owners meeting.
    ..
    We have Oakland, Jets, panthers! Niners, hawks potentially interested. I would assume ATleast 3 teams we haven’t heard about are also interested like KC..

    This talk about cutting him has to stop. Under no circumstances can we cut him..we have to make his agent believe that we will spitefully hold on to him until we get some damn value…Listen, his agent AINT seeing a friggin Penny until Desean signs a new contract…if we Give him permission to basically talk and negotiate with whoever he wants, basically being a free agent without officially being a free agent, I’m sure he will work with us…but we have to be willing to bluff and back it up if need be..

    Trust me if you tell his agent, that we won’t under any circumstances lose him without getting value in return and we won’t give him a new deal, that agent will be very motivated to do whatever he has to, to get a new deal for Desean, because he won’t be paid until he does…it’s also an agent we worked well with in the a past, and who currently is representing Vick,Cooper, and I’m not sure but maybe also Maclin

    From there, we have to make it clear to every other GM that we will never lose him without getting any value in return. But we have to be willing to get messy and keep him longer then we would like…but Desean is a good enough player who can really help some teams in tough divisions to where someone won’t let a 5th round pick keep them from AQUIRING such a game ready talent…there are some desperate coaches and GMs fighting to keep their jobs..all we need is two teams to look at this as a serious opportunity to upgrade their team…if we play hardball and are willing to keep him rather then lose him for nothing, a GM or coach on the hot seat probably can’t afford to wait for that 4th round pick to develop and pay dividends and hopefully one of them views Desean as a chance to maybe save their job

    • RIP illa

      What??? He’ll still get paid! Eagles already lost this one.

      • GEAGLE

        Don’t know what you are trying to say

        • RIP illa

          Spitefully hold on to him…agent won’t see a penny…etc. We would still have to pay him what he’s owed, therefore DJax’s agent will get paid…and his agent both win. If you’re basing your post off the fact that DJax wants more money, then I guess you could try and play that game with him and his agent. But as I understand it, it was all about vary teed $ and security. Sure everybody wants more $ but I’m saying that security seems prioritized. So despite if the Eagles want something in return, there’s not really much of a way, that I see, of them getting it. They played their hand and lost. It’s over. DJax holds all the cards now.

          • GEAGLE

            As I understand it, agents get paid when the contract is signed…I don’t believe they are getting portions of each of their clients game checks…they get paid for negotiating that deal and they don’t get paid again til their clients sign a new deal…that’s my understanding of it

          • RIP illa

            Ok. I see what your saying now, after reading through a bit more. I still don’t like it and I still doubt that that’s what’s happening, as of now. I think that’s a dangerous game for the Eagles to play. How many times are they gonna mess with this kid over money??? And how many times is he gonna keep pushing back as a result??? It’s not a good look for the organization and going forward with future FAs and/or trying to resign our own. Unless the plan is to only sign subpar to 2nd their talent and never sign a superstar or re-up on a home grown superstar. It’s part of the FO’s job to avoid TO type situations, and this would be just as bad, if not worse. As of now, it looks like they F’d up. The right thing to do is cut their losses, instead of making it worse for their reputation, the fans, the coaches, and the locker room.

          • ztom6

            his new agent isn’t getting anything unless he gets a new contract

          • GEAGLE

            Which is why you hear people say “you know Desean has an agent in his ear telling him we have to get a new deal done”

          • Adam G

            Exactly. His old agent gets a portion of his current salary when he gets paid. He fired his old agent, Rosenhaus, before this past season. His new agent ONLY gets paid on a NEW contract. You think maybe the new agent is pushing DJax to get cut?

    • GEAGLE

      We can’t lose a 27year old probowler coming off his best year for nothing..and I SERIOUSLY doubt we will be spending his 10million this year, so if you have to hold on to a malcontent Desean for another 6months to a year to get value in return so be it we ain’t doing anything else with his 10mil anyway…might as well spend it on keeping him, so a team that wants him,and an agent that wants him to sign a new deal so he can get paid again decide to start working together on a deal that the eagles can live with…

      CAN NOT CUT HIM!! We gave up a 5th for Sproles, and we can’t lose Desean for less then that…Keep him, and don’t give him a new deal, until teams who wanted him and an agent who wants to get paid decide to start working together to get Desean out of Philly…The way Egene Parker and the Eagles worked together to get Jason Peters out of Buffalo

    • ztom6

      Instead of cutting him, suspend him and deactivate him. Not letting him go to another team is better than cutting him.

      • OldDocRoss

        Suspend him for……?

        • ztom6

          whatever the hell it is they’re trying to trade him for.

          • Maggie

            They are trying to trade him for 2 draft picks.

          • GEAGLE

            Just flat out tell him, you DO NOT get a new deal for us. You can make 10mil if you are the perfect team mate..anything Less then you go to the bench, act up and you are suspended. Zero Tolerance…if that doesn’t work for you, your agent has permission to seek out a trade and negotiate a new deal for you…if you can’t get anyone to bite, suck it up, and you will be a free agent in two years…

            It’s not like we WIll do anything with the money we save taking him off the books, so why would I rather see Lurie pocket more money?

          • ztom6

            Yup. It will literally be TO 2005 all over again, but yup.

          • GEAGLE

            Thy created this mess playing their hand so poorly…so if they have to continue to pay Desean to rebuild his trade value, so be it…Lurie pocketing his money, while we get nothing in return is unacceptable…like FOCK outta here. We got GMs laughing at us waiting for us to cut him…we simply can’t allow that!!!! Bite the bullet and keep him as long as you have to until you get value in return
            .,.
            Who the hell is to say if you cut him that he won’t sign with the skins,cowboys or Giants…GTFO here!!

          • RIP illa

            And I fail to see how that’s a good thing!

          • GEAGLE

            We needed TO…if we are willing to cut him then who cares, suspend him..hold him hostage til you get value.

          • Kev_H

            You can’t do a TO 2005 anymore and arbitrarily suspend a guy because you don’t like. Protection against such nonsense has since been established in the CBO.

          • DharmaBum

            While I think they would use the savings, I couldn’t agree with your first paragraph more. That is the perfect approach.

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t be sitting here with a probowler WR in his prime coming off his best season, get nothing in return, while 30 GMs laugh at us waiting to cut him…gotta be willing to play hardball until someone decides that since they will give him a new deal anyway, they might as well give up a 5th rounder to keep us from holding him hostage

          • GEAGLE

            And Desean needs to understand that he don’t get a penny more out of us, But there are teams who will give him a new deal, so if he wants more money! he better help us convince them to give up a pick instead of helping them assume we will just end up losing the game of chicken and cut him.
            ..
            Him and his agent need to understand that this is all they are getting until someone gives up a pick for him…and since they know someone will give him that new deal, they better help us make that team understand that they will never get him for nothing, but that he can be had at a reasonable price

          • DharmaBum

            Agreed. With all the whining we’ve tolerated from him over the years, if he’s gonna try and hold us hostage now by refusing to play ball in a trade — a restructuring which will undoubtedly land him more guaranteed cash in the form of a signing bonus, btw — then I say we play MAJOR hardball with him. Granted, I’m saying this in anger, not rationally, but at this point I’d just sit him for the next two years, or at least tell him we’re going to do that. That’d goad him into some crazy enough behavior that we’d then be able to suspend him for cause. That’d take care of the money issue. See how he likes the prospect of wasting two years in the prime of his career, sitting on the bench.

          • GEAGLE

            Damn right brother…we don’t negotiate with terrorists and I’ll be damned if 31 GMs make a fool out of us

      • GEAGLE

        Totally agree…I could see if we said, hey we can really use his 10million dollars you improve out team, but every single eagles fan knows that we ain’t spending his 10mil this year, so I’d rather use that 10mil to keep him until someone gives us value, then seeing Lurie save 10mil losing a stud for nothing…

        I just have come to terms with trading him…asking me to stomach cutting him, is simply too much to ask of me

    • DharmaBum

      Yeah, I mean if we trade him to a team that accepts his contract, Joel Segal won’t see a dime. The only things that Joel Segal will be recommending will be to agree to a new/restructured contract, facilitating a trade, OR holding out until the Birds cut him. If we play hardball and threaten to just keep him,they will have to cave on the restructuring…thereby, making DeSean more valuable to an interested team…and hence, possibly bringing us a better return.

      • GEAGLE

        Exactly why we have to play some serious hardball, and be willing to keep him into July if need be to prove to the league that you do not get Desean Jackson unless we are compensatedl if not! teams can feel fee to wait til he is a free agent at the age of 29…

        I tolerate this team never spending anywhere close to all of the cap and always saving our owner money. I know they ain’t doing a damn thing with the money they save trading him…so I’d much rather see them pay Desean til him and some desperate Coach GM trying to save their Jobs cave and decide they can’t wait on a draft pick to grow up and produce because they may be fired by then

        • Adam G

          They spent almost the whole cap last year.

          • GEAGLE

            If they get to cut him and save that extra 6mil or whatever it is this year, please don’t pretend that there is some 6million dollar player out there for us to sign, who we aren’t signing right now because we are short on money. They ain’t spending any more real money on new acquisitions til after next season…so I’d rather see them pay Desean for this next season, then pocket 6mil, losing him for nothing

          • Adam G

            Oh no, I agree, out of those two choices. But a lot of commenters keep on saying that they don’t ever spend up to the cap. They did last year, which a lot of people don’t know.

          • GEAGLE

            Didn’t they roll over a bunch of cap to this year, and brag to everyone about how much Cap we had right now? If they spent most of the cap how did they roll it over? I’m confused…

          • Adam G

            Nope, their numbers are low for this year. They used up all their space last year.

          • UKEagle99

            Our numbers are not low. Saints salary bill is $130m ours is $133m. We have room as we rolled some over and we will do so again in to 2015 when we will need some room to maneuver.

      • Warhound

        If they cut DeSean, will someone claim him off waivers? They would pay the current contract and the new agent wouldn’t see a dime.

  • Adam G

    I actually think when push comes to shove and the Eagles take their stance that they won’t cut him, the Jets will give up a couple of picks. They are desperate. I live in New York and they are the laughing stock of the city, which is hard to do in a city with the Knicks and Mets. Rex needs to do something to save his job, he certainly will be canned if this current team takes the field.

    • GEAGLE

      They have to take that stance….they can’t just let Desean and his Agent get a shiney new deal, some team get a probowl WR in His prime, while we get nothing, while we don’t even have cap issues…they have to take that stance until we get value…
      ..
      This front office seemed to put a lot of emphasis shaking the old negative images people had of them..It’s bad enough they will trade a player in his prime who electrifies this city, but there is no way in hell they can cut him and get nothing for him…seriously this current fanbase will hate Howie and Lurie like they hated Braman for giving away Reggie…losing Djax for nothing will hang around Howies and Lurie’s neck for like the next 30years…

      • Adam G

        I really don’t think they will cut him, but 30 years is a little bit of an exaggeration. Funny thing is, when they made the deal, it was really considered a two year deal. And everybody knew that the Eagles would have to do something this year before the season. Either restructure or cut. Looks like the answer is really trade.

        • GEAGLE

          Yup, it was assumed that this was his contract year and now his deal woulda be revisited

        • djack10

          30 years isn’t so far-fetched. The Reggie White debacle was 21 years ago. And people still talk about it like it was yesterday. This is equally as appalling. The only two moves I can think of that would be ahead of it on the WTF list are Dawkins and White.

      • Brian

        Please don’t compare DeSean Jackson to Reggie White, EVER again.

  • DharmaBum

    Ya know, all this mystery about exactly WHY the Birds want rid of DeSean has got my wheels turning. There has to be something that hasn’t been revealed yet…something the Eagles know, and aren’t saying (not that they’re saying anything, anyway.) It makes me think about that whole robbery thing. Not that I think he’s a drug dealer, for having that much money lying around. More along the lines of how suspicious the circumstances of the robbery were themselves.

    Listen, the Eagles, like any good organization, have internal security guys, people who are career investigators. Ex-military, FBI, whatever. If you don’t think they asked these guys to find out the real story about that robbery, and DeSean, in general, you’re kidding yourself. That’s just what a smart, billion-dollar business does when it comes to their investments. Who knows what they found? Maybe they believe it was a sham to defraud the insurance company and they know it’s eventually going to come out. I mean, wasn’t the amount stolen around the same amount for which Rosenhaus is suing DeSean? That’s a tenuous connection, sure, but I have to believe they know something about Jackson in regards to that incident or some other potentially dangerous activity.

    I’m just speculating, for sure, but trust me: The Eagles, like any other team, are a giant corporation and they don’t just throw away valuable assets on a whim. These guys make competitive/business decisions based on all the best available information. That’s a fact. One day, we may find out what it is…maybe we won’t. And maybe they know that it will hurt us in the short term, but feel like their hands are tied, and they have to bite the bullet.

    • Kev_H

      I think it’s straight football. You don’t trade a guy with pending legal trouble if you hope to make a future trade ever.

      • DharmaBum

        That’s a good point, and I thought about that. Call it a nagging feeling, that’s all. Beyond all the rational football/business explanations, there’s just something that doesn’t sit well with me, surrounding this whole situation.

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    So I just read on BGN that Desean hasn’t returned any of Chip’s calls… this just gets stranger and stranger.

    • GEAGLE

      Would take that site too serious..they let Mike Kaye write for them

      • DEaglesWay

        Djac wants to know where he stands with eagles, but hasnt returned any of chip kelly's call's since season ended. #communications— Derrick Gunn (@TheRealDGunnCSN) March 22, 2014

        • Kd711

          Wow. If that’s true, then I have to think DeSean’s agent has been pushing for a new contract, threatening holdout, etc.

          • Tom w

            New deal. Kids broke. Faked the robbery. Shits going down.

        • Brian

          If it’s true, Eff MeSean. I don’t want to see a repeat of him quitting on the field.

    • Token

      Somethings gone on behind the scenes to spur this on.

      • UKEagle99

        There has to be a reason and we are obviously oblivious to it. No team would do this to their 2nd best play maker without good reason. I also wonder why DJ wasn’t with Shady and the boys today, he likes the hoops.

        • John E. Zang

          If I had to make a guess it would be a multitude of issues. He’s a diva and takes plays off, he’s one-dimensional and almost worthless as a blocker, off-field behavior, he doesn’t like Foles and wanted Vick over him, wants more money, and finally he’s simply not worth even his current deal given the aforementioned. There’s nothing that bodes well for him in Chip’s eyes. To begin with Chip Kelly likes humble players that are all-in and knows he needs more size at the position.

      • Nfl All Day

        NFL Security is likely in all these players business, is it possible he might just have an associate who they consider a Red Flag, and that’s the final straw. Gotta be something off field more than just being a big mouth.

      • Tom w

        That’s what I am hearing too. That robbery was no coincidence. Shit is going down.

    • Nfl All Day

      Desean probably at a point where is in his best interest to get cut, hit the open market, and get a bunch of GUARANTEED $$$$$$. He’s owed roughly $36M that he knows he’s not getting all of regardless what happens with a trade. He can’t go to far when it comes to talking sh%the and forcing the issue or he’ll damage his value, but a few in stage am pix of him with potential new QBs. Anonymous quotes about him feeling his days are number, etc…. All helps grease the wheels

      • Will

        Desean be lucky to get 5-6 million a year ….in line with WR’s catching 1400 yards a season….

        • Nfl All Day

          Depends. Jets and Raiders have so much money and such a great need. NYJ especially.

  • GEAGLE

    What’s funny is that a week ago we were all flipping out about us trading him and we were under the impression that we would get a late first or a second….what I would give to get that for him now, when the threat of losing him for nothing hangs over our head…”shit was all good just a week ago”-jay Z lol

    • Tom w

      Trade his ass. Dumb agent screwed this kid over. Guess he gotta get paid.

      • Adam G

        The more info comes out, the more it looks like the agent is orchestrating this whole thing. I’m sure he has Desean’s ear and he ONLY gets paid on a new contract. How do you do that? Force the eagles to either cut him, or force a restructure with the Eagles(not happening) or another team. This agent definitely wants him cut to maximize the money in HIS pocket.

        • GEAGLE

          Funny how much shit both of you talked when I said this was all his agents doing this past tuesday

          • Adam G

            Please point to one instance where I replied to your post saying it wasn’t the agent. If I did, I don’t remember. We certainly didn’t know that supposedly Desean wouldn’t call chip back.

  • Kev_H

    All the media and many fans misread what Kelly is all about. I think many of the fans got attached to the clown players that led the team to 12-20 during Reid’s last years and blamed everything on Andy. But when you listen to Kelly describe what he values in a player, it is the opposite of Jackson. It’s been reported that they tried to trade him last year at this time.

    My interpretation is that Kelly doesn’t want him on the roster (does he do what is asked of him every play and every day? If not, strong coaches don’t go for that). Howie is trying to get what he can and already probably has some deals in place. The best one will likely be made before the players get back together.

    • anon

      Good coaches get people in line not always going to get boyscouts and you’re going to have to overpay for talented ones.

      • IAteLunchToday

        While I agree with you, I think Chip Kelly has said when you start making exceptions then you end up with a team full of exceptions… Something like that. I think he was referencing size, but the principle remains the same. Maybe that’s his line of thinking. I don’t know.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Bye bye

    • Richard Colton

      be careful what you wish for. Lots of WRs in the 2nd round. A few of them are DeSean Jacksons. Most of them are Todd Pinkstons.

      • UKEagle99

        “I got it, I got it… I don’t got it”

    • IAteLunchToday

      … Miss American Pie

  • TripSquadMonopoly

    Regardless of whether DJac stays or goes. I think we can all agree this is the first time something in the Chip Kelly era was handled just straight up bad. FO failed the handling of this situation.

    • UKEagle99

      Hard to say as we know diddly squat, which is what the real issue is. Every one of us is asking why? Until we know it’s hard to point fingers and draw conclusions.

    • Tom w

      Nah. Djax wanting a new deal and having his agent spread rumors. Wake up how’s that the front office fault let alone chip Jesus Christ

  • Weapon Y

    I want every Eagles reporter doing real investigative reporting to find out what it exactly it was that pissed Chip Kelly off enough that he’s actually considering releasing one of the most irreplaceable receivers in the NFL. If it’s nothing more than that he’s a big asshole, this is a major red flag on Chip Kelly. This isn’t Boy Scouts. I’m not interested in the best citizens. I want the best players, and if they’re big douchebags, I don’t give a shit. I don’t pay to see nice guys. I pay to see guys kick Dallas’s ass.

    • Richard Colton

      “I pay to see guys kick Dallas’s ass” – great line

      • dollamakeuholla

        I take it you still believe all this is conjectural nonsense?

        • Richard Colton

          Perfect for you, because none of it makes sense.

          • dollamakeuholla

            LOL….. Especially if we get zero for him!!!

    • Kev_H

      Then #10 hasn’t been earning his money from you last couple years. Dallas’ been stopping him.

      • Weapon Y

        Question: Are the Eagles a significantly worse team without DeSean Jackson than with?
        Answer: Yes. Look how the offense went from bad to mind-numbingly awful when he got injured in 2012. That’s what the offense looked like with Maclin and Cooper as our starting WRs. I’m not eager to see such a thin group of receivers, and no rookie could possibly fill half the void left by DJax.

        • G_WallyHunter

          It’s a good example to look back at that season, but to consider those two as the 1 2 then the whole new system has to be taken into consideration as well, 2012 was a stale a$$ Andy offense without the Oline they have now

          • Weapon Y

            Oh of course the offense wouldn’t be as bad as 2012. But the drop off would be the same and it could definitely be the difference between the Eagles making the playoffs and not.

        • Kev_H

          That’s bogus. McCoy, Peters, and Celek were out too. But during the four games Foles played after Jackson got hurt, he passed on a pace for 4600+ yards per season, and Maclin and Avant both gained yards at a pace of 1300+ per season. Any set backs the offense had were due to an inordinate amount of turnovers led by Bryce Brown.

          Of course, you know more than Chip Kelly. I’m sure he is trying to make the team worse. The bottom line is that it seems like Kelly wanted to get rid of him last year and is going to this year. I presume because he tries to use the whole field and Jackson either won’t learn all the plays/carry out his responsibilities each play or maybe he isn’t bright enough to master what they want to do. Kelly went out of his way to draft smart guys last year, not to reward college students for earning good grades, but because guys have to be smart, disciplined, and quick decision-makers to function properly in the offense they want to run.

          Guys on here act like its sandlot ball and sending Jackson deep takes “the top off of the defense”, but if that is all he does, a defense can neutralize him easily and focus on other things. It is clear that Kelly is looking for guys with more versatility. Kelly has a good track record when it comes to scoring points, so I’m going to trust him way, way, way more than you and feel pretty good about that position.

    • Tom s

      Nah dope. It’s djax demanding a new deal. Chip not Howie acts like a complete idiot. But keep blamin the team. Makes ton of sense hahahahj

  • Will

    It’s gotta be the $ they do not want to pay DeSean 10.5 mil and he won’t restructure his deal. So they would rather cut him just stupid and cheap. Cheap in FA and now being Cheap with arguably one of the top play makers on the Eagles Team!

    • UKEagle99

      Disagree. For this reason… If they cut him this year they free up $6.5m in cap putting them around $22.75m under, which they can carry over to 2015. As it stands if they pay him, have him play 2014 and then cut him because they need to redo Foles et al then they would carry $16.25m and free up a further $8m after the season, $24.25m going in to 2015 and have him play 2014!!

      • Will

        Screw the cap you pay the Man to catch the footballs and score TD’s! DeSean did his part. Now Eagles reneging on a contract both agreed on.

        • UKEagle99

          That’s the point, I doubt they are reneging. My calcs above are off but it still makes no sense this year as they can afford to pay him.

      • anon

        So howies got us in cap trouble? Thought that was his one job…

        • UKEagle99

          No, he hasn’t. You missed the point, or I didn’t make it very clear. Those number are right for 2014 but 2015 would be a little different if we cut him now. We are not in cap trouble and we can afford to pay him per contract, if we have to pay Nick $150m after his superbowl win we could cut DJ then, it makes no sense to do it now. Look for another reason.

  • UKEagle99

    This is all Joe Banners fault.

  • Nfl All Day

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lr7NOECPmdo

    1. This almost has to happen before the owners meeting or Chip’s gonna get hammered by the media. He HAS to sit with them for an hour. After the flack they’re 5th in for drumming this story up, no chance they let him off the hook. From his perspective it’d be better to talk about the trade the just made then deny deny deny.

    2. Kelvin Benjamins pro day video for those who haven’t seen it. He looks like Larry Fitz with bad hands…….

    • jmkrav

      Larry Fitz with bad hands?? That’s like saying Kate upton wit bad t….s

    • jmkrav

      I think he is closer to Mike Williams (USC bust)

    • oreofestar

      This kid has a crazy ceiling and with the right coaching could be Alshon Jeffery by year 2 just like Jeffery

      • RIP illa

        Alshon had/has hands.

        • oreofestar

          I understand he is a work in progress but this guy is a Calvin like freak in terms of athletic ability and size and with a little work could be special, he is very boom or bust

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      I think “bad” is a mischaracterization, in my opinion. The two drops in this video are on throws that aren’t good throws. Should he have caught them? Yeah, but it’s not like these are egregious drops on perfect throws.

  • oreofestar

    I really want Desean back like if Howie said keep Desean or have a key to a room with a naked Nina Agdal tied down I would keep Desean but at this point it is unlikely

    • IAteLunchToday

      Nope. I disagree. I had to google her but nope.

      • Kd711

        I find this hypothetical situation kind of creepy.

        • IAteLunchToday

          Haha, Yep, I reread it after I posted and then said damn. Then I said well, it would still be worth it to untie her so I left my comment up. Although it would still be creepy now that I even stop to think about it so yeah, I just read her name vs Jackson, googled, blood left my brain, didn’t fully comprehend his comment and then made my own comment…

          • Kd711

            Haha, yeah you could save her, and then she would be so grateful that she would bang you.

  • FMWarner

    I’m ill. Unless something big comes out that we’re not aware of, this is the biggest (and most unnecessary) personnel boner the Eagles have made since Jeff Lurie bought the team. Yes, I’m including letting Dawkins walk, which I was fine with.

    How do you let this guy go for a pick that has about a 5% chance of returning equal value? How do you mismanage this situation so badly and let the media dictate the narrative? How do you expect to maintain your offensive production from last year (let alone top it) with a gimp, a WR3 that had a career year, and some rookie?

    It’s a goat rodeo.

    • JofreyRice

      I’m not sure what sickens me more, the people apologizing for the front office’s incompetence and arrogance out of willfully blind allegiance, or the dismal creeps bringing to light long-hidden jealous ill-will.

      • Richard Colton

        80 catches 1300 yards easy to replace. Dont need big plays in a college offense, just matriculate down the field.

        • Warhound

          I see what you did there.

  • Real

    We don’t know anything, it’s all rumor and speculation. But in a post Aaron Hernandez NFL, if a player has (I am not saying he does, but I have seen it speculated) gang affiliations and with all the other bagage associated with Desean (Not talking to coaches, ect) would be prima facie for the Eagles to be running away from this dude.

  • John E. Zang

    I can’t really understand why people are so surprised by all of this. Do you remember what a headache he was when they were losing? He’s just not a team player in the ultimate team sport. For lack of a better term, he’s a punk. The only reason you’d want to keep him around is because you have some sentimental feeling for the player. Do you want a Super Bowl ring or do you want to buy Desean Jackson jerseys in Eagle green? It’s childish. Quit falling for his little dances and big plays here and there when they play sub-par defenses and hope we get good compensation for this player.

    • John E. Zang

      Plus they know he’s reached his plateau as a player. You won’t get more than the stats he put up last year and part of that’s owed to Coach Kelly and his innovative offense; bubble screens etc..He’s one good hit away from IR so he can’t catch balls in traffic and furthermore I’m tired of seeing him run for the sidelines.

    • oreofestar

      So much disgust I am feeling towards your comment…so much

      • Bryan Isacoff

        Word. JEZ clearly knows the nuanced inner-workings of Eagles locker-room, DJax Personally, and failed most if not all of the statistics classes he’s taken.

        • John E. Zang

          I don’t claim to “know” anything. I speculate and watch the game closely and have been a die hard football and eagles fan since I can remember. There’s plenty of media outlets to get a good hunch on the player and what may be going on. I don’t think anyone would tell you he’s a complete receiver with many years ahead of him. You have to design plays to get him in space, and he’s a turnover waiting to happen when throwing him the ball in tight coverage. He’s simply out muscled by most DB’s. Is he a playmaker? Yes. But he’s in a different category. He’s a playmaker with limitations that isn’t worth the money moving forward. I’ve seen it all from him and if he’s not the player Chip can win with, salary cap and on-field contributions alike, then it makes total football sense to trade him in. There’s lots of talent in the draft to replace him for cheap. Then we can sign all of our young core players Foles incIuded. I think Howie and Chip know what they’re doing. I’m certain they aren’t blindly trading him because they don’t like his instagram account and/or how he dresses.

          • G_WallyHunter

            I hate the trade but at the same time I love looking at it from the other angle, you have a great point. Not much else to add to it over here, it is what it is, like I saw on here yesterday, better to trade a player a year early than a year late. If they manage to trade him, we can watch and hope it was a year early.

            That’s the problem, that whole “year early” really does revolve around compensation, big problem here is Desean’s compensation doesn’t look like it will be enough to consider that “year early” a huge benefit… Sucks. That’s thanks to his perceived terrible attitude and all the negative bullcrap that the media throws out there.

          • John E. Zang

            Who knows though, come draft day a lot of thing happen and some teams may want to pull the trigger (hopefully the Raiders). But something tells me this trade is more likely to happen sooner.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yea, very skeptical they can replace the production, but with Sproles, Maclin, and maybe one of those rookies you mentioned, I have faith it can be somewhat replaced.
            Raiders what trade their 5 for Desean and our 22?
            Would that be something to do to lock down Watkins lol, damn, it would be exciting that’s for sure, but unfortunately leaving D out. D picks for 2 3 4 5..

          • John E. Zang

            You also can’t overlook the fact that this draft is so receiver heavy. I’m not sure they’d be so into trading him if there wasn’t this opportunity.They obviously like a good handful of prospects. I’d be happy with Beckam, Benjamin, even Evans, or (it’d be some feat) Watkins. Watkins may be the best player in the draft. He’ll be a real game changer I believe.

  • Bryan Isacoff

    Call it too much bourbon, call it blind faith, call it an almost awkward amount of hope that logic will prevail, but why does this feel like the worlds earliest and most epic April Fools joke still?

    • G_WallyHunter

      Jesus let’s all lobby for this, would be HUGE
      But, how the hell are they supposed to make it last past the owners meetings? They can’t

      • oreofestar

        They would have to keep the joke going an announce an extension on the 1st

  • Chochacho

    Ugh. “Force them to cut him” – just call it the “Turl method”

  • Weapon Y

    Wtf? When did Chip Kelly turn into Joe Banner? “What, a new contract! I’d rather lose more games than deal with your whining! Off to New England with your ass. Those suckers don’t know anything about football!”

  • Amar (India)

    At this point even the Eagles FO must be tired of this. Hopefully they maintain the status quo and work on the upcoming draft.

    • GEAGLE

      Owners meeting is tomorrow, and this shit storm will only intensify, if that is even possible

  • Weapon Y

    I’m readying myself to start leading the Fire Chip chants

    • GEAGLE

      That’s pretty absurd..Don’t see how being left without Desean AND Chip can be a good thing

      • Weapon Y

        Don’t see how keeping a coach who’s going to make decisions based on favoritism over merit and is trying to become a dictator is a good thing. This will end badly.

        • GEAGLE

          For all you know, Chip, Howie, gamble could be all on board with it and right now, we have zero info about anything, so I don’t see the point In starting to call for a coaches head….geez

          • Weapon Y

            You don’t let a coach (or gm) give away one of your best players, potentially to a legit contender like SF or SEA, and then give said coach a slap on the wrist. That is a suicidal move to this team and, if I’m in Jeff Lurie’s shoes, I make sure Chip Kelly knows he’s putting his job on the line by making it. You don’t screw my team and get away with it.

  • Casey

    Getting rid of DJax makes no sense on any level. So he’s a DIVA. He’s still the second best offensive weapon on the team, and I don’t think any of his on-field actions or off-field problems make him a cancer, AKA T. Owens (who did get us to the Superbowl for those with short memories). If they could get a 2nd round draft pick in a WR talent-rich draft, I could accept it. I think we win the division without him, given how bad its is right now, but will be one and done in the playoffs again. Once upon a time a father Ryan got rid of a future hall of famer who had some personal issues and “only scored touchdowns.” Getting rid DJax will go down as the dumbest Eagle’s move since then. I believe Chip is a great offense mind, but great players win games. Keep

  • Kev_H

    I love the idea of a Mike Vick, DeSean Jackson, Rex Ryan Jets. They have a media circus to live up to!

  • Max Lightfoot

    The whole problem here, IMO, is that fans THINK they have Chip all figured out, and in fact THEY DO NOT. He hasn’t given us a whole lot of information about himself – and he likes it that way. Think about it. If he doesn’t give a rat’s what the media thinks/writes (and we saw how he was joking/toying with Jeff about DeSean), how much less does he care what fans think?

    And he loves keeping reporters off balance. Personally, I’m not upset about that – that’s what you get with Chip Kelly.

    We can only hope that he’s dealing with the right inside information to make a good decision for the team. IMO, he’s even more secretive than Andy Reid. But I believe that if Chip Kelly jettisons DeSean, it’s for a good reason. Go Eags!!

    • Kev_H

      I agree with you on the fans misunderstanding Chip, but I think he’s an open book. Two simple examples of things he has stressed: big guys beat up little guys. Dumb guys make more mistakes than smart guys. He has said both of those often enough that’s it’s hard to look at a guy like Jackson and think “he’s a Chip Kelly guy”. Jackson is the originator of one or two of the most stupid mistakes I’ve ever seen an NFL player make and he certainly isn’t big.

  • oreofestar

    HMMM Chip looking at replacements already

  • djack10

    We were only able to get a 7th round pick for Asante two years ago. That was a week before the draft. He was due $10M and agreed to a restructured deal with the Falcons. (Asante is currently out of football…good call Falcons!)

    The Jets trade makes a lot of sense. For the Jets. We cannot go into a season with Maclin, Cooper and a possible rookie draft pick as our three starters. If this was the plan all along, we should have tried to get Edelman or James Jones. I just don’t see how this was something the front office was planning to do.

  • jon h

    What’s interesting is how this all started. The inquiries first came from two teams with not enough cap room, but with historical ties to Eagles’ personnel (Gamble – SF) and Kelly’s former ties to NE and Bellichek). Any conspiracy theories here? Did they start making the calls to gin up the market? I don’t know. It is seeming more likely that DJ is going to leave the team – if we do that, let’s make sure we get something solid in return. Love DJ, but have to trust Chip.

    • GEAGLE

      No…this all started with the Raiders rumored to make an offer for Desean at the owners meeting…that’s the beginning of this mess, and why that hack Kempski wrote his fact less opinion piece that started this crap storm

      • jon h

        Ah, thought I was onto something for a second.

  • GEAGLE

    Chip Kelly said something very telling a few months ago.. “We aren’t just looking at what a guy can do and is willing to do, but also what he is willing to sacrifice”
    ..
    if the eagles have an arsenal of:
    ODB
    Moncrief
    Maclin
    Coop
    Ertz
    Celek
    Shady
    Sproles
    Desean….

    Sacrifices will have to be made!! Guys will have to sacrifice some snaps and some balls coming their way…if Desean was very difficult to work with(I don’t know how true that is, when We were lining up Coop,Celek,Avant and Shady with him…how difficult will he be, when we have so many quality weapons?

    Still no excuse for playing our hand like amatuers

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Maybe they know that with Maclin back (regardless of form), the addition Sproles, and the improvement of Coop and Ertz in the offense, Desean will see less touches and wouldn’t be A) okay with less touches, which speaks to the sacrifices, and B) not worth 10mil/season when he’s not going to consistently put up 80/1300/9. Just a thought. I know the masses on here will disagree because DJ is a diety around here. But such a scenario is far from impossible.

      • GEAGLE

        That’s the only thing that makes any sense to me…
        ..
        Unless this was all started by his agent, which I took a lot of crap for suggesting this past tuesday

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          I saw, and that also, is not out of the realm of possibilities… And to add what to what I said, it’s still no excuse for the piss poor handling by the FO.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup. Whatever the reason is, it’s no damn excuse for letting your media completely devalue the one asset you are willing to trade which can bring back some value, to the point where every GM is laughing at us waiting for us to cut him

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            The only thing I say about that is the fact that because we’ve said nothing, we don’t know what the value is. The media reporting thus far is all over the place. I can’t say every GM is laughing because it’s impossible to tell. Maybe we get some value for a 10mil/season contract. Who knows? The handling appears botched to us, but we need to see what ends up happening before start really casting stones. Doesn’t look good, thus far, though.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol. Scroll up…I just wrote the same thing :)

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I just saw it haha.

          • GEAGLE

            Great minds, think….. Lol
            ..
            More like desperate minds think alike :)

          • DharmaBum

            I’m with ya, there. I wrote something along those lines last night. Beyond the football and money considerations, there has to be something going on that we don’t know about. I just have to hope that as this thing gets resolved, or maybe soon after, we’ll get some clarity on the situation.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            No, but it’s almost all money. Go to the salary cap calculator on overthecap.com. We have 16.25 right now and next year’s cap is -4.8 assuming 140. And we haven’t paid rookies yet. So that 16.2 goes to 10ish, and that -4.8 goes to -11. Even if it’s a cap of 145, we’re still -6. You move/cut Desean now, which is pretty much inevitable at this point, we jump to 22mil before rookies, and next year’s -4.8 jumps to about +7 before rollover. And that’s before paying rookies. So subtract out the 6 this year, we have 16 to rollover, and that 6 this year equals about 6.5 next year, so we rollover 16 into next year’s 0 cap room (after rookie deals) before we restructure guys and move on from others, to free up more money to pay Foles et. al.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol cap number posts just add to my 3day Desean Migrain, but I get the point “I was told there would be no math on this blog” :)

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Well it was done for you, so you just had to follow it lol. Seriously, this is 90% money. Even restructuring/renegotiating his deal hurts next year’s ability to pay people. And the perceived unwillingness to take less just makes him all the more expendable to the FO.

          • GEAGLE

            How do next years rumored cap increased factor into out financial situation?
            ..
            Here’s why the money angles bother me. Teams won’t look at it as “we are paying this individual player X amount of dollars”..they look at it as how much they are allocating to that players position as a whole…so if we are simply spending too much money on the WR situation, why did we bring back Coop and Mac? Wouldn’t it make more sense to not pay them, and replace them with cheaper draft pics, then giving Desean the Axe?

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Howie knew something had to happen with Desean going into the offseason, I’d think, otherwise he wouldn’t have brought them both back. Either renegotiate to a lower number or trade. Only thing that makes sense…… Part of it’s allocation of resources, but a large part of it really seems to be about cap this year and next. Unwillingness of Desean to take less makes the decision easier for the FO…. OTC used cap projection of 140, which is very conservative. Probably 145ish, I’d think. Which helps, but surely isn’t solving the situation we’re in right now.

          • GEAGLE

            Makes sense..plausible for sure

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I mean, I’m sure there’s more to it, but from everything I can tell says it’s mostly cap related. There’s gotta be something else that is making it seem so easy for the FO to move on and get little to nothing in return.

          • anon

            Wonder if he won’t restructure bc of the trade. Why help them trade him.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I wouldn’t agree to restructure to facilitate a trade either, but I meant restructure to stay, get him more guaranteed $ up front. A restructure/renegotiation to stay make it almost impossible to trade this year, or even next, because of the additional dead money

          • GEAGLE

            Bet you, that you change your stance when we make it clear to you, that you ain’t getting another penny out of us til September, but that there are teams willing to give you a new deal RIGHT NOW and that we are just waiting for you to help facilitate that trade that gets you that new contract…or you can not see a penny til we pay you your exsisting salary in September. Hope you been managing your money Pal…

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I think I get what you’re saying, but I don’t believe we have that leverage to hold on to him until a trade in September, if this whole thing is because of money. We’d have started to pay him at that point and the benefit in rollover is lost considerably.

          • GEAGLE

            Why can’t we hold into him til August if we don’t have to pay him til September?

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Not sure the rules on when they pay, but I’d have to imagine that OTAs, mini-camps, and training camps don’t come free of charge for the players.

            EDIT: Not to mention, why are you even going to waste a roster spot for camps on a guy you don’t want there/trying to get rid of. If he wasn’t really a locker room cancer prior to this, you don’t think after this circus he would be?

          • anon

            They got Maclin and sproles to replace desean, that’s why they did that trade.

          • anon

            Could say the same about a couple contracts but all of those 2 year Howie deals are meant to be restructured or so we ytell ourselves when we see them.

        • Will

          The only thing that makes sense is DJax wants more $ and the Eagles want him to restructure for less. So the Eagles just want to cut ties with a me first player regardless of his football talent.

          • GEAGLE

            Who cares about money when you are rolling over 15mil in cap?

          • Will

            Getting just a 3rd round pick for DJax makes little sense as well or cutting him all together.

          • GEAGLE

            Not much makes sense right now….

            Let me say this, I know we are all losing our minds, and it looks really bad right now, but I would be pretty surprised if in deed we played our hand as poorly as it seems right now…wouldn’t be surprised if Howie has a wildcard up his sleeve(like a worst case scenario deal already in place for him) that we aren’t seeing and factoring into this shitstorm…I know people hate and don’t trust Howie, but I think he is much smarter then this, and I have a feeling he has something up his sleeve that we aren’t accounting for…..ATleast I hope

          • Will

            At least trade him for a high quality OLB….

          • GEAGLE

            Quality OLB will be more valuable then Desean…doubt that happens, especially since the team giving up a quality OLB will also most likely have to take a cap hit, AND pay Desean a new deal

          • Will

            If the Eagles can’t get fair trade value for DeSean why not just keep him? From all reports DeSean hasn’t really done anything to warrant this kind of treatment not that we know all the facts…

          • GEAGLE

            That what I said..you make the situation very clear to him:
            1) You don’t get a juicy new deal, and some schmuck team doesn’t get a probowl WR in his prime, coming off his best year, until the eagles get some damn value in return.

            2) if we are willing to cut and trade you, just imagine how easily we would be willing to suspend you, if you don’t fall in line
            ..
            3) there are a few teams out there willing to give you a new deal..it’s in your best interest to play the good soldier long enough to get a team give is value. So you and your agent can go and enjoy that new deal
            ..
            And just end up keeping him long enough for someone to get desperate. Dude is a quality weapon who can help shift the balance of power in some closely contested division…there are plenty of coaches and GMs out there who are on the hot seat

          • GEAGLE

            Hold onto Desean long enough and one of those coaches/GMs trying to save their job will decide that they don’t have the luxury to wait for a draft pick to develop and come save their job,and end up parting with that draft pick for immediate upgrade like Desean in a desperation attempt to save their job…Rex Ryan comes to mind

          • anon

            Draft is too deep at wr this year maybe if he played another position but it’s like the worst year to try and trade him

          • GEAGLE

            Doesn’t mean you definitely can’t get a 2015 draft pick for him in July…btw, if you haven’t noticed, this is a Win NOW league with plenty of coaches and GMs who are on the hot seat. All it takes is one to decide they can’t wait for some draft pick to develop and save their job….we don’t owe him any Roster or offseason bonus’s…we don’t owe him a penny until September. There is no reason why we have to be strong armed into cutting him right now

          • Will

            What kind of deal even if it’s a rumor?

          • GEAGLE

            The compensation wasn’t known…as in, I literally don’t have a clue who the team is or what the compensation was rumored to be…that is a rumor that is circling inside the Novacare complex….about 6 hours after I heard it, some schmuck Unknown colts blog reported the same exact thing…grain of salt it, but the person I heard it from has always been pretty reliable to me..but He didn’t know of it for sure, just something that secratries and janitors around the Novacare complex are gossiping about…It didn’t comes from anyone who works in the personel department

          • Will

            I hope they send DJax to the Raiders for some high quality picks…DeSean would really miss Philly after landing in that circus…

          • GEAGLE

            Raiders would be my best guess if we already have something up our sleeve…they have been pretty quiet on the Desean front since being rumored as a possibility, where as you actually here intel coming from teams like the jets! that they are interested but not at that price. raiders rumor at the combine started this mess, and since then the raiders have flown under the radar in this matter…haven’t heard them deny interest, haven’t heard anything from the raiders since…

          • GEAGLE

            I’d try and package Barkley with Desean and see if Oaklands full retard GM bites and brings the Cali boys home…then I’d dangle both to the browns who have plenty of picks in a QB draft that is starting to look like hot trash

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            We have 16 in space right now, so after paying rookies which will be roughly 6, we have 10 to rollover, which means we won’t have much room to start next year with.

          • GEAGLE

            We need that money for after next season ends…we could easily throw some more of that to Desean this year(just one year bonus), and still have that money free up after the season…

      • Token

        Id think Chip really likes Maclin.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Maybe. Don’t know. I know he’ll make the most out of whatever he has, though. My post below breaks it down as to why this is almost all dollars, since it makes little sense otherwise.

          • Richard Colton

            cents

  • Coatesvillain

    Question: Is Michael Vick the quickest player to ever tamper after signing with a new team? lol

  • Coatesvillain

    I don’t want Jackson traded, and this whole ordeal is maddening. What’s more frustrating is how badly the Eagles have handled the issue. Even if they wanted to get rid of Jackson they shouldn’t have stayed silent. The move should have been to pay lip service to how he’s a valuable part of the team and he’ll be a big part going forward.

    Instead they stayed quiet and the noise got louder and then leaks got out. Now teams know that they want to get rid of Jackson and his value is much lower than it would have been otherwise. People can hang it on cap number or whatever but I don’t believe it for a second.

    I wouldn’t have been happy with them trading Jackson under any circumstance but this calamity could have been avoided.

  • GEAGLE

    I find it interesting that I’m hearing ATleast rumors associated with the jets,Niners,Seahawks,panthers…all of which have been rumored to take the stance that they are interested but not at his current contract, whether it’s because they can’t afford it under their cap, or simply don’t think he is worth it, or already knowing that Desean isn’t happy with his exsisting contract

    But why am I hearing NOTHING about the Raiders? I’m not hearing they aren’t interested. I’m not hearing that they are interested but not at his current price, why are they flying so under the radar, and nothing is even rumored any more about them, when this entire thing started with them rumored to make an offer for Djax at the combine?

    • OregonDucker

      Tommy suggested at Iggles Blitz that maybe the DJax situation is like the one with Chris Carter. Could be that after due diligence (background checks), the Raiders concluded the risk/reward was not there. All of this is speculation, but there has to be a heavy component to this situation – I cannot and will not believe it is locker room culture or moneyball.

      • GEAGLE

        Bullshit!!! the moment we cut him, there will be a nice market for him…not that he definitely doesn’t have something crazy that we don’t know about, Bullshit that everyone knows it and no one is interested…we cut him today, I assume a bidding war would instantly Errupt…

        • OregonDucker

          Perhaps, but there was a market for Chris Carter too.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m not saying WE don’t know something…I’m saying, I doubt all the other teams know this “something” that no media member has uncovered yet

          • OregonDucker

            I’m saying “maybe” the Raiders DO know something. With their band of misfits, I’ve always thought they were “connected” .

          • GEAGLE

            Those idiots are lucky if they know their right hand from their left, doubt they know something major that no reporter has yet uncovered

          • OregonDucker

            Ok, I’ll grant you they can’t grab their own ass with both hands but that’s football. When it comes to drugs and criminality, I’ve always thought they knew things – maybe this is just my own personal West Coast bias.

          • GEAGLE

            Other then a few rap lyrics, there is nothing in Desean past or his families to suggest he is a criminal…his dad was the friggin “Joe Jackson” of football lol

          • GEAGLE

            Believe it or not, I don’t believe Desean to be this master criminal some are speculating about..his family has always been hands on, committed and focused on his football career. His older brother really helped bring us the dialed in Desean we all enjoyed this year….I’d be pretty surprised if we find out that such a dedicated football family, has been bankrolling some criminal organization during Deseans most focused season in years….I don’t buy it, but wtf do I know…

  • GEAGLE

    Id try and dangle Barkley and Desean to the Browns new GM…offer to send the raiders the same two Cali boys

    • Token

      I think the market for Jackson is extremely small.

  • GEAGLE

    The one smidget of hope we have is that Desean doesn’t have any offseason bonus’s or anything in his contract, so we don’t have to pay Desean a penny until September, which means we don’t have to be strong armed into cutting him right now, and we can simply hold him hostage til some team gets desperate enough to give something up for him….ATleast we have some time on our side

  • JofreyRice

    This was awesome. 4th quarter of a tie game against the hated Dallas Cowboys. And he had tweaked his ankle earlier.

    • GEAGLE

      What the hell did I do to you, that you want to hurt me like this? :)

      • JofreyRice

        I know some on here are happy to see him go, but he deserves a proper eulogy. Guy produced some of the most exciting moments I can remember. Had me literally jumping up and down screaming.

        • GEAGLE

          I say this all the time…”I waited my entire life for us to draft a WR like him”….this is friggin SAD!!!
          ..
          Keep posting ish like that and you will make Oreo slit his wrists

        • Richard Colton

          Some people would rather lose with Jason Avant than win with DeSean Jackson. Hey – you can pick your friends and family; we were born Eagles fans.

  • Tom w

    Couple national sources reporting there is way more internally to the djax story then is being reported … Waiting for the other shoe to drop. No other explanation why eagles would be prepared to cut him if there is no legit trade market

    • Richard Colton

      should do wonders for his trade value. I hate this.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        No one likes it.

    • DharmaBum

      This is kind of the conundrum here. I’m almost convinced that the Eagles know, or have learned, something about Jackson that makes them want to drop him like a hot potato. I speculated last night that it could have something to do with the rather sketchy robbery at his house, or any number of things in his personal life. The thing is, if we know something and wanna be rid of him, then how do we trade him without the other team knowing what we know? I mean, we could just hold back the info, but that would play VERY badly league-wide, once it all came out. Which, of course, makes me question the whole theory in the first place, lol. Still, I am completely convinced that the other shoe has yet to drop. All we can hope is that when it does, we’ll all have that “Eureka!” moment where we all say, “Ahhh, so THAT’S why…”.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      links?

  • JofreyRice

    4th quarter of NFC Championship game we should have won. 2nd round rookie that “couldn’t get off press coverage” coming through in a big spot for the franchise. I always liked the way he started high stepping, before he had even really secured it, in spite of myself.

    • G_WallyHunter

      is it the gang signs? the crip signs?
      Damn, please you’re putting me through misery with these vids

      • GEAGLE

        Right…not sure why we deserve this torture…and videos of him shredding our brand new safety? That’s just a low blow…is this your football version of the sadistic “prince Joeffry”?? I joke I joke. I kid I kid……

        ATleast I got wiggins vs! Stanford and Shogun and Henderson beating each other’s skulls in to an almost brain damaged state to help me get thru this not so fun day, Sunday…

        • G_WallyHunter

          upvote for GoT reference as it is fast approaching..
          This is a sick twisted joke though, just as King Joffery would do
          what u think?
          there’s a bunch of internal crap we don’t know?
          the gang affiliations? more to all of it.. that maybe other clubs are catching on to as well
          Does Desean hang out with Hernandez?
          come on we NEED INFO!!
          Keeping us in the dark for days

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t believe he is the criminal mastermind many are speculating him to be..his dad was the Joe Jackson of football, his family has always been very hands on, focused on his football career..his brother really helped Desean grow up and deliver us the “Dialed in” Desean we all enjoyed this past year….I need more then a few rap lyrics to believe he is some criminal…

            My best guess is we plan on having so many quality weapons that we don’t feel like dealing with distractions and we won’t need his decoy value to make this offense work, like we needed it this year when we were playing with average weapons like Avant and Celek…

            Chip said “It’s not just about what a player can do, it’s also about what a player will sacrifice”…
            ..
            That’s my best guess, doesn’t mean I Agee with it, or I’m happy if that turns out to prove true

          • DharmaBum

            I don’t think he’s a criminal mastermind, either, but the fact that he flashes obvious gang signs in almost every picture on his Instagram cannot be a good thing.

            http://instagram.com/p/l1QM4qONjG/

            http://instagram.com/p/laJXDHuNlm/

            http://instagram.com/p/lT1YMAuNmW/

          • G_WallyHunter

            I imagine this coupled with what Geagle said makes up for a big case (in Chip’s eyes) to get rid of him..

          • GEAGLE

            While I’d prefer he didn’t, In this day and age I have heard tons of athletes like Paul Pierce accused of it, who have never broken a crime or had anything negative reported on him for his entire career….

          • DharmaBum

            I’m kinda the same way — I don’t see it as an indictment of criminal activity. But I do see it as a pretty good indicator of a generally moronic, turd-ish, and immature mentality.

          • GEAGLE

            Sounds about right…like when everyone hated Iversons tattoos and braids, it eventually became the norm with pro athletes. I think of the hand sign crap as the same thing…dumb ish by ignorant athletes that don’t even realize WTF they are doing….I would put clauses in every millionaires contact..you don’t get to throw up gang signs if you make millions you stupid prick

          • DharmaBum
          • RIP illa

            Either Djax is very confused about his gang signs (since all 3 pix have have different ones) or he’s claiming every set in Cali!!!

          • DharmaBum

            I hear ya, although I’ve done a little digging and there are apparently several different Crips signs. There’s a pic in the story I posted below that show a bunch of crips showing different signs. They’re from the Rolling 60’s Neighborhood Crips, which some say DeSean has shouted out in plenty of tweets and Instgram pics, by including the word “Rollin'”.

            I mean, who knows, but it sure seems like HE thinks he’s in their crew…whether that means he is or not, it’s anyone’s guess

          • RIP illa

            Yeah I know, I read that article awhile ago. Your last lines are exactly what I think.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Winter is coming….for Desean.

          • GEAGLE

            Vala Mogulis…all men must die”
            .,
            Although I prefer watching Desean go into full blown “Dracaris” and set defenses on fire!!!
            .l
            I loved the Titans bastard, sucks he only lasted in an episode or two..But Bron is awesome!

        • JofreyRice

          I just started watching that show. Still in the first season. Bad luck that a handle I picked years ago is an incest born creep like that kid.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahaha no worries. Great show. I would LOVE to have two seasons worth of episodes I haven’t seen yet. If you are into season one, you will be addicted in No Time…enjoy! Better catch up, because season 4 is going to be crazy.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            They’re on On Demand right now.

          • GEAGLE

            I know, I watched each season like 3 times already…two months before a new season starts, I go back and re watch all the previous seasons again…I hate science fiction, I have never seen: Star Wars, star trek(don’t even know the difference between the two). Never seen lords of the rings, Harry potter, hobbit…I always been more of the “Wire” “sopranos” “sons of anarchy” “breaking bad” type…Imagine how great of a show GofT has to be to make someone like me think it’s better then every show I listed that I loved….
            ..
            It’s fantastic

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I’m mostly with you, but LOTR and the Hobbit are good movies. Never got into HP.

          • GEAGLE

            Maybe…I just never gave them any chance. I literally know nothing about any of them…for all I know I might love them..

            Sort of how I have never tried to throw a baseball or hit a ball with a bat…for all I know I could be the next babe Ruth and Roy Halladay rolled into one super mega baseball talent :)

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Maybe…. good thing I’m a rational person :)

          • G_WallyHunter

            What Geagle said, kind of envious you’re only in season 1, season one is rather slow as the character development is so intense and plot development takes a front seat, Season 4 starts April 6th, would be hard to catch up by then unless you have a marathon day or two..

          • GEAGLE

            Right…what I would give to have access to like 30 episodes I haven’t seen yet…only regret is that we didn’t get another season of Ned Stark…should have ATleast kept him for two seasons, although I get that his death had to set the tone for the entire shows premise that no ones favorite Charecter is safe…

          • DharmaBum

            Is GoT really that good? I liked Lord of the Rings and all, but I’m definitely not a Dungeons and Dragons kinda guy, lol. I actually tried to start watching GoT once, and couldn’t get through the first episode. The main problem was, I could understand a word of what they were saying. Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem with Olde English or Shakespeare-type language…I have read plenty of that kind of thing. But they seemed to talk so quiet or sometimes, outright mumble the words so badly, that I just couldn’t make it out. I have HBOGO, so maybe I’ll give it another shot, but only if I know it’s REALLY worth it…

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Turn up the volume. Great show. I watched the 1st episode when it premiered and turned it off. Heard so many great things about it that I had to watch, so I went back and did. I loved it.

          • GEAGLE

            Same..I watched the first episode and couldn’t even stay engaged….then rolled a few spiffs and really gave the first few episode a chance, and I’m now a full blown addict…I don’t care how many seasons they make, before the next season starts every single year, I will go back and watch every episode for like the 7th time…amazing show.

          • DharmaBum

            Yeah, maybe I’ll watch it with headphones on my computer with HBOGO. It really had nothing to do with the language, but the f**kin’ mumbling. I remember rewinding one exchange like 6 times, and not being able to make out what they were saying. I’ll try again.

          • G_WallyHunter

            It’s really not what people think, that’s what everyone who hasn’t checked it out says “they aren’t into the dragons and magic crap”, it’s hardly that.
            The acting is so good and plot and directing and production is SO GOOD that by the end of season 1 its a great show.
            Season 1 was kinda slow, probably took me like 6 or 7 episodes to really get an idea of what the hell was going on, so many different inter-twining families and plot-lines and what not..

          • JofreyRice

            my bro-in law kept trying to tell me to watch this, and he was pretty much echoing exactly what you’re saying. The fantasy stuff is minimal. Much more about the intrigue/power plays surrounding the characters.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Booom, precisely, your bro in-law hits it on the head of the nail yes. The plot just sucks you in like a vortex, once season 1 is done and you have a lay-of-the-land as far as families go, it is unreal after that..
            There’s actually hardly any magical fantasy stuff, one crazy witch who can do some crazy things, and some dragons that breathe fire that you don’t even get to see for a long time..
            Other than that, the acting and power plays are a hell of a lot of fun..

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Watched a few mid season episodes here and there never started from the beginning couldn’t really follow. My take was a lot of talking not a lot of action but the dragons were actually cool

          • G_WallyHunter

            you and thousands others have done that, the first season does that to you. Episode 5 to 8 I was confused as $#I^ as to the plot and families and all that crap… but by end of season 1 you’re tuned in and you get all the connections and power plays and blah blah blah… but don’t get me wrong I hear that..
            Khaleesi is the greatest in the show
            A Dime and she’s just BOSS
            Mother of DRAGONS

          • GEAGLE

            Dude.im soooo not the type you would ever think would enjoy that show(or ATleast your impressions of it)…but I promise you if you sit down and watch the first 3 episodes, you will be a full blown addict…I honestly view it as the best show ever made, and if I list my other top shows, Me loving G of T would make no sense to you….but yes, it’s THAT GOOD!!! I can’t strongly recommend it enough

          • DharmaBum

            Aaight, I’ll give it a shot. “Best show ever made” is a bold statement, my friend. We’ll see. Personally, my top 3 are BB, The Wire, and lately, House of Cards. If GoT is even in the same league, I’ll be very happy. I need something to get into while I wait for Boardwalk Empire to start back up.

          • GEAGLE

            Wire, BB and boardwalk empire are only really really high on my all time list….but if they are airing a new episode of the wire, BB, Boardwalk E, Sopranos tonight, it’s not even a question that I would watch the new episode of G of T first…you will get it soon..believe that
            ..
            I know nothing about house of cards yet…

            Just got done watching Black Sails (the Starz pirate show)..

          • DharmaBum

            I noticed you left out House of Cards. If you haven’t watched that yet, do yourself a favor. The first season had me so addicted that when season two started streaming, I binge-watched it in two days. What a crazy amazing show. Check it out…you’ll be thanking ME! LOL

          • GEAGLE

            I’ll watch the first 3 episodes, you watch first 3 of G of T…deal?

          • DharmaBum

            Absolutely. Not that I think it will take you many episodes of HoC to get into it, but be aware that from the first episode of season 1, until the last episode of season 2, it’s a steady trajectory up, up, up…there’s not a bum episode or boring moment to be seen. As far as building intensity, it might rule the roost among dramas.

          • GEAGLE

            What the hell is it about? Politics? cards? I literally know NOTHING about it…..but I do love me House of lies(don cheadle show) I laugh my ass off at that..

          • DharmaBum

            Kevin Spacey plays the House Majority Leader who, in the first episode, has a promise from the new Prez reneged upon (the Sec of State post). He (and his equally ruthless wife, a gorgeous Robin Wright) set about to destroy the Prez and grab as much power as he can for himself. It’s extremely well written, and acted, and it’s a great look at how Washington politics work. I’m generally no fan of in-depth political thrillers, but this show (and Spacey) are off the chain! Seriously, it’s unbelievably good.

          • DharmaBum

            Btw, I forgot to mention, it’s a Netflix show…only available to subscribers. If you’re not, but do the free trial streaming subscription, which will give you a month to watch both seasons. I have a feeling, anyway, that you’ll only need a week or two at the most, lol

          • GEAGLE

            Thanks…yeah I always hear good about it…I’ll def check it out.. Once I spark a doobie I can watch paint dry lol
            ..
            How many seasons have there been already? I’ll just download a torrent of every season real quick

          • DharmaBum

            Two seasons so far. Since it’s a Netflix series, each season was released in its entirety, all at once. Should be out there in torrentland.

          • Warhound

            House of Cards is great!
            Check out “I Claudius”; it’s on you-tube.

          • Michael Myers

            ok just saw this…lol…

          • Michael Myers

            deadwood kicks too

          • G_WallyHunter

            You won’t be disappointed, really, acting us unparalleled and the production is crazy..

          • Michael Myers

            its good but….breaking bad, the wire,,,,

          • DharmaBum

            My thoughts too, but I’m gonna give it a shot.

          • GEAGLE

            Just watch it man…. I promise you will thank us. I honestly don’t think it’s possible not to love it once you really know what’s going on…

          • G_WallyHunter

            dude don’t throw out spoilers when he just said he’s in season 1, COME ON MAN!!! (boomer voice)

          • GEAGLE

            Thought Joeffry said he just finished season 1…my bad.
            ….
            I def won’t give out season 4 spoilers…

          • Warhound

            The imp is the best character in the books and the show; it’s great that they got a worthy actor for the role.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Midget?

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah..tiny Tyrion Lannister

          • G_WallyHunter

            He’s one of my favourite actors and characters yea, he’s smarter than everyone else it’s hilarious and just uses his wit to get what he wants..

          • G_WallyHunter

            lol nope said he’s still in first season…. oh well

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I knocked out the first three seasons of that show in 55hrs from this past monday evening through wednesday night. Great show. Can’t wait for season four.

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, once you meet all the characters, and get familiar with the storylines, you’re hooked.

          • G_WallyHunter

            HAHA that sounds like me when I discovered it a year ago, banged out 2 seasons in like 2 days

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Yup, off work recovering from surgery. Let’s just say time has been on my side.

    • RIP illa

      What’s your problem dude??? We all know Djax disappears in big games!!! It’s not even a question, just look at his stat line and disregard the when, where, and how he got his touches!!! Derp Derp Derp!!! :-)

  • JofreyRice

    I would have been more impressed with this if he had broken the tackles instead of just blowing by every defender on the field. I’m sure we will be able to get 2 or 3 of these guys in the draft.

    • G_WallyHunter

      hey if you can break a tackle then it should be broken, running past them is being a little injury-prone female dog

    • Michael Myers

      looks like me runnin from the cops…

      • Michael Myers

        just add a full second to everyone’s 40

  • JofreyRice

    Forgot this…totally destroyed the cornerback with a juke in the open field, and then accelerated past Malcolm Jenkins for the TD.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Jeeze lol, this blows

      Did I see someone say Chip HAS to spend an hour with the media at the owner’s meeting? Do any other FO ppl like Howie have to talk too?

      • GEAGLE

        Not certain, but I do think Howie has to speak

        • G_WallyHunter

          Let’s hope they both have to stand up there for an hour for Chip and at least a half hour for Howie and the reporters can bombard them with questions pertaining only to Desean Jackson…
          Can’t wait to see their faces while responding..

          • DharmaBum

            I know that prior to the combine, there was a schedule released, detailing what time each coach/GM was due to speak. Does anyone know if such a schedule for this week has surfaced? Those are two media sessions I don not want to miss…

          • Tom w

            Don’t think they really gonna sweat things they can’t control. Team will move on and not miss a beat

          • G_WallyHunter

            not about sweating things they can’t control, I’m sure they’ll move on unphased, I just want to see what they have to say, some sort of explanation or details why they dropped the ball so bad on this one

          • Maggie

            Drop the ball? They chose not to bare their souls about the inner workings of their business. They have commented on nothing except done deals. Why should they conduct their business any differently for one employee? That’s the way any business manager would view things.

          • G_WallyHunter

            it’s about dropping the ball on addressing it. Has nothing to do with revealing what they are or aren’t doing inside the Novacare

          • GEAGLE

            You are really really loving the Kool aid these days man

    • Token

      I think its safe to say your pretty upset about this. In the grand scheme of everything does this matter really? Were they contenders and now without Jackson are no longer contenders? Just think of it that way. The Eagles are always gonna be sitting at the kiddy table in the NFL, none of this really means anything. Just more of the same.

      • JofreyRice

        Yeah, I’m upset about it. It’s senseless. Even if you think the guy is not a top 10 receiver, the stuff he does is not as easily replaceable as everyone thinks. The offense is better with him on it.

        You could be right in that dour prediction, but I’m still holding out hope. I must be nuts.

        • Token

          Our current situation is hoping a bunch of guys that have only flashed somehow take 2 or 3 steps forward on defense and make that a average unit.

          On offense we are hoping Foles wasnt a fluke and that Chips offense wont be bogged down by DCs with more film to watch and one less weapon.

          O and hoping Howie can for once find some legit difference makers in the draft.

          I dont see how its looking too bright.

          They had a 2 year open window in front of them and chose not to go for it. Thats all you need to know about the Eagles true goals.

          • Richard Colton

            No big $$$ free agents left. Eagles have plenty of cap room to pay Jackson as well as their draft picks. What do you gain by cutting DeSean?

            How about this? Since the $$$ appears to be part of this, DeSean and Dennis Kelly even up for Mike Wallace and Dion Jordan.

          • GEAGLE

            That’s what I don’t get…other then draft picks, we ain’t spending any more money. We need money NEXT offseason..so if we can’t get value at him, why not throw him a bonus, so he can be happy long enough to rebuild his value, but if we give him that bonus, they have to restructure to help facilitate a trade…at the end of the day, I’d rather see extra cash go in Jackson’s bank account than Lurie’s…
            ..
            I simply think Chip doesn’t think Desean will make the neccessary sacrifices players have to make for the good of the team, needed to win a SB…makes more sense to me, then money or Being the next Aaron hernandez

          • Token

            The Eagles could be realistically looking at like 40 mil in cap room next year before resigning some guys.

  • LookinAtMyGucci
    • GEAGLE

      Can you just give me some quick Cliff notes. I refuse to click on that site. I view them as the local version of Ashley Fox…although they are probably somewhat what more credible now that Brandon Gowton has some pull, and worthless hacks Mike Kaye! and “Jason B” are less involved…the same Jason B who argued for days that Howie Roseman NEVER goes on recruiting trips lol….I had to post a video where Howie talks about how he is always on the road, recruiting from like October to December to shut his bitch ass up!

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Basically surmises that Maclin will work very well in this offense as he played in the spread in college, is smarter than the average receiver based on his 25 on the wonderlic, which DJ happened to skip, and the Desean’s stats were inflated by Chip’s use of him, that his numbers, while making him “top 10″ were comparable to ever receiver ranking roughly 7-16. I don’t take it as gospel, but it has some fair points.

        • G_WallyHunter

          exactly “don’t take it as gospel, but has some fair points.”
          All it is, and they are fair points that make the inevitable a little more comforting.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        And the article is by some dude Mark Saltveit. Never heard of him.

        • Kd711

          He’s the “Tao of Chip Kelly” guy.

          • Brian

            Great read.

        • GEAGLE

          Oh ok…he actually isn’t bad. I don’t agree with everything he writes, but he isn’t some clueless blow hard…he is worth reading. Tommy let’s him write articles on Blitz every once and a while and he comments on blitz frequently….

        • Michael Myers

          writer from oregon ducks…smart guy

    • G_WallyHunter

      Great article, whether it has merit or not it makes all of us feel better because none of us truly know what kind of hole (if any) this will leave in the offense, so this is nice speculation with numbers to back it up..

    • Tom w

      Nice article. Definitely see a giant bump in maclins production, like foles McCoy djax and cooper got w chip at the healm, I forgot how less effective djax was w foles and how he disappeared at the end of the year when we needed him most. Highlights from 2008 are great, and I will never forget some of his amazing plays, but I don’t think the loss will be that great in the grand scheme of things. Hope he gets his life in order and can continue playing well somewhere

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Yeah, I think Maclin will be fine so long as he’s healthy. Having the last year off should help his body be healed up and clearly the FO thinks his ACL will be fine. I’m curious to see what happens. I don’t think we’re in such bad shape without him as others.

  • Neanderthal

    The only way this trading of Desean makes any sense is if his agent has been backdooring them for more guaranteed money and they are afraid of hold out. For this year, at corrent salary and what he brings to offence, it makes no sense at all.

    • Maggie

      He’s being traded for draft picks. Looking toward the future, not the past.

      • Neanderthal

        Last time I checked, this coming year is the future, not the past.

        • Michael Myers

          are you sure? Seen Primer? Could be a circular disk as well..

          • Neanderthal

            Ha! Definition of insanity. …………

  • GEAGLE

    If Stanford eliminates Kansas before I get to see Embiid play in this tournament I’m going to be sick

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    An interesting take on the character aspect of the discussion: http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/03/is-desean-jackson-throwing-up-gang-signs-a-big-deal/

    • G_WallyHunter

      very interesting, thanks
      I think this kinda hints that this “problem” with Djax is a lot bigger than any of us know and they aren’t letting any of us know.
      I really can’t wait to see where it goes, I’m not one to personally stress over some punk millionaire football player so I usually find it fun sitting back and enjoying the fireworks with situations like these. National sports are national sports, they’re there as a distraction, they’re there to suck people in, don’t fall for it. It’s easier on life to simply sit back and let it happen because nothing any of us do or say about it will change what happens, so let’s see what the Eagles get for him (if anything at this point).

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Definitely not stressing. I celebrate all Eagles TDs the same… Yeah, even reading this little piece, if I’m a GM that sees it, I’m not really going to be open to trading picks to pay this guy more money than he knows how to handle. This is a case where your guys that perform the due diligence/background check really earn their money.

    • Michael Myers

      I don’t know DeSean personally but he has done enough punk sht to piss me off since like his second season. He is a great talent. I’d like to see him in Midnight Green this year.
      If he’s not, I have to assume that he’s more of a punk than i thought. A big enough ass to not be on this team. Despite his talent, if chip hits the eject button on Jackson, I’m with chip

  • Kd711

    Woody confirms the Jets are looking to trade for DeSean Jackson. By name.— Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) March 23, 2014

    • Kd711

      Woody: "I don't want to be patient. I want to do it [win] now."— Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) March 23, 2014

      • Kd711
      • GEAGLE

        Thank you Woody. We needed that right now…let the bidding begin. I was worried that with Irsay in rehab and us not doing business with Snyder or Jerry, that it be tough to find a shmuck like you..but here comes good OL Woody coming to save the day!!!!! YAY!!!
        ..
        You schmucks have a shot at the great Desean Jackson…are Yous really going to let Woody make out like a bandit? Going once, going twice….lol I know McKenzie and the raiders will have to throw their hat in the ring now. Anyone else? KC fat man? Carolina? Bellicek?

    • GEAGLE

      Yup..he is already speaking openly about this and he just arrived at the owners meeting. The notion that we would have to cut him, because their isn’t a single impatient shmuck out there in This win now league where 10 coaches and GMs get fired at the end of this league year is insanity….I warn, Howie has an ace up his sleeve..just because we won’t acknowledge a media shitstorm and Desean passive agressive twitter tantrum, doesn’t mean we are the brainless suckers people are painting us to be right now…..and if I’m wrong, it’s an epic BOTCH JOB, but the past two years of intel suggest Howie is smarter then that….if you can’t get value for Desean, you are a simpleton!!!
      ..
      And if the Jets owner is speaking publically about Desean all day, then the theory that league circles all know he is a master criminal are bullshit!
      .,,
      Im not mad about trading Desean. I’m mad about not being compensated for it…..let’s see how it plays out before acting like the sheep the media is counting on us being and if we don’t get the proper value for the player, then I’ll be happy to string Howie up myself

  • anon

    I guess people can stop mocking defense in the first round

  • DharmaBum

    At this point, after all the whining, gang sign BS, refusal to restructure, etc., my plan, if I were Howie/Chip would be this:

    Tell DeSean and his agent, Joel Segal, that they are never going to get a new or restructured deal from us, but they are free to negotiate with any other team for a new deal which would facilitate a trade, albeit a trade for what we deem appropriate compensation.

    No? Don’t wanna do that? Ok, then we’ll keep you, so shut up, buy in COMPLETELY, and play ball.

    No? Don’t wanna do that? Ok, then sit on the bench indefinitely.

    No? Don’t like that? Wanna act up and cause a scene? OK, then we’ll suspend you without pay for “conduct detrimental to the team” to the fullest, and most frequent, extent permissible under the CBA.

    No? Don’t like that? No problem, just hold out! We’d LOVE that! We can fine you and NOT pay you at the same time! We don’t want you anyway, lol!

    Don’t worry, DeSean, it’s only two years in the prime of your career…it’ll be over before you know! Enjoy!

    • oreofestar

      You see if it gets to the point where they are butting heads like this you trade him but by NO MEANS do you cut him

      • DharmaBum

        Edited and fixed.

    • anon

      You won’t get good money now, we have no power anymore. He’s not going to facilitate a trade. We just saw what revis did.