DeSean Remains In the Dark

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Rumors are swirling, DeSean Jackson is upset, and the Eagles are cracking jokes.

For the past several weeks, there has been a steady stream of speculation regarding Jackson’s future. For example:

There’s an opinion among some in the Eagles organization that Jackson’s personality is not a great fit with the locker room culture that Chip Kelly is trying to cultivate, and the Eagles could be open to trading him. — Jimmy Kempski, Philly.com
Jackson remains an enigmatic figure for a head coach who is agitated quickly by me-first behavior. — Geoff Mosher, CSN Philly
[M]ight the Eagles be willing to trade Jackson for more picks? Believe me when I tell you it’s been talked about on the second floor of NovaCare. — Paul Domowitch, Daily News

This has not gone unnoticed by the veteran receiver, who is currently training out in California. According to multiple sources familiar with the situation, Jackson is unsure about his standing on the team and troubled by what is being written about him. He has reached out to some of his teammates to express his concern. One of Jackson’s top confidants says that the whole situation has become “a bit of a distraction.”




Adding to the confusion/strain is the fact that the Eagles had yet to contact Jackson as of Saturday to offer assurance. This seems a little peculiar, particularly since Chip Kelly has been very careful about making sure his players know where they stand with him. For instance, he spoke with every key veteran on the roster during the draft last April immediately after picking someone at their position.

"I called everybody," said Kelly. "I called Brent Celek when we took a tight end and James Casey. I called Mike [Vick] and we talked to Jason Peters and we talked to Todd Herremans. It’s just kind of the way we’ve done things. When we signed people in free agency I called our guys just to make sure they know where we were. I’m really big on open communication. I don’t want there to be gray areas. I think sometimes there are gray areas because there’s a lack of communication between people."

Bingo.

Jackson is one of the top offensive players on this team, his name is being bandied about as trade bait, and the lines have been silent.

"We're in the dark like everyone else," said a source close to Jackson. "Thought he would at least be worthy of some kind of communication."

The Eagles declined comment for this story and have remained generally quiet on the matter. The only public comments have been coupled with attempts at humor. Asked about the report that Jackson is "one false step" from being cut, general manager Howie Roseman joked that he went home and played the "one false step" game with his wife after seeing the story, adding that nothing in the report came from anyone in the building.

Kelly, in his first meeting of the offseason with the media on Friday, had a chance to squash the speculation. Instead, he used the opportunity to take a jab at another media report. Asked about the receiver’s future and his importance to the team, Kelly replied: “He’s a priority at receiver before [Jeremy] Maclin, behind [Riley] Cooper. Or is it Cooper before Maclin? Or Maclin before Cooper? I’ll check what you write and I’ll tell you how we feel about it.”

From everything we've been told, Jackson wants to remain in Philadelphia. Kelly is the type of coach he has long been waiting for -- someone that will move him around and scheme up a variety of ways to get him involved. It's hard to argue with the results. The 27-year old is coming off his best year as a pro, catching 82 balls for 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns in his first season under Kelly. He was named to his third Pro Bowl – his first since 2010.

There was an adjustment period when Kelly replaced Andy Reid as head coach. Early on, Jackson found himself running with the second and third teams at practice, in part because Jackson wasn’t learning all of the receiver positions as is required in this system. He walked into Kelly’s office for an explanation.

“When I went in there, he said he expects everybody to buy into the system and do everything the right way,” Jackson told Birds 24/7 back in June.  ”And if there is any little thing a player doesn’t want to do, that’s his way of reacting to it. The best thing I did was go talk to him instead of just sitting back and being mad.”

After that discussion, Jackson said he was “all-in” on the offense and went on to have a very productive season. Generally, he seemed more at peace and less standoff-ish than he had in the past.

There were a couple bumps after that, however. He got into it with receivers coach Bob Bicknell during a December game in Minnesota. And shortly after the playoff loss to the Saints, Jackson said that he was hopeful the Eagles would give him a new deal that offered more security. The rest of his contract includes little guaranteed cash, but he’ll earn about $10 million this year if still on the roster opening day.

Given his level of production and Kelly's love for offensive weapons, you would think he would be. But the rumblings persist. We asked one agent that has established credibility with us if he had heard anything regarding Jackson, and he responded: "Yes. Heard there is no way he is back." He isn't looped directly into the situation and isn't to be looked at as a source, but it shows that the rumors are not confined to the internet.  They exist in some league circles. They have reached Jackson and have been relayed to some of his teammates. They are beginning to have an impact.

There are two possible explanations for the Eagles' approach to date: Either they are in fact entertaining the idea of moving on from Jackson, in which case the radio silence would be understandable; or they intend to move forward with the wideout but have not felt compelled to end the public and (more critically) private doubt.

If it is the latter, they are making an error in judgment.

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  • Dominik

    “We asked one agent that has established credibility with us if he had heard anything regarding Jackson, and he responded: “Yes. Heard there is no way he is back.” He isn’t looped directly into the situation and isn’t to be looked at as a source, but it shows that the rumors are not confined to the internet.”

    Okkkk. You better hope that the compensation would be good (1st rounder, AT LEAST, imho). I’m all in on Kelly and would hand the keys over to him, but losing a player like that is tough, especially if he fits in the system (apparently he does) and if we have absolutely no SC problems.

  • wahdoo

    You ever think that the Philly media’s hyper-reporting into every rumor and hypothesis does more harm than good? whether this trade rumor is true or not, it’s obviously having a negative impact on team relations. How about we stop fanning the flames til something actually happens, instead of causing more “distractions”?

    • chloroformdreams

      This, so this, it always upsets me when I see this stuff. But, thinking about it from Tim’s point of view, I have to imagine that there’s at least some pressure on him to find this kind of stuff. It’s probably pretty difficult to ignore something like this if it’s legitimate. so I guess we’re at the mercy of his journalistic integrity.

    • Scrunt

      The point is the Eagles could end those speculations by saying the rumors are untrue and reassuring Desean. They haven’t. Lets not blame the media on this one. Put the blame where it belongs.

      • jay ray

        So it’s not the media’s fault b/c the organization won’t deny their unsubstantiated rumor? Got it.

      • Todd

        Scrunt, Kelly does not play into the games the media play. Watch one of his press conferences, he shuts them down. AND, has Jackson said anything or is it just a “source close to Jackson?” I follow him on twitter, I could be a source by analyzing his tweets to see that he is super concerned…. This article is specious and has no facts to back it up. Nothing reliable anyway.

        • IAteLunchToday

          I learned the word ‘specious’ from King of Queens. Great word!

          • Todd

            I heard an attorney use it one day and was determined to use it one day. Just could never find a way to slide it into conversation. Today was the day. It is a great word.

          • Los

            it is a great word! matter of fact, I’m going to make it my word of the day!!! i’m going to focus & emphasize this word & it’s meaning & proper use until is it a part of my normal day to day vocabulary! thank you good sir!

          • Todd

            Glad I could help. For more good words check out the Eagles Fansided website: http://www.insidetheiggles.com. I think I even wrote about this very topic. I do not think Jackson is going anywhere.

      • Drew Nickel

        How do you know they didn’t? A source told me that Desean is staying…

    • Tom W

      Yes I agree completely … they constantly do this over the last 20 yrs … various superstars … flames stroked to get better ratings, listeners, sell papers, clicks. I could list all the stars they have done this to, but the list would be wayyyyyyyy too long. its a joke,

      Tim is merely connecting the dots and actually doing some of his own investigative reporting which I respect … some of the other reports is more drama and rumor flaming.

      But the whole thing started bc of media reports of rumors and innuendos. kempski had no sources. and eskin just retweeted. and no its taken on a life of its own. Eagles shouldn’t have to respond to this crap reporters start.

    • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

      It’s a tough one. If you’re a journalist and you don’t report this and DeSean Jackson gets traded in a draft day blockbuster you’re screwed. Everybody will wonder why Birds 24/7 had no clue what was going on. If nothing happens you don’t really loose. Blaming “the media” is easy and lazy. Don’t forget, Jackson has brought this on himself and the Eagles or Jackson could call one another for some clarity.

      • SoCalEaglesFan

        How did Jackson bring this on himself? The kind of things we know about Jackson’s behavior are real small potatoes in the grand scheme of general player behavior these days. So either something happened that we don’t know about (if so, where are the journalists), or this is a complete fabrication that entered an echo chamber of dumb, dumber, and dumbest.

        As I’ve mentioned before, if Kelly can’t deal with the sort of things from Jackson that we know about, then Kelly is the one who doesn’t belong in the nfl. And I don’t happen to believe that Kelly doesn’t belong. I can think of a number of Philly area sports writers who don’t deserve a job, but that’s another topic.

        • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

          I love Jackson but getting into a fight with your position coach (who’s basically your boss) that’s not showing much maturity. The contract demands after the Saints game were ill-advised too.

          I don’t think he’s a bad guy for that stuff but I can see why the team may be inclined to get rid of him. Whether that’s a smart decision or not, only time will tell. Reporters report and where there’s smoke there’s usually fire.

    • mtn_green

      I think trading DeSean is crazy. Tim is telling us his sources confirm its possible.

      Hrmm

      • Johnny Domino

        Or at least someone’s sources think it’s possible.

  • Andy

    This is a non-story. What are the facts? A bunch of Philly writers have speculated about this? Kelly has not called Jackson after not signing any free agent receivers who weren’t on the roster last year? You called one of Jackson’s entourage and they said you were “a bit of a distraction?”

  • Will

    Maybe there is no truth to the trade rumours and no reason to reach out to Jackson. It works both ways, Jackson should not let the phone weigh 1200 pounds. Pick up the phone and call Coach Kelly….Jackson is an effective decoy in this offense, demands double coverage, spreads the defense, has incredible speed. The only real productive WR on the roster gaining over 1300 yards. Before they think about trading him who on the Eagles could cover him if we should face him? I hope the Eagles think this thru….

  • Not FuriousXGeorge

    Kinda reads like this whole thing is purely a media creation. One big game of telephone. The rumors were created out of thin air with the original article claiming it made sense. Then they just kept churning out new stories until people started believing. Then they asked people about it who say there is something there based on having heard the rumors 2nd or 3rd hand.

  • GEAGLE

    Yawn

    • Will

      LMAO…put this story in the dead zone where it belongs….

      • GEAGLE

        No news in 5 days, natives are getting restless, by golly, let’s create some news…this is rather TMZish
        ..
        Since your “source” doesn’t know a damn thing, and he was only speculating, what exactly was the harm in him letting you attach his name to this speculation based opinion? Not like he is giving away any trade secrets..why wouldn’t he attach his name to a simple opinion?

        • Will

          yup gotta sell these sports rags somehow…and keep my editor happy…

          • GEAGLE

            Sheil doesn’t do crap like this…get bored? Do another all 22

          • Will

            On Desean Jackson for that matter stressing his importance to this offense…..All 22 is so cool….

          • Token

            Are you gonna BOOK IT that hes not traded? Kinda like you BOOKED IT that Chung was not getting cut or that Avant was staying?

          • Dominik

            I wouldn’t smash Sheil or Tim for this article. I think they let themselves time, did their research and that’s what they came up with. Doesn’t mean it will happen, but I wouldn’t kill the messenger, either. ;)

          • GEAGLE

            Research hasn’t come up with many facts,..I’d leave the gossipy rumors to Florio…he already has the market cornered on TMZ trash…

          • Dominik

            They asked around. No one knows what’s really going on – I doubt Jackson does. The quote from the agent is interesting, imho.

            Like I said, no one knows, but silence shouldn’t be the solution if many people are talking about this. This article doesn’t say that he will get traded. This article asks around. That is journalism, imho.

            And you have to admit (that doesn’t mean I would trade him, but I don’t know what’s going on in the locker room) that it would make sense to trade him this offseason, IF you want to trade him at all. A draft full of WR and your 27 year old star WR is coming of the best year of his career.

            Like I said: if you want to trade him, now would be a good time to do it. The question is: do you want to trade him? We can debate that, no doubt.

          • GEAGLE

            See cramp like this? It does no good for the eagles, they are lucky if it doesn’t turn into drama distraction…if you are going to do your part fanning the flames of a fire, I would hope you have some serious intel first…..so tired of media creating drama around our team to meet their quota…media turn this enough into a crap storm, Desean flips out and it gets to a point where every teamKNOWS WE HAVE to trade him, and that’s how you end up with only a 3rd round pick in return. If you are going to write a story that does no good to the fans, or my beloved Eagles, I would ope you uncovered some serious intel to suggest that it’s true

          • Dominik

            I don’t want to get philosophical here, but good journalism doesn’t have to be good for an organisation (or a country, for that matter). It has to be fact searching and committed to the truth.

            If all of this is a bubble and the media knows it (!), I’m with you. But to me, it just looks like they are doing their job.

          • GEAGLE

            See your first paragraph? Completely agree with it, but you can’t talk about good journalism, without including any damn facts…only fact we got is coach cracked a joke,Deseans phone hasn’t rung, and god knows who made that annonymous statement.,you don’t get to talk about good journalism, which flaky at best intel like that…you have a real scoop, with real facts that will hurt the team, then write it, I understand the nature of the job, and I’m not suggesting the media help cover something up…this media constantly F’s with our Lockeroom over speculation…energy at Novacare has never allegedly been better, it’s like the media can’t stand one summer of No drama, smooth sailing…lcant wait to see the Barkley vs. folles QB competition they try and fabricate

          • Token

            So they cant write a article unless they know for a fact Jackson has already been traded? Geez, you must not be able to read 98% of news.

          • Not FuriousXGeorge

            Maybe they could start by waiting for a single source at all connected to the Eagles to say they are even considering this. There is no indication at all they actually are beyond mind reading Howie and Chip.

          • Token

            They cant write based on things they are hearing? There would be almost no news if that were the case.

            Did you guys flip out like this over FA rumors? What about when Tim wrote he heard they liked MJ?

            Just because your feelings are hurt that they may be thinking of trading your favorite player, doesnt mean you should make a habit of trashing the people who provide this website we all enjoy.

          • Not FuriousXGeorge

            If you are hearing from a source with actual knowledge of the situation that is one thing. There is no such source connected to the Eagles or DeSean that even anonymously will say this has been discussed and NOBODY was hearing anything until the original article that claimed only that this might be a good idea, not even that anyone was considering it.

            “When there’s smoke there’s fire.” isn’t really convincing coming from someone who has lit and is fanning the fire all on their own. That is what is happening in the media right now.

            “What about when Tim wrote he heard they liked MJ?”

            Jenkins? Link? I recall an article where he reported he fit the team but not one that said they had interest. Look, I know Birds 24/7 is your favorite website but you need to stop freaking out and trashing people you disagree with.

          • Dominik

            “and god knows who made that annonymous statement”

            See, and here we are – do we trust Tim or not? I can’t answer that for you. If the one agent who made the statement really is

            “We asked one agent that has established credibility with us [...] He isn’t looped directly into the situation and isn’t to be looked at as a source”

            and therefore trustworthy, then it is a story. If not, you’re right. We, from the outside, can only speculate. I, for one, trust Tim on that one. But I don’t blame you if you don’t.

          • GEAGLE

            Trust his source? The source who isn’t connected to the eagles and providing an oppinion based on more rumors? He didint divulge any crazy trade secrets, if he wanted trust, he could have attached his name to this statement, don’t see what harm it would do since he is only the 3000th person to say the same rumor……and considering Tim based predictions on “law of average saying the eagles have to eventually come back down to earth(when predicting a loss to Arizona”, then sorry, but I think his source is full of crap, and KNOWS nothing more then the same speculation that has been going around…don’t see what harm would come if he attached his name to his opinion. Want trust? Go on record instead of hiding behind anonymity..

          • Dominik

            If I’m the agent, I maybe want to make a few good deals with the Eagles. You can bet Howie doesn’t like the speculation (could reduce the trade value, if they want to trade him) and maybe he would be upset with this agent. Not worth it (what does he gain?), if I’m him.

            But like I said, without clear facts, it’s just a game of trust. If you don’t trust that source, you have every right to do so.

          • Jason A Hines

            Actually it seems to me that next season would be the offseason to trade him. What if you draft a WR and he’s a bust? You draft Jackson’s replacement this year and then ship Jackson off after you know what you have.

          • NickS1

            Florio and Freeman. Those two are meant for each other.

  • Uncle Wonder

    I would be disappointed to see him go and think the offense would suffer b/c of it, but if someone offers two 1sts, what can you do?

  • anon

    Trade makes sense. We don’t have a bunch of picks. Jackson is coming off a career year and is one of our few tradeable players. I wosecurity of other playersn’t put it past the eagles they are quiet with personnel moves. Maybe they are going to go scared straight with Jackson.

    All that said trade while good for the team it’s a bad look given all that we’ve heard about team building and what it would mean for other players.

    • Token

      Not really a bad look. We dont know that. We dont know how Jackson is behind the scenes. Teammates could look at it as a positive to extract him.

  • morgan c

    Jackson had a great year and is a really important piece. However, I trust in Chip and Howie (increasingly more so regarding the latter). If they think his personality doesn’t fit with the team culture and he is a me-first distraction, then I would hesitantly support trading him. However, if we do, we have to get a haul. First round pick or stud starter for sure. Hopefully, Jackson can stop being such a malcontent and just realize he is a key player on this team and is making 10 mil a year. Sometimes, I just can’t understand these players.

    • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

      I think the biggest concern for Djax is guaranteed money…no player wants to risk getting injured in the off season. If that happens he only receives $250,000. That’s the reason why he wants the restructure, to know that he’ll be getting paid his worth this year and the next year versus worrying about getting hurt on a weekly basis. This year he’ll be paid weekly when the season starts to earn his money if he’s still on the team. I get “it” from both sides of the table…Eagles are making him sweat and weighing options and DJax is just trying to secure himself financially. Like you said, if a trade happens we need to get a nice haul in return. I still see Kelly falling for a trade up for WR Mike Evans. That would be Chip’s kind of receiver on the outside.

  • Token

    The longer this goes the more likely hes gone this year. Probably draft night. Could they get a Harvin type deal, A first rounder?

    If this goes down it means a few things. One is that Jackson may be more of a locker room problem than we know. It may mean Chip doesnt think Jackson is quite as good as many people think and feels he will never get more value back that he could now. He may not like seeing him get completely shut out down the stretch. If some offseason moves already have been based just on that Saints game, im sure it sticks with Chip that Jackson was completely taken out of that game by Allen.

    To me, If they can get a 2nd and some other pick id do it. A 1st rounder is a no brainer. You would likely be in position to get another top tier WR which was a option even with DeSean.

    • Will

      Why get one pick for DeSean Jackson to draft a WR with no guarantee he could match DeSean’s production or do all the things DJax does for this Offense. Makes little to no sense to me…maybe for 2 first round picks this year I would entertain the thought of trading DJax…

      • Token

        Obviously, if they trade him its for a reason. Chip would have to not think hes as good of a player as fans do. Or doesnt like his fit in the chemistry of the team. Maybe both.

      • Dominik

        It would only makes sense from a salary point of view (but we have no issues with that) and, and that could be the key here, from a mentality point of view. I have to say: if he’s really not buying in like a player should, I could understand that they want to get rid of him. It’s still early, but I think we can trust Chip. He wants to do things his way. And if D-Jax WOULD (!) stand in the way of that, they could let him go with good reason.

        But again, for me, the value has to be right. 2nd round + x or 1st round. Losing D-Jax without SC issues for a 3rd rounder would be a major disappointment for me.

        • Will

          SC issues? SC means what? Confused?

          • Dominik

            Salary Cap ;)

          • Will

            Thanks…

        • Token

          They actually would have 6 mil in dead money this year, which sucks but they can afford it.

          All I know is where there keeps being smoke there is usually some fire. Usually complete non stories go away by now. This thing has been chugging for weeks now. Add in the fact that Chip hasnt contacted Jackson and even random agents are hearing things, I dunno…… If his contract isnt fixed by the draft I think its likely hes gone.

          • NickS1

            His contract shouldn’t be touched before this season because it’ll add to the cap the following years, and it appears we’re saving up some for ’15. If you’re restructuring/renegotiating his deal, it’s next year.

    • Adam G

      If they were offered a 1st rounder its an absolute no brainer. His value has never been higher and there is a chance that they would have to cut him after the year because of his contract. 2nd rounder I think the Eagles would jump at that

    • Uncle Wonder

      Looking back at the game, there were several chances to get the ball to Jax, but Foles either didnt see him or wasnt confident to throw him a 50/50 ball…we have a young, developing QB and sometimes opportunities will be left on the field. Im sure Kelly knows that though. If that game is the deciding factor then Coop should be gone after that drop with 20 yards of real estate in front of him.

      • Token

        Coop isnt making over 10 million dollars and counted on to be a dominant piece of an offense.

      • fran35

        But Coop does whatever the coach asks and never sulks. He plays hard no matter what. And Chip values that.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Thats besides the point…I was purely speculating on the idea that the FO views the NO game in a vacuum.

    • Richard Colton

      As much as I hate the idea of trading Jackson – the idea that a team would part with a #1 isn’t crazy. If teams are that intent on copying the Seahawks blueprint that Stanley Jean-Baptiste is going to go in round two, than any Seattle-esque move is possible.

      What argues against it are the three reasons we want to deal him: his contract, his attitude, and the depth at WR in the draft. Why give the Eagles the pick you could use on ODB or Cooks, when those players are so much cheaper?

      • Dominik

        It could only work if the other team is desperate. The Panthers could (should :D) be desperate, but they don’t have the cap room.

        If Rex Ryan wants to give Marty (and Geno, for that matter) a real shot he could offer his 1st rounder. He would probably pick a WR, he would get a proven commodity. The Jets are in win now mode (at least Ryan is) and they have the cap room. They COULD make a move.

        • Nfl All Day

          The Panthers would be among the most likely. But its a tough market with this draft class.

        • borntosuffer

          Maybe the Jets get Vick and Jackson?

          • NickS1

            A part of me would be laughing very much inside.

          • Andy124

            Marty’d be signing, “Reunited and it feels so… something”.

      • Ertz Donut

        Exactly!! There’s no way we are getting an early pick for him. Silly to speculate anyone would trade multiple high draft picks. He’s probably going to Carolina for a 3rd rounder.

        • Andy124

          I would vomit.

          • Richard Colton

            Same here. A 3rd rounder? I’d rather have him for one season than a 3rd rounder.

      • NickS1

        Why not take 3-4 years of proven commodity instead of hoping your staff and crappy QB can do wonders with a rookie?

        • Token

          Because Chip doesnt like him. Thats the conclusion you would have to come to. Simple.

          • NickS1

            As the team trading a pick for D-Jax… Obv we don’t have a crappy QB, Token.

          • Token

            o duh. My bad.

          • NickS1

            Lol

    • NickS1

      If they pull a first rounder, I hope it’s top 15 so we can trade down one of the two spots and acquire more picks.

  • GEAGLE

    Hahahaha Jim Irsay got arrested for DUI and possession (drug)… Gotta love that owner

    • Dominik

      Edit: Sorry, made a mistake here. :)

    • fran35

      HAHA. I am not surprised, that guy is a moron. He seems like he his drunk and high when he sends out those ridiculous tweets.

      • GEAGLE

        Sounds like painkillers were also involved..must be nice to have a team doc write you scripts for whatever the hell you damn please

      • PDidIt

        Fran35 I was thinking the same thing. Why did he not use the services provided by the NFL?

  • JoeKnowsnada

    I trust the Eagles in this, but, I just hope it’s not a case of the Coach and GM thinking the system is bigger than the player. In other words, “we can just plug in ANY speedy wideout, and he will prosper, so we don’t necessarily need DJax.” DJax is the most exciting player we have (next to, or in tandem with, Shady, I guess). Defenses scheme for him. So, unless, as someone else said, they can back the Brinks truck up to the back door and reap a real haul, in terms of draft picks, I say he is worth the trouble/diva stuff. We still don’t know if JMac is 100%, so why bother stirring the pot, upsetting the roster at a position of strength?

    • Adam G

      If they know they will have to act after this season because of his contract, they have to try to trade him now to get anything in return. His cap number and salary are higher than his production. Combined with his attitude the trade makes perfect sense.

      • NickS1

        His salary is third and his cap hit is fifth and he is a top 10 receiver. It’s not really out of line. Other than that, though, yes, I agree there’s a strong case to be made to trade him now. We’ll see.

        • Adam G

          Top 5 is different than top 10. And taking up almost 10% of the cap just doesn’t justify his value.

          • cliff henny

            I keep looking at that cap space too…wonder why Eagles are holding at 20+m. somethings brewing.

          • NickS1

            It’s to roll over plenty for next year. Assuming they keep Jax and no other moves, after they pay rookies that rolls over around 12mil.

          • cliff henny

            still have moves to make that can open space. 12m is a good rollover number, but looking at ’15s cap, something going to be cleared. they wont be in the negative before rollover, even though there’s plenty of players to be moved to clear space. that’s limiting flexibility. if we’re learned 1 thing, it’s eagles value flexibility

          • NickS1

            That they do. NFL All Day noted the receivers eligible for free agency next year, could be that something brewing that Howie’s saving for.

          • Adam G

            Not just WRs, because of the CBA, next year is the first year all those guys are FAs coming off of 4 year deals. Just look at the broncos, they have Von Miller, and both Thomases as FAs. There are a ton of guys who will be free agents.

          • NickS1

            Very true. Didn’t even think of that aspect. But let’s be real, it’s the WRs that really get Chip going.

          • Nfl All Day

            Because they can rollover whatever they dont spend.

          • NickS1

            How different are they? It’s not like he’s Mike Wallace.

          • Adam G

            Those big cap numbers should be reserved for guys who are bigger difference makers. Desean had decent numbers but they weren’t great.

          • NickS1

            He was a top 10 receiver in an offense that had the top rushing attack as well. What more do you want from him? I’d like to see his number lowered as well, but he’s not paid out of line for what he did stat-wise. Now if you’re factoring in the headaches he can occasionally bring as well as being shut out down the stretch, then I agree. But strictly numbes, top 10.

      • Nfl All Day

        Before you make a statement about how unmanageable his deal is you should look up the highest paid WRs for this yr and beyond, paying attention to their production, age, and guranteed money. Then come back and tell me they HAVE to trade him because of the contract. If they WANT to trade him, it aint because of the contract. The contact is a good one for both.

        • Nfl All Day
          • Adam G

            Ok, and do you really think that he’s worth 10% of the cap? Have you looked at the Eagles 2015 cap yet? Please do that first, then get back to me.

          • aub32

            Yes he is. He produces like a top 10 WR, even when the #2 and #3 guy were Coop and Avant. He also did it with a still developing Foles who missed him several times. That’s not to mention he left at least 150 yards on the field in the SD game where Vick was missing him. Yes he deserves that money.

          • Adam G

            Ok, if you think he would get that money on the open market I don’t really know what to say. Because that is the true test of value.

          • NickS1

            If you don’t think he’d get something similar to Wallace’s deal, when he’s better than Wallace, you’re nuts.

          • Adam G

            Wallace’s deal was last year. Obviously values have changed. Look at Decker’s deal. NFL changes. You cannot compare one year to the next, look at the difference in FA deals last year compared to this across positions.

          • NickS1

            Decker’s a #2. Look at Byrd. Set out to be highest paid S based on Goldson’s deal, and guess what, he got it. So, yeah, there’s basis for comparison.

          • Adam G

            No, the whole WR market this year is down. Look at ALL of the contracts. Oh and btw, how did TJ Wards 7 mil a year projected salary turn out? And that Byrd comparison is a straw man argument. I’m discussing WRs THIS year, not safeties this year, or WRs last year. James Jones still unsigned. Obviously the market for WRs just isn’t the same. Look how much money Nicks ended up taking.

          • NickS1

            Values changed this year with the class. I get that. Who was a #1 WR on the market? All #2s out there. So, in effect, you’re using the straw man as well by using the contracts given to #2s and applying them to a #1.

          • Adam G

            How can Decker be a #2 if he just signed on to be a number one? I think you don’t know the top 32 WRs if you think he’s a number 2

          • NickS1

            He was a #2 when he hit the market.

          • Adam G

            Dude, you are not even understanding the definition of a number one WR. He most certainly is a number one. He signed on to be one and he is most definitely a top 32 WR, which by definition is a number one WR. Enough.

          • NickS1

            He was a #2 when he hit the market. He’s a de facto #1 in NY because they cleaned house. You’re right, enough.

          • Adam G

            By your logic that makes Welker a #3, just because he wasn’t better than demaryius thomas doesn’t mean he’s not a number one. He is one, that’s a fact. You are just being stubborn. His salary shows the current market.

          • NickS1

            Agree to disagree. If D-Jax hit the market the Raiders would pay him ridiculous money. Different teams value different things. And, no, my logic doesn’t make Welker a #3. I understand how you think that. I, personally, view DT and WW as 2 #1s and Decker as a #2. Decker’s never done anything without someone else alongside of him, and he was 3rd option in DEN more often than not. I know it’s confusing, but we woudn’t be having this conversation if Peyton didn’t make him look so good.

          • aub32

            I think had he have been on the open market this offseason that he would have been one of the highest paid players. He would have been the #1 sought after FA.

          • ryyndynyyls

            No, son. The true test of value is the numbers he puts up in your system, with your coach, with teammates he already knows. Value is not one-dimensionally related to what others would pay for him. It’s about what he does for you. And with Desean that goes well-beyond just the numbers on paper. You seriously have to get real right now.

          • Nfl All Day

            Desean is under 10% of a cap that’s 0rojected to rise by as much as $10M a year for the next few years, during which his salary is scheduled to go down. So no. Not overpaid by that metric. Second heres a list of guys who could and many will not be on this team next year….Trent, Meco, Celek, Casey, B.Fletch, Sconce, Herremans,Graham, Maclin, Benn, B.Smith,….not saying they all go, but they all could with positive cap ramifications. So there’s pl3nty of flexibility there. Let’s not promote the narritive that Desean is hampering our ability to compete because he’s over paid. 82/1332/9 as the #1 target facing constant bracket coverage. 27yrs old, on a club freindly contract where they can wash their hands if and when he ever truly becomes a problem. This is maddness. In the great Philly tradition of washing out our best players in their prime cause you dont like the guys attitude. Give me a break!

          • Adam G

            Splitting hairs here. Lets just say its around 10%, that’s high on the WR side. They have a ton of money invested in WRs on a percentage of cap level. Think the days of non top 5 WRs getting huge money are over.

          • Nfl All Day

            They have a ton of money period, with more to come. Money’s not gonna be the reason they trade him, if they do.

          • Adam G

            If you think money is not an issue, you are not looking at this the right way. If his cap number was 5 mil, this wouldn’t even be an issue. Of course its an issue, he has the highest cap number on the team. You gotta take your head out of the sand.

          • Nfl All Day

            Somebody will always have the highest number on the. When you’re the second most productive player on the team is not the issue you’re making it. If he was Miles Austin I could see your point. But his deal, given all the other moving parts, and potential for cap flexibility, the contract won’t be the reason.

    • Token

      Speed isnt what makes a good WR. In a what if scenario……say they trade Jackson and draft Mike Evans. You are losing speed overall on offense, but can we say it would be a worse offense as a whole just because of that?

      Chip does value speed. But I think more in his toys like a Black Mamba or a Sproles than in a WR. I dunno tho. Chip may have pictured Jackson to be a toy he could move around, but thats not really his game. Jackson isnt good out of the backfield.

  • Candis McLean

    A bunch of hyperbole and speculation. “A source close to Jackson”… Pretty much Chip isn’t telling the media anything. Desean is in Cali saying nothing. And everyone is connecting dots blindfolded. Good luck.

    • kstagg

      A “source close to Jackson” could very well be Vick’s brother.

  • Will

    Not one reliable source can confirm this BS….why bother pushing the rumours?

  • cliff henny

    don’t like idea till thinking Raiders can be fleeced. talking at least 1st and 3rd. D-Jax for Sammy Watkins (or even better Mike Evans and another 2nd) and Christian Jones. trading DJ would be tough for me to understand today, but do like the idea of getting Kelly max young talent.

    • Dominik

      Raiders love speed like no one else, they have cap room and Allen is in win now mode (altough they will not win in this division, imho). Could make sense.

      But it would be a *Raiders* move and although they often act dumb, you can’t count on that. ;)

      • cliff henny

        Bullet Tooth Tony: You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

        • Dominik

          It blew my mind that they would have picked DJ Hayden with the 3rd overall if not, literally last second, the Dolphins would have called. And it speaks volume that they got him with the 12th…

          Would have changed our first year under Kelly, also. Jordan or Johnson? I guess they would have picked Dion. Now who’s your RT? …

        • NickS1

          Favorite character in the movie.

    • GEAGLE

      Rather see the raiders be dumb enough to trade for Mike Wallace…if they are going to be dumb, might as well commit to full retard

      • cliff henny

        i’m pretty much against any D-Jax trade, but you show me a way to get Mike Evans and Christian Jones, and still have 22 and 54, my ears are perking like a German Shepherd Dog

        • GEAGLE

          Don’t really care either way,,trade him keep him, I’m pretty indifferent… rather see us trade him, then curry to get value

          • cliff henny

            it’d have to be a hell of a haul in picks. Kelly isn’t going backwards on adding offensive talent, that’s a given. someone has to hand them Watkins or Evans plus more.

          • GEAGLE

            Think it’s silly. Keep the continuity and hit on 5 draft picks and we will be fine…add another two FA next year and hit on 5 more picks and we will be fine…..I like the way we building for long term success

          • cliff henny

            it is, unless the haul in picks is stupid good. there’s still cap moves to be made, ’15 is fine, but not like we’re used too. know guys can be cut, but being only way to get space isn’t smart, look at Dallas.

    • PDidIt

      Sammy Watkins is more valuable to a team now before the draft than DeSean is today. You people are so football rookies with the comments on this board. Guess I will go back home!

      • cliff henny

        almost 100% off what I said, but good contribution

  • Nfl All Day

    This is th Eagles trying to scare the “me” out of Desean ahead of the 2 big $12M+ seasons in 2014 & ’15. If the kid first, wants the remaining $34M left on his deal over the next 3 yrs, and second, wants a chance to put up the numbers he did last season, he’ll have to realize the sidelline theatrics we saw in Minnesota, and whatever shenanigans we’re not privy too will have to stop. There’s always a chance the Eagles will want to restructure the deal, but with the projected cap increases over the next few yrs, there’s little reason to believe they CAN’T pay him. DON’T WANT TO PAY is another issue, but why would you cut thus kid whose ceiling is still the moon. Especially once you get Maclin back, and give the defense another deep threat to worry about, and garner safety help. Another overlooked aspect of DJax and Shady’s deals is the Eagles structured bith to peak in 2015, before actually becoming less expensive. Shady’s drops from $11.9 M in 2015, to $8.8M in ’16, and $7.8M in ’17. Desean goes from $12.7M this yr, to $12M, to $10M. They’re only gonna get cheaper………….

    And everything I just said is out the window if they decide they can get one of the absolute STUDS that will be available in next yrs Free Agent class…studs like AJ, DEMARYUS, DEZ,JORDY, COBB, CRABTREE. So….go figure

    • Andy124

      That first sentence, kind the exact opposite of Chip’s straight forward approach. Manipulative tactics like that do not make for sustained success.

      • Nfl All Day

        Dealing with a diva.

    • GEAGLE

      Those WRs will never make it to the market,

      • Nfl All Day

        We’d have said the same for Byrd and Ward a month ago.

      • Nfl All Day

        You think Dez doesn’t want out of Dallas right now? Especially with Romo on his last legs?Will Dallas even be able to pay him?

        • cliff henny

          legs are fine, he’s on his last discs

        • NickS1

          Even if Dez did hit market, can’t see us taking a run at him since he seems to be worse of a headache than DJ.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahaha lol we would never add that fool

          • PDidIt

            Dez is not a headache nor is he selfish. DeSean will mature in time. You keep your headache and we will keep our BEAST Dez “Thow Up the X”

          • Tikkit

            Sorry man your ‘boys are going to be in perpetual suckitude for the foreseeable future. JJ is awful. I almost feel bad. Almost…

          • Nfl All Day

            Point taken

        • PDidIt

          You must have not heard, Dez will never leave Dallas, you can take him out of the mix.

  • EaglefaninAZ

    I’m glad this draft is heavy in wideouts. That’s all I’m saying.

    • Token

      How do you like it in AZ? What part are you from?

      • EaglefaninAZ

        I’m just south of Sedona. Pretty much dead center of the state. Love the weather, but being in the high desert, it still gets plenty cool in the winter. Beautiful scenery hereabouts. All my family is still near Philly, but I tell ‘em I only miss the food. :D

        • Token

          Yea Ive been thinking of moving from the Northeast to a better climate in a few years. Arizona is on the list. It seemed that Prescott wasnt looking too bad. Not all that far from the Sedona area. Still get cold in the winter, but seems most days average around 50 even then. Do you still get all the pests like scorpions that far north?

          • EaglefaninAZ

            In the summertime we get the same buggers as elsewhere. I don’t buy that 50 average in winter for Prescott. They sit at 5,000 feet. I’d call that average closer to 40. Lots more built up in that area, so it offers everything. They even have minor league hockey down the road. For affordable housing, you’re probably looking at Prescott Valley. It’s right next door.

          • Token

            Im an admitted wuss when it comes to insects and the like. How bad are the scorpions and giant roaches? Looking around it seems like some people can live there for years and never see a scorpion. Others say they are in the house all the time. That seems horrible.

            But it comes down to having horrible long winters like we did this year in PA or dealing with some more bugs.

          • EaglefaninAZ

            Usually pretty easy to keep ‘em outta the house. They prefer being outside under rocks. I used to do landscaping here. Rebuilt a block wall once. You’d have loved it. Found about 60 scorpions in a 3×6 area. Lol… Good rule of thumb here is that every plant, animal or bug can poke, sting, or kill ya. We have some impressive poisonous centipedes here that get up to 6 inches long. And the not so famous Tarantula Hawk. A hornet that can employ up to 13 stingers with 13 different venoms. So when can I expect ya? :-D

          • EaglefaninAZ

            Keeping them out of the house isn’t too hard. They prefer outside under rocks. I’ve found nests with dozens of them. The saying here is that every plant, bug and animal here can mess you up in some form or another. We have cool poisonous centipedes that can get 6 inches long. And the not so famous Tarantula Hawk. A hornet with up to 13 stingers and a different venom in each. Lol… so when can we expect you? :-D

    • Scrunt

      Might be why there is trade speculation actually. You could get someone who does what Desean can do for less money and less drama.

      • aub32

        Really? How many receivers that are currently pros can do what DeSean does? You really expect that the odds we find a guys that can undoubtedly replace DJax’s production is high?

  • Will

    More likely the Eagles FO stirring these rumours so they can generate some contract leverage…

    • Scrunt

      They don’t need contract leverage. Desean is under contract.

      • Adam G

        Come on man, they are going to renegotiate.

  • Andy124

    Like I said before, I’ll believe DJax is getting traded after he gets traded. 3 days after, just to be safe.

    That being said, I’d prefer the FO didn’t take the stance that the rumors are so unfounded and ridiculous that we don’t have to let DJ know so. I’m fine with not publicly refuting them. I do wish they’d reach out to Jackson and give him a little piece of mind, if they have truly not already done so and if he truly is getting concerned about this.

    Also, I’d prefer it if he contacted the team for some reassurances rather than get himself all worked up over it.

    Drama.

    • JofreyRice

      given what you can gather from the outside about this story, it would be a colossally stupid move. Big time wide receivers are divas. It comes with the territory. What has Jackson done?

      Oh, I would be really upset with this. Sign a bunch of mid-level bums and get rid of one of your actual superstars, in the name of cap value.

      • Andy124

        I’ve made the same ‘Cooper could end up as your best receiver” counter argument repeatedly this week. I’m with you.

        As for what Jackson has done, I gave you a devil’s advocate response above. But my real answer is:

        Catch 80+ balls for 1,300+ yards while buying in to the system, learning all the positions, fighting for balls as well as his body will allow and generally playing his heart out.

  • dollamakeuholla

    There is a reason that no one has denied this story! Just like Tim said why would Chip make it a point to talk to the players to insure them and let them know what is going on and just brush off these rumors? They know how sensitive Jackson is and chip and howie are both tip toeing around the subject! Also bringing in sproles is another sign that Jackson is all but gone! How many times did you see Jackson and Shady lined up in the backfield? Jackson caught A LOT of balls off the wheel route coming out of the backfield! Now that is going to go to Sproles! I hate to say it but Jackson is gone! And why wouldn’t 24/7 write about this! It is very obvious this is a story and there is something going on! And they are much more into the behind the scenes as we are so where there is smoke there is FIRE!

    • borntosuffer

      From what I remember, all the cases of Kelly calling the players had to do with personnel moves, not rumors. Still, one would think at this point he might reach out.

      • dollamakeuholla

        When he drafted and traded for people he would call the players and explain his reasoning if it would effect that player. 94.1 was playing his quotes on why he does that yesterday.

    • Richard Colton

      Bringing in Sproles is proof that Jackson will be traded? You’ll have to explain that.

      • dollamakeuholla

        It’s not proof but it is another playmaker that can help fill the void if Jackson is traded! I love Jackson and hate to see him go! He is going to be my Keeper in fantasy this year! LOL. However they showed over and over how Kelly likes to spread out defenses vertically and horizontally. I saw a ton of replays where Desean would go all the way to one side and shady the other. that can go to Sproles now and they will hope Maclin can help Vertically if he can come back healthy he was pretty fast as well. Definitely not Jackson fast but does Chip Need Jackson fast! And I know chip will want the black Mamba this year and him at 200k compared to 10 mil might be more interesting to Chip! you have to admit i heard over and over on 94.1 quotes from Chip on why he likes to call the players on new trades and drafts and for them to make no comments on anything and let Jacksons Ego get more and more upset just doesn’t make sense!

        • dollamakeuholla

          and Sproles will definitely cut into Jackson’s stats more than Shady’s

  • Corey

    Hey guys, sorry if this has been said already. The Panthers have let every quality receiver walk, I think they only have McNutt left under contract. They have the 28th pick in the first round. They don’t seem to be showing much urgency to fill their WR roles, think they were going after Nicks a little maybe, but what if the Eagles are offering them Jackson and are just trying to get that first round pick and the Panthers are trying to make it only a 2nd round pick?

    For the Panthers teaming Jackson with Newton would be pretty impressive and formidable. That seems like the most logical thing at this point. I think Kelly should really be backing Jackson more openly, he is a huge speed weapon in his offense, but he is staying quiet for some reason. With only 6 picks in such a deep draft they need to drop a bombshell and get more picks.

    • NickS1

      He’d have to restructure his deal to fit in that cap hell of a situation.

      • Corey

        Never thought of that. I don’t see why they don’t just openly back him to stay in Philly. You know how they used to send Shady and Djax in opposite directions to stretch out defenses, now with Sproles they could send them all in 3 different directions. It just sounds so deadly, but maybe Kelly thinks Jackson is replaceable.

        • Adam G

          They can’t openly back him because they will eventually have to do something about his contract. It would shock me if Chip doesn’t think about the allocation of value with respect to the salary cap.

    • JofreyRice

      yeah, they sprang to my mind as well. Another team that I think of is San Fran. They would be utterly sick, with Anquan, Davis and Crabtree running the underneath stuff and Jackson taking the top off the D. It’s an arms race out there, those teams are not afraid to make a big move to get better.

      • Corey

        Now that I think about it, if I’m trading him, he is going to the AFC, lol

    • Tikkit

      There ain’t no way you want to trade DJax to the Panthers. Strengthen that team? No thanks.

  • Token

    Forgot that NFL owners meetings are next week. Something could happen then too.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Will Jim be there?

  • G_WallyHunter

    Given what this team has done so far this OS, and given Desean’s stupid attitude, is anyone else thinking his talent is expendable if it get’s rid of his stupid attitude?
    As hard as it is for me, he’s definitely my favourite eagle of the past 5 years, I almost think shipping him is in the greater good of the team and culture that CK is working hard to build.
    Call me crazy?

    • Andy124

      crazy

      • G_WallyHunter

        Fine then Andrew, I just support what some other people have said, that a pass-catcher can be had in the draft that would sufficiently replace him in this system..

        • aub32

          We aren’t talking about replacing Cooper. Go look at the receivers picked in the 1st round of the last 5 years. Outside of Green and Jones, both of which were top 6 picks, none of them have produced what DJax has produced.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Good point indeed. What I’m saying relates more to the organizational health and direction as a greater good and not Desean’s individual talent, just the angle I’m taking, obviously I don’t want to see his talent go but if it’s in the interest of the program then things might change.

          • aub32

            What’s the point of improving the organizational health if it doesn’t translate into wins. Riley Cooper pissed off just about every single Eagle with his N-word situation. I’m pretty sure that had more of an effect on the locker room than DJax confiding in a couple players that he’d like to know his status with the team.

          • G_WallyHunter

            you’re right, this article isn’t all what he’s done either. I guess we’ll see in the coming weeks, I’m speaking too soon.

          • aub32

            What has he done? 2011 was for a different coach. A coach that was fired because of the poor way he handled the team resulting in a 4-12 season.

          • G_WallyHunter

            all the me-first stuff, sideline behaviour as Andy pointed out, holding out, being robbed for lots of cash, gun, jewels (relatively minor, but who knows what impact that had), talking about a more deserving contract after 1/6 seasons of getting over 1300 yards (3rd over 1000), just overall, wish he had an attitude more like McCoy

          • aub32

            Whoa whoa whoa, So you’re saying that DeSean getting robbed is his fault? I’m going to speak my peace, and then I am done.

            1. He was asked about a new contract. He didn’t just bring it up. He didn’t cause a fuss. He answered a question.

            2. Players hold out. That’s what they do. McCoy got his money in his 4th year. He didn’t have to hold out. You are crazy if you think McCoy was going to play his 4th year under his rookie deal.

            3. Yes he has gotten over 1330 yards once in his career, but let’s not act like he’s a one hit wonder. He averages more than 1000 yards a season. That’s including the season when he got injured and played only 11 games. He’s a 3 time pro bowler, and the only player in NFL history to be voted into the pro bowl for 2 positions. He has contributed both on offense an STs. So it’s not just one season.

            4. You want to compare him to McCoy? DeSean has done plenty of work off the field to help with bullying, cancer awareness, and donating both time and money to the military. You’re guy McCoy on the other hand gets into fights with his baby mother on twitter for the world to see, and happens to drop girls off on the middle of the turnpike for kicks.

            I wish you could try to explain how you’re justifying him being off of the team has anything to do with him as a player or person instead of you having some personal dislike of the guy.

          • Tikkit

            Just to piggyback on this: The eye test shows us that Desean could have topped 2k yards in this offense. QB shuffle and Nick being inexperienced missed some HUGE plays. We saw it a couple of times in just about every game. DeSean needs to go nowhere.

          • aub32

            Nothing against Foles, but had DeSean been with Brady or Rodgers, we might be referring to him as a top 5 guy. That’s not hyperbole. The guy can burn every single CB in the game and is a better than average route runner. His hands are also nice and probably the best on the team with Avant gone.

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, I want to see what he can do in year 2, not watch him catch TDs for the 9ers, Panthers, or Patriots.

          • G_WallyHunter

            No personal dislike, like I said, just thinking for greater good of the team.
            Justify him being off the team has to do with him as a person obviously, can’t argue that as a player, I’m just looking at it the same way this article is looking at it. Like I said, you’ve presented good points that I can’t really argue based on the angle I’m taking.

          • RIP illa

            An attitude more like McCoy??? Wholly Shite!!! Were you being serious?

          • G_WallyHunter

            attitude, not behaviours, McCoy has a fantastic on-field attitude, we aren’t talking about baby-momma fights and kicking women off a bus.. talking ON-FIELD attitude.. I should have been more specific I know

          • RIP illa

            His on the field attitude ain’t so great either. He’s a known shit talker who’s not afraid to speak his mind, whether his opinions are fact based or not. I don’t mind it either way, but to condemn DJax for his attitude and/or behavior and then exult others such as McCoy is little hypocritical for me.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya I guess Djax is just a little more vocal and public with his attitude, I know what ur sayin tho, I’ve heard about McCoys craptalking before

          • aub32

            He had one year with a bad attitude on the field. He was making less 700k, while Nnamdi signed a 60M deal. He’s 175lbs and plays a game where he gets hit by guys that would you and I curl into a ball and cry for our mothers. He wanted to get his money. How is that so hard to understand?
            ….
            In 2011, DJax was coming off of 2 consecutive pro bowl season. He had been our number 1 WR starting his rookie year and averaged over 1000 yards his first 3 years in the league. He wanted to get paid in his 4th year after missing time in his 3rd from a concussion due to an illegal hit. Shady on the other hand didn’t even start his rookie season. He had a good season to follow the pro bowl in his 3rd year. Going into his 4th year he was paid like one of the best RBs in the league. So no he didn’t hold out. Why would he. He proved himself and got paid. He didn’t have to sit back and watch everyone else get paid but him.

          • G_WallyHunter

            ya that clears up holding out. Couldn’t agree more

        • Eagledelphia

          But would they sufficiently replace him? Finding a receiver who can get you 1300 yards and 9 touchdowns isn’t as easy as everyone is making it out to be yes this draft is deep but that doesn’t mean that the front office can’t strike out and draft a bum either

        • Andy124

          I was literally just doing what you asked us to. :)

        • JofreyRice

          maybe. There are some really good players in the draft, but Desean’s become more than just a guy that runs fast. He’s a very underrated route-runner, and not everyone can track the ball the way he can, down the field.

          And then you get into the idea that if you flip him, you HAVE to replace him in the draft. Imagine a worst case scenario; Maclin’s not quite the same guy–was never a marquee #1, anyway–and whatever draft pick they try in the 2nd isn’t ready to contribute right away, takes time to adjust to the pro game. Then the Eagles #1 receiver is Riley Cooper.

          I’d much rather take ODB Jr., Donte Moncrief, or Allen Robinson as complementary pieces we don’t need to rely on as soon as they put on an NFL jersey.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Good points indeed, my opinion is changing as you put it like that. Would be playing it safe to keep him around for this year anyways (especially of ODB, Moncrief or Robinson or someone alike is taken)

          • JofreyRice

            There is always the possibility that there’s a lot going on behind the scenes. Everyone thought Buddy was nuts when he traded Chris Carter, but Carter probably wouldn’t be in the HOF, otherwise. I don’t know.

          • G_WallyHunter

            For sure, I wasn’t around for the Cris Carter days so wouldn’t know, but the coming weeks will tell a lot about what’s real about this situation and what is just a bunch of stupid chatter..

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, I didn’t put my credence into the Kempski thing–I thought he was just throwing shit at the wall to see what would stick. But Domowitch saying he knows it’s been talked about on the 2nd floor of Novakremlin means something to me. He’s a real reporter that wouldn’t just say that for page hits. And that’s more than just “they’ll listen to offers on any player”, that’s actively discussing the possibility of moving on.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Great point, I will be sad to see him go just hoping that his impact can be somewhat replaced. I’ve been convinced, mostly by aub, that there is a very very slim chance his impact gets replaced. These chatters though, like you said, are getting increasingly concerning considering some of their sources.

    • aub32

      No prob. You’re crazy. Talent is talent. His attitude is obviously not affecting his play. Show me a team full of Avant’s and I’ll show you a team that never makes the playoffs. He is our best WR. He’s a legit #1 who puts up #1 numbers. Imagine what this offense would have looked like without him last year.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Agreed, take him out and it would have looked really bad.
        But take him out and add Maclin and add Sproles and add a better Ertz and add a rookie WR?
        Doesn’t look as bad does it

        • aub32

          You mean Maclin that’s coming off of an ACL tear and still in rehab Maclin? You mean Maclin that’s never had a 1000 yards in a season Maclin? Keep in mind Mac would be lining up next to Coop. So who would get double covered in that situation? Are you still thinking that group looks nice?

          • NickS1

            It doesn’t look “as bad”.

          • G_WallyHunter

            well your guess is as good as mine with Mac. I’m obviously seeing him improving immensely in this system supporting the argument that ACL tears have come a long way.
            Group still looks great, single cover everyone and someone will get open

          • aub32

            Great? No offense, but I must again call you crazy. You are saying that a WR corp without a single 100 yard WR or pro bowler looks great. Can I please borrow your green shades? You realize we would once again be looking at Riley Cooper as the #2 without the fear of DJax helping him out. I love Ertz’s potential, but let’s not confuse ourselves into thinking he’s Jimmy Graham lite. Sproles is a nice piece, but he’s not demanding the attention that DJax warrants.

          • G_WallyHunter

            POTENTIAL AUB.
            Yes, it’s a little optimistic putting it like that.
            I’m more looking at Maclin, Sproles, Better Ertz, and possible 2nd round WR replacing the production of Desean…

          • aub32

            You still should be realistic. Look at the draft the last 5 years. How many WRs were drafted? How many of them have produced DeSean like numbers? I get wanting to be hopeful, but getting rid of a guy who has been the best WR on the team for the last half decade and just had his best year because he has a little bit of an attitude is silly.

          • G_WallyHunter

            You’ve presented points to change my opinion. It’s not like I want to get rid of the guy, like I said favourite eagle since he was drafted, I’m just looking at greater good and taking that angle.
            Coming weeks we will see, what Chip and Howie say to media, how Desean acts, will tell a lot. I hope he sticks around I just say that if he didn’t I’d understand why.

      • cliff henny

        you know I love d-jax, but it isn’t last yr. ACLs don’t scare Kelly. sproles and ertz developing, with Mac, even without Jax, offense will still be nasty. guess it depends what they get in return.

        • aub32

          Nasty? I disagree. Sproles is a nice piece, but he’s just a piece at this point. Sure he will be a matchup nightmare for Dallas and NY, but what about teams with good LBs like SEA and SF? We all like what we saw from Ertz late, but c’mon. He isn’t even our starting TE. Let’s please stop projecting him to have a pro bowl season. Also, even if Mac comes back at full strength, was he ever “nasty”? He’s good, but I wouldn’t but him near the “nasty” category until he can show he can be a #1 guy.

          • oreofestar

            We will still have a good offense but with DJAX who is NASTY!!! our offense needs to Desean to be nasty

          • aub32

            In my opinion, without DJax, our offense goes from potential top 3 to outside of the top 10.

          • oreofestar

            I think our we can have the best offense in the NFL next season, but if you trade Desean than that hope is shattered and it makes me wonder what was the point of investing so much in offense just to let your #1 pro bowl wr go

          • cliff henny

            still a run heavy team. Kelly isnt moving Jax with the idea offense is going in reverse. better be a hell of haul in picks, hand me SW or Evans on platter, plus more picks.

          • Andy124

            Barr

          • aub32

            Without DJax, what’s the over-under for how many players will be stacked in the box against this run first team?

          • cliff henny

            adding Sammy Watkins. this 2 2nd is garbage, he’s worth at least Harvin, probably more. add an Evans, plus trade down for 2nd,and a 3rd in trade, take Cooks with 22, then go LB nuts for 4 picks in 2nd and 3rd…i’m feeling ok about moving on from Jax.

          • aub32

            I like Evans and Watkins, but they have proven nothing. There are still guys saying both are overhyped. This isn’t like DJax has one more year and declining. He just had his best year, and I see no reason why he can’t improve. The guy could have easily had 1500+ and 12+ TDs with better QB play. For the record I am referring to both Foles and Vick, as they both missed him deep on multiple occasions.

          • G_WallyHunter

            This is the kind of analysis I can’t currently do, but this is what I’m talkin bout!

          • NickS1

            I didn’t think you liked Watkins. Did you re-evaluate that stance?

          • cliff henny

            I don’t, but I don’t run the Eagles. Sammy at 5, or Evans at 10 and another 2nd. it’s tough, cause i’m about 100% from trading him in AUB’s boat, but if Raiders want to give Harvin+ trade, there’s away I wouldn’t be furniture flipping pissed.

          • NickS1

            I’m with ya, now… In other news, how ’bout that Cowboys fan taking a page from your book and postin here like you do at “bloggingtheboys”…. guess he missed that great article from his local writer about the day the Dallas glory days ended.

          • cliff henny

            I threaten it, never done it. don’t get off on trolling. just trying to put a positive spin on this in my head.

          • NickS1

            Ah, thought you had done it once or twice. My misunderstanding.

          • cliff henny

            just like reading them wallowing in misery. there’s enough knowledgeable fans that make a point I would without me having to do it.

    • JofreyRice

      what has he done? Say he wanted guaranteed money once? I mean, seriously, that was the only thing that’s come out, publicly. And the demotion to third string, which seems to have been resolved, with a 1400 yard season in the rear-view.

      • Adam G

        Not that I think its that awful, but I suppose they didn’t like him being robbed so publicly of 325k worth of jewelry, cash, and a gun. Plus the instagram stuff. He certainly sticks out.

        • JofreyRice

          Yes, he does stick out. And I think that’s on purpose. He’s a ham. He’s also one of the most talented football players we have on offense. I’d hate to see them get rid of him for some instagram pictures. I’d really want there to be more to the story than just that.

          • cliff henny

            would you do a percy harvin like trade with Raiders? I can turn those picks into something I can swallow.

          • Adam G

            I said not that I think its awful. My guess its a totality of the circumstances. Sideline behavior, sulking, instagram, contract demands, salary, checking out of games sometimes, etc.

      • G_WallyHunter

        We could list everything over the years, just all the me-first behaviour, no need to get into specifics, he hasn’t changed. Like I said below, we will see in the coming weeks, I’m admittedly speaking too soon

      • Andy124

        Devil’s advocate:

        Bad body language on the sideline when the going gets tough. Who know if there’s more negativity behind the scenes than we’re prviy to.

        • JofreyRice

          I hear that, and I’m certainly allowing for the possibility of a lot of things happening behind the scenes, but from what I can judge, I’d think it would be so stupid to trade him away based on that.

          Not every receiver is Calvin Johnson or AJ Green-cool. Plenty of ink has been spilled about the one-on-one nature of the position, and how it inspires diva-behavior. Belichick–a guy who you’d picture wouldn’t have much patience for it–put up with it when it made his team better.

        • aub32

          So he’s upset when we are losing? That’s a bad thing. Anyone ever see how Steve Smith gets lauded for that behavior? I’d rather DJax be pissed than trying to get Rodgers’ autograph after the game.

          • Andy124

            Being pissed and being sulky are two different things. Wouldn’t you rather he rally the troops than sulk or vent on teammatescoaches?

            He’s the man in the WR corps now, but I don’t think anybody can confidently claim he fills a leadership role on that unit.

          • aub32

            I disagree. There are all type of leaders. DJax isn’t Avant, but that doesn’t mean he is incapable of leading. The guy is no slouch. He works his butt off. I am sure young WRs look up to him and say they want to be as good as DJax. Look the Tavon Austin’s coming into the league. You don’t think they see DJax as a role model. The guy is best at what he does for a guy his size. He does plenty of good off of the field. Most of his bad rep comes from the fact he wanted to start a rap label and one year where I think most fans can agree was completely mishandled by the coaching staff.

          • Andy124

            I think we have a different definition of leader.

          • RIP illa

            And this is what I don’t get. Why does he have to be a leader at all? Why can’t he just go and ball out. I’m sure there are a number of other players who can take the mantle of leader. Foles has to do so this year.

          • Andy124

            Agreed. The point is getting twisted though.

            The point was strictly a devil’s advocate response to “what has he done?” which was in reference to G_Wally’s “stupid attitude” comments.

            The response was bad body language on the sideline and possibly behind the scenes stuff. Aub replied with who cares if he’s upset on the sideline. Then my retort was that there’re better ways to be. The fact that he’s not a leader was just accentuating his less-than-ideal behavior on the sideline at times. These are the things that lead people to criticize his attitude. That’s all I’m saying.

            Do I think that makes him a liability or that we should trade him? Hell no. Do I think the team thinks that? No, I don’t think that either.

            But if you’re going to stretch your imagination to wonder why the team could sour on him, this is what I’ve got. Hell, there could be so much behind the scenes we don’t know about. What if he doesn’t work as hard as we think? What if he’s stomping his feet and crying about how Vick should be the QB? What if he’s passive agressive in practice, not doing enough to merit being benched, but making life harder on coaches and such over stupid shit?

          • RIP illa

            Got it. And I can’t disagree with the last paragraph.

          • aub32

            I agree that I have seen nothing publicly that warrants the team not wanting him there. You are also right about us not know what happens behind the scenes. However, I would argue that unless DJ is greeting CK with a punch in the face each morning and pantsing Roseman, that the behind the scenes stuff can’t be that bad. So what if he really does want Vick. Chip supposedly has an open door policy where players can speak their mind. He’s still saying all the right things to the media about Vick, Kelly, Foles, and the system. Also his production speaks for itself.

          • Andy124

            Honestly, I don’t see how pantsing Roseman could be seen as anything but a positive.

      • stamtown

        Yeah – doesn’t seem like the best time to poke the bear when you’ll be left with maclin off an ACL, cooper, and nothing else. Why do love ruining talented receivers in philly?

  • JofreyRice

    haha, they re-signed Nate Allen!

    • G_WallyHunter

      gtfo

    • Richard Colton

      Jenkins/Wolff backed up by Allen/Maragos. Doesn’t excite me. Doesn’t preclude them drafting someone either. If nothing else, we’ll be spared the “Eagles must address Safety position” lazy mock drafts. Tired of only seeing Pryor’s name in 90% of them.

      • GEAGLE

        Can’t wait to watch that wimp run down field on ST team…hope he doesn’t Chip a nail

      • JofreyRice

        agreed. With the way they set themselves up, it’s really not a bad move. Either him or Clemons, really, were the best available.

  • Weapon Y

    Is it possible that the Eagles are bluffing, and DeSean is in on it, to make other teams think they’re going to take a wide receiver in the draft and create a smokescreen?

  • Eagles1018

    Nate the great is back!!

    I’m kidding about the “great” part but I’m happy he’s back. You don’t wanna put it on Wolff to be that dude just yet and I’m sure they will still draft someone. Anyone know terms on the deal?

    • Uncle Wonder

      One year…prolly just above vet min

  • NickS1

    Nate’s back. Guess we’re drafting a safety early.

    • Richard Colton

      Probably means we’re trading Desean Jackson.

      • Andy124

        lol

      • NickS1

        Heard we’re trading Foles. That’s from a source whom I find credible but doesn’t have any links to the Eagles.

        • Andy124

          We can afford to. We’ll get Logan Thomas. He’s perfect for a Chip Kelly offense.

          • NickS1

            He is. But, Barkley is ready and we’ll probably trade up to target Manziel.

    • GEAGLE

      Oh god…I been dying for news, and this is what they hit me with?

    • Adam G

      Ha, one year one mill. At least they didn’t overpay.

      • NickS1

        If it weren’t the league minimum there’d be a case that they did, lol.

      • cliff henny

        F, I hope I never hear his name on the field. surprised he cam back to philly.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    Ah no. Not you too, Tim. These Jackson rumors are the dumbest thing your colleagues on the beat have concocted in some time. I was hoping you and Sheil would be immune to it. Guess not.

    • JofreyRice

      My initial take was that it was much ado about nothing, too. I was surprised when I saw Domo’s thing about the 2nd floor of the Novacare, because he’s been covering the Eagles for the DN for like 20 years. I think he’s a hall of fame voter. Don’t think he’d say what he said lightly.

    • All Things Bad@ss

      Where are you at in SoCal brother?

  • Will

    Nate Allen resigned…Arrggg…one year deal…

    • Token

      .

  • PaoliBulldog

    The Seahawks gave up a first, third and seventh round pick for a banged-up Harvin. D-Jax would fetch more than that.

    • RIP illa

      Should

      • Andy124

        Gotta find someone willing to pay that. Not everybody is willing to screw up that bad. Hershal WalkerRicky Williams type trades don’t happen that often.

        • RIP illa

          Then you don’t make the trade…period. Told you before, this whole thing is beyond stupid and the way they are handling it, and have always handled DJax, is F’d up.

          • Andy124

            Preaching to the choir buddy.

      • cliff henny

        mean that’s only way I can wrap my head around trading Jax. handing Eags Evans C JOnes and KVN plus still having eagles current picks.

        • RIP illa

          I don’t like the idea of trading DJax, sure. However, if he is to be traded then the value has to be great. That means from the draft picks to the prospects picked. It cannot fall short at any point. That’s a fine line to walk and I have no faith in Roseman to be able to do so. I have no faith in this organization to be able to do so. Granted different Regimes, but this club has a really bad history of letting quality to great players go, and on top of that, not being able to adequately fill the voids left behind. Decades worth of evidence.
          So yes I do make the trade for the right price, but that price is gonna be extremely high.

          • cliff henny

            yeah, i’m starting asking for the farm, equipment, livestock and the daughters, will settle for 3 out of the 4. cant trade d-jax for 2nds, or middle of 1st rdr. I would 100% need SW or Evans handed to me, then a lot more. F, 4.2 speed, 1400 yds, the damn secondary finding him every time he breaks the huddle dictating coverage doesn’t grow on trees. issue is, some people just don’t like the package it’s being delivered in.

          • aub32

            You forgot to mention the 1 or 2 missteps that defenders take when he fakes an end around or punters trying everything to avoid him.

    • GEAGLE

      Teams probably stingier with this years pics then last years

      • RIP illa

        Either way, that should be the starting point. If a team is not willing to pay more or at least that, then the FO should tell them to go F off. But hey, who knows…The FO is foolishly not communicating with our best WR and making sure things stay smooth, regardless if the rumors are true or not, so they may do something as stupid as take less value for a top WR in the league. Plus in addition to the unfounded retarded Maclin love the FO expresses year in and year out.

        • GEAGLE

          If the raiders combine report was true, they offered two twos

          • RIP illa

            And if I was the FO I would tell the Raiders, that I shake my “Richard” at two twos!!!

          • oreofestar

            I would tell those bastards your 5 of get the hell out of my face

          • GEAGLE

            If it was true, This early in the offseason, I’m sure it was an initial lowball tactics (starting point for trade negotiations)

          • GEAGLE

            Especially since I’m not sure they have two twos this year which would mean 1 two now, 1 two next year which is even worse

          • Richard Colton

            Easy there

    • Adam G

      And I’m sure they regret that trade plus giving him that contract.

  • GEAGLE

    Gamble was at wake Forrest pro day this morning…isn’t Louisville pro day today also?

    • cliff henny

      campanaro

    • NickS1

      Yeah, don’t worry, Mayock will be there.

  • GEAGLE

    Jenk,Wolff! Nate….allows us to draft Lamarcus Joyner or Ward of we want

    • Eagledelphia

      I sincerely hope they do draft one of those two their cover skills will really help out this defense but then again anyone not named Chung would be an improvement in that department

    • Will

      You forgot Maragos/Johnson….I doubt they draft a Safety this year….that’s five players not what we the fans hoped for by hey Jenkins/Maragos/Allen/Wolff/Johnson they figure they are good at the Safety spot now…no need to draft one till next year….

      • GEAGLE

        I can’t count on maragos being a safety we can play in games. Until I see him play for myself, I’m assuming he is Colt anderson. But hey, it’s not like he sit the bench behind bums…maybe the kid can play. I just can’t count on it…I hate Nate! but on some level we can count on him being thrown into a game

        • Vet Linc

          You can’t count on it.

          WTF does that mean and how the hell does it impact this thing we call reality?

  • Scrunt

    <>

    The point is the Eagles could end those speculations by saying the rumors are untrue and reassuring Desean. They haven’t. Lets not blame the media on this one. Put the blame where it belongs.

  • Andy124

    Fair warning, IF the trade were to occur (which it won’t), I’ll immediatly start looking for the silver lining. Better than being miserable. :)

    • Will

      Ditto….

    • GEAGLE

      There are no problems…only solutions

      • Corey

        What are solutions without problems? lol

        • GEAGLE

          Chicken before the egg? Are we,really about to go down that road :)

          • Corey

            Haha, just saying if problems didn’t exist, a solution wouldn’t be called a solution, it would be an occurrence.

          • Andy124

            It’s just a Lennon quote.

            Besides, I prefer:
            There are no obstacles, only opportunities.

          • NickS1

            There is no spoon.

  • RIP illa

    Good article Tim. The difference between your style and other “journalist” is much appreciated. Love how you did not jump on and into the speculation, but rather you sat back, observed, and then reported on what’s going on from varying points of view. That’s quality.

  • Will

    wonder how cheap Nate Allen signed for any one know contract details?

    • Adam G

      1 yr 1 mill.

    • G_WallyHunter

      1 million LOL

      • GEAGLE

        No way? Is that serious? Wow it is true…how pathetic

        • G_WallyHunter

          1 year 1 mil yup, according to roto, what a bargain

          • GEAGLE

            LOL….smh Poor Nate didn’t find any love? So it’s not just us who is the big bad wolf and is hard on him

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya lol as I said few days ago it was funny that Kurt, Colt, Nate weren’t getting ANY love on the open market…
            Howie was like “Alright Nate, we have a max of 1 million to give you, go out and play and if you don’t find that come back for a million”… and he didn’t find it! surprised.. I thought his resurgence last year would at least get him a million? Guess not.
            Special teams here he comes

        • PDidIt

          I take it you make millions annually.

          • oreofestar

            What is with the attacks man, He is talking about someone who is may be a staritng nfl safety who sign for less than we just spent on some ST player that will never see defensive snaps

        • Vet Linc

          What are you commenting on? One of your own posts??

          • Andy124

            You’ve got 28 posts. I’d guess at least 20 of them are all about insulting Geagle. It’s really one of the saddest things I’ve seen.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Signed for $2mm

  • cliff henny

    200+ comments…and that’s why this is being tossed around. not blasting PM 24/7 writers, but this is what moves the fan base.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I thought that as I was reading the article.. the title says it all.
      Hey, at least its damn near perfect quality, regardless of the angle or approach it takes. Can always rely on that

  • Clifford

    Why can’t everyone just relax with all of the speculation. Desean Jackson is an offensive threat. Without him out receiving core is average no questions asked. We have cap space if he plays well we pay him if not then we move him it’s that damn simple sheesh people relax for a second. Everyone in the NFL wants security so Deseans situation is no different so let the man just keep playin good football

  • Chris Jones

    While I think there is a slim to none chance Jackson is traded this year I can see why some in the eagles organization are concerned about him. He’s the kind of guy who loves the flash and is a me first player, I had suspected he just wasn’t mature after about 2 years ago but when I saw him blow up on bicknell during the Vikings game it was apparent he is still not the leader or role model we need in the locker room. The guy just seems to be more concerned with his rap label and acting like a gangster. Don’t get me wrong he’s perfect for this system and extremely talented but i don’t believe he’s irreplaceable

    • RIP illa

      Dumbest comment by far!!! Yeah…no great or good WR has ever had a blow up on the sideline. Yeah…just too focused on his rap career and being a gangster!!! It’s a shame how those things stop him, how they hold him back from producing on the field and putting up great numbers!!!

    • aub32

      This comment is just ignorant. You are basing it on nothing. When has DJax ever acted like a gangster? Please site a time where he had an off the field issue because he was acting like a gangster. Please do us all a favor and keep your ignorance to yourself.

    • ztom6

      not giving Jackson enough credit by half. Despite his side projects, he came to camp last year in the best shape of his life. He’s also never had any off-field drama with the law or with women and children. I agree he comes across as immature at times, but ripping him for “acting like a gangster” is just stupid.

  • Corey

    I’ve always loved Jackson, but if you can get a top 15 pick in this draft, you make it happen immediately.

    • Adam G

      Everybody has a price.

    • oreofestar

      Even with 6mil in dead money, I mean are you sure you are getting a pro bowl wr which Desean is..

      • Corey

        I hate advocating it, but I would easily accept such a valuable pick. You could argue DeSean isn’t going to stay elite much longer and may never match the season he had last year, his value is at an all time high.

        • aub32

          What is that argument based on? I could argue the sun won’t come up tomorrow. You are basing an argument on absolutely nothing, and the fact is that all evidence points to the likelihood that DJax will be even better next year.

          • Corey

            I want to keep DeSean, but I doubt Roseman goes into this draft with only six picks and we have nothing else of value to trade. Maybe get a 4-5 for Graham/Brown/Curry.

            He probably has 2-3 years of elite talent left, but would you rather trade him now for a 1st or on the downslide for a 3rd? Do you know how old the sun is? Pretty old, it wouldn’t shock me if it failed to rise tomorrow, haha

    • aub32

      That makes little sense. There’s no guarantee the top 15 pick will pan out. Even if they do, how many players are 3 time pro bowlers and give DJax’s consistent level of production?

      • Corey

        That production level dipped for financial reasons, you could argue he was justified in protecting himself from injury, but it really speaks to his me first money first attitude, not that it hurt his stats last year.

        • aub32

          Even is we argued that 2011 hurt his stats, he has still averaged over 1000 yards per year over his entire career.

      • Adam G

        If you think that doesn’t make sense, you are not factoring in how cheap a pick is for 4 years.

        • aub32

          Money is not the issue. Who cares how much a guy makes if he has the production to make up for it. If we draft a guy who can only produce 3/4 of what DJax gives us, do you really care that he’s making less? You can’t buy a SB.

          • Adam G

            Money is most certainly an issue. As it stands right now they are over the cap in 2015. There is not a neverending supply, the cap is a constraint, therefore you have to maximize the value you get. You need guys to outplay their contracts or you won’t win. He certainly hasn’t done that, at the most he’s played up to it, and even that is stretching it.

          • aub32

            You mean to say we are over the cap in 2015 that still has Cole, Herremans, CW, Casey, and Graham all making big money? Do you really think that when 2015 comes that the players I listed are going to see that money? That’s 30M in cap space. That’s not including the 10M or that Ryans may get cut or restructured. Money is never a factor when keeping your best players. Look at the Saints. Teams keep and acquire who they want and don’t cut one of their top 3 players due to cap reason……well every team not managed by JJ.

          • Adam G

            Still have to replace all those guys, maybe not Casey. Do you not agree that you have to have guys outplay their contract to win a Super Bowl? Also, look at the Ravens. Think they learned the hard way what happens when you overpay your own stars.

          • aub32

            Yes. Guys like Brees and Rodgers will never be paid what they are worth. That doesn’t mean that players should have to take less than what their value is. If you ask me, I think DJax is underpaid. Would I pay him more? Not if I can help it, but the guy makes this offense go. I love McCoy, but he would have a hard time becoming the league’s leading rusher if he had to deal with 8 and 9 man fronts. As far as replacing those guys, we can draft guys to replace their production. I think it would be far easier to replace CW or Graham than DJax. Not one of the guys I mentioned are worth keeping over DeSean. Even Cole in his prime was not as valuable as DJax is to this offense.

          • Adam G

            We can argue about what overpaid/underpaid is, but I view it as hypothetical value on the open market. If Chip felt the same way as you, this whole thing would not even be happening so obviously your opinion is different than Chips. BTW, I’m assuming all the smoke has some merit, which I know is an assumption.

          • aub32

            The only merit I see is that Birds 24/7 was able to fabricate a story based on no evidence or actual witness that produced 500+ comments. I highly doubt the Nate Allen resigning is getting this much attention. The only reason I am even bother to comment is because some people don’t realize what trading DJax would mean. I have already convinced one fan that the odds of us benefitting from any trade scenario are so low that it’s not even worth discussing. Maybe you to can see the light.

          • Adam G

            How do you explain a handful of beat writers hearing the same thing? Is that all fabricated? These rumors seems to have some merit. Which means Chip just doesn’t agree with your logic.

          • aub32

            You mean the handful of beat writers that have nothing to report on until May? What did they hear. There was talk about DJax and a trade on the 2nd floor? For all we know the conversation could have been “Are you high? There’s no way we are trading DeSean! Good day sir!”

          • Adam G

            Well, that’s a whole lot of confirmation that there are rumors. I guess the real discussion is why the Eagles would leak that, because it is all done on purpose. Even Mort heard that they were shopping him and he wasn’t writing a story, just answering a question. So either they are actually trying to shop him, or just want to gain some leverage when renegotiating his contract.

    • Trey Warner

      Or try to get a 2nd and 3rd rounder….I don’t see too many potential stars in the top 15 in the draft but there is a lot of potential starters in the later rounds this year

  • Scott J

    “Hello Andy, this is Howie…”

  • Uncle Wonder

    Looks like Nate actually signed 1yr/$2mm + 1mm LTBE…could be $3mm all told.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Trade him

  • Republicans_Sux

    Wishful thinking 1 & 2 Round picks please.

    Again its WISHFUL thinking

    • oreofestar

      Wishful thinking….don’t trade him

  • Tommy McCabe Jr

    The writing seems to be on the wall with this one. Looking at the Eagles roster as it stands, there are only two guys under 6′ 185 at WR or TE. Djax at 5’10” 175 and Demaris Johnson at 5′ 8″ 170 (Demaris look like hes gone with the acquisition of Sproles). Kelly already stated Big people beat little people. With Monsters like 6’5 240 Kelvin Benjamin, 6’5″ 231 Mike Evans and 6’6″ 225 Brandon Coleman all running in the 4.5-4.6 range (yes that’s fast when you 6’5″+) sitting in the draft pool, ya gotta wonder if these rumors are becoming truth.

    • Uncle Wonder

      you dont think production trumps hypothetical metrics?

      • Tommy McCabe Jr

        I believe in spoken words suck as “Big people beat little people” Kelly likes big players. I believe in the fact that they tried to trade Jackson since last years draft. I also believe in stats trumping said production. Maclin has been the #1 in terms of stats the whole time so technically they’ve been trying to replace the #2. From 2009-2012, the 4 years the 2 played together, Maclin had more receptions on more targets for more TDs. Don’t get me wrong, I like DJax, but as I stated, the writing is on the wall. When ya pay attention to reports ya start to understand what they mean.

    • JosephR2225

      Seems silly to me to create a hole in your roster then hope you can fill it in the draft.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Not to mention we just traded for Sproles primarily as a receiver…I was his height in middle school

    • JofreyRice

      I like Mike Evans, but if he puts up 1300 yards in either of his first 2 years in the league, I’ll eat my hat. Some really smart people like Kelvin Benjamin’s potential, but I see a guy that’s a little sluggish in his breaks without great hands, and without much of a college resume.

      Coleman’s just a huge guy and good athlete that may or may not turn into an NFL wide receiver.

      None of those guys are at Jackson’s level, in the way they affect a game.

      If these were all just prospects, I’d probably be inclined to go with the bigger guys, too, but Jackson’s proven he can play in the NFL at a near all-pro level. I’d have a really tough time trading away someone that talented on a team that has very few superstars, and a lot of “good” and “solid” players.

    • cliff henny

      makes sense, but besides Evans, it’s not and either/or deal. Eagles will have a shot at all those guys, plus others with size. I cant get there on trading Jax unless you are putting a Sammy Watkins or Mike Evans on the table plus a 3rd. Harvin like trade.

      • aub32

        Harvin wasn’t coming off of his best year. Harvin also had a history with migraines. Harvin has also only eclipsed 900 yards once in his career and never had a 1000 yard season. My point is that justifying trading Harvin makes much more sense than trading DJax. That’s without even mentioning how much Ponder regressed when he no longer had Harvin to complete those easy passes to.

        • cliff henny

          for a D-jax trade to work for me, 1st, i’d have to see Mac run like he’s 21 again,and that’s after getting hit in side of the knee by a tire-iron. then lay about 3 studs on a platter for me, even then i’m still not sold, cause we all know stud draft picks =/= stud NFL player.

          • aub32

            Exactly. DeSean isn’t old, and there was at least 500+ yards left on the field that could have been had with better throws. I think it would be hilarious if DJax got traded and found himself with a top 5 QB. Eagles fans would be crying about how we allowed him to leave while our big, tall WR looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

  • oreofestar

    My thing with Desean is because of the dead money and lack of a true replacement I say you keep him this year and then net year f a rookie like Evans, Adams or ODB was on fire for us and Maclin, Ertz and everyone improved then I would think about shopping him next year(I personally wouldn’t but I know by the day I am in a shrinking minority)

    • aub32

      I thinks it’s crazy that we are in the minority for keeping Jackson. It’s like fans here just want a big, tall, and fast guy, while ignoring what Jackson is doing. He may not have the look, but if DJax looked like Evans and put up the exact same stats no one would be complaining.

      • Eagles4Life

        This all seems idiotic to me. I really hope it isn’t true.

  • Tom W

    Aside from the media drive rumors, it would be a HORRIBLE time to trade djax because the draft is historically loaded at wr …. like 12-13 deep at first-second round talent … …. list of suitors shrinks … need shrinks … shit a guy like james jones and sanders could barely get deals and decker got weak money …..

    There are teams who would be interested in a wr, just don’t know if they would want djax. he is young and very good. top 15 wr. more so a team that doesn’t land free agents. and the dead money thing is a bit of misnomer bc we could take the hit we have the space w ease.

    Raiders, KC, Chargers (cap), Jags, browns, JETS, pats, bills, niners (cap), rams, panthers (cap).

    • oreofestar

      I mean if the Raiders were willing to give us 2 2nds and we turned it down which I would as well, then I do not know a lot of teams who will be lining up to give more

      • Adam G

        That’s completely unconfirmed. We don’t even know if that actually happened.

        • oreofestar

          I did say if…

    • JofreyRice

      great point. Guys like Decker and Hakeem Nicks didn’t have nearly the market they expected. NFL clubs aren’t dumb. You may not get a sure think like Jackson in the draft, but you can definitely get a young starter you like a hell of a lot. No one’s giving up a first for Jackson; I’d guess a 2nd is the best we’re looking at.

      So trading Jackson for a second rounder because you don’t like his sideline mannerisms, instagram pictures and that he got robbed? Seems like a very bad move.

      • Adam G

        Doesn’t that mean that he’s overpaid then?

        • JofreyRice

          If he were negotiating his contract this year, maybe, but his numbers last year were up there with Calvin Johnson & Josh Gordon, in terms of productivity and explosiveness. I’m not sure if it’s just about money, he couldn’t command something similar. Draft picks are another story, especially in what’s been ballyhooed as such a deep draft.

          It could be that they want to negotiate him down–they do have some leverage for that, can convert some of that salary into guaranteed bucks he’d see now, at the cost of a smaller overall dollar figure. Maybe they are anticipating him balking. In that scenario. Once that happened, they’d probably have created a toxic situation where they’d have to trade him.

          They’re fine in overpaying for DeMeco Ryans, and they aren’t in any trouble with the cap. Ryans’ best days are behind him–there is no way he brings as much in terms of effect on a game as Desean Jackson. To put it simply, in this offense, hitting his stride, I’ve got to think he’s more valuable to the Eagles than he’d be worth in trade.

          • Adam G

            Demeco will not be seeing that money next year and I think some of this talk with Desean has to do with them knowing they have to do something, so maybe trading him now is the way to extract the most value instead of having to cut him next year. And his production didn’t come close to Megatron or Josh Gordon. Look at their per game stats, they are far superior, especially Gordon, who did it with a horrendous QB situation. I think if Gordon was in this offense he would break every record.

          • JofreyRice

            Gordon is an awesome player, but so is Jackson. Jackson’s numbers in terms of yards per route run, deep passing, drop %, forced missed tackles all stack up favorably against those two. Agreed they are both much more dominating physical presences, and both have an edge in the raw numbers, but it’s much closer than you’re allowing for here, in terms of wide receiver productivity. Those guys play for teams where they’re the main attraction. I’d argue that the Eagles offense runs through Shady more than Foles and Jackson.

          • Adam G

            I just can’t see how DJax is anywhere near Gordon. That guy had some absurd games even when he was double teamed. He could be considered best WR right now, even higher than Megatron.

          • aub32

            DJax was lined up next to Cooper and Avant. Who do you think was getting double covered in that lineup?

          • Adam G

            You cannot compare Gordon’s situation to Djax. Look at the other WRs and more importantly the QB.

          • aub32

            I think Gordon and Megatron are a stretch, but he was top 10 in yards, rec. of 20+, avg yards per catch, and just outside the top 10 in TDs.

          • NickS1

            If the Eagles didn’t have a great run game, played from behind every game, and DJ was the #1 option on a team with only two offensive options, he would’ve put up bigger numbers.

      • phillylove21

        Honestly I believe the 49ers would give up there first rounder and a Fourth, but who in the hell wants to do that? He’s only going to get better.. If there is a possibility, I see the niners getting him.. No receiver that can get complete separation, but my question is, who will we get with that damn pick? Is it worth it?

  • Zack Scott

    The off season has been great thus far, and then people have to go and say some stupid shit like this.

    • phillylove21

      Exactly how I was feeling after reading this…… WTH!

      • Zack Scott

        If they traded Jackson this year, my whole view on chip and Howie will change. Its not the time to let your biggest threat down field go. I would officially see the front office as the anti-eagles

      • Zack Scott

        Someone needs to call this kid and tell him Whatsup. Not just for him but for how the rest of the team looks at this garbage. Talking about we want chemistry on and off the field? Well then WTF are you doing.

        • phillylove21

          Very true.. Its really bad when you have to hear something like this and the main source haven’t communicated with you on this matter.. He should be notified any possibility.. But honestly think the eagles want to trade him to gain two wide outs from the draft to give them younger depth.. Just like seeing desean wide open all the damn time and now who will get that separation like this guy?

  • PhillySean

    Click bait.

  • Todd

    I read those articles. They have as much truth in them as US Congress. ZERO. The writers are bored and want to stir the pot as far as I can tell. There is no evidence to support any of this wild, baseless speculation. Don’t believe any of it. So what if he doesn’t get along with everyone? So what if his personality is hard to take in the locker room, (that’s third hand information at best). He can help them win and get to the Super Bowl. There isn’t another receiver available out there that can do what he does, period. No way Kelly gets rid of him.

    If feels like the National Enquirer when I read a story like this. But hey, he is getting traffic.

  • Teddy

    I actually like the idea of making him believe he’s being traded makes him work harder to prove he’s worth when he comes back it’s like free competition with out spending the money for a body to compete

    • Andy124

      Or it makes him resentful that he gets treated that after how hard he’s worked and how productive he’s been, causing him to check out, hurting the team on the field and crushing his potential trade value.

      • Eagles4Life

        Exactly. If this is a “game” by the FO, I don’t see how this ends will. If we are really looking at trading him, the logic and result better be out of this world good. On its face, it looks dumb right now. Really dumb.

  • James E Sullivan

    Keep the team together. The Eagle’s Brain Trust must think about its fan base and not revisit the mistakes of the past. Jackson is what he is, and we know he is durable, a constant threat to go all the way whenever he touches the ball, still in his prime, and passionate about football. Whatever it takes, keep the club together, get back into the playoffs and see where it goes. Go Eagles!!!

  • Notanoracle

    C’mon. This is a professional organization. Jackson’s attitude is a negligible factor if his behavior meets and exceeds the organization’s expectations. Many players have big egos, or they wouldn’t rise to the level they’re at. So, behavior: Is there anything he is doing wrong or not doing that he should be doing in his playing? I leave the answer to those who watch more closely than I. Receptions and yards are fine. Is he dogging it on blocking? Avoiding contact? Avoiding risk?
    Next question: It appears the organization is happy to let speculation on Jackson’s future run amok. Does anyone think this is because they want Jackson’s behavior to change?
    Next question: Jackson said he went and talked to Kelly when he found himself running with the second team last summer. So why doesn’t he just pick up the phone now?

    • aub32

      Thee is nothing wrong with his on the field play. He has no problem with drops, and he blocks to the best of his ability.

  • will

    Seriously we cant SERIOUSLY think about trading away our #1 WR. Lets not forget all the things he’s done for this organization ppl

  • kstagg

    Or maybe, like when they had understandably had him practice with the 2nd and 3rd string receivers, they’re wanting to show him a little more humility. That he is by no means a “sure thing”. That no one is above the realm of being traded. That this whole “give me a raise before end of my contract” – which he bitches about almost every year – bullshit – has got to stop. Kelly won’t put up with that shit like Reid did.

    • Nfl All Day

      He didn’t bitch about wanting a raise. A reporter asked him about it and he basically said sure I’d like a new deal. What these guys want more than anything is to have their non guaranteed money converted to signing bonus that can’t be taken away. NFL deals are written the same paper Inspector Gadget used to get his assignments on.

      • aub32

        I love the inspector gadget analogy. I will definitely be stealing that one.

  • Angel Espinoza

    DeSean go back to Cali and be a Raider like he belongs. DeSean, Streater, maybe Marquise Lee and Derek Carr?!? Raiders would be Raiding the air!!!

  • Na Cl

    Create a news story by repeating rumors and then report it. This is not journalism by any stretch of the imagination.

    • RIP illa

      Reading Comprehension my friend. He’s actually acknowledging the fact that there are rumors that are being created and spread…What he is reporting is the lack of effort made to quell these rumors and the lack of communication between the FO and the player whose involved!!! Sounds like journalism to me. But hey, what do YOU know!!!

  • Pink-Postit

    Old story.

  • Yes_General

    Desean is a pro bowl talent against low ranked defenses. Look it up, he disappears against teams that find ways to hit him more. I support the team in any direction they see fit. We havent won a superbowl with Reids philosophy so if Chip Kelly believes that his number1 receiver should be bigger, stronger and capable of receiving consistent back shoulder passes, able to dominate the slot, Yards after contact etc then i support that 100%

    • aub32

      So you’r saying that good defenses do better against DeSean than bad ones. Wow! What an analysis. However, I think I can top you. I think if you look at the numbers of every top receiver that they all tend to drop when facing better competition.

  • aub32

    I find it so funny that so many of you are arguing that Kelly would prefer Evans over DJax. Size is not the only thing that matters. If DJax had his same stat line but was 6’3 230, many of you would be screaming how foolish it would be to trade one of the top 10 WRs in the league, but instead because Jackson doesn’t fit the look of a #1 some of you think it’s ok to trade him out for some rookie who has done nothing in the NFL.

  • Yes_General

    Again these are not rumors. Anyone can see how desean disappears late in the season when the games matter more and how he stacked his ‘probowl’ season against teams with back up QB’s and low ranked defenses. FYI the Eagles are bringing in Mike Evans for a visit before any top ranked OLB and Safety. I’m sure this doesnt mean anything. Right? ~Sarcasm~

    • aub32

      Does DeSean throw the ball to himself now? Our QB underperformed in big games and so did his production as a result.

      • RIP illa

        Dude don’t even try. I thought I had found the dumbest comment of the day, awhile ago but this dude just went full blown retard!!!

        • Nfl All Day

          Stop it. That comment was right on point. Foles is gonna be great, but if you’re gonna tell us he didn’t come up short vs. Minn, Dal,and NO, you’re nuts.

          Everyone wants Henery’s head for the Saints game, but nobody ever mentions the 11 yd sack Foles took on 2nd down, knocking them out of chipshot range. Kickers gotta make the play, yes. But the QB can’t stand in the pocket for 6 seconds and not get rid of the football, taking huge losses. The QB, despite all the GREAT things he did, has A LOT of growing up to do.

          • aub32

            I think he was defending me.

          • RIP illa

            Lmao. I thought so too. Not so sure now :-)

          • Nfl All Day

            Im on edge kickin the cat. My bad.

          • RIP illa

            No worries. So am I. Gotta deal with people who completely missed and/or misconstrued the whole point of the article, to people who can’t even acknowledge how good DJax is, to people who just make up their own shit to fix their bias and completely disregard context and facts!!!

          • aub32

            I’m right there with you brother

  • Mr. Wu

    This smells like BS to me.Love this blog I read it several times a day and is always my first stop for anything Eagles. No disrespect to Tim but this is reminiscent of the “story” TMac broke a few years back about Djax starting his record label and how he would become a problem for the eagles when he squandered all his money away on jewels and champagne as a rap mogul.
    If this is a real story and its evident then fine. But most of us loyal 24/7ers come here to avoid this type of lazy hyperboyle and TMZ reporting. I don’t need a PFT Philly branch….there is a national version of that

    • aub32

      Amen!!!

  • Vet Linc

    Nobody on the team cares about media reports….fans do because that’s who the media markets to….players don’t give a dump.

  • Jay Grace

    Keep him baby

  • Goombachiphi

    no no no! keep DeSean. Rework his deal if he’s too expensive add a little guaranteed money skim a little off the total. Last season he was worth every dime, I see no reason why it won’t be the same this year.

  • WorldPh_ingChamps

    I want everyone to think about these facts before you try to say DeSean is worth all of the money and security that he wants. It could easily be argued that his worth is largely based on the attention that defenses have to give him which opens up the other receivers. Well, now, we have Maclin back and Sproles to spread the field. Not to mention that DeSean is getting older and the only asset (his speed) is going to diminish over the next few years. He doesn’t block (Kelly demands this of receivers) and he doesn’t “sell” his routes if he knows he’s not getting the ball (which means if he’s not selling it, the D knows they can drop coverage on him and cheat elsewhere.)
    1) DeSean had 1332 yards on the season, 774 of which came in 5 games, nearly 400 came in 2 games. Which means that in 11 other games, he had less than 600 yards.
    2) He had 82 catches, 7 of which he had 5 or more for 52 catches, one of which was a 10 catch game against Vikes. The other 9 games he totaled 30 catches, all were less than 5 catches. He averaged more catches and yards in 6 LOSSES (almost 6 catches and 90 yds per game) than he did in 10 wins (almost 5 catches for 76 yards.) This also lends that his best value is just as a threat, but if he isn’t “selling” the routes then there is no point in him being on the field……my point is, sell high.

    • RIP illa

      SMH. Stopped at he doesn’t block!!! Complete fabricated BS. He has proven to be a better blocker than Mac. Facts are Great!!!

      • aub32

        It’s so funny to read some of these comments from people I have never seen post on this site. They should probably stick to not posting instead of making us all look bad.

        • cliff henny

          DLP…don’t like packaging.

          • aub32

            I saw that comment below. I think you are right.

        • Adam G

          Didn’t know there were requirements to post. I’ll stop now.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah there are.
            1) Don’t be a complete idiot by making up your own stupid incorrect facts to prop up your argument.
            2) If your not sure on something, just say so instead of going to number one.
            3) Don’t troll.
            4) Don’t be a grammar Nazi
            5) Number 1 again!!!

          • Adam G

            I’m in the clear then.

          • RIP illa

            Cool.

          • aub32

            I love number 5

          • aub32

            I think at the very least one could have their facts straight before posting. You have to have internet access to post. So the very least some people could do is google before spewing ignorance all over a page that has pretty regular and knowledgeable posters. Just typing rhetoric or lies just because you have a bias against a guy should be done elsewhere. Now if new posters would like to have a football discussion based on actual football reasoning, welcome to the fam. I often get into with plenty of the regulars here, which is pretty fun, but they can actually form football arguments…….most of the time. Lastly, everything I just said is not directed at you. There are some really foolish comments on this page of which I would not accuse you of being part of.

          • Adam G

            I don’t think my arguments have been based on rhetoric or lies, and I have not been one to call out Desean for his behavior. I don’t think its that bad. The discussion that we have had between us has been based solely on production and value. I certainly have no bias against Desean.

          • aub32

            That’s why I said my comment wasn’t directed to you. Had I felt that way, I would not have gone back and forth about the money debate. You just happened to bring up requirements. So I was expounding upon what I think people should and should not do to keep this the best possible blogs for us fans. I was not intending to include you in the rhetoric category, which was the point of my last couple of sentences.

          • Maggie

            There is one slight problem with your post, otherwise agree 100%. Not every person posting on here is reasonable. One has stated very plainly that no other sources of information should be used except his. So Google is out. As are Wikipedia and university football teams’ web pages. Even info from sites like RotoWorld or NFL Network are put down sometimes. And nobody with female reproductive organs is supposed to be entitled to an opinion. Wow, I almost apologized for stating this opinion!

  • Joseph Haas

    The Eagles are now one of those franchises that everyone wants to play for. DeSean needs to be a team-first guy and understand a new contract is not happening – or the Eagles will move him and find someone to take his place. It’s pretty much that simple. Glad Jackson wants to stay – now he needs to act that way.

    • aub32

      WHAT!?! How has he acted any way toward the contrary? What has he said. He answered a question. What aren’t you getting about that? Also, who is going to just come in and replace his production? Did you look at the WR market. Is Eric Dececker supposed to replace DJax? How about a guy like Mike Wallace? DJax put up top 10 numbers this season. Take a look and see if you think anyone else in that group is going to have a chance to come here.

      • Kev_H

        If he goes, it will be because of his behavior at Minnesota. I’m not sure Kelly has any tolerance on a player going off like that on his coaches and QB. I don’t think Kelly expects his players and coaches to be sitting around killing time on the sidelines during the game so having to deal with a Jackson tantrum certainly takes people away from their jobs and makes doing what it takes to win much harder.

        Plus as a general rule, your probably better off in any professional endeavor with men who don’t identify with street gangs http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/10/desean-jackson-throwin-gang-signs-rapper-nipsey-hussle/ . If you were a minute away from a Super Bowl comeback, would you want you and your team’s fate resting partially in the hands of a guy with his TMZ file?

        • aub32

          Plenty of players and coaches get into it on the sideline. Ask any player, and they will say it’s part of the game.

          I’m assuming your 2nd paragraph is sarcasm. Is that correct?

  • ryyndynyyls

    I have to disagree with everyone who is bailing out the media on this. Here’s why: the first mention of this, ever as far as I know, was in an OPINION piece by Jimmy Kempski of philly.com in the quiet between our pre-free agency buzz of positive activity and actual free agency. It came out of the blue and was written as a theory. No sources, no nothing. A theory. As I suspected, the rumor mill has churned and now the media is left addressing the negative impact of an article that a “jounalist” wrote to fill dead space. It’s all specious and hurtful to the organization and the positive direction we’re headed in. Only the Front Office can fix this now, and until that happens the media will roll on writing reams of conjecture on the subject.

    • Adam G

      He 100% implied it wasn’t an opinion piece on twitter. Then was backed up by Mosher, and a few other beat writers. Like I said before, certainly seemed like the Eagles wanted this to get out, why, we shall see.

      • RIP illa

        He can say what he wants on twitter but that ish was certainly written like an opinion piece, as are many of his articles this time of year. He provided no sources or factual evidence to back it up. Then the other beat writers got in on it, and some actually acknowledge that their material was source based…for whatever that’s worth. But like you said, we shall see. Maybe the FO did and maybe they didn’t. Their certainly not helping the situation. And even if he does get traded, they have let it loom for too long. This is a complete shit show botched handling of the situation, regardless the outcome. Gold Standard my ass. The FO needs a lesson in class and grace!

        • Adam G

          The feeling I got was that he couldn’t reveal his sources. When it first came out, I immediately discredited it because it was him. I enjoy some of his humor in his articles, but didn’t peg him as an insider. But when others start hearing things, I feel like that’s for a reason. I guess the outcome will determine if this was botched or not.

          • RIP illa

            No, that’s the point I’m trying to make…the outcome can only lessen how botched this is, but cannot negate that it’s still being handled horribly…botched.

          • Adam G

            I was implying if this actually leads to them getting a lot of value in a trade, then its a necessary evil of producing interest. Anything else as a result will be considered poor if this info was intentionally leaked.

          • ryyndynyyls

            His production alone justifies his salary. That’s without even taking into account what he does in terms of setting up every other piece of the offense for success. There is virtually no trade that could guarantee equal value. And drafting to replace him is just statistically and ethically baseless. I have to think the FO, with all of their commitment to avoiding splashes and reckless moves, knows this. Assuming that that’s true, trailing out these articles as bait to gauge Desean’s value serves no purpose except to make him even more aware of what he should be getting paid… So, as I thought since the first Kempski musings were put out, the only thing that will put this to bed before it derails a team that’s in an incomparably positive place is for the FO to come out (despite their obvious fear of interacting with and encouraging the media) and squash it. My vote has always been that we make another in-house hype video (like the ones from the regular season) that shows a few highlights of all of our offensive pieces in action, including Sproles and amounts to “Have fun defending THIS. Fly Eagles Fly.” That way Chip and Howie won’t feel as if they succumbed to pressure to egg-on the press, and we get a lmuch-needed jolt of Posidelphian in the process.

          • cliff henny

            think some of think it’s more ‘they wanted to hear’. Howie cant stop Oakland from asking (assuming rumor is true). PM 24/7 doesn’t seem to be click driven, but think a lot of these other reporters are tossing this around like truth, cause they need the clicks. we just went thru all this BS with Vick, over and over. that’s what this feels like to me. reporters being lazy, knowing putting a ‘d-jax traded rumor’ will kill it for a day. passing twitter referrals back and forth as ‘sources’.

          • Adam G

            I definitely thought about that but there are some things that bother me about that explanation. One being I heard an interview with Mort where he also heard the rumors from a source of his, and he has no reason to lie and he doesn’t need traffic. He was just answering an interview question.

          • cliff henny

            Mort new to me. but still, ESPN was still shoving VIck down our throat weeks after we all knew the score. only player on Eagles that moves national meter is Jax. guess Shady, but he’d have to toss a bus load of old ladies out for us to even blink after last season.

  • Pennguino

    Everything is speculation. Eagles are not squashing it
    because they don’t see the need to answer to rumors or hypotheticals, as Chip
    has clearly stated. OR They don’t want
    to come off as fakes by saying one thing and doing another.

    Let’s look at it from the
    FO point of view. If they are sour on Jackson because he doesn’t
    “fit” what they want at the position, then they are open to moving
    him. Now is the perfect time. You have a deep draft to get the replacement WR
    with the size, length, speed you want. You can say his value is diminished this
    year because of the deep draft. I agree with that. But, what is his value next
    year when he has only one year left, is a year older, and maybe a less
    productive year (Ertz, Maclin, Sproles take away from his receptions)? He has
    more value this year than next year. I am not sure of the contract but typically,
    they get more expensive each year. He will
    be harder to move. Plus he has already
    demonstrated that when he is not happy with his contract he will sulk and will
    not play hard. Which means that in his
    mind, if he doesn’t get the guaranteed money then he will start to be a problem
    this year. Once again, the FO will get
    less value for him next year.

    If they are sour on him, then they will try and move him
    this year.

  • #7

    This is ridiculous if this is indeed true. I know that Chip has proven to be a good coach, but that don’t mean that he doesn’t need great players. Who replaces #10? Some rookie? We’re already due for a potential drop-off next year due to a harder schedule and teams becoming more familiar with our scheme on offense….we all know that d-coordinators are studying the hell out of our schemes. The Nfl catches up with everybody and hopefully we can stay ahead of the curve.

    This would be a huge..and stupid loss for the Eagles. The man wants more security. So what? Don’t we all want a raise at our jobs too???

    • cliff henny

      not too worried about the catching up. while DC are busy figuring out the Cooper #2 wr, Celek #1 TE, Kelly’s leaped ahead by adding, shoving Coop back to 4th, adding Mac and hopefully OBJ, Ertz jumps to #1 TE and sproles is Charlie Kelly wildcard TZAR. O’s not going to be the issue 7

      • #7

        Hope that is the case man. When I saw RG3 get eaten for dinner last year, it reminded me of how smart these coaches really are. RG3 could do no wrong his rookie season. Then those coaches made him look totally lost last year. Holding the ball for years and his strength was advertised as a pocket passer first that could run.

        • cliff henny

          what funny is Shanarat the genius was running the college offense everyone said Kelly was bringing. offense is loaded, it’s going to be must see TV.

          • #7

            Easy now…

          • aub32

            Not if we don’t have DJax.

          • cliff henny

            cant get there, ‘not without shady’, and i’m with you (and I don’t want to find out if either of us is right!). like Jax, certainly makes it easier for us as fans to see a great offense with Jax, cause we know it. Kelly’s got the offense thing covered.

          • #7

            You’re making me nervous henny…a bit too confident for me. Every NFL season is different. Could change with one hit..

          • cliff henny

            take Shady out, and things change in a hurry. think Kelly could work around Jax being out, but have no desire to find out. wouldn’t say overconfident, eagles have a lot of weapons, deep and good, and bet Kelly gets couple more in draft. doubt he blames defense for playoff lose, 26 in his eyes should be enough for double digit win.

          • #7

            You’re definitely right about #25. People on here underestimate the value of Jackson. I don’t think we see Cooper produce without Jackson…nor does Foles “emerge”. People look at his size and try to judge his value. I bet if he were some 6’5 WR the tone from the fans would be different IMO. Hard for people to accept that a 5’10 little guy can have such a big impact. People easily say that we can just replace him. I don’t watch college much and I saw a few comments saying that this draft is deep at WR, but there is no Randy Moss in this draft and will be another 5-10 years before another one comes. Unless you’re one of them (Moss, C.Johnson or hell, Desean Jackson…I recall him producing in his rookie year) WRs typically take 2-3 years before we know what we really have

          • aub32

            I have made this same point. DeSean’s number from a 6’2 WR would make him the most popular player on the team. Instead, fans just dismiss him as a guy who just happens to be fast. Yet there’s been only 2 WRs drafted in the first round of the last 5 years that I would take over him (Green and Jones) You’d think that in Philly DJax would get credit for playing so well against the odds. Instead, fans want a team full of Avants.

          • #7

            LOL exactly

          • Adam G

            Last 11 games that actually happened, his name is Riley Cooper. Through last 11 games of season Desean had only 65 more yards and one less td

          • aub32

            So Riley’s production had nothing to do with the fact that teams were focusing in on DJax? Did you ever once see Cooper double covered? Did you ever once see LBs and safeties out of position because Coop went in motion? Has Coop ever come close to DJax’s production over the last 6 years? Let’s not go down this road.

          • Adam G

            Well I was just pointing out that it actually happened and its not like people were so in love with Riley, his off field comments excluded. Also, I would take Demaryius and Gordon over Desean

          • aub32

            Hold up those guys got cut?…………Nah I didn’t think so. If I had my choice I take Megatron pair him up with Gordon and tell Foles he’s on the bench playing backup to Rodgers. However, that’s not what we are talking about is it? We aren’t talking about trading DJax for a guy proven he can produce in the NFL. We are talking about trading away our best WR who puts up top 10 numbers for a rookie with no NFL experience.

          • Adam G

            I’m missing something, did you not just say you would only take Green and Jones over him out of WRs drafted in the last five years? How can you attack what I just said if it was in reference to what you said?

          • aub32

            Ahh I see your confusion. Please reread my post. I said no one drafted in the “first” round of the last 5 years. The 2 guys you brought up were not 1st round picks, which is why I didn’t get why you brought them up. My point is this. Most people here that are willing to trade DJax want to do so to get a WR in the top 10. My point is that it is a very slim chance that the guy we get in the top 10 will out produce DJax. That isn’t to say that no one in this draft will out produce DJax, but if they aren’t in the top 10 then what is the point of trading our best WR.

          • Adam G

            I see. Demaryius was a 1st rd pick. Gordon would’ve been I think if he came out normally, but was a 2nd rd supplemental draft pick. I see your point and it really depends on when they think they can win. But there’s basically no chance a rookie WR can step in and match his production right away. In a few years, that’s a different story.

          • aub32

            I forgot Thomas was drafted in the first. I thought he was an early 2nd. Gordon has definitely proven to be more than worth that supplemental pick. I would put D. Thomas and Djax in the same class though. Thomas just has Peyton. I agree what Gordon did while missing 2 games and playing with guys no better than you or me puts him in another class completely.
            ….
            I prefer going with the proven commodity over what may happen. I think DJax is a top 10-15 WR in the league. Those guys can’t be found just anywhere. Plus our window will get a little smaller each year McCoy gets a year older.

          • #7

            …………

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Uhh, I love Avant, but please don’t give me four of them or we’ll be playing the equivalent of MLB “small ball” on the football field and looking at a ton of 3rd & longs. Dink, dunk. Dink, dunk.

        • EaglesFanInPhx

          I think that was as much of his early return from injury and poor coaching on his team than other teams “figuring him out”

          • #7

            It’s easy to use the knee as an excuse too. Also, he put pressure on himself with his thousands of press conferences and all his “week one” commercials. A knee does not stop you from going through progressions, right? Once his first read was covered, he was lost. Coaches saw from his rookie season that he has hitting that 1st read off of playaction and took that away..amongst other things

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            agree with most of what you say. That said, I still think it was as more of RG3’s regression in many ways (including mental and reads in addition to the knee) than other teams figuring him out.

          • #7

            I guess we’ll find out. Not a peep from him this offseason. Just as long as he regresses against the Eagles

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Well you also have to figure in that his internal clock is saying, “get open quickly, I don’t want to get hit and hurt again”.

          • #7

            True. He could have given himself some leeway without all of his “state of the union” addresses. I don’t know if the team mandated that or not of course…they could have at least stepped in..the HC or that dumb ass owner…to tell him to pipe down.

        • NickS1

          He didn’t develop as a passer. That’s as much on him as it is the coaches, him for trying to come back too soon. Curious what Gruden does with him (although, based on Dalton, I don’t expect too much). I’ll tell from what I’m experiencing just 4 days into the process, though: when you’re rehabbing a torn ACL, it’s the only thing you can focus on. Trying to come back in 8 months is no easy task. The knee really is a built in excuse to the extent that it takes away from offseason ability to work on improving. There’s no time to hold offseason workouts with receivers, etc.

          • #7

            Understood. It’s just that he was advertised as being on a P.Manning level as far as his intelligence (read that BS somewhere I think) and I though that he passed the ball well in year one, especially on PA passes. First read and ball out on time. I’m sure that it was tough with the ACL. I think the main thing that made him look bad to me is that he blew off the advice from McNabb and Warren Moon. They told him this would happen…all the press conferences and commercials brought more pressure…and they were right

          • NickS1

            Definitely did, but, he did it to himself. I don’t remember exactly what they said, but I know when McNabb speaks people shouldn’t listen, lol…. I don’t think he’s a bad passer. I’m curious what he does with an actual offseason of work. Hopefully he sucks.

          • #7

            Still the McNabb hate around here SMH

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I don’t think it’s so much hate on McNabb as it is bewilderment in his delivery of not what, but how he says something. No need to publicly offer your input. Just have your agent contact his agent through back channels. Then it’s respected and received much better. Same with “#5 will always love you”. Again it’s not what was said, it was how it was said. #5? Is that your alter ego, or just your over inflated ego referring to yourself in the 3rd person? And finally this is something that has always sat with me oddly. Did we all NOT SEE on national TV that Donnie Mac yacked at the LOS in the SB?? Why deny it? Do you empower The Force and think that you can alter our minds to have not seen it and erase it from memory. It happened, it was embarrassing, but don’t deny it and look stupid.

            So while I am truly thankful for all the great years he’s given us, I have to say that he is one odd duck that needs to think before he speaks and raises millions of eyebrows.

          • #7

            That’s funny you mention that. I have that game recorded on my DVR and plan to watch it tonight. I still don’t know if he really did or not man to be honest. Hard to believe TO from those days and I don’t remember clearly seeing it on TV. I mainly remember it as the slowest 2 minute drill in Super Bowl history

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I don’t give a rat’s ass about what TO said. I have a very strong visual memory. VERY strong. I clearly remember seeing it with my own two eyes…lol. I even recall an OL looking at it as it happened & I said to myself, “Uh oh, after seeing that we’re doomed. No way we’re winning this game. He doesn’t have it in him.”

          • #7

            I’ll see it this time then. Was drunk as hell by that time

          • NickS1

            Loved the player, not the commentator/woe-is-me attention whore

          • #7

            It’s just because McNabb said it for you. He’s no different than the others in the media

          • NickS1

            I can’t thing of one thing he’s ever said for me.

        • Kev_H

          That’s why I’m encouraged by Kelly’s one year at a time approach. He indicated that they started from scratch putting things together last year and that they’ll start from scratch again this year. With a few minor modifications, old timey coaches like Shanahan and Reid essentially do that same thing year after year because it’s what they know and what got them paid in the past.

          • cliff henny

            yup. I knew from my couch from formation/down and distance what Reid was going to run an alarmingly amount of the time, imagine DCs.

          • #7

            Yeah when you’re in the same place for 14 years surely that happens. KC was a fresh start for him. Guess he changed it up out there

    • RIP illa

      Where the hell have you been?

      • #7

        Had to take a break man lol. I’ve been popping and here and there. What’s up RIP.

        • RIP illa

          Chillin. Just waiting to see what Rob and RC are gonna say :-)
          So everything’s good with you? You haven’t jumped ship to another team??? LOL.

          • #7

            Nope not at all. Had to take a break from going 1 vs 100 on here. Could never talk football without folks trying to start some ish

          • RIP illa

            Well we’re getting a new influx of people so it’s gonna be 1 v 200. I’ll have your back from time to time, but only if I agree with you ;-)

          • #7

            You were fair. One of the best on here.

          • RIP illa

            Finally I get some damn respect!!! JK. Well good to have you back.

          • aub32

            Did you see how someone above said that DeSean’s production can be replaced by Jacoby Ford??? I think someone is violating your rules.

          • NickS1

            Someone said that?

          • aub32

            Yes. I had to read it twice to make sure they weren’t being sarcastic.

          • NickS1

            Wow. That’s bad.

          • Andy124

            Did they say how many years it would take?

          • aub32

            Aww man this actually made me start cracking up in my office.

          • #7

            That’s what I was talking about below. People look at his size and thinks he can be replaced. Jacoby Ford lol. He’s no DeSean Jackson. Not even close

          • cliff henny

            and people accuse me of being Kelly/offense drunk!?

          • #7

            You’ve had quite a few swigs I must say henny lol

          • cliff henny

            yeah, I take pride in the fact I’ve never turned down a free beer…but even Kelly keg of Guinness drunk I know the difference b/t jax and jacoby nobody

          • Andy124

            Bet they meant Jacoby Jones. Not sure if that makes it better or worse.

          • #7

            Yeah good catch. Jacoby Ford hasn’t done sh#t except…nothing

          • aub32

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…….. “except nothing” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • Maggie

            Jones might be the better dancer.

          • Andy124

            I feel like I’m missing a punchline, but auto-up-vote for the doggy pic. :)

          • Andy124

            This is why I don’t bet.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah I completely missed that. SMH!!! I give up.

          • #7

            Not coming here to discuss Vick. He’s not on the team so there’s no point. May change my username but not sure to what. Might not

          • RIP illa

            #9???

          • Andy124

            I like the old joke, keep the #7 and change the picture to Nick’s 7th td pass. Can’t take credit for that one, but it’s my favorite.

          • #7

            Haha good one. Still fighting the Foles fight I see Andy :)

          • Andy124

            Fight’s over. Nick won.

          • aub32

            It’s not over until Vick signs with another team….I mean Nate came back lol :)

          • #7

            It’s definitely a possibility…

          • #7

            If were going off of win and losses, technically they would be 1-1.

            But that’s the past Andy. Let’s move on

          • #7

            Pfff yeah right

          • Jerry Pomroy

            What up #7? I think a username change would save you from a ton of headaches & give a fresh start. Of course you could go with something like “Moved on from #7″, if you’d want to maintain name value.

          • #7

            I’m good man. I’ll come up with something…if I change it

          • Maggie

            The Seventh Day? The Seventh Sign? The Seventh Son? The Seventh Wave? (The biggest, most impressive or important). 76 Trombones? I could go on and on, but I’ll stop now.

            Edit: Tony Stewart, drives #14. Two times seven. Nicname ‘Smoke”. Couldn’t help myself. :-D

  • David

    On DeSean against the Saints: One of the only gratifying parts of this horrible game was a rare moment where Cris Collinsworth admitted he was wrong. After going on and on and on and on about Keenan Lewis shutting down DJax, he went to the tape, which showed nothing of the sort, and Collinsworth begrudgingly noted “actually, the Eagles had some opportunities there . . .” Foles was awful that game, in part because he was overly cautious and reluctant to throw deep even when Jackson was open.

    On Maclin: Unless Maclin is notably better than he was pre-injury, he’s a complementary player. Two years ago, while Jackson was regularly getting open against double coverage specifically designed to stop him, Maclin was struggling to get open against single coverage by #2 CBs.

    • #7

      Well said

    • jay ray

      Wow – someone actually assigns some accountability to Foles for the 1st half stinker. Bless you for that

    • Andy124

      Actually, awful is a pretty awful adjective to use to describe Foles’s performance that day.

  • Turk502

    You’ll notice that the Eagles front office contacted existing players when they brought in a free agent or a draft pick at the same position to reassure them. You’ll also notice that the Eagles haven’t signed a WR free agent, let Avant go, and the draft is almost a month away. So, where’s the need to reassure Jackson of anything? Obviously, there’s some smoke here, but where’s the smoke coming from? There’s been no direct attribution to the organization of any of these rumors, which almost seem to have been created out of thin air. Now, it makes some sense (the Eagles are at heart a running team and Jackson is a subpar blocker at best, he does have a bit of a me-first attitude with a concussion history, carries a big salary number with extensions for Foles, Kendricks, Cox, Boykin, etc., looming, great WR draft coming up), but just because something makes sense, doesn’t mean that it’s impending.

    • aub32

      In my opinion, that’s the angle the media is going with. DJax and Vick are the two most polarizing Eagles over the last couple of years. Vick is gone. DJax is here and still moves the needle. So a story with very little to no evidence puts DJax in the middle of controversy causing the fans to read and comment.

  • tball_man

    Clowney, Barr, Mack. The only three players worth the risk of trading Djax for. The O is totally plug’n play but the seismic shift of ridding a player of djax stature would need the yang of a top flight ROLB. It wouldn’t surprise me if Jacoby Ford could put up acceptable numbers in this offense (albeit with 16 games of Maclin on the field too).

    • aub32

      WOW just wow. When are some of you going to get that DJax is more than just a speed guy. He didn’t amass 1300+ yards simply by running fly patterns. This also isn’t his first good season. The guy averages 1000+ yards for his career. Only one of those were with Chip. Some of you have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about. By the way, Maclin isn’t some sure fire replacement either. He hasn’t had a single 1000 n in his entire career. Yet for some reason some of you think anyone can come in and perform.

      • #7

        Maclin is soft in my opinion. Too much alligator arms for me. It’s crazy that he hasn’t had 1000 a yard season in his career yet. He’s good on Madden though…except for the alligator arms issue..even on Madden

        • tball_man

          Madden… We’re talkin’ About Madden. Maclin is a quality #2 Period. has he lived completely up to drafted spot, no. And he certainly hasn’t translated as the returner we all saw at Missouri. He’s still an ultra good route runner and will thrive in this system.

          • #7

            We’ve been saying that for years now. Hope that it finally happens

      • tball_man

        Evidentally, in your eyes, Djax is greater than the scheme. Shady couldn’t possibly lead the league in rushing without #10.

        • aub32

          DJax was producing before he got into this scheme. I am not saying that this scheme isn’t a better fit. That’s obvious to anyone with eyes. So I have no problem with that statement. However, for you to suggest that a career STer like Ford would put up DJax like numbers just because of this offense you are crazy. Also, do you honestly think McCoy would have lead the league in rushing without DJax on the field. Try looking at AD and see how hard it is to face 8 or 9 guys in the box on every play. Once again…..WOW!

          • #7

            Nailed it

          • tball_man

            I honestly have no idea what J. Ford’s ultimate capabilities for RAC, where his speed really matches up with 10. My point being is if moving 10 (does he even fetch a top 10 pick) allows for the reasonable assurity of one of those ROLB…with the rookie scale in place… it’s a risk worth taking.

          • #7

            Wow man

          • aub32

            If you have no idea of what a player can and cannot do then perhaps you shouldn’t make such silly statements. How hard would it have been just to google Ford before making such a dumb statement. I just did it. His last 3 yard totals: 479/279/99. That’s receiving for the year. That’s the guy that you said could replace DJax. Saying things like that only show me and others that you have no idea what you are talking about. So why would I even think you know anything about the 3 pass rushers that you covet other than what you hear while flipping past ESPN. So no it’s not worth the risk, because what you would be risking is a 3 time pro bowler with no plan to replace him for either Barr (who is now being projected to fall out of the top 10) or Mack (who isn’t really your prototypical ROLB in the eyes of some)

          • #7

            Even if he got the wrong Jacoby…just wow lol

          • Andy124

            welp, guess he really did mean Jacoby Ford.

          • RIP illa

            This whole part of the comment section just made me die laughing. And that was the coup de gras

          • Andy124

            Glad I could help your workday go by. :)

          • RIP illa

            Appreciated. It’s been pretty crappy.

          • #7

            A drunk Rugby fan maybe that pulled a random player’s name out of his arse?

          • Maggie

            Personally wouldn’t mind if Barr fell to #22! Just a personal liking based on what I have seen of him. Seems like the kind of personality, besides talent, that would look good in an Eagles jersey. And to save argument from anyone else lol, this is strictly a personal opinion. :-)

            Edit: I just used the word ‘personal’ or a variation, FOUR times in one post. Ouch.

          • aub32

            I would love if Barr fell to 22. I would even pound the table for us to move up to get him at 15. I’m not giving up my best WR to get him though.

          • Maggie

            Of course not. think I agreed with you somewhere up the page.

          • Andy124

            BARRBARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR BARR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • tball_man

            Got it. catching passes form Jason Campbell, or Carson
            Palmer are indication J. Ford’s capabilities.

          • #7

            Are you sure that you don’t mean Jacoby Jones? I keep thinking that you’re having a typo. Not that it would matter

          • Andy124

            Based on mentioning Palmer and Campbell, that’s Jacoby Ford.

          • aub32

            I’m pretty sure he means Ford. Ford has speed, and people who don’t know much assume he could be somebody just because he’s fast. I keep trying to tell folks it than speed, but some people won’t listen. Also, Jones never played with the Raiders.

          • #7

            I assumed he didn’t know that either the comment was so ridiculous. Jacoby Ford did show some promise for a couple of games, then started having problems with his feet or something like that

          • aub32

            He’s fast, but he’s not a polished route runner, nor does he adjust to the ball particularly well. He also has to work on his hands. He’s fast though.

          • tball_man

            Yeah I am sure. thanks for the benefit of the doubt.

          • aub32

            Really dude. You are still playing that card. Just admit you were wrong. The guy has never caught more than 25 passes in a season. That has a lot more to do with who your QB is.

          • tball_man

            Dude.
            What am I wrong about… exactly? Not being surprised if this scheme could make Jacoby Ford a respectable WR

    • Maggie

      Clowney, Barr and Mack are not yet NFL players. They cannot be traded for. The only trade at this point would be to trade draft picks and there would still not be any guarantees about who would be available.

      • tball_man

        re-phrase ‘for the opportunity to draft’.

    • #7

      LOL man you almost made me spit out my soda

  • GMADD

    Look, I’m a big fan of Jackson but we Finally have a coach that understands TEAMWORK and demands that everyone respects that there is no “I” in that word. If Jackson has not learned this at 27 now, he likely won’t. If he simply dropped the EGO and listened to authority and realized that the world does not revolve around his considerable skills, this would be a match made in heaven for Him, Chip and all us fans who love seeing him play. But Whatever Chip thinks will get us to the winning circle is fine with me. Been waiting all my life and I’m not getting any younger.

    • RIP illa

      Switch in an Eagles Visor and shirt…I think you’re on to something.

    • #7

      What did he do that is so wrong? Ask for more security like the rest of the NFL players do? Personally I don’t take issue with that at all. One hit and it could be over. These teams use these guys up and toss them in the trash. Look at what they’re doing to Wilfork up in NE. Great team guy that never complained and played hard, then out of nowhere they need him to take a pay cut smh.

      They need to get all they can get. It is a business after all

      • GMADD

        You may have forgotten but he was just given a huge contract (with millions up front I understand) but just asking does not bother me either. What does bother me is his lack of discipline on the field and his childishness when he doesn’t agree with the play calling. I will never forget his extremely sub-par showing 2 years ago when he later hinted that he was saving himself with alligator arm play in the middle. Yes, he is small and it could be over any day. He needs to understand thats why Pro players get more money in a year than most of us will in a lifetime. It’s risky like Marines at war but much less so and they dont get big money. To boot, his blocking is poor and that does not sit well in Chips fluid and ever changing offense. We don’t have to like it, just see it and understand that it’s chips a$$ on the line, not ours.

        • RIP illa

          That’s the kinda post I’m talking bout there! Wish I could down vote this 1 million times!!!

          Edit: well that one and the Jacoby Ford ish!!!

          • GMADD

            could you explain please?

          • RIP illa

            1) Athletes money vs normal people money is purely relative and should not enter the equation…NEVER!!! It’s a weak and lazy argument for so many reasons.

            2) Everybody, including DJax, has already acknowledge 2011. But if you wanna get into it…the Eagles could have avoided the whole thing if they had not been paying everybody else (FAs) and taken care of their own. Especially since their own was their best WR making an insulting amount of money. But hey…let’s give VY 5mil!!! Bad management of resources and personnel, equals unhappy and uncooperative personnel. Doesn’t make DJax right, but the way it played out was to be expected!!! Plus he came back and showed, for 2 years, how he competes and balls out when he’s being respected and paid what he’s worth.

            3) His 10 mil signing bonus is split up over 5 years. So no he wasn’t handed a bunch of money upfront. He EARNED what he got and then some.

            4) Poor blocking…Just stop. He’s not a power house, but there are plenty of plays on plenty of game tapes, showing him giving maximum effort on blocks and doing it well enough to keep his man off the ball carrier!

            Everything else, including the aforementioned, is just conjecture.

          • GMADD

            we may never agree 100% but I do respect your opinion. I do want to add however that over the last 2 years, I have never seen him take even 1 play off. When i said poor blocking, I should have said “his size vs. what they were asking him to do” not his effort. Regardless of where you and i are on this, lets hope he is out there creating havoc for us for years to come.

          • RIP illa

            Oh yeah…
            5) Jacoby Ford!!! Although you didn’t say it. There seems to be a prevailing though that anyone can do what DJax does. And that’s what I get when I read post like yours.

        • #7

          Got to give it to you. Nice post. He flat out quit in 2011 I think it was. Didn’t get enough blame for that in my opinion

          • GMADD

            Bottom line is that I would love to see him and Chip on the same page and stay put right here. Maybe thats all this latest silent treatment is about.

    • Maggie

      Perhaps you overlooked the parts where Jackson said he was “all in” and” went on to have a very productive season”? How many players wearing #88 in Dallas have acted like jackasses on the sidelines but still produced and still got paid? Randy Moss was an idiot for years but caught the ball? How many Eagle “fans” wanted to bring Buress or TO into the locker room because they could catch the ball? Yet those people were truly disruptive. Trading DJax while he has maximum value, in order to improve the team, would be the norm in trading, NOT personal dislike.

      • RIP illa

        Wow. Excellent post Maggie.

        • Maggie

          Thanks. I needed that!

          • RIP illa

            No prob. I’ll always respect a well written and thought out post.

      • #7

        Maggie dropping knowledge

        • Maggie

          Nah. Just been around a long time. And every gray hair was earned, too!

          • Andy124

            bow-chika-bow-wow

      • aub32

        The biggest difference is that TO and Burress both fit what many fans think a #1 WR should look like. It’s so dumb that people only look at DJax’s size and speed and think he can be easily replaced. Tavon Austin was a top 10 pick and didn’t come close to the rookie production that DJax had.

        • #7

          I fell into the Tavon Austin trap last year. Cost me my fantasy league championship

          • aub32

            I never touch the rams. I have zero faith in Bradford. How lucky are they to be playing in the Midwest? They passed on RG3 for Bradford and no one even talks about it.

          • #7

            Yeah. Bradford flies under the radar big time and gets chance after chance. Had he been here in Philly he would have gotten eaten alive.

  • OG BeaTz

    Trade him 2 da Panthers Done Deal

    • #7

      What would we get lol. Hardy and Johnson??

      • Maggie

        Or Laurel and Hardy? Sorry, I enjoy those really old black and white movies.

  • Kd711

    Maybe Chip just prefers a more well-rounded receiver. Even if DeSean is the team’s most dynamic receiver, it’s possible that the offense as a whole will be more dynamic with Maclin and a rookie in there with Cooper. Last year, DeSean had great production by motioning around the formation, but maybe the offense functions better when you don’t constantly need to be concerned about getting one of your receivers out of press coverage. Instead the offense could just focus on exploiting match-ups and defensive weaknesses with a bunch of players that are truly versatile (McCoy, Maclin, Ertz, Sproles, and hypothetical rookie WR). It’s hard for the offense to dictate to the defense if your best receiver can’t beat press coverage.

    DeSean has top end speed, but he isn’t that versatile. He can’t really do anything out of the backfield, he doesn’t get tough yards after the catch, and he’s a straight-line rather than “shake and bake” kind of guy. I think Maclin is more of a prototype for Chip’s offense. Decent size/speed, ability to beat man coverage and YAC ability. The trade for Sproles shows that Chip likes the idea of having a TAZR in his NFL offense, but DeSean isn’t that either.

    • cliff henny

      kd, seeing how you are new poster, i’ll try to go thru here before RIP and AUB dumptruck you and i’ll be nicer about it…
      -possible more dynamic, no. there’s no guarantee’s Mac is coming back, and he’s always been vastly inferior threat to Jax. also, on the rookie WR, besides Watkins and Evans, why would we need to find out? can add a rookie threat to, not in place.
      -Jax beats press coverage, that is media bs.
      -teams move best WRs around all the time to get away from press coverage.
      -think you are way over rating Maclin
      -d-jax is limiting, so what. what he does, he does about as well as anyone in league. by adding threats around Jax, like Sproles, can stop using biggest weapon as decoy, leave him outside where one false step and it’s 6.

      • RIP illa

        Lol. I’m too tired to keep battling. Some of these guys are crazy. Just wish some would read through other comments, or provide actual substance and facts, or have knowledge of what they’re talking about before posting it.

        • cliff henny

          he hit on about every hot button, figured that might get ugly. least he only talked on the field.

    • #7

      “Even if DeSean is the team’s most dynamic receiver, it’s possible that
      the offense as a whole will be more dynamic with Maclin and a rookie in
      there with Cooper.”

      Please read that sentence again. How in the hell did you come up with that man. A rookie, Cooper, and Maclin coming off of a knee will be more dynamic. Cmon man

      • Kd711

        Ok man

        • #7

          I’m not trying to be malicious. I would like to know how you think we would be more dynamic. Interested to know

          • Kd711

            You’re not being malicious. You’re being condescending.

          • #7

            Ah cmon man. People have the right to say it was a crazy statement. It’s a blog man.

    • David

      Two things: First, Jackson’s elite speed makes him very versatile–he can return punts and he can torch defenses on end arounds, for example.
      Second, the sort of versatility in a WR that you’re describing is a banal attribute that is far inferior to elite speed. There are dozens of WRs that are “versatile.” Being sort of fast, sort of big, and sort of a good blocker doesn’t come close to equaling being incredibly fast. Obviously, DJax would be more desirable if he were 6’4″, but that’s not an option.

      • Andy124

        Don’t see ‘banal’ on a football blog every day. Nice.

        • Maggie

          And used with “attribute”.

  • GMADD

    Maggie – perhaps you can read the post 1 more time and see that I don’t want Jackson traded but he is clearly NOT a solid team player. No one close to the team on or off the field will dispute that he is a ME person. Chip isn’t trying to get TO or Randy Moss or any of those cowgirls here so it’s illogical to make comparisons to the team Chip want to build. I am hoping that all this is just about Chip and Jackson getting on the same page and that he will be here. Players will buy into Chips way 100% or be shown the door. In my opinion, it’s about damn time. (Oh yea, Randy and those guys in dallas – how did that all work out for them?).

    • OldDocRoss

      and those guys in dallas – how did that all work out for them?

      His douchecanoepilotry is without equal, but in the case of Michael Irvin? Annoyingly well.

      • Andy124

        Well when you’re allowed to push off… now I’m angry.

        • OldDocRoss

          I think I hate Irvin more than anyone in the history of sports. Or the world in general.

          I’m actually quite proud of the fact that the burning, all-consuming hatred I held for him as a kid remains undiminished after over a quarter of a century.

          Just a complete gobshite.

          • Andy124

            And proud you should be.

          • Maggie

            Since it’s Steelers week on the TV, you sound a bit like Atkinson hating on Swan or Franco.

      • Maggie

        Irvin was the first one to come to mind. And Bryant lately, although it is debatable whether Dez was just being demonstrative or a total pain in the sit-down.

        • OldDocRoss

          He just wanted them to play gooder.

          • Andy124

            Warning, story being repeated:

            The wife and I were saying gooder to each other jokingly after I told her about the quote. My 5-year-old interupts us, “It’s not gooder, it’s better!”.

            The moral: 5-year-olds have gooder grammar than Bryant.

        • RIP illa

          Well the whole slapping his mother thing doesn’t help either with Dez.

          • Maggie

            True. Being a Mother myself (thought I’d better capitalize!), if one of my children had ever tried such a thing, his butt would have hurt for a week from landing backwards on it. Not normally confrontational, but …

    • RIP illa

      Heard plenty of positive stuff about him off the field.

      • GMADD

        Absolutely true. I personally think he is a great young man who I hope stays in Philly. You can have a huge eqo, be a little immature and still be a great guy. He has matured quite a bit since his arrival. My post was only talking about a team fit, in particular “This Teams Fit this year”. As Chip build his team, he will be building 100% team players that fully get the team concept. Lets hope he is one of them.

        • RIP illa

          I understand. Don’t neccissarily like it, but can understand it.

  • Corey

    I’m okay with what ever Chip decides to do. I doubt Howie would trade Jackson without Chip’s knowledge and consent. No matter what you think about him, it’s a 50/50 chance whether he stays or he’s traded. If they can get a great pick or two for him I think you have to consider it. I’d rather trade him for a 1st this year instead of a 3rd in a few years.

    • #7

      smh

    • cliff henny

      i’d rather keep him for 2 year, have him post couple more 1400 and 10, and then I don’t give a ratzass what his value is in 3 yrs.

  • Riles

    Come to Seattle bruh!

    • #7

      Man you about to start some ish in here lol

    • Andy124

      You can have him in exchange for your defense. All of it.

      • aub32

        DeSean is my favorite Eagle, but I would be ok with that trade. We can throw in Allen.

        • Foles2Sproles

          Throw in Allen too! Well, that would ensure Seattle getting the better end of that deal then.

      • #7

        Hell yeah

    • aub32

      He’d clear out the box for Lynch and be a perfect target for Wilson. Plus with Harvin on the other side, watch out.

      • Andy124

        Too short. ;)

        (It’s the new, ‘Too slow’).

  • aub32

    Weeden to the cowboys

    • cliff henny

      ha, cutting Orton? 3m more to dead money. JJ just cant stop

      • OldDocRoss

        How in the world do you ever find yourself in a position where cutting Kyle Orton will cost you $3m dead money?

        I mean that’s……….glorious.

        • cliff henny

          go to bloggingtheboys.com they has a series on how well JJ manages the cap, 1/2 that fan base is delusional. think they are closing in 15m in dead money this yr (not sure what’s june 1st’d but, it’s a lot), have 6m (austin june 1st) already next, haven’t signed anyone to help team, and fielding a JV defensive unit. still have to figure out how to get Dez, T smith, who is going to be a mr. slippy fist contract without even a kiss cause they have no one behind him and Romo on his last vertibrea, plus Murray to get all in under 20m by ’15.
          .
          I love any Dallas misery!

          • OldDocRoss

            But hey, they kept Romo’s cap number in 2015 under $30m so, um, yeah…

            I think my favourite part of their collective delusion is that as long as they nail the draft this year and next it’ll all be fine. “Draft Seven Guys Per Annum Who Can Immediately Step In And Contribute At A Pro Bowl Level” is such a foolproof plan it’s surprising nobody else has thought of it before.

          • cliff henny

            cap hit of 29.7m…mean, WUT!?!? but only 27m dead, so he clears 2m if cut…they actually have discussion on this…know what 2m buys…NOT EVEN NATE ALLEN!
            .
            he’s restructuring guys while under the knife for necks(Lee) and backs, no issue there. i’m picture JJ in hospital gown having them sign restructure on adjacent gurney while being wheeled into surgery
            .

          • Tom W

            If you are who I think you are on that site, you do some really good posting and dismantled the guy who wrote that silly series of article on dallas cap.

        • jesse

          Cause you have to pay top dollar to have someone come in and lose a play off play in game lol

    • #7

      Jerry Jones at his finest

  • Stephen Stempo

    um.. wait. So because the team refuses to deny a rumor started by an innocent thought expiriment kind of “what if” article that i somehow suspicious?

    Hasn’t this died yet?

    I mean Most of the Eagles wriers I follow are usually pretty even when it comes to not reporting speculation. The on top of it reporting that that speculation might be more than speculation without any type of source other than “no outright denial.”

    • jesse

      You must not read the smut on philly.com

  • Bibble62

    Jackson is two years into a five year contract & is being paid on a scale consistent w/ his production as a wide receiver in the NFL. Is his ego so fragile that he needs to be reassured by the Eagles when any rumor pops up? He’ll get 10 mil. this yr. & if the Birds cut him after that, he should be able to get that long turm security he desires from another team, if he’s as good as he thinks he is. It’s not a good time to pull a T.O.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      he doesnt want a raise, it was more about guranteed $ witch has run out…

  • RIP illa

    HAHA McManus!!! You just got a national shoutout on ESPN for all the wrong reasons.
    Apparently you and Sheil have reported that Djax is “one misstep away from being traded”. You two speculating, rumor starting, flame fanning, SOBs. LOL.
    Props for the national attention. Just wish the so called “journalist” and pundits, national and local, would get their (the) story straight. But what can one expect from ESPN???

    • TOm W

      And the media stokes the fires some more … another philly superstar gets angry about reports of trades, says something dumb, doesn’t show up to offseason workout, something …. media connecting dots …. eagles have no reason to put silly media rumors out or they would be doing it every day.

      God I hate this shit … but kudos for Tim actually doing some investigating journalism himself.

      Dunno how espn can draw that conclusion .. shit but florio took off w it too and rotoworld…..

      The national media does this all the time … especially w fantasy football stuff … often saying a player is going to get 300 carries, etc … and when you look at the source or article its just the beat guys opinion who doesn’t know shit about the game of football and no support for statement.

  • Jake and Elmo

    One thing’s for sure – I’ll bet nobody on the squad locked up with a long term multi million dollar contract is going to speculate in front of the media about reworking their contract anytime soon.

    • cliff henny

      there isn’t anyone. Shady is thru ’16, then he becomes cuttable. no one else rec’d any security past ’15. heck, even Lane Johnson could be cut before ’16 season. Howie’s not letting anyone feel like they can let the grass grow under their feet.

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    Its just mental games going on, punishing desean.

    • Maggie

      Punishing for what? Are you in high school? If you would take notice, everybody. The Eagles have said NOTHING about ANYONE in the off season, until AFTER the signature is on paper.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        for saying he wants a new contract with guranteed money.. desean is my FAV player i dont want him going anywhere, but he kinda said something dumb, hurt some feelings in the FO.. and deseans signature is on the paper sweetheart.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        oh and sweetheart why would u ask ME if i was in high school im not the one doing the childish thing like punishing their player for saying something stupid.. step ya game up.

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    “We asked one agent that has established credibility with us if he had heard anything regarding Jackson…. ……He isn’t looped directly into the situation and isn’t to be looked at as a source”

    So then why the F are you even printing it? lol

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    Most talented WR that has ever been in philly and another season like last WILL be the best eagles WR EVER!!!

  • Blackmajik71

    Throw a lie out there, and expect the Philly brass to jump out and squash it, the Eagles said piss off, we will discuss when we want, not when you say jump, stew on that.

  • Explorer51

    If he’s so worried about rumors, why doesn’t he or his agent (who presumably is getting paid a lot of money) just call Chip or Howie? “We’re in the dark like everyone else…” What is this Junior High? If you were one of the top people in your company and you heard a rumor at work that you were going to be fired, wouldn’t you go see your boss and ask WTF?

    No doubt Jackson is one of the most talented WRs in Eagles history but he also might rival Shawn Andrews in his immaturity and ego fragility.

  • supermarbles

    Why would they trade a proven Pro Bowl WR in his prime? No off the field issues. Yes he’s pretty outspoken and a bit of a jackass but talent supercedes.

  • Tom w

    Glad our Philly media is again going to help if not perpetuate another superstar being forced outta town like they did with Rolen schilling lindros Barkley iverson igodola Mcnabb Cunningham

  • johnr

    Trading DJax just doesn’t make sense to me. He probably won’t command more than a 2nd round pick in the draft this year, if that. If a team needs a WR they can get one for cheap in this year’s draft. So why would a team want to give up a draft pick for a little WR who has a big contract and can be a big headache (although admittedly he can put up big numbers), when they can get a bigger player for less money and fewer headaches (for now) in the draft. So even if the Eagles wanted to trade Jackson, they would be getting little for him relative to the production he can provide. Plus we don’t have enough talent to replace what he brings. So sorry to disappoint Domo and his “second floor” source, we are stuck with DJax this year.

    • jesse

      I don’t see having one of the top producing wide is as being stuck with… and what has Desean ever really done except want to get paid while he still could. He didn’t hold out he was a little disaden on a team that had horrible chemistry he just watched them give what was it like 3 million to bum ass Steve Smith and refuse to restructure a very under paid contact to him? Hmm I wonder how many of us would have not been upset. In this league where you are one play from being hurt and contact being voided as a producing player I would want guarantee money too

  • djack10

    Desean Jackson is not going to be traded. This is completely ridiculous. The guy balled out last year and quite frankly looked like one of the hardest working players on the whole team. This is on the level of ESPN-bad reporting. Please stop.

    • jesse

      Then the team needs to address that at the last to Desean.

    • ia

      “Jackson is unsure about his standing on the team”
      If he is not going to be traded, why is he worried? Does he lack confidence?
      I believe there still is a unsolved issue between the coaching staff and Desean.
      He has to fix that.
      Does he want to be with the team or where he gets the most money?

  • jesse

    This is crazy either way. D Jax had a top 5 year as a a wide out and thats not even factoring in the effects he had when not even receiving the ball. he opens the whole field up for other receivers as well as the running game. Who are you going to get to replace all of that? And I feel he gets a bum rap about his attitude I have never heard any rumblings from current or even former teammates. And if this is all just rumors then the front office should be putting in end to them pronto why would you want this drama to effect your teams confidence?

  • jesse

    Oh wait I get it we are trading or 22 and Desean to Miami for Jordan and Wallace

  • John G

    This article is so contrived.

  • TopDog215

    Riley Cooper made a bigger gaff than ANYTHING Desean said or did plus Desean has waaaayyyy better career numbers..Cooper gets a new contract n Desean might get traded????..dnt make the Chris Carter mistake..Jackson is a play maker!!!!!!!!!!

  • Top Dog215

    Cooper made a racist comment and he gets a new deal..Jackson played up to his contract and he might be traded..best reciever drafted by the eagles

  • AW

    KEEP HIM ! Perfect fit for Kelly’s offense

  • Chuck Seese

    “…rumors are not confined to the internet. They exist in some league circles. They have reached Jackson and have been relayed to some of his teammates. They are beginning to have an impact.”
    Could you please follow up that last statement with some facts to support it?!?!? What impact are the rumors having?!?!?

  • vik

    I would love to trade him and a third to the browns for the 4th pick and grab Watkins

  • Tyrell m

    Desean should got play wit the chargers or patriots he would be a good addition and would be a downfield threat for either team if he goes tew the chargers the receiving group would be desean, Keenan Allen Eddie royal and gates if the went to the patriots the can trade amendola and a 3 for desean but the receiving group for the pats would be lafell,desean Edelman and Gronk dats a sick offense if u ask meeh

    • Michael

      The Chargers are losers, have been all their time in San Diego. How can you go to the Chargers?