Re-Setting Free Agency: Who’s Left For the Eagles?

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It seems like free agency has been ongoing for weeks, but really, this is only the fifth day.

That means there are still a lot of players searching for teams and deals to be made.


First, let's take a look at the latest buzz:

* Hakeem Nicks inked a one-year, $3.5 million deal with the Colts, according to Mike Garafolo of FoxSports.com. Nicks is only 26, but he hasn't had a big year since 2011. At that price tag though, he seems like a good person to take a flier on.

Riley Cooper's 2013 stats: 47 catches for 835 yards and 8 TDs.
Nicks' 2013 stats: 56 catches for 896 yards and 0 TDs.

Obviously the touchdown numbers are different, but I was surprised by how the other two categories stacked up. One year of DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and Nicks could have been interesting.

* After some drama, Brandon Browner has agreed to a three-year deal with the Patriots. New England and Denver are clearly trying to load up for a 2014 run while they still have Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, respectively. It might hurt them long-term, but I can't say I blame either franchise.

* I'm guessing Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie's agent wasn't thrilled about his retirement talk during Super Bowl week. DRC has had a soft market, but will visit with the Jets and Giants, per NJ.com. If I'm a team in need of corner help, I'd try to convince DRC to take a one-year deal. That might be the best way to continually keep him interested.

* Cam Thomas, a space-eating nose tackle, has signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

SO, WHO'S LEFT?

* Rotoworld has a great master list up of available free agents. The area where the Eagles are most likely to add bodies at this point is probably the defensive line. They need six guys who can play and several more to go to camp with in the spring. Some of those will come through the draft and undrafted free agents, but depending on how the market plays out, they could still make a move or two there in free agency.

* And they might not be done at safety. The Eagles have Earl Wolff and Malcolm Jenkins as potential starters. Chris Maragos should take up a depth/special teams spot. But that still leaves one or two spots remaining to be filled through the draft or free agency.

* OK, let's get to some names:

Alex Carrington, Bills (27) - We've mentioned Carrington on several occasions, but he still has not been linked to the Eagles. Carrington (6-5, 301) only played in three games last year because of a quad injury and is considered a rotational player. He would play 3-4 defensive end and potentially move inside on passing downs. He was a third-round pick in 2010. Carrington's only reported visit has been with the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team that runs a similar scheme to the Eagles.

Corey Wootton, Bears (27) - Wootton (6-6, 270) played in Chicago's 4-3, but GM Phil Emery told reporters earlier this offseason that he'd be a fit in a 3-4 as well.

"Corey is one of the guys that would transcend scheme," Emery said. "I was in a 3-4, a pure, straight 3-4 defense in Kansas City and he could have been the right end. If he put a little weight on, he could be the left end. He played under-tackle for us. Actually Corey was most disruptive as a pass rusher, between the d-end and d-tackle, at d-tackle this year."

Wootton had 10 sacks, six passes batted down and three forced fumbles the past two seasons. He had hip surgery in January and has not had any reported visits.

Terrence Cody, Ravens (26) - This would strictly be a move to add a space-eating nose tackle. Cody (6-4, 340) is a former second-round pick. He played 28.9 percent of the Ravens' defensive snaps last year and never turned into an impact player in Baltimore. But if the Eagles see potential and want a young, big-bodied nose tackle, Cody could be of interest.

James Ihedigbo, Ravens (30) - Ihedigbo (6-1, 214) almost never came off the field for the Ravens last year, playing 99.6 percent of the team's snaps, per Pro Football Focus. His playmaking numbers were good. Ihedigbo broke up 11 passes, had three interceptions and forced two fumbles. He also held up well against the run and has good size. This one comes down to what the Eagles' confidence is in Wolff and Ihedigbo's price tag. Ihedigbo turned 30 in December, but didn't start a game during his first three seasons in the league. He could compete with Wolff for the starting job and provide depth if the price is right.

O'Brien Schofield, Seahawks (27) - There's certainly a question mark here. Schofield (6-3, 242) originally agreed to terms with the Giants, but the deal died presumably because of injury concerns. Schofield suffered an ACL injury at the Senior Bowl when he was coming out of Wisconsin and fell to the fourth round in 2010. He started to come on in 2012, notching four sacks in nine games, but Schofield then suffered a season-ending ankle injury. He went from a full-time role in Arizona to a rotational role in Seattle last year, playing just 20.3 percent of the Seahawks' snaps. If the Eagles want to add a rotational player who's played in a 3-4 before, he could get a look.

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  • cliff henny

    FA turkey has been picked clean. forget about the scraps, there’s a nice fresh plump bird out back. Get D-Jax’s money straight

    • Republicans_Sux

      What the hell are you talking about? Jackson already has a contract… If he acts like a Diva then trade him

      • rls255

        There is no way I would trade him at this point, why weaken the offense? His speed/talent is not easily replaceable and I certainly don’t wanna go into next year with Mac and coop (or a rook) as the starting WRs. Desean creates space, one thing chip loves.

        • seanstradomus

          You guys are still talking about desean hahah amazing that news was a months ago and is not true doesn’t have an issue with contract and eagles are not trading him find something new to talk about

      • RIP illa

        SMH!!! Come on kid, step your salary cap/contract game up!!!
        If you can’t do it by yourself…we gotta guy to help you with that. His name’s Cliff!!! Just pay attention.

        • Richard Colton

          Hey Cliff – didn’t you know the guy “already has a contract” hahaha.

          • cliff henny

            wasn’t aware…heard Eagles have cap space, too

      • GEAGLE

        If you are gonna snap on people, you probably should have a clue what you are talking about. Ask nicely and we will break it down for u :)

      • cliff henny

        well, i’d explain ‘why’ but doubt you’d listen or truly care. also, that’s a very republican viewpoint for a guy who thinks they suck.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          Really really hope this site gets back to normal soon

          • Richard Colton

            You think this is bad? Early May I might just head over to MMQB

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya, it’s gettin bad

          • RIP illa

            Whaaat??? I was just sitting here, with my AM Ale, thinking about how great it would be if the official Eagles site went to disqus too!!! The more the merrier…right??? ;-)

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            up vote for morning beer

          • Andy124

            up vote for up voting morning beer.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Was thinking this same thing this morning. I don’t think it ever will, too many links to it in other blogs, too much exposure, they have flocked

    • GEAGLE

      Screw you bud, I want the turkey ass, the bones, and lick the cranberry sauce bowl clean!!!

      • cliff henny

        take all the remaining mess, scrap the stuffing, mashers, mac-n-cheese and veges bowls into a soup pot…that’s the defense to me

        • GEAGLE

          Haha well played

  • travis papa

    Just humor us can you let us know of any market for our free agents namely Nate Allen and any chance of him or any of them returning. I’d feel a lot better with 2 vets at safety on the roster

    • Token

      Our FAs are now out of the league.

      • travis papa

        I’m just asking for a simple update. I bet most considering there is only a few will end up on a roster somewhere for depth if nothing else. I’d like to see Nate Allen back just to have 3 starting safeties on the team then we don’t push a safety up the board unnecessarily. We could take telvin smith in the 3rd & transition him over a yr or 2

        • GEAGLE

          Let’s just say our free agents are a reflection of why we sucked before Chip came…I’d give Colt the minimum if he can’t find a home, and just field the nastiest ST coverage units the league has seen.
          ..
          Braman,Casey,maragos, Nolan, Boykin, Donnie, nasty lil ST core

          • Eagles1018

            I’d actually like that…any idea what Colt is looking for?

        • James Skip Carl

          Nate Allen is not a starting caliber safety

          • travis papa

            What’s going to happen when Wolfe stubs a toe & shuts himself down for the year again? I’d like to have Allen with a yr in the system instead of a rookie or a career backup step in is all I’m saying.

          • GEAGLE

            Just because he isn’t signed yet, don’t mean he won’t start this year..plenty of teams who don’t have much money still need a safety…Chris Clemons hasn’t signed yet, do you think he won’t start this year for someone?

            I prefer Indehigbo even at that age, because he is a quality ST addition. He was a major team leader for the Ravens last year, very durable and his strength is probably run support which isn’t much of our strength of our current safeties…stylistically he is strong where we are week….we have TOO much money right now…sign dude to a two year deal, pay him handsomely in year one, and chump change in year two…problem is, team like Detroit can offer him the starting spot that we cant

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            DIdn’t you see the post where Chip said he re-signed all his good players? He obviously doesn’t consider Nate a good player from that statement. Maybe someone does though, who knows.

      • G_WallyHunter

        It’s actually so funny when u see that Colt, Kurt, and Nate havew gone nowhere, really speaks to how bad they really were lol, and speaks to how bad it was of Philly to keep them that long..

        • RIP illa

          Been screaming this for years. Although I do think Nate will be a backup on somebody’s roster.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yup, kinda surprised he hasn’t gotten any looks given his resurgence last year. Not surprised at all about Colt and Kurt, kinda surprised no teams have signed them as strict ST pieces like the Eagles did… few days that might change..
            But just speaks to how much they suck lol, I’m really happy the Eagles aren’t resigning them and just letting them go,
            C ya later, thanks for all the missed tackles and blown coverages.

          • GEAGLE

            They absolutely stink…but we are such a well run organization(and cap paranoid of course), that we won’t ever be seeing a case where quality players we draft, we allow to hit open market…we will always retain our quality players. So I doubt we will ever see eagles free agents getting paid big money being signed in the first two days the market open…if they command that much interest. They are prob quality players, in which case we will have signed them before they became free agents

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yup good points, Colt and Kurt and Nate just…. aren’t.

          • RIP illa

            Andy will probably pick up Colt later on. He’s pretty loyal to his guys.

          • cliff henny

            Reid is slowly killing that roster. hearing grumblings coming out of KC.

          • RIP illa

            I haven’t really paid attention. Gotta talk to my boy who’s a huge KC fan. I was surprised that they let DM go and didn’t they lose a bunch of OL?

          • cliff henny

            sbnation.com, have pretty much every team in every sport blogs. I hop on just to see. they’re seeing the light

          • RIP illa

            Just gave it a peek and came away wondering why no one (us) are not giving any thoughts to Demps? He has come into his own, and has proven to be a hard nosed ST guy that’s not a complete liability on the field. I like him better than Maragos, and since we need some depth for camp…why not him at S?

          • cliff henny

            still waiting…where’s my apology

          • RIP illa

            Screw You Cliff…Not after you just shared your thoughts on D. :-)
            What am I supposed to be apologizing for anyway?

          • cliff henny

            not sure…but in all my rantings, had to of been right at least once, no?
            .
            if they can get a 5th-6th, in a heartbeat. Kelly can find an UDFA to run into the ground

          • A Roy

            Could be ours…

          • RIP illa

            Perhaps

        • Token

          Still trash to clear off this roster.

  • GEAGLE

    Smh…eagles won’t sign Schofield. How do I know? Cuz he hit waivers like 3 times last year when we had no OLBs and eagles passed on him every time…doubt they will sign him now..
    . Can’t get Carrington, then add Wooten.
    ..
    Ihendigbo I would love to see us sign. But word is he will sign Detroit and the hold up is he is between agents and his wife is about to have a baby

    Slim pickings…

    • oreofestar

      I think the chances of Pryor getting to 22 are better than they were a week ago so there is that, I do not even want Ihedigbo to be honest with ya.

      Bush has been the guy I have been saying because he would be dirt cheap but the way it looks Clemons could be dirt cheap too and Allen probably does not want to come back anyway.

      Carrington would still be nice if they want to spend there is Wilfork but I would honestly prefer Carrington.

      Nothing else going on at corner, maybe we can still get Miami to trade Dion if not we need to get more picks

      • GEAGLE

        I don’t know much about Bush which is why I only usually mention him in passing. I’m not oposed to him, I just can’t really speak on it…it’s really not about who the best safety is, our free agent moves have all been about fit, which is why it was so obvious that we would sign Jenkins…I don’t know Bush game, so I have no idea if we would even consider him or not…
        ..
        Carrington will be much cheaper then Wilfork, and he is much more versatile, so we would have much more use for Carrington. I’m also convinced that we WANT Logan starting at NT.. If Carrington stays healthy, he will provide really good value for the modest contract he will be signed too. Good player, cool market coming off an injury, I would assume he wants to sign a two year deal, get his value up and then hit the market again at the age of 28 and try to get paid….

        Wilfork helps the run game, but I don’t think we need help defending the run…much more concerned with getting off the field on 3rd down passing situations. And Wilfork does nothing to help us in that regard

        • RIP illa

          Lmao…first part of the first line priceless!!! Sorry to be so juvenile.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol, need to edit to: which is why I only mention HER in passing….people like you is why I had to refrain from typing BYRD, instead going with Jarius lol…technically, Bush would be a good addition to the Wang Gang,.if we draft Dix our safeties could be Bush and Dix..with Cox penetrating the pocket, and Johnson cheering the defense on from the bench

          • Nfl All Day

            Dont forget McNutt.

        • oreofestar

          The Wolfork thing is just a thought I wanted to through out there because if he recovers well you are getting a probowler who can help out our young guys, Eagles have yet to show interest in Carrgton as far as we concerned but hopefully that changes

          • oreofestar

            I meant throw out there

          • GEAGLE

            Wilfork was a special player…I would not complain if we too, a flier on him and see if there is anything left in that tank…I just don’t know how realistic it is

          • oreofestar

            It is about as realistic as Revis coming which means doubtful with an outside shot at the right price

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah, especially since I doubt he would sign some cheap flier contract…but we have too much money right now, so I don’t really care if they give someone a 3yr deal, with all the GUARENTEED money in the first year

          • oreofestar

            I would not mind Wilfork at all I just do not want anyone else to be disappointed AGAIN so making sure people know it will not happen and it is just an idea

        • RIP illa

          A competent backup and/or run stuffer like Wilfork, helps to keep Logan fresher for passing downs.

          • GEAGLE

            Wilfork ain’t some Rah rah team guy. Dude wasn’t trying to hear that “patriot way” crap..they just added two top CBs, and he wanted out because they screwing with his money. Not only do I doubt he would sign a cheap contract. But I Doubt he would sit on the bench behind a 2nd year player,..we also don’t use Logan much on passing downs..we usually go to that 4man line on 3rd, and Cox,Curry and Ced are all probably ahead of Logan in the 4-3DT pass rush rotation…
            .
            Hey, I’d rather see them take a fler on someone, then pocket 25million..sign someone, anyone lol

          • RIP illa

            Can’t disagree.

          • oreofestar

            And that is my only problem with Wilfork…money I love him as a player but I am not handing out a 3 year 25mil deal for him so the only way there is even a slight chance would be if no one will sign him because of injury and price and his price plummets low where Howie gets him at like a Justn Tuck contract if even

        • Nfl All Day

          Thornton only getting a 1 yr extension says so much about they’re lack of commitment t9 him. Add in the fact they let Geathers walk, and DE early in the draft starts to look very possible. Either that or NT and Logan bounces outside.

      • Token

        Id be surprised if Pryor is a 1st rounder. Im guessing hes liked more by fans and mock drafters than NFL guys. Nobody wants stiff box safeties anymore. TJ Ward may be the best box safety out there and hes playing for the same money a bum like Jenkins got. Someone with that skill set isnt a 1st round pick.

        And get it out of your head about picking a safety in the first. How clearly do they have to tell us that they dont give a damn about that position. Id actually be pissed off if they picked one of these average safeties with a 1st and passed on a top notch one last year.

        • oreofestar

          I am not saying we will draft safeties round 1 or even 2 or 3 I was just saying that Pryor could be there and unless Barr or Gilbert or Evans is there or something I would not bat an eye about taking him,

          • Token

            If Pryor is the best thing left on the board you trade back. But he wont be.

          • GEAGLE

            Stand your ground when you are talking to a proven idiot who’s opinions prove correct about 13% of the time

          • Token

            Says the guy who flip flops on anything he said in the past to fit whatever guy hes blowing at the time. You hated Jenkins, now a few days later love him. At least have a opinion and stick to it once in awhile.

            You are the Birds 24/7 equivalent of Dave Spadaro.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Hahahahah so true

        • Joe L

          So much Pryor hate. The kid isn’t a “stiff, box safety” man.

          • cliff henny

            Joe meet token, everyone sucks and is overpaid

          • Joe L

            Haha, I’m starting to get that feeling.

          • Token

            Hey, I wish we were talking about a team that was really good and had no faults. Unfortunately unlike most Eagles fans I cant live in fairy tale land.

            As far as draft prospects, I dont get the point in just blowing any and everyone. Ive named the select few im interested in and maybe ill be right maybe ill be wrong.

            Its a lot easier to say you like everyone and then gloat when it turns out to be right sometimes. Id rather have strong opinions, right or wrong.

          • cliff henny

            man, admit it, you like shitting on everyone’s toast and trying to call is apple butter. i get it, it’s your schitck, i just dont get it

          • Token

            Just watch the kid. I know the hits are fun. But hes not all that good of a safety prospect. Especially with what you want in a safety now.

          • Joe L

            I have watched him. I’m a Rutgers guy, so watching Louisville has been a regular occurrence for me.

    • TNA

      What was it that you wrote yesterday about Howie operating in darkness? No news is good news.

      • GEAGLE

        Yes but the natives are getting restless :)

        Soon there isn’t going to be anyone to sign

      • JofreyRice

        that was everyone’s argument before free agency. We saw what they did. They were going through the dregs as soon as FA hit. At the strike of 4pm on Tuesday, we heard a long, loud fart coming out of the novacare complex.

        They may add more guys that could eventually work their way into special teams aces roles, but I’d say it’s time to turn our attention to the draft. Flip some of these guys like Graham, Bryce Brown, whomever you can get picks for. If the plan is to build through the draft solely, then you need the picks to do it.

        • Andy124

          Where I come from, long loud farts get applauded.

          • GEAGLE

            Big farts beat up little farts

          • Andy124

            Nice.

          • GEAGLE

            It’s speaks to how sick and twisted we are as a community that big farts beat up lil farts is one of my most REC’ed posts…lol sick bastards

          • Bukester

            I think McCartney said that about Love Me Do. Take it and run my friend.

          • Bukester

            Best EVER Geags

        • GEAGLE

          Yup, if we sign any more FA, I doubt they will be very exciting names..

          I’m surprised we didn’t add FA OL, and see if we can keep up the FA Barbre/Mathis magic

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, was definitely thinking we’d add somebody. The line is old and Herremans doesn’t have much longer. Gotta get something in the works, although they do seem to like older players now, more than they did in the Banner/Reid years. Maybe we’re waiting for cutdowns from other teams or undrafted free agents?

          • GEAGLE

            There is a good chance you are right…I mean ATleast we will bring in a cheap new OL to take a look at in camp, someone we aren’t guarenteeing a roster spot to….can’t imagine us not taking a look at a single FA OL

    • RIP illa

      Carrington , Wooten, kick the tires on Wilfork and see if he’s priced out of our range, sign random guard like we usually do every year (I completely trust them with that), bring in a kicker!

      We still need more DB depth, and I’m not thrilled with the remains at safety at all. But if we must bring in one, then go with Os choice of Bush (I kinda don’t want to get anymore older guys on the squad). Plus we still need competition at CB for camp and to hopefully get rid of Marsh and Roc. So I hope Howie’s just playing the “let the market settle” game when it comes to Thurman. I still like EJ Biggers as he seems to physically fit what we need, but they didn’t sign him last year so that doesn’t bode well, but I don’t see how it could hurt to let him come and compete. Cromartie would be my las resort, but $ and the fact that some team will sign him before we even get to last resort moves, most likely rule him out.

  • GEAGLE

    wtf, I would have NEVER guessed that GB would have signed peppers to a 3year deal

    • Joe Thomas

      They are trying to conjure up the magic of the last great free agent DE they signed. But peppers aint no Reggie, and he is 2 years older then he was.

  • Nick M

    What about Quinten Mikell? Seriously, solid guy to compete with Wolff. Did he sign anywhere yet? Was a starter last year for a really good defense.

    I am guessing they’ll address the pass rush in the draft. Trent Murphy seems like a perfect fit in the second round.

    • GEAGLE

      We moving forward, not backwards

      • Johnny Domino

        I don’t know, could be at least as amusing as Trotter Part Deux.

        • Richard Colton

          Might as well sign Trotter if we’re talking about Quinten Mikell. He was a nice little player, 8 years ago.

          • Johnny Domino

            The older we get, the better we were.

  • TNA

    CK: “At times, some of the communications parts were some of the breakdowns to some of our bigger plays that were made against us last year, so to add a guy like Malcolm, that was a huge plus for us.”
    Umm. Communications2013>>>>>Communications2012. Can’t wait for Comms2014.

    • GEAGLE

      Heard we are working on a secret communication system, where we use our eyes to blink the Morse code

      • TNA

        I heard Huls was inserting Chips into everybody’s head so they can communicate instantly. Apparently there will be a live webcast feed of Braman’s thoughts during the game. Should be instant social media hit.

        • Andy124

          Mature viewing audiences only. Content may include violence, maiming and killing.

          • TNA

            Or DJax’s thoughts: I’M OPEN I’M OPEN I’M OPEN

            Or Henery:
            Shiiiit. 37 yd field goal? No chance.

            The best of course would be CK himself
            (Sorry we’re having technical difficulties. Our program and computer systems cannot keep up a feed of calculations and thoughts of this entity.)

          • GEAGLE

            Imagine what runs threw that drunken idiot pip squeaks head before kickoffs? He is probably scared to death…I don’t want any football players who are about as manly as John Gonzo…ATleast Akers was like a brown belt in ju jitsu…we need a thug kicker lol

        • GEAGLE

          Wow..that would be glorious …SPYGATE proof comm systems!!

  • GEAGLE

    We added our 3rd corner, who’s best attributes are playing press coverage…wonder if they will actually get the safety support needed to be allowed to play to their strengths this year…SMH lol it’s amazing how admirably Cary and Brad held up, not even being allowed to play to their strength, which is the reason they were signed.
    ..
    Takes a simpleton to say the eagles don’t value safety play. When we see that lack of safety play cripples our ability to let their corners play to their strength, which happens to be how Chip and Billy want their corners to play. Jenkins is under rated by fans and I promise he is an unquestioned upgrade to what we have had, fans might not like him but he isn’t some scab we settled on, he is exactly who we wanted(I just thought that we blew a quality opportunity to pair him with Ward, but I have to think we still adress safety in one of the top 3 rounds..our corners held up fine last year, let them press with decent safeties behind them and we should be fine on the back end assuming hungry like a Wolff progresses how he is expected to, and we put more pressure on QBs

    • ztom6

      Best defensive performance all year was probably the first Cowboys game. Wolff stood out and had his best game and the CBs played press all day.

      • GEAGLE

        Loved seeing Wolff get that PBU in the redzone man on man against Crafty BIG veteran gates, on an Island…Cary defending the two point conversion against DEZ in a do or die game was one of my fav defensive plays of the year

      • cliff henny

        Wolff pointed in correct direction can play…issue is, the right direction part.

    • Token

      In full on blow Jenkins mode now. You’re a day away from declaring him a stud.

      • Joe L

        I think Jenkins is an upgrade too. But again, that isn’t saying much.

        • GEAGLE

          It’s really not even a question, he is great at nothing, but neither is Connar Barwin, and that doesn’t mean he isnt a very valuable part of our defense…we just got the safety version of Connar Barwin! and fools are too stupid and ignorant to appreciate it….obviously I would have prefered to stick Ward next to him! but not adding Ward doesn’t diminish who Jenk is as a player and how he helps us improve

          • Joe L

            I can agree with all that. At some point this defense is going to need to acquire a playmaker though.

          • Richard Colton

            That’s what we need Joe. 12 starting spots on D and 11 of them could use a “playmaker” upgrade.

          • GEAGLE

            Absolutely…that’s undeniable,e…but this kid was on his way to being a star in this league two years ago. This isn’t some scab. He has plenty of ability for Billy to work with. Jack of all trades, master of none. He was easily the most versatile safety on the market. Where as there were better safeties who were a great at a few aspects of the positions. But once again Chip proves that he values versatility.
            ..
            Sure we need playmakers, that not in doubt..but this kid does make us a better defense. He is very smart and well studied expecting to Quarterback our secondary..while we ran around like chickens with our heads cut off on the back end these past few years..who the hell was making the checks? Nate? Chung lol? A 5th round rookie? Kurt Coleman? Consequently many of the big plays we gave up happened because of communication and pre snap breakdowns thus the infamous pointing…now we have a Demeco Ryan’s type back there that’s going to drastically cut down on the break downs..I know the average simpleton fan can’t appreciate anything but the gamebreaking stud, but this kid should not be being talked about as a bum…then again, the same exact fools who bad mouthed the Barwin signing because their simple brains couldn’t see past the 4sAck down year, are the same exact ones trashing the Jenkins signing..you would think people who spend so much time on this site,care so much about eagles and were proven to be SOOO foolishly wrong, would learn something from time to time…but it’s the same idiots, tainting this kids name…it’s ok, because 365 days from now, I get to throw it in their face how clueless they we about the Jenkins signing

          • Token

            No, he was never on his way to being a star. Where the hell do you come up with this stuff? Hes been a bottom rated safety for years.

          • GEAGLE

            You are such a misinformed idiot that you really do not deserve me responding to you, I don’t do it for you, i do it so you don’t make our fanbase dumber with your absurdities REAL TALK…

            In his first two years in the league he flashed serious potential. Starting as a rookie for SB champion, 2010 his sophmore year, down the stretch he was named NFC player of the week twice in the last 5 weeks of the season when playoffs are on the line…team mates, and DCs used to rave about how great he would be.. Greg Williams AND Soagnuolo were literally both ENAMORED with him..Aex Brown once said he was one of the three truly special players he played with, the other two were Urlacher and Jason Kearse. That’s the equivalent of the high praise Vick gave to Ertz that everyone took and ran with..
            ..
            Kid hasn’t been given much continuity..this will be his 4 defensive coordinator, in what 6 years? Change of scheme, using players in different roles can easily effect production..then they had the abysmal 2012 season when Peyton was suspended and and that entire franchise was as much of a joke as we were the last year under Andy….he isn’t some probowl player, but he is very reliable upgrade, who has all the athletic ability and intelligence we could ask for, and a ton of talent for Billy D to try and get out of him.l.jenkins has been unhappy with the lack of stability and the different roles he was placed in these last two years, and talks a lot about how excited he is about how we will use him..and how we are going to use him the way he was used when he was one of the rising young players in this league…

            Not a GAMECHANGER by any stretch of the immagination but a really quality addition. Look, when talking about additions, the question is pretty damn simple..does this player make us better? Is he better then what we have had? ABSOLUTELY!!!
            And since Cary and Malcom have both held their own thru a friggin Super Bowl run, if we compliment them

          • GEAGLE

            If we compliment them with a playmaker, we will have a nice defense on our hands…but it’s clear we ain’t paying for any playmakers..those game breakers ain’t coming til we draft them

          • RIP illa

            And to think…Rob thought we went away from normal. Well here you go Rob…Token v Geagle. That’s as normal as it gets! :-)

          • Token

            Its awesome how little I can type and how much he can type in response. lol.

          • RIP illa

            I just wanna see the day where both of you guys agree on something…anything. It will be GLORIOUS!!!

          • oreofestar

            It’s Saturday….no it’s Wednesday…NO

          • Andy124

            Ask them what they think of Vick the quarterback.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m more comfortable with my opinion of a player being more in line with that of Chip, Billy Davis, Steve Spagnuollo and Greg Williams, then silly token. I mean we are talking about a fool who raved about how we would be a historically bad defense again and how Billy was a horrible hire lol…excuse me if I don’t put much stock into a known fools opinion of a player he has spent ZERO time watching…we call that a BLOWHARD where I come from..Yous want me to talk about Rafael bush! but I don’t…why? Because I’m not interested in passing along others opinion, nor do I have a problem admitting I. Haven’t watched the player to be able to offer a valuable opinion…

          • Token

            lol but you hated the idea of Jenkins before he was signed. Why do you think everyone forgets? Just stick to your opinions for once is all im saying. The Eagles arent gonna give you a prize for blowing everyone on the team.

          • GEAGLE

            Hated the idea of signing him? Can you ever make an argument using reality? I know you haven’t forgotten my campaign about a month ago guarenteeing to you all the Malcom Jenkins would be an eagle, to the point where people who were against it were actually sold on the idea…I can recall countess messages on this board that said “you sold me on the idea of signing Jenkins” lol but of course you are such a pathetic hater that you can’t even try to tear me down without distorting reality which is probably the ultimate compliment lol
            ..
            I wanted Jenkins AND WARD so that Wolff would go to the bench.dont see how not getting Ward should diminish the signing of Jenkins…The eagles clearly viewed it different and are comfortable with Wolff starting so they only added one starting caliber safety…

            You are consistently a joke, and I can assure you that you can write anything you want and I won’t read it…if other fans are dumb enough to give credence to the joke of an opinion you consistently give, then they deserve to be misled…it’s amazing how someone who has consistently misjudged soooooo many players is still running his mouth. Takes a special type of piece of crap.

          • oreofestar

            GEAGLE come on…just forget it man not worth getting worked up over

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            the sweet comforts of 24/7

          • Token

            No, hes a never was.

          • Token

            The safety version of Connor Barwin. You should pass that along to Lawlor and Spadaro. Theyd love to use that.

          • RIP illa

            Not saying I agree…but that was funny! Upvote!!!

      • Richard Colton

        Silver lining: he can back up the Nickel CB if Boykin goes down. So there’s that. Otherwise I’m not impressed with this FA crop.

        • RIP illa

          But is your wine glass impressed? Now that’s what everybody wants to know!

          • Richard Colton

            He’d be impressed by a Sonoma Merlot – the wine equivalent of Nate Allen. Doesn’t take much for that guy.

        • GEAGLE

          You weren’t impressed with last years FA crop, doesn’t mean they didn’t help us get better

          • Richard Colton

            And I was really impressed when we got Babin and Cullen Jenkins within 24 hours of each other and I was wrong.

            But last year was about volume. getting pieces that fit the brand new offense and defense. changing the culture. scrubbing the stink off. I kinda hoped we were beyond that.

          • GEAGLE

            Just think we need to come to peace with the fact that we ain’t buying no big time playmakers..that GAMECHANGER ain’t walking thru the nova care doors til he is drafted and developed..am I happy about that? No, I wanted Ward next to Jenkins..but we had two oFA periods to see how this new regime would operate, and I think it’s time to come to grips with the fact we are going to have to draft our stars, not sign them..seems to be the reality of the situation..and I think coach/’Front office should have earned some trust by now

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll buy that. A little more urgency at this point would be appreciated, but as long as they’re winning…fine. I’ll still say it’s even $$$ we don’t draft a Safety or OLB in the top 75 picks.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, drafting OLB and Safety, is far from a lock in my eyes..it’s what I want more then anything, sadly my wants mean nothing lol…You are totally correct in saying it’s not a lock..if the best player on the board is a OG, that’s who we will take..think they are so committed to building the right way that they won’t force anything and believe they can compete with what we have now..just think that if they stick to BPA. Keep hitting on players we aquire, the positions will all even out and we will have a Seattle type roster after the 2015 draft..ATleast that’s how I believe they are looking at things..we all want urgency,but we wanted that last year and we got Chung and phillips lol.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            true. regardless of how us armchair GMs feel, this does seem to be the case. I do understand their logic. Just hope until we get that A+ talent, Chip can keep getting 110% out of our current guys.

    • cliff henny

      you defensive guys should retreat, and stand ground at draft. pick either safety or OLB in first 3 rds, cause Kelly’s getting more offense.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah I don’t think that all defensive draft we hope for is coming

      • oreofestar

        Oh Cliff you are probably so happy aren’t you, you want tons of offense and of course you are going to get it while I am sad because I wish we had a nasty defense because I love me some Defense in a perfect world we would draft4 defensive players 2 in the first 3 rounds

        • cliff henny

          funny thing is, i’m a D guy, just reading tea leaves. Eagles could run FB dive 60 times a game for all i care, just want a parade

          • oreofestar

            I am wrong? I always thought you were a huge O guy

          • cliff henny

            dead honest, real life, always found offense boring. given choice, i’d D up every time.

    • JofreyRice

      They can spin it how they want, but money talks. The Jenkins deal is essentially 2 years for 4 mil a pop. Thats exactly what they said they were going to do. Take a shot on a guy on the cheap, and see how it goes. The lack of commitment tells you what they think of the player more than the press conference quotes.

      Say Kendricks finally puts it all together, stops missing open field tackles and learns to use his athletic ability in coverage. Think he gets a 3 year extension? No way. They’ll want to LOCK HIM UP. If they were as in love with a 26 year old Jenkins as they want us to believe, they would have made that commitment. Haunted Howie saw a guy with a lot of good athletic traits and poor NFL production, and applied the batting average approach. Seems pretty cut and dried, to me.

      The real question regards philosophy. Teams like Seattle, San Fran, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, NO all value high level safety play. The Eagles clearly don’t. Will the offense they field be enough to overcome years of organizational neglect? Hopefully.

      • Adam G

        Missing component to that argument is that those teams all had really good front lines/pass rushers, which really makes it easier on safeties.

        • JofreyRice

          Actually its not relevant to the argument at all. They regularly invest and refresh safety totally regardless of that. Maybe the front 7 makes their safeties look better, once they are in place, but they still pony up for safety in the form of FA or the draft.

          • Adam G

            Yes, that’s what I’m saying. As can be seen from salaries, valuable front line players are more important. It’s amazing how much better a front line can make a secondary look. Look at Mitchell this year. And San Fran let their “high end” safety walk.

          • JofreyRice

            Right, but I think you’ve missed my point. Those teams don’t put just anyone back there, hoping the nasty front 7 just makes it easier for them. They invest #1 draft picks or free agency $$$.

            Safety is a position each team views differently, it seems. Some teams subscribe to the idea that its a low money spot. Some don’t. That was the argument. I think the point stands that the teams I mentioned are more the latter than the former.

          • Adam G

            Obviously different coach, but the Eagles spent two 2nd rd picks on safeties. They were just awful picks. Drafting guys effectively and signing guys are two different things. Those teams you mentioned, except for NO, who by chance has an average defense, draft but don’t sign high end safeties. San Fran let Whitner walk.

          • JofreyRice

            Ok, you’re making the argument that the Eagles value safety as much as the teams I mentioned? Or just splitting hairs? I said draft OR free agency, and the eagles have shown they don’t even like to extend safeties for $$$.

            Just take a look at what’s been invested by those clubs at that spot over the years, money, high picks, extensions. They covet talent at those spots and will pay fair market value. The Eagles just have not.

          • Adam G

            It’s not splitting hairs. Hypothetically, if the Eagles by chance drafted a safety who turned out to be a pro bowler I don’t think they would have an issue locking him up long term. Their philosophy of keeping their own talent and filling in with free agency seems to match those teams you mentioned, they just happened to be a lot better at drafting safeties, NO excluded. Its pretty hard to make the argument those teams were successful because of safeties. They were successful because of their whole defense.

          • JofreyRice

            No, I think there is a big difference in the way those teams approach FA and the way the Eagles have with their batting average approach. Eagles are playing free agency in a penny-ante way. Those teams all make pretty big financial/contract commitments to players–even if the length of the contract is to spread out the guaranteed money. They were more sure of a 30 year old Antoine Bethea than we were of a 26 year old Malcolm Jenkins.

            I mean, obviously, all those teams except Pittsburgh drafted a safety in the first round last year, except for the Steelers, who are paying Troy Polamalu 8.25 mil this year, along with paying Mike Mitchell whatever they’re paying him ( a good deal). And they paid Ryan Clark pretty handsomely throughout his career. $$$ =/ success, but it does indicate organizational value. Follow the money, the Eagles don’t spend on Safety.

            When the Eagles drafted Jarrett at the end of the 2nd, it was because they absolutely needed one, after having neglected the position previously. If you believe what you read, they knew there was a significant chance they were reaching. You really think the other teams I mentioned do business like that? Look at Baltimore: they draft Elam in the first, and in addition, bring in Michael Huff and Ihedigbo on contracts, in case Elam has a tough time adjusting. That shows they give a shit about their defense in the middle of the field. Where we sit now, it looks like the Eagles signed a low level batting average free agent to a short deal, and are pairing him with a 5th round 2nd year player that didn’t knock anyone’s socks off. You really see that as similar?

          • Adam G

            Good point about Baltimore, but besides NO this year with Byrd, could you please point out the big financial commitments those teams made recently in FA?

          • JofreyRice

            I said draft/free agency/trades. The point is they cover it one way or another, because they value it. All those teams drafted safeties in the first last year, except PIT. And no, they don’t always hit on their picks. SF missed on Taylor Mays when we were missing on Nate Allen, but still replaced Goldson with a first rounder in Reid. They didn’t shy away just because they missed once. And before losing Whitner, they had traded for him, paying him the ludicrous pre-CBA 1st round contract money, and extending him.

            If the Eagles were going to draft a first round safety, it would be a different story, but I’ll believe that when I see it; and even if I don’t completely subscribe to the “BPA” philosophy, I think it really hamstrings your team if you’re in a situation like the Eagles are in.

            If they were trading for someone like DeMeco Ryans, an established vet that maybe doesn’t fit on his team, that’d be another. But the plan seems to be to churn low-level NFL guys through to see who sticks. That’s a plan I just don’t think is destined for success.

          • Adam G

            Valid, I guess we’ll see what they do and then assess.

      • GEAGLE

        If we don’t prioritize safety in one of the first 3 rounds, I will agree with you doe sure..but I’m not ready to go there until I see what happens in draft number two…it’s hard for me to agree when I know we want our corners to press, we keep signing press corners, yet didn’t have the quality safety play we could trust enough to press. Hard for me to think we don’t value the position when it cost us the ability to allow our corners to play to their strengths and do what we signed them do do….but if we don’t add a real talent at the position in this draft, I will throw my hands up and say F it, we don’t value the damn position…but our DC has always had quality safeties on every staff he has been a part of…so I prefer waiting til after this draft to go there…but time is running out, it needs to be addressed in THIS draft

        • JofreyRice

          If that’s true, then they are setting themselves up to draft for need. And even at 22, I don’t think you can guarantee you won’t get the 3rd safety in the draft, depending on how it shakes out. Also really need a passrusher.

          • GEAGLE

            Exactly why I will be on pins and needles til friggin May(thanks Goodelll, egomaniac even had to F. With the draft date smh)

      • Token

        Its the throw shit against the wall and hope it sticks approach. When you get right down too it.

        Doesnt say a lot about their talent evaluation. They dont trust it very much.

  • Ertz Donut

    Chip and Billy are interested in drafting Lyerla to play OLB.

    • GEAGLE

      Huh? Did someone say Coke?

      • Spfoles

        You don’t put Coke on your donut…?

        • GEAGLE

          I prefer it with my morning coffee…Colombian breakfast baby

  • MattE

    Had a dream we traded up to get Khalil Mack. I was drinking last night.

    • Joe L

      Must’ve been good stuff.

    • Richard Colton

      He would have to drop because a team or two rates Clowney/Barr and possibly Kony ahead of him. Unlikely but possible. Then we would have to make a major move to jump up; considering the Eagles’ draft history – more likely. I give it a solid 5% chance of happening.

      • oreofestar

        That may be stretching it probably closer to like 2%

    • GEAGLE

      Lol I have been awake for about 5 hours, and I literally just realized it’s not Sunday lol

  • RIP illa

    That’s it. I’m officially throwing my hat in the ring for Quentin Demps to return home to the nest. I mentioned it earlier…but hey I was talking to Cliff. He’s too fired up about offense to let possible D signings register…

    He fits the supposed criteria, Vet, ST, Versatile, played in a 3-4, Shouldn’t cost too much, blah blah blah, and is coming off of his best year. He’ll be 29 going into the season. 2 year team friendly contract should get it done.

    • Richard Colton

      too many bad memories and unfulfilled promise.

      • RIP illa

        Sometimes you just gotta forgive and forget. It was mostly Any’s fault anyways! :-)

        • Richard Colton

          Yeah that’s true. Does he still return kicks?

          • RIP illa

            Had a 104 yarder this past season.

        • Andy124

          Sorry.

        • Warhound

          His attitude sucked from day one.

          • RIP illa

            I don’t recall.

          • Warhound

            Before he ever played a down he talked-up how he’d be a day one starter ’cause no undrafted free agent (Mickel) could hold him off.

          • RIP illa

            Ehhh…I don’t know if I could disagree with that kinda thinking or him even voicing it. I need players on our squad to have that kind of confidence. As long as it didn’t cause a locker room rift or any beef between he and Mikell, then I’m good with it. Yes it would have been way better if he actually had some on field time in the league, but whatevs. And of course it would have been way better if his ass could cash the check that his mouth wrote.

          • Warhound

            Yeah, I feel you. It just bugged me that he didn’t know who he was talking about and hadn’t seen him play. He based his position solely on draft order. But, yeah, as many (myself included) have said “it isn’t arrogance if you can back it up”.

          • RIP illa

            Ahh…I get it now and can completely understand.

    • cliff henny

      QD? my only question is, can he play WR?
      .
      nawh, just draft D guys now. how many JAGs can they pound into back end of this roster?
      .
      we’re in Kelly’s world now, sit back, get a cold beer, repeat after me, winning 49-35 is same as winning 20-6

      • RIP illa

        True, but we gotta fill out the 90 man and I wanna see Kelly stick to his word of competition…by bringing in players that can actually compete. Not just guys like Braman and Maragos!

        • Richard Colton

          We’re going to like Braman and Maragos on special teams. The issue was bringing in camp bodies and special teams guys on day 2 & 3 of free agency. Come on Howie!

          • RIP illa

            Agreed. Still, someone said it before and I’m gonna repeat it. Nothing wrong with trying to bring up the ST play, but at least start with players that can give you something on the field and in ST then work your (Howie) way down to just strictly ST aces.

          • Richard Colton

            The way I see it we have two guys who can play safety for more than an emergency spot start: Jenkins & Wolff. They’re going to need at least three before the draft. That still gives them the flexibility to sign a rookie, because Jenkins’ versatility lets you go thin at CB.

          • JofreyRice

            They are really banking on Wolff.

          • Richard Colton

            Sounds like a gamble

          • RIP illa

            A Tom Gamble..Bwahahaha!!!
            Sorry, couldn’t resist.

          • Andy124

            If you didn’t somebody else would have. :)

          • GEAGLE

            Why is it a gamble? They saw him for an entire year. They should have an opinion on his future by now, and if they believe him to be a quality starting caliber safety, it remains to be seen if they are right or not…but they can’t sit here and have no opinion of Him, and I don’t think us not agreeing with their opinion makes it a gamble…hey, I wanted two unquestioned quality free agent starting safeties, with Wolff going to the bench..didn’t get what I want, but this regime has shown to know what they are doing, so nothing to do but hope they are right! yet again

          • Richard Colton

            Less a criticism of the FO and more of Wolff. Between being a rookie and getting injured late in the season, I just didn’t see enough. Have to think they would be more comfortable with a FA like Clemons, then letting Wolff beat him out for the job.

          • GEAGLE

            We seen Wolff like 10 times, coaches saw him like 200 days…I understand us not feeling comfortable, heck I wanted to put him on the bench…I’m just arguing that from our coaches perspective I don’t think it’s really that much of a gamble..they saw him every day from June to December, saw how quickly he improves, saw how much they can put on his plate, how quickly he can digest it, how long it takes to handle the responsibilities placed on him..so if they are comfortable with him starting, I just don’t think that my opinion based on seeing him a grand total of 30hours is in position to question how our coaches view him…but trust me, I’m just as nervous as you are about it

          • Will

            Can Wolff do all the stuff Jenkins can…play in the box, man coverage, play in the slot, tackle, and blits? These were all the things they said they wanted from a Safety. Wolff is still unproven….saw limited action last year….not to mention how durable is Wolff?

          • RIP illa

            Ok I see. Had to think it over for a min, am ale must be getting to me. I usually hate going thin at CB. Agonized over it at the start of last season. I like that Jenkins can move down into the slot, but I think that should be used strictly for on the field/in the play type purposes, opposed to depth chart purposes. Like if we’re in our base and a team decides to flex out a TE or RB. I don’t wanna see him lined up on the slot WR in case Boykin is hurt.

            Yet it is tricky since they did sign Maragos and should still draft a rook. Ugh…Bring in Demps or equivalent, drafted rook (depending on how high the pick) battles it out with Wolff or in a 3 way with Demps and Maragos, cut whoever sucks the most at the position, outside of the rook. I think Demps can contribute just as much as Maragos on ST.

            I’ve been wanting us to steer away from the Colt Anderson Types for awhile now. Roster spots are way too valuable. But now we’re doubling down on it! SMH!!! You already lose 3 spots to your kicker, punter, and long snapper, who never should be making a million…screw you Dorenbos (I can’t tell if that’s genuine hate for his contract or the fact how hot his wife is)…But adding Braman and Maragos on top of that, while they have shown nothing on the field sucks!

          • GEAGLE

            See, I totally agreed, which is why I put a premium on guys like Corey Graham, who would increase our ST, while also increasing the quality of our depth and talent level in subpackages.,,.then I saw him command 16million dollars on the market and be given a starting Nickle CB spot…
            ..
            But Nolan was that type of signing..a guy we can be more comfortable playing on defense then Roc or that trash Marsh, who will also make our ST unit better..
            ..
            I don’t know much about Maragos but I’m assuming he is an upgrade to Colt

            Casey set the bar pretty low for Braman,,,plus his psychopath side helps me overlook his lack of OLB ability, although Cossell says he had a good showing as an OLB in last years preseason..so hopefully he has more OLB. Ability for our coaches to work with then we think….but I knew next to nothing about the two ST aces we signed before we got them, so I can’t really have much of an opinion..

          • Adam G

            Looks like Carroll is going to play special teams.

        • GEAGLE

          Word is Braman had a good preseason last year at OLB. Barwin and Meco thought enough about him to help recruit him! never imagined a player like him would be the type you recruit, but that’s another story….I don’t know much about his game but when you backup Barwin with Casey Mathews, I’m under the assumption that anyone is an upgrade….and if he doesn’t adequately develop his OLB game, ATleast we will still get solid ST contributions..which is why I’m against the Nate Allen types who if they don’t pan out defensively! bring little to the team

          • RIP illa

            Let’s hope he can be of value other than ST.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        What about an off day by the offense in a do or die game?…a la Broncos/’Hawks in SB?

        We need a bad ass pass rusher!

    • GEAGLE

      I’m trying to forget the Andy era aka the irrational era..everytime I try to get out, they pull me back

  • Tom w

    Need a kicker. Need another safety before draft so we dont have to draft for need. Could say same thing about olb if we are trading graham. Kinda glad we waited till fifth last yr to get a safety … Shows we won’t push that need up unless he is close to bpa ….

    • GEAGLE

      I’m almost getting to the point where I don’t want to see them sign another safety so they have no choice but to prioritize it in the draft…we ain’t getting a star safety til he is drafted, so rather them be forced to draft a safety.

      • oreofestar

        Which is why I hope Dix or Pryor is there and that tons of wrs are taken because you know Chip just wants more offense

        • GEAGLE

          Just because they are the first round safeties doesn’t mean they are the only ones that can become stars..,
          ..
          I also think that if we like Jenkins and Wolff as much as they are perceived to like them, then the safety we draft doesn’t have to be the prototypical starting safety. If we want Wolff and Jenk to be the safeties of the future, it allows us to go with Ward or Joyner(that for you Rob)…if they are just looking at Jenka no Wolff as stop gaps til they find the starting answer, then we have to go the traditional safety route with guys like Reynolds,or Buchanon…

          Mssed out on Corey Graham, so I wouldn’t mind bringing in Lamarcus joyner to play that S/CB hybrid, dime CB. 3rd safety in our 3 safety looks. Corey is similar but is more CB then safety! where as Joyner is probably more safety then CB…
          ..
          A quality backup and subpackages DB like Graham got 4yrs 16′

          • GEAGLE

            Thought he would get half of that…if a quality subpackages DB cost 16mil it may not be the worst idea to draft ours, and take Joyner

          • oreofestar

            I know it does not have to be first round Jimmy Ward is a guy I like for us a lot in the second

          • Adam G

            Doesn’t seem like he will be there

          • oreofestar

            unfortunately I believe you are correct, I really like him though wouldn’t mind trading down and getting ODB in the first and the trading up for Ward in the second but they would never trade up in the second

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I am absolutely not convinced we’re done at the safety position. In bringing in Jenkins, while a good thing, really opened us up to needing to find someone opposite him that can play both SS & FS, or hybrid, if you will. Wolff looks like he could be a player some day, but with basically what equates to a handful of games, I’m not sure I’d be comfortable leaving the “lone Wolff” all by his lonesome while we’re disguising looks with Jenkins and playing him up in man or short zone coverage, or possibly even blitzing. Last yr for the handful of games that Nate & Wolff played, Davis didn’t seem too comfortable blitzing from the safety spot using Nate & leaving Wolff isolated & exposed. They’d rotate Wolff up on the safety blitz and shuffle Nate deep. At least in that stretch of games when we had both Nate & Wolff playing rather improved. I gotta believe that we add someone versatile enough to be trusted isolated deep, to allow us to utilize Jenkins they way they seem intent to.

    • oreofestar

      They have to draft a safety, they do not have a choice the question is when and can he be coached up into something good, last year Wolff had horrible tape and ended being a 5th rounder who seemed destined to be a career backup at best and we turned him into a fringe starter who looked solid at times, imagine what we could do with Pryor, bucannon or even Bailey and Dixon

      • RIP illa

        No to bailey. Absolutely went from meh to full blown hate, for me.
        I was meh about Bucannon also, but now I think he maybe the best of the bunch for us! I’m still holding onto Ward. Kid is good and can man cover, we always need guys that can man up. Just wish he was bigger or put on some more muscle.

        However, I don’t think Bucannon will be in play for us in the 2nd, just like how I don’t think Dix or Pryor would be there in the 1st. And something, in the back of my mind, about Pryor just makes me not like him. Anyway, Ward is the strongest/best fit possibility I see. My dark horse, for later rounds, is Terrance Brooks from FSU. I wouldn’t mind at all if we waited to draft him. My dark than dark horse, I’m talking about Wesely Snipes dark, still hinges on the hope that we can schedule a private workout, brainwash him to finally accepting what should be a perfect position and money maker for him, and draft…wait for it…Telvin Smith!!!

        • oreofestar

          I have not seen much on Telvin need to look at him, Bailey could be an option in the 4th, Bucannon is a guy that will be an early second so we will have to see on that I like Ward too should have mentioned him and Dix and Pryor have a bettr chance at being at 2 now because the Steelers signed Mitchell the Cowboys D Line is garbage and the Bears like the Eagles do not value safeties that much

          • RIP illa

            Just to be clear on Smith, he’s a 6’3 OLB from FSU. Blazing fast, Carries a ton when he hits, and can cover TEs and RBs just as well as most safeties and even some CBs.
            Problems are, even for an OLB he’s severely light in the ass.

            Weighing in at 218, hasn’t shown any way he can get in the mid 230s. He also struggles to get off blocks, more than the college prospect norm. And can be straight up stonewalled by RBs on blitzes. I observed and noted how, mainly Taliferro, and other RBs killed his draft stock during Senior Bowl practices, in the one on one pass pro drills. But he bounced back with his combine performance.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          to me, none are worth drafting earlier than 50. If we can get another late 2nd or early 3rd, the guys I like the most are:
          Joyner, Ward, Ed Reynolds, Dontae Johnson, Tre Boston, Dixon

          • RIP illa

            I forgot about your boy Joyner, my bad (serious about that, can’t believe I F’n forgot about him). So you are saying none of them before our 2nd rd pick? If so I completely agree.
            I still like Johnson as a CB prospect, so I don’t wanna think conversion yet. That would be for McGill, at least in my mind. And besides Smith, I purposely left converts off the list. Tre used to be my dark horse, but I hated his performance at the combine. For a former CB, I thought he’d move way better. Apparently, that’s why he was switched to Safety. I’m still so meh on Dixon and have yet to find an understanding of the Reynolds love I see on draft boards and mocks.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            So you are saying none of them before our 2nd rd pick?

            exactly. We can upgrade our rush significantly with those picks. I’d much rather that; will make entire secondary better.

            Also, after Ward/Joyner, the guys I listed pry won’t go before 4th. I think at that point it’s worth it, Boston and Reynolds looked better in game action than combine or all-star stuff

          • RIP illa

            Completely agree. That’s why I’ve been pushing Ward and Brooks so much. Especially after the Jenkins signing. I thought it was a wrap, concentrate on other positions and just draft later guy(s) that can hopefully make something of themselves and be patient and wait for our chance to get the next Dawk equivalent.

          • oreofestar

            Well who are we getting to upgrade the rush at 22

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I could give you about 12 options. OLB and ILB are deeeeep

          • oreofestar

            Not at 22 I mean further down the line is when I am going OLB not 22 because I agree KVN, Jones, Smith and others later are great options

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I agree, but if Barr, Ford, or Ealy drop and the coaches love him, go for it.
            Really have no idea about 22. Maybe WR?
            I’ve always preferred they trade back from that personally. Real excited to see how it plays out.

          • GEAGLE

            DLINE will prob be considered if we don’t add anyone to the rotation in FA…we lost Gaethers, can’t be too in love with Square, plus I have a simple motto, “if you get trucked by a cowboy, you gots to go”..sure we get Krugs, but I don’t know that we can just pencil him into the rotation…need 6 DL that we ćan rotate

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Sure, i get all that. Rotation is key. But with 3 starters set, I’m not a fan of DL at 22. In a 34 defense, not a good use of resources.
            And this is coming from a huge Hageman fan. But guys like Ellis, Kerr, Carruthers, etc. can be had much much later

          • GEAGLE

            Kerr or Ellis work just fine for me

          • GEAGLE

            Dee ford and Kony are prob the only pass rusher that go in that range..
            ..
            If we don’t add a Carrington or Wooten to our DL. We will have to add one to our rotation thru the draft

        • Richard Colton

          If Telvin Smith doesn’t want to play safety – do you still want him?

          • RIP illa

            Hell no. I love the idea, but the kid just can’t get his weight up. I don’t care what the FO’s knee and wrist measurements would say.

        • cliff henny

          snipes dark, too funny. reminds me of Chappelle’s murphy/james skit.

  • Adam G

    It seems apparent as much as everybody wants to discuss who the Eagles should draft and for what reason with respect to how they fit from a playing perspective, this coaching staff puts huge emphasis on interviews/character. That’s the common thread with all the signings and guys they drafted. And we have no idea how players are interviewing.

    • RIP illa

      Explain Braman???
      No, we know this already and some of us have expressed, not necessarily displeasure but more of a…there needs to be exceptions for kids that can play, kinda tone to the whole character thing.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        what’s wrong with Braman? hallucinagen mushrooms are waaaaay down on the scale, compared to guns/beating women/driving over people. And that was years ago, clearly he’s a target of NFL drug testing policy but has (1) never tested positive, and (2) backed his way into NFL and clearly showed he has talent to belong.
        I don’t see him as a big risk at all. Pry even less than Lyerla

        • RIP illa

          Hey man, I love people who have or still trip. That shit is fun!!! I view it the same way I do herb. I was just bringing it up for purposes of the whole high character, blah blah blah thing. Like I’ve said, as long as a player isn’t habitually doing or being caught doing a number of the things you listed, I don’t really care. As long as he’s he can play and not to say that I don’t have lines drawn.
          I’m just anti-high character, end all be all.

          • cliff henny

            It really is fun

      • Adam G

        I have no idea their opinion of him while talking to him, but more so than exceptions, it seems like high character/good interviews elevate a players standing. He’s also a minor player that made a mistake a long time ago. My point is all of these players that are slotted to the eagles in mock drafts, or discussed in the comment section, we literally have no idea how these interviews are going.

        • RIP illa

          Next step in the NFL Draft Prospect Evaluation Coverage…Live cameras inside the interview rooms!!!!

          • cliff henny

            imagine? might as well sign me up for foot stamps feb-june

      • Kev_H

        I think it is more about players being able to handle Kelly’s philosophy of playing football rather than some intrinsic attraction to character. He wants guys who are plugged in, team oriented, and who can make quick, smart, decisions. If you don’t have 11 guys on the field who can do that they won’t be able to do what he wants to do.

        Chip is advancing football. Your team is better if everyone trains right, sleeps right, and eats right and THAT is what they care about. There are many in the NFL who like to stay out late and eat poorly-even team’s who feed their guys poorly. It just so happens that “character guys” tend to have those qualities that Chip feels lead to team success but I don’t think Kelly cares a whit about character for its own sake.

        • Adam G

          Your argument is semantics. You could call those things character. Saying he cares a whit about character for its own sake doesn’t make sense.

          • Kev_H

            Let me try another angle. He mentioned P. Manning. What makes him great? His arm isn’t exceptionally strong etc, but at this point in football he can figure out exactly what the other team will do and exploit it. Chip is trying to move beyond that sitting duck mentality but you can only do that if you have a team who can all think together on the fly and play diverse roles.

            Forrest Gump was great at football and was off the charts in the character department. I don’t think Kelly has any use for forest and I don’t think he cares that Cooper has apparently been a spoiled jerk his whole life. Cooper can think and adjust on the field and is an asset in the run game and on special teams. That’s what Kelly cares about. He doesn’t care if Cooper is a jerk, a fascist, cheats at checkers or is mean to kids.

          • Adam G

            I’m just pointing out specifically to the draft, which was my original point and specific quotes from Chip. Not so much deduction or guessing what is going on through his thought process.

          • Kev_H

            Not really deducting or guessing. Kelly is very straightforward – “dumb guys are more likely to make dumb mistakes” doesn’t matter if you are going to play Forrest Gump because he doesn’t have anything to think about- run Forrest, get the QB, cover that guy- Kelly has made it very clear that those types of players, though great, aren’t good fits for his team. He wants guys who can do a variety of things at a high level and for his unit to be able to think on the field quickly as one.

            If you know that OLB Derrick Thomas – an all-time great and Hall of Famer- is going to speed rush every play, you can exploit it. So Kelly wants a Derrick Thomas who has the physical ability to stuff the run, rush the passer,and drop into coverage and the mental ability to be able to learn those positions well enough that he can switch from one thing to another in an instant in coordination with his team, something that requires disciplined study. The speed rush every play Derrick Thomas, as great as he was, has no value to Kelly, since it inhibits the defense and leaves them more vulnerable to the Peyton Mannings of the world.

            So I guess what I’m trying to point out is that a player, no matter how talented or skilled he is, doesn’t have much value to the Eagles if he isn’t flexible, smart, and have the discipline to master more responsibilities than the typical football player. That’s not guessing. Every other word out of Roseman’s and every third word out of Kelly’s mouth this time of year is “fit” as in “good fits for us”. I don’t think they are going after boy scouts, but if a college football player had academic trouble despite his team of professional, personally dedicated academic advisers helping him every step of the way, he’s not going to be useful to the Eagles on the field- no matter how great he is physically, because their expectations regarding study and mental mastery that will allow him to play and contribute are surely much higher than 80% of the classes he took in college, if not all of them.

          • Adam G

            It’s actually the definition of deduction. You are taking what you think you know about Chip Kelly and applying it to previous players and fictional movie characters, which by the way, is absurd. Pretty sure Chip Kelly would find a place for a returner who consistently returned kicks for TDs. Straw man argument.

        • RIP illa

          Yeah I know all this and such. I primarily don’t give a damn.
          And to say that Chip is “advancing football” is going way overboard, especially since he’s in the infancy stage of his career. There have been plenty of coaches who preach the Hulk Hogan philosophy…Say your prays and eat your vitamins…This is not something new, this has been around for decades!!!

          I fully appreciate the whole good decisions off the field equal good decisions on the field, and to take it into what you are saying, buying in to his philosophies and ideas and such. But I’m not gonna sit up here and say that it must be adhered to on a rigid basis, when deciding who to bring in or not. Some of my greatest football heroes did the exact opposite and are unquestionable legends of the game and truly advanced the sport.

          It needs to be a case by case basis and there definitely needs to be exceptions made when they are warranted. I play the middle on these type of things…I always do.

      • GEAGLE

        Explain Braman? You mean the love child of Jesus and Incognito? Should tear down the rocky statue and replace it with Braman, he is a philly saint!! :)

  • Spfoles

    Im curious if we are comfortable with the amount of draft picks we currently have and if there’s even a way to get some more? Brown, Graham, and Cole for sure demand decent picks but I don’t see many teams looking to give up picks in this years draft. Maybe we are just waiting for some cut/cap casualties.

    • Richard Colton

      What in your opinion qualifies as a decent pick? I don’t see anyone on your list getting us more than a 5th. And that’s being generous.

      • oreofestar

        Then get a 5th for Brown or something which would essentially mean yu gave up Brown for Sproles

        • Richard Colton

          Brown for a 5th would be a fleecing. Don’t see it happening.

          • oreofestar

            I know…:P

          • cliff henny

            i’m hanging up the phone before hearing 2nd ‘f’ sound

      • Spfoles

        Graham possibly but yeah I’m sceptical they can get better than a fifth as well.

  • oreofestar

    The Eagles are so nasty in Madden right now!!! SPROLES!!!

    • RIP illa

      HaHa. I’m gonna try them out, but I can’t get away from this board.

      • oreofestar

        Yes I played with Us and the Lions just so ridiculous…

    • GEAGLE

      The exciting part about adding him, is that type of player was SOOO crucial to chips offense for some of the Oregon years whe lamicheal James was the most important player on that offense. They actually used to call him baby Sproles, how damn exciting is it that Chip now has the real thing…whether it’s by formation design, motion, stacking him behind Ertz, Chip is a master at creating space for this type of player to do serious damage….if defenders don’t stack the box we pound it up he middle, if they do stack the box Chip like so throw those swing passes to lamicheal or send him in motion….lol I can’t believe the NFL let Chip get his hands on Sproles when he been talking about cheap knock offs like DAT and McCluster…

      • oreofestar

        This offense is so destructive and if Chip gets my man Devante Adams is the second…my God I do not know a team besides Seattle that cold keep us under 40, not the defense on the other hand…

        • GEAGLE

          I don’t think there is any doubt that Chip will draft a serious WR prospect…I also don’t put it pass them to draft two of them or another TE…
          ..
          I will say that it’s time for Bryce to crap or get off the pot. His inexperience can no longer be used as an excuse, this will be year two In chips scheme..if we don’t trade him, he needs to realize that potential..
          ..
          With his combo of size, power and speed, he should be automatic this year in those short 3yards and less situations. We fixed his fumbling issues so there is hope..the next major issue that needs to be fixed in his game is simple..he clearly still runs like a college RB who thinks he can bounce anything outside, get around the edge and turn the corner whenever he wants, which is what Gus of his talent level get away with at the college level..this isn’t something that’s impossible to correct, but it needs to get FIXED THIS year if he isn’t traded..think his rookie success may have hurt him a bit because he was getting around the corner at will. Last year he should have gotten a reality check that, it won’t fly at this level..need to see him make that adjustment in year 3

          • oreofestar

            In a perfect world we trade down to 30 pick up San Fran’s second 2 then get ODB and Ward and Smith slip to our 2s and Christian Jones gets to our 3rd if we got ODB, Smith, Ward and Jones….dang

          • oreofestar

            and before Adam or someone else says that can never happen, this is not possible blah blah blah I said in a perfect world

          • GEAGLE

            You seem to suffer from too many wants, and not enough draft picks syndrom. I have the same disease and it typically flares up this time of year

          • oreofestar

            I know, there are too many players I want and too many positions I want to fill and if it were up to me I am going crazy defense but I have to account for the fact that Kelly is going take at least 1 or 2 skill position players

          • Tom w

            Gotta trade down twice if we can’t trade 22 w niners for two late seconds and a third. More likely they trade up w 30 and give us their third. Then we need to trade down again from 30 to mid 40s and get another third and fifth. If teams were smart the teams that need qbs would trade back into first at 30 and take a garrapolo or Carr etc because they get the rookie qb one extra year when it’s a first rounder vs second rounder. Could save a team 15 mil in the long run

          • Adam G

            Ha, I’m ok with draft trade speculation that follows the chart, because those trades have the possibility of working. Not ok with some people that champion trade ideas that have absolutely 0 chance of happening.

          • GEAGLE

            Good to know the parameters of what you deem acceptable. Think we can all be at peace now. Thanks

          • Adam G

            Oh ok, glad to see you chime in. Keep on crafting scenarios that are not possible in reality. And keep on making your lists. Maybe Howie will be interested in “your guys” for the draft.

          • GEAGLE

            Thought. We we stablished that I wouldn’t read your responses to my posts lol…BUT have at it pal

          • Adam G

            What are you a girl? You respond to my comments, but not ones that are in response to you? Seriously, how old are you? You truly are a keyboard warrior. I’m sure your regular life is swell that you can’t wait for new 24/7 stories so you can be one of the first posters.

          • GEAGLE

            ….

          • Adam G

            Exactly. Must stink knowing everybody knows on a comment board how much of a loser you are. Seriously, its so obvious when you are commenting on one thread, then when a new story gets posted you switch to that story. You must LIVE for those upvotes.

          • Tikkit

            Girls! Girls! Stop. You’re BOTH pretty.

          • oreofestar

            lol

          • Adam G

            Never said I was pretty, just that Geagle is not much of a looker.

        • cliff henny

          40? mean Mike Evans are insulted

          • oreofestar

            With Evans 50 except Seattle would keep us to like 35

          • cliff henny

            I meant halftime!

          • oreofestar

            I was talking about first quarter

          • cliff henny

            welcome to the darkside my friend. hold your wife’s hand, stare at the sun and repeat w/ me, 55-38 is same as 27-10

          • oreofestar

            Don’t have a wife, I did not join the darkside and a good defense is way more entertaining, watching a defense strangle and offense is pure bliss that I why I loved the SB. 7-3 is my LIFE!

          • cliff henny

            wrong team brother,wrong team. wouldn’t blink if Kelly went WR RB TE1,2,3 this draft…moooooooooooore weapons!

          • oreofestar

            STACK the defense trade the entire offense besides Shady we can get Thomas III, Haden, Quinn, Suh and Matthews

      • RIP illa

        Really Geags??? You gonna get all technical when we talkin about madden???
        I’m we talkin about madden…lol.
        We are seriously unstoppable in that game!!!

        • oreofestar

          No really I was just destroying our team is so ridiculous on offense,

          • RIP illa

            Yeah I know. Won’t be able to stand it next year, if I get it all…just such shitty quality of a game, how many pole jockers are gonna jump and use Philly without having any real appreciation for our squad.

          • oreofestar

            I know now people are just going to use our stacked offense I was think about if Vick went to the Vikings….Jeez him and AP in Madden together…..

        • GEAGLE

          Lol sorry A.I…..haven’t played it in like 3years lol.. Play it a lot in Italy when it’s hard to get my NFL fix

  • GEAGLE

    I keep seeing this rumor going around that Chip said “I think we are done in free agency” but I can’t find any proof it was said..anyone can confirm or deny this with any certainty? We didn’t sign anyone yesterday and the natives are getting restless..I need some eagles action today

    • oreofestar

      Well Chip did specifically say that there are still holes on the roster than need to be addressed you can take that as they are not done unless he was just talking about the draft

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah I can find those Chip quotes, but I can’t find anything suggesting the rumor I’m talking about was true…hopefully it’s bogus

        Are we not bringing FAs in for Visits? Or is all our media that clueless that we haven’t been given a single heads up about a player visiting us?

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      I saw Spuds on twitter asked where people saw it too. I never read it anywhere either.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah Spads hasn’t seen it, and he says we still have open dialog with many players….he also said he doesn’t think Coleman and Nate would be brought back. Tough to know when he giving his opinion or when he heard something….I don’t like Spads very much, but his patience is impressive,, all day long eagles fans bombard him with the stupidiest questions possible, and he takes the time to answer most

        • Tom w

          I have it on a strong source that the ravens safety was in town yesterday and met w the eagles Sounds like he is in between agents and going to lions but who knows.

          • GEAGLE

            I would LOVE that…I just worry because we probably can’t offer the GUARENTEED starting position the lions can offer him and his former coach runs the lions defense, but he would be an awesome high Charecter depth signing who also improves our ST…love to see us give him a two year deal hahaha everyone wants to refer to him as “the ravens safety” no one wants to try and say or spell his name…wonder if Merrill Reese will refer to him as “the ravens safety” when he plays for us next yeah lol. If he signs our first order of business is finding a suitable nickname for that dude

          • oreofestar

            I really do not like Ihedigbo I know I am in the minority though

          • GEAGLE

            Starting safety? I don’t like him either..,but as a bench player he increases the talent level of our DB depth and ST…depends what role he is being signed to fill…didn’t give a crap about him when FA started, but he starts looking sexy when your options are Nate, major,Clemons ..ATleast he is a known leader. And ST BALLER..those other options don’t even bring that to the table

            Panthers signed Roman Harper

            Browns got Ben Tate

          • oreofestar

            Did not know Panther got Harper he is gonna start or them though I mean the Panthers really are not looking too good right now

          • GEAGLE

            Think his old ass is starting..not sure tho..

          • oreofestar

            There starting safeties were Mitchell and Mikell one is a steeler and the other one is likely not coming back

          • GEAGLE

            Great another team we will be competing with for safeties in the draft…sigh

          • oreofestar

            They are 28 though also they have NO WRS they lost Ginn and Smith and Lafell is a FA, plus Gross retires so they need a Tackle and Captain went to MIN so they need a Corner

          • Richard Colton

            His name is “iggypop” until further notice

          • oreofestar

            Ihedigbo does not sound as good as iggypop so we will roll with that

          • GEAGLE

            Reminds me too much of iguadala…those wounds haven’t healed yet

          • Maggie

            It’s okay. I know who Iggy Pop is. Could be a good name if he plays a little wild and crazy.

          • GEAGLE

            I am a passenger…and I ride and I ride..always make Me wanna ride .that’s my Ish

          • cliff henny

            me him, dude is fried, cool ass dude though.

    • Tom w

      Never said it

    • PhillySean
      • GEAGLE

        Is that the quote about still having holes to fill? Just tell me, I won’t contribute to that sites “clicks”

        • PhillySean

          yes.

          • GEAGLE

            Thank you

    • cliff henny

      no offensive guys let

  • Michael Myers

    hey, at least we have foles, and his quick release!

    nice vid

  • GEAGLE

    Someone please report an eagles signing. It’s been two days, I’m going thru withdrawal…I’ll take a rumor they heard, heck it can be from LaConfora or Les Bowan at this point…

    Interesting ALL 22 for Mr. Kapadia would be on how Chip used “baby Sproles” Lamicheal James at Oregon

    • oreofestar

      I am hoping for one 2 still some interesting guys left

  • GEAGLE

    Gil Brandt calling Calvin Pryor “a carbon Copy of Earl Thomas”

    • oreofestar

      I know some others don’t but I love this kid I think he can be a lot like Kam Chancellor maybe surpass him in skill

      • GEAGLE

        Been high on him for months…seen enough of him to where I don’t really care about the combine..just don’t think either safety lasts so I try not to think about him and hope for a surprise

        • oreofestar

          I know I want him so badly, only problem is Chip is obsessed with offensive weapons and leaves defense guys like us in the dust

          • Maggie

            Really? And how many offensive players have they signed in FA?

          • oreofestar

            3 plus 2 extensions and just like last year he will use premium picks for them you do not remember 3 of the first 4 picks being offense

          • GEAGLE

            Look at who you are talking to lol..gotta give her time to hit up Wikipedia to answer u :) lol

          • cliff henny

            more offense!

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, your friggim drunk with offense :)

          • cliff henny

            alcohol poisoning If Evans falls to eags

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      he’s been eating some of Braman’s mushrooms, apparently

      • cliff henny

        ummmmm, leftovers?

    • Rambler

      “Carbon” copy in that they both are made up of carbon.

  • GEAGLE

    Another day, another no new signing…our defense is so damn good that it only needed Malcolm Jenkins lol….we are so awesome that we only had use for 3 out of 150 free agents lol…does that mean we going to SB? :)

    • cliff henny

      hang 50, it just doesn’t matter…it just doesn’t matter (meatballs)

      • GEAGLE

        Swear I hope we go 2-14 and average 50pts scored on offense :)

        • cliff henny

          inconceivable! also watched princess bride the other day

          • Neanderthal

            Chung laid some big hits last yr. ( oh taking out own players don’t count???)

  • oreofestar

    Wow I am so sorry for my friend he has been devastated about Steve Smith it seems Panthers fan are really upset about it, kinda like me when Dawk left

  • GEAGLE

    Carrington getting on my nerves,,put me out of my misery and sign with someone damn it…what are you waiting for? A GM to get on his knees and pop the question? Come on prom queen sign a damn contract so I can stop refreshing the news!!!
    ..
    Aleast lawler and Hendrix will beat the crap out of each other for my amusement

    • cliff henny

      yawn,defense

      • GEAGLE

        Are you still all geeked up on your offense high? You can tell it’s been a while since you left philly, proud Hard HITTING. Defense city…it’s my lifelong goal to bring you back from the dark side :)

  • cliff henny

    thanks, get bent! sure tonight is special

    • GEAGLE

      I remember my first Beer. Lol @ dudes on a bar crawl talking bout living in Parents basements classic.

      • cliff henny

        unreal. lived in LA 4 7 yrs, this clown pulled1 fat irish pastsy NE/jersey trash broad out of a Houlihans and think he can talktrash. f’n clown.

        • GEAGLE

          Lol…silly boy saw his first booby, and it only cost him some beads

          • cliff henny

            in fairness, we do post a lot, 1% is 30 for me. hate to say it, but I’ve hung up my whoring shoes,but ran though that long long long time ago. pretty boring life now. hope he’s stepping in, but doubt it

        • NickS1

          He’s posting at 9:30 on a Saturday night. He didn’t pull anything. This post is quite telling of that.

          • cliff henny

            pre-party on pm 24/7. hell,i admit in early40′s just cant watch tv for more than 8 seconds. castle, that detective Is smoking, she gets thru dinner

  • GEAGLE

    Emmanuel Sanders is signing with the Broncos who apparently don’t have to abide by salary gap rules because they signed everyone

    • oreofestar

      OH MY GOD!!!

      • GEAGLE

        Belicek is thinking about trying to Tame Kenny Britt???doesn’t he know Not every horse can be broken. What’s next, Titus young?

        • NickS1

          As long as he doesn’t kill a person or three I’m sure Bill doesn’t care.

          • oreofestar

            I bet if Hernandez was not caught and only Bill knew he killed someone, he would not even tell

    • cliff henny

      see peppers. dallas fans were thinking they could get 2 yrs 8m. increase in cap is killing them,just like I thought

      • GEAGLE

        Surprised you ain’t in tears over us not signing Sanders? How big of you to let someone else have a WR

        • cliff henny

          I just want Evans. Heidi Klum could be tied naked to my bed, and Howie’s holding 29 hr hard-on pill, choice is pill or evans…I’d choose Evans

          • oreofestar

            Is there a reason a defensive player was not an option?

          • cliff henny

            yeah, mack looks like Seal. 1 decent song and that acid face is violating my girl Heidi. just not right

          • oreofestar

            Since everyone dashes my dreams of Byrd or Revis I have to dash yours man because there is zero chance Evans gets to 22

          • cliff henny

            I know, old dirt mcgirt is fine

          • oreofestar

            I hope he is not there, I hope all the great O guys are gone so they HAVE to draft defense

          • cliff henny

            beckham is needed in case mac or jax fly coop in ’15

          • oreofestar

            I will be beyond pissed if Jackson is gone, and Maclin will not be hard to retain and even if he leaves you do not need to spend your 2014 first round pick on WR unless it is Evans or Watkins who will be gone

          • cliff henny

            Kelly’s not loosing 26-24 too many times again. 26should be easy W’s in his head.

          • oreofestar

            If we were to draft WR first round I hope we keep Jax and Mac still I would love to have a ridiculous offense where people are killing themselves for touches it is just that Denver had a stacked o last year and look what happened they got raped

          • cliff henny

            perfect storm. not saying seattles D wasnt great, but some people are being prisoners of the SB. they had issues couple of times. nfl is so terribly O weighted, i’ll take my chances building unstoppable offense faster than unbeatable defense.

          • oreofestar

            But imagine our O if the defense could get off the field, Our Offense is already unstoppable in Madden if we could get off the field imagine it in real life

          • cliff henny

            you know it’s a joke, right. I want wr in rd 1 or 2 b/c just too much talent, other has to be olb. dying 4 christen smith in 3rd. love to find another 3rd and use that for safety. but dead serious on mike evans, falls to #22,i’ll need help knowing who was drafted 3 days later, i’ll be on a bender

          • oreofestar

            I know we will draft a wr early no matter how much I wish we would not I would like it if they take Devante Adams in the second and just forget offense for the rest of the draft until we get Coke Lyerla

          • Nfl All Day

            We’ll regret not getting one of these wrs. 8 wasn’t huge on Byrd, but the one caveat was his ability to give the ball back to the offense. That’s why I’m pitching Jared Allen hard. We should be up BIG, often. We need to be prepared to play a lot pass coverage and rush the QB. F- the scheme, we’re up 17, give me Trent,& Allen on the ends, Cox and Thornton inside, work their hands on the ground, GETTIN IT! There’ll be plenty of opportunities to use him effectively.

  • NickS1
  • cliff henny

    PS … upvote for unwarranted/unprovoked attack have to stay consistent whether it’s others or myself

  • Joe L

    I’d love to see the Eagles take a shot on a guy like Henry Melton. Recovering from ACL surgery, but when healthy showed a Geno Atkins-like ability to push the pocket from the interior. I think, at the very least he could challenge Thornton for PT if not act as a fantastic pass rushing complement.

    • cliff henny

      dallas has been linked to him forever. they almost have no choice but to over pay so, in that regard, yeah,run the price p on desperate JJ.

      • Joe L

        I’ve seen him linked to Seattle too, which would be ridiculous.

        • oreofestar

          I hope they do not pull a Denver and try and go crazy I mean I would say they need to worry about their 11 class but so does Denver and they did not give a damn

          • cliff henny

            Denver cap is actually fine. issue is age of roster. once manning is gone, will be bunch of cherry guys. be doing same if I was them

          • oreofestar

            NO it really is not fine, they have 8mil not counting Sanders but what happens next year when they have to deal with bgger uglier cap hits and Thomas, Welker, Miller, Thomas and Knighton are FA

          • cliff henny

            they have pretty good future cap, it’s not that terribly leveraged withal these signings surprisingly enough. but will be playing a ton of vet, so when manning leaves, it’ll be total turnover.

          • oreofestar

            There is no way they get all these guys back though

          • cliff henny

            issue with playing all those vets. manning leaves, so will vets. then playing bunch of bench guys. no doubt they went for 2yr window. I would to

          • oreofestar

            and I hope their plan fails they get raped by the Eagles in the superbowl and then I would love nothing more than in 2016 to rape the Patsies in the bowl

          • Joe L

            Big rape fan, eh?

          • cliff henny

            yeah, bad choice of words…how about sodomize?

          • Warhound

            Just remember: Rape and Pillage and then Burn.

          • oreofestar

            oh yeah…

          • Joe L

            You probably have to notify your neighbors when you move into a new neighborhood. Haha

          • oreofestar

            Why? so the Eagles offense has to notify that they are rapists to defenders lol

          • oreofestar

            I did not even talk about Franklin, Moore, Harris, Vickerson on top of Welker, Thomas, Miller, Thomas, Knighton that is a lot of MONEY!

        • cliff henny

          good,cowboys are going to be hot tire fire garbage this yr. then, ’15, get to figure out room’s 29m cap number. yup 29m!

    • JofreyRice

      I wonder if something is up with that ligament. Difference-maker when healthy. Been a few days and I haven’t seen any team linked to him.

      • Joe L

        Seems like he’s been bouncing back and forth between Dallas and Seattle. I’m sure based on his recent play he and his agent are asking for more than teams are willing to pay for a guy 5 months off ACL surgery.

      • Token

        Last I heard he was going to Seattle. go figure.

  • Eagles1018

    Thought the eagles faithful would like this (if you haven’t seen this). From Malcolm Jenkins Twitter:

    Malcolm Jenkins
    @MalcolmJenkins
    Glad to see @DarrenSproles is coming with me! Good luck trying to match up against him and @CutonDime25

  • Nfl All Day

    If Ihedigbo was a no brainer at the start of FA, he’s a FRANKENSTEIN now! Pass coverage numbers are great for someone considered a “box” safety.

    Riddle me this, At 6’6″ 270, identical height and weight to Jared Allen, how the hell does Corey Wooten “transcend scheme”, and Allen not work?

    Thoughts of a man who shouldn’t have celebrated St Patricks quite so hard.

  • Will

    Free agent S Kerry Rhodes says he hasn’t retired and wants to play in 2014.
    “Every option for me is open, I haven’t retired,” said Rhodes. “I still love football and it’s still a part of me. That’s not closed. But I’m not going to go into a situation where it’s not beneficial to myself.” Rhodes spent the 2013 season out of the league acting in a comedy series and focusing on a production company. There was some belief he was blacklisted by the NFL because of the rumors Rhodes was gay, but Rhodes doesn’t feel that way. Rhodes is 31 years old. Feb 18 – 3:45 PM
    Source: ESPN.com

  • Will

    Hey Eagles fans here’s some Sproles highlights to start your Sunday morning…

  • Will

    Congratulations again to Chip Kelly Maxwell Club Coach of the year!

  • Will

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/videos/Coaches-Corner-John-Lovett/60b1111d-a28e-48dd-a99e-4d923f929d7c

    John Lovett Eagles DB coach…his thoughts on the players in the Eagles secondary in December of last year…

  • Token

    Giants sign Walter Thurmond and are likely to sign DRC.

  • bushisamoron

    Steven Haushka is the name you’re missing from this list. Henery is not a long term solution (nor a short term solution for that matter).