Eagles Add CB Nolan Carroll

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The Eagles made another move Thursday morning, reaching an agreement with Dolphins cornerback Nolan Carroll.

It’s a two-year, $5.2 million deal, according to Mike Garafolo of FoxSports.com.




"Nolan Carroll brings good experience to our team," said Eagles head coach Chip Kelly in a statement released by the team. "He’s been a starter in Miami. He’s a good athlete and he’ll bring good depth to our cornerback position with Cary, Fletch and Brandon. His skill set fits what we are trying to do on defense and special teams."

Added Howie Roseman: "Nolan is a guy we have studied for awhile and the thing you see is his size, speed and press ability. He will add depth to a cornerback group we already feel good about. You can never have enough big, long corners on a football team. He’s also a player that has proven to be a productive gunner on special teams. We’re excited to add him to our team."

Carroll is listed at 6-1, 205, but as friend of the blog Sam Lynch pointed out, he measured in at 5-11 1/2 at the combine coming out of college.

The 27-year-old was originally a fifth-round pick by the Dolphins in 2010. He's started 26 games in four seasons. Last year, Carroll started 12 games and had three interceptions, 11 passes defended and a pair of sacks.

Carroll has played on the outside his entire career. According to PFF, he had 44 tackles and only missed three last season. That put him at ninth in the league in tackling efficiency.

As a rookie, Carroll returned kicks and ranked 16th with a 24.3 yard average.

He figures to compete for a starting job with Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher. The Eagles were thin at cornerback last season. The Carroll addition gives them three options on the outside with Brandon Boykin continuing as the nickel.

Interesting background on Carroll's family from the Dolphins' Web site:

Nolan’s discipline, both on and of the field, comes from his parents who were both members of the military. Nolan’s father, Nolan, Sr., served in the Air Force, where he earned the rank of senior master sergeant. His mother, Jennifer, served in the Navy, where she became a lieutenant commander. Mrs. Carroll turned in 20 years of military service and left the Navy with a long list of achievements which includes a Meritorious Service Medal; two Navy Commendation Medals; two Navy Achievement Medals; a National Defense Service Medal; an Overseas Ribbon; two Coast Guard Special Operation Ribbons; and finally an Expert Pistol Medal. Adding to her resume, she is now Florida’s lieutenant governor after spending seven years as a state legislator and also serving as executive director of the Florida Department of Veterans Affairs.

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  • PaoliBulldog

    A solid pick. Doesn’t excuse overpaying for Jenkins, but shores up what was a horrible position last season.

    Next up: Rafael Bush, as the Eagles continue to bleed the Saints….

    • joyriding

      “shores up”.

  • Philly0312

    Solid signing. Can play a lot more dime next year now if need be.

    • GEAGLE

      Don’t think we have the sure tackling safety to play Dime..teams will spread out your dime and try and fool you by running…you only have 4DL and 1LB against 5OL…you better trust your safety to make an open tackle or a simple run up the middle will go 60yards against your dime…I also think we would use Jenkins and Boykin as the slot Corners if Wolff improves enough to trust him in Dime…

      But this is a quality signing that really helps our depth. I don’t think he will win a starting job, but he doesnt have to, to be a good addition.
      ..
      I also think this signings puts to bed all talk about Boykin moving outside. Now that we have 3 decent outside corners.

      What really pleases me about the addition of Carroll! is that I thought we would wait til rounds 4-5 of draft to address our CB depth..so when we traded for Sproles, we lost one of the pics I thought we would target a CB with. So adding Sproles could have taken away from improving our CB depth, but we counter and immediately improve our CB depth in free agency, so I don’t see a downside to trading for Sproles. Just wish we could get Billy Davis some more help

      • Philly0312

        Well…Davis admitted he couldn’t play dime due to the lack of a 4th CB, not due to the lack of a safety. I agree in principle, but this signing helps Davis play more dime. Dime isn’t something you want to play often, but we played it maybe 20 downs all year, if that.

        • GW.Fisher

          Dime was Chung getting eaten alive by Dez Bryant…

          • Philly0312

            Haha, sounds about right. Will help us get Meco off the field on obvious passing plays, and limit the impact of his poor coverage ability

  • trixman

    An All-22 on Carroll would be greatly appreciated!

    • igglesfaninportland

      That would show his jock on the field while Sproles walks in for 6 go to nfl.com see sproles signing.

    • Broadcasting Wisdom

      Yeah anyway Sheil, how has this not been completed yet? What are you doing over there? Your readers kindly request an All-22 ASAP! Thanks!

    • Dubya

      I second it!

  • Joe Thomas

    Now we gotta get another Dolphin, who will it be, Clemons, or Jordan? Safe to say Incognito does not fit into what we are trying to build.

    • cheapmeat

      I disagree. Nasty attitude, great locker room to keep him in check. He’s an upgrade over Tod

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        no. he absolutely isn’t an upgrade over Todd.
        hopefully, he’ll never play in the league again

        • cheapmeat

          Really? People said the same thing about Vick. On the field, why don’t you think he’s an upgrade?

          • Tikkit

            First off he a founding member of the insane clown posse. Secondly…well, I think the first thing about covers it.

          • Ark87

            PED suspension…walking Roid Rage billboard. Wait you have proof he doesn’t juice? Why would you want a guy that is naturally like that?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            well, mostly because I’ve seen him play. just don’t think he’s good.
            T.O. had HOF skills to overcome being an a$$. richie does not.
            I’d bet a toe he doesn’t play again in the NFL

          • FMWarner

            Because aside from all the nonsense, he’s not a very good player.

      • Dubya

        Or he could tear it apart, but with his career pretty much at the edge of the cliff he wouldn’t act up. Its the distraction. There is no Vick no Avant to speak up for him. One Riley Cooper incident is enough for a coach’s tenure.

      • Joe Thomas

        I dont see the Eagles adding that personality to the team.

  • Token

    This may be their way of building a D. Through mid and low level FAs. Building the offense with most high draft picks and bigger FA signings.

  • Andy124

    Much more to come.

    Hmmm. My spidy sense is tingling.

    • Andy124

      Never mind.

  • miketd1

    Not particularly a good corner as per Dolphin fans:

    • Philly0312

      Well, I’ve never seen him play; PPF gives him a positive overall rating, which is more than I can say for Sconces.

  • miketd1
    • Chris

      this is based on his 2012 performance. I think he fared a little better in the 2013 season

      • Dubya

        I don’t trust the “phins” on anything including knowing their own players.

    • Dilwala_G

      Not a very encouraging profile – hope phinsider is wrong about him, otherwise a depressing signing – esp with cory graham having been out there before the bills got him, or alterraun verner

  • Sum

    This is a good signing. Rock Carmichael cost us in several big spots last season.

  • Will

    ww.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/source-eagles-sign-cornerback-nolan-carroll

  • JofreyRice

    Wow 2 year deal? Haunted Howie strikes again. Carroll’s a better signing thqn Jenkins. I hope he takes Carys job.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      he’s done nothing to date to deserve more than 2 yrs.
      Eagles now go into ’15 with ability to keep or cut every CB, depending on play/fit/plan.

      • JofreyRice

        Yeah, you’re right, he’s really not worth anything more. Up and down. Essentially 0 risk to the team. Well, what we all thought was a smokescreen was just Howie telling the truth. Maybe I’m missing someone, but I can’t think of another team that does free agency like this. Essentially only targeting guys no one else is interested in making a commitment to.

        I know Green Bay is famous for leaving bottom of the roster spots open, and auditioning a practice squad guy every week, but I don’t know anyone has tried it in FA before–just churning guys through to see who can stick.

        • pjcostello

          New England has done this, giving guys chances whom no one else wanted, and creating a team out of them.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t see it as being quite the same. The guys they have taken chances on are guys with personality issues, drug abuse stuff, discipline question marks, but also a ton of talent. Talib, Haynesworth, Moss. They’re also known for bringing big name guys in at the end of their careers to see if there’s anything left in the tank. Tommy Kelly, Andre Carter, Fred Taylor, Ochocinco (who probably fits into the former category, as well) Joey Galloway…etc.

            They also commit to free agents with big money. Amendola last year, Revis this year. Historically, guys like Adalius Thomas. Their team is not built from journeymen roleplayers they picked up in free agency. I’d say it’s largely through the draft, and they add free agent contributors at market value when they think the guy could help.

            The Eagles seem to be using free agency almost like you’d use a 5th round pick. Spot a guy whose athletic traits you like, but has some major issues with production in someone else’s scheme, that makes him less desirable to other teams. Give him a low risk contract, and see what he does in your scheme. If you don’t like him, move on. If you do, then extend him.

            I don’t hate the philosophy if it’s just a component of what you’re doing in free agency, but as the whole thing? No, I think you’re taking a useful tool to make your team better and throwing it in the trash.

          • pjcostello

            Sort of… There is a vault filled with castoff players that Belichick gave a chance, and made into some very good teams. Some were at the end of their careers, others the beginning. Here’s a small list:
            Rob Ninkovich, Roman Phifer, David Patten, Mike Vrabel, Junior Seau, Danny Woodhead, Rodney Harrison, Brian Waters, Alge Crumpler — even Deion Branch when he returned to the Pats for a second stint.

            Guys like Ninkovich and Patten who were never supposed to amount to anything, or Vrabel who languished on Pittsburgh’s bench. Those are the kinds of signings I mean.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t know. Every team has signings like that, but I’m not sure I buy that they are the basis of the team for the Patriots.

            Brian Waters, Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau and Alge Crumpler are all guys that absolutely fit into the “aging former high-level player that we’re taking a flier on to see if he’s got anything left in the tank”. I didn’t look it up, but I think every one of them made multiple probowls at their position (unlike being a second alternate special teamer 2 years ago, like our buddy Bryan Bransom or whatever) before joining the Pats. Harrison signed a huge deal with them when he left SD.

            I can’t characterize those kind of signings as being similar to what Howie and the Eagles are doing with the “batting average” thing with low-tier guys that have never really shown consistently high-level play at the NFL level, and are mid-career fringe starters or special teamers.

          • Maggie

            Belichik and Kelly seem to like each other’s philosophy, so may draft/sign alike. Let’s not forget Belichik wasn’t a “genius” at first, and except for the incredibleness of Tom Brady, wouldn’t likely have won those Superbowls. Kelly still needs that unknown, 7th round pick to turn into a superstar. As an aside, when did the Patriots actually win their last Super Bowl? Maybe no plan or scheme or incredible good fortune lasts long, anyway.

          • Andy124

            How long? Since before the league stopped them from stealing defensive signals.

        • GEAGLE

          I don’t know much about this kid, but there was actually a decent market for him, which is reflected by us having to add incentives that could turn this into a 7millipn dollar deal. I don’t expect this kid to win a starting job. But this isn’t some kid no one wanted. his name has really been heating up since free agency started…I always thought we had most of our starting spots were filled but that we had to rebuild the depth across the board, so while we didn’t add a gamechanging starter, I feel a lot more comforable seeing this dude on the field then Roc or Marsh,,,,
          .
          I really didn’t expect us to adress the CB depth til like rounds 4 or 5, and it can’t be that easy to find a better CB in round 5 then this kid, so all in all. It’s probably a solid depth addition…last year we only had 3 CBs we could even think of putting on the field…ATleast this kid makes 4 so we aren’t at an automatic disadvantage when teams line up in 4wide

          • Richard Colton

            Tell me he’s the new Roc Carmichael and I can live with it

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yes and no. Does that help?…lol.

            He’s short term insurance, with potential long term rewards. Based on his contract, he can compete for a starting spot or solidify the CB depth as the next guy in. It’s entirely up to him and how he plays. He’s definitely an upgrade over Roc/Marsh.

          • Richard Colton

            Even better. Hooah.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            The key is that he’s a young guy with upside that solidifies a position where depth was needed. It’s a win-win scenario for Birds. Either he beats out CW or Fletch & one of them becomes your next man up or he doesn’t and he’s much better than Roc & Marsh.

          • JofreyRice

            Agree he’s an upgrade on Roc/Marsh.

          • JofreyRice

            Market could not have been too hot. Low money 2 year deal was the best he could get.

          • GEAGLE

            True. Especially when you look at the 4yr 16mil Corey Graham got…
            ..
            I know for a fact we had a lot of interest in Graham, so it’s pretty evident gang we are going with this cheap hidden gem approach. I’m sure Graham would have reunited with Chip before going to buffalo if we offered similar money…we clearly didn’t. And looked to the next best target until we found one who would take the contract we are looking to offer….but if this kid turns out to be a player and actually reaches his incentives, two years 7mil ain’t too bad for him

          • anon

            same story for byrd

          • Adam G

            And how do you know for a fact perchance? You boys with Cory?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            But he also has the opportunity to prove himself worthy of a starter’s paycheck. Other teams may not have been willing to add the incentives if he performs well enough to earn a starting spot. This seems more like a guy that wants to prove himself than just get paid.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            or maybe, like other FAs, it wasn’t 100% about money? Good opportunity here, may start but should still see snaps, chance to catch on long-term with good organization.

            same argument as those saying we should have thrown $$$ at Byrd, Ware, Revis, etc. Who’s to say we didn’t? FAs have opinions about where they want to play, too.
            considering the depth we have at the position, I’d take almost any CB. Carroll is one of the younger ones with starting experience available, and per usual Howie got a great deal. So low risk, I can’t see any real downside other than the typical “yea, but we could have signed XXX”

          • JofreyRice

            From the outside, it looks like we have two starting CBs in place, and a really good nickel, so I’m not sure i agree about opportunity. The team culture is better in Philly than other places, for sure, but I don’t see a guy that chose to go to free agency passing up big bucks to come play for Billy Davis. This isn’t a one year prove it, that favors the player its a 2 year “we’ll see” that favors the org.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            as far as opportunity, I’m speaking solely to future. There is always chance he beats one guy out for starting spot, or injury occurs. But again, based on coach’s perception and their contracts, they keep whoever they please from the 4 going into ’15. Maybe Carroll is kept long-term over sconces or fletcher

          • Jerry Pomroy

            They showed “opportunity”, by giving him the chance to earn a starting gig with the incentives. So the deal is a little of both prove it & we’ll see, or as I like to say, ok show me.

          • JofreyRice

            but he ended the season starting for the Dolphins. Started 12 games for them last year. So, you’d figure if other teams saw him as a starter and
            had an opportunity, he’d have gone there instead. Like I said I hope this doesn’t mean Fletcher is gone. Even with the injury problems I’d take him over Carrie Williams.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I don’t think so. I see it as more so the opportunity to supplant CW than Fletch. CW is good at pressing and being physical, but lacks in the natural coverage instincts department. Fletcher isn’t a great player, but more well rounded than CW. I think they like Carroll because he’s just like Fletcher. Not to replace him, but rather because that’s the type of CBs they want. Jack of all, master of nothing. Solid all around.

          • Maggie

            Yes, yes, yes on players having opinions of their own.

        • Ark87

          hopefully it works. We do know it’s not completely random. Usually we are interested in these players before they basically amounted to nothing at their first stop.

          I do know Bill Barnwell of Grantland is pissed at his Giants because they just signed 3 or so players to big contracts that they could have signed last season (they were all on the market last season for vet minimum). It wasn’t like they had any sort of depth chart to make them not even bother.

          I think Barnwell will approve of Howie’s approach, these guys almost certainly won’t be pro-bowlers, but there is a solid chance they outplay their contracts, we get good value before we ship them to a bad team to be overpaid (Giants).

  • Will

    Eagles signed CB Nolan Carroll to a two-year, $5.2 million contract.
    It’s a solid depth add for the Eagles secondary. We don’t expect Carroll to beat out Cary Williams or Bradley Fletcher for a starting gig, but they could certainly do worse at the No. 3 outside corner spot (Brandon Boykin only plays inside). The 6’1/205 Carroll started 12 games for the Dolphins last year, grading out in the middle of PFF’s corner ranks. Mar 13 – 9:51 AM
    Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter…he is 5′ 11″ according to combine results…

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Carroll isn’t just a depth signing. They wouldn’t have added the lofty incentives for playing time if Carroll’s camp didn’t feel he had a very good chance to compete for a starting spot. His deal from Birds perspective, basically gives him the opportunity to grasp a starting position or be a stop-gap quality depth guy for two yrs. CW isn’t exactly a youngin and Fletch has had a few injuries. Carroll is short term insurance, with long-term potential.

      Don’t get too dependent on stats as an end all, be all. That causes paralysis through over-analysis. That goes for everyone that just looks at the stats and openly dismisses a player. Yes, Sheil uses the data, but also uses the eye test when breaking down a player in an All-22. Why do you think coaches watch so much film??

      I come from a business mgmt background that’s heavily weighted by numbers and statistical data analysis. PFF stats are best used as a tool, just as any other statistical data, to go along with logic, situation, demographics & contributing factors when painting a picture. Stats are facts, yes. But they don’t typically weigh everything into account like logic and reason.

  • Will

    Still no real help for the D….

  • Will

    Still holding out hope they sign Chris Clemons safety….maybe if the price is right…better Safety than Jenkins…right now they have Wolff/Maragos/Jenkins and PS Keelan Johnson….

    • usmcnole

      Clemons is about as good as nate allen. I’d rather resign nate

      • Will

        4. Chris Clemons

        2013 Grade: +4.1
        2013 Snaps: 1158

        Summary: Clemons made this same list last year, but after a stellar season he jumped five spots from the ninth-best free agent safety, to No. 4. Last year, with no big offers on the table, he returned to Miami on a one-year deal hoping to increase his value. The former fifth-round pick is now ready to cash in with a long-term deal, and while most will view him as a drop-off from the top three names, he might be a better value. Clemons was our 19th-ranked safety and excelled in coverage — his +7.2 grade in that department was ninth among safeties and he allowed just 0.20 yards per coverage snap, best in the league. However, his run defense grade dipped from +4.4 in 2012 to -3.6 in 2013 and his 14 missed tackles were 13th most of all safeties. Clemons will surely garner more interest than he did last year and be an asset to a team seeking a coverage-minded safety.per PFF

        • usmcnole

          Talk to any dolphins fan

      • Will

        Nate Allen didn’t even crack the top 10 FA Safeties…

        • Maggie

          On NFL Network he did. Unless they were going alphabetical. lol.

    • GEAGLE

      Clemons is NOT a better safety then Jenkins! and I really doubt we consider clemons

    • travis papa

      He is a jaguar

      • Will

        What did he sign for just curious?

    • travis papa

      Sorry upon further review it was the wrong Chris Clemons. The DE former eagle variety

  • Doctor Rick

    I get the idea Billy and Howie are scratching for hidden gems. The thought must be that these additions to our D can be coached up. I hope that’s true.

    • Dubya

      That and I think they prefer to find gems/studs in the draft on the cheap to continue to build the program. I keep thinking that every time we sign/draft anyone. Chip wants to be a NFL coach for a long time and be successful. Look at the Seahawks, mid-level signings that worked out because they played out of their minds in that scheme coupled with finds in Sherman Chancellor and of course stud Earl Thomas. Last year was the perfect storm of circumstances so I know Chip isn’t looking at the team as world beaters. Just keep going with the plan I’m sure he had when he got hired regardless of how 2013-2014 went.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Building the foundation from the bottom up. Depth can be just as important as star power. But when you build a strong foundation & then add young talented stars (draft), that’s the making of a perrenial SB championship contender.

      • peteike

        yes, you mean the opposite of Dallas

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Umm, yes. Quite the opposite.

          It’s simple team building concepts in any business strategy using a 3 tier method (ABCs). You start by coaching up and/or turning over to improve your bottom 1/3 (from Cs to Bs), then shift your focus up to your middle 1/3 (or Bs) & try to make them As. Your always keeping sight on the whole team, but your focus is to build up your foundation to eliminate weakness (Cs or bottom dwellers).

    • Corey Dawson

      He’s said it constantly. He’d rather sign 7-8 guys with mid level contracts than 2-3 top tier guys with inflated contracts. You’re likely to hit more often with the mid level guys and have them for longer, since they also tend to be younger. The top tier guys you overpay for, much of the time are on the downslope of their careers (What I think will happen with Ware), are older, and have to pay for what they’ve done in order to get them, not what you expect them to do.

  • Eagles1018

    Thank you GOD

  • Will

    Chris Clemons
    Safety
    Unrestricted Free Agent
    2013 Cap Number: $2.75 million

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    Kevin Nogle

    Clemons is an interesting case to watch this year. The Dolphins looked like they wanted to move on from him last offseason, but when they did not have a starting safety to play next to Reshad Jones, and Clemons did not find the market he seemed to think would be out there for him, the two sides agreed to a one-year deal. In training camp, Clemons was clearly the leader of the secondary, and most of the defense, calling out signals, and making sure everyone was in the correct positions. As Dannell Ellerbe becomes more comfortable in the defense and establishes himself as the signal caller, Clemons’ use in that role should diminish, but he is still the solid, last-line of defense type of player you want in the secondary. It may simply come down to another year of seeing what is available for the Dolphins and if there is interest in Clemons before the two sides decide what they want to do this year.

    • kellyspringles

      jaguars signed him

      • Will

        DE Chris Clemons of Seattle signed….

  • myturn
  • Johnny Domino

    For a minute I thought I saw Nolan Cromwell.
    As you were.

  • GEAGLE

    For a no name player. This kids name started to really rise during this free agent period. Lot of teams liked this kid and many people thought of him as one of this years free agent steals…quality depth addition(ATleast that’s what I hear)

    We passed on some Quality defenders who signed fair contracts that could have helped, but one thing that I really really really like about the way we are operating is we aren’t paying any players off reputation. We aren’t spending money on sex names who best football is behind them and will get cut in a year or two. We are targeting players who we think their best football is still ahead of them and have the Charecter and personality that will allow our coaches to get it out of them and I think it’s briliant….but there are still exceptions to the rule. There are still NAMES out there(ATleast there were) who will sign lucrative deals but prove to be worth every penny. It’s not ok to pass on those players just because we re sticking to a blueprint…take every player on a case by case basis, and hit on the right guys, cheap or expensive…not every big name will go the Albert Haynsowrth route

  • Will

    Nice article good perspective prior to Spoles and Nolan though…

    The Philadelphia Eagles have agreed to terms with four players as of this writing: the top two via former New Orleans Saints safety Malcolm Jenkins and re-signing of last season’s punter, Donnie Jones, to three-year contracts worth $16.5 million and $5.5 million, respectively. Second-tier signings have begun to roll in as the team agreed to contracts with former Seattle Seahawks safety/special teamer Chris Maragos (three years, $4 million) and former Houston Texans linebacker/special teamer Bryan Braman (two years, $3.5 million) on Wednesday morning.

    While Jenkins clearly has the fastest road to playing time (sans Jones, of course) and he’ll likely end up as one of the Eagles starting safeties, these signings all leave the Philadelphia Eagles in the same position they were prior to free agency opening. Safety, outside linebacker (pass rusher, specifically), and cornerback were the most oft-discussed positions, and none of them can be checked off as addressed just yet after considering the additions.

    Cornerback is the easiest to dissect, as the team has yet to add a player at that position. Short and sweet, yet effective. It remains to be seen if the Eagles have any interest in remaining players, but there are plenty of players capable of stepping in still available like Antoine Cason (Arizona Cardinals), Walter Thurmond III (Seattle Seahawks), Captain Munnerlyn (Carolina Panthers), and Chris Cook (Minnesota Vikings).

    Outside linebacker was lightly addressed, but the impact that Bryan Braman will have (and is primarily intended to have) is geared more around special teams. Chip Kelly has said that Braman will have the opportunity to compete at OLB, but it’s most likely that the level of competition is versus Josh Kaddu, not Trent Cole. What happens with Brandon Graham, who is entering a contract year, is still up in the air but there is still no clear heir apparent to Trent Cole on the roster. Unfortunately, the players who would have gotten the Eagles closest to addressing their need were retained by their current teams when Jason Worilds signed his franchise tag with the Pittsburgh Steelersbefore free agency opened and Mike Neal agreed to a two-year contract with theGreen Bay Packers early Wednesday evening.

    As far as safety goes, the Eagles actually hurt their numbers (read: numbers, not effectiveness) at safety before Jenkins was signed when they released Patrick Chung from his contract shortly after 4:00 PM ET on Tuesday. Sure, it’s as close as addition by subtraction as the team could get, but after already losing three safeties to the open market (Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Colt Anderson) the team was already thin there. The good news is that Chris Maragos’ signing effectively replaces Colt Anderson, who was primarily on the roster for his play on special teams. That role is clear enough to pinpoint. While Malcolm Jenkins is not Nate Allen, and in my opinion is certainly an upgrade from him, he comes the closest to Allen’s play style of the two. The team is still two safeties away from where the roster ended up as last season, and it’s difficult to see the team placing full trust in 2013 fifth-round pick Earl Wolff as a long-term starter yet.

    The good news is that the Eagles still have considerable time (just under two months) before the 2014 NFL Draft, and still have all of their assets for any potential means of filling these voids. The Eagles aren’t done in free agency, either, but if in the worst case scenario these needs remain constant until the Draft, there are players in each round and position who would immediately make up for any lack of activity (or interest) towards open market signings. If you thought waiting for the start of free agency was anguishing, now isn’t the best time to look at your calendar.

    Topics: Bryan Braman, Casey Matthews, Cornerback, Eagles, Free Agency,Malcolm Jenkins, Nate Allen, NFL Draft, Trade

  • Will
  • GEAGLE

    Carrington is visiting the steelers tonight…come on Howie, the kid will be in Pennsylvania and is ok with two gaping since he is visiting Pitt…a two gapper, versatile enough to play all over the line, who happens to be a quality interior pass rusher on 3rd down..26yrs old, not expensive…HELLO!!! Get Eugene Parker on the phone damn it and cancel that steelers visit. he is only the perfect fit for the Multi front defense we run….please bring him to philly

    • Nfl All Day

      Did Ihedigbo leave Detroit yet? Of all NFL destinations, Detroit’s the one I would not want to play for unless my next stop was outta the league

      • GEAGLE

        Not sure if he went yet but he did have a visit scheduled, and detroits DC and him were together at baltimore

  • Will

    Chris Clemons Safety of the Fins also has interest from Pitt…..

  • Will

    With Clemons/Jenkins you would have two excellent cover Safeties…both weak in run support but they have played in starting roles…Clemons would not cost a fortune at this point I would think…

    • Richard Colton

      Maragos isn’t an NFL starting caliber safety. He’s Colt Anderson with thicker eyebrows. I think we may have to resign ourselves to Wolff/Jenkins for the time being. At least we’ll have Revis on the outside, right?

      • Nfl All Day

        Tough with Maragos. Not much opportunity behind Earl & Kam. He might have something to prove. Thats what I like about Carroll. 5th rounder who had to fight for it. I think that plays into the tackling efficiency and SpTeams prowess. How much did Jenkins have to fight for a roster spot? Stoke up that fire, will to survive in the league. Actually wish we did a 3rd year on Carroll.

        • Richard Colton

          I wouldn’t have hated that third year. I just don’t know enough about Carroll, I’ll defer to you on that. At this point – I know Maragos and Brahman are ST, Emergency backup players. That’s it.

          • Nfl All Day

            Im strictly looking ar the starting experience, and tackling efficiency which was 9th among cbs. Looks like a grinder to me. Always curious why they let him walk considering the low cost?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Tough, grinding, high energy guys that can make spot plays to uplift the team, but aren’t overly talented or consistent enough at their positional play to be starters. But improvements over those they replace, if called upon, and still add value to STs. Good moves.

      • Will

        Yeah not jumping for joy with at best adding an another rookie via the draft since we have done great so far using that route to fix the Safety spot….

  • anon

    I can’t believe we got Sproles — our offense is going to be silly. That midget running all over the field and us running up tempo — good luck trying to cover him and Shady and Djax and Ertz, etc. Fantasy!!!

    • Will

      Very nice pick up for the Offense….

    • Ark87

      Sproles wearing the midnight green motioning from the backfield to the line as a WR is going to give me B-west flashbacks so bad.

      • anon

        And he’s the best at it for the last 5 years. The. Best.

        • Ark87

          It’s not really close. I used to take exception to Sproles, because he was the young B-West, ascending as B-West’s injuries were getting the best of him.

  • peteike

    Saints are in trouble now, Jimmy is mad, compton curse. You just know one of those safeties will have a season ender. Wont be nearly as dynamic on offense but prob better on D. We get revenge and knock them out this time

    • GEAGLE

      I’m not even sure how great that defense will be…sure they will have awesome safeties And good secondary assuming good health…but I don’t know that I’d rather have Jarius Byrd, then Jenkins AND will smith if I’m the saints…

      They are cutting half of their quality pieces and instead of smoothing things out with the most important player on their team. Jimmy. They taking away a bunch of his quality weapons, continue to try and Rob him out of that 5mil, won’t give him any security..yet they handed over a brinks truck to Byrd? That’s some Eagles dream team ish if I ever seen it…if this doesn’t destroy their locker room I’ll be shocked….If you were Jimmy Graham, I’m sure you would be pretty damn pissed and feel pretty damn disrespected….no?

      • peteike

        exactly, they are messing with chemistry. I do think Ryan helped them a lot though and with Brees the offense will still produce. Im just thinking they arent sniffing a bowl any time soon and that window is closing

        • A1sawz

          Yeah no doubt. Brees is 36 that window’s just about shut, and with their cap situation I’m pretty sure Graham isn’t the only person in that locker room that’s gonna end up disgruntled.

      • Richard Colton

        I want to be able to talk myself out of the Saints too. But the truth is, Brees is the unquestioned leader of that team. As long as he & Peyton are there, there aren’t going to be chemistry issues dividing the team. They are the closest thing to the Pats outside of Foxboro. Graham doesn’t strike me as a TO. He’ll make noise until it comes time to practice & play, then its all business.

        • GEAGLE

          I have ALWAYS looked at them the same exact way…but to me, this is BLATANT disrespect that I’m not so sure anyone could tolerate..he may not be TO, but he has carried that offense and they will plan on leaning on him more then ever after the players they are cutting. Not only won’t they give him the long term security 20 teams would like up to offer him, but they are trying to screw him our of 5mjl he feels he has earned……..that rah rah coombaya team stuff can’t OVERCOME EVERYTHING…..I just don’t get how he could take all that on the chin and just
          Line up and play the good soldier, especially with my QB publicly stating I don’t deserve that 5milluon dollars….I don’t think it takes a TO type madman to feel some type away about how they are treating him

          • Richard Colton

            Good points. They start winning out of the gate? That cures an awful lot of ill will. The back end of that D looks scary. Say they come out of this draft with DAT to replace Sproles, and Mike Evans in round one? They have another A+ draft like last year, I’m putting the Saints on my Superbowl shortlist.

          • peteike

            ya sometimes that locker room stuff is a tad over blown, winning cures everything, lose and they all start bickering and pointing fingers

  • GEAGLE

    What I really hate about free agency is we aren’t privy to so much…it would be so much easier to judge and future predict how we will operate if we were privy to the players we made offers to but didn’t end up landing, and see how much we offered them(how highly we thought of them) compared to how much they signed for….for example we had interest in Micheal Johnson that lasted about 20 hours. How much did we like him? How much did we value him? How much more did the bucaneers value him? Then there are players like the CB from the saints who shunned us last year and took less money to play for his hometown Saints..there are also players we were hot after, whom we made quality offers too and we never even find out we were interested…..Be fascinating to be privy to all our free agent offers, just like it be great to see our entire draft board, unfortunately our front office isn’t stupid and Incompetant like the cowboys tweeting pics with their draft board in the background….brilliant

    • peteike

      ya right, if it was like they had to release all emails etc a few years later for public knowledge like the govt. Be fun to be a fly on the wall

      • GEAGLE

        Right…

    • Nfl All Day

      I’m sure the Giants would love to know as well.

      • GEAGLE

        Screw them.WE COULD tell the giants skins and cowboys what we are doing and we would still have a two year head start….the best thing about Sproles is the skins wanted to trade for him lol that has to suck to see him go to Chip Kelly lol

    • Ark87

      I’m wondering what our rep is with players. I assumed that we were clearly ascending, great organization from the top down. Was hoping for some Winner’s discount….that hasn’t played out as much as I’d like.

      I wonder if outsiders are a little bit uneasy about the sports science stuff, the level of commitment we demand off the field…and apparently folks </3 Tuesday practices

      • Andy124

        Maybe after we win a few playoff games.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Yeah, need to regain some clout after ’11-’12 & change of regime/scheme.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Browns also got snagged with a pic of their FA board recently as Farmer was walking out of war room.

      • cliff henny

        had rex grossman and ryan moats. if i was a FA, either walk away or charge 10% fee if i saw that.

  • Will

    Eagles 1st pick of the draft goes Offense with Sproles not much hope the next 6 go for to help the Defense….

  • Will

    Stunned the Eagles have done so little to help a Defense ranked 29th or 30th in the NFL….

    • Adam G

      Actually their weighted DVOA was 15th to end the season. Those stats are skewed by their awful start.

      • Will

        They did very well till the top tier teams….next season we will see how they fare against stiffer competition….

        • Adam G

          Last half of the season they only had one game where the D did not play well and that was against the Vikings.

          • Will

            Didn’t play well in the play offs either when we needed a stop on 3rd down they just didn’t get it done….

          • Adam G

            Feel like the D did their job in that game. Held a very potent offense to 26 points. If you told me that before the game I would be pretty happy.

          • anon

            26 points is good?

          • Adam G

            Against the Saints? For sure. I don’t know why it wouldn’t be.

          • knighn

            In today’s NFL, 27 points is the new “17 points”. You don’t have to like it, but you’ll eventually accept it.

          • knighn

            Reply #2 – while there is some truth to that “27 points is the new 17 points” statement, the bottom line is that the 2013 Eagles Defense just wasn’t good enough. One of the worst parts in their failure to get off the field was that it kept the Eagles potent offense off of the field. Seriously, if the Eagles defense was just a little bit better they could come up with quicker stops and give the Eagles offense at least an extra minute or two to put up points.

          • Ark87

            getting off the field on 3rd down was a pretty brutal weakness on the team. That can’t be denied. Eagles defense had more snaps than anybody, someone asked ‘Meco if it was hard playing defense on the other side of chip’s fast pace offense. He straight up told them they need to get off the field.

            We need a better pass rush and close on the ball faster.

        • Ark87

          this year’s big test will be for the offense. Lot’s of amazing defenses coming our way.

    • GEAGLE

      That ranking is BS….you are crazy if you think there were 28 teams that had defenses better then a DFENSE that held teams under 24 points for the last two and a half month of the season…our defensive stats are so damn skewed by the beginning of nthe season when we were learning on the fly, by our offense putting them on the field longer then anyone,by our offense building lots of leads forcing teams to throw….we play bend but don’t break, so if teams are playing from behind you are going to give up a ton of yards and mess up the defensive stats..
      ,..
      Screw the stats…I would say we had a top 10 run defense(#8-10), top 17 base defense, and like 23 ranked Nickle defense(which was really really poor at times but did show some improvements later on)…..I think those numbers are more indicative of the type of defense we had, then a silly 29th ranking…..for 11 weeks we held teams under 24 in today’s NFL that’s impressive…we win 12 games next year if you hold teams under 24 all season….we barely allowed any 100 yard rushers…and we accomplished all that inspite of having to be on the field longer then any defenses.

      • Will

        we will see when we play Seattle how this team stacks up…just like last year’s game against the Bronco’s………….till the secondary is stout an excellent QB will have a field day….

        • GEAGLE

          Seattles offense won’t do a damn thing against us. Wait, do we play them in philly or away? Goimg into that game I’d probably be more concerned with how FOles and our offense performs against a defense that will try to bully us…more then I’m concerned about our defense shutting down BEASTMODE. I don’t fear their OL, and I think out puppies and our backers are ready to face their run game

          • anon

            it’ll be a test of whether people can tackle

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Insert Ryans & Barwin. To stop Lynch, you need to keep him from getting started. Kendricks gets to play clean up on Wilson.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t see why it would be some drastically tougher test then when we faced The packers led by Lacy and no Rodgers…that was probably my fav game of Meco’s career as an eagle. He has had flashier playmaking games then that, but he was possessed that day..I remember around the second quarter he flipped the switch, stopped tackling Lacy, and started punishing him. I don’t know what got into him, maybe pride of not getting run over by a rookie, but Meco was hitting hard as hell and I think those hits set the tone! and we went on to blow the game open….actually I wanna go back and watch that game cuz Meco was really crack a Lackin….I don’t see lynch as this drastically much more bruising back, but I guess I think highly of Lacey

        • peteike

          ya and all that offense did vs a suspect bronco D was vick scramble left for 12, vick scramble right for 8, shady for 5, incompletes, punt. O has to help D which it will next season. Im not buying all this strength of sched stuff and better teams. It always rounds out, you beat some you dont think you will and lost to bad teams

      • Eagles4Life

        That’s all well and good, but NFL defenses play in the nickel how often? I’m going to say the majority of the time, so while those numbers vary, the worst one is actually weighted more. I think points are the most important, but if you can’t get off the field, you’re going to give up points one way or another.

        • GEAGLE

          In theory you are right, but in your case I guess I didn’t make myself clear enough so you are right…but we often played Nickle on first and second down depending on the match ups, and our first and second down defense was pretty darn impressive, but our 3rd down defense often ruined the great work that we did on first and second down…but because our Nickle had plenty of success on first and second down…I should say that it’s important to improve our ability to get off the field in obvious passing situations on 3rd down, more then I should put the blame on the Nickle defense in General…Boykin is only on the field in Nickle..think of all the great plays we made with him on the field..so just blaming the Nickle probably isn’t fair of me…it’s probably more accurate to just say we have to improve our pass rush and the secondary needs to tighten up it’s coverage

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Need that pass rusher. A consistent pass rush is a “bend but don’t break” must.

      • Token

        So our numbers arent skewed by a horrible schedule to end the season that also saw us playing teams that were without their best player or players? You are delusional if you think this defense is good.

    • Andy124

      17th. Points are a lot more important than yards.

      • Richard Colton

        unless you’re playing in a yardage/ppr league. pretty sure that’s what caused the Lurie/Banner fallout

        • knighn

          Losing Dawkins was a big deal. Lurie had said repeatedly that he would have never let Reggie White leave. To watch Dawk leave after he made that statement repeatedly must have been like knife in the gut for Lurie. He was quick to make sure that no one else would wear the number 20 for the Eagles.
          I think that Banner was just a little too tough with the players in negotiations…. trying to drive down the value of the player instead of trying to get a mutually beneficial contract. Interesting numbers: less than a year after Dawkins left (Feb 28, 2009), Roseman was promoted to GM (Jan 29, 2010). On April 28, 2012 Dawkins signed a one-day contract to retire as an Eagle. On Jun 7, 2012 Banner was publicly moved to an advisory role. Banner was no longer with the Eagles when the Eagles retired Dawkins number on September 30, 2012.
          Dawkins was the piece that began momentum to get Banner out the door. Even as Dawk was leaving for the Broncos, he was still doing the Eagles a favor.

    • JofreyRice

      I think we’re learning more about Chip. He really doesn’t seem to give a shit about defense at all. Which is interesting, because in a sense, he’s running completely against the rest of the NFC. A guy like Payton, who is an offensive genius like Kelly, seems to value some kind of contribution from his defense. Right now, it looks like they want pressure and turnovers–which is the formula they used with Gregg Williams the last time they won a Superbowl, with scumbag rapist Darren Sharper picking off passes for them.

      Here’s how I see the class of the NFC:

      Seattle (Defensive identity, running offense with QB that can produce big plays sporadically)
      San Fran (same as above)
      New Orleans (Offensive identity, but more balance than either of the above)
      Carolina (Similar to Seattle/San Fran with a worse offense)
      Green Bay (Offensive Identity)

      So I think you have to hope Chip’s Super Offense is going to be better than Seattle/San Fran and Carolina’s top defenses, and that their offenses can’t match ours. Didn’t work for Denver in the Superbowl. I think when the Eagles are facing teams like Green Bay, they have to be able to win a shootout against Aaron Rodgers vs. a poor Eagles secondary. With NO…I dunno. They can put points on you in loads, and then screw with your offense with exotic blitzes. Prisoner of the moment talking here, but they look like they are going to be a tough out for everyone. Especially if they add one of these great young receivers from the draft.

      • peteike

        I was thinking that this morning, maybe he really is just all about offense. Good point about a D that goes for turnovers with a bend but dont break style. I forgot Sharper was the one to bring that glory to NO, ouch, that takes a bit of the joy out of it but unfortunately in hindsight. Not my town so who cares, he is a total…. I cant think up a bad enough word. Bill Cosby also has that history, crazy to read about now, just came out before the internet so wasnt as widespread.

        • JofreyRice

          no way, really? I never heard about the Cos raping people. That’s sick. WTF is wrong with people like that?

          • Maggie

            What hit the news a few years ago was he had affairs and fathered at least one child.

          • JofreyRice

            I just looked into it, and he had fourteen women accuse him of rape. Basically, they allege he dropped Rohypnol in their drinks, and they woke up vomiting while he was having relations with them (sexual). Utterly appalling to think of the guy who played on “Fat Albert” doing something like that.

      • knighn

        Not sure if Chip doesn’t care about defense or if Howie just couldn’t convince some of the bigger names (Jairus Byrd, Darrelle Revis, DeMarcus Ware) to come to the Eagles over going to consistent contenders like Saints, Patriots, Broncos.
        Or perhaps the Eagles realize the D is not good enough even if they bring in the big name and just weren’t ready to invest right now?
        Either way, I look at the schedule right now and see 4 nearly guaranteed losses:
        Green Bay Packers
        Seattle Seahawks
        SF 49ers
        NO Saints

        I also think a loss to the Colts might be likely. Then I see at least one loss in the division (because stuff happens when you play division rivals and this isn’t the 2004 Eagles) and throw in one other loss somewhere in the schedule and suddenly you’re looking at 9-7 for the 2014 Eagles… if everything else goes right. Might be good enough to win the NFC East but probably won’t get the Eagles very far in the playoffs.
        I get that the Eagles are going for their “slow build” but it doesn’t make 2014 as exciting as I was hoping it would be.

        • Adam G

          Never smart to look at the schedule even before it is released and say things like: these are guaranteed losses.

          • knighn

            I qualified it with the word “nearly”. It’s an opinion. I’m not putting money on it. If I’m wrong, hooray, the Eagles get more wins. God, why did I make such a stupid guarantee?!

          • Andy124

            It’s too late now. You put it out there, no takesy-backsies.

        • Maggie

          Are you sure about San Fran and the Saints? Neither one is the same team as last year at the moment.

          • knighn

            Yeah. Pretty sure, but like I said: not putting money on it. Do I want the Eagles to go 19-0? Absol. I just don’t see it happening with this team. Those are losses to me. Eagles make it the playoffs and lose early. No NFCC for them.

        • JofreyRice

          I’m going by what they did in the last offseason, what they’ve done this offseason, and a bunch of Kelly’s quotes over the years about defense. There’s some inductive logic on my part to come to the conclusion he doesn’t give a shit about it. I could be wrong, but the evidence seems to lead me to that.

          The guys you mentioned Howie couldn’t convince had to do with the fact they weren’t willing to pay or commit to anyone, at least in some part. They said it after the season, they’ve said it since then, and every single big name (and big money free agent) they had been linked to came off their radar the moment the bidding got too high (according to multiple rumor sources linked here, and in other places).

          I’m just hoping Kelly’s not the bizzaro-Rex Ryan. At some point, no matter how good you are at one side of the ball, you need the other to at least be serviceable. I’m anxious to see what they do in the draft, but yeah, with a first place schedule, I don’t think 8-8 is unthinkable. Luckily, none of the best NFC teams are in our division.

      • seanstradomus

        Chip doesn’t care about defense…..your kidding right”….only cares about special teams and offense I guess

  • Will

    Gotta think the Defensive priority in the Draft will be OLB…

    • Richard Colton

      Maybe they package those two 5th rounders to move up a few spots and grab a Safety. Who knows at this point? Their entire draft strategy has been predicated on filling holes in FA. That hasn’t happened. Im lost.

      • Andy124

        1 of those 5ths belongs to N.O. now.

        Maybe they feel more confident in their holes than we do. I personally don’t feel like we NEED to get a safety at this point. I feel the exact opposite at OLB.

        • Will

          Gotta think with 4 Safeties on the roster now assuming Keelan Johnson gets bumped up from the PS they are done and think we are good at Safety….unless Pryor falls to 22….more than likely grab one in the 2nd or 3rd rd if at all….we still need a place kicker regardless…thinking they try to add Deone Buccannon maybe…

        • Richard Colton

          Same urgency/despondency here Andy. different positions.

          I could live with another year of Cole/BG at ROLB provided the team addresses the need for pass rush elsewhere. Safety is still a huge hole.

          • Andy124

            Hey, Maggie had Tate, Will had Rhodes then Byrd, you’ve got Evans, I’ve gat Barr.

          • Richard Colton

            As much as I like Evans, If Barr is still available near the Eagles pick – I’m pounding the table for him. He’ll be the best pass rusher to come out of this draft.

          • JofreyRice

            If Barr dropped into the Eagles range, I’d be banging the table so hard I’d have 5 or 6 little end tables on my hands in 9 months.

          • Maggie

            Hey, I mentioned Barr’s name twice, too, you know. ;~). Besides mentioning Tate 3 times.

          • Andy124

            Seriously, if we manage to land Barr, I might have to rename my daughter to Barrbara.

          • Maggie

            How about Antonia or Antoinette?

        • peteike

          were trading Bryce for a pick

          • Richard Colton

            Source? sorry Pete, not being a prick, just don’t have Twitter at work.

          • peteike

            I was kidding, just assuming

          • peteike

            oh and I wont ever be offended by some of you main stays here. Got crazy on this site last few days esp that one clown just spewing everything overly negative.

          • Andy124

            oh and I wont ever be offended by some of you main stays here

            Is that a challenge?

          • peteike

            haha bring it. Wait, theres a Jonathan Martin joke in here somewhere

          • Andy124

            I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

          • NickS1

            Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a

          • Will

            we got Bryce with a 7th round pick what # pick will they get ?

          • peteike

            that game tape is golden until the fumblitis haha

          • anon

            just keep showing that td against the bears — he didn’t slip then

      • JofreyRice

        Right, and the strategy of signing stopgaps to low-risk deals in free agency is supposed to be balanced by loading up on talented guys in the draft…so why are we trading away picks?

    • GEAGLE

      After seeing how we operate..I wouldn’t be so sure..that’s MY priority…but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are ok with settling on Cole/BG again.?….god I hope not!!! I will be sick if we don’t draft one in the first two rounds, and it better not be Morgan Breslin or the kid from Arizona a State…those two would piss me off

      • Javi Echie

        Well you better hope those players aren’t BPA at the times the eagles pick cause the way FA has been it looks like they are def sticking to BPA.

      • Tom W

        really all I care about at this point is trading down at 22. Its a must. too many needs to fill. olb ilb safety guard corner wr nt ….

  • cliff henny

    BOOOO defense…sign more weapons!

    • Will

      When this Offense stalls and you look for your Defense to make a key play on 3rd down remember all the missed opportunities over the last 3 days you had to improve but the FO knows best….especially with 2 minutes left in the game and you have to protect the lead…not to mention your place kicker is shaky beyond 40 yards out…lol but not funny…

      • cliff henny

        they’re adding to defense too. might not be as much, but safeties are better, and corner depth has been improved. was never much for signing olb, 99/100, top tier guys are drafted.

        • Will

          Yeah thought the same fix Safety via FA focus on OLB in the draft…

    • GEAGLE

      That’s why Bryce brown is gettng traded…not sure if it will be for a pick Or part of the Dion trade…gotta take some of your toys away

      • cliff henny

        good…not a big fan of his. once a fumbler, always a fumbler to me.

        • knighn

          Tiki Barber was beastly once he got over him fumblitis.

          • cliff henny

            1 guy and it took like 6 years. Brown wont get that kind of leeway

      • Adam G

        Your discussion of a possible Dion trade is utterly useless. The cap hit is too much for the dolphins. It’s not happening. Keep dreaming though.

        • GEAGLE

          Thanks for continued worthless comments as if I don’t know what the situation…if you shut your dumb mouth and paid attention more you would know that if the Raiders take Mike Wallace off their hands, it offsets the Dion cap hit..spend more time getting your facts straight and less continuously talking crap to someone that doesn’t give two craps about you…considering raiders are dumb! have a ton of money! allegedly made an offer for Desean! is always enamored with speedy WRs, Wallace has no chemistry with Tannahill, new GM didn’t give Wallace that insane contract, and extra draft picks are the best way to rebuild, I wouldn’t call it the complete pipe dream that’s not worth keeping on our radar….now tuck your tail! rum along! you can come back and do better next time…..I can’t continue to waste time with a simpleton who thinks just because he has only seen a player play DE, that none can play OLB lol..I come to this site for more interesting convos then such basic stupidity….kind of hard to respect someone who senseless talks trash saying someone can’t play OLB (as if you have any clue whatsoever what it takes to be successful at either position) when the eagles front office was interested in that DE to play OLB for us….

          • Adam G

            Oh like you have any idea. You have “your guys” that you think the Eagles should sign. You are the classic delusional fan, cooking up ideas he thinks are better than the front office’s ideas. It is 100% a pipe dream, nobody is trading for Wallace. He might have the worst contract in the NFL in terms of value. You sir, are an absolute fool if you think there is any possibility that the dolphins could trade Wallace, and then turn around and trade Jordan. Have fun dreaming about MJ, maybe you should become a bucs fan and buy his jersey. Maybe you should tuck your tail and “rum along”. What’s the matter, your Mom’s computer doesn’t have spell check?

        • Maggie

          There MUST be 2 different people using the Geagle name. Or as mksp says on another site, multiple personality disorder. Honestly, one posting calmly discussing a signing, then a second posting calling everybody else, including yourself, stupid and trash.

          • Adam G

            I think those calm posts are written, spell checked then copy and pasted.

  • GEAGLE

    Brandon Graham and Bryce will prob be traded..not sure if it will be for pics or players

    • cliff henny

      what are either worth? Brown, treated ex’s I’ve called at 3am after drinking for 12hrs better than nfl treats RBs. and graham, he has escalator clause in contract worth 4m additional, and i’ll bet good money it’s tied to PT. what team’s trading for a guy they have to sit, and graham sure as shit isn’t worth 7.5m.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        your analogies are gold

        • cliff henny

          think we’ve all done that one. worst is when she stinks around the next morning and you’re in between states of shock, disgust and impressed

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            don’t forget regret!

          • Andy124

            And its favorite cousin, shame.

          • cliff henny

            my only regret was not trying that freaky crap while dating. ‘if i only had known!!!’ was all that went thru my demented mind

      • GEAGLE

        I heard BG only has one year left because we already voided that extra year

        • cliff henny

          not sure when void date happens, but yeah, Eagles have that option. but escalator clause is for ’14.

  • the midatlantic

    FWIW, Carroll’s mother resigned as LG of Florida a year ago yesterday over some improper influence allegations. Awkward anniversary among the Carrolls, I’m guessing.