What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Evan Silva of Rotoworld thinks the Eagles are the best fit for Darrelle Revis:

I think the Philadelphia Eagles make the most sense for Revis. They are an ascending, 2013 playoff team with below-average cornerback play, an aggressive GM in Howie Roseman, and over $20 million in cap availability. Philly defensive coordinator Billy Davis leans heavily in the blitz, a tactic far easier to execute with reliable back-end coverage. The Eagles haven’t been active in free agency beyond re-signing players from within. They’d be wise to make an exception for NFL’s top corner.

Doug Farrar of SI.com thinks Michael Vick could be a bargain for some team:

The debits are obvious. Vick will turn 34 in June, he’s played in all 16 games in just one season, and he still gets balky under pressure at times. (For those reasons, Chris Burke has Vick among his potential free-agent busts.) But when Adrian Peterson tweeted out on Thursday that Vick would make Peterson’s Vikings a playoff contender, he brought up a valid point — Vick is significantly better than any quarterback Minnesota had on its roster last year, and he’d outdo the starters for at least a handful of teams on a no-matter-what basis. Add in the way he dealt with the Nick Foles situation in Philly, and you have a veteran player who has proven he’ll work with a younger quarterback. Vick won’t get starter money anymore, but he’s an acceptable risk.

Farrar predicts Mike Mitchell to the Eagles:

Mitchell was one of the more underrated players in the NFC last season, and the Eagles’ safety situation is pretty dire. After a breakout year in Carolina with 67 tackles and four picks after four seasons lost in the Oakland wilderness, Mitchell, who will be 27 in June, might still have the best years ahead of him.

Patrick Daugherty of Rotoworld ranks Howie Roseman 13th among GMs:

You could argue this is too high for one of the architects of the most disastrous free-agent class in recent memory. Roseman’s role in Philly’s ill-fated “Dream Team” will be a stain he wears until he trades in his suits for pleated-retirement khakis. But he couldn’t have bought a better detergent than Chip Kelly. Roseman replaced a weary Andy Reid with arguably the brightest offensive mind of a generation, and has put his team one step ahead of an ever-changing NFL as a result. As an evaluator and player procurer, Roseman leaves much to be desired. But Kelly provides an easy-to-follow blueprint, lessening the room for error. The degree to which Roseman is tied to his head coach is highly unusual for a modern GM. Thankfully, he’s chosen the right one — the kind that should make him look like a genius in due time.

Chip Kelly had a visitor in town, according to a report: Texas Tech coach Kliff Kingsbury.

Joel Corry of CBSSports.com projects a five-year, $47.5 million deal for Jairus Byrd with $25 million guaranteed:

Byrd reportedly was looking to become the NFL's highest-paid safety last year when the Bills franchised him for $6.916 million. Troy Polamalu had that distinction in 2013 with the three-year, $29.6 million ($9,866,667 average per year) contract extension he got from the Steelers in 2011. Byrd and the Bills have engaged in negotiations for him to remain with the team. There are conflicting reports on whether Byrd turned down a long-term deal (with $30 million in the first three years) that would have made him the highest-paid safety.

Bill Barnwell of Grantland offers his free agency blueprint for the Eagles:

Oh, how the Eagles have longed for a safety since the Brian Dawkins days. They’ve tried by drafting guys like Nate Allen and Jaiquawn Jarrett and signing veterans like Chung, but nothing has worked for them, and it’s been Philadelphia’s biggest weakness for years. If they are ever going to invest at safety, Byrd — a top-of-the-line model in the prime of his career at 27 — is the guy who makes the most sense. (The only way he could fit Philly better would be if his name were Wawa Byrd.) This would be the right move for everyone involved. Raji would be a reclamation project moving back to the nose for the Eagles, while Smith would offer depth for a perilously thin front three. And if the Eagles let Vick go, Jackson would be the backup quarterback who would make the most sense for Chip Kelly’s offense. What, you would prefer Matt Barkley again?

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  • G_WallyHunter

    Awesome a new article for us all to vulture!!
    All this revis and Byrd talk damn, positive thoughts ppl and it WILL happen

    • Javi Echie

      I’m sitting here at work paying absolutely no attention to my work just itching till 3pm to see what happens. Salivating at the opportunity to grab Byrd or Revis.

      • Joe from Easton

        I like getting paid to prognosticate with fellow Eagles faithful.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Slackers today only, UNITE!!

          • George

            I’m off… so I can keep the updates coming after i’m back from the gym

        • Chris

          right there with you!

      • Scott J

        4:00.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Can safely say I’m doing the same thing, lets see who gets fired first

        • Javi Echie

          I may get fired if I hear that they sign Byrd, Ward, or Revis because I may flip out in happiness.

      • Eagles1018

        I’m hoping with Howie’s negotiating and contract structuring skills we can land Byrd AND Revis. I believe we’re already a top contender for a deep playoff run and they could put us over the top. Those facts could be some of the selling points for those guys. A lot of times if you take a little less to play for a contender you get paid on the back end with endorsement deals etc.

        • Javi Echie

          Couldn’t agree with you more brother

        • Maggie

          Don’t know about Byrd and Revis. Don’t know that the Eagles were all that interested in a corner, but…I watched some stuff during Revis recovery from ACL. I have never seen anybody work so hard. Period. He is the kind of player that should make everybody around him better, he is admired by many other players and Tampa was not the best fit. They were pretty dysfunctional last year, remember? Depending on the money, it just seems that he could bring the whole defense up a couple of notches.

  • jabostick

    I love how Howie will get ripped for the Dream Team stuff but then, in the next breath, the Eagles will get praised for having salary cap/roster flexibility and be constantly mentioned anytime a big name becomes available.

    • Bird of Prey

      Yes, I guess Joe Banner and AR didn’t have anything to do with that at all. I think Howie’s better than we all thought. I wonder what this guy wrote about Chip when we were 1 and 4?

      • jabostick

        Even Joe and AR are off the hook for the Dream Team, in my mind. Because even though it didn’t work out, I thought then and now that the strategy was pretty sound where they were aggressive coming off a lockout and super short turnaround to free agency, but they didn’t hamstring themselves with the contracts. I thought it was a smart gamble, they just lost on it.

        The draft selections were the problem, not the FA signings, IMO (and that’s where you can argue Banner vs AR vs Howie). Oh, and the DDL (the Day Dawkins Left)

        • Mikeq

          That’s where we can thank Vince Young for the gift that keeps on giving. Without a catchy name, it’s no longer a story. No one would be talking about the “time the Eagles spent a bunch of upfront money on free agents that one year but it didn’t work out, but also didn’t hamstring them long term” fiasco, but “dream team” fiasco is perfect for lazy journalists. I assume that in 2061 we’ll still be hearing about it from national hacks, like the booing Santa stories.

          • G_WallyHunter

            At least karma hit him in the form of bankruptcy

        • aub32

          I can’t let AR completely off the hook. I think the whole Dream Team scenario would have gone a lot better had better coaching decisions been made. That’s on Reid. He hired the wrong people and allowed too much to go unchecked. Look at how the same players, on offense, performed under Chip. Reid was unable to make the best of what I agree was a really good gamble.

          • jabostick

            Yeah, agreed on the coaching side of things, just meant his role in the FA signings.

    • Maggie

      Well, so many people seem to think that Howie sits in his office being a cap managing wizard, while simultaneously scouting 600 other players a year.

      • Andy124

        I’d say it’s closer to 2,500 other players. Give the man his due.

        • Maggie

          It’s just that he mentioned the 600 number once himself, when he was talking about working the board down to about 350, before the end of last season, even. With the scouts and Gamble, of course.

          • Andy124

            That’s just the draft though. He also knows everything about every player in the NFL and most of the guys cut during camp. It’s his job. :)

          • Maggie

            Yup, but he doesn’t do it alone, was my point.;~)

          • GEAGLE

            Awesome point…no one knew he had a staff of scouts. Thanks maggie

  • Joe from Easton

    I don’t know what to think right now. So many options to couple together. I trust Howie and Chip will make our team better without breaking the bank and without another 2011 fiasco.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Well put, that’s all we can do, so many options that instead of all the meaningless speculation, might as well sit back and enjoy the ride and trust that the FO will make the right moves

  • TheNest

    I like barnwells plan…..add revis….sprinkle in some draft picks and you have a Super Bowl team baking in the oven!!!!

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Less than 4 hours now…

  • daveH

    im not a fan of this poster sized articles – is it my pc or new E-247 design ? I read every day..but I read at work and I get in trouble if im reading non-workie stuff. yup 52 and still getting in trouble. I like the screen small & discreet – I don’t mind the ads because I am abuying whatever Sheil is selling!! just has to be small so I can share it w all the other stuff on my pc screen. thnks/ go birds.
    daveH

    • jabostick

      Oh man, trying to read an All-22 at work is pretty tricky. I’m getting to be ninja-like in my Alt-Tab reflexes.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Yes, quite tough to pass off a bunch of green turf and yellow arrows as a TPS report..

  • Joe from Easton

    I’m doling out up votes like a teeny bopper “liking” bieber face book posts today. The excitement is unbearable.

  • aub32

    Wow! How great hindsight must be. Who was saying that the Nnamdi signing was a bad move at the time? Howie fleeced the fans and the media by pulling off the signing of the biggest name in FA. He also did it without putting the team in cap hell. The singings didn’t work out, but he’s not the coach. He didn’t put an O line coach as the DC. He did however, manage to trade Kevin Kolb for DRC and a 2nd. He got Demeco for a 4th. He deserves a lot more credit, and trying to pin the “Dream Team” solely on him is just plain lazy and inaccurate.

    • Chris

      Perfectly written. Not only Nnamdi that year, but we were all happy with the DRC trade. Who didn’t think VY was a capable BACKUP? Ronnie Brown was a BACKUP to Shady, Babin was as advertised, Jenkins did have a reasonable few years and by all accounts was a good pickup at the time, and let’s not forget that we nabbed Evan Mathis, our all-pro left guard that offseason.

      I’m not saying it didn’t end in disaster, but you’re absolutely correct that we were all lauding those decisions at the time and to place the blame solely on HR is lazy.

      • Jernst

        As disappointing at Nnamdi was here, the majority of our offensive line getting injured had a lot more to do with our demise than he or VY or Ronnie Brown ever did.

    • Maggie

      And if there is an argument about Howie’s evaluation skills, he was clever enough to hire Tom Gamble, now wasn’t he. Then lose a couple of scouts. As you said, several of those signings that year were considered pretty good before the fact.

    • #7

      Great post

  • Tom W

    That Byrd estimate is too much for birds to handle. 5 for 43 w 20 guaranteed.

  • peteike

    Seems like the demand for Vick isnt as great as the natl shows are pushing. Vikes bring back Cassel, hear rumours that Browns and Raiders interested in Shaub. Not hearing anything about Vick except maybe Jets. Even Henne resigned right. Im not saying he wont get picked up, just funny to me how the natl media still just cant get enough of the guy. Hes popping up on ESPN and NFL network everyday. Watched a whole NFL network show, not one segment talking about Byrd and Ward. All the old guys names were main stories, Vick and Jared Allen, little Decker and Sproles. Vinatieri back with Colts, damn

    • aub32

      I’d like to see Vick land with the Browns. He’d have a pretty good line and a defense to back him up. He’s already got a WR and TE in place. Plus the Browns have so many picks.

      • peteike

        ya, I dont want to see him on Raiders. I dont think thats good for any QB. And hed have Gordon to throw to and Cameron. Nice pieces for sure. Jets, who does he throw to?

        • Eagles4Life

          Cumberland…LOL

    • JofreyRice

      it is funny, isn’t it? It’s like this huge disconnect between the reality of who he is as a player, and who TV thinks he is. I think GM’s have a clearer picture of what he brings as a QB than NFL Network or ESPN. The Jets are probably a good landing spot. M-Wig, can compete w/Geno and mentor him.

  • JofreyRice

    I’m getting reports that the Eagles are extremely interested in former Bronco Mike Adams, but need him to come down from his asking price by approximately 42 dollars to make the deal work.

    Also, they were apparently in hot pursuit of former Giants safety Deon Grant, failing to realize he retired last year.

    I’m being told now that they will lower their sights a bit and start targeting more mid-tier options from the bottom of the barrel.

  • G_WallyHunter

    This source on open thread, saying it will be between deadskins and eagles for Byrd? Is this a mean troll from some Washington reporter?
    Holy crap, 4 come on

    Who else is picturing going to sports site at 430 and seeing “Jairus Byrd signs with the Eagles”?

    • Javi Echie

      Rotoworld just posted that Bryd may resign with the Bills because his price tag has sooo many teams scared off, hell they are even saying that they doubt the skins will even get into a bidding war.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Saw that, go Google jairus Byrd eagles… Article saying eagles and skins are last two teams bidding for him?
        I’m very skeptical but holy crap… HOLY CRAP

        • Javi Echie

          Well then if nobody is bidding on his services maybe we can get him 9mil a year. Anything more then that he can go back to Buffalo and rot.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya as I said before, 4yr 44ish mil for 18ish guaranteed… Would be ideal

    • JofreyRice

      Eagles are sending out a smokescreen so they can position themselves better in the Craig Steltz sweepstakes.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya my mistake, a much more logical explanation, maybe next year a safety will come around

  • Andy124

    I’d take Bryd over Revis at the same price. To me, you draft the BPA, but you sign the BNA, and safety is our second biggest need right now.

    My dream is that Bryd and Barr transform our defense in to a top-12 unit overnight. And we need more B’s on defense. Byrd, Barr, Boykin, Barwin, Bradley and Bennie. That would B badass.

    • aub32

      Barelle Bevis?

      • Andy124

        If he agrees to legally change his name to that, I’ll go for it.

    • Ian Farley

      no chance Barr gets out of the top 15 of the draft. No chance.

      • korman

        A boy has the right to dream

      • Andy124

        Never speak in absolutes. Never ever ever. Period. End of story. No exceptions.

        • aub32

          You mean like not ever?

          • Andy124

            Yes. I should have been more clear.

  • Tom W

    Byrd over Revis. Don’t even know how the silly Revis talk started. Guy is a malcontent and off acl. Crossing fingers. If not a quiet Malcolm Jenkins signing and a second safety

    • Eagles4Life

      Silly??? In what regard? lol

    • korman

      Revis recovered extremely well from his injury, for what it’s worth (#1 ranked CB via PFF in 2013). I’m with you on the Byrd over him though.

      • JofreyRice

        Agreed. He’s money. I’m never going to be unhappy if they add a top 3 player at his position.

  • korman

    I understand putting the Dream Team fiasco on Howie’s shoulders, so I won’t argue with 13th (being in the top half is still a good spot to be in). But the small synopsis doesn’t really illuminate Roseman’s best talent – cap management. His maneuvers there made recovering from that disaster faster than it may have taken for a lot of other organizations.

    • JofreyRice

      I think cap management has to be done within the framework of fielding a winning team. For Roseman, the team had a sub .500 record on his watch, until this past season. Whomever you want to blame that on, Roseman was the GM, and that list is ranking GMs. No one is breaking their arm to pat Reggie McKenzie on his back because he got the Raiders out of cap hell and with a 60 million dollar surplus against the cap–the other piece of that is actually fielding a good team. Bringing in high-level contributors through the draft and FA.

      Hopefully Rosie can bring some consistency in that department, as well. I think the best thing he ever did was to keep badgering Chip Kelly until he signed on the dotted line.

    • Mr. Wu

      “You know nothing John Shnow”

    • Maggie

      You’ve got to remember that many Eagles “fans” think that Howie personally scouts several hundred players a year, all the while working in his office to manage the cap. That’s so they can say he is a poor evaluator, to back up their own genius thinking.

  • Eagles4Life

    And Twitter goes down an hour and a half from the floodgates opening. Classic lol.

    • aub32

      The love of the NFL is ridiculous. How did fans manage to break twitter almost 2 hours before anything has actually happened

  • Joe from Easton

    One hour and seventeen minutes!

    • Javi Echie

      56 minutes!!..lol We really are like small children counting down the minutes till christmas

      • George

        52 now…

        • Andy124

          50

          • George

            49 mins, 15 secs

          • Andy124

            2 minutes

  • peteike

    ‘The Onion’ Offers Richie Incognito A 5-Year, $50 Million Contract

    • Maggie

      Please tell me you’re joking! You just activated my gag reflex!

  • Stuart Philp

    If you were to listen to all these stories you’d think we were going to sign every big name FA. All the speculation comes to an end in about 40 minutes. #ByrdGang?

  • TNA

    I love the fact that the only people that are ripped on as much as JJ on this site are other “journalists.” (see what I did there?)
    If SK and TM were free agents, how much would you pay them to work for you and your new Eagles site?

    • George

      I’m working on a deal right now to make shiel the highest paid bloggers in the nation. Deal is in place, just sorting out guarentees

      • Stuart Philp

        100% guaranteed + signing bonus!

        • George

          His agent wants a brady-esque signing bonus, but I’m trying to bring him down

          • TNA

            I think the key question is…how many years? Sheil’s been going 24/7 365 for a while now and I wouldn’t be surprised if he develops RMI (carpal tunnel), loses sensitivity in his thumb for jimmying his recorder and mouse so much, and gets blurry vision after a couple more years of staring at film over and over and banging out posts.

  • Joe from Easton

    Just heard that Byrd’s latest tweet was “#GoDucks” … for whatever that’s worth.

    • jcwhy

      incorrect.

      • Joe from Easton

        damn my sources. I feel like Schefter.

        • G_WallyHunter

          You’re right its one of his latest tweets. A few days ago he tweeted Chung asking if he had changed his number, then he tweeted “#GoDucks.. just cause”…

        • jcwhy

          Him and McShay, stealing that money… per my sources

    • Nfl All Day

      Thats us! We got him!

  • GEAGLE

    My new twitter is @GEAGLEreal

    Cowboys will release ware

  • Nfl All Day

    HERE WE GOOOOOOOO!

    • Joe from Easton

      Why can’t I up vote this 100 times. Discus needs to get on this.

      • Andy124

        Sign out. Upvote as guest as many times as you want. Although, guest votes suck.

        • Joe from Easton

          Yea, I’d be a hypocrite to do that after my run in with a Guest earlier today.

  • Joe from Easton

    B/R ranked Zach Ertz the #10 TE in the NFL and the highest rated Rookie by far. Dude will be top 3-5 by the end of next year if he progresses as he should (remember, he had a shortened off season because of that sh!t graduation rule).

  • ant

    I hope they get darrella revis and mike cuz then all we will need is a pass rusher and the d is set

  • Eagles1018

    Demarcus Ware is a free agent. I’m just sayin…….

    • Joe from Easton

      if he can be had for one year and about 3 million I’d say go for it. We cut chung and get ware and it’s a wash. Never gonna happen though.

  • Eagles1018

    Donte Whittner to the Browns. They’re out if the Bryd sweepstakes. Who’s left ?

    • Joe from Easton

      Philly, Wash, and Buffalo.

  • Eagles1018