Report: Dolphins Interested In Gamble

Tom Gamble’s most recent stint with the Eagles could be a short one.

According to Jason Cole of the National Football Post, Gamble is a leading candidate to take over as the Miami Dolphins’ general manager:

Philadelphia director of player personnel Tom Gamble is the top candidate to replace former Miami General Manager Jeff Ireland, a source said Tuesday night. Gamble quickly emerged as the man owner Stephen Ross wants to get to run the organization after the team’s latest shakeup.

The Dolphins announced Tuesday that they were parting ways with Jeff Ireland.

The Eagles added Gamble as vice president of player personnel last February to replace Ryan Grigson, who went to Indianapolis. Gamble first spent time with the Eagles’ organization from 1988 to 1994. He spent eight seasons with the San Francisco 49ers – seven as director of pro personnel and one as director of player personnel – before rejoining the Eagles. He previously worked as a college scout for the Indianapolis Colts as well.




Multiple teams with GM openings showed interest in Gamble last offseason, but ultimately he landed in Philadelphia and reported to Howie Roseman.

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  • Brent E. Sulecki

    let him go after our draft

  • evanphilly

    I still think he is the real GM of this team. Howie is the face

    • Andy124

      But oh what a face. Beauty moles like that don’t grow on trees you know.

    • Adam

      Chip is the GM in everything but name

  • GEAGLE

    GTFO here….,like I don’t need to be waking up to this crap…gamble is so valuable…can’t lose him after one year wtf

  • NickS1

    Don’t do it, Tom! Jeff, give this man a raise!!!

  • Will

    Wow that would hurt to lose Gamble….hopefully he stays….wow everyone was hoping he would draft better player’s, have better evaluation of talent….bummer to lose this guy….I really thought Gamble was the missing piece to help the FO build a Championship team here in Philly….

  • Kushan Patel

    Wake up to this? On hump day?!! Global warming is a very real problem. Take note folks.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Well, that sucks.
    It was great while it lasted.
    He can go try and fix the disaster from hurricane Ireland down there, 6 1st and 2nd round picks he made aren’t on the team anymore, that’s nuts.
    Please don’t go Tom. He came to Philly because he is from the area, correct? Maybe he stays because of that? Please lord

  • GEAGLE

    I wish I never read this

  • GEAGLE

    First the Wolff article, now this? Tim, Sheil….wtf did I ever do to you to deserve waking p to this?

    • Will

      Wolff was an eye opener, Gamble is a shocker for sure….

  • Adam

    I think it’s important to take a step back and analyze this. Just because he’s tops on the list doesn’t mean he’s interested. Don’t forget Gamble came to Philly to be closer to his father who is in hospice care. Also he wanted to work for the team he started out with.

    Gamble, who spoke to a handful of Eagles reporters today on the phone, admitted that his situation in San Francisco was great. But he said the allure of returning to the first NFL team he worked for, and to the area that he was raised proved too much to resist.

    “I wasn’t looking to go anywhere. I was in a great situation … as good as it gets in this business,” Gamble said. “But it was Philadelphia. For me, that means something.”

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Tom-Gamble-explains-why-he-left-the-49ers-for-the-Eagles.html#zLWfA1STjEY6izhf.99

    • Will

      Thanks Adam…

    • NickS1

      I remember this. Hope it still holds true. MIA isn’t exactly a horrible place to have to work.

      • Adam

        Neither was San Fran, though.

        • NickS1

          He was never getting that GM job. That said, I could make a great case for MIA over SF. The #1 argument is a toss up between the serious tax difference (you get raped in CA, no income tax in FL), the weather, and the quality of “sites” around you. I mean, all three pretty much win the argument, for me, at least, in picking MIA over SF. But to each their own. I’ve heard good things about SF, so I don’t mean to knock it.

      • Will

        Compared to January in Philly….I think this would be his first GM job….not a lateral move like the one that brought him to Philly…can’t fault anyone for better themselves this will be interesting how committed Gamble is to finish what he started here in Philly….

    • Will

      Gamble interviewed for GM vacancies with the New York Jets and Jaguars this off-season, but did not get either job, he said, for reasons that were “some on my end and some on the other end.” He did not say that becoming a GM was his ultimate goal, but it is obviously a step he wishes to someday take.

      “If you win at anywhere you are and you’re in a prominent position, those things are going to come up,” Gamble said. “I don’t come in every day [and] fixate on it. I don’t think about it. To me, it’s the inevitable if you have success and you’re around success.”

      Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Tom-Gamble-explains-why-he-left-the-49ers-for-the-Eagles.html#jKt8OuA4io7MvqF8.99

    • Tom w

      Yep exactly what I remembered. Can’t blame him of he goes, but I gotta believe he atleast promised Howie 2 offseasons as a gentleman and professional.

    • Richard Colton

      Good points. Here’s the conventional wisdom argument:

      A) Everyone knows successful teams are built through the draft
      B) The Eagles last draft class looks outstanding
      C) With a fickle and difficult process like scouting players, there is no guarantee (sorry John) that next year’s draft class will be as good
      D) That means Gamble’s stock may never be higher than it is now
      E) So if his ultimate goal is GM, he may feel like it’s now or never
      F) so we may be F’ed

      • theycallmerob

        why do A, B, C, D, and E culminate in F? I mean, I like Gamble too and I’m sure he’s really good at his job, but I dunno if he’s the keystone in the process.

        • Will

          Gamble has a special eye for football talent…..I for one do not want to lose this guy at all…Best case scenario Gamble holds a press conference saying he is not interested in the job…

          • Adam

            He’s a great talent, but don’t forget: we also overvalue our own guys. We’re not going to crash and burn without him.

          • Will

            I just hope he stays…this roster still needs major changes….San Fran had some Nasty defenses now and back in the day…

          • Tom w

            How do you figure? He has never had the final say anywhere he has worked. … You have any basis for this statement or just making an unsupported argument again?

          • Will

            See post below…article bleedingreenation…good moring tom had your coffee yet…lol..

          • Tom W

            Changes nothing. He didn’t have final say in SF or Philly in who they picked. Shit Grigson helped Howie have the greatest draft in eagles history in 2012 when Gamble wasn’t even here. Now Grigson’s gone and Gamble is here. And we had another great draft … Maybe genius its Howie that is the determining factor not a guy we brought in february. Maybe the decision maker at the niners and eagles is the important factor in who these two teams are drafting … hence why they are still the gms and having great drafts …cmon son dont just regurgitate articles…

            try and put 2 and 2 together. Is he an asset, yes. Am I losing a minute of sleep over it … no. Howie and Chip are the key. Not straying from the strategy is the key and not instead listening to the dopey fans and you and going and buying up pricey older free agents to try to buy a title … it doesn’t work it never has … failed multiple times in washington, dallas, even here in 2011 … doesn’t work in a salary cap era where concussions have seriously altered the lifespan of alot of athletes. We lost a playoff game in Chip’s first year. Relax and enjoy the plan. Don’t freak out and try to win a ring next year. Do this the correct way and win multiple rings over the next 12 years.

          • Will

            All good but there are more FA Safeties 1 or 2 would be a plus, they are hard to find in the draft, Dix is rated above everyone else in the draft…we will see what they do….I would not underestimate Tom Gamble….there’s a reason he is being sought out as a GM….You have some great points, I as a Fan tend to judge the final product on the field and results from a win loss perspective…

          • Tom W

            I could see one free agent safety in Byrd or Ward because they both played for CHIP so he knows they will buy into his program and are low risk to be premadonnas like normal free agents and he really is a safety guy —- if they don’t get franchised. Maybe a cheaper option like Clemons … they all fit w the age/size requirements

            The young olb on pittsburgh who is a free agent is of interest to me as well .. he is only 25 … not a stud yet but knows the system … if we look to add a pass rusher in free agency.. well coached etc…

            We can find an upgrade on Square in free agency who won’t break the bank … or in the late rounds of the draft .. big run stopping nose tackles that only play a third of the snaps are fairly easy to find. I am on the fence about Geathers … you can’t find his size anywhere … be nice if Krueger pushes him to unleash the beast…

            Probably can bring in competition at backup guard/center as well, and corners 4 and 5. These guys could be had in rds 4 or 5 of the draft as well or after the initial rush of free agency is over.

          • Maggie

            There are people who do not need the final say just for the sake of their egos.

        • cliff henny

          it’s all Howie, trust me…i saw the notes lurie talked about….his record keeping is glorious

        • Andy124

          I’d like to try to answer if I may:
          “F” Represents losing Gamble, which is certainly not ideal, rather than being truly F’ed. The beautiful symetry of F representing F’ed is more valuable than attempting a nuanced impact analysis of Gamble’s departure.

          Haven’t read all the comments yet. Have we started with the Gamble puns yet? Has he ever been the head man before? If not, this may be too big a gamble for Miami to make.

          • Chris

            Would it really be gambling if it was a sure-fire bet?

          • Andy124

            Miami already stole the fresh prince from philly, they can’t have Gamble too! That’s just not Howie roll!

          • theycallmerob

            missed this one, you beat me to howie

          • Andy124

            There’s enough howie to go around. You know one day he’ll lead us to multiple SuperFoles where we’ll win many Nick Foles League championships and bring home 7 Lombardis.

          • theycallmerob

            it seems you and richard (he who holds the wine glass) have thrown that door wide open. quite the Gamble this early in the morning, but I guess that’s just Howie do.

          • NickS1

            Nice 2fer

          • theycallmerob

            is this the Poster Formerly Known As NickSaenz?

          • NickS1

            That it is, good sir.

          • Andy124

            Damn. I thought we had finally chased him off…

          • NickS1

            You son of a b!tch

          • Andy124

            lol

          • Richard Colton

            Not saying my opinion’s worth more than anyone else’s, but I’m the only guy here with a wine glass that posts…so…

          • Ark87

            Yes, but the Crux of A-E, is really C. which if true, means that Gamble may not be able to prevent a flop in the draft this spring, or one may further deduce that his presence and last year’s draft may be a coincidence/fluke. Be that the case, then F doesn’t really hold true, as we’d just be losing someone who had inflated value.

          • Andy124

            But are you willing to gamble on that?

          • Ark87

            I think it’s safe to say,someone is going to take that Gamble.

        • Tom w

          I agree.

        • Richard Colton

          F’ed if you don’t want to gamble on replacing him with someone else.

          couldn’t resist

          • theycallmerob

            walked into that.

      • Will

        It comes down to how committed Gamble is to stay to finish what he started and how loyal to the Eagles organization….I got to believe he is the type of individual that finishes what he started here in Philly…

    • bill

      It’s also possible, though I don’t really have any evidence to support this, that Gamble’s position here is all the stuff he enjoys (player evaluation, roster construction, football stuff, etc.) and none of the stuff he might find tiresome (contracts, cap loopholes, organizational management) since those are Howie’s responsibilities. It might be that while he has a technically lower title than what he’d have in another org, he might have all the power and responsibility that he wants, and none of the BS that he doesn’t.
      Again, complete speculation, but makes some sense to me. Him leaving SF for essentially the same job here made little sense (family issue aside), so I always wondered if this wasn’t the case when he was hired. This set-up with Howie technically “in charge” may not be such a bad set-up for “football guys” if it goes the way I described. They can focus on what they love and let Howie deal with the BS and the media scrutiny.

      • Adam

        Could be. I wouldn’t discount his connection to the city either though. He clearly wanted back in the area, because he left a much better team for a bad team with a wildcard head coach coming from college. It was a.. ugh.. gamble for him to come here.

  • Tom w

    Called it yesterday. But gamble wanted to come here last year so his family could be together. Don’t think he would leave less than 9 months later. And this shouldn’t be all that surprising, he was highly respected before he came. Howie and chip are the key anyway.

    As for Wolff, knew something was up once he was cleared by the doctors and practiced but didn’t play. He is young … I’m over it. He will be fine and projects to alteast be a strong competitor for a starting position or good 3d safety. Nice article

    • Will

      That knee is all healed already no more problems? Not what I read…agree a 3rd Safety maybe… who’s 1 and 2 then next year?…This why I hope Gamble stays…Chung and Allen both need replacing….

      • cliff henny

        byrd and joyner.

  • Joe from Easton

    This blows. Positions like his usually lead to a promotion or the door, but I’d like to have seen us get two or three years out of him before either one. I’m pretty sure those years wouldn’t have been “get out” worthy.

  • Andy

    No!

  • cliff henny

    at least Miami is a mess, so maybe that’ll dissuade him

    • Will

      lol…

      • cliff henny

        right, it’s doubtful. ever been to miami? he might as file the divorce papers on his ride to airport. that is one sick city.

        • theycallmerob

          dangit cliff, you should have a segment on the travel channel. I’m sold on half the places you bring up

          • cliff henny

            yeah, i pretty much just chased hotties and nightlife from 27-35. worst i ever lived in was lake tahoe. days were awesome…but the nightlife was awful, 7-1 guys to girl ratio, and 90+% of the ladies were earthy girls. sure you military boys have done it, but us stateside guys, man, that’s tough to power thru…i did…but tough

          • theycallmerob

            i mean, international flavors are great and all, but they’re not exactly throwing themselves at men in uniform. well, except for the suicide bombers of course.

          • cliff henny

            well that sux. about the only reason i considered navyrotc coming out of high school.

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t you know that Cliff is secretly Bert the conqueror? Burt Kreisler is hysterical….Van wilder was based on his life
            ….
            Speaking of hysterical, I fell asleep watching Jim Jeffries so I’m in an extra abrasive disrespectful mood today.. Lol
            ..
            He said “I could never be a gay man, because I can’t have sex with a man,,I can’t have sex with anyone I respect”…lol I friggin lost it

        • Will

          lol…too funny…lol…

        • GEAGLE

          If I don’t get to Miami once a year, I will lose it….lol I even took a friggin bus there when I was young..27hours, 5 different bus’s

          • cliff henny

            as long as you arent attached to your money, it’s a fun city. a, everything is in your face expensive but b, those girls are not shy about expecting you to spend it. but it’s a hot latin girl smorgusbord

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah if you are cheap, Miami ain’t for you…
            ….
            You also have to look out for scams…I’m down there with my boys a few years ago, and my friend was watching his money so much that he barely ate all week..now we go out to the south beach strip, and the Russian model types are just all over u..they get my friend to follow them to a small club in an ally fear. The Clevelander of their chosing..we go upstairs, and these girls are all over us…now I always did well with woman, so right away I knew something was wrong…it was too easy. I don’t care if you are the best looking man n the world, it’s never that easy to get a model….so my stupid friend is mesmerized by this one girl and he wouldn’t spend money on food all week, but she convinced hm to charge 5k on his card for bottle service…the other girl was all over me, and she was soooo hot, but I knew something was all wrong so I had no interest in her…they were talking about sleeping in our hotel room, and I just knew something was wrong, so I wouldn’t buy any bottles or drink the alcohol and if started to ignore the girl that was working me…..I keep telling my friends this is a bullshit setup, but they were to mesmerized to use their brains…club close, the girls start walking down the steps with us to lead, they walk ahead turn into a little room when they were supposed to be leaving with us..as we try to follow them in the room, bouncers stop us and say we have to wait for them outside…right away I told my friends these girls aren’t coming…my stupid idiot friend out 5k made us sit in the he alley and wait for like 20 minutes, girls never came outside… Lol

          • cliff henny

            haha…i’d still be making fun of him. my goal would of been to see tears in the alley. could make that story alot shorter, just say ‘russian strippers’…the rest is pretty much assumed

          • GEAGLE

            You really had to see how cheap this dude was being for 5 days lol. He was barely friggin feeding himself not to spend money…and the day before we are going home he loses it thinking two of the most beautiful Russian woman fall from the sky and into our lap? Lol like I always done my thing, and it has NEVER been THAT easy before…so all off the sudden we just hit the pimpin lottery? GTFO here….it was so absurd, I can’t believe that happened to us to this day…when the hell has too good ever turned out to be true?

            This idiot tried to call the cops and challenge the credit card charges lol the next day….

          • NickS1

            aka Heaven….if you have money

  • Will

    Gamble was hired away from the 49ers and by the Eagles in February 2013, nearly a month after the organization hired Kelly as the head coach. The Gamble hire was received with high praise from around the league. Eagles GM Howie Roseman was excited to have Gamble, son of former Eagles GM Harry Gamble, join the organization.

    “He’s not only a talented evaluator, but also a good man and the type of person you want as a part of your team. Tom and I have had a great relationship over the years and I know he’s excited to come home. He had a great run in San Francisco and they have been very successful over the last few years. He will jump right in with our group and get working on free agency and the draft.”

    The loss of Gamble would be disappointing news for the Eagles front office, but it’s no surprise to see teams interested in him. He was part of the organization that helped turn the San Francisco 49ers back into a talented team. Along with Roseman, Gamble was likely responsible for the Eagles’ successful 2013 offseason moves, which included some quality free agent signings (Connor Barwin, Donnie Jones, Bradley Fletcher, etc.) and a promising draft class (Lane Johnson, Zach Ertz, Bennie Logan, etc.)

    It remains to be seen if Gamble wants to leave Philadelphia. Accepting the GM job in Miami would certainly be a promotion, but Gamble has local ties in the area. He was born in Haddonfield, NJ. And as Jeff McLane points out, Gamble came back to Philly partly to be near his parents, including his father who is currently in hospice care.

    Nevertheless, it’s an interesting situation to monitor this offseason.-BleedingreenNation

    • GEAGLE

      He better not go to the team that robbed me of Dion Jordan…I will snap

      • Will

        LMAO…calm down he hasn’t taken the job yet…Dion didn’t work out to well another reason Ireland got canned…

        • GEAGLE

          No crap he didn’t work out…they drafted him to play a 4-3..I coulda told you on draft day that was stupid

          • Will

            yup….

      • Will

        Have some faith Gambled committed to help the Philadelphia Eagles, I believe he will turn the job down, there will be other opportunities for him down the road….

      • theycallmerob

        look on the bright side. maybe he’ll trade him to howie for two 7th rd picks and a dozen eggs

        • Will

          LMAO only you Rob…LOL…

        • GEAGLE

          Might have to throw in Graham if you want them eggs in return

      • Token

        Yea, Jordan is such a stud……………………………………………..

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah cuz you have any idea what Jordan has done all year..stats are fun

          • Token

            read some local articles on the Dolphins. He played 45% of college snaps. Was a injury risk. Still is a injury risk this year. And hasnt shown much ability in the NFL. Bad against the run. Theres a reason he didnt play much in college. We are finding that out.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t have to read a damn thing, I live in the real world where EVERYONE KNEW that you don’t draft Dion Jordan for his ROOKIE PRODUCTION…try again fool

          • Token

            Well I cant match the caps thats for sure. Dion Jordan is a combine warrior. A gym super hero. Hes an athlete thats not very good at football.

            Hes not a pass rusher. Hes bad against the run. Hes not even great in coverage like people want to believe. If you had all of that in one guy he would have actually played more snaps on the field in college than he did on the bench.

            Happens every single year. People, teams, GMs fall in love with combine numbers and measurables. Luckily the Dolphins saved Howie from making the same mistake.

          • GEAGLE

            Blah…sorry but your predicting players talent has failed too many times for me to read three paragraphs of your player assessment…weren’t you saying what a bum Barwin was? How did that work out? Told you so

          • Token

            Eh bum is too strong for Barwin. Hes a solid guy. Cant rush the passer at all. But does other things well enough to start.

  • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

    I think Dick would agree – this is just one more reason to hate the city of Miami.

    • Chris

      I’m not sure if you’re trolling, or really trying to bring constructive conversation to the thread

      • Richard Colton

        why can’t it be both?

      • theycallmerob

        just seems very fond of his owner

        • GEAGLE

          I have my “gimp” Dutch…and Colt has his “groupie”

          When you reach Richard Colton status, it’s only right that you have a head groupie

  • PaoliBulldog

    Stephen Ross is Daniel Snyder lite. If Gamble takes the job, he’ll have to convince Ross to crawl into a hole and not come out until the season is over.

  • JofreyRice

    Wasn’t all bad for Ireland, he found guys like Chris Clemons and Reshad Jones in the mid rounds.He actually seems to have an eye for DBs. Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, brought in Grimes, this year. Shouldn’t have let the former get away so easily, though.

    Can’t have your signature QB fall apart down the stretch and the No 3. overall pick you traded up for contribute 2 sacks all year, though. And the o-line was a mess. How do you let your LT walk and think Jon Martin is going to be able to step in and protect the blindside? Even if you don’t take a T at #3 overall, you need a better plan than that.

    • cliff henny

      cant leave out 50m for wallace.

      • JofreyRice

        I thought it was 60 Million? Whew, the guy is making 15 million next season! Not a bust, he still posted almost a thousand yards, but fifteen-freaking million? That seems way above market value for him.

        • GEAGLE

          Think it was 60

        • NickS1

          One way or the other it’s over paying for a one trick pony. If Desean were to actually make a stink about money, he should point to Mike Wallace’s contract and Mike Wallace’s contract only.

    • GEAGLE

      Sean smith was the worst CB in the NFL this year.. Just SAYIN… Good OL Andy keep signing name brand busts

      • JofreyRice

        By whose standards? The guy erased Riley Cooper in the Eagles game, and was regularly playing press man against the better WRs in the game.

        • GEAGLE

          Dude, I’m a defensive nut job…think it didn’t watch KC’s top defense all year long? Trust me, he was horrendous. You guys crucified Cary and Bradley, I promise you Philly would have despised Sean smith if he played for us THIS year…maybe it was a down year, maybe he was hurt, but 100% he was terrible!!! I don’t even have to look at PFF stats to know, but for those that like stats, I’m sure that site would back me up…
          ….
          FYI: the only person to stop coop all year was Mike vick

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Are you saying that we should believe your opinion over Jofrey Rice’s argument because you are a defensive expert?

          • GEAGLE

            I’m saying you should believe my eyes overnJoeffrys because I closely watched KCs defense about 11-17 games, and unlike most people you talk to, I don’t speak on something I don’t know first hand…I have no problem differing to others or saying I don’t have the intel to speak on something unlike the 99% of blowhards you find on the internet AND media that have a second and third hand oppinion on everything
            ..
            Don’t worry, I’m sure everyone’s beloved PFF stats will come out soon, and you can get back to me then

          • Will

            GEAGLE -Tom likes to argue just to argue you have to take him with a grain of salt….

          • Tom W

            WTF is your problem cuz … I don’t argue to argue … I try and point out how reactionary and ridiculous most of your statements are based on recent team history or the actual game itself… I didn’t disagree or comment on Geagle’s statement about Sean Smith AND i AGREED with him about Dion Jordan …. so go lol and rotfl somewhere else

          • JofreyRice

            This is the same guy that thinks Cordy Glenn is the NT for the Ravens and pining for the guy that helped Jeff Ireland get fired.

          • Will

            Geagle is right about thrusting Dion into a 4-3 Defense was stupid and he is better suited in a 3-4….

          • Richard Colton

            can we trade him for Graham even up?

          • Will

            Graham plays well given the chance as a pass rusher…I dunno…Graham is fed up with not starting maybe a 4-3 is better suited for his game….not a bad idea I would think an almost even trade depending on contract issues…

          • theycallmerob

            hell no. I want eggs or loaf of bread in return.

          • JofreyRice

            They made him a passrush specialist only, and had him in a 2 point stance quite a lot. Even in that limited role, he could have made more of an impact than he did. Fluid athlete that got pushed past the pocket and showed to be extremely raw attacking the QB.

            With the right coaching, and situation, he may end up being good; he is a very good athlete. But he wasn’t worth the #3 overall pick, and there is no doubt that the trade up to get him colored the Dolphins decision. Think about the guys projected to go #3 overall this year–Barr or Clowney. Think the teams thinking about drafting those guys are looking for 2 sacks and 26 tackles in their rookie campaigns?

          • Will

            No doubt 2 sacks for a #3 pick is disappointing to say the least it goes to show the draft is a crap shoot you really do not know what you got till you put the tea bag in hot water like someone said and I think wiser words were never spoken…I’ve never understood why a high draft pick goes for a situational DE player anyway…You would think it would be used for a player whose on the field every down….

          • GEAGLE

            Not really…..Every single team considering drafting Dion KNEW FOR A FACT that he needed a year to put on weight and get his shoulder right…teams drafting Jordan wouldn’t have cared or expected rookie production…they drafted him as an investment that would pay off in a BIG TIME way down the line…whatever Dion would give them as a rookie would just be gravy…

            So it’s seriously foolish to talk about Jordan’s rookie year like some kind of underachiever…We can prematurely annoint him or tear him down…but fact of the matter is that if you aren’t a blowhard, then you shut your mouth and wait and see when it comes to Dion…those that don’t care. About credibility, be my guest, call him a bust…

          • Tom W

            Correct. Mayock said the same thing – situational pass rusher his first year or two. Ireland panicked and stupidly traded up in a win-now year to get Jordan. Kid was rehabbing his shoulder through august w no time to put on weight … and his use as a d end was idiotic … The kid is the ultimate joker w potential to be a top notch pass rusher … you guys think Barwin can do everything well enough … Jordan would have well into a different universe if Chip and Billy D got their hands on him.

            I would trade Graham or Cole for Jordan in a split second … I would trade our second for Jordan yesterday … gotta stop looking at short cited rookie stats for an injured player put in the wrong position …

          • Richard Colton

            When I read your post it sounded a whole lot like “In this year’s surprise of the draft, highly touted OLB prospect Barr fell all the way to the Eagles in round one”

          • Will

            LMAO….

          • GEAGLE

            Brandon Williams is the NT of the ravens…and sorry, but I simply can’t believe that any of you have watched Seatle,Carolina and KC’s defense THIS YEAR as closely as me….I’m like maniacle with it

          • Will

            I watched Seattle and KC …Must admit was pulling for Andy…Jamal Charles going down on the 6th play suked…

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, lol I’d be embarrassed to tell you how crazy I am

          • Will

            I am a Defensive Fanatic….also watched the 49ers all year as well…

          • GEAGLE

            I literally download the torrents to those teams games and just watch their defense and fast forward thru the offensive snaps, unless the other team has defenders I like…it’s a disease lol

          • Will

            I’m hoping we go Defense in this FA and upcoming draft, I wonder if people realize how our Defense kept us in a lot of games this year. Very few saw them keeping most teams to 21 points or less. There is a lot of upgrades still needed but they are close to being out right great with a few more player’s….

          • GEAGLE

            What did I promise for 6 months before the season started?
            ..
            “By the end of this season everyone would realize that we already had 70% of the pieces to a good defense already in place”

            I wrote those exact words 500 times, fought with everyone all day every day about, and did have one single expert or analyst who backed up my oppinion…..don’t care about offense,mbut you won’t get me to talk defense if I don’t know what I’m talking about…if I’m not sure, I say I don’t know

          • Will

            I thought we needed a true NT, OLB and 2 Safties,,,,or 30% more but yes they surprised me and out did my expectation this year…I thought they should go after Ray Horton but Billy D has been nothing short of Aces considering the talent they gave him player wise….what a quick turn around for a Defensive squad…credit to Billy D and his coaches and the player’s…and yes you called it for sure no one can argue that…it is fact…lol…

          • Token

            Probably the same thing you have predicted and will predict for every single Eagles season. That they will DOMINATE! Every player is a ALL PRO! If they suck you will just FORGET YOU EVER MENTIONED THEM! When they start the season poorly you will DISAPPEAR FOR WEEKS!

            Ah, those were the good ol days.

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll admit – I was on the Rex Ryan train by week six. Davis turned a corner.

          • UKEagle99

            “What did I promise for 6 months before the season started?”

            Errrm, everything.

          • anon

            We wanted turnovers, we got turnovers. They stood up amazingly well given how much they were on the field.

          • Maggie

            And yet you say you played OLine for, what was it now….oh yes, 9 years.

          • JofreyRice

            Yesterday, you said it was Cordy Glenn, buddy. Sometime around when you mentioned that Kelce had a hard time with Meechum (?). Obviously you watch incredibly closely.

          • GEAGLE

            Cordy Gelnn is the NT I would target cheap because he lost his friggin job to a rookie, THUS the ravens won’t sign him…that’s what I said. If I thought he was the ravens NT, why the hell would I think we could sign him? ATleast bring your A game if you feel like getting cyber smacked around!

          • JofreyRice

            Cordy Glenn is an OT for the Buffalo Bills, cyber-smacker.

            Like I said, you watch very closely, obviously.

          • Token

            lol. Dont you realize hes a DEFENSIVE NUTCASE! Theres not a player in the league he hasnt scouted personally. What he means is that Glenn is a prime candidate to make the switch to NT. Im mean hes fat right? Its gotta work.

          • Will

            LMAO everyone is cracking me up this morning what a great Day to be an Eagles Fan keep it coming….

          • anon

            uh-oh, got GEAGLE melting!!

          • UKEagle99

            Only in the early games, his night job is NT

          • JofreyRice

            So basically, just your opinion, as a self-proclaimed expert. Sean Smith is a better cornerback than Cary Williams. He’s a better athlete, a better cover guy, and a surer tackler.

            Actually PFF does not back you up. Smith rates out as their 50th Cornerback out of 110 who played at least 75% of their teams snaps. Cary creeped up the rankings from 100th to 80th. Williams missed an incredible 13 tackles, with the benefit of having most of the plays in front of him, in off-coverage. He gave up more yards, and defensed less passes. He had one more INT than Smith, and gave up one less TD.

          • GEAGLE

            Last year, I would Agee with you 100%..Sean smith was a better CB then Cary. This year, for whatever reason that I don’t have the answer to, he was HORRIBLE!!!

            PFF already released the complete season rankings? Btw, i wasn’t debating Cary’s play….I simply saidcSean smith had a horrendous year that made Andy look dumb…I promise you he was really really bad
            ..
            Come on Joeffry, you are a prick, but ii know you are smart enough to know eagles defensive stats really can’t compare with players across the league…our offense was dead last in time of possession….you can debate me all day. But keep it real

          • JofreyRice

            PFF updates them each week. I watched about 4 KC games this year myself, and Smith was pretty damn good. He was pressing D. Thomas and E. Decker and held up pretty well against Peyton in the first meeting. He let up a completion to Da’Rick Rogers in the playoff game, but also had a pretty big pass breakup late. It was clear that Luck was going less against him, and more at the safeties.

          • GEAGLE

            We can agree to disagree because we both know this goes no where…and I spent more time talking about Sean Smith then I really care to…just a harmless passing comment, you are right and I’m wrong…Sean smith looked like Deon sanders all year…now back to debating birds

          • JofreyRice

            Don’t recall saying that anywhere, just that Smith was a better DB than Cary Williams, did a solid job in KC, and that Ireland should not have let him go from the Dolphins. Are you implying Williams is playing at Deion-level? I don’t put it past you.

          • Token

            How DARE you talk about CARY like this!?!?!?!? Hes a ALL PRO! He will WHIP this DEFENSE into SHAPE! LeAdEr!

            I mean seriously, where does one expect to get when talking with this guy?

          • BlindChow

            I read somewhere that Smith didn’t play as well in the 2nd half of the year as he did the first, and some analysts attributed KC’s decline to poor cornerback play after their fast start.

            I think the fact they played mostly scrub and backup QB’s for the first half of the year played a part, too.

          • Token

            Maybe.

            But more importantly I remember seeing Cary Williams sucking. The Eagles can do better at that spot. Possibly with someone already on the roster named Brandon Boykin.

          • anon

            Not when Boy King gives up 6 inches on everyone. Benefit of the slot is that more balls are thrown at his height. Also Cary played pretty well made some big plays down the stretch in each game. That Dez Bryant PBU probably got us in the playoffs.

          • Token

            Explain why height matters in this scheme.

            The slot more balls thrown at his height? Thats a new idea.

            Boykin is a better overall corner than Cary is. Regardless of where they play. From what I remember in the Dallas game, that jump ball to Bryant wasnt at Boykins height.

          • JofreyRice

            Maybe. I know Flowers fell off, too. I think they tried to get a little too cute moving Marcus Cooper outside and Flowers inside in the dime (they don’t run a nickel package). It’s a lot to ask to constantly rotate inside/outside. Don’t think Cortland Finnegan did it too well in SL, either. Also a lot to ask of Cooper, who was a UDFA.

            I thought both Houston & Hali were injured or slowed down for a good part of the second half of the season?

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, I actually do think the stats are a little skewed–towards Williams. Playing off-man coverage is much safer (and easier) than playing tight man-to-man, which is what KC asked Smith to do, a lot. That’s why Asante took umbrage when Deion Sanders called him one of the best “off-coverage cornerbacks” a few years ago. The implication is that it’s a lot easier.

            As far as me being a prick. Yeah, maybe a little, but it would be easier to interact with you if you weren’t constantly breaking your arm trying to pat yourself on the back, and making grand proclamations about your vast football expertise.

          • anon

            think his stat lines would say different. plus we move all over the field so our guys aren’t constantly covered by one player.

          • Rahkem

            Sean Smith is very overrated , hes not a fluid athelete hes too long for his own good and lacks the physicality to make up for it.

    • theycallmerob

      I’m guessing they Gambled on Incognito taking the young LT under his wing. Worked better than they imagined

      • GEAGLE

        If incognito wasn’t such a fat immobile slob, I would want him on our bench….piece or crap? Absolutely…but anyone who ever played the game would go to war with incognito types any day

        • Adam

          Way too toxic.

          • GEAGLE

            Toxic for who? The public? Miami Locker room to a man stuck up for him, after dropping 300 N bombs in front of their black players…the media portrays him as toxic, but I think that’s not the case at all in the locker room…wish we had 53 psychos like him lol….I played OT 9 years, I woulda loved a dude like that next to me

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Not sure if that speaks to Incognito or the other guys in the lockerroom. That POS has caused problems everywhere he’s been. I wouldn’t take him if he paid the Eagles

          • Will

            The man is a true warrior in the trenches but a head case for sure…

          • GEAGLE

            An incognito psycho warrior could line up at Guard next to me any day…he can curse at me as much as he wants, call me as many derrorogatory slanderous word for Italians that he can think of, talk about murdering my mother, as long as he had my back in a scrum and knew his assignments and did his job….every team needs a few psychos…lol look how many great coaches put up with Romanowski…I’m surenRomanowski and incognito aren’t much different…just that Romo didn’t have camera phones in his face back then
            ….
            Could you imagine if they had camera phones back when LT played, and would RAMPAGE thru NY every night?

          • Will

            Incognito reminds me of an Offensive version of Suh type player maybe they are dirty player’s or just scrapper’s people like to hate on…I’ve watched him play and he holds his own in the trenches…come to think of it Jon Ruyan comes to mind as well….

          • Will

            LMAO would prefer Incognito over Watkins for sure….

          • Adam

            If half the things that are being said about what he does to rookies are true, I don’t want him in my locker room corrupting and belittling my rookies, don’t give a damn how psycho or nasty he is on the field.

            Read what Bennie Logan says about his experience coming into the NFL as a rookie. THAT’S how it should be and that’s how you build a championship attitude.

            http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/01/07/eagles-wake-call-chemistry-matters-kelly-says/

            Pretty much the polar opposite of what Incognito brings to the table.

          • anon

            yes and no. I think the lockerroom stood behind the principle more out of dislike of Martin than like for incognito who was several times voted the dirtiest player in the league. That seems to go against everything that chip wants on the team.

  • mtn_green

    Seemed they way Gamble took a lateral job last year which is rare, that he was waiting for a gm job. Not surprising wish him well.

    • Token

      Wanted to come home.

  • Tom W

    Zack Berman tweeting about my boy Kruger … added 16 lbs of muscle already and looking to get to 290 by OTAs …. if this kid could be half of JJ Watt I will be a pig in shit … for a seventh rounder …

    Made me think — reviewing the underclassmen coming out … there is a bunch of kids doing it for the money and financial situation that shouldn’t be …walter football listed atleast 20 or so he said should have stayed in instead of exiting and getting drafted in rds 4-7 …. but if I am Howie I would definitely rate higher and take a kid say 20 yrs old who came out a year too soon and falls to round 5-7 than a 5 yr senior who is 23….. seems like a no-brainer to me … if the following year the same young kid would be a 2-4th rounder because of an increase in playing time and getting bigboy strength and just getting better…seems like a serious advantage if you can get those same kids a year early at a discount and “teach” them the techniques and system a year early ….

    • Richard Colton

      The kid we “hid” on IR for a year with no injury. How nice would it be if both he and Bamiro turned out to be players? I’d settle for 1 out of 2.

  • Rahkem

    NOOOOOOOOO i would cry. Luckily weve got his scouting for this years prospects at least but i wanted him for at least another season , its inevitble that he’ll leave hes just too good. But i was thinking that since he made a lateral move to leave san fran and come here maybe he just really wants to be home in philly. If he does leave hopefully the staff he leaves behind has learned alot from him.