Kelly: Foles Is the Guy Going Forward

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Minnesota Vikings

On the surface, questioning whether Nick Foles will be the starting quarterback for the Eagles in 2014 might seem silly.

The 24-year-old just put together a season in which he led the league in yards-per-attempt and became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for 25+ touchdowns and three or fewer interceptions. Foles’ 119.2 passer rating was the third-highest of any QB all-time for a single season.




But still, considering he is not someone Chip Kelly hand-picked, the question was worth asking.

As you build the roster this offseason, are you planning to have Foles as the starting quarterback going forward?

"Yeah," Kelly said.

So he’s the guy?

"Yeah."

As far as votes of confidence go, this was probably the biggest one Kelly has given Foles in terms of labeling him the quarterback of the future.

Asked for Foles' strengths, Kelly said: "I think he’s a great decision-maker. I think he’s extremely accurate where he puts the ball. I think he’s very young, and I think people still sometimes forget about that. He didn’t become our starter until after Mike [Vick] went down in the Giants game. But in the short body of work he did, I think he did an outstanding job.

"Our evaluations are based on demonstrated abilities, and he demonstrated during the time that he was in there that he deserved to be the starting quarterback."

The Eagles are in a good spot with Foles. Because of the terms of the CBA, Foles is not allowed to re-negotiate his contract until after his third season (2014). He's due to make $615,000 next year.

The Eagles can see what he does for an encore and then make a decision about whether to commit big dollars to him for 2015 and beyond.

While Kelly backed Foles as the guy going forward, he did not dismiss the idea of competition. Michael Vick is set to become a free agent, and Kelly said he's excited about working with Matt Barkley this offseason. The Eagles could look to add a body at the quarterback position in the draft or free agency.

"There’s always competition, and I think you can ask Nick that too," Kelly said. "I don’t think Nick’s gonna think that 'I can go out and throw 12 interceptions in a row,' which he’ll never do. But in that, 'I’m your guy.' I think everybody feeds off that and they understand that. And then if you also have a guy that’s not competing to be the starter with Nick, then what if Nick gets hurt and all of a sudden the other guy goes, 'Oh my God, I’m not ready to play because I thought Nick was gonna be the guy.' It’s a cliche, but you are a chinstrap away from playing in this league, and when your opportunity comes, you have to take advantage of that.

"But one of the things we do here is we compete and we have a bunch of guys that compete. Obviously you’ve gotta have one guy. Right now Nick’s that one guy. But I don’t think Nick’s ever been afraid of competition. He showed that to me the first time we had that. So we’re always gonna continue to upgrade at every position. And I think all of our players know that. And I think the guys that are true competitors really embrace that."

Kelly's bottom line has always been consistent: The team is going to acquire as many talented pieces as possible and let them compete.

The best guys will play, and based on how he performed in 2013, that will be Foles.

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  • anon

    Did you guys take anything away from his “collaboration” talk about getting new players in here? Do you have a sense of who controls the draft / FA? I feel like that’s something that’s hotly debated.

    On Foles for Chip to say anything else would be uncivilized.

    • mksp

      Chip: “Howie I need an OLB who is 6’5″+, 260+, w/ minimum 33-inch arms w/ a minimum 4.65 40 and a max 7-sec 3-cone drill and 4.5-sec shuttle. He needs to be smart, high-energy and relentless. Plus some other things”

      Howie: “OK Chip”

      • anon

        haha yeah that seems about right.

    • Adam

      Chip has final say on the 53 man roster. He is one of 4 coaches with final say in the NFL, including Belichick, Tomlin, Carroll, and (formerly) Shanahan.

      Chip tells Howie what he wants, Howie brings them in, and Chip makes the calls. I’d imagine the draft would be a colab, but Chip makes the pick.

      • cliff henny

        lovie got it in tampa too

      • morgan c

        Whoa, can you verify this? Where are you getting this from? I have read nothing of the sort, and in fact, am very surprised CK (as much as I love him), would have been given full personnel decision making power as a rookie head coach coming from college. Wasn’t one of the reasons we got rid of Reid was so Howie would be the unquestioned personnel guy? What happened to Lurie saying “Howie is in charge to ‘streamline’ the process”?!

        As I understand it, Howie makes the personnel decisions, possibly in conjunction with CK. But it seems crazy to me that CK has the same power as Belichick??

      • Maggie

        Missed a step. Howie tells Gamble who makes evaluations and suggestions.

        • theycallmerob

          proof? or conjecture?

    • Brandon

      I’m not sure about the FA process but Howie said on WIP a while back that they use a funnel approach for the draft. If I remember correctly, Howie said that he funnels a short list of players from which Chip then selects from during the draft.

  • Will

    Kwel…(Cool)…knew I liked this Kelly Guy, it is gotta mean a lot to a QB when your Coach gets behind you publicly…

  • nicksaenz1

    This was a no-brainer. He plays well in 2014 and he’s going to get paid.

    • cliff henny

      see what kaep gets this off-season, should give us some idea.

      • nicksaenz1

        Good point. Both got starting job in their second year so it’s a great comparison from that standpoint. Kaep has more on the resume from a post-season perspective, but has also had the benefit of a top 5 D.

        EDIT: I think Kaep gets somewhere in the 15-17 range. And no, I have no basis for those numbers. Just what my gut tells me.

        • cliff henny

          both under new cba, not like staffords. think 15m is a good number. i’d lock that up for 5 or 6 yrs too. have to consider 9ers could let him play out 4th yr for 700k, twice franchise him and that would be alot less than 3yr 50m, probably 3yrs 35m, all while playing with no security.

          • nicksaenz1

            I mean, it’s obvious Howie isn’t going to give a deal that handicaps the team, and quite honestly, I can see Foles and his representation being reasonable in their requests because of the nature of Foles. He won’t Flacco/Romo his team’s cap. I can see something like 6-7 years 80-100mil, 35 guaranteed with some restructuring/option-like years after 3-4 years. Obviously, this is all assuming another good year out of the kid. But I think he’s such a team guy and understands that keeping talent around him makes the team better. I could be wrong, but I see him as that type to take enough to be set, but not enough to break the team’s cap.

          • aub32

            No way they do that or would he play for that. First off, franchising a QB kills your cap. Second that’s exactly why players hold out.

          • cliff henny

            negotiating power. nfl teams have some leverage. unlike cutler and romo, those teams had nothing. certainly wouldnt be optimal, but neither is qb playing for 700k in 4th yr.

        • aub32

          Kaep gets a minimum of 18. Did you see the money Jay Cutler and Romo got? How about Stafford. Kaep might go to the SB twice in 2 years. The kid is getting at least 55 million guaranteed.

          • nicksaenz1

            I think you’re right but if he plays out the last year of his rookie deal and 9ers are trying to sign him before FA opens. He’d be foregoing the last year of 900k(ish) to get the money now, meaning he’d be taking a little less. Now, he could pull a Flacco and play that last year and kill it, go on a historic playoff run and win the SB and cash in, but it’s unlikely. Also, he’s not the pure passer that any of those guys are.

          • aub32

            If he holds out, which I don’t know a player who wouldn’t, I don’t see how his agent would even let him sign a contract under 55 million guaranteed. He’s had more success in the past two years than anyone. I can see your point about the 49ers maybe getting a discount, like when the Pack preemptively signed Rodgers. However, I can’t see a smart guy like Kaep, who has already miseed out on millions due to the new CBA, takes anything less than his market value.

          • nicksaenz1

            I could be wrong, but this isn’t the same kind of holdout like Revis who was by far the best at the position at the time, or even like Byrd, who could still be tagged. The 9ers can let him holdout and he has to show up before his accrued time is affected and he doesn’t get the year of service and then could be forced to play the following year under the rookie deal. Think it’s what VJax went through. That’s why the 9ers get the slight discount by extending him this year. Win win for everyone, again, unless he risks it like Flacco.

  • PaoliBulldog

    Well, of course Foles is the 2014 starter, and Vick wants a starting gig (which means going to Oakland, Cleveland, Minnesota, Cincinnati or Jacksonville). But I’d love to see him return to Philadelphia as a backup.

  • gary

    First time post for me Sheil, great journalism on your part, been following you for a while. Readers should ask the question about what they want in a QB. How about 6’6” at 240 lbs an nfl caliber arm, extremely accurate, less than outstanding foot speed (I.E.) Peyton, Brady, Ben, etc. What would he be with megatron or AJ Green or maybe a Graham. Readers what would you give for a guy like that in the draft. Well we already have him. I like the future ( and 24 yrs old)

    • GEAGLE

      It’s reLly really disturbing that a post like that gets down voted…I didn’t think we had 13year olds who comment here

      • Callitlikeiseeit

        You only seem to care about downvotes when you don’t agree with them. Good on you.

  • Andy

    Matt Barkley is definitely more of a QB in the mold of Nick Foles in that he isn’t as much of a running QB, so as a back-up the offense would generally look pretty much the same if he had to come in.

    • cliff henny

      except for the interception part.

      • nicksaenz1

        Mark Barkley single-handedly ruined our turnover margin.

        • cliff henny

          where’s dutch?! he must be dying a little inside. and how many did barkley throw to cowboys, 3?

          • nicksaenz1

            Yeah, and one more and two fumbles against the Giants. Foles didn’t do that in the 10 or 11 games he saw this year. Hell, Barkley had 75% of the turnovers in six quarters this year that Foles had in 7 games last year.

          • GEAGLE

            Where’s Dutch? Locked up in my basement…I made him my “gimp”

          • cliff henny

            Eeny, meeny, mina, mo,
            Catch a dutcher by the toe,
            If he hollers, let him go,
            Eena meena, mina, mo.

          • GEAGLE

            I make him call me “Zeb”

        • aub32

          Got to it before I could.

        • theycallmerob

          Eh, hardest thing to remember as a rook is which color jersey to throw too. He’ll come around :)

      • Kev_H

        Foles threw 3 picks in his first NFL start. It takes some reps until these guys get a feel for what they can and cannot do.

        • cliff henny

          true…not sure you were here in spring when had a poster just knee-capping foles every chance he got, and absolutely drooled over barkley. so, little fun to take shots at MB, though i thought he he showed alot, despite ints. he gets that shoulder healed up, foles will have someone to push him just fine.

    • Token

      I agree with this. Not so much the keep Barkley part, but get a backup more in the mold of Foles. A passer. I dont want my 1st and second team offense looking completely different. If Foles goes down I want as much continuity as possible.

  • Uncle Wonder

    This isnt news, why would he not be? I love what the kid did last year but after seeing Kaep win the game yesterday by making huge plays with his legs, my mind cant help but wonder what this offense could be with someone who could get out of the pocket and pick up tough yards instead of taking 10 second sacks lol. I bet Chip’s mind wonders too. Not advocating for Vick at all and i know guys like Kaep are special talents and dont grow on trees. Long story short, Foles earned his chance to show us all what he can do in year #2.

    • Kev_H

      I watched Kaepernick stare down every receiver he threw to. That definitely limits an offense more than the ability to scamper around and “avoid” sacks. Please note that Kaepernick gets sacked as much or more than Foles as it is (Foles sacked 28 times in 317 attempts, Kaepernick 39 times in 416 attempts). Foles is going to be making noise in the NFL long after Kaepernick is out of the league.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Not sure i agree with your conclusion but i guess we will see. Not all sacks are created equal though. Im glad that Foles stopped throwing those awful desperation jumpballs to avoid sacks but I also noticed he at times has trouble pulling the trigger when going through his progressions. Cooper has become his security blanket i guess because of his size and for some reason he refuses to throw any 50/50 balls to DeSean. That definitely hurt us early in the gm Sat night. We will see how the kid fares now that teams will have a full body of work to use for gameplanning. Hopefully he avoids the dreaded sophomore slump.

        • Kev_H

          When Foles holds it, he’s waiting for guys to work open. Cooper and Avant are good at that. Jackson stops and rarely comes back to the QB. I like how Foles does it. It’s similar to Rodgers.

    • Broadcasting Wisdom

      Did your mind also wander about Kaep throwing a pick right into GB’s arms on the last drive? Fortunately for Kaep and his ESPN reputation the guy dropped it, but that would have been a pick 6, ball game. Kaep can’t make nearly as many plays from the pocket as Foles can, and his ability to run does not outweigh this inability to make quick decisions and throw accurately.

      Of course, either Cam Newton or Kaep have to win next week, so now we get another debate about the success of running QBs – when both QBs are just being carried by their defenses and running games.

      • aub32

        I think you misphrased your sentence. Don’t worry I’ll help. I think you meant to say Cam carries the running game, not that he’s carried by it. Funny how you bring up Kaep’s near pick but ignored Foles. Also, did you see the game yesterday? It was one of the coldest games in recent history, and Kaep still passed for 227 yards. I guess That’s not as good as Foles’ 195, most of which came after a key injury to the Saints secondary. Kaep and Nwton didn’t make it as far as they did this season without being able to throw from the pocket. Yes they used their legs when necessary. Are they not supposed to? Should they instead take sacks that knock the team out of field goal range? See how easy it is to nitpick and tear down one QB for the sake of another.

        • Token

          I dunno. I just have to assume you dont see much of the guy. Harbaugh wants him to be a pocket QB. Hes just not very good at this point.

          I get it, hes got a big arm and fast legs, exciting.

          Im so far over that type of QB. Been there, multiple times, over it….completely.

          • Uncle Wonder

            I think saying Kaep is ‘not very good’ is a little hyperbole. He has a top 10 rating. Sure he could do some things better but he is a talent. Foles has things to work on too but I think they both are quality young players…I wasnt even trying to make this a Kaep/Foles debate lol. Look at Rodgers, he didnt have a good game throwing the ball either but was able to pick up key yards w his legs. I was just speaking about mobility in general…running travels well…so when January rolls around and there are subzero temps, running wins where passing fails. We will see how Foles does in year 2 now that teams have game tape. Im not saying he isnt good and he absolutely earned everything he has right now…but this is the NFL, not Tecmo Bowl. No guarantee he will be as successful in 2014.

          • GEAGLE

            What does it mean to have game tape on a traditional pocket passer?

          • Uncle Wonder

            same thing as it does for anyone else

          • GEAGLE

            You don’t need tape on guys like Brady and FOles…you need tape of their offense, because they will sit in the pocket all day, make all the correct decisions to run the offense the way it’s designed to run…

            You can study what routes he is most successful with…but when QBs really know the nuances of the game, manipulate defenses with eyes and fakes, becomes kind of difficult to study…

          • Uncle Wonder

            idt that is true at all…why do analysts like Rodney Harrison always say that if you can hit Peyton Manning, you can rattle him? why do analysts look at stats on completion % against the blitz? % in and out of the pocket? rolling to right/left? accuracy on deep throws vs short? everyone has tendencies and teams gameplan around them

          • GEAGLE

            In fairness, hitting a QB is ALWAYS the grand equalizer when facing ELITE QBs, especially pressure up the middle…Peyton,Brady,Brees,Rogers…hit any of them hard and often and they will turn into Geno Smith

          • Uncle Wonder

            well sure, but how do you hit them? what can you do to keep them from getting the ball out when they want? the answer isnt the same for all. the blitz makes some freeze, others will eat the blitz alive…comes down to tendencies and idiosyncrasies of the player

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t buy it…you are over simplifying things…analyst look at blitz completion and stats like that because their job is to try and predict how the game will unfold…

            Brady can be as great as he wants against the Blitz, but if his a guys cant get off the line, or get free from man coverage, he can’t get the ball out, which means he most likely will get hit…
            ..
            All that blitz stats..really just comes down to:
            Can you diagnose and see what the defense is trying to accomplish on a given play?
            And then
            Within the frame of the offense, do you know where to go with the ball or what checks to make so that you can beat what the defense is doing..

            Greatness requires 3 things:
            1) presnap recognition
            ..
            2) knowing your offense inside out so you can take advantage of what the defense is giving you, every scheme gives you something if you know how to use your offense to attack it..decision making

            3) The Moxy and accuracy to deliver the ball where it needs to under pressure

          • Uncle Wonder

            you have summed up NFL greatness in 3 bullet points and im the one over simplifying things? Stop sayin this ‘all it comes down to’ lol, i was trying to give simple examples to illustrate my point…most analysts are ex players and coaches…those stats arent kept for the benefit of spewing off facts on a broadcast or website…those are the stats billy davis and chip look at every week to create a game plan…everyone has a scouting report…if your 3 steps are true any Tom, Dick, and Harry with a Harvard engineering degree would in the HOF and resistance would be futile…but your Brady example makes it seem like you think its the receivers who make a QB great…are foles receivers good enough to make him great?

          • Andy124

            I’ve never heard a DC say, we have to keep the opposing QB upright. He’s much worse with a clean pocket and no pressure. :)

          • anon

            Haha that’s probably what the Chargers DC said.

          • southy

            the only QB I’ve watched that seems to play well if you hit him all game is Eli. leave him alone and he will throw your team the ball.

          • anon

            Can we wait until their second season until we anoint Foles the chosen one. I’m not saying he’s not but lots of QBs go through sophmore slumps as Ds get better at understanding them and their schemes. I think as Ds take away the underneath stuff Foles will have to beat them with solid passing in tight windows…then we can anoint them the next [enter your fav qb here].

          • GEAGLE

            First of all for the sake of this convo, we are comparing QBs stylistically, and Brady!And Peyton, stylistically Is the measuring stick for where we hope FOles develops..
            ..
            DCs can watch all the tape of Nick this year that they want, because very intelligent competitors, who work hard, will be two steps ahead next year, of what his tape from this year will show….this is NO fluke, the kid isn’t even close to being done improving…so issues DC’s see in his tape from this year, very well may disappear by the beginning of next season

        • Broadcasting Wisdom

          Kaep and Cam are two freaks athletic specimens who also are acquiring some modicum of passing skills. If they couldn’t run, make no mistake, they would be 3rd string QBs in the NFL.

          Trust me, I would LOVE for Foles to be able to run a 4.5 40. But I would not trade his decision making, processing ability, and accuracy for a few highlight reel runs. I’ve been a Birds fan since Cunningham took over for Jaws, and after three decades of running qb’s, I can promise you: it just doesn’t work consistently.

          I know it’s so attractive to see a fast QB and think “Man, if we could just teach him to throw and process information quickly, the sky is the limit!” It’d be easier to teach Foles how to run a 4.5 40 than to teach these guys quick learning ability.

          The offense of San Fran was 24th and Carolina was 26th in yards, and 11th and 18th in points. Philly was 2nd and 4th, and if you take away the Vick/Barkley games we were even better.

          Regardless, as stated above, either Kaep or Newton will be playing for the right to go to the Super Bowl. They’ll probably win 17-13 behind elite defenses, and then we can hear about how Kaep is better than Brees. Can’t wait.

          • GEAGLE

            kAp also had BOldin who is a better Riley Cooper! and Vernon Davis who plays at a higher level then our TEs this year..as good of an Oline as us, and plays behind a good run game…yet he can’t process and make the right decisions like FOles…for this kid to have this kind of grip on an offense he hasn’t even known for a year is ridiculously special….

            I don’t think Fans get what it means to throw for over 60% completions, his first TWO years in the NFL, playing in TWO completely different offenses and coaches that he had less then a years experience with, ESPECIALLY since he didint get the first team reps all year that all the other young starting QBs got…and to throw for over 60% as a rookie in last years mess with Dunlap and bell blocking for him is ridiculously impressive….unfortunately writers and analyst polluted the fanbase against FOles, thus the questions will never stop…

            They tried to make kAp more of a pocket passer this year and they really struggled…once they abandoned that, and let him run wild again with the read option, he started to have a good year again

          • anon

            Well i’d argue that Brees won behind the D. Actually most SBs are won behind Ds — i think that’s been forgotten in Philly.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup…in the playoffs, the majority of the time the balance of the game hangs on the last drive…Ravens didn’t have a top rated defense, but if they didn’t stop the Niners offense on the last possession they wouldn’t have a Super Bowl ring…

            It’s kind of hard to count on always having the ball at the end of the game, and odds are if you want to win a Super Bowl, their will come a time in the playoffs were your defense has to hold the fort down and win the game because your opponent has the ball last….our ST and defense came up short..

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            “Kaep and Cam are two freaks athletic specimens who also are acquiring some modicum of passing skills. If they couldn’t run, make no mistake, they would be 3rd string QBs in the NFL.”

            You do realize that Cam holds PASSING records right? Passing…not just rushing. He has those too…your comment is BEYOND ridiculous. You don’t pass for 400 yards your first two games in the league and have a “modicum” of passing skills.

            Ridiculous.

          • Broadcasting Wisdom

            Didn’t Kevin Kolb do that too? Incidentally, you do know he lost those two games, right? Because he threw 4 picks? It’s easy to compile passing yards when you’re 3 TDs behind and the other team is playing prevent.

          • truth be told

            Beyond ridiculous. There is obviously no objectivity when the topic of other young QB’s come up.

            Kaep and Cam are garbage and only running qb’s.lol

      • Uncle Wonder

        I was speaking specifically about in Chip’s offense. Not trynna get into a philosophocal debate over what skillset will win in the league…the fact is Foles has lead feet…which is fine for what he does but if he were a little more nimble maybe he could have pulled it down and made more happen when the coverage got tight…just saying. Maybe the defense wouldnt be able to crash on Shady every time there is a read to be made…Just saying

        • theycallmerob

          If only Steve Youngs grew on trees…..

          • Mike Calabrese

            Exactly!! How many guys like that exist? Rodgers, Elway, etc..look at those names. There are few and far between folks. Every team in league wants one of those. Simply put there not enough to go around. Also guarantee about 12-15 teams minimum would beg to have Foles situation. You know a guy in his 2nd year less than 16 starts with his production and upside.

            If anyone wants to claim that Chip’s offense needs a running QB to work then what the heck do you guys call this year? Come on we were a top 5 offense with Foles. We had no problem moving the ball up and down field with Foles. As Chip said when got here most important attributes as a QB in his system are repetitive accuracy and taking care of football. I would say Foles has proven he matches that criteria well and in turn those features have put together a very successful exciting offense. If your not happy with what you saw from offense with Foles then honestly your missing the fun. One of top offenses in league and won most games with him starting.

        • Token

          We have had mobile QBs here for decades. Are you not over it? Have you not learned anything from it?

          • Uncle Wonder

            youre right…not over anything but losing…which has been what has happened most of my life. Foles deserves to be the starter. Just dreaming of Chip’s O with that added element.

          • The Godfather of Soul

            Well you’ll never see it unfortunately. Instead we have to settle for Nick “Cement Feet” Foles.

          • Token

            Just watch Oregon tape. Then picture NFL players punishing the QB and the QB getting injured in no time. Or watch the losing Eagles when Vick was in there. Or watch Mariota against a physical team like Stanford where the run was taken away from him and he struggled. No, im over that mess. I want a guy who can pass and read a defense. You will rarely, if ever, get all of it in one package.

          • Uncle Wonder

            It seems like youre associating mobility with being a world class sprinting athlete. Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, John Elway, Steve Young, Romo, Favre, Alex Smith, Big Ben, and Cam Newton probably wont win many foot races but they all use their legs to make plays.

          • Andy124

            Young and Newton wereare very fast.

        • #7

          That argument doesn’t fly here lol.

      • #7

        It was -10 degrees in GB man lol. Also, if a QB can run and it’s open for a 1st down, he SHOULD NOT run?

        • GEAGLE

          When I see a QB run his way to a SB, then I might give a flying F..
          ..
          Running bails these guys out which hinders them from improving their QB skills, thus we don’t see these running QBs succeed at the top level. I actually love that FOles is 6’6 and slow…he is forced to develop into a smart guy who will diagnose a defense, manipulate it presnap and then know how to dissect it with his arm….this kid is going to be so damn good, a lot of people are going to look really stupid

          • anon

            You love wilson, but running is a HUGE part of his game. I don’t think it’s stunted his growth as a qb, i don’t think it’s stunted Kaps growth either. Does having a run first team stunt a QBs growth if they are tossing 40 passes a game?

            Not every player will have pinpoint accuracy why hate on one for using other skills ets. Big Bin’s biggest asset is his-scramble ability, did that diminish his quality as a QB?

          • GEAGLE

            Wilson is more the Mcnabb mode who runs around to buy time to throw it…he will be better then Mcnabb because Wilson won’t be so insecure that he will refuse to take the big free run when it’s their just to prove a silly racial stereotype wrong…As a passer, I think Wilson is way ahead of where KAp is right now…

            Whoa, Big Ben uses his scrambling to buy time to throw accurate lasers!!! I actually see FOles developing into the Big Ben type

            I’m not hating…I just think you can only go so far without developing your accuracy! When I see a guy who isn’t accurate running his way to a Lombardi trophy, then I will revisit my views

          • anon

            He runs the Zone read multiple times a game.

          • GEAGLE

            Yes but the zone read is the designed run game..Nick FOles runs the zone read…I’m talking about guys like kAp and RGme who take off before going thru their progressions…Wilson doesnt play that way, he is developing into a helluva passer who goes thru all his reads and finds a guy, or runs around to buy time til a WR can get open and deliver a strike…..If kAp is running, he is taking off! not running around his pocket looking down field…
            ..
            We can agree to disagree, i just Genuinly don’t believe you can win a Super Bowl without advanced pocket passing game…if you can run on top of that, then you become Elway,Rogers, Steve young type…I view Wilson as Steve young..kAp is just a more developed Vick if you ask me….Heck, before we had FOles I would have given my leg for kAp, but I will always want the more advanced passer

          • southy

            All this criticism of Kaep and ” i just Genuinly don’t believe you can win a Super Bowl without advanced pocket passing game”…

            You do realize he was a questionable PI call away from wearing a ring?

          • #7

            I disagree. You have to do what it takes to win. If that means run, then run it

      • GEAGLE

        KAp is fun and exciting until the day he gets caught and his block KNOCKED OFF and they lose him for 10 games in a year they expected to be contenders….FYI, FOles play wiped the floor with kapernick this season……ATleast Cam is big and strong…someone is going to hurt kAp one of Therese years
        ..
        Good post mate

      • truth be told

        We’ve seen every QB have near picks. What’s your point?

        i like Foles as much as the next guy but it’s like he can’t be criticized anymore. Kaep took his team to the Superbowl last year and might do it again this year. Doesn’t that mean something just as a football fan alone (we all love the Eagles but take out the bias)?

    • Maggie

      Personally, I thought the swarming San Francisco D Line had something to do with Green Bay losing, rather than any 1 SF player winning.

  • GEAGLE

    What a dumb,question…we have a inexperienced kid who put up the best numbers any young QB with his level of experience ever has had…we have a smart, humble. Hardworking kid who friggin studies Tom Brady, and we are still talking about this crap? I friggin hate sharing this team with this stupid ignorant city

    • aub32

      But he did struggle in his last two games, which were both playoff games (I kid…I kid) He should defiinitely be the starter.

      • Magicmikec

        Didn’t he have 100+ QB rating in both games?

        • aub32

          Did you see the part where I said I was kidding?

      • #7

        I see you cleaned that up quickly lol. You’ll get stabbed with a pitchfork on here if you say anything (even if it’s true) negative about Foles.

        The kid had a good season. Kudos to young Foles

      • GEAGLE

        Struggle? I know you are kidding, but let’s explore this a bit deeper…

        What player with only 16 games under his belt had a better playoff debut then FOles? 200 plus yards, two TDs NO INTs, 100 QBR, came back to give his team the lead with 5 min left and never got back on the field? Kapernick, Brady…who else played better in his first playoff game EVER having so little experience?

        • anon

          Wilson? Luck? I’d take picks if they came with a win, i’m sure KC would too.

          • GEAGLE

            Luck won his first playoff game last year?
            ..
            Wilson I respect so much so you won’t get me to bash him! but his mega defense and BEASTMODE is what young QBs that have traditionally succeeded needed to have..

            If FOles had the defense, that could make the crucial playoff stop, we would be getting ready for Carolina and FOles would be the talk of the world for bringing them back down 13 and NOT throwing a single INT in a playoff game, beating the hall of famer Brees…in fairness to our defense, ST put them in. Bad position

          • anon

            I don’t know if you’d love the list of people that won their first playoff game. The list would include Wilson, Kap, Tebow, Sanchez, Flacco and Big Ben. I’m sure there are more but that’s off the top.

          • GEAGLE

            Not just win the first playoff game, but do it with 100QBR…
            ..
            Saints defense played much better then I thought. Their play deserved it’s top 5 ranking…they friggin shutdown shady…

          • anon

            As mentioned above i want Ws, i really don’t care about QBR unless it comes with Ws.

            RGIII had a 73 QBR last year (behind the usual suspects) and was terrible this year. Peyton has the highest QBR generally every year and often loses in the playoffs. I’m fine with Foles this year, played within the scheme, he was a rook so expected the L but like to see him take more chances next year and work on his 40 time.

          • GEAGLE

            Unless you have a damn good run game that is working, and a stout defense, you can’t overcome bad QBR, so you better care about…

            Sure Sanchez was winning with a crappy QBR when they had a great Oline with a powerful run game, and stout defense only asking Sanchez to throw 20 times a game, but when that run game got old, and the defense fell off, you can bet the Jets win they would have cared more about his QBR, instead of being stuck paying big money to a tomato can

          • GEAGLE

            Lose the turnover margin and history says you have an 82% chance of LOsing in the playoffs, this weekend was a serious Anomoly. And if we are being honest, both Reid and Chip got out coached…I understand a college coach in his first playoff getting out coached by Peyton…but for Reid to look like a fool against Pagano…embarressing

          • anon

            We have a really young team all around so hard to criticize the playoff loss to seasoned veterans. But think your statement is correct.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I’m not mad at all about the loss…just keeping it real

        • aub32

          Kaepernick had less pro experience last year and took his team to the SB. And before you say it, those wins weren’t on the defense. He single handedly embarassed the Pack, and mounted a beautiful comeback against the Falcons. I get your point on Foles. I’m just answering the question.

    • Maggie

      It’s not your team to share. Your name is not Lurie.

      • GEAGLE

        Don’t you get the hint that I don’t engage in real convos with you? And I live in Philly and hAve been a season ticket holder forever, so until this team remains here, yes it’s part MINE, like a minority shareholder who has no say, and instead of getting money, I pay money

    • joethomas215

      It’s the city’s team. People have had their hearts broken before, they just are hesitant to go all in yet.

  • GEAGLE

    Now Nick is really starting to take ownership of this team as a leader and it’s awesome to see

  • Kev_H

    I always felt that Kelly did “handpick” Foles. Kelly is no fool and knows that a) you need to succeed quick to make it in today’s NFL and b) you need a high quality QB to succeed. He wouldn’t have taken the job if he didn’t believe in Foles. What amazes me is that articles like this get written. Foles seems to 100% fit the mold for everything Kelly has ever said about what he looks for in a QB. When will writers stop taking everything Kelly says with a grain of salt? He seems like a straightforward, no-nonsense guy to me.

    • cliff henny

      never! fact is, about 99% of what they ask is a simple google search. kelly has to be about the most open and honest coach, certainly was at oregon. and why not, no one believes anything he says. actually a little funny. guess that’s why he f’s with the media. he answers them honestly, they ask a backup question basically calling him a liar, and he just stands there dumbfounded with his tongue out thinking ‘hey, i just told you the answer and you didnt like it 5 seconds ago, or a week or 3 weeks ago’.

  • theycallmerob

    Best investigative work yet, Sheil

    • GEAGLE

      Aft one find out why shady refused to speak today?
      ..
      Cool that our players were all getting Vicks autograph today in case he isn’t back

  • Wayne Charles

    I know Nicks Jersey is in Canton but not his bust! I heard one commentator on WIP say “he’s better than McNabb”. You people are tripping if you think he’s the one that will take us to the Super Bowl. He doesn’t throw picks because he’s taking untimely sacks and intentional grounding penalties. He also locks onto receivers. Im not sold and we should pray that M.Vick stays on as a back up. Nick scares me even with the big numbers.