What They’re Saying About the Eagles

Here’s what the national media are saying about Nick Foles and the Eagles this week.

In a National Football Post article, Jason Cole says Foles’ performance is the result of rule changes that help offenses:

While Manning’s achievement didn’t raise eyebrows, Foles’ record effort should. That’s because not only did Foles do it, he did it in only three quarters. By the fourth quarter, Foles was out of the game in favor of backup quarterback Matt Barkley and after Foles had run up 406 yards on 22 of 28 pass attempts. By the end of the third quarter, wide receiver Riley Cooper had already set career highs with 139 yards and three scores.

Perhaps just as stunning is that Eagles coach Chip Kelly actually backed off, but that’s a story for another time.

Gregg Easterbrook of ESPN.com thinks Kelly got “snookered’ by Bill Belichick in the Isaac Sopoaga trade:

Why the Eagles, ranked last in defense, should be trading a defensive starter for next to nothing is anyone’s guess. Looks like neophyte Kelly got snookered by veteran Belichick. The trade may become another knock against the former Oregon coach. First Kelly’s offense show signs of being a flash in the pan, then Kelly can’t make up his mind about quarterbacks, next he’s fleeced in a trade. Maybe Kelly can get Nicholls State, Oregon’s 2013 opening opponent, on the Eagles’ schedule for next year. And don’t we wish Nicholls State played Nichols College.


Considering the Nesharim had laid eggs in their previous two games, it was defensible for Kelly to keep the pedal down in the second half of Philadelphia's destruction of Oakland. But one wonders -- was Kelly trying to get his team to believe its season can be saved, or does he think there are style points in the NFL?

Editor's Note:As far as I can tell, the above two paragraphs were written in a serious tone. This was not a satirical piece.

LeSean McCoy and Evan Mathis make Greg A. Bedard's midseason All-Pro list on TheMMQB.com:

McCoy leads the league with 777 rushing yards, and he’s fumbled just once. It won’t be long before critics knock McCoy as a “system back,” but Shady is just tremendous, especially in space. The only question is if he can last the season as the workhorse.

Mathis is simply the best guard in the game, and it’s not even really close. Just a phenomenal athlete and top-notch technician.

ESPN.com moves the Eagles up to No. 20 in its power rankings:

Chip Kelly says the Eagles' starting quarterback is still based on health. Maybe an eighth touchdown pass would have clinched the starting job for Nick Foles.

Peter King of TheMMQB.com weighs in on the Eagles' QB situation:

As for the Eagles’ quarterback-of-the-future thing, that’s for another day. Kelly’s not showing his hand now, and Sunday certainly wasn’t enough to make Kelly, owner Jeff Lurie or GM Howie Roseman think Foles is the next Ron Jaworski. But I’ve maintained all along that Kelly doesn’t need a quick-twitch quarterback with Mike Vick’s running ability to be a good quarterback in this system. It’d be nice to have great athleticism, sure. But the most important thing is a quick-twitch brain, with fast decision-making ability and efficiency. Foles is completing 63 percent, which is good, not great. He has 13 touchdowns and no interceptions, which is very good, of course. His 8.7 yards-per-attempt is good, and his 127.4 rating ridiculously high.

Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report says Foles' record is garbage:

There will be a lot of analysis about what Nick Foles did on Sunday involving plenty of data and declarations. Some will say it's a validation of Chip Kelly's offense. Others will say Foles is the next great quarterback in the sport.

The truth is, all of that is garbage.

In tying the NFL record for touchdowns in a game with seven, what Foles did was take advantage of today's NFL. That isn't hard. You know why it isn't hard? Because Nick freakin' Foles did it.

KC Joyner of ESPN.com considers Foles a one-hit wonder:

First, the Raiders contest had more to do with Oakland's defenders looking like a bad slapstick comedy troupe than it did Philadelphia's offense hitting on all cylinders. Two of the touchdown passes occurred on plays in which the cornerback fell down and two others were the direct result of a blown coverage. Those types of errors happen from time to time in the NFL, but they don't happen on anywhere close to a regular basis and therefore aren't likely to recur down the road.

Doug Farrar of SI.com recognizes Fletcher Cox for his second-year performance:

We’re cheating a bit with Cox, who’s played inside and outside and is currently an end in Billy Davis’ 3-4 defense, but he’s got three sacks, seven QB hits and 30 hurries from that position. He also amassed four sacks as a tackle in whatever the heck the Eagles were doing on defense in 2012.

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles 21st in his power rankings:

While we were typing the Eagles blurb, Nick Foles threw his 23rd touchdown pass against the Raiders. As you know, the league reviews all scoring plays, so we're going to move on to the Bills section in the meantime.

Brian Billick of FoxSports.com has the Eagles 19th:

The Eagles averaged just five points per game over the previous two weeks but exploded for 49 points after running just 45 plays against the Raiders on Sunday. That's efficient.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com has the Eagles 21st:

Nick Foles. Nick Foles. Nick Foles. How do you contain him?

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has the Eagles 19th:

Owner Jeffrey Lurie says he’s looking for a franchise quarterback. Based on Sunday, he may have found one.

Football Outsiders ranked Foles' performance No. 1 among QBs in Week 9:

Ignoring pass interference calls, the average quarterback this season is completing 39 percent of his Deep passes (those that travel at least 16 yards past the line of scrimmage) for 11.2 yards per throw. Foles completed 7-of-9 deep balls against Oakland for 241 yards and three touchdowns. He threw one other pass that went exactly 15 yards downfield. It was caught in the end zone for another touchdown.

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  • BleedGreenJames

    How the hell does Gregg Easterbrook tie his shoes everyday?

    • Andy124

      Velcro

    • Bob A

      He thinks people will be impressed by words like ‘Nesharim’, so they won’t notice that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    • knighn

      I have come up with a new game for when I read the weekly “What They’re Saying About the Eagles.” I will take the most wildly uniformed article and name my next dump after that writer. Gregg Easterbrook wins this week. Though I might also have to take a “Mike Freeman” later this week.

    • KobraKai7474

      There is a 100% chance he wrote most of that before the game and didn’t want to waste it so he punched it up a bit to acknowledge the reality of the game. Easterbrook writes one of the most consistently interesting football columns out there so that Eagles blurb was really out of character for him. I am curious to see if/when he is willing to acknowledge some (well all) of that commentary was BS.

    • Snakers

      I’ve been reading Easterbrook’s TMQ for a few years and I’ve never read a piece by him on the Eagles (Nesharim) that’s been more off base. Every one of his points is invalid, except, maybe the one about Kelly mishandling the QB situation. Even this isn’t clear cut. For a guy who’s brand is about nuanced opinion he sure displays a lack of knowledge on the Eagles and Coach Kelly here.
      He gets a pass on this one from me though. Mostly based on his past work and the reoccurring segment he ran a few years ago about Veteran’s Stadium anecdotes.

    • kleptolia

      He doesn’t wear shoes. They make it impossible for him to put on his pants.

  • E. Mathis

    1. Easterbrook … hahaha. Never watched Sopoaga play apparently.
    2. Mathis has really emerged and it’s nice to see him get some national kudos. Ever since Week 1 last season I’ve been impressed with him. There was a play in the first quarter of the game against Cleveland (I wish I could find the clip) in which Vick scrambled and Mathis was five yards ahead clearing the path. To see a guard that far down the field and sprinting stride-for-stride with Vick was crazy.

    • nicksaenz1

      Nice way to compliment yourself in #2. I’m sure you can find the game tape from Cleveland to show us your awesomeness, though.

      • Richard Colton

        that actually might be Evan Mathis – he’s addicted to social media/internet.

        • Chris

          We can only hope….

        • nicksaenz1

          I was hoping it was. How funny would it be if he were on here shittin’ on Soap after the trade?

    • Will

      Tried to find video of it …..I know the value of Mathis in his play and durability…

    • theycallmerob

      ….I heard Lane Johnson is faster, stronger, and better looking than you. comment?

    • Jamie Parker

      I disagree. You really emerged in 2011.

  • knighn

    I love the Editor’s note! Well done, Sheil!
    Some of these so-called reporters are hilarious!

  • Adam

    Amazing. KC Joyner: “they don’t happen on anywhere close to a regular basis and therefore aren’t likely to recur down the road.”

    Yeah Joyner, 7 TD game’s don’t happen very often. That’s why no QB in NFL history has multiple 7TD games. Because Foles probably won’t replicate those numbers, the record is bogus? Please.

    • nicksaenz1

      That’s Dutch logic. Said yesterday or two days ago that he wants to see how long until he can do it again. Really? Why don’t we ask the other 6 who did it how long it took them to repeat it?

      • Adam

        I’m not even sure why I read these What They’re Saying articles.

        • nicksaenz1

          Me neither. I say every week that Easterbrook is an idiot. Groundhog’s Day got moved to every Wednesday on 24/7.

        • GEAGLE

          Agreed..the constant worthless drivel just aggrivates me..these articles should come with a spoiler alert under the headline reminding GEAGLE not to read them…

          Half of these dopes should have to forfeit their paycheck for the week

        • Jamie Parker

          Because it’s fun to read what stupid people write.

        • chloroformdreams

          I find them comforting, if I fail at everything else at least I know I can become a sports writer.

      • joethomas215

        Took Manning 15 years to do it once, Foles 2, in 9 starts. I hope he throws for 4 or 5 Sunday, then maybe he’ll get some respect, then again it will be because Rodgers didn’t play that he did it.

        • Will

          Does Aaron Rodgers play Defense?

          • nicksaenz1

            What if someone, just for S&Gs said yes? What would you say?

          • Will

            I hope AAron plays OLB…lol..

          • Andy124

            lol

          • cliff henny

            defense is alot easier to play when a qb can throw up a 35 spot. rodgers makes up for a lot of holes in that team.

          • JB

            Whoosh

        • evanphilly

          If Foles throws for 4 or 5 TDs on Sunday, then the media will continue to invalidate his 7 TD performance. And sopt on about the Rodgers quip…this win won’t count in the eyes of many.

          • GEAGLE

            Screw the OTHERS..DOPES!!! A win Sunday would mean FOles has led us to a 4-1 record in his sophomore season with 6 games of rookie experience, playing FANTASTIC in his first 3 wins..assuming Dallas loses Sunday and FOles carves them up, we would be back to 500, tied for the division going into a BIGTIME home game against the skins…If he beats the packers, and then goes on to snap our home streak and get us back above 500, he will be 5-1 on the season, and we will see how people can continue to deny him

        • Adam

          Would be nice, but you know they’ve got their rhetoric queued up already.

          * Foles is fraud because he couldn’t throw 7 again
          * Foles did well but it wasn’t against an Aaron Rodgers-led Packers
          * Where’s the rushing yards?

          and so on and so on.

          • kstagg

            Rodgers not playing won’t have anything to do with Foles not throwing for some serious yardage/points. It’s how well he does under pressure from their D. Go Nick Go.

          • Adam

            To an extent, but if Rodgers is playing the pressure is higher due to having to keep up with him. If you’re playing a guy like Seneca Wallace it’s a bit different.

    • therevxxx

      You took that quote completely out of context. He was talking about corners falling down & blown coverage, not the 7tds… i really hope you were kidding w/ your comment

      • Adam

        I know what he was talking about. He was downplaying the whole situation because of a few mistakes that the defense made. You don’t pass for 7 TD’s based solely on the fact that your secondary plays bad. If that was the case then last years Eagles secondary would have had 7+ dropped on them week in and week out. While yes, there absolutely was a few occasions where there were slips but the bulk of the performance was because of good play calling and execution. D falling down and blowing coverage isn’t mutually exclusive, and could very well be because they were getting out played and out executed.

        Obviously Foles isn’t likely to do this again. Just like none of the other guys who did it did it again. When Peyton did it, did people spew these same stuff? Did any of his touchdowns come because he noticed and took advantage of a breakdown in coverage? I’m sure they did, but I doubt anyone was saying “Yeah, but he’ll never do it again.”

        • GEAGLE

          Slips and breakdown are likely to occur when you have CBs on their heels because you just hung 4TDs on them in 10 minutes…the tempo, and constant pressure our offense put on them I’m sure made them more susceptible to errors. If a CB is getting embarrassed and is getting lined up at the last second because we are playing at a crazy tempo, it’s not uncommon for them to lose confidence, tighten up and start making errors especially a rookie like Slay..When you suck the confidence out of a CB and combine that with a QB who is absolutely on FIRE, a top defense can look really bad…especially when the CBs defensive line is getting thoroughly dominated…Lamaar Houston practically dominated Roethlisberger by himself the week before..and When an Offensive line is dominating like that, there will always be a CB to exploit..just so happens that for that top defense it was Darius Slay…but it’s not like Charles Woodson didn’t get abused…
          ….
          It’s bad enough FOles was skinning them alive, but the few plays when they managed to play perfect defense, FOles trumped it with perfect throws like the 3rd n 15 to Maehl and and the bomb to DJ Kid with the defender draped over him…that is SOOO damn demoralizing for defenders, and we just kept coming and coming…

          I mean the raiders are far from the worst defense in the NFL, and out of all the great QBs and great offenses we have seen this year…Chip Kelly and Nick FOles went on the he road and put on the best display of offense seen in the NFL so far this year..
          ….
          Thru 8 games, Peyton and Denver weren’t able to have a better performance even when they faced the WORST defense in he the NFL(the jaguars),
          ….
          Brees and the Saints thru 8 games haven’t been able to put on a better performance than than what we just did, heck they struggled mightly against Tampa who FOles shredded.
          ….
          Brady and the bellicek haven’t been able to have a better game then FOles this year..
          ….
          Even the great Aaron Rodgers hasn’t had a performance like that, even when Jones,Cobb,Finley and Nelson were all healthy

          Stafford,calvin and bush haven’t been able to put together a game like that..

          Some GREAT QBs with GREAT offenses this year have played some seriously putrid defenses like the jags, and Giants this year that are drastically inferior to the raiders defense, and not a single one of them were able to have a more impressive offensive showing than our “career back up” Nick FOles, and our college coach, the next Steve spurrier, Chip Kelly..

          Why hasn’t the great Andrew Luck, with all his weapons not even come close to doing what Nick did? he had better pass catching weapons when he faced the jaguars who’s defense is no where near the Raiders league…

          Now none of all that means that Nick is better than any of those guys or even in their class…but all that means that the national dopes have no right to diminish what Chip and Nick were able to accomplish this weekend….That was 3rd round FOles 9th NFL game, and that was College Chips 9 NFL game, and they were able to provide the very best offensive display seen in the 2013 NFL season, and I Doubt anyone will beat that this year…you don’t get to diminish THAT!!! I don’t care who you are, that needs to be RESPECTED!!!

          • Andy124

            Are posting from a phone, ipad or laptop? Cause if all that is coming from a phone… WOW.

            Anyway, I hadn’t noticed the confluence of Chip’s and Nick’s gamesstarts before. I love how that lines up. Let’s keep those numbers equal to each other for the next decade or so…

          • GEAGLE

            iPad…which is a nightmare for my fat broken fingers

          • chloroformdreams

            Must be a phone. I feel bad because he works so hard to type out his usually valid points but because of the length 90% of them will go unread. Cheers GEAGLE, do me a favor and reset your autocorrect or type Foles into your ipad 1,000 times.

  • nicksaenz1

    Easterbrook is trying really hard to become the worst sports writer in history. The guy is a moron, plain and simple. He should go back to his not-clever way of protesting the Redskins name. Douche. Peter King isn’t far behind.

    • cliff henny

      wonder if that’s his gig, just piss off fan bases for hits. it’s not even logical on the sopoaga trade

      • nicksaenz1

        I have no idea what his deal is. I’ve read his TMQ article on espn a couple of times and it’s just a bunch of drivel. Meaningless, sometimes factless/baseless drivel.

    • All Things Bad@ss

      According to Wiki, his childhood hero was Roger Goodell’s father. Says enough for me right there.

  • Will

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/0ap2000000275878/Week-9-Eagles-vs-Raiders-highlights

    Foles Fantastic the 7 TD’s together above- Foles should win the Fed-Ex air award this week….

    In a National Football Post article, Jason Cole says Foles’ performance is the result of rule changes that help offenses:

    While Manning’s achievement didn’t raise eyebrows, Foles’ record effort should. That’s because not only did Foles do it, he did it in only three quarters. By the fourth quarter, Foles was out of the game in favor of backup quarterback Matt Barkley and after Foles had run up 406 yards on 22 of 28 pass attempts. By the end of the third quarter, wide receiver Riley Cooper had already set career highs with 139 yards and three scores.

    Perhaps just as stunning is that Eagles coach Chip Kelly actually backed off, but that’s a story for another time.

  • UncleCarm

    “Blaming” Foles record on a bad defense is ridiculous. Our secondary last year was the worst I’ve ever seen, and no one threw seven touchdown passes on us. What a lazy, knee jerk statement.

    • theedevilsadvocate

      exactly even if oakland d is bad still doesnt change the fact its an nfl defense.

      • GEAGLE

        Oaklands defense is NOT bad!!! That defense entered the game as a top 10 defense, the insane tempo that FOles was able to set is what made them look so BAD…Just go back and count how many times you would see them lined up with 1 CB on the right, with two WR on that at side…T he tempo DESTROYED that team and it led to all sorts. Breakdowns…I. Guess the throw when FOles dropped the bomb in Djax arms with a fender draped over him was a product of bad defense? MY ASS, that was the product of one of the very best throws you will see in the NFL this season….when you deliver balls in stride, throwing wt anticipation so that guys have to speed up to catch it, defenses end up looking bad!

        The accuracy, the improved arm strength, the command for the offense and running the fast tempo flawlessly is what made a good defense, ESPECIALLY at home, look so inept

  • Richard Colton

    Here’s another one that’s interesting debate fodder: should the Eagles pursue Martin?

    http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2013/11/jonathan_martin_eagles.html

    • Andy124

      Waiting for the dust to settle before I have an opinion on that. You convinced me last night that there may be more to the story.

      • Richard Colton

        and for the record, my vote is “No”

        • nicksaenz1

          Didn’t read the article, but why “No”?

        • RIP illa

          Yeah, why no. I get that the kid is softer than charmin, but what could it hurt to have him in here w/ “no pressure to play”. When Peters retires or gets moved, let him come in as the RT and shift Lane over. Wish the FO knew abou this stuff when Watkins was getting cut. Could have been a straight up trade.

          • Richard Colton

            I liked him coming out of Stanford. Big and moved well. I like my OTs like Runyon and Tre. Tough. Maulers. Leaders. Can you imagine either of those guys getting treated like that?

            Soft is one thing, there is more coming down the road about this story. The coaching staff was leaning on Incognito to toughen him up. The rest of the O-line wouldn’t eat with him. It’s possible he was a Shaun Andrews. Just a weirdo.

          • nicksaenz1

            Shawn Andrews was good, though. I’ll take talent however it comes. Clearly that locker room wasn’t a great place so it’s hard to take much stock in the rest of the O-line not eating with him.

          • Richard Colton

            Good point. Mike Pouncy and more than a few coaches are going to be fined too. But as far as Martin is concerned, why did they all hate him?

          • nicksaenz1

            No idea. Wasn’t the lunch thing stated as a prank, anyway? Either way, as good as the Pouncey’s are, I don’t care much for either. Openly supporting Aaron Hernandez when they know the kind of guy he is, is a big knock against you, in my book. So him taking issue with Martin for being “different” means very little to me.

          • cliff henny

            if anything, glad people like incognito and pouncey dont like martin.

          • nicksaenz1

            Not following.

          • Andy124

            Incognito and Pouncey aren’t looking very good right now. If they don’t like you, it probably reflects well on you.

          • nicksaenz1

            Got it. Haha. A little slow today.

          • RIP illa

            Probably cause (in my DMX voice) his a B and always been a B!!!

            I could understand someone enduring, that type of treatment, through their rookie year. And maybe even during a little bit of OTAs, but to endure it for that long and several months after, and then just walk away from you team and career…HELL NO!!! Add to that the level that it had gotten to…SMH…(in my Biggie voice) Somebody got to die!!!

            “No one’s” going to respect you. And if they don’t respect you, it’s going to be that much harder for them to like you.

          • Richard Colton

            that’s what a good O-line does…separate the weak from the obsolete

          • EaglePete

            some macho BS there. I get its part of locker rooms etc but gimme a break. You can still play well and be a reserved guy. I totally understand that angle though esp in football, not sure how you cant. I also dont buy the leaders on the team not seeing it angle. Guy could have put up a front like he was handling everything just fine but underneath he wasnt. How are the other players supposed to read minds. It may not have been that obvious until he left the team. They dont have to be friends, you hear it all the time, some players just do other things and keep to themselves and can still be very productive. Maybe O line guys are different as a group but at some point they are all adults. To me it shows more of a mental weakness from the bullying side. Maybe those meatheads didnt appreciate his superior brain or threatened he would take their jobs eventually. Punceys are the worst also.

          • RIP illa

            LMAO. Not everyone comes from the same “world” EP. The thoughts of him handling the “right way” by walking away from it and getting up in Incognito’s face and fighting it out are all dependent on which type of world you come from or live in. What you call macho BE is a way of life for some people and has nothing to do w/ being “Macho” but everything to do w/ standing as a man in their eyes and holding enough self respect to know that certain lines can’t be crossed w/ them. There are plenty of “reserved” players in the league that play well. what does being reserved have to do w/ anything??? plenty of reserved guys in the league and in life, that won’t take being walked over or bullied to this extent. Of course he put up a front like everything was ok until he walked away from his team. That would be probably the most natural and generally excepted thing out of human nature no matter where you come from. And no, guys didn’t or don’t have to like or be “friends” w/ someone to play w/ them. But they do have to have a modicum of respect for them or things can get out of hand like in this case. And what job where they threatened he would take??? He was already the team’s starting tackle!!! Job had already been taken. The whole superior mind angle, could be the case. However it works better in theory than it does in real life depending on where you come from.

            Look I’ve been bullied and I have bullied (never to this extent). I’ve been called nigger and sometimes I fought and sometimes not. I’ve walked away from fights and some I have not. It all remains relative to the individual and situation. But when it’s persistent and to the levels as this was…at some point, you have to have some self respect for yourself and do something about. What the person does is up to them. But the worst thing IMO, to do would be what Martin did!!! Not that he wasn’t a victim, but for the fact that he was the victim for this long and to this extent. Take control of your life and stop being the victim!!! Whatever he needed to do to accomplish that, short of f’n up his own career and walking away from his team (that is if his whole/majority of the team wasn’t in on it) should have been done, but to let it go on for so long. That’s not right. Should have told someone sooner or stood up for himself sooner or whatever, as long as it was sooner than a year and a half. And to have it leave the locker room and invade your home life, w/o doing anything about, ie, going to the cops, management, or Incognito’s place…HELL NO!!!

            I general have no concern or care for people that I don’t know and even worse for people that bring trouble my way. The reason why I could/can walk away from certain situations or “report” things instead of fighting is cause I hurt somebody so bad before that I actually felt bad, let alone anything at all (not a badass, lost plenty of fights before). So now I work harder to not let things escalate or get to the point where that might happen. That still doesn’t mean that I won’t stand up for myself or that I don’t have my trigger (as in a button that’s pressed that sets me off past the point of no return)!!! Call it Macho BS if you like…I call it life. Depends on where you are or come from.

          • RIP illa

            I hear ya. LMAO…i can totally see where you get the Andrews vibe. I don’t think that we have the kind of locker room that wouldn’t reach out to him and try and make him feel comfortable…at first. How he handles handles himself after that is on him. I could see him pulling a NNamdi and eating in his car. But there’s always the chance that it could work.

            Would really love to have a couple of Runyans and Trae’s but I don’t think that’s really our blocking style anymore. It definitely wouldn’t hurt though. However, on talent alone, it’s worth a shot. Plus I don’t think it would be a detriment to them or the locker room.

            W/ the info out presently, I think he was soft, and a bit of an oddball. Think the coaches did task Incognito w/ trying to “toughen” him up. But they chose the wrong A-hole for the job, cause Incognito, doesn’t know what too far is. I think he tried to get a rise/something outta Martin, and it was under the pretense of “normal” bullying/picking on at first. But Martin never showed anything that would be akin to standing up for himself and then Richie kept pressing harder and harder and taking further and further until it escalated until what finally got both of them off the team. Just my thoughts until more comes out.

          • Richard Colton

            of all the teams out there, Eagles actually make sense (if and only if, you remove personality from the equation). He’s got former college teammates like Ertz he can lean on. The team has a rep for redemption, respect, and collegiality. And we have a long term but not pressing need at the position.

            That’s the reason for signing him. Reason against? I’ve got a bad feeling about this guy.

          • RIP illa

            Lol. Got it. Nothing wrong w/ it.

  • borntosuffer

    Based on his contribution this season, I thought Sopoaga = Snookered

  • DirtyWaters

    Ugh. Unreadable.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    I hate that all national writers just write garbage opinions (Sopoaga trade; 7 TD record means nothing; Foles a one hit woner) in an attempt to get under fans’ skin, because that’s what gets their stories more clicks (and more money). I hate even more that they succeed in getting under my skin.

    • Adam

      Yeah, Florio has had that formula figured out for a while now. Spin an Eagles story in a negative way = $$$$.

  • Weapon Y

    Easterbrook is butthurt because of last Sunday. I’ll enjoy seeing him squirm when Chip, Foles, Shady, and the rest of the O light teams up the rest of the way.

  • RIP illa

    Not saying I agree, but the bleacher report blurb was funny as hell to me. The Sopaga rant was ridiculous and asinine. If he plays well in NE then good for him. Couldn’t care less as he wasn’t playing all to well here. We got something for a player that was not going to be here next year. Would I want a higher value pick…sure! But I also wanna crap gold and fart rainbows…not gonna happen!!! Wish we could get rid of more dead weight in return for something…cough…Matthews…cough.

    • evanphilly

      I’m also pretty sure Kelly isn’t the GM, and I wonder if he really had that much to say about the trade aside from saying that Logan was going to get the majority of the playing time from here on out.

    • Richard Colton

      Wait, Sopoaga played here?

      • cliff henny

        if you mean getting shoved 3-5 yards back into ryans on running plays and being stoned by center alone in passing game…then, yeah, he played

      • Adam

        He played his same old game really. Nothing on that stat sheet except for 1 BP.

  • Ron Swanson

    Please don’t include Bleacher Report on these things anymore. That site is a joke and doesn’t deserve to be acknowledged.

  • Chris

    This Easterbrook snippet is killing me…I guess he didn’t watch the game tape from last week showing that after Soap was gone, the D-line got pressure on almost EVERY play. Soap was taking valuable snaps away from younger, hungrier guys who are making an IMPACT. Ridiculous

    • mrparabolic

      Yea. I also like how he assumes that head coaches are making all of the personnel moves and how his only reasoning that Soap is any good is that BB picked him up. That is some circular ass logic right there. “BB is a genius for picking up secret superstar Isaac Sopoaga. How do I know that Isaac Sopoaga is secretly a superstar? Because genius BB picked him up!” Like the Patriots have never needed to fill a roster hole with whoever was available. What a goof.

      • Chris

        right..a guy who is past his prime, got cut from a team that desperately needs a NT and gets picked up by a team that also desperately needs a NT and it’s the pickup of the century

    • theycallmerob

      Whether is he watched game tape or not is moot; he’s a skins fan. automatically means he has no ability to recognize talent or comprehend complex schemes.

      • Chris

        Ahh I didn’t know that. Makes all the sense in the world now.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Haha I just told that to my wife who roots for the Eagles but was raised a Skins fan. The look I got was priceless.

  • firstdown

    vince wilfork = sopaga….filling a void w/ nothing……i’ll take the pick thanks…

  • theedevilsadvocate

    i love how everyone keeps hating on foles. i hope he just becomes a badass and takes us all the way and shuts everyone the hell up. im sure he will be traded so everyone can get the fast moving running back with an arm for qb and he will go on and win a super bowl for some other team. been said from the begining foles looks like he could be one of the greats not many people especially vick loyalist will take a serious look at the kid over their bias. i hope he continues to prove everyone wrong and when he does will any of these haters admit they are wrong… doubt it.

    • nicksaenz1

      They’d all say how they all knew he had it in him and he showed flashes in his limited time in his first two seasons. That’s if he does prove them all wrong. Here’s to hoping.

    • Bukester

      I can understand the disbelief but the improbable does happen. Haven’t these guys ever seen a no hitter. It isn’t ALWAYS the best pitcher but it IS ALWAYS something special. The fact that they would deny Foles his due will haunt them I hope.

  • joethomas215

    If throwing 7 touchdowns is so easy because Foles did it then where is Brady’s, Rogers, Luck’s, Brees, Romo’s 7. It’s pretty disrespectful, especially coming from people that can’t play the game. Give the guy respect till the Gaberts and Weedens do it

    • LostInChiTown

      Well, of course Brady, Rodgers, and Brees haven’t done it. I mean, first we got to play the Raiders, who were a putrid top 10 scoring defense. Compare that to the record setting defenses of the Lions, Dolphins, Bills, Falcons, or Vikings of the last 5-10 years. Yes, Peyton finally did it, but only because he was finally able to get out of a division that played the exceptionally sound Jacksonville Jaguars twice a year. The fear of that defense undoubtedly affected Manning every game of every year he was in Indy and is the reason Luck hasn’t hit 7 yet.

      Furthermore, you know what none of these QB’s have ever had? Riley freaking Cooper. I mean, Brady was stuck with Wes Welker as a no. 2 receiver before Manning generously gifted him a roster spot. And do we really need to ask whether the GB receivers of Cobb, Nelson and Jones compare to DeSean, Riley, and Avant? Just check their season or career stats!

      No, the reason Foles hit 7 TD’s is obviously because the NFL is broken. In this era of rule changes, passing is too damn easy. Just ask Super Bowl MVP Eli Manning! Brady, Rodgers and Brees are just too humble to want their names attached to a record, or they’d each have a dozen 7 TD games. The Eagles were gifted with the kind of subpar performance from the Raiders that the NFL has never seen outside of 16 Eagles games last year, every game Jacksonville has ever played, the 0-16 Lions, the Giants this year, the Saints last year, and a dozen other historically bad defenses. Someone start a petition to Goodel to fix this league.

      • Adam

        Hahaha, you win the internet today good sir.

      • G_WallyHunter

        This is GOLD..
        the comments on this site are half the reason I come

        • Brian

          You spelled that incorrectly.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        “who were a putrid top 10 scoring defense”

        They were 10 in yards allowed. 20th overall.

        • Andy124

          If you’re going to try to correct someone, at least be correct.

          They were 10th in total yards allowed. 12th in points allowed.

          They may well have been 20th in passing yards allowed. That’s probably what you were trying to remember.

          Edit: And that vote is not from me. :)
          Edit2: votes. It’s plural now.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Give the kid some credit. Foles played great, just as Vick did in the opener against WASH. No need to try to tear him down with the intent of building up Vick. We get that you’re a Vick fan above all else & not really an Eagles fan. It’s great that you’ll ride Vick through thick & thin, but trying to tear down Foles because he had success is transparent & makes your statements regarding the team hollow.

          • Andy124

            I think maybe you meant to reply to big butt. I am anything but a Vick fan.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yes, sorry. I was trying to chime in on top of your comment to her.

          • Andy124

            Gotcha.

        • theedevilsadvocate

          you just hate foles huh? thats just sad…

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I think it’s more blind love for Vick than anything else.

      • devCal

        you have been found.

      • AZ_Eaglesfan

        Greatest post I have ever seen on here. Excellent work.

      • poetx99

        bravo! i really don’t have anything to add so i’m gonna just sit here and clap.

    • planetx1971

      What he said!! lol

  • mrparabolic

    Mr. Easterbrook, you have outdone yourself.

    In response to Mr. Freeman’s comment that “what Foles did was take advantage of today’s NFL;” that must explain why it happened multiple times in the 1960s. It also explains why so many other quarterbacks have done it in recent years. Many factors went into Nick Foles’ record setting day. Mr. Freeman was the only writer prescient enough to recognize Nick Foles’ being garbage as one of them.

    • jabostick

      Not only that but if you look up Freeman’s response to Manning’s performance in Week 1, it amounts to literary fellatio. Freeman is a hack

  • Scott J

    Time will tell just how good Nick really is.

    • nicksaenz1

      So far, time has said that I rock.

      • Richard Colton

        legitimately laughed out loud

  • James243

    Frankly I admire Easterbrook. I find trolling as much fun as the next guy but I never had the ambition or the wherewithal to turn it into a career. Kudos, Gregg.

  • DEBO 215

    That’s funny because I got fuggin’ skewered for saying we should’ve gotten more for Sopoaga last week…

    • GEAGLE

      Please don’t validate your oppinion with that of a friggin DOPE!!!
      ..
      That trade was addition by subtraction, cap number off the books, any compensation we received would just be gravy! Get another EARL WOFF type of 5th round pick, and that would provide ridiculously more value than Soap should have brought in return

      • DEBO 215

        lol, we gave up a pick and a starting caliber player to move up like 10 spots and shed some payroll…we didn’t need to trade him but they REALLY needed a DT. Sopoaga didn’t play all that bad in his first game either.
        They could’ve just did Sopoaga for a 5th…him and a 6th for a 5th? Weak.

        • EaglePete

          again, Im pretty sure the Pats wouldnt have made the deal if that was the case. Its like youre saying the Eagles didnt even try to do better, we have no idea what went on behind closed doors so to speculate that they couldve done better is just a guess. Something is better than nothing and we had no use for him. At this point, starting caliber is even questionable. More like serviceable at best.

          • DEBO 215

            Just my opinion, but if I’m the Eagles and I have to give up a draft pick, I don’t make the deal. We didn’t need to make the deal. He played well in his first game for them too.

      • DEBO 215

        I will agree that Easterbrook is an idiot though.

    • EaglePete

      no mention of the fact that maybe Sop isnt very good and the Eagles moved up in draft position.Oh and the Pats are desperate for any interior help. You know, details that actually matter. Easterbrook is a total buffoon.

      • DEBO 215

        Well Sopoaga is serviceable and is a good run stopper. The Pats were really desperate for defensive line help with Wilfork out which is exactly why they should’ve been able to keep their draft pick instead of giving up a high 6th and a starting DT for a low 5th.
        People keep bringing up payroll too…this team is wayyyyyyy under the cap…It was a senseless move because of the involvement of the Eagles 6th round pick.

        • Andy124

          We moved up 10-15 spots. We gave up essentially nothing and made it easier to develop Logan and Geathers. Something for nothing is always better than nothing for nothing. Not sure what your complaint is.

          • anon

            Contract is off the books. Better draft pick and more money for next year. I’m sure they would have done the same thing with Casey if they could have. It’s an ok trade

          • Andy124

            Casey’s gonna ‘splode. Just you wait…

          • DEBO 215

            I just don’t like giving up the 6. I don’t think they needed to.

    • BlindChow

      Well, we can lump you in with Easterbrook if you really want

  • southy

    Sheil, I love this site with a passion, but I will be happy if I never again read the words “Bleacher” and “Report” placed next to each other on one of your posts.

    • mtn_green

      This…but there are some real stuff written there by real writers. And besides this post is somewhat about laughing at the stupid things national writers say, bleacher report says lots of stupid stuff.

  • EaglePete

    for anyone who doesnt already know this, theres a writer on Deadspin who just kills Easterbrook all the time. The articles are hilarious, he rips apart some of his articles piece by piece .Great reading.

  • BobbyGL16

    Ahh. The weekly Birds 24/7 fan “two minutes hate”. B-B, B-B, B-B!

  • Kevin

    Being an national sportswriter isn’t hard, its beyond easy. You know why, because Mike freakin’ Freeman is one (Sorry Sheil).
    To KC Joyner – Mr. Stats – apart from the Jackson touchdown, Foles threw the ball before the defender slipped and in most cases threw the ball before the receiver was open (remember after the Giants and Tampa game we were all saying Foles throws guys open… what happened to that?).
    Statistically, that performance was arguably the best in NFL history by a QB, trying to invalidate that because of bias against the QB who threw it is ridiculous. This is not saying that Foles is a Hall of Famer, a franchise QB or anything like that, but plenty of ‘better’ QB’s with better weapons have faced lesser defenses and not performed like this. Give the kid his due.

    • BlindChow

      Actually–and this is one of the reasons I really like the All-22′s–a lot of those receivers being open was Foles pump faking and looking off defenders before making the throw. So it wasn’t just Foles taking advantage of Oakland’s defensive failures; a lot of the time, Foles was the REASON they were failing.

  • jon h

    when did Chip Kelly become the GM of the team?

  • jon h

    based on all of these comments, I guess we can expect Eli Manning to put up more than 7 TDs against the raiders this week since they’ll have to travel across country AND since the Giants are coming off of a bye week?

  • Dr. Killinger

    The criticism of the Sopoaga trade has to be one of the dumbest things I’ve read all season. He was a marginal player at best.

  • 3D Philly Sports

    Peter King is such a turd

  • Johnny_P

    Hey ‘expert pundits’, let me throw a stat out at you that might actually make you think about eating some of your words: Nick Foles in 2013 = 13 TDs: 0 Ints
    I want all these dolts to read Sheil’s all 22 analysis. These guys are just armchair quarterbacks that automatically put down a guy like Nick Foles, b/c he’s Nick Foles, a 3rd rounder out of Arizona (non-sexy school).

  • UKEagle99

    I don’t know why I read what these national goons write anymore….

    I just don’t get the Foles is taking advantage of the rules to throw 7 tds BS. If it was so easy why don’t Rogers, Brees & co do it each year? Is it easier than it was 50 years ago? Undoubtably. Is it easy by today’s standards? The statistics say no.

    Anyone who says otherwise is just being a right royal bender!

    Oh and Brook Easteregg, did you just let the dictionary fall open and pick snookered? It just doesn’t make sense. Fleeced, that works. Snookered? Last time I looked we got a 5th round pick in that trade, unless it’s not a valid NFL pick nobody is “snookered” we just fill out a ticket and get our 5th rounder. Numbnuts!

    Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

    • Andy124

      You’re welcome my Brittish buddy.

    • BlindChow

      Actually, before Peyton did it this year, it had been 44 years since a QB threw 7 TD’s in a game. It’s not like all those rules suddenly appeared in 2013!

  • anon

    These comments are funny. Last week all we talked about was draft talk. This week — Foles is the best thing since sliced bread. Be great if we can get a breakdown on defense, or plays left on the field. I will say having boykin and jackson return kicks made a HUGE difference in terms of field position. 2 drives started on the raiders side of the field b/c we had good returns. I hope they go back to Boykin and DJ1 ROY.

    • Brian

      How many plays could possibly have been left on the field? Three?

      • nicksaenz1

        All 6 incompletions.

    • Andy124

      Totally agree… Nick Foles is the best thing since sliced bread.

      • Brian

        He’s even better than the rolls and butter at Texas Roadhouse.

        • Andy124

          I would eat that butter straight.

          • Brian

            Ha! I was dipping my steak in it, Saturday night.

          • cliff henny

            did you have 9-1-1 dialed just ready to push send?

          • Brian

            Nah. My wife did!

    • cliff henny

      up and thru dallas’ game, no one was more sure that qb was in ’14 draft than me. as Foles provides me with more information, i’m perfectly willing to adjust my opinion. still not 100% sold, but excited to sit thru a 7 week presentation, that’s for sure.

      • Andy124

        Yeah, I want to get this on record, because I’ve done more than my share of rejoicing this week:

        I’m not writing Foles’ name down in ink for anything, not making any bold proclomations, predictions or declarations. Still in evaluation mode, with a lot more optimism than before. Just like everyone else, I want to see more. Want to see him stay healthy and want to see him not have any more godawful games. I’m not going to freak if he has a bad game, I just want him to avoid the godawful ones.

        The best thing for me is this is the most confident I’ve felt that he’ll get his chance to provide a large enough sample size for us to finally make an informed decision on our QB situation. Exactly what many of us were begging for ever since the offseason.

        • cliff henny

          should rejoice…even the biggest foles basher knows foles becoming legit nfl qb is hands-down the best thing for the franchise. i will have kittens if he puts up stats north of Tampa.

          • BlindChow

            Yeah, there’s nothing wrong with being happy or excited by Foles’ performance. Are people really expected to add caveats about small sample size EVERY time they post something positive about Foles? That would be pretty tedious for readers AND writers.

  • John J. King

    Well as everyone – especially ESPN – knows the Raiders stink as do the Eagles, Nick Foles and Chip Kelly. With so much stink going through the air last Sunday, it’s no wonder that 49 points were scored in 3 quarters of play on seven TDs by a passer who stinks, to receivers who are lucky because defenders all fall down and the 10th best ‘D’ in the NFL was playing Keystone Kops that day. It does make you wonder though why, with the rules skewed toward the ‘O’ and especially the QBs, that all of the darlings of ESPN like Brady, Brees, Eli, Kapernick & Wilson haven’t done it yet? After all, it’s easy right? When the brain trust of Joyner, Easterbrook & Freeman, who are always spot-on with every analysis, say something, it must be true. LO effing L

  • JBShakes

    A modest proposal: since Gregg (the extra “G” is for “Good Lord, can you believe I get paid to write this crap?”) Easterbrook is so fond of handing out nicknames in his column, I think it’s only fair we return the favor.

    Henceforth, any time I mention him, he will be “Haughty Dipsh*t Gregg Easterbrook”.

  • TheGhostofNormVanBrocklin

    Here’s what I don’t understand. Foles had possibly the worst game of any QB this season against Dallas…but he’s been lights out in the other 2.5 games this year. Now, I’m not saying he’s the “QB of the future” and I’m not going anywhere near the Foles vs. Vick arguments. But if any other QB in the league was completing 63% of his passes with 13 TDs and ZERO Interceptions in 3.5 games the national media would be putting them in the damn Hall of Fame. Again, I’m not saying he’s the next Brees or Manning but give the guy the respect he deserves.

    • Jamie Parker

      P. Manning had 13 TDs and ZERO Interceptions after his first 3.5 games this year. He then added 3 more TDs in the 2nd half against us. So in a way, he has replicated what P. Manning has done this year so far. He’s bound to come back to Earth. I just hope the Dallas game wasn’t Earth.

  • JoeKnowsNada

    Easterbunny obviously a) did not watch the game, and b) did not make a study of Soapy’s performance this season for the Eagles. He is usually pretty thorough, but, this time, he was really lax on the subject matter at hand.

    Nick Foles – Who cares who he played, he DiD it. And, in less than three quarters, with excellence in execution on the part of everyone involved. QBs usually get too much credit or too much blame. In this case, his performance deserved every bit of credit available. As we have seen from Sheil’s excellent All – 22 analyses, guys ARE open, and frequently so. If the QB does not recognize what’s in front of him, or, can’t “find” them, well, you get a Dallas – game performance.

    I think we all can agree that no QB in history would have been able to throw 7 TDs vs. the ’85 Bears or the 2000 Ravens DEEs, for goodness sake! And the rules changes do play a role. All this being said, and, as someone else commented, no one over-analyzed or raised an eyebrow when the Great Peyton did it, with top-flight weapons aplenty at his disposal. What did Nick have? Yeah, DJax and LeSean, okay. But, come on. Jeff Maehl? Riley Cooper? Bryce Brown?

    It is the mark of a very good or great QB, when he can make average guys look very good, and good players look great. I am not going to say that Nick is a great QB, just yet (needs to show consistency, needs to show up vs. top teams, etc.), however, one can’t deny his ability to get the best out of Riley Cooper.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Regarding Easterbrook’s comments, did he even take into account that Kelly & BB are friends & just maybe Soap wasn’t in our plans, so Chip offered him up to his friend who was in dire need of help at NT with a season ending injury to Wilfork? So basically we traded a 6th rounder for a 5th, in doing a favor to a friend by ensuring he went to the Pats instead of testing the market if cut and going elsewhere.

    Don’t know why I’m even concerned. Bleacher Report is a joke.