Wake-Up Call: ‘Personality In Development’

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Billy Davis has been known to show some old footage of the Pittsburgh Steelers’ defense from time to time as a teaching tool. When this was brought up to Cary Williams Thursday, the veteran corner had an involuntary reaction upon hearing the Steelers’ name —  his body rejecting it like it might some bad salmon.

“Ummm, aahhh…no…I haven’t seen it,” said Williams uncomfortably, before spitting it out. “I hate Pittsburgh, to be honest with you.”




Old habits die hard, especially for someone wired like him. The feisty corner couldn't help but get worked into a lather when the Patriots stomped all over his grass this summer. Something in him triggered, like it did (in a much more subtle way) this week. Those are his bitter rivals. Or at least they were.

Now one of his old foes -- Patrick Chung -- resides just a couple locker stalls down from him and is his partner in the secondary. Right next store is James Casey and across the way Connor Barwin, two players that have more natural disdain for the horseshoe than they do the star. And on it goes.

Twenty-two men on this 53 man-roster are new. That's 42 percent of the team that hasn't been here long enough to grow roots. They're working their way into the soil inch by inch.

"I don't know anybody's rivalry right now in this locker room," said Williams, "anything that's going on with rivalries with New York, with the Cowboys, with the Redskins. You hear guys saying they hate New York, they hate Dallas. Those type of things kind of play in my mind as well. If you hate 'em, then I'm gonna hate 'em, and we'll just go out there and play football and hate these guys together. Once we start to get to know each other and things like that, we play with each other for a little bit and continue to build on the relationships both on and off the field, I think you'll see a difference."

The struggles on defense are typically linked to personnel and scheme change, and that's a big part of it. A sliver also needs to go lack of continuity. This is a group still trying to get on the same page on a variety of levels. They're still learning to play together and, yeah, even hate together.

Williams reiterated that, while there is a sizable learning curve to navigate,  the goal is to establish an identity as a feared defense. He wants receivers to cut their routes short and backs to run with apprehension because they know they'll get walloped. The hope is that this unit is building towards that, however slowly.

"I think we've got guys flying around, getting to the football, guys that are willing to make plays -- I think it starts there," said Williams. "We've got guys out there with attitude that don't want to get beat. I just think we have a great camaraderie right now and hopefully when we build on those things a little bit more each and every day, we can get better.

"We definitely have a personality in development. It's still a little murky right now, but at the end of the day hopefully we can establish some type of identity that we can build on and play with confidence with."

WHAT YOU MISSED

Michael Vick talks about his prospects of playing Sunday.

Chip Kelly believes Nick Foles can be a full-time starter.

Sheil with a quality All-22 post on how the running game could change with Foles under center.

A look at how the rookies have fared through five games.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Reuben Frank says Nate Allen is showing signs of progress.

Allen has raised his game recently. And he said that as critical as fans and media have been of his play, nobody could be as critical as he is himself.

“Real critical,” he said. “I beat myself up pretty bad. Not during the game, but after the game, watching tape. But that’s what makes me a better player, when you can sit there and criticize yourself and face what you did wrong.”

Jeffri Chadiha of ESPN.com chimes in on Kelly.

It's taken just over a month for Philadelphia Eagles head coach Chip Kelly to learn an important lesson about the NFL. Winning in this league isn't about how smart a coach can look. It's about how resourceful a coach actually can be over the course of a season.

As the Eagles limp along, trying to find something resembling momentum, the real question about Kelly's potential will be whether he can make that transition. It's easy to ponder the Eagles' possibilities when merely surveying their impressive offensive stats (they average 27 points and 454.8 yards per game).

It's also important to look beyond those gaudy statistics when taking a true measure of this squad.

COMING UP

We'll give you our predictions for the game.

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  • Loke1988

    Williams is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. In the sickening age of the NFL brotherly love fest he stands out as old school. Haven’t had anyone in the secondary like him since my last favorite Sheldon (knock out highlight real) Brown moved on to the other mistake by the lake.

    • Loke1988

      And I forgive you for looking at sconces Cary.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Me too, as long as he doesn’t get a stupid DPI penalty this sunday with Williams or V.Jax

      • Richard Colton

        me too. and I was really hard on him on here. Buddy would have liked this guy, and would have gotten him to play at a high level.

        • EaglePete

          screw buddy ryan and rocky for that matter. I dream of a day when our sports teams dont have to reference a fictional character and maybe adopt a real player for motivation.

        • GEagle

          Glad to see you coming around Colt….got my CDub jersey in August lol
          ..
          Finally bad cop to Demeco’s good cop.
          ..
          Cary is so important for this young defense, especially the returning players from last years gutless team…I. Love Wolff being in a locker room with Cary

  • nicksaenz1

    Cary is slowly growing on me. The one thing I have to admit is he brings the attitude this defense needs to have, and while a hot-headed cornerback isn’t the typical source of attitude for a D, I’ll take it.

    • GEagle

      I promised you will all grow to Love him…just wait til guys get comfortable and he gets real safety help

      • nicksaenz1

        He does too many stupid things on the field to grow to love him.

  • G_WallyHunter

    “Twenty-two men on this 53 man-roster are new. That’s 42 percent of the team that hasn’t been here long enough to grow roots. They’re working their way into the soil inch by inch.”
    These are the kinds of sentences that have me coming back day after day, keep it up, sports (Eagles) journalism at it’s finest, you don’t have to look farther than right here.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Nate Allen? Anyone?

    • GEagle

      Nate is probably scared to death to make eye contact with CDub

  • Adam

    “…. look beyond those gaudy statistics when taking a true measure of this squad.”
    “… It’s about how resourceful a coach actually can be over the course of a season.” “…Eagles limp along, trying to find something resembling momentum …”

    I can’t find anything resembling quality journalism in Mr. Jeffri’s (who the hell spells it that way anyway) post. What a terrible article.

    • Adam

      “But optimists tended to forget that Philadelphia’s problems weren’t solely Reid’s fault. They had a lousy defense that — surprise, surprise — remains lousy (Philadelphia is 31st in average yards allowed and 30th in points surrendered). They had special-teams units that didn’t create many game-changing plays. They also had an aging, fragile quarterback,Michael Vick, who is now sidelined with a hamstring injury.”

      Does he realize every one of those things is Reid’s fault?

      • G_WallyHunter

        Good old ESPN

      • borntosuffer

        Was that part of the rest of Jeffri’s post? I know there are plenty of blog posts about overpaid players. Maybe we need to have a “Top 10 Overpaid Bloggers” for those who talk out of their … lack of knowledge. In Jeffri’s case, it’s even worse. He can’t make a reasoned argument.

      • GiveMeABreak

        How do you assign fault to anyone in Philly given the way that Jeffie runs the organization? No one is accountable for anything and decisions about who is performing well are made based on Jeffie’s notes. I know one thing, Indy has had 2 good drafts since they grabbed Grigson. And don’t give me the story about Reid making every decision because you just don’t know and it solidifies your status as a hater.

        • Adam

          Reid was in charge of personnel matters. It’s widely known. It was his roster. The defense was bad because of the coaches he brought in and the players he made the team out of. Same with special teams. Is it any coiencidence that Andy’s team is performing well because he inherited a great roster and doesn’t have to do personnel stuff. And we’ve had 2 good drafts since Banner left, so what? And please, don’t tell me what I can and can’t say.

          • GiveMeABreak

            You don’t know any of that for a fact. You are just accepting as true what you are being fed. If you are going to follow the “widely known,” you should at least be consistent and note that Washburn was Howie’s idea as has been “widely reported.”

          • Adam

            Washburn was one of the most respected position coaches in the league. He was brought in to run the wide nine and that’s what he did. He’s fine under a DC who has a clue. Oh but who was our DC and who gave him the job? I’m sure you know the answer to that.

            Please keep up with your conspiracy theory BS. And please point me in the direction of a team that has the transparency and accountability you think you should have. There isn’t any. These teams aren’t owned by the public so they don’t owe you squat.

          • GiveMeABreak

            If you still think the Washburn decision was a good one, you have drunk the kool-aid. Look at all of the teams that are successful. Everyone one knows that Ozzie, Belichick, Thompson, and Loomis make the decisions for their respective teams. Face it, our FO will never get it done until it is revamped with professionals who know what they are doing. A former haberdasher and attorney do not a Super Bowl team make even when they are paired with a great coach.

          • Chali

            After a lockout season mind you. . . 6 4th quarter leads blown that season.

    • borntosuffer

      Yea, I read his first paragraph and all I could think of was “What?” How does Jeffri even have any idea that’s what Chip “learned”? Based on what?

      • cliff henny

        27 pnts 450 yards…jesus, wait till Kelly figures it out

    • BlindChow

      It’s short for Jeffrihasapeemapetilon.

  • Token

    Frank has always been a big Nate Allen fan. Has to be one of the worst media guys in the city. Just awful.

    Its funny, when Allen goes a game without a game breaking mistake people want to jump up and say wow hes becoming a player. No. Hes Not. Another guy I cant wait to see gone next year. Raise your expectations.

    • JofreyRice

      He took a pretty awful angle and missed a tackle on the Ruben Randle TD. Frank is heavy on obscure stats and records and light on analysis .

      • Soybot

        “Roob” also has awful taste in music.

      • Token

        Hes just an Ahole. Im sure all of his colleagues cant stand him. All you have to do is see him on DNL once to get what a dope he is.

    • GEagle

      Already he let Spadaro have it yesterday for trying to defend Cooper

  • cliff henny

    make it easy on you C-Wills and Co. if they don’t wear midnight green, hat’em…if you play them twice, really hat’em

    • knighn

      Thumbs up (or arrows up – whatever)!
      This is the way that it’s supposed to be!

      • cliff henny

        like the dave chappelle coke vs pepsi joke…’did ads for both, coke more recently, so it tastes better.

        • knighn

          I’ve heard a lot of Chappelle’s stuff but I haven’t heard that one! Speaking of Chappelle – would you ever pay for tickets to see one of his shows? I’ve thought about it, but I’ve also thought he might decide to flake and not show up. It’s not quite as high-risk as trying to see Axl Rose and the NOT-Guns-and-Roses but I think you’ve got to be prepared for some potential disappointment… or mayhem.

          • cliff henny

            part of his stand-up b/4 chappelle show…was part of a set about talking to high school kids, how to get out of the hood..’study hard, dont do drugs, you can’t-you’re trapped! learn how to dance or play ball, better figure out a way to entertain these white m’f’rs!’

          • Guest

            HAHA when he’s the crackhead and comes into junior high class… another jokes one

    • knighn

      Speaking of Midnight Green: has anyone else commented on the white-on-white that the Eagles were wearing last week?

  • Soybot

    The hate is strong in this one.

    • knighn

      Darth Sconces.

  • G_WallyHunter

    What’s this roto note I see about the Eagles approaching Poyer to ask him to switch to safety? Anyone else see of hear info on that?

    I’m sure Tim or Sheil would be covering it in the next few hours anyways.. CUZ THEY ON TOP OF THINGZ

    • anon

      Funny, in Roto there’s a former scout’s not about Poyer pushing Boykins. Funny. I think he’d be too small for safety, maybe he can put on another 10 lbs of muscle but he was a ball hawk in college.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya what I was thinking, and if they think they have enough people at corner, then why not. Especially if they think he will be a ball hawk at safety, might as well right? can’t harm trying…

        when was that Boykin note? or when did you see it? because LOL at that now that Boykin has shown us what he has the last 5 games…

        • anon

          yeah they have him for a couple of years, might as well not waste a pick.

          • G_WallyHunter

            If he’s a ball hawk ya sure, like I said might as well, add a few pounds and he can’t possibly be worse than Coleman or Anderson right? (at safety, not special teams)

    • BlindChow

      Jeff McLane had a blurb about it. Said Poyer played safety his freshman year of college, but switched to corner. He said he could add 10-15 pounds without difficulty.

      • G_WallyHunter

        So is he just doing his regular “Jeff McLane speculation”, or is there some confirmation from within? I know you probably don’t know this, but I guess we’ll wait and see in the next few days.
        Definitely worth doing, why not

  • Treebeard

    “If you hate ‘em, then I’m gonna hate ‘em, and we’ll just go out there and play football and hate these guys together.” Warms my heart to hear things like this.

  • jabostick

    Let’s go out and hate these guys together! What a great quote haha. Love it.

    I gave Cary a bit of a hard time in training camp because I wanted him to play before he started talking but I’ve always love hearing his opinion. Guy gives a good interview

  • ILLEAGLE

    I like the quote. Time the DEFENCE got a attitude!! I still miss John Ruyon.