Instant Observations: Eagles Vs. Jets

Here’s what we saw during the first half of tonight’s Eagles-Jets game.


* The Eagles’ offense was horrible. Nick Foles and company were shut out on their first six drives. They finally got on the board with a field goal with 2:34 left in the second. But that came after a turnover, and they only went 5 yards before Alex Henery set up for the 38-yard field goal.

* Foles was 6-for-17 for 63 yards. He averaged 3.7 yards per attempt and fumbled once. Of course, it wasn’t only Foles. Protection was bad, and I counted at least three drops. The first-team offensive line from left to right was: Matt Tobin, Allen Barbre, Julian Vandervelde, Danny Watkins and Michael Bamiro.

* Bryce Brown got the start at running back. He carried nine times for 29 yards and also had two catches for 29 yards. One was a 21-yard pick-up in which he broke multiple tackles. The starting wide receivers were Greg Salas and Clay Harbor. Jeff Maehl and Russell Shepard also rotated in. Rookie Zach Ertz started at tight end and had a pair of drops. James Casey also saw some action, but left the game with a hamstring injury.

* The Eagles huddled-up for much of the first half. I didn’t realize it until now, but after watching the first three preseason games, offenses that huddle completely bore me. Let’s not make a habit of doing that in the regular season, please, Chip. Thanks in advance.

* On the second play of the game, the Jets brought a blitz. Two former Eagles draft picks – Ricky Sapp and Jaiquawn Jarrett – sacked Foles, who fumbled. It was his third turnover of the preseason. Foles also had two other fumbles earlier in the preseason that he recovered.


* Most of the Eagles’ players who will start next Monday night against the Redskins sat vs. the Jets. The first-team defensive line was Clifton Geathers, Damion Square and Bennie Logan. The outside linebackers were Chris McCoy and Brandon Graham. The inside LBs were Jake Knott and Casey Matthews. The corners were Brandon Boykin and Jordan Poyer. And the safeties were Nate Allen and Earl Wolff. One of those two is expected to start in the regular season with Patrick Chung.

* McCoy was the stand-out early. He nearly had an interception and then notched a couple sacks. On one, he came from the QB’s blind side and forced a fumble. McCoy has a good shot to make the roster as the fourth outside linebacker, although the Eagles will still likely look at that position closely when other teams make cuts.

* Graham got matched up with a running back on the first drive, trucked him and then got a hit on Matt Simms. Simms was called for intentional grounding in the end zone, which resulted in a safety.

* If jobs were really on the line tonight, Emmanuel Acho out-played Casey Matthews. Acho had five tackles (four solo), a sack, a tackle for loss, a forced fumble and a QB hit in the first half. He also had good coverage on a third-down incompletion and forced a punt. Matthews had one tackle and was also called for defensive holding in the red zone.

* No one in the Eagles’ secondary played well. Simms went 19-for-25 for 147 yards. Allen, a veteran starter going up against Jets backups, did nothing to stand out. Kurt Coleman saw some time as an outside corner with the Eagles thin at the position.

* Knott seemed to play well. It would be a surprise if he didn’t stick. He had six tackles (four solo), including one for loss and forced a fumble.

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  • docboy75

    Matthews just let a guy get out of his grip and ran an additional 20 some yard.. and Long had a guy in his grip and lost him as he went down….you can cross both of their name off the list now…

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya that play down the sideline…. Matthews and Poyer had him in their grips lol, terrible play

    • Chris

      matthews is done. acho and knott making the team, i hope.what a pathetic attempt at a tackle, when he should know he is on the bubble

      • Token

        Matthews has been bad all preseason, and his entire career up to this point. If he sticks over Knott or Acho its simply the Oregon connection.

        • Chris

          yup, i’d like to think that Chip is smarter than that.

      • G_WallyHunter

        him and poyer both embarrassing on that play, is poyer on the bubble? or probably a lock.. ah his versatility that’s right..

        • hillbillybirdsfan

          Poyer is probably a lock due to the injuries, but he better shape up or it won’t be a long run for him.

    • docboy75

      Go ahead and mark Dixon off too…he is being pushed around like a sack of turd…Wolffe is looking good… send Coleman packing too…maybe Brown can play a little inside lb too..

  • Token

    Im worried that Ertz might be a turd. The guy cant catch anything this preseason. He needs to step up. And the great James Casey hurt his hammy somehow.

  • Chris

    If Curry hasn’t earned significant playing time, I don’t know what else he can do to earn it. I know it’s against 3rd stringers but it’s not his choice when he gets put into the game, he just keeps impressing.

    • #7

      They have to find a way to get this guy in the game

  • djack10

    clay harbor picked a horrible game to get celek disease and starting dropping balls

  • Rick H

    Sheil I would cut the entire backup oline along with every backup in the secondary. The only reasons I wouldn’t cut more guys is becasue they didn’t play tonight. This is the first time (and I am very disappointed to say it) that a NFL coached Chip kelly team looks very bad and worrisome! It is way way pre mature I know but even for the final pre season game these guys look terrible.

    • George

      So, you’re going to base your opinion on the last mean-less pre-season game full of back-ups to say Chip Kelly stinks. My gosh, lets wait a while before we make that conclusion!

    • KobraKai7474

      So, based on a genuinely meaningless game in which no starters and few expected contributors even played a snap and in which the coach went out of his way to show not even a single wrinkle in his opening day offense and defense, you are forming opinions on the team and its coach?! Really!?? To be clear, I not saying you are wrong. I am just saying you are crazy to use a final preseason game as any part of the reason you reached your conclusion.

      • Rick H

        Your point is well taken! The way I wrote it was intended to convey my overall opinion of the Eagles “weak and talent less roster”. They have some very good players and I mean “some” but this roster is not good. The perceived good players are overrated. If you watch the top 15 teams in the league most of their backups would be getting lots of playing time on our defense especially and a few on offense too.

  • I like Tucker

  • The R

    Acho, anderson,Knott and dear i say coleman* stood out tonight thats it

  • Damien

    Casey Matthews played worse than my grandma… Awful…

  • Wilbert M.

    This is a horrifying scenario to enter a season. Our best DL is a situational player. We only have one LB that has played outside in a 3-4 in an actual game. Our safeties are so bad I don’t know what to say. I didn’t expect the Eagles to cure all these issues, but I also didn’t expect them to ignore them.

    • KobraKai7474

      This is what a rebuilding team looks like. This year is going to be all about building for next year and beyond. Winning was never expected, nor should it be. Best case scenario for this team is that, while their final record stinks, they start playing really well after mid-November.

  • #7

    I didn’t see the game, but was this true about Ertz? I sure hope not

    • hillbillybirdsfan

      He was not very good, that’s for sure.

      • #7

        Alligator arms, drops, or both?

        • hillbillybirdsfan

          Drops and sloppy route running. He’s a kid, plenty of time to get things cleaned up.

          • #7

            Yeah hopefully he can clean it up…in hurry. I’m looking forward to what he can do in the RZ…if he can be trusted now I guess

  • Kleptolia

    Interesting that last week Vick struggled when he was asked to line up under center more than usual and Foles looked good when running the regular offense in the second half.
    This week, Foles is huddling more than usual (according to you, Sheil) and he has his worst performance of the preseason.
    Barkley comes in the second half running the up tempo, and leads an 80 yard drive.
    In the midst of all of the hand-wringing, can anybody see a pattern?

    • hawaiieaglefan

      Chip wanted to see how his team does in obvious passing situations. He got his answer. Im not sure he likes it.

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    It looks like Chip decided to show next to nothing once the QB competition was decided. The offense looks promising overall. The defense looks bad but hopefully it will be bad in the process of coming together instead of looking bad in the process of coming apart like last year. McCoy, Knott and Acho look like upgrades over Chaney and Matthews. The starters on the OL look good and the DL looks good. If they stay healthy I think they’ll hang around in a weak division for most of the year.

  • BK Lounge

    Any Adrian Robinson sitings? I was streaming the game on my comp so the quality sucked and I couldn’t rewind any plays

  • hawaiieaglefan

    Just as i thought the oline is really terrible at pass protection. Thank god that chips system run bolcks the majority of the time. I only hope that the eagles can take the lead early in games. With our horrible pass protection it will be hard for us to try to catch up if we fall behind on the scoreboard.

    • KobraKai7474

      You did not see the Eagles offensive line last night. You saw their backups. Last night’s game merely confirmed that if the offensive line is beset by the same number of injuries as last year, then, yes, the Eagles (and just about any other team in the same fix) are going to struggle mightily. Other than that, there are absolutely no meaningful conclusions that can be derived from that game.

      • BlindChow

        And they were playing the Jets’ defensive backups as well.

  • KobraKai7474

    Repeat after me, there is no more meaningless set of games in all of sports in the entire universe than the final week of NFL preseason games. The only people who should care even a little bit are the owners (who make a fortune by forcing season ticket holders to pay for this drek) and the handful of players in each team who are fighting for a slot at the bottom of a roster and/or on the practice squad. Anybody else who thinks… or even acts… like these games and the individual performances therein have any meaning at all is a fool who deserves our ridicule.