Jon and Kate Gosselin

They’re reality TV’s cuddliest family, but increasingly noisy critics allege that Berks County’s Gosselins — and their show, Jon & Kate Plus 8 — aren’t all they appear to be

IT’S A CHILLY Saturday at the First Assembly of God church in upstate Marcy, New York, but the commotion seems more like Christmas morning. And from the looks of it, the turnout is better. Jon and Kate Gosselin, the darlings of Jon & Kate Plus 8 — the TLC reality show chronicling their lives raising a set of twins and sextuplets — aren’t scheduled to appear for another hour, but the parking lot is already packed.

The crowd is more than 500 strong: silver-haired matrons, stroller-pushing moms, college girls in sweatshirts, kids in tees emblazoned with photos of the Gosselins, the occasional unlucky boyfriend or husband, dragging his feet like it’s the first day of school. Many have traveled for hours, paying $10 to snap a fuzzy picture, get an autograph, and adore America’s Favorite Parents in person; many will buy up Jon and Kate’s best-selling book, Multiple Blessings: Surviving to Thriving With Twins and Sextuplets, from an impromptu Barnes & Noble kiosk.

The pastor delivers a blustery introduction about how marriage and family are under attack, and how Jon and Kate represent our political mantra of the day, hope. In flawless makeup, stylish jeans and a gray sweater, Kate takes the stage (no Jon today, turns out), looking more like a 20-something headed for a date than the 33-year-old mom whose brood has made her a cable phenomenon. Perched on a stool and looking down at the sea of wide-eyed fans below her, she launches into the practiced spiel: how she and her IT analyst husband from Wyomissing, two miles west of Reading, just wanted a family, and ended up — through fertility treatments, luck and prayer — with a modern Brady Bunch. She describes her resolve not to selectively abort any of the embryos; how Jon’s miserly employer laid him off because he didn’t want to insure all those kids; and the early days in survival mode, trying to feed eight mouths and standing in line for heating assistance. “We had no van … no car seats … no cribs, we didn’t have room in our house, we had no income,” she sniffles, and her fans nod in sympathy. They’ve watched. They know.

Well, sort of. What they know is the reality-show version of the Gosselin family, the funhouse-mirror reflection of what life is like for parents who suddenly find themselves with eight children and cameras rolling. Because there is another story behind the 80-plus episodes of family vacations, potty training and amusement park escapades, and it’s not so warm and cuddly.

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JON AND KATE were an ordinary couple thrust into an extraordinary circumstance: six babies in three minutes. When the sextuplets were born on May 10, 2004, at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center, the media swooned, dubbing the tiny babies the “Hershey Kisses.” Kate’s well-worn sob story on the speaking circuit notwithstanding, neighbors and businesses donated diapers and strollers and gift cards to Sam’s Club; before the whole family went home, the NBC remodeling reality show Home Delivery did over the couple’s small Wyomissing house to make room for six more.

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  • Nancy

    Fans won't like this article, because the truth hurts. The Gosselins are not as sweet as their fans want them to be, are they……

  • Barb

    Thank you to all who contributed to this article. It is a great start and hopefully more people will feel they need to come forward to put a stop to what I feel has become out of control and unrealistic – the Gosselin family, TLC (and all of their cohorts – production companies, product placement companies, etc.), 'reality TV'… And maybe more people will stop contributing to this voyeurism that is called 'reality TV'. It's not good for adults but it is absolutely horrific for children to be subjected to.

  • amanda

    Great article! I was particularly glad to see Jon's ex boss speak up and tell the real reason why Jon was fired. I knew they were lying about the whole thing. When will people wake up? I have not watched in months and I hope others stop as well. These children should not be treated as a product. Of course as Jon said in a recent article his kids are "marketable". UGGGH! How can people support these sleeze-bags.

  • Bev

    I can see Hollywood having to adopt a Gosselin's Law – ala Coogan's Law – to ensure children in reality shows are PROTECTED!!! Time limits for filming, trust funds for the monies, psychological/counseling available with tutoring…. remember they are nothing MORE than a modern Dionne Quintuplets. "Multiple Births should not be confused with entertainment"!!!

  • Christine

    I can't believe this is the article that was touted on the anti-Gosselin blogs for months. This it IT? All your pleas for people to anonymously send you dirt on the family and this is all we get? I'm sorely disappointed in this story, we were promised it would bring the family down and an article of gossip won't do it.

  • Jen

    Know that I have STOPPED watching this children exploitation – the only information missing from this article is how Jon and Kate don't even officially work anymore. How else can you explain away it all? Obviously the monies from the show and the DVD sales bought that new house…. but it was on the backs of those innocent children. The J&K effect must stop.

  • Sonia

    As a journalist I am disappointed in this article. This piece is written more as a editorial and lacks the sources to even make it seem like a real news piece. And by the way, I checked out that Gosselins without a Pity site and found it to be more like a bunch of bitter chackling women than people with any real concern. With one section that has more than 1000+ comments mostly about fridge and why she is cleaning it. Clearly as a journalist you need to go back to school and take journalism 101. And by the way, I am not a fan of Jon and Kate, just someone who is tired of biased articles by people who clearly do no research except on websites.

  • Elizabeth

    Since PA laws won't protect the 8 Gosselin children perhaps articles like this will help reveal the reality behind this reality show. There is NO difference between the Gosselins choosing fertility treatment (against doctor's advice) and Nadya Suleman in that both were in no financial situation whatsoever to afford additional children. Yet Kate is put on a pedestal by Dr. Phil who vilifies Nadya Suleman. The Gosselin parents humiliate, belittle and embarrass their children and demean each other. Terrible parenting.

  • Jennifer

    "The brickbats are surprisingly well-written and thought-out" – you lost your creditability there. GWOP is a sewer and the laughingstock of several other message boards and blogs for its incessant, hysterical attacks on the Gosselin family. And not just Jon and Kate – among the "advocates", there are a number of posters who denigrate the children, calling them fat, suggesting that they will be serial killers when they grow up, etc.There’s a thoughtful discussion to be had about the show and the ethics of putting your children on TV, but it is not happening at GWOP, nor has it ever (they’d rather talk about Kate’s hair and Jon’s testicles or lack thereof). Your piece is long on innuendo and short on fact – for example, you reference but do not detail Beth Carson’s supposed “unpleasant departure” from the show. Even the loonies at GWOP have not come up with any explanation for her absence from the show, and they are not shy about making things up and calling it fact. If you know

  • Alison

    I am SO happy that Jon's former employer spoke out and told the truth. It should have happened a long time ago. Thank you for the article. Yes, a lot of it has been discussed online for quite some time, but the firing situation always seemed suspicious to me. Will be interesting to see the Gosselin's spin on this . . .

  • Jennifer

    It certainly is sad to see the Gosselin children these days. They seem overwhelmed and miserable. I hope the parents or at the very least TLC, pulls the plug on this trainwreck soon. The children are being unfairly damaged by all this publicity, while their parents just like raking in the dough…it's digusting.

  • Masterson

    Its funny that someone such as "Sonia" who is proclaiming herself be a real journalist and couldn't read the first line of the story saying, "IT'S A CHILLY Saturday at the First Assembly of God church in upstate Marcy, New York, but the commotion seems more like Christmas morning." I suppose that research was done solely online. I guess that the journalist who wrote this story could go and take journalism 101 at the same community college that you did so that she could spend her Wednesday afternoons responding to articles rather than actually writing them herself. Obviously this person in an advocate for the show or at least Jon and Kate and chooses to bash a writer rather than rebut the facts listed. Good job to the journalist who wrote this story. I'm glad that people are finally getting informed of how these children are really treated.

  • Teresa

    Now if they would only change the laws in Pennsylvania someone could put an end to this horrible show and give those kids back their privacy.

  • L

    As a writer who is so clearly biased and affiliated with the worst of the worst biased hate blogs out there, it's hard to take you seriously. Why single out one hate blog when there are numerous blogs on either side of the issue to cite? This article is sorely lacking in facts and heavy on sour grapes and gossip. Hardly what I would call "news."

  • Dorie

    Jessica you have made a lot of Kate fans angry, lol. But by writing this article hopefully laws will change in Penn and someone in authority will do something to help the kids. Jon and Kate are money hungry greedy parents who would sell their kids souls to the devil if it meant they could get another free trip or mansion. Thank you for stepping up to the plate and writing and honest and truthful article. You rock!

  • Alison

    Hey, I'm not housebound. I work in a law firm. I'm on my lunchbreak catching up on some reading. I want to ask you, how do you defend Jon Gosselin stating that he was fired due to his employer not wanting to insure his family? They've used that speech all over the country. What do you think about that? I honestly want to know, since you are defending them. I think they are liars. I don't post anywhere else, BTW. I've just thought something was wrong with this family for a while and did a little search on my own.

  • Xupris

    Thank You. I waited patiently for this article to appear. You did a wonderful job. I can't believe Jon was lying all this time about being fired from his job but thanks to you and your hard work another Gosselin lie has been exposed. Please keep continue about the Gosselins.

  • Janice

    Why is Jon and Kate Gosselin still going to churches when they don't need the money anymore? Why do they lie about why Jon was fired? And Jon bragging about never having to work again when she was pregnant with the tups? Well, neither Jon nor Kate have a job now.

  • vernice

    I loved the article and I think that it is good that these people have been exposed as to what they are really doing to those kids. Those kids need to be able to live a normal life regardless of the fact that they have been under the media's eye since birth. The parents are using them to make money and that is sad. Stop Watching!!!

  • Caitlin

    If someone said to me "Here's a bunch of money and free stuff. Let us film your family." I'd say okay! I see them pack for trips on this show and she has to pack like 900 outfits and two weeks worth of food to last only 3 days. Despite everything that's given to them, I wouldn't say they live on easy street. I just worry that the kids will turn into fame whores. You can already tell that the popularity of the show has gone to Kate's head. I just hope their kids stay grounded. If I had 8 kids under the age of 9, I'd need a little help, too…. Great article, Jess.

  • Michelle

    This article will start the ball rolling. There are irrefutable facts that contradict what J&K have publically said is true. You don't need blogs on "either side of the issue". There is no issue. The Gosselin kids were set up from the get-go to make money for their non-working parents. Period.

  • Maureen

    So this is the much-awaited article from Jessica. There is not one line of it that hasn't already been posted on the internet at other sites. Compilations are a dime a dozen on the internet. The author might have done some research on the Paul Petersen quote. CNN is not the first place that he used it. Why didn't Jessica talk to Julie? She couldn't have.

  • Andi

    Finally, somebody isn't kissing Kate's behind and saying "how do you do it!"She doesn't do it. She has "helpers" and she's away most the time.Thanks again!

  • Christie

    Well if they spoke to God and God told them not to go to the lower paying engagements, who were they to say no? After all, their God is a greedy God. Just saying.

  • Gossie

    "Here's a bunch of money and free stuff. Let us film your family." I'd say okay!" = having your child filmed with his father using an old, used, dirty plastic bag to extract a turd from his behind for all the world to see? Really? Money means that much to you? Just have to wonder how Collin will feel about that when he's 15 or so. Some people put an awful low price tag on their children's dignity.

  • Judith

    It is obvious that either you or your PR team posts on comment sections such as this to "defend" your choices.Unfortunately, it does not change the truth or the hard facts that are out there. If anyone takes a stroll down your old website, you can clearly see a pattern of taking and begging. Yes I realize you have 8 children. Yes I realize you were financially struggling (who isn't these days?). I know several families with 6-8 children (many of them special needs). These families work and manage to provide for their families without needing a reality show and without selling pictures or books of pictures of their children. We all walk different paths in life. We are all handed different hands of cards. I understand that. However, we must keep our feet on the ground and stay focused on what's important. In the end, all of the accumulations of earthly "blessings" will not matter. It will only matter if you helped the least of your brothers. Please stop lying about your st

  • Roxanne

    utter whackjobs who are the most hateful, jealous, judgemental "Christians" I've ever come across. Really? Because Kate is the perfect example of what I would want in a Christian. Liar, hateful, mean, entitled. Just want I want in a Christian role model.Look this woman had 8 children, whoopy doo…..she didn't cure cancer, she doesn't give any of us new advice, she whines more than anybody else I have ever encountered and thinks everyone around her should bow down to her. Is this the type of person you want to be like or your children?I don't know anything about GWOP but I'm here to tell you, anyone who advocates for those children, have my blessing.

  • Tammy

    Don't hate the player, hate the game. Meaning don't hate the journalist who wrote this piece, hate the Gosselins for choosing to live a life that hurts and belittles their own flesh and blood.

  • Jennifer

    Ah, we already have the nutjobs insisting that anyone who doesn't subscribe to their latest crackpot theories (e.g. Jon is an adulterer, Kate is an anorexic pill-popper) must be part of their "PR team". Ridiculous.I'll bow out shortly b/c I know that I can't win an argument against 10 housebound women on "disability" with an endless amount of hatred for total strangers and nothing better to do than post over and over to make it look like they represent a much larger group than they do.

  • Gossie

    Note to GDNNOP: Jealousy is an ugly, ugly thing.

  • Kacey

    I didn't say a thing about making Kate your own personal role model or an example to your kids. I didn't say anything about what Kate being a good Christian or not. My point was this – what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy?

  • Kristin

    Great story Jess! It's nice to finally see the truth behind J&K, that you only get glimpses of during those wonderfully produced shows!

  • Kelly

    I keep hoping Jon sprouts a new set and finally – finally – tells Kate to STFU

  • Gossie

    "Even the loonies at GWOP have not come up with any explanation for her absence from the show, and they are not shy about making things up and calling it fact."Besides the obvious fact you contradict YOURSElF with this one sentence, how do you know they don't know the ENTIRE story but have committed and honored a request not to disclose the details? You don't. In fact, there's SO MUCH you don't know.

  • Joann

    Thank you for your well written, well-balanced article. I watched for many years, sometimes with trepidation due to Kate's irrational behaviour about gum, cupcake mess, treatment of her husband, etc. I love the children. I pray for this family. I think they have sold something very precious.

  • Mary

    I've been worried about the effects of this show on the children (and the increasingly weird behavior of their mother) for some time. I am not affiliated with nor have I ever posted on GWOP but I do read there. They are not as "Jennifer" portrays them, but are genuinely concerned about the children and they do not allow calling the children names, etc. My wish is for the Gosselin family to get serious marriage and family counseling for the strain this filming has put on them. I also wish for a reconciliation with their extended families. This is not a healthy situation for any of them. Thank you for printing this story.

  • Virginia

    I also am not housebound, but I work as a lawyer in Washington, DC. Never on the GWOP site has anyone attacked the children to my knowledge. If it has been written that Mady was sorely in need of counseling or help, it was followed by a statement that her behavior was not her fault and stemmed from…. you see where I'm going? I, for one, resent the remark that 10 women who, what, are agorphobic are writing the millions of postings concerning their views on the Gosselins. Yes, they judge, and you are judging. Jon & Kate put themselves on TV for all to view. They didn't think they would be judged?

  • Tall

    I believe the new home is titled in the name of a REVOCABLE trust – meaning once the publicity has died down – Jon & Kate can "revoke" the trust & put everything in their name – and not the kids. Pitiful & something should be done to protect the ones that have EARNED the house their parents are living in.

  • Lourdes

    I'm glad to read attributed comments from the disgruntled Ohio speaker-booker and Jon's former boss. These non-anonymous facts are what's needed in the dissection of the Gosselin phenomenon. But I'm dissapointed in the usage of gossip sites–and media reports that discuss the gossip site–as "sources." Did the writer not try to contact Jodi and Beth to get the true stories?

  • Jen

    Yep, it must all be we terrible "haters"….can't be that Jon and Kate have been lying for years. Can't be that Jon and Kate have had their hands out for years. Can't be that Kate (particularly) has brought on the bulk of the criticism with her horrible treatment of her husband on air. Can't be that even fans who have met her have been sorrowly disappointed in how rude she is. Nope…it MUST be bloggers who don't like her. Yep…logical to a fault the stalker fans are. There are obviously people whom you can say, "The sky is blue" and they will say, "It's yellow and it's all your fault!" Wake up people…what more do you need?

  • Not a Fan

    Finally a truthful article on what the Gosselins are really up to….Everyone says the Gosselins don't have a job but I say they do….Scamming and begging could be considered a job. Just saying. I really wish Aunt Jodi would tell us what really happened. In fact it would have been great if any family member would have come to their defense. Their silence speaks volumes, tho.

  • Edith

    Actually it doesn't take a blog to figure these two out. It takes a brain and two eyes and watching their trainwreck shows for the past year. I finally had to quit watching but not before seeing their children's privacy invaded in "every" form. If you read their many interviews you will find that Jon and Kate contradict themselves time and again (they can't help but trip up on their lies), and just one look at Cara's face or Mady's behavior will tell you what they have done to their children. Further I do not understand why any church would sanction Kate's behavior towards her husband. Actually I think that is part of their popularity. People love to believe that if Kate can make a fool out of her husband on TV, they can justify how they treat their own spouses. It's sad, really. I would like to know who the "average viewer" is who relates to a $1.3 million dollar home, an organic chef, spa visits, free trips, and freebies galore! I wish you could have touched more on the issue

  • Amy

    Finally an article exposing these two sell-out morons for what they are REALLY doing. Greedy, no good jerks. Karma will surely get them in the end.

  • Alison

    With Jon and Kate Gosselin jetting all over the country to give "advice" and speak about sandwich making and coupon clipping, why the heck would they not take an opportunity to give their side of the story? It's not like they don't want the publicity. They seek out publicity. They, or their family, should defend them, if they can. I think basing the "firing" story on such a lie might unravel their whole master plan. Idiots. LOL

  • Kacey

    GWOP is a crappy website run and used by a bunch of utter whackjobs who are the most hateful, jealous, judgemental "Christians" I've ever come across. The worst part is that they do in fact have a valid point – the show has drifted quite a ways from its original premise and maybe it's time to end the series – but what does that have to do with Kate's weight, her visible foundation line, or her hair? This article is based on a website where those nutters believe Kate used her nursing connections to score Clomid, overstimulated her ovaries, and basically raped Jon in order to get knocked up with multiples and end up where they are today. WTF?

  • Jen

    Just wondering how those churches and other groups who paid $25,000 plus first-class airfare, first-class accomodations and security are thinking now that they may have learned that their sob story of poverty was not caused by a terrible employer who fired Jon for insurance reasons, but because he was stealing company time and begging for handouts?I'd be thinking I was defrauded…not to mention the heat the churches took for hosting them in the first place! Can you imagine the outcry now that it has been confirmed that the lied, and did so to gain sympathy and handouts? Not to mention, true Christian Kate, lying in a house of God.

  • Andi

    Jennifer, please show a link from GWOP where kids are called "fat".The only place I have seen the kids criticized is on the TV show by theirMother. Please, find the link. I've read most of what is there and have NEVER seen anything insulting the children personally. Post the link . . . .I'd much rather be a GWOP "loonie" than celebrate and condone kids being exploited. Kids are not a product and it is not THEIR responsibility to assure their parents never have to work again.

  • Renee

    Prove to us that Katie Irene didn't "use[d] her nursing connections to score Clomid, overstimulated her ovaries, and basically raped Jon in order to get knocked up with multiples and end up where they are today." No ethical doctor would have proceeded with her treatment had she not have known what was going on. They didn't GAMBLE, she knew what she was doing all along. She doesn't address her "condition" much and when questioned about it, changes the subject in a hurry! Makes you wonder.

  • Kacey

    Do you GWOPpers really believe his employer would come right out and say he was firing him because of insurance reasons? Wouldn't that be illegal? Wouldn't he find another reason to fire him while everyone knew what really happened?

  • julie

    "what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy? I have no idea what you are referring to with that comment;Ha! That's a laugh.

  • Alison

    I've heard Kate refer to her daughter, Mady, as being ugly and hateful. I've heard her, on the show, mock almost all of her children, except for Hannah. They're doing the show – they know people are going to discuss the show. How about pull out of the show and give the kids some privacy? Maybe then the criticism of the kids would stop. From the public, not from Kate. That will continue for the rest of Kate's life. Jon's former employer should sue them. Take all the money they have and put it in a trust for the 8 working Gosselins. Let Jon and Kate work for awhile. What a disgusting duo they are.

  • Mack

    I've always tried to remain on the fence regarding the Gosselins. But everytime a debate between the camps of the fans and critics breaks out, I see that most of the vile hatred comes from the folks who purportedly defend the Gosselins. The critics critique what they see on tv. The fans, however, muster up every ounce of mudslinging venom they can find and verbally attack people they don't know and have never seen in their lives. Jon and Kate Gosselin have some very nasty, mean-spirited fans and it just baffles the crap out of me that they cry "Stop Judging" when they do it more than anybody. I'd be embarrassed if I were you and terribly ashamed that your obsession is more with GWoP than they show itself. When you write your own magazine article with valid proof that defends the Gosselins, perhaps I'll listen. Until then, go take your meds and get some counseling.

  • Nancy

    Kacey, I can answer that question. Kate looks NOTHING like she did when the show first aired. She's a diva celebrity now, celebrity being the key word ( mothering now takes a backseat ). In America, celebrities are critiqued on their beauty or lack thereof. It is painfully obvious she ( Kate ) is channeling Hollywood through changing her appearance, so to me, that makes her fair game for judging. You go on tv and scream "Everybody Look At Me Me Me"…and you can bet your boots people are going to do it even if they don't like what they see. If you can tell me you have never critiqued a celebrity's appearance, I will stand to be corrected. Oh, and Kacey ( really BabyMomma or one of her cronies ), I thought of your posts immediately when I read the one about how vile the fans are. Just sayin'.

  • Gossie

    "However, Rothermel says — AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS PROVE — that Jon Gosselin was fired for other reasons. The STATE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE RULED that Jon improperly did a side job on company time"What part of this FACT is it you don't get?

  • Tracey

    I was surprised nothing was mentioned that either set of grandparents are not involved with these kids. Even the two "NaNa's" that were involved with laundry and babysitting duties are never seen. We were told that "you don't have to be blood to love our children", but I guess if you come bearing gifts, products, services, trips and $$$ you get access to the kids. Keep watching, the twins are being shown less and less and when they are they are throwing some sort of hissy fit and even some of the tups are asking "what are you looking at?" I can't wait for a follow up in ten years about the kids. I bet they aren't anywhere near as normal and nice as the Dilley Six.

  • Andi

    You are so right. John's ex-employer is a bad man and Jon is a GREAT employee. This is all HIS fault. In fact, he's a liar and Jon NEVER lies, normally.Have you all sent in your "love offerings" because the lawsuits will be arriving soon and Kate needs pedicures for her little girls. I swear, Kate could KILL A PUPPY on camera and the ignorant GDNOP stalkers would say, "well, it wasn't really a cute puppy and she was stressed, after all SHE HAS 8 kids and 6 oF THEM ARE THE SAME AGE!!" Sad really.

  • Gossie

    Too bad for the Gosselins Rothermel and the state unemployment office arent bound by the same confidentiality clauses her fertility doctors are. She better hope that true story never sees the light of day.

  • Beth

    …The writer sought input ONLY from the major Gosselin hate blogs… as this the article shows. GWOOP's premise has switched from advocacy for the children to doing whatever they can to destroy the careers of the Gosselins. Their underlying jealousy is so transparent…

  • Courtney

    Finally, someone in the media did some research, and is starting to call Jon and Kate on their deceit and the exploitation of their children.

  • Mary

    Those things don't have a thing to do with child advocacy. But what do you think about all the valid points made as to the child exploitation and the needless stress in these young children's lives? Your argument doesn't hold any more weight than do the arguments about Kate's appearance. It's not EVERY poster over there talking about Kate's appearance so your comments are just smoke screens.

  • julie

    I'm pretty sure the point was that her appearance has nothing to do with child advocacy. In fact, very little of what is said at gwop has anything to do with the kids. It's snark, and snark is fine, but just call it what it is instead of trying to pretend you're on some noble mission.Gwop is a joke, and all of you who truly do care about the G kids have the mods to thank for that. They are more concerned with blog hits as evident by the endless crap that they post. My advice would be, for those who really do care, start your own blog and really try to help these kids if you think they need it. Try to gain a little bit of credibility and maybe people will stop laughing and pay attention.

  • Jen

    In case you haven't yet seen the light, let me make this as easy to understand as possible. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones to act like a nut on tv, that was Kate. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones lying to churches. That was Kate. The people who dislike Kate were not the ones mocking the children and showing them half naked on television. That was Kate. Let's put it all together now, shall we? Kate, Kate and oh yes, KATE. You can't create this stuff out of thin air. Jon and Kate created this situation. Why is that so hard to understand? I'm sorry but these "jealous" complaints and other nonsense are making some of you look quite foolish. If you like the show, like it…who cares? Why must the "fans" come out and attack people who feel differently? If you have nothing to worry about and Kate is really the end all and be all that you want her to be, why should you care what someone else thinks? Nervous?

  • Anonymous

    I really don't understand all the hate about GWOP. Remember back when TWOP was where everyone posted their feelings? GWOP actually picked up where TWOP left off and created an amazing site overall. There are many spinoffs but where would all these other overnight blogs be without GWOP? This article that was published today is only the beginning of the Gosselin empire.

  • !HURRY! a GWOP FAN

    Hi Jessica. Just read you article and have to say I enjoyed every.single.word. BTW I clicked the subscribe button for this mag. If they hire excellent reporters like you then I will show my support by subscribing and hopefully will be able to read more articles by you. Please do a follow up in a couple of months!

  • Roxanne

    what does her appearance, her weight fluctuations/hair do mistakes/visible makeup lines have to do with child advocacy? I have no idea what you are referring to with that comment; however, if Kate feels the need to put her family out there because "their life is the show and the show is their life" You better believe her "fans" or "viewers" have the right to critique her. She puts herself before her children ALL THE TIME on national television (clear to see after last night's episode) and people still claim she is the mother of the year. WHY? That is what I was getting at. There are millions of mothers out there that deserve that "title." Who actually wouldn't dream of ridiculing their children like she does. She does it for show and entertainment purposes. What people forget is that this is NOT a show, these are real people, more importantly, REAL CHILDREN. They will never get back their childhood. NEVER.

  • california mommie

    hmmmm – what will kate say now at her speaking engagements about jon's employment? $1600 for a bodyguard? who does kate think she is 'madonna'?lol the one thing i really love is that queen kate has to fly first class all the way. while all her fan's are forking over $20 cash for a pic queen kate flys first class, gimme me a break!

  • Jen

    The reason why the people who defend Jon and Kate are always on the attack against people who post their unfavorable opinions about Jon and Kate is because it's easier to attack the messenger than it is to refute the message. If the "fans" who are attacking people from various sites (or, simply assuming that anyone with a negative opinion is from said site) have anything to say that refutes the data in the article then why not post it? Clearly this writer did her research, attended an appearance and interviewed the former employer and a few former acquaintances. What facts and or dispute does anyone have with what was written? Because it seems as though the party line from the "fan" sites is to attack, attack, attack anyone who disagrees with the Gosselins and what they have done, but they have, so far, not been able to prove the negative accounts and facts as lies. If you have some differing information or accounts, and can prove that all of these people who have concerns or who have

  • Joy

    PA isnt the only place Jonny Boy goes out to the bars. You both are laughing stocks and worst part is your kids have you 2 as parents.

  • Linda

    Cracks me the hell up that the fans only knew this article existed because they stalk GWoP every second of the day and saw it posted. Now who needs to get a life? I think the fans and Kon's PR team spend more time at GWoP than the critics do. Those goats can't even have a pro- Gosselin forum without ever mentioning what they read at GWoP. They talk about GWoP more than they do the Gosselins, and are far more hateful and nasty than anybody.

  • dianne

    Jon & Kate, You have to know that some of your shows biggest fans are MEN who love to watch your children. STOP NOW!!!

  • Alison

    "Jon & Kate, you have to know that some of your shows biggest fans are MEN who love to watch your children. STOP NOW!!!"But, but, but . . . we have a PICTURE BOOK of the kids to sell! Do you think the "MEN" are going to buy that?" Idiots

  • J.J.

    this is nothing we didn't already know, as far as Jodi, well she's about as bright as The Soup.You ppl need to get real if your going to write an article, write some thing we ahve not heard a million times, and my lord tell the truth

  • J.J.

    GWoP is the worst site on the net, give us a break please, They are stalkers and liars, couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it, but you are right a lot of dumbies do read it, can't comment on it tho, What I know of GWoP is from reading what others have come back and posted like we care, Garbage in, garbage out, thats GWoP for ya,

  • Anonymous

    Because the money she is making off her kids has changed her appearance.

  • Jen

    "Me thinks dost thou protest too much"…..In other words, the so-called fans who have come here to Her Highness' defense have not really talked about the article but have simply attacked people who don't like the Gosselins and/or the show. It's rather telling if you ask me. The truth, or at least the beginning of it, clearly hurts.

  • Carol

    Wow, these two have gone from a cute couple, to an obnoxious infomercial of a show. Hopefully after this, others will begin to talk about the REAL Gosselins. Thanks for your informative article!!

  • Alison

    And thank goodness people are reading GWop! Sad thing is, one day the Gosselin kids may get their hands on it and read it . . . they're gonna freak out and they're gonna ask mommy and daddy (if they're still talking to them) why they didn't do something about it, like shut down the filming of their childhoods! Jon and Kate Gosselin are just greedy, lazy, immature people who fell into TLC's web and no matter the cost, they don't want to get out. They seem to say, "To hell with the kids! Someone get in here and take care of them!"

  • Judith

    Here's the bottom line of all the controversy. The kids need laws protecting their privacy. There are currently no laws in PA that do so. The Gosselin children have no say in what private moments in their lives get aired to millions of Americans. Children need privacy. They need to be protected (by their parents). They are not. The parents are selling a book filled with pictures of their children. How can one justify this? Please stop with the jealous garbage. If anyone should be jealous, it's the Gosselin children who are justified in being jealous of other children who's parents DON'T sell their privacy :(

  • SusieQ

    Wow – I had never heard of this GWOP site but just over the last couple of hours reading, I feel like I have found MY PEOPLE! I always knew there was something 'off' about these two. Thank God it wasn't just me. Thank you so much for posting the page! Now I have someone to talk to about these whack jobs Jon and Kate besides the mind-numbing gibberish I get from the wackadoodle-enthralled-with-the-glamour-park-mommies I run into every Tuesday morning. FINALLY people with sense!

  • Ana

    I can only imagine what Jon is going through at home now that his pictures with women in bars has been spread all over the internet. Ever heard of karma, Jon and Kate? It is is bitch…like Kate!

  • Liz

    BRILLIANT article. Love it.

  • Kris

    You are an angel. I cannot thank you enough for researching and writing such an in depth expose on the Gosselin family. I ache for the kids. I have refused to watch this show for a year now, ever since I watched in horror as Kate put down her boys in such humiliating fashion. Those poor kids are having every aspect of their lives documented and no on can convince me that they haven't paid dearly for it.Shame on you Jon and Kate. Shame on you.

  • Anonymous

    This quote doesn't concern one of the kids being called fat but the poster calls the kids brats. Read this in a hurry. GWoP deletes that which they cannot defend as they did when several of their posters called the cameraman that shot Mady rolling aroubd on the basement floor a pedophile. 12/16/2008 5:28 AM And Hannah smacking Alexis for no apparent reason. B R A T S _______ I would not be surprised one bit if KON encouraged her to hit the others. She is the 'leader' and the 'second mom' after all. Disgusting. Someone else said it was nice to see no Hannag favoritism. It would not be Jon and Kate+8 without that! When they were wrapping gifts she had to defend Hannie when another child (Alexis?) was crying over a gift she wanted to help with. "Hannah did pick that out", said Kate.http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2008/12/december-15-giving-back.html?showComment=1229446980000

  • Megan

    "If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm?"GWoP posted this and took it down Sunday night. Same thing they did with the Penn Mommy stuff.GWoP would make a great topic for an expose itself. LMAO. I can just imagine Sharla and Serena duking it out over whether they are a child advocate site OR just a snarking site.

  • Anonymous

    There was not one thing in the article that wasn't mentioned elsewhere a long time ago.

  • Jen

    If you have some differing information or accounts, and can prove that all of these people who have concerns or who have had negative experiences with the Gosselins, then why not write your own article and do your own interviews. It does not do YOUR cause any justice by coming here foaming at the mouth anytime someone has a negative comment about the Gosselins. The reason why they won't is because it's much easier to just attack people with whom they've never even had a conversation than it would be to go the extra mile and prove this article inaccurate. Attacking the messenger while resoundingly ignoring the message is a classic sign of someone who is upset about the truth coming out and has no other defense.

  • Gossie

    "What facts and or dispute does anyone have with what was written? Because it seems as though the party line from the "fan" sites is to attack, attack, attack anyone who disagrees with the Gosselins and what they have done, but they have, so far, not been able to prove the negative accounts and facts as lies." …. BINGO. I have never once read one logical defense of the Gosselins.

  • Lynn

    As an HR person I knew Jon's reason for getting fired was false. One can't be fired for having a lot of kids – it is illegal. I am so glad his former employer spoke up. I would sue Jon, truthfully, and I am not a sue-happy person. Please keep the articles on this family coming. Their time is done adn kids need privacy and Mom and Dad need regular jobs like us mere mortals.

  • Alison

    They had a good run.LOL

  • K

    I don't care about GWOP, and I certainly think some of the fans of this show are a bit off their rockers, but I found this to be a pretty interesting article. I used to love this show until all of the vacations came along. It's not about cute kids and the parents who struggle to raise them anymore. It's about Kate Gosselin being INCONVENIENCED by cute kids and the vacations she goes on for the sake of the show. The show just isn't fun anymore.

  • Gossie

    "But, but, but . . . we have a PICTURE BOOK of the kids to sell! Do you think the "MEN" are going to buy that?" Idiots" — Sure they'll buy it. The pages will be stuck together three days later but Katie will have that cool $20 in her pocket – all that really matters to her.

  • Rose

    If the author was so eager to display the facts, why did she only use hate blogs as her sources? She actively posted in every negative blog on the Internet for people to come forward with their "dirt" about the Gosselins? Why didn't she interview Paul Petersen, who has not spoken in public about the Gosselins since last October? This is irresponsible journalism at its best… a rehash of rumors and inuendoes from sites who actively denigrate the Gosselins every day. Philadephia Magazine should be ashamed…

  • sara

    If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm? {{{{sound of crickets}}}} Yeah, that's right. That's what I thought. One of you followers of the Kult of Kate actually tried to say you emailed J&Ks PR people and the PR person said it wasn't Jon in the photos. LOL! There's something quite pathetic about grown women LYING to cover the butts of their favorite reality TV child exploiters.

  • alison

    I have a feeling that Jon and Kate Gosselin are going to blame their bad decisions on the network. I wonder if Discovery will be included in their lawsuit against TLC . . .

  • Katie

    I was about to post pretty much what Jen just said. What exactly is everyone supposed to be "jealous" of? Admittedly their children are adorable, but I bet you most moms think their children are much cuter. Am I jealous that Kate treats her husband atrociously? The way she talks to her husband embaresses me even. Should I be jealous that her husband has no…uhh..can't stand up for himself? HAH! Hilarious. Oh man nothing is sexier than a spineless whiny husband. Oh you are right..I am completely jealous that they are UNEMPLOYED and somehow *magically* own a 1.3 million dollar home..sarcasm. Oh yes to the person who said whoever "attacks" JKP8 is on "disability" HAHAH the IRONY! Then WTH are they on?? Living off of donations and being unemployed? So you pretty much just described Kate. Can't support herself and "homebound" ( I assume meaning stay-at-home mom). 'Nuh-uh!,' you chant. 'They don't embaress their children on TV for money!' Then tell me, how do they make the money? You tell m

  • Merry – Bohemian Moon

    MerryRozPosted by Merry | Feb. 25, 2009 at 3:48 PMCOMMENT:I was really hoping for more from this story. The amataurish writing didn't help. I felt like I was reading a piece about Britney from OK Magazine. While I realize this publication isn't the Atlantic Monthly, it was still a disappointment.I don't know why you couldn't have stuck to the few main issues that need attention (children in reality tv, the poor parenting, etc) instead of presenting rumors about Beth or commenting that Kate dresses too young for her age. Where you paid by the word? LOL.******************************Bwahhahhaahhhhahaa!My name is hardly a secret, lol! THIS is why no one takes the supporter sites seriously.GWoP is a clear force on the web. They have been quoted by CNN and have been mentioned a number of times in articles. Why? Because they are well known.Now, as for Musings From the Moon, most everyone knows my name, so it is hardly a major revelation or some sort of "expose"

  • Gossie

    "Because I think that the people who spread unsubstantiated rumors and engage in harmful speculation mostly based on their own imaginative interpretations should be called on their crap-"…Jon and Kate are more than welcome to 'call anyone on their crap' — oh wait, that might require them going to court and PROVING things being said about them are lies…problem, problem, tsk tsk. They CAN'T do it.

  • Hope

    which is something I never thought I would do – but am thinking of when the twins & tups might write a book in the future – reminded me of a quote I saw from Danny – during the Partridge Family years, he was acting like a brat & his mother told him to "go to your room"…he said "What are you talking about? This whole house is my room – I paid for it" Oh Kate – your time is comin'….. :)

  • Katrina

    I don't get it. Didn't Jon & Kate write in their book Multiple Blessings that Jon was fired because the former boss didn't want to pay insurance? If that's a lie why wouldn't the former boss/company be filing a lawsuit?

  • alison

    I think maybe because the former employer was a friend of Jon's parents. Maybe he hired him out of pity, and out of pity didn't want to embarrass Jon's dad and mom. Probably just fed up with the lies now. And Jon's dad has passed and his mom doesn't seem to be in the picture any more, so maybe he decided to come forth and clear up the lie.

  • Moons

    Brava Jess for a well-written, thought provoking article. Hopefully the powers that be will enact legislation to prevent this exploitation from happening ever again.

  • Merry

    I was really hoping for more from this story. The amataurish writing didn't help. I felt like I was reading a piece about Britney from OK Magazine. While I realize this publication isn't the Atlantic Monthly, it was still a disappointment.I don't know why you couldn't have stuck to the few main issues that need attention (children in reality tv, the poor parenting, etc) instead of presenting rumors about Beth or commenting that Kate dresses too young for her age. Where you paid by the word? LOL.

  • Megan

    "If the posters at GWOP are only there to snark on Kate and trash Jon and the kids, why then did they make no mention of Jon's recent bar hopping in Reading- complete with photos? Hmmm?"This information WAS posted on GWoP. They took it down Sunday night (same thing they did with all the Penn Mommy stuff). GWoP would make a great expose itself actually! LMAO.

  • sara

    When Jon and Kate were bringing the tups home two at a time (I live in Central PA) they called a press conference each time. They plugged the website, cried poor and worked the Jon was fired tale at each one. Mr. Rothermel did have Jon request a retraction in at least one newspaper article where he said it. As far as the book? Since Jon didn't mention the employer by name that might be how they got away with it. To the poster who said GWOP didn't mention Jon's hangin' with the kids in the bars… the mods didn't post a topic on it or post the pictures but some of the posters did mention it. Just thought I'd clarify since the 'fans' are so quick to shred anything GWOP does to pieces.

  • alison

    If all you can do is come here and talk about GWoP posters, well, you're not helping out your idol, Kate Gosselin. By posting comments about the show (things that happened on the show) people will come here to read the article and google the site you keep harping on and find out so much more. More than they'll want to know about the Gosselin family. Nice work.

  • Kayla

    Thank you for a well written article. The article lays out many details regarding a sad family in a logical, orderly fashion. I used to be a fan of the show but became troubled by the behavior of the parents and the continuous stream of freebies they were happy to snatch up, as well as the way Jon and Kate changed from what looked to be hands-on parents when the kids were younger to a complete lack of nurturing and parenting.

  • S

    What an thorough, well-written article. I'm sure you will be called a lot of nasty names by the pro-Gosselins (they have such class) so I wanted you to know I what an excpetional job I think you did. Someday the Gosselin children will thank you.

  • Jen

    Even though Gwop claims to be against the show, they do weekly recaps. In one of them, the writer stated she wished that Hannah would get LICE and have to have her hair cut off. These are the type of people our girl reporter dealt with. Garbage in. Garbage out.

  • kelly

    Finally, a journalist who does her homework and two parents who sacrifice their children at the altar of financial gain will eventually have to (dare I say it) work for a living and pay all those therapy bills coming their way – they are the scum of the earth and trust me folks they know it – all the teeth whitening in the world won't help these two – dumb and dumber – done and done

  • Gossie

    I could eat a can of alphabet soup and CRAP a more coherent defense of the Gosselins than GDNOP & that wacko stalker "Baby Mammy" manages to pull together in their feeble attempts.

  • sara

    Hey Kate fans! Spend less time bashing the people at GWOP and more time attempting to arrange a sit down interview with Kate. Maybe she'll invite you to the manor for tea and a tour of the grounds! Show us a Kate you all obviously see but we don't. Find some fans Kate or Jon were gracious to on occasions other than the book signings or church chats. Do something to credibly convince us rather than attack the free speech of others.

  • Liz

    Queen kate and her memories – here is one for you Kate, your children are all over the internet in all stages of undress for every pervert (i mean fan) to see – job well done from a woman we are supposed to take advice from? are you kidding me? these two parents should be behind bars, only way those kids can get away and stay away and sponsors should be ashamed of themselves, TLC you are boycotted forever!

  • Angelica

    Hate blogs? Seriously? That's how you want to represent you research and "journalism" skills? Read what they are posting over there. They are not concerned child advocates by a long shot. They're scary stalker-types and the mods are astonishingly irresponsible. That pretty much shoots your credibility right there.The article itself is a regurgitation of speculation and assumption found on said hate blogs and one arguably biased source. The stuff of tabloid journalism. Hope you're very proud of it.Why do I care? Because I think that the people who spread unsubstantiated rumors and engage in harmful speculation mostly based on their own imaginative interpretations should be called on their crap–early and often. No, I am not posting a 100 page treatise challenging the information because I am not privy to their personal life and I don't know the details. Neither does anyone else who is not personally involved. If you state it, then YOU are responsible for proving it and citing cr

  • Fiona

    GDNNOP has banned me from their site. Come to my site so you can share your aweful stories about Nina and her minions! http://gosselinopinions.blogspot.com/

  • Andi

    I think you are talking about the "Fans" here. NOBODY from GWOP would paint their kitchen a certain color, pull blades of grass from their yard or expect (and wish, hope and pray) that they will meet someday and be BFFs.

  • Caryn

    I am still laughing at this article 10 minutes after I finished reading it. This is an article of reguritated hate blog rhetoric. This is truly one of the worst examples of "journalism" Ive ever read. Jessica, Id love to know where you got your degree, they need their accreditation to be revoked immediately. This is an opinion piece, and should have been labeled as such. The funniest part was Jessica claiming GWOP is well written and thought out.Ive never seen a bigger bunch of illiterate morons than on GWOP. Jessica Remo should look up Mike Finkle, I have a feeling her career is following his destructive path.

  • Jenna

    Thank you, Jessica, for your thorough and accurate article. I couldn’t agree more.I used to like the show. Kate looked like a normal, frazzled mom, and Jon worked hard to provide for his family. Just like any normal family…except with 8 kids. Now, I see two unemployed faux-celebrities. Kate looks like she spends more time getting her face and hair done than with her kids. And the way she treats Jon – jeeze, I would have been one messed up kid if my mom talked to my dad like that. She treats him like a child. Poor kids. I was a shy child, and I think I would hate my mom if she made me be on camera for hours on end, non-stop, for years – ESPECIALLY if my mom went to the hair salon instead of putting the money I earned her into a savings account for college. What a horrid invasion of the kids' privacy. I only hope nobody teases them at school when other kids see Kate insulting her children and the shots of, say, constipated Colin or Mady with the embarrassing dental cheek-sprea

  • Quinn

    Greedy, greedy, greedy…that's what Jon and Kate are. How can they sleep at night exploiting their children the way they do? They should be ashamed of themselves. I'm happy to see Jon's former boss speak out and also the former babysitter at the end of the article. Jon bragged that he would never have to work again? Horrible! Those kids are the ones suffering by having no privacy and normal childhood. Not to mention the countless number of weirdo fans obsessed with them. How scary! How anyone could do all this to their children is beyond me. Also, the fact that this is legally allowed in our country is beyond me as well. What happened to child labor laws? If they adopt a child (for ratings I'm sure) that will be horrendous.

  • Kids Deserve More

    It's too bad there is so much gossip and innuendo in this article. I think a thoughtful, legitimate article on the impact to children on a TV show should be interesting and, quite possibly, impactful. Instead, this article is full of gossip and innuendo. It even references a hate blog as a source! No wonder Jon and Kate refused to comment. How about a thoughtful article on internet hate and stalking? That would be insightful too. Here’s some recent “information” on the hate blog, a key (maybe only?) source for this article (1)Kate is a drug abuser: “if Kate really is that skinny, wonder what other desinger 'mother's little helpers' she's into buying these days…” and (2) Jon has moved out: “Jon, if you really have moved out and, as other blogs indicate, are separated from Kate, I'm begging you to get the best lawyer money can buy.” Don’t forget the all important discussion of Kate’s haircut, the refrigerator and comparing certain kids to serial killers. Oh and what about callin

  • dianne

    How about the super fan who has KATE DAYS!! She yells at her poor real life husband,"Are you standing with me or against me?" Pretending to be Kate is so wierd Baby Momma.

  • Ruth

    Have you ever noticed so often when attacking other's abilities your own show through?

  • E.

    GWOP managers were neighbors of the Gosselins before they recently moved. They are not just regular people who started this blog, but they have an agenda. Below is a direct quote from the GWOP site (and it has recently been removed from the site):FROM THE QUESTION AND COMMENT SECTION OF GWoP:Serena said… QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes.8/06/2008 8:50 PM After taking the above quote off the GWOP site, the managers now refuse to admit that they personally know the Gosselins and are/were (until the Gosselins' recent move) neighbors with them. It is simply a personal fight by jealous people, who have tried to use the web to bully and defame their neighbors.It is too bad your reporter did not do her homework.

  • George

    Why all the remarks on the Octuplet mom if looks didn't indicate something? Yes, Katie Irene has had a freebie tummy tuck and had the nerve to ask for her boobs to also get lifted. She's sporting a time consuming dye and hair job. Outfitted head to toe in designer duds and $300 handbags. Wearing high heels to run ahead of her children to pick out their Christmas present of dogs that she named. And told them NOT to expect any thing else under the tree (so what was put on lay away at Kmart?) Funny Jon was shilling for Microsoft claiming a family gift of a laptop was all they would get other then stocking stuffers. Now I can see why Katie has that $1600 a day bodyguard every where she goes. Freaky Fans who claim she's going to be their next BFF and do BIG things (they JUST know it!)Thanks for telling the truth about Jon's job loss. I'm so tired of that lie they tell about it being in regards to insurance. Lies, lies and more lies from the Greedy Gosselins.

  • Jen

    For years, this man has endured having the public think that he fired Jon for having too many kids, and I'm so glad that he finally had the chance to speak up and set the record straight. He was a friend of Jon's parents, which is likely how Jon got the job in the first place, and this is how they treated this man? They have no shame. I hope that the Gosselin's are brought to court for this, but it likely won't happen since this man clearly tried to take the high road and let it go. But one can only be called a liar for so long. He had no choice but to explain the situation. Anyone who would purposely lie in a church, after being paid thousands of dollars about a man who have Jon and job should be punished in some way. I feel that the churches have definite grounds for a lawsuit. Recoup that money and damages and put it toward a good cause. How anyone can defend these people after this fact has been brought to light is beyond me.

  • Kate

    A little birdie told me Baby Mama was a fraud. She's taking the extreme, uber-fan route to make a mockery of the Gosselin support sites. She's a GWOPPER at heart.

  • Josie

    Baby steps, baby steps. This is good. Thanks for the article. The more the word gets out, the more frequent it gets out, the more the word will be spread about this FRAUD. Jon and Kate Gosselin are the biggest low-lifes on earth. Anyone to exploit their children like they have will pay a heavy price in the end. THANK YOU FOR THIS ARTICLE!

  • Anonymous

    Nobody takes the fansites seriously because the site owners haven't been watching the show or reading other Jon and Kate Plus Eight sites for as long as some other people have. They are not privy to all the information available. It has nothing to do with other sites being mentioned on TV. The BabyMama person can't spell and uses poor grammar. She claims that the Dana Hoffman posts from the Reading Eagle are lies. She said that she Kelly Di Nardo's article was probably not true. She made a post all about how she had thousands of hits in one night yet none of her posts have more than 50 comments or so. Her site is so poorly done that it makes GWoP look better by comparison. Any site that posts about GWoP shows a level of obsession that is scarier than anything the most delusional GWoP poster has come up with.

  • mEGAN

    Even though Gwop claims to be against the show, they do weekly recaps. In one of them, the writer stated she wished that Hannah would get LICE and have to have her hair cut off. These are the type of people our girl reporter dealt with. Garbage in. Garbage out.

  • Anonymous

    Even though Gwop claims to be against the show, they do weekly recaps. In one of them, the writer stated she wished that Hannah would get LICE and have to have her hair cut off. These are the type of people our girl reporter dealt with. Garbage in. Garbage out.

  • Janice

    I agree with Jen about Jon's former employer. The man has remained silent long enough and let Jon and Kate profit from lies. The Gosselins have had no problem bilking thousands out of their hard earned money in churches and donations. Enough.

  • Ruth

    I too, am glad the truth came out about why Jon was terminated. I will never forget about an interview Jon did and the person interviewing him said he was a director of IT department for a company. Now let's be honest can you see Jon directing people. If he was the director he was the only person in the department.

  • jennifer

    i heard gwop has a secret message board that makes fun of the gosselin children. bad gwop.

  • Steph

    The only thing better than your article, Jennifer would be an update article from you in about a year to see if anything has changed – for the better or worse. Great job!!

  • Anonymous

    Linda: Most of what Jessica has compiled in this article has been published elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Only "Time" will tell.

  • Kate

    "QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes." So tell me E., does this mean we can trust the validity of everything posted on GWOP or not? I'm so confused. What am i supposed to believe. Please tell me…some of it is true and written in stone, but yet some of it is all rumor, innuendo and speculation…? Which parts? How will I know? Better yet, how do YOU know??? Do tell. I'm on the edge of my seat.

  • Anonymous

    Her name is "Magazine Reporter at Gmail" – not Jennifer. LOL. Hopefully they will get the name right on that Pulitzer Prize they will be awarding.

  • Allissa

    I am impressed with the effort you took to research your facts to verify what many "fans" have called lies. Someone has to get the ball rolling on stopping this sham. It's because of Kate, crazies like the octup mom (and her crazy doc) are breeding babies in litters with the plan to "sell" their kids' privacy for big bucks. What can the fans say now about Jon "losing his job due to no medical coverage"?? No, turns out he's a lazy bum who saw a way to ride the gravy train. I wish those 8 kids would be taken away and given to caring family members or adoptive parents. The Gosselins have ZERO parental instincts. Again, GREAT article!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Whay do an entire blog about a site you got booted from? And why just GNNNOP? You've been booted from every Gosselin site there is both for and against the Gosselins. Your posts are instantly recognizable. You might want to change your screen name. Again.

  • Linda

    Most of what Jessica has compiled in this article has been published elsewhere. Check the archives of the Reading PA newspapers. Jon and Kate have also created a record in their television show, interviews, and Web site. Don't blame the messenger journalist for the message. Jon and Kate can't keep their stories straight, and their PR company is busy cleaning up after them. I'm appalled that television viewers see these people as role models.

  • Anonymous

    Well said…!

  • Mary Jane

    I was once a fan of this show — especially in the very early episodes. But little by little, I saw Jon and Kate changing, becoming very materialistic. I think what caused a "click" in my mind was the episode where Jon went to have a hair transplant and Kate accompanied him — leaving her sick children with Aunt Jodi. I could not understand why Kate would not stay at home with her sick children. If Jon was having heart surgery, that would be one thing. But hair plugs? That's when I began to look and question more closely. There was another episode where Kate put a sick boy out into the laundry room with a bucket – that was so shocking to me, and still is. I realized that she doesn't have a warm heart and I began to really feel badly for those children.I appreciate this article. I urge anyone living in PA to contact their state representatives and ask how a bill could be introduced similar to the law existing in California, to protect those children from exploitation. Jus

  • Chrissy

    E. – you may or may not be right about about a couple of the GWoPPers being neighbors. I lean towards "no" on that one, but anything is possible. That said, it's very clear that the "mission" of their site has nothing to do with advocating for children in reality television (one of their founders, "Sharla" confirmed this)and much to do with giving a forum to jealous and angry women with too much time on their hands. Sad.

  • janice

    WOW, to see the facts is incredible. Hopefully, this very eye-opening article will bring an end to the exploitation of the kids. Jon and kate are nothing but greedy, liars using their kids for financial gain. I hope this is the wake-up call to those supporting this horrible situation. How can ANYONE admire the Gosselins after this??? Sad, sad, sad

  • The Other Kate

    Princess Boards, Bitter But Brilliant — You're kidding me right? I mean, seriously? You gotta be kidding. …okeydokeythen. When they get 2.8 MILLION hits on their 'brickbats [that] are surprisingly well-written and thought-out', call us. Until then, you're a jealous hag.

  • Kate

    What were you thinking legitimizing the crazies? Really? You think GWOP is irrefutable and well-written, rather than the laughingstock of the internet? Sure, if you, uh, solicit them for interviews.The real story here is who's behind the site, and I've always wondered if Julie "Truth Breeds Hatred" (friendly blog name, btw, glad I'm not related to you) was the only family member behind this charade. I just can't understand people with no connection to the show getting this worked up. The history of these people on the internet is truly frightening and I'd want a $1600/day bodyguard too if my name was Gosselin.Newsflash, nutjobs: this still won't get you on Wikipedia, but thanks for playing.

  • The Other Kate, you know the o

    Shut up Kate. We all know Baby Mama is the laughing stock of the internet. Well, her and Guinipig.

  • Deana

    The Dionne sisters were born in 1934, the first set of natural quintuplets to ever survive into childhood. They were born into a poor, French-speaking farm family and there were five living previous siblings. When the quints were four months old, the province of Ontario (Canada) removed them from their parents. Ultimately, legal custody went to the province, which, in the depths of the Depression, made the quints into a money-making sideshow. The quints may have brought in a half-billion in tourist dollars to Ontario in the nine years they were wards of the crown. In fact, they were more of an attraction than Niagara Falls. What this meant for the girls, though, was that they lived in a house called "Quintland," where tourists were shepherded through, and the girls could be seen through one-way glass. I remember reading how one of the girls, now an elderly woman, talked about how they knew there were people behind the glass and behind the netting of their playground, watching them

  • Deana

    What this meant for the girls, though, was that they lived in a house called "Quintland," where tourists were shepherded through, and the girls could be seen through one-way glass. I remember reading how one of the girls, now an elderly woman, talked about how they knew there were people behind the glass and behind the netting of their playground, watching them play. The girls didn't like it, but they had no say and no choice in the matter. And, if you were to ask the surviving sisters, they'd tell you flatly that they hated it.

  • Deana

    I won't go into the further sad history of the Dionne sisters; Google is your friend. My point in recapping what happened to the Dionnes is to ask pointedly: Have Jon and Kate Gosselin turned their sextuplets into the Dionnes of the 00's? And if so, what needs to be done to ensure that the children are able to live a normal life?

  • Cathy

    I've often thought about the stories I have heard about the Dionne sisters. As was said, all sorts of bad things happened to these girls. It was and is, today, a very sad story. However, all the "bickering" and "back-stabbing" in the world is not going to help the situation of "Jon & Kate". Truly, I can't stand the program and haven't been able to watch for a year or so, but the problem is the viewing public who think all of this is OK. These children, the 6 little ones, are being "used" in the worst sense of the word. What kind of people are they going to grow up to be? If anything Jon & Kate should show the "supposed" love they have for their children by ending the "Farse" Jon & Kate + 8. It's horrible…and all of you just bicker about Jon & Kate and their Fans? People WAKE UP…This is all about 8 innocent children. The older two are already exhibiting behavior that needs to be addressed!!!!For God's Sake, if you want to make a differnece write to the Pa. Department of

  • Gail

    unless the donations don't match!It would have been nice if Jessica could have talked to Kate's family. Kate told her sister to "choose" between Kate and family or the Parents. Then Jon lies in an interview and says Kate's parents aren't involved in ANY of their grandchildrens lives.Lie. There are pictures of Thanksgiving with kate's sister and her family with grandparents.

  • Julie

    I know a little about the show and the family, but certainly do not have the time to watch all the episodes or spend hours on the computer reading about the Gosselins. I found the article interesting, with some very good points made. Maybe the information has been said before, but unless you have hours upon hours to read it all, you wouldn't really know that. Thanks for gathering the information and presenting it for those of us who don't have the time to do it ourselves. Nice job!!

  • Anonymous

    Shut up, "The Other Kate". Laughing stocks, crazy's whatever you want to call them – that's *GWoP* according to the Princess Boards, Bitter But Brilliant and other non-affliated Gosselin boards. Hint: these boards are laughing at you crazy GWoPPers, not with you!

  • juliebrown

    Sure, same thing. Whatever you say. Did you know you are NOT the first sock puppet to make this assertion? It's was lame six months ago, now it's lame as well as boring. Yawn.

  • Former gwopper

    GWOP? Are you kidding me? They made up this ridiculous story about some "Gosselin volunteer" with "insider" info…really nasty stuff…where is that in this article? It all turned out to be fake, some atheist in CA pretending she has the inside scoop on all these TLC shows. She's crazy, GWOP is crazy.

  • Jen

    Princess boards are laughing at people who don't like the Gosselins? Oh, stop the presses! That changes everything! We take it all back! God forbid some people who literally have so much time on their hands that they read "other" boards and make comments about other "commenters" are making fun of us! As if there isn't anything more loserly…not even having the guts to have their own opinion and post it and defend it. No, please…continue to troll the boards looking for things to make fun of. Much easier than simply coming up with an orginial thought. News flash…no one is laughing harder at the Princess boards than they people they *think* they are offending. In fact, for a good laugh (and to verify that this whole thing is really insane…so insane that there is this six degrees of separation thing going on where someone makes fun of someone who makes fun of someone who makes fun of someone…and so on) I visit and marvel at the complete lack of originality present on that board. L

  • Alan

    I appreciate the honest approach you took with this article. For those who feel J&K did not get a fair shake on this it was offered. They declined to make a statement and have done this in the past. Even forgetting the blogs the true story of J&K is not readily available to the average viewer or to the people who book them at venues. Finally this article did not address Jon and his recent outings at the bars so she is being polite in that respect she could have made that an issue. I think that in 1 yr this show will be history and if it helps the children being off TV thats great.

  • Katrina

    Don't you understand that this article may just start the ball rolling to protect the rights of the Gosselin children? Why would that be such a bad thing? I get that you might not think they are doing anything wrong, but no matter, what would be so horrible if there were laws to protect them and other kids on reality shows? Maybe some good will come of this article. Why are you all in such an uproar over this one article? I didn't even know about any GWOP article or group before this but it's you people foaming at the mouth about it that is giving it credibility. You sound like the nutjobs. Chill out.

  • Jodi

    While I was hoping for a little more depth to this article, it was an excellent start. It's a pity to think that these eight kids (the twins included) are being exploited by their parents. It is sad to know that while so many people in this world are unable to have children of their own, the Gosselin's are using their children for their own selfish means. Oh, and to all those who defend Jon and Kate Gosselin and their actions… why don't you encourage them to file a libel case against the reporter and this magazine? The silly fact is that they can't… Why, you ask? Well, because it's not libel if it's the truth. Thank goodness that Jon and Kate's lies are being exposed.

  • Jenna

    To the above commenter called "GWOP = Penn Mommy = Possummomma = LIARS" : Word of caution – you sound like an immature brat. The phrase 'some atheist' immediately lets us all know what a grossly closed-minded person you are. My country is 85% atheist, and I'll bet any money that our HDI is much higher than wherever you live, and that our crime rates are MUCH lower. So is 'atheist' supposed to be an insult? Hmmm… To me, you sound like a '50s countryboy pointing out 'them blacks' in town as the cause of all the trouble.

  • Gail

    It seems like the ones that attack the messenger are afraid to use their names. Interesting.This article quotes SOURCES. Jon's employer, places they were supposed to speak at, nanny, and she just "mentions" GWOP. You sheeple are so obsessed with slamming GWOP but you never mention that Yes, GWOP had the correct picture of their new house MONTHS before it was public knowledge. Some snark on gwop is called "letting off steam". We are so tired of Kate exploiting and humiliating her children so once in a while somebody will comment on her horrendous grammar or her orange tan. Big deal. The main focus is stopping the show so the kids can have a normal life. Shame on us!! Also, no where does it state that gwop is a "Christian" website. I am not a Christian and I know many others that do not identify themselves as such. HOWEVER, I've always wondered if all good Christians talked to their loved ones as if they were garbage? What about "honor thy mother and father" — oh, unless the donatio

  • L

    Jon's former employer should sue Jon and Kate for defamation. Former co-workers have stated in other interviews that during the time Kate was pregnant that Jon would rarely show up at work and when he did show up he was distracted and on the phone or on the internet the majority of the time. Also it would seem to me that Figure 8 productions and TLC want the Gosselin TV show to be as popular as possible for as long as possible. So to achieve that goal it is in their best interest to make the family as likable as possible. If the show we see is the best footage they have can you even imagine what gets left on the cutting room floor? Kate calling the kids even worse names than ugly? Kate speaking to her husband even worse? Jon and Kate Plus 8 has turned from the reality genre to an unscripted series, such as The Hills or the Larry David Show. Therefore if it is now an unscripted series the participants should be required to hold a SAG card and the children should receive some pro

  • Tammy

    Thank you so much for your article! My family had initially liked the show and have noticed the change in Kate's attitude towards not only Jon, but,well, everything! You would think that with all the things that they are given, they would show gratitude but it's just the opposite. They expect it! I have become so disgusted watching how many free things they are given. What really gets me is that I can't even go through Walmart or Target without hearing announcments for their DVD or the new kids music cd. It's absurd! Hopefully TLC will listen and pull this show from their lineup. We no longer watch the show and maybe people will realize in the real world people have to work for a living, not exploit their children to make a buck.

  • Andre

    Not many of us go to these fan and not fan sites so we don't see any of those stories or comments, we aren't involved in that fight, but we do read articles and an article like this brings it to the mainstream. I watched a few early episodes of this show and thought they were a cute family, this past year I tuned in to a few and it is a very different show and they seem like a completely different family. Definitely not watchable for me. I won't bother with them anymore, but advocating for the children would be something of interest to me. And I would be willing to check out sites to see if there is something more to them other than complaining about them or defending their actions. I would be interested in true child advocacy.

  • Leslie

    Posted by Renee: Prove to us that Katie Irene didn't "use[d] her nursing connections to score Clomid, overstimulated her ovaries, and basically raped Jon in order to get knocked up with multiples and end up where they are today." How in the hell would anyone prove that? It's not up to the sane members of society to disprove insane rantings and conspiracy theories. One of the GWOP faithful has announced that she is in the process of accessing Kate's medical records — a clear violation of the law, but what the hell, it's all in the name of the almighty TRUTH. PS. Last night I gave birth to a baby with four heads and two tails while cleaning my moldy refrigerator. (It's a Whirlpool.) What, don't believe me? Prove it didn't happen.

  • J.J.

    Do you really believe what other ppl say on these blogs? do you really believe that the suppose to be lawyer who just commented earlier on here is really a lawyer? well if you do I have a ocean front piece of land in Arizona to sell you. I have not read one thing in these six pages that has not been talked about and where did she get her info? from asking the bloggers to send it to her, which means you,I or any one could/and did send her a bunch of 1/2 truths and spectulations and she made a blog about it, sounds pretty much like Pennmommy/possum mommy, who by the way GWoP ppl and Julie, Jodis sister defended to the hilt as telling the truth,GWoP ppl said great things about Pennmommy and you all think they (GWoP) are credible? just tells me you are gullible and will believe any thing you hear that is bad and nasty, not only about Kate but any one they trash, Shame on you. And Jessica double shame on you!!!!

  • jimmycrackedcorn

    They had an issue with me some time back and I replied far more often than they posted… they deliberately slanted it all in their favor. Stupid cunts.

  • Twitter.com/McCaw

    This article summed it up beautifully. There's nothing left to do but severely pity those poor exploited kids and hope it ends ASAP!

  • J.J.

    Christine, you are a smart girl, yes she was asking for info (trash/dirt/mud/garbage and what ever to get a story on the Gosselins, well she did and this is all it is,As if there is not enough hate blogs going on already, seems like the media, every body wants their own 15 minutes of fame and spotlight, well it wasn't even worth reading, Jessica should have stayed with the GWoP b/c any time you need ugly I guess thats where to get it, you see their name all over the blogs, but it is not always good, From what I gather as long as you talk trash on Kate you are welcome other wise you are deleted, and these women (If you can call them women) get praised for it,They talk just as bad about the Duggers to, They remind me of a group who used to kill ppl just b/c they didn't look the way they thought they should KWIM? So just b/c the Duggers dress different and have a large family they talk about them, but I bet Michelle Dugger is more of a woman than all those &^%$#*& at GWoP will ever be.In

  • Mel

    WOW this is an awesome true article!

  • Sarah

    I started out a fan of Jon and Kate. For all of the reasons this article states, and more. I agree it was nice to see "realness" in a couple. However, I sadly watched the show go down hill, fast! Sure, I agree that there are some people on the Gwop site that take things too far. However, for the most part, they are dead on. What worries me more then Gwop, are those people that are willing to defend Jon and Kate to the death. You have to be able to see things for what they are. If you don't like the Gwop posters, don't visit the site. If you don't like articles that you think shed a bad light on Jon and Kate, don't read them. However, for the benefit of the children, don't ignore the thought of what all of this is doing to their kids. Don't ignore what you see a half an hour a week on your TV. If their parents aren't going to be their greatest advocates, someone has to step in. Maybe that "person" is really going to be a public that no longer supports what is going on, and starts saying

  • Sarah

    no to the Gosselins. Most people watch they show because they love the children. Maybe if we really love the kids that much, we'll choose not to watch it, and to give them back a free gift-the gift of their childhood! They deserve that!

  • Anonymous

    Julie knows GWoPers because she used to live in the same town as one of them, was passing through on vacation and met one member.

  • Rumor Monger

    I want to know what GWOP wants to know…What happened to Beth?How much do they make/epi?Where are gran and gramps?Why is Hannah the biggest tup, hmmmm?Why don't they have a net on the dog breeder's trampoline?Where are the puppies?Is Kate too fat or too thin?What happened to Penn Mommy?Is there an organic chef named Kate?Are the babysitter's shorts too short?Does Kate take free Gap clothing to a consignment shop (and where is it so I can get me some)?Did the puppies go home in pet carriers?Does Kate use lay-away for her chritmas presents?Who REALLY made the soup?Was the water pitcher free?What does Kate call the back of her head (GWOP calls it the porcupine butt)?Why did the paint the trim FIRST?And most importantly…how many refrigerators does one girl NEED?Side note…did Fiona get banned from GDNNOP? Well, they have to be the last to run out of patience with that one. She's been kicked out of everywhere.

  • abbey

    It is true that the founders of GWOP personally know the Gosselins and lived by them before they moved. It was talked about extensively on the New York Post site. At first the managers tried to deny it, but then people found the quotes from their site. After this was exposed, they changed the web site, but a few of us copied all the quotes from the GWOP site admitting their close ties to the Gosselins. I'm glad E. posted the quote here. This writer, Jessica, should have done as much research on GWOP as she did on the Gosselins. I'm not a fan of Kate's, but I think GWOP is just as bad as she is. They are mean, jealous high school girls who never grew up.

  • HaHa

    "People who hate GWOP…go right ahead. Follow the anti-Gosselin people everywhere we go. Post about GWOP. Go crazy. Foam at the mouth and sound nuts. Because the people on the fence who have no idea who or what GWOP is eventually find their way there eager to see what it is you are so desperate to "reveal" about GWOP and why you act so paranoid. It brings them more visitors, and more people to tell the true story of the Gosselins and their numbers only grow and grow. You are doing GWOP the best favor ever by acting ridiculous, so please, don't let me stop you! Foam away!"Ah, I love irony. Guess what? I wouldn't have a clue about what brands of anything the Gosselins use if the freaks at GWOP didn't foam at the mouth over every product ever seen on the show. Ya'll are doing a fabulous job of advertising for Whirlpool, etc.

  • Laura

    Bravo! What a well written article!! I could only imagine how much more it would have contained had they allowed an interview. I used to be a big fan of the show but I too feel it has gone too far. I actually feel stressed out after watching it. Thanks for writing an article that explains all the unanswered questions viewers have. This has to be a start in the right direction for those children.

  • El

    As someone who fell in love with the Gosselins at first viewing, I have grown increasingly alarmed and disturbed as the seasons roll on, particularly the past two. There is no more "reality" in this reality show. How many Americans can afford a $1.3 million home? Home many Americans clothe their kids (all 8!) in matching Gymboree outfits? How many parents would sacrifice their childrens innocence and privacy for the sake of the almighty dollar? Not many, but TLC has found just the pair. Jon and Kate are not good examples of Christians, as they claim to be. They consistently talk down to each other, their kids, and others.America, stop this madness and turn the channel. TLC wil get a clue when 3 million viewers stop viewing this wreck of a show and family.Mady has one hell of a tell all one day…"Growing Up Gosselin"..

  • ThreeFarmers

    I love, love, love, this article.

  • sara

    Their fans are obsessive to the point of stalking. Last summer, the Gosselins put a sign in their front yard for about a week stating something to the effect of STOP!Do not stop in front of our house.Do not take pictures.Do not stop and talk to us.The Gosselins have been traveling with bodyguards for months and months now because they don't want to be bothered by 35 year old women with no lives running after them to give them toys for the kids. If you approach the Queen or Jon while they happen to be out alone, you will be dismissed. They want you to adore them with your $$ and that's the extent of it.

  • J.J.

    You all think this is such a wonderful article, what has she said that has not already been said a million times? You ppl just are so full of hatred and busting at the seams to get any kind of trash to talk about, Geez read the news pape or watch CNN,All this talk of most of you defending GWoP, yes they have said terrible things about the kids, then when there was a big stink made about it they started deleteing it, "super Mods? are you crazy or just blind, as far as aunt Jodi, oh my God biggest fake cry baby ever, and you think she loved those kids? no she was all about the money, when that didn't happen she didn't happen any more she only wanted the fame as much as Kate did, she sure never said no about going to Oprah did she? She is a liar just like her sister and Kevin is a low life, he's just like Jon and is told what to do by his wife. And how can you praise this article, it is nothing new, she did little to no research at all, as far as the suppose to be employer do you really b

  • a

    J.J. Can you give us a link to this 'dig' for Kate's records? I'd love to see it.

  • Penny

    Yes there will always be questions about Katie's fertility story since all of us who have under gone treatment, work for a RE or an insurance company find it strange she wasn't made to do a year of trying on her own before getting treated. Unless she told the RE they'd been trying before the marriage? Great morals there for a Christian if so. And she acts like she had such a horrid time getting pregnant but she was pregnant of the second time AFTER being hospitalized for overstimulated ovaries which NO reputable RE would have proceeded with insemination on a woman with overstimulated ovaries. Why not what until the next round? It's not as if she'd been doing IUI for months and months without success. Real fishy. It's interesting reading the old Reading Eagle archives and how they disgusted their community back before TLC ever started broadcasting their greed to the nation. Nice how at the tups first birthday party, no thanks from the Gosselins for all they'd been given. Jus

  • The Other Kate

    J.J. AKA Baby Mama – Let's pretend it's Kate Gives Jon a Little Sumpin Sumpin Night and off you go to do whatever it is your husband allows after he has drank a bottle of bourbon. Please.

  • Jen

    People who hate GWOP…go right ahead. Follow the anti-Gosselin people everywhere we go. Post about GWOP. Go crazy. Foam at the mouth and sound nuts. Because the people on the fence who have no idea who or what GWOP is eventually find their way there eager to see what it is you are so desperate to "reveal" about GWOP and why you act so paranoid. It brings them more visitors, and more people to tell the true story of the Gosselins and their numbers only grow and grow. You are doing GWOP the best favor ever by acting ridiculous, so please, don't let me stop you! Foam away!

  • KP

    "Because the people on the fence who have no idea who or what GWOP is eventually find their way there eager to see what it is you are so desperate to "reveal" about GWOP and why you act so paranoid." Amen! And what they will find there will not be all the hysterics they proclaim, but TRUTH.

  • Laura

    Finally a mainstream publication has the "balls" to expose Jon and Kate Grifter. The truth hurts, doesn't it.

  • JulieBrown

    "Princess boards are laughing at people who don't like the Gosselins?"……Gee Jen, a little defensive, aren't we? Did someone forget to take their Prozac/Effexor/whatever this morning? Don't worry, I am sure the HOURS and HOURS you spend on your little hate blog will cheer you right up! :)

  • Cynthia

    Great article. Like most folks I started out loving the show but now am just so sad for the kids. Loss of privacy, loss of family and friends who love and protect you (Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin, Beth, Nana Janet). But hey, Kate has her big house and Jon has his place in Colorado so it's all good. Or as Kate would say, "All mine, as far as I can see".

  • J.J.

    Jen, I feel sorry for you dear, I can see right now you are easily persuaded, I guess you let pennmommy get to you to, with her sick son and dying and all that. Go ahead and play with your nasty lil' group and see where it gets you, I guess you ppl are so hungry for attention that you'll follow any thing, well as it is said if you don't stand for some thing you'll fall for any thing,and you sure are, First and foremost it is really none of your business, it's no money out of your pocket and please don't say the kids are abused, I think all you moms need to look at your own kids and see where you have went wrong, remember when you point a finger there are 4 more pointing back at you. Go ahead praise those trash mongers tell everyone how great they are and how many hits they get I'm sure there are a lot of ppl who love to hate just like you do.

  • TravisNoodle

    Are crazy cat ladies. They haven't raised children and yet they feel they know what's best for OTHER people's children. Hey, 3 Farmers, when you are going to write another hilarious recap about lice?

  • Stefanie

    I'm glad that someone finally published an article on this family that shows the other side. It answered some of my questions. I found it weird that Jon was fired b/c of the health insurance issue. They had no income so why not file for unemployment. But you cant get it if you were fired. Now the whole story comes forward. GWOP isnt the only place were place talk about them, its everywhere. Anywhere there is mention of the Gosselins, there is negative comments to follow and I noticed that comments from supporters of the show are becoming less. A popular blogging website has some angry bloggers from the Berks area. A few people have gone as far as posting the address of the Gosselins new home. I checked the validity of the address using yahoomaps from an aerial view and yes the house shown matchs the house in the real estate ads. I have contacted TLC 3 times regarding this familys address being posted and have heard not a thing back. I know the issue wasnt resolved b/c the blogs are sti

  • J.J.

    Leslie that is funny, best thing I've read here so far, You nailed it girl, I hope who ever gets Kates medical records goes straight to jail and the hospital is sued and shut down, yes this is exactly what I have been saying about GWoP thats exactly what they do, they are stalkers and brag about it, now why in the hell would we want Kates medical records? why is that any of our business? In fact I'm calling the hospital and telling them exactly what is being said and then i'm letting TLC know about it,I thought we were suppose to comment about what is on the show, not go dig up stuff in the medical files and put it out there for all to see, but as I said thats what GWoP does,

  • Ravello

    Where can I go read about the connection between the hate blog and Penn Mommy & Possummomma???? Not on GWoP, that is for sure. They neatly erased all the lies they printed from Penn Mommy after another blog outed her. Such ethical, upstanding ladies, aren't they?

  • Jen

    For anyone new to all of this: The post below is indicative of Kate's fans. What wonderful ambassadors they are for the Gosselin family. You might notice that the ugliest comments come from fans, not people who dislike the show. >>To JenPosted by JulieBrown | Feb. 25, 2009 at 8:38 PMCOMMENT:"Princess boards are laughing at people who don't like the Gosselins?"……Gee Jen, a little defensive, aren't we? Did someone forget to take their Prozac/Effexor/whatever this morning? Don't worry, I am sure the HOURS and HOURS you spend on your little hate blog will cheer you right up! :)

  • rutro

    Anon @ 8:08, that sound you hear of crickets chirping is JJ aka BM scurrying off to write Kate a letter and tell her how great she looked Monday night and how she only aspires to be as orange one day. She's lying about the records.

  • lisa

    Thank you for saying what others want to say and have been thinking for a very long time.

  • Jodii

    LOL Jon, I see you wrote a hundred comments titled the same thing–Poor Journalism! Nice try. Be more original. You are so obvious. And saying over and over, 'so this is the article we were waiting for?' So obvious you lurk daily at GWOP. So sad. You guys have dug your own grave. Go away. Your shrew is waiting at home for you.

  • The Real Travis Noodle

    I AM ON TO YOU! STOP NOW! STOP USING MY HANDLE TO SPEW YOUR HATE!!!

  • JJ

    The media centered life style the Gosselins have chosen for their children is unusual to say the least. To the fans out there…no one knows the long term ramification in regards to the Gosselin children's mental health. To that point it saddens me that parents have chosen this life for their children, which will likely and unfortunatley turn out to be a scientific experiment in terms of human development and growth under intense media pressure and fame. This is certainly not a life I would choose for my children. It is unfortunate to say the least.

  • Cocoa

    Ok I am NOT a fan of Jon and Kate and I have even blogged for GWOP a couple times, but it is painfully obvious that the author of this article is either one of the horrendous, Nazi-moderators of GWOP or a frequenter. She has literally taken every point word for word from that website. Absolutely nothing new was revealed that hadn't already been posted there a million times except for the part about Jon getting fired. I mean come on. I was really looking forward to some new factual info that was supposed to bring Kon down as promised. This is nothing but a copy/paste from Gosselins Without Pity. Disappointed!!

  • Amanda

    Can you people PLEASE take your hatred of GWOP somewhere else? The rest of us who don't post on any of your stupid sites really don't care, and are enjoying this article. You're really looking foolish.

  • Tamara

    Thank you so much for this well written and well researched article. Something MUST be done about this awful show and the terrible situation these children are in. Hopefully, this article can play a part in getting things started. I quit the show long ago, and hope others will do the same. I will NOT support the exploitation of children, nor will I support two user-parents getting rich and famous by pimping out their kids who are just too young to have a choice or know any better.

  • J.J

    why do we have so many on here afraid to put their name to their comments? Seems like it's the defenders of GWoP ppl. Well ofcourse, except for # Farmers, poor pitiful women.as for Fiona, I see she is still running wild, with her wicked tongue, Well at least GWoP ppl taught her well.By the way I'm not sure who BM is or baby moma, but you are some sick women.Fiona, quit using Jenna Roberts name on your blog, she is too much a lady to waste her time on you, She is to sweet to let your name pass her lips. So Quit it

  • Jeff
  • Gail

    When I point one finger, 3 are pointing back at me. I have a thumb.

  • TravisNoodle

    "Finally, a journalist who has the guts to print the truth…" Ha. That may be the best one I have heard all day. Our young Miss Jess isn't what I call a "journalist." Remember her tag? MagazineReporter@gmail.com. Priceless….

  • Maria

    Finally, a journalist who has the guts to print the truth and expose Jon and Kate for what they are – opportunists and con artists.

  • Jennifer

    I am the co-founder of PROTECT 8. We area group of people hoping to bring awareness of the lack of laws to protect Reality show children. Our mission statement has 8 goals we have set to help create laws to protect kids from being used as entertainment and for revenue. Our Blog is PROTECT8GROUP@blogspot.com. Please consider joining to help put Child back in Childhood.

  • Jenna

    Can you people PLEASE take your hatred of GWOP somewhere else?. No, sorry, we won't be doing that, but nice of you to ask!

  • J.J. (yes it is J.J.

    The remark about Kates records was from someone on your site GWoP that said they were trying to access them, so why don't you just ask them to tell you?Rutro, you are an idiot, I am J.J. and no one else, is that one of the tricks you use, well ofcourse it is.You had a good teacher did you not? well about 10 of them at least,The employer of Jon, where is the proof the employer actually said that? And GWoP ppl being neighbors of Kate are you serious? that is such a lie,Lordy Be you ppl will believe any thing. That what they did is not called neighbors legally, it's called stalking.Julie you are right poor Jen is off her meds today, and she lost in la,la, land with her peeps. You nailed itCocoa, So true and well said.

  • Andrea

    I know how you feel. I was really excited when Serena initally posted. I thought the story was going to run in a well-known magazine and would focus on the child exploitation angle. Boy, was I wrong. It's my own fault, I should have quit GWoP after the Penn Mommy fiasco. Maybe I'll finally learn my lesson.

  • TravisNoodle

    "I AM ON TO YOU! STOP NOW! STOP USING MY HANDLE TO SPEW YOUR HATE!!!" Doesn't feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot? Anyway, TravisNoodle is on my birth certificate and I intend to keep using it. Enjoy!

  • J.J.

    Ravello, if will google her name you will find out a lot of stuff, it's sad, rediculous and lies.

  • Anonymous

    Anyway "new" to this will realize both sides are a bit crazy! Only one side is acting morally superior and acting like they alone have the truth. Guess which "side" that is, my darling. Don't forget your meds!

  • Elizabeth

    Wow – after wading through tons of emails here, and at the risk of being referred to as housebound or whatever, I'm waiting for the Jon and Kate supporters to defend Jon and Kate Gosselin rather than attack the author of this article or the GWOP website. So far, the only defense of Jon and Kate Gosselin has been to personally attack critics of the show. Tell us why Jon and Kate are good parents and why it is good for their kids to be filmed four days a week (this according to Jon and Kate and not a fact I've come up with just because I'm housebound.)

  • k

    No child should EVER have to wake up in the morning, go online, and see this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqQTznyBqj4Disgusting.

  • Caden Canyon

    I feel the most sorry for poor, neglected, miserable Maddy. When she shouted out "I want a dog who will only love me!", it spoke volumes on the permanent damage those greedy, lazy monster Jon & Kate are doing to her. Mark my words, this girl will be a slut when she's in her teens, desperately aching for severely misguided "love" some horny teen boy — or worse, MAN (can you say "daddy complex"???) — will be more than willing to shower on her. If Jon and Kate don't *listen* to their troubled child and *act*, they'll be crushing to sole of an innocent human being… THEIR CHILD, just so they can get freebie tummy tucks and hair transplants. Nice!ipodtouch@yahoogroups.com

  • Mom of

    i fele sad that this artcle come out. Your all jealous. That is truth. I read on GWOP and they scare me. I have voo doo doll to use so back off. One day Kate call me and I talk to her. I keep calling her until then.

  • Janet

    Yeah! FINALLY! Some really said what was lacking in this article! I'm a very active mom, having had a child in the industry and I, myself, pulled a child theatrical labor law out of the closet in New Jersey, written in 1962 which needed some dusting off a few years ago by the Attorney General's office, to protect child actors. Missing in this article is the specifics on how these children having made producers very rich, have made the parents very rich and are labled only as "participants" in a reality show..not deemed employed because the labor regs in PA only address juveniles who are employed in the entertainment industry! Therefore, no labor regulations followed these children. Void were regs concerning safety, work hours (24/7 with permanent lighting in their home) schooling addressed and their welfare. Product placement in their home, advertisers buying commercial time, all focused on the children, producers rolling in $$$ all complimentary of minors who received no compensation

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for letting everyone know yet another of your names,Fiona.

  • Anonymous

    Don't bother with Protect 8. Bohemian Moon is one of the followers. The site is so new it doesn't have comments yet. The Gosselins have been exploiting their kids full time since 2007. Where were you then ?

  • GWOP Blogger

    highondegrassi, andrea, kirjava, nancybeth77, margojata even your own moderator is threatening to shut your board down. I really believe its 2 girls posting under "many" names. Your personal attacks against the woman at GWOP is sick. You spend your days reading our posts and then cutting and pasting them on your site. Then you spend hours analyzing our comments. Perhaps you all need to get a life? Take the tin foil off your heads and allow them to breathe? No matter what you say or how many personal attacks you make against us at GWOP we are committed to stopping the exploitation of the Gosselin children.

  • Tracy

    I am saddened to say that Philly Magazine has lost a great deal of credibility for me after reading this article. The article was fine until the mention of Gosselins Without Pity. While I believe they had good intentions at first, their site has turned into a garbage dump of made-up stories and assumptions, with people competing over who can come up with the most outrageous story and claim it as fact. I am sure you have received many emails praising the writer for exposing the "truth" about that family, saying their "scam is up," and that Kate is an evil shrew of a woman who deserves nothing that she has. I believe the writer of the article will now be deemed their "savior" as she has aligned herself with their ultimate goal of "bringing down" that family. I hope she is up for the challenge as Gosselins Without Pity have shown in the past that anyone Gosselin-related is subjected to their harrassing on a daily basis. And my guess is that many of them cannot even point out Phil

  • Common Sense

    Why on earth are people attacking the author of the article, when the Gosselins were given ample opportunity to respond to all of the allegations in question? The isn't a tabloid; if there were untruths THEY WOULDN'T BE PUBLISHED for fear of prosecution. Good lord.

  • Betty

    Thank you Jessica for writing such a good article on what con's these two KON's are. You have uncovered quite a few lies they have told to churches for years. Bravo!

  • Elizabeth

    This article shows Jon and Kate for who they are. Jon's lie about how his employment ended caused a lot of ppl to pity them but now we have the truth from Jon's boss. I think every lie that Jon and kate have spoken is coming to the forefront. Since they are no longer hurting for money, it seems to me they could start paying back the state of pa for the medicaid assistance they received that first year. I also think the grandparents should be ready, once this all comes tumbling down, the grandkids will need you.

  • Beachlovin

    I am unsure as to why on earth this article was published. Does Philadelphia Magazine not fact check? The article is full of gossip from a hate blog. The comments about Beth are especially perplexing, why on earth would Jessica Remo write rumors as if they are fact? That's bad journalism. Its really no wonder why journalistic integrity is long gone, with "reporters" like Jessica Remo around.

  • Teresa

    Moderator or Author. Blog called CrownPrincessMarieChantalofGreece-Gosselins without Pity. They are spamming this board with negative comments about GWOP and Author of Article. highondegrassi, andrea and others from that board are responsible for the attacks on this board. Go to page 219 of their own site and see what the board monitor has to say. Page 225 highondegrassi makes comments about taking Travis Noodles Nickname. Please do something about this.

  • Xiolin

    Everytime a negative article is printed about Jon and Kate Gosselin the fans come out of the woodwork. I have witnessed this so many times it makes me sick. It also takes the attention of the lies Jons and Kate tell the public and exploitation of the Gosselin children. The author did a wonderful well written piece. Now the fans of Kate have arrived to show their displeasure. Unfortunately J&K fans are delusional just like Kate. If you think that by attacking GWOP it will stop these type of articles being written you are very wrong.

  • Janet

    http://www.pde.state.pa.us/k12/cwp/view.asp?A=165&Q=105983To the author and to everyone focusing in on Jon or Kate or any adult. Please review the Child Labor regulations in the state of PA. Not one regulation covered these children. Not work hours (3 allowed in one day -no waiver even if parents request one), work conditions (children in hot studio lighting all day) EARNED MONEY, who earned this money to purchase this home? Who is selling the products and WHO made Pennsylvania some nice money bringing this production into their state? I believe the children wrote a sign saying no more cameras! Who is listening to the children and shame on the Labor Dept and State of PA for not realizing the minors WORKING in reality TV shows.That should be the next article without the mention of Jon or Kate!Its all about WORKING these children and people making a profit off of them, including their parents. Exploitation in one big package.

  • Teresa

    margojata get a life! Just because I left the board and refuse to be a part of you and highondegrassi's nonsense you decide to act like a total idiot? Thanks for pasting my posts to your board I'll e-mail them today over to the mod's you've just given me more evidence. Please go back to your board and quit trolling GWOP and this site. Have you ever been diagnosed with a mental illness? I ask that seriously because stalking and trolling boards is jusss … 'weird' lol!

  • ex-member of CPMCoG

    I want to say how sorry I am for the abusive posts I have seen written about you from the girls at CrownPrincessMarieChantalofGreece-Gosselins Without Pity. I was a member of that sad group until yesterday. I do not agree with the personal attacks they have done to you. They do not know you-have never met you, but have decided to make you [yes you] a target of their inbred hatred. Do you want to know why? Because they read all you posts at GWOP. You are the most intelligent, articulate and funny blogger on that site. If they can shut you up … well they've won. They will move on to Serena or someone else on that board. I apologize for my involvement and I hope by outing these sick individuals you will know where the attacks are coming from and by who. Again I apologize. You don't deserve this. This article opened my eyes, thank you Jessica.

  • Pam

    Thank you for a well written article. Reality shows have featured only adults in recent years and this new gig the Gosselins have created has no laws protecting their children. One daughter has been diagnosed with migranes – and the article clearly states that a neighbor pointed out that the industrial lighting installed for filming could show the house from space. It is evident from this fact alone that the children are being harmed by the 3-4 day a week filming. If the laws in California protect the children from situations like this, why not national legislation protecting children from exploitation before more families get in on the obvious gravy train the Gosselins have created.

  • Alia

    The sad thing is that TLC will not pull the program (or protect the children) until they have a replacement show ready to go.It would cost TLC too much money in sponsor dollars to pull it.It's all about the almighty $$ – just ask the Gosselins. If they didn't have their children working they'd still be online asking for handouts from unsuspecting church members, family, friends and the State of Pennsylvania.Jessica, I know you're taking heat for your research. I'm sure that is part & parcel of your job.You did well.Thank you.

  • Janet

    Dear TLC, So you managed to make a huge profit off of minors and exploit them to the max without child labor laws getting in your way!How much of a profit have you made off of these children who were used to entertain the public on National TV, who were used to sell advertising time, who are actually selling products for adverisers as they play with them on film and you've invaded their home for more than the allotted 3 hours per labor standards. Best of all, you didn't have to EMPLOY 8 minors! Why, because this was not "scripted"..I beg to differ as each episode had a theme. It was not simply the every day life of a child in their home.Well TLC, how was it taking candy from a baby? Hopefully we'll correct this mistake in PA and every other state who hasn't included minors working in reality TV shows and making a profit for the production company and State.

  • Anonymous

    The moderator on the princess board was writing about double and triple posting. Do you not know what that is? There was nothing at CPMCoG about highondegrassi stealing anyone's name. She commented on it. That's all. You seem to have the level of intellect that I have come to expect from GWoP, from the founders of it on down. I would think highondegrassi and others would have something to bitch about since the lowbrows at GWoP think it is so clever to steal princess board member names. That must be approved by the mods themselves since they let those comments go through on GWoP.

  • Nancy

    So before the tups were even born Jon had plans to pimp them out? Sick, sick, sick! Those tups had jobs before they were even born. What loser parents those two are and this article has outed them for the deadbeat scamming greedy parents they really are.

  • Denise

    I am a former fan of the show. I don't post over at GWOP, in fact, I myself just stumbled across it after being so livid with the show I needed to find out why it's still on! Jessica, wonderful job. We need more articles like this to get the ball rolling and expose these people for what they are and protect these children from further exploitation. After the octo mom gave birth, I couldn't help but think she saw how the Gosselins went from rags to riches and thought "gee, I can do that too"! Shame on these people who use their kids for money. It's got to stop!

  • Teresa

    I have personally spoken with the board moderators [phone and e-mails] and discussed with them my concerns on the board. I'm just going to say two words to you "slander" and "libel". They are going to be monitoring your posts very closely, so if I were you I'd be very careful on your personal attacks.

  • Jo-ann

    I found the princess board but can't find the moderator threatening to shut it down or them admitting to using other names. Were they removed? I see on 219 that the moderator is taking them to task regarding double posting, which of course means doubling up posts on that board instead of editing, not posting on two different websites.

  • Nina

    I stoppped watching!!! As a parent of multiples myself, I initially found the show cute and inspiring. I used to think if this woman can deal with 8 kids I can deal with my far fewer number. However, the family started being portrayed as celebrities. It got to a point where every show was about them doing something "priviledged" box tickets, snow trips, free hair plugs !!! All that was just ridiculous and I realized that they can't be the struggling family that was raising children that was captivating due to their normalcy. Parents should not be making their living off their children. The show really just needs to be taken off the air. If they want to be good parents, they should be grateful for all that they have made (financially) and allow their children a private and normal childhood.

  • Marion

    Because of this very necessary and important piece and a brave journalist and magazine, I am going to subscribe. Thank you for standing up for the children.Someone has to defend and protect them from greed!blamingoftheshrew

  • Teresa

    Yes comment has disappeard . Was posted on Feb 22 @ 6:oopm. Then the post about double posting replaced it. Good thing moderator sent me a copy for my records. 3…..2…..1 You will be shut down very soon ladies, enjoy the fun while it lasts!!!!

  • Jo-ann

    Teresa- what is the phone number for the moderators of princess marie chantal of greece?

  • Teresa….LMAO

    Ahhh Haaa! SurvivorSucks…Jon and Kate Plus 8:Who pooped where? If you pooped CALL OUT! We at Survivor Sucks like to shut up trolls who scammer around trying to stir up sh!t. margojata has left the building…..LMAO.The V.

  • Common Sense

    okay these girls are insane. 225 pages of nothing but posting other people's posts from another blog?http://princessmc.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=Books&action=display&thread=2545&page=225snarkers, snark thyselves.

  • Common Sense
  • Lynn

    "I have personally spoken with the board moderators [phone and e-mails] and discussed with them my concerns on the board. I'm just going to say two words to you "slander" and "libel". They are going to be monitoring your posts very closely, so if I were you I'd be very careful on your personal attacks."You might want to think of those two words in relation to the Gosselins, who I'm guessing have some high-powered lawyers at their disposal. A reasoned discussion of child exploitation is one thing, accusations of Kate raping Jon, physical abuse of the children and animals, stealing drugs, etc., etc., are quite another.

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  • Jo-ann

    Teresa – could you post the phone number for the Princess Marie Chantal of Greece moderator? I am not able to find it on that website.

  • Teresa

    Please continue to cut and paste all my comments. Then make your horrible nasty remarks. I live in a state that is actively pursuing complaints of cyber-bullying and cyber-harassment. Everytime you do it ka-ching ka-ching!

  • Anonymous
  • Lana

    It seems people are more worked up over the blogs about this show than the show itself. Here is a thought–if you hate the show..don't watch and don't talk about it. The more press this family gets- good or bad is just money in their pocket. Shut down all the Gosselin blogs, let the show get cancelled and we can all move on. I am sick of this show and people talking about it!

  • alison

    All of you grown-ass women on here fighting back and forth about some pitiful blog sites you apparently live on need to take your cat fight somewhere else! This is a genuine news article with facts and supporting statements from witnesses and you've managed to ruin it for people who want to know the truth about the Gosselins. So, PLEASE. If you have an ounce of class left in you, move it to your own blogs! Thanking you, in advance, from the folks who don't want to read your crap. And good job, Jessica. You did a very good thing by exposing the lies about Jon's former employment firing. I hope the hardworking church members think twice before putting a $20 in the love offering basket next time Jon or Kate dare to show their faces in a church. Despicable people, using "God" as their way out of obligations so they can take more money for their lying/speeches.

  • Teresa

    Just read your last post [pg 225]. You sure did run out of there in a hurry. Not so anonymous anymore, eh? Once I posted your name you sent an e-mail to your moderator sayin "its not me, I swear!". Run….but everyone here now knows who you and your 'friends' are lol. I also sent you 'mod' some of your posts from today. Stop with the bullying and harassment now.

  • Jo-ann

    Im afraid that this meltdown you are having will make them laugh at you even more. I just read through 10 or so pages there and while they are copying GWOP posts and mocking them, that isn't illegal. If you were posting with them until yesterday, didn't you know what they did?

  • J

    A few things should be pointed out about comments regarding this article. First of all Philadelphia Magazine is a nationwide publication. I believe that satisfies the "mainstream" argument. I don't think that the comments that are made after the article either help or hurt the article. For example: Half of the ignorant comments that were posted on sites like CNN after stories were written during the Presidential Election. Does that mean CNN is not credible? I doubt that. The second point is that need to be made is that just because GWOP was mentioned in the article it doesn't mean that they were the sole source for the article or even a source at all. All that was mentioned was that the site exists and what is on it. Many people contribute to articles and prefer to remain anonymous. Obviously the writer tried to contact the Gosselins and was declined interviews as stated in the article. Finally, magazines do not publish information in their articles that is not verified or else they w

  • Anonymous

    Those aren't the mods, Einstein. The princess board is hosted. There is nothing in their entire site to get shut down for. If it were so easy to get hosted boards shut down, the seekrit board would have shut downa long time ago. You don't know enough to use the contact info for the people who own the board that is on the princess board itself? The Pro Boards.com info? I'm lauging at you, not with you.

  • J

    Finally, magazines do not publish information in their articles that is not verified or else they would be sued. A team of lawyers does the fact checking process. Argue what you want about the Gosselins, but the article is based on verified facts.

  • Casey

    YOU TROLLS ARE PATHETIC! And shame on this Jessica person for TROLLING hate sites trying to drum up as much slander on this poor family as she can. We do not know the REAL reason why Jon was fired. There is no proof of this claim. This person has been contacting a hate site for weeks and this article is an embarrassment to this site. This is no mainstream publication, are you kidding me?

  • Rebecca

    I'm sorry, but there could be 100 comments here and I still don't know what to believe. This article is very one sided and basically sounds just like those people that dislike the family so much and go on those sites just to bash them. I really wish they didn't link it there. I don't believe at all that this story has any sort of negative impact at all. In fact, I feel it makes them more intriguing and will make people watch their show even more! This was the big reveal? The one all the people that hate them have been waiting for? What a complete letdown.

  • kerry

    Jess, 95 percent of the posters (excluding the blog fights) are behind you 100 percent – do a series of articles and expose all of their lies and manipulations/where is the children's money? etc. your pultizer awaits you – their silence speaks volumes don't you think?? Their PR firm is spinning, no amount of money or talent can ever repair their "bought and paid for" public image – they are DONE

  • Anonymous

    The owner of ProBoards is the final authority on what is posted or not. Mod or not. His decision ultimately.

  • Anonymous

    >>Those aren't the mods, Einstein. The princess board is hosted.

  • Anonymous

    Was written: Those aren't the mods, Einstein. The princess board is hosted. Response: Who do you think the board is "hosted" by? ProBoards, duh. That is what hosted means. ProBoards admin decides what stays and what goes and has final say. Boards are hosted at the admin team's discretion.

  • Jen

    Given that the author offered the Gosselins the opportunity to give their side of the story, I can't see how this article was not written with the intention of being balanced. Whatever the outcome of the article, it's based on the people who were willing to talk. The article might have been very different had the Gosselins spoken up and allowed their side to be told. The author can only use the facts given by people who were willing to be spoken to and contribute to the article. If anyone wants to blame someone for the article seeming slanted, they have the Gosselins to blame for that.

  • Jane

    If this article was untrue, then why didn't TLC and the Gosselins speak to the reporter to give their side? FYI – many of the Gosselin non supporters are not jealous and are just stunned that this show continues to air with the child abuse that is evident week after week. That the Gosselins as producers choose to air it is disturbing.

  • john

    it is about time someone exposed these two moronic alleged parents for the lies and manipulations day after day – their time of reckoning is coming folks and it is will be in the form of eight very screwed up kids – boycott the sponsors and TLC, keep your eye on the prize which is cancellation and let the kids out of their parental "contracts"

  • elizabeth

    kate and john your time is up – was it all worth it? your lies are exposed for the world to see and you had better return those donated computers before your kids understand the depth and breath of your exploitation it is no wonder your families could not stand idly by and watch your "sham" of a family – excellent job Jess please do a series on these lunatics and give the kids back their childhoods – keep up the good work

  • Mae

    I yet to come across a blog, article, or comment that actually shares documented facts about Jon and Kate, or has a balanced view of the family. This article is no different than any other biased, opinion and hearsay based piece out there. The mention of GWOP ruined the credibility of this article for me; that site is so hate mongering that they refuse to post comments that are anything but slanderous of Jon and Kate. I tried to post a comment to their site that questioned some of the “facts” being posted in comments, and they refused to post it. I certainly don’t think Jon and Kate are perfect parents or partners, but I don’t understand the bias towards that family. And yet I am sure there will be millions of comments justifying that same bias. The power of free speech is something to behold!

  • Ruth

    We are a young country that has evolved in our perception and ideas. When we feel our citizens are unduly be treated unfairly we create a law. Laws that provide fair treatment to all of our citizens. To those of you that think Jon and Kate are doing a good job, why would you mind there being legislature to protect the children? If you love the children like you say you do, why wouldn't that be important to you? If you love Jon and Kate plus Eight just for the entertainment factor you should not mind there being laws to protect the children.

  • Rennette

    Thank you so much for shining the light of truth on this show. I like many others became a fan of the early shows but I have in recent years become very disappointed in the direction this show has taken. Unfortunately most of us outside of Pennsylvania only hear the TLC version of their lives and this it would seem is a far cry from the truth.

  • barack

    Ok ladies, time to get off the computer and get jobs. Whether you are GNOP, GDNNOP, Serena, Fiona, TravisNoodle, or asswipe, you are all INSANE!!!!!!!!!!

  • Susie

    What is going on with this family. I personally do not think they set a good example in any way. I'm tired of watching them flaunt their freebies week after week when I, a single homeowner, works 40 hours or more a week and can't even dream of buying those things. With people out of work, and others struggling, I don't think this sends a very good message. I also find the way this woman treats her kids and her husband appauling, especially when one can tell just by watching that some of the kids could benefit from extra attention once in a while. The couple themselves act more immature then the tups.

  • TERESA-LMAO

    WE at Survivor Sucks have taken a vote. Next time you decide to spam a board and harass the posters we will post your personal information all over the net. Yes we have infiltrated your slimey group and have names, numbers etc…And will gladly share the info with anyone you decide to smear. So beware [we are watching you]. Now lets have some FUN!

  • john

    you are publicity driven whores who have pimped your children out to avoid working so where is the press conference going to be held refuting this article? lord knows neither of you work, no Q&A from investigaive reporters that you cannot review before hand? You and your PR posts here do not count – when and where? I will be there with bells on as will my colleagues from across the country – your silence speaks volumes – those poor, poor, kids

  • Mary

    I am from Reading,Pa and 1st hand saw the way this family scammed the community. I dont understand why they feel that they are entitled to all the free stuff cause they had 6 kids? They are lazy & selfish and it has only gotten worse…now they have body guards..condo in Utah..a million dollar home..free trips..free clothes..chef..free furniture..1st class air..1st class hotels…in this day of $$ problems..people losing thier homes daily..the Gosselins are a disgrace to society. The small 6 are spoiled..the twins are miserable..Jon and Kate are horrible to each other and their families. Hopefully more "true" articles will be written..family members will speak out and this show will be canceled and the Gosselins will have to PAY BACK everyone they've scammed.thank you for helping the children

  • Carmina

    I just want to say that I LOVE the Princess boards. They bring the best/worst of the misogynistic insanity that is GWOP and mock the hell out of it. Which is really all you can do, when you are dealing with the trailer-park shut-ins that make up the majority of GWOP's posters. Another thing – in addition to regularly insulting the Gosselin children by calling them fat, stupid, mentally retarded and wishing lice on them, the posters and mods at GWOP occasionally venture into racism – they call Jon "Prince Ka-Ching", which is their lame version of a pun – a play on his Asian heritage and supposed money-grubbing. There are other examples that indicate that many of these women perhaps are not the most sensitive when it comes to race relations. One wonders if their fawning over the Duggars has anything to do with how very lily-white they are.

  • Kim

    As a long-time fan of the show, your article put to words what I have been thinking for over a year now. I was a huge fan because I have four boys and a busy home and I could relate to Kate. I excused her rudeness because she was "overwhelmed" and I admired her organizational skills. Now I find her rudeness to her husband inexcusable and hard to watch. I question what kind of mother doesn't let her children eat the cupcakes they worked so hard to make on their birthdays and who doesn't let their kids name their family pet? I used to admire her mothering skills, but now I see a Mom who barely interacts with her children. She cooks and cleans, but has her husband do all the interacting with the children (playing, showering, putting to bed). There is nothing more important than being present for your children. I hope she learns this. I wish this family all the best, and I hope they turn off the cameras real soon. I won't know though, because for the first time in three years, I w

  • Anonymous

    I posted the WHOIS because someone asked for the PHONE NUMBER. Not for the email address.

  • Anonymous

    No, geniuses. Someone upthread asked where all the emails were being sent to. This person claimed to have sent email and evidence to the address in the Whois. They claimed "I have personally spoken with the board moderators [phone and e-mails] and discussed with them my concerns on the board." The article only came out yesterday. They would be lucky to get an answer at the Whois address in such a brief period of time. I doubt that they did. Many addresses in the Whois are P.O. boxes, from Mailboxes, etc,and the like. many people use fake addresses so as to obsucre tgheir identity. Some loon crying over a perceived insult on a hosted bulletin board would be a good example as to why. This person didn't even have enough common sense to look at the TOS and the contact info at ProBoards.com. THAT is how the ProBoards people wish to be contacted. I never said that the mods would shut the Princess board down. That is ProBoards decision but this Teresa never even bothered to contact them in

  • Carmina

    The most depressing thing to me about all of the Gosselin brouhaha is the realization that America is chock full of stupid women. The way these GWOP folks throw around the words "truth" and "fact" is amazing. Two simple words, two simple concepts. Yet these mouth-breathing trailer-park morons do not understand what they mean. The article was "factual"? How? It quoted, for instance, Jon's former boss. Does that mean that the former boss is telling the truth and Jon is lying? No, it does not. I weep for our future, knowing that these dumbasses are pushing out dumbass kids of their own. The lack of intellectual rigor is APPALLING.

  • Anonymous

    the standard prescribed protocol. Stop all the well-meaning posturing and defense of nasty mean uneducated old recovering substance abusers old enough to be your grandma. They sure wouldn't do it for you.

  • Anonymous

    Don't worry. Most of the GWoP people are post-menopausal

  • Sherp

    I love the show and kids. Jodi and Beth were interfering with production. That was foreward of them. No wonder they are off the show. Not interested in new tots either. How many kids shows can a person watch and the fat ones, Ugn

  • FX

    **We do not know the REAL reason why Jon was fired. There is no proof of this claim.*** Did you read the article? Jon's former employer is quoted and there was a court case and Jon lost! Kate has lied continually in Churches and you have the nerve to say, "We do not know the REAL reason why Jon was fired. There is no proof of this claim." THERE IS PROOF! I am late to commenting about THIS article but why has it become an attack on blogs? If somebody posts at a certain site it doesn't mean that they believe EVERY SINGLE THING posted at that site. The "Love" sites are stories of stalkers hoping to be Kate's friend. I think the authorities need to have these people watched so they don't try to attack Kate or get a lock of her hair.

  • Carrin

    There are a group of people who blog against the group of people who blog against the Gosselins. How mature. Perhaps you all have too much time on your hands.

  • Sharon

    I prefer to go to GWoP to read the recap than watch the show and support the Gosselins. Statements attacking the GWoP site are unwarranted. What have those women done other than voice a concern for the children? If the Gosselins take offense, then there must be a reason.

  • alison

    See, I would have just laughed it off, but you are coming across as some white trailer trash KKK person with your "ching" comment. I had to look it up, but I think what you mean is "chink." It's wrong, and one more time, say it with me: Ka Ching is the sound of the cash register opening so Jon can put that money away that his little kids earned. You should never have just assumed it was Asian slang. That makes you look bad, not some blog site.

  • Anonymous

    Ching as in "I Ching". You are so stupid. I didn't make up the pun; I'm just pointing out that it's no coincidence that that particular phrase is used. To trailer-trash like you, all Asians are the same – Korean, Chinese, whatever. Just like the GWOPpers who frequent another Gosselin hate blog thought it was funny to post a poem referring to Jon's "slanty eyes". But you're not racists, no! Some of your best friends (if you had friends and weren't pathetic loser shut-ins on disability) would be Asian.

  • alison

    You idiot. "Ka Ching" is the sound of the money being put into the cash register. Jon's a Prince to Queen Freebie Irene. That's Kate, by the way. LOL@you.

  • Sharon

    Ka-Ching is in reference to the cash register and the $$$ that Jon is raking in. The kids have never been called fat, stupid, mentally retarded and never was lice wished upon them. For the love of all things good…what is wrong with you?? These ARE CHILDREN!!! They should be left alone to have a childhood that they can recall with happiness. Having a super uterus does not make you a good mom or a DESERVING mom either.

  • Sharon

    Ka-Ching is in reference to the cash register and the $$$ that Jon is raking in. The kids have never been called fat, stupid, mentally retarded and never was lice wished upon them. For the love of all things good…what is wrong with you?? These ARE CHILDREN!!! They should be left alone to have a childhood that they can recall with happiness. Having a super uterus does not make you a good mom or a DESERVING mom either.

  • Susan

    Pun. Play on words. Good Lord, can you trogladytes understand the concept? Why "Ka-Ching"? Because it sounds Asian. You can say otherwise until you're blue in the face (please do!) but it doesn't make it so.

  • Jen

    There have been fans who have said they waited in line for hours, drove out of state, slept in their cars, made "gifts" for the kids, believe that one day 'they will be friends with Kate', follow them from signing to signing, send them things in the mail, make creepy tribute videos, creepy fan sites with pictures of the kids. In nearly all cases of violence against "celebrities" the perpetrator is someone who "loves" the celebrity or is a "fan". Who is a bigger threat? People who want the family to live in anonymity, or people who can't bear the thought of not seeing their fave 'tup every week?

  • Julianne

    "GWoP is the worst site on the net, give us a break please, They are stalkers and liars, couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it, but you are right a lot of dumbies do read it…"If you are going to call people names…such as "dumbies" you may want to learn how to spell it correctly. A misspelling like that makes you look "dumb".

  • Jo-ann

    Why on earth are you denying that the kids are mocked on GWOP? It's part of how you all advocate for them, non? Hannah has been called fat very recently, in fact she was even called Fatty Arbuckle at one point. Ive read comments there that they look slow, that they look like they have down syndrome, that they aren't cute. 3F did wish lice on Hannah on top of everything else she has said about the kids. Don't be deniers, embrace your advocacy!

  • Carrin

    I'm thinking this sleezy mom of 14 kids isn't making life so easy for the Gosselins. Dr Phil said kids shouldn't be born to have a "job." Jon said he would never have to work again because of their great gift of twins and sextuplets. Taxpayers aren't so happy to be paying for the Octuplets — so why pay the Gosselins to become millionaires.

  • Lisa

    "The kids have never been called fat, stupid, mentally retarded and never was lice wished upon them. For the love of all things good…what is wrong with you?? These ARE CHILDREN!!!" You might want to read your beloved GWOP more carefully, because all these things and more have been said about the children by GWOP posters. Hence, the reason that GWOP has rules that include: "Do not be rude about the children or call them names. Commenting on the behaviour that we have seen is acceptable, but no name calling" and "No diagnosing mental/medical conditions." Get a freakin' clue — the self-proclaimed child advocates frequently make comments about the children that are cringe-worthy.

  • Sharon

    I can't believe I got sucked into this….the Gosselins are sad sad people, who unfortunately have played EVERYONE for fools. Whether you love them or hate them, you've been played a fool, as have I. I say enough is enough. Kate is gross; Jon is just sad and those children will be made to suffer for it all. I say stop watching; stop supporting their sponsors and maybe TLC will get the message and pull the plug on KON + 8.

  • WendyBird

    My guess is they will defend themselves, but will use their resources to air their side in a much larger publication who doesn't use a generic email address to assemble her story.

  • SarahBeth

    I think people that use the wrong possessive are creepy. You're = you are.

  • Carrin

    Okay, so what the heck is a GWOP? Looks like some people are more driven to hate whatever GWOP is than to like or dislike the Gosselins. Grow up, folks. This isn't the play ground of a junior high school.

  • ILOVEJON

    I caught that right after I hit send….see….this is how one takes ownership for their typos. The text was to say: You are (You're) lurking in the shadows and it is creepy. I was not using the wrong possessive. Just made a typo.

  • Jen

    But if the most that came out of this is that the kids had some sort of safeguards in place in the meantime, wouldn't you fans of the show agree it would be a good thing?

  • Carrin

    How many Dads could look themselves in the mirror each morning, and let others pay for his million dollar home and everything in it, and feel good about what he sees in that mirror? Jons work seems to be going to the gym every day, playing golf, and setting aside some time each week to allow Kate to scream at him on camera for the world to see? Kate's job appears to be going to the spa, going to the beauty shop, buying more and more clothes in smaller and smaller sizes, and having a spray tan color her orange. Then she travels hither, thither and yon and signs books for childish, pushing fans, and giving advice on how to pack a lunch and how to put items in layaway. Oh, what a wonderful life they must lead. So, what is the job of the Gosselin children? Just keep on being kids, having every kid in school make fun of you, and be filmed over and over until you look "natural" enough. Shame on Jon and Kate.

  • Christine

    Why the confidentiality contracts for a tv show? What are you hiding?

  • Carmina

    Of course the kids have been called those names. You're either lying or you are stupid. I vote both! And it's no coincidence that the name Prince Ka-Ching was chosen – again, it's a pun because of the Asian "ching". And again, you are stupid or lying not to acknowledge that (again, I vote both!).

  • Susan

    to be so bold and brazen when you hide behind "anonymous". And you know all the puns and the meanings behind the puns because you know all as you are the end all? That must be it…..we will all bow to your superior intelligence.

  • Christine

    a small percentage of posts may have gotten through calling the kids those names. How many would you say – twenty, thirty if that. We all know there's nuts in this world (we reading what you have to say after all) but the majority of stuff I read on that website is not insulting to the kids. The verbage is much less hateful than what the fansites use that's for sure.

  • Anonymous

    FX, I know you are not very bright but the fact that the case was lost does not mean that the employer is being 100% truthful. Kate wrote in her book that the court or board (whatever it was; I don't think it was an actual lawsuit, I thought it was just an unemployment hearing) found that there was merit to Jon's claims. But of course, in your tiny mind, Kate is lying and the employer is telling the truth. That is opinion, not FACT. God, were your parents first cousins or something? Also, the only stalkers that the Gosselins have are haters. There are very few Gosselin "love" sites and no fans that I’m aware of that engage in the stalking behavior that is de rigueur for the haters. The haters are the reason the Gosselins need security. That is not even remotely a debatable point.

  • Jen

    Who in the English-speaking world hasn't heard the term "ka-ching" as in $$ and a cash register? Seriously? Everyone knows that and to imply otherwise doesn't disparage people who don't like the Gosselins, it just makes you look rather stupid. Now, do any of the "fans" have anything to say about the SHOW, the ARTICLE, or for crying out loud the GOSSELINS? Or is this just going to be another display of childish name-calling behavior? Jon and Kate must be thrilled to have some of you vouching for them. Wow.

  • Jane

    It is scary to see the people who DO "love Kate". Uneducated white trash slobs who idolized two uneducated high school graduates as the greatest parents. Wow. I can imagine you watching this show from your sofa with your Cheetos and Pabst smoking your marlboros. Or are most of these comments from the articulate Jon. By the way, Jon, get a job. Is this what you did when you were fired? Trolling the internet?

  • Kelly

    "Cha-Ching" (which is the way I've always heard it) is the sound of a cash register – nothing racial or ethnic about it.

  • Carrin

    Me Thinks you all need to get a life. The comments left here have made a total sham of the original article. It now appears to have become a show down in the mud. Pathetic.

  • Kelly

    Anonymous a few posts up says "There are very few Gosselin "love" sites"…..exactly right – and there are numerous reasons to explain the lack of them.

  • Jane

    please explain the rationale of spending money to see these two idiots speak or to buy their book WHEN THEY HAVE A SHOW!!!!!! It is funny how the Gosselin lovers are so stupid. I just laugh when I hear how dumb these people are. Who pays $20 for a picture of these morons? Don't you have any life?

  • Kelly

    There is a lack of love sites because the fans of the show are not obsessed the way the haters are. Read the Princess boards to get a taste of how utterly insane most of these women are.

  • Deb

    From the Oxford Pocket Dictionary:ka-ching / kəˈching/ (also ker-ching / kə(r)ˈching/ ) • n. used to represent the sound of a cash register, especially with reference to making money.

  • Wowza

    Not one single post simply supporting Jon and Kate and their decisions. Only attacking the people who took the time and effort to take a closer look. Very telling. Why can't you guys find a valid, legitimate defense of Jon and Kate and have to resort to such childish tactics? Wow Wow Wow

  • Kelly

    *LOL* Yep – you can tell Jodi has the personality of a REAL trouble-maker…..*LOL*

  • SarahBeth

    The comments at GWOP are out of line with the the supposed role of child advocacy that the group has claimed to be taking.The fact that the details of where Jon and Kate's home is, people listing details about driving by said home, pausing and rewinding DVR's repeatedly, looking up financial and medical records, all leads to the conclusion that the advocates are more of a danger than any fan.

  • ILOVEJON

    Common Jon…..we know it's you! Just be brave and announce yourself. You're lurking in the shadows is creepy.

  • LL

    Great article– stupid people for even getting involved in an argument about GWOP, GDNNOP and the sucky Princess board.

  • NinaBell

    No SamanthaNC I said you were the f'tard. Go over to GNNOP and read my posts. I said you were a re-tard.

  • ILOVEMYSONMORE!

    How many would you say – twenty, thirty if that….Yeah, I know, no big deal. I personally LOVED the recap (not post, recap) in which the writer wished lice on Hannah. That was SOOO spot on. Oh and another time, they called Hannah fat. See, us GWoPPers *get* that Hannah deserves this because she is Kate's favorite.

  • sara

    I formed my own opinion about J&K awhile ago, they are famous for nothing and have made no contributions to society. I never knew the GWOP blog exsisted, but the venom and hate that is spewing forth from the Jon and Kate supporters is disturbing. Obviously they feel the GWOP site is a threat to the show because if it is as terrible and false as they claim it is, they wouldn't care about it so much. or spend so much time bashing it. As far as the article, is was very well written. Much of the content was already known or published elsewhere, but never in the same place. This gives people a more complete timeline of how this scam evolved. Jon's employer when Kate was PG with the septuplets went on the record and said Jon was fired for spending more time working on his new lucrative website than actually doing the work he was supposed to. The author found PA unemployment documents to verify this. A fan just wrote a few posts up "we don't know why Jon was really fired." What m

  • Jen

    Eventually, this show like all reality shows will end. We will eventually know the truth whether it comes out soon (if this article spawns other articles) or maybe later (if one of the kids or a family member writes a book). In the meantime, it would be nice if the fans and non-fans could agree that having some sort of safeguards in place for kids in this position (restricted filming hours, having a certain percentage of earnings set aside in the child's name with a non-family member trustee, and limiting camera access to private stuff like bathroom activities). Do some of the non-fans like to snark in addition to trying to get the show to end? Of course! Anyone who thinks they are breaking some new story on that one would be crazy. But even if people say snarking things about the show, and particularly about the parents, that doesn't mean that the concern for the kids to just live a normal off-camera life isn't also real. But if the most that came out of this is that the kids had some

  • SurvivorSucks-Rocks!!!!

    You girls sure were busted today. IWe @ SS always knew it was you twerps spamming message boards whenever Kate Gosselins name came up. You catty witches fell right into our trap. How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot, losers? Now that we know its you twerps spamming boards you'll never be able to do it again without all of us knowing who you are:highondegrassiandreadorisborismargojataetc, etc, :yawn.bottom line is you losers are….BUSTED, LMAO

  • Anonymous

    You can't be the same crazy Jen from higher up the thread? You are too reasonable. Anyway, to answer your question, I am a fan of the show. I am also against GWoP and the other hate sites and everything they stand for and I have NO PROBLEM with enacting child advocacy laws. Hopefully, these will also apply to the Duggar's, Toddlers & Tiaras, and other reality tv families. Too bad, Jess-Look-at-Me-I'm-a-Reporter, couldn't have focused her story on that angle. Perhaps a more competent writer will pursue the story. We will see.

  • liz

    stop monitoring all the websites… you cannot posssibly manage the damage control coming soon to a newspaper near you – you dug your hole now crawl into it, upon further instruction pick up your testicles in your wife's pocket for her to chew up and spit out in front of your three boys every day – great role model you are (NOT) you are a running joke around town

  • ILOVEJON

    We all need to band together to get these horrible shows off the air. What is wrong with TLC?? Toddlers & Tiaras is horrible. Duggar's……they are gross. I love AXE MEN and the sexy crab fishermen! Now, those are reality shows. Get these children off the air. Get their sicko parents off the payroll TLC. Let's boycott TLC!!

  • TEK

    YOU ARE STOOPING TO KATE'S LEVEL WHEN YOU SAY YOU WISJ LICE ON HANNAH OR CALL HER FAT. I AM A GWOP-ER AND HAVE MY DISLIKES ABOUT JON AND KATE, BUT WISHING BAD THINGS ON HANNAH OR ANY OF THE CHILDREN IS JUST WRONG. THEY GET ENOUGH BAD COMMENTS FROM THEIR PARENTS DO NOT START HERE. DON'T STOOP SO LOW OR HAVE NO CLASS LIKE KATE.

  • Nicole

    To "Poor Journalism" posted by Sonia…how can you be a journalist when you have such poor grammar and can't put a sentence together? I am on GWoP and I am not a "bitter, chackling (?) woman" or whatever it is you said…far from it, actually. And nearly everyone who posts on there has real concern for the children and steps are being taken to notify the proper authorities and organizations to see that something is done about the mistreatment and misuse of the children, some more than others. There need to be more articles like this that do not just glorify the Greedy Gosselins.

  • Jennifer

    I can't believe this is an ongoing news story with the all the blogs rude comments & complaints etc.., there is so much going on with this country and the massive changes for the bad, and this family is news. More people should be up in arms with the way this country/economy is headed for disaster.. I watch the show, and thats what it is a TV show in which these people are getting paid because they are bringing in ratings/advt for the network.. Don't like the show don't watch it and be done with it. Everyone is entitled to there opinions.. Im certainly not jealous of their $$$, sounds like everyone else is! I don't care, Im not paying for any of it. And what they do or say or behave to there own family is on them and none of anyone else business. SO People Move on to the REAL ISSUES!!!! :-)

  • Addie

    I found this article to be extremely well-written, balanced and full of information that the Gosselin's "public" is entitled to know. From what I can see on the show, I have known that something was wrong with this family for a while now. They seem so detached from their little children, as if they're all on a studio set and acting. Kate seems bored with the show and doesn't mind showing her distate for her husband and her little boys, and even Alexis and Mady. I'm glad that Jessica wrote this and I am so sorry to see the Gosselin fans out in full force, trying to get the story removed. It is a well-known tactic they use when something undesirable is exposed about the Gosselin family – they attack the site, forcing the site owners to shut down. I hope this publication is not easily intimidated. Thanks, again, for the article. Very eye-opening.

  • basket

    One word suits the article & most of the comments: infantile. Grow up and stop stalking TV people. It is only cute if you are 12 and your obsession is a Jonas brother.

  • Kim

    I agree the show has changed from when it first began, but I have to say the GWOP posters are frightenly obsessed with the show and with a family they don't even know! They claim their website is all about advocating children's rights, but then they go on to dissect the most trivial things about Kate that has nothing to do with children's rights. How does obsessing over whether Kate got a new fridge or if she got someone new to do her makeup help the children? What I read on the posts are more about superficial things like Kate's fake tan, Kate's skunk-like hair, Jon's beer belly, dishwashers, etc than anthing else. They keep mentioning the new house and how it looks dangerous for the kids that "something bad is gonna happen" as if they WANT something bad to happen to a child. How about advocating for children who are beaten, molested, etc? Imagine if their energy was put into more serious topics than a damn reality show???

  • Teresa

    "Not one single post simply supporting Jon and Kate and their decisions." Here I am. I FULLY support Jon and Kate and their decisions. You know why? Because they are THEIR kids (not ours). If you want to work to enact legislation to address children in reality tv, go for it. That does not mean you get to decide what's best for the Gosselins' or their children. Sorry, doesn't work that way. For the few of you Kate-haters who actually are raising children, I think you will appreciate that you get to make the final decisions for your children, whether others "agree" with them or not.

  • Anonymous

    Now, that is some truth-telling!

  • Jen

    I have no problem pointing out which of the comments attributed to "Jen" are mine and I'm sure some of them fall into your "crazy" category. That's fine. We don't agree on most of this stuff I'm sure. I'm just glad to hear at least one person from "the other side" agree that maybe things aren't so perfect with this setup with the show and that some changes could be beneficial. That's a start and I hope something is able to be done. I wish more exchanges could be civil, but I have to say that *some* of the people on what I consider to be the other side go straight to personal attacks. That doesn't help anyone, and when some of us retaliate..well, it's ultimately not constructive.

  • nomoredrama

    Just one word… Why?

  • Jen

    Just wanted to add that I agree that J&K isn't the only show that needs some safeguards and rules. Toddlers in Tiaras is horrifying. The Duggars are less so, because they seem to have some stricter standards about what is shown. I don't think you can paint all the shows with the same brush, but the standards I mentioned above (restricted filming hours, saving money for the kids, no bathroom shots) could go for any and all shows like that.

  • alison

    Why are the Gosselin children less deserving than the thousands of other children being abused daily? Don't they deserve someone to step up for them, too? In some ways, because raising your children on a Reality TV set is uncharted territory, it is even more frightening because we don't know what's to become of the Gosselin children down the road. How will they cope when all of this ends? How will their parents treat them when the children can no longer be the breadwinners? Jon and Kate have shown very little patience with the children in full view of the camera and millions of people watching them. If they think it's stressful now, wait until Kate can no longer use the "money sent to her" for spa visits, or when Jon has to sell his Utah ski condo to pay for tuition, or mortgage payments. I think it's only going to get worse for these children when Jon and Kate are fully exposed for their lies and schemes. And the children don't even have other relatives to help them through thi

  • tanya

    I think people who fight over websites and chatboards in the comment section of an article are weird. Share your opinion on the show (its awful), on the kid's exploitation (it's alarming), and on the parents (selfish)… but for god's sake, please realize how bizarre it is to squabble over message boards! It really takes credibility away from the strength of your opinion.

  • ILOVEJON

    Why can't we all agree that this show has to end? The one good thing out of all of this, if there is such a monster, is that it has brought to light that TLC thinks it is perfectly acceptable to exploit children as long as the ratings are good. KON are nothing more than pimps with a purpose. PLEASE STOP WATCHING!!!

  • Laura

    This article is ridiculous. Who are you to judge this family? Get over yourselves and find something better to do with your life, than criticize this family. If you are so upset by the show, than why watch it? Watch something else on Monday's at 8 and stop complaining. GET A LIFE!!!!!

  • SamanthaNC @ GDDNOP

    NinaBell over at GDDNOP told me that the kids all had downs syndrome. She said the caught it from their f'tard parents. NinaBell and nomoredrama wouldn't lie about such a thing. NinaBell always tells the truth because her nose will grow if she lies. Thats what she said at least.

  • Kim

    If the Gosselin children are in dire need of help and are in the same exact category as those who are beaten, starved, molested, etc, then I THINK THE POLICE WOULD HAVE INTERVENED BY NOW, CONSIDERING THAT IT'S A NATIONAL SHOW FOR THE POLICE AND DFCS TO SEE.

  • Amanda

    I would just like to clear some things up for those that are calling this article an opinion piece. It is not her opinion that Kate wears designer clothes. It is not her opinion that they are given free trips. It is not her opinion that Jon lied about why he was fired. It is not her opinion that Jon and Kate skip out on appearances. It is not her opinion that Kate does not spend time with her children and degrades her husband. Whether they be found through interviews and research or just simple observation, they are facts. If Jon and Kate have a problem with the way people are reacting to their show, they shouldn't have put their lives out there for everyone to see. I started watching the show in re-runs just last fall, so the timeline of the episodes was a bit scattered. I started out liking Kate and actually thought she was a good mother. I think it was the episode where they went to the children's hospital where I realized that Kate had changed, and not for the better. Those of

  • Amanda

    you who love Kate so much and think she is a model parent, why not try finding some evidence to back up your theory rather than attacking someone who has done their research. Then maybe you'll be taken seriously.

  • Anonymous

    To GWOPPERS: child being beaten in parking lot by parent = child denied cupcake for dessert because he didn't finish dinner. IT'S THE EXACT SAME THING PEOPLE! Child abuse! How is it that only our small band of internet crazies see this?

  • Beachlovin

    I have a secret crush on Jon. I think he is almost as hot as JimBob Duggar.

  • ILOVEJON

    People Please……what are you arguing about? So you love Kate; so you hate Kate; so so sew buttons on ice cream! Whether it is positive or negative, Kate & Jon Gosselin have gotten our attention and are raking in the $$. Just stop watching. You know, the Discovery Channel has some pretty interesting shows, as does A&E and those good 'ole standby networks, like CBS, ABC and NBC carry some good shows as well. I personally do not care if Suzie Q at GWoP or Marg at a Princess chat board like each other or not….I am exhausted trying to keep up. The kids are what is at stake (or is it steak). Don't we all agree on that? Common…just give me ONE I AGREE WITH YOU. Love ya All!!

  • highondegrassi-GOD

    I'd do Jon. I'm having a herpes outbreak this week but I'd do him if he let me, just saying.

  • Oh I get it now

    Ok – so let me get this straight…If I alone quit watching simply because I don't like the show, does that mean the exploitation ends? Wow – I am powerful.

  • Serena

    I spent way too much time with ugly, inbred women who smoke crack on a daily basis. I was using crystal meth and dropping acid this whole time. Now I can see that these drugs are frying my brain. I don't know if I can stop.

  • SurvivorSucks-Rocks!!!!

    Your last post was not without some good points. Please understand, however, that we can never take you seriously when you use the term "Kon". It's the GWoP ID badge.

  • Diane

    I can't believe a 'real' journalist would write an article based on opinions not FACTS. When you stoop to quoting "facts" you've gathered on internet blogs, which nothing but people's OPINIONS, you have lost the right to call yourself a journalist.

  • A

    It's a GREAT article and most improtantly? Jon and Kate know its ALL TRUE.

  • highondegrassi@CPMCHofGreece

    If the GWOPers had their say the plug would be pulled and we wouldn't be able to see the little darlings every week. Oh and I would miss them all so…..I love this show. If this show goes away I will be so sad. My life and my friends life revolves around this show. We all have Kates haircut and when I finally get a boyfriend I plan on having multiples just like Kate. GWOPers are cruel to want to take the best show on tv off the air!

  • ILOVEJON

    Who cares if KON is the "badge of GWoP" or not? It's quite catchy….but for YOUR sake, because you are so narrow-minded…..stop watching Jon & Kate + 8. I might tune back in when it is Jon – 9 . hahahaha I crack myself up!!

  • Tanya

    I hope more articles are written like this. I feel sorry for those poor children and now the puppies. Maybe if more people knew the truth TLC would nix this show. There should be laws against using your children in such a manner.

  • Preesi

    "If the GWOPers had their say the plug would be pulled and we wouldn't be able to see the little darlings every week."….Don't worry, the Marie Chantal board posters discuss a LOT of other topics other than the crazy Kate-haters and stalkers. They will be fine. *I* will miss the hilarious GWoP recaps, however. Have I said it before? I find wishing LICE on a 4-year-old SO FUNNY.

  • FX

    You are so right about everything you say.THAT"S why Jon's employer is in JAIL! The "lovers" of KATE STALK HER! The critics of Kate criticize. They need security because people LIKE YOU drive to their property and take videos. Thanks for bringing MY PARENTS into this. This shows that you have no clue how to correspond without insulting. Wow, and I suppose you call yourself a Christian?? How would your lord and saviour feel about you criticizing DEAD people (my father)??. Thanks again for showing your ignorance and for following this family. They need your "love offerings" because they sure aren't getting it from THEIR families.

  • ILOVEJON

    I think you should write a book on Kate. Remember "JUST JACK" from Will & Grace? Well, your book could be entitled "JUST KATE"…..when I grow up, I want to be just like Kate!! I'm praying for a super uterus!!

  • Amy

    If you don't think your "go sterilize yourself" comment was rude at all, your more 10X more disgusting than Kate.

  • Anonymous

    No matter what anyone says or does now to try to end the show, it's really too late. If any damage has been done to the children from the constant filming, it's too late after 4 seasons–you can't "undo" the damage. If you complain about how unfair Kate & Jon make money off their children, the money is already in their pockets. If you complain of all the freebies, new house, free trips, and nice clothes, it's too late. The money they've made from the show will last them for a long time, the trips have already been taken, and the house is now theirs. And Season 5 is already in the works. So no matter how much people continue to complain, realistically it's too late. Yes, the show will eventually end, but for those speaking out for child exploitation, you can't undo the negative impact that has taken place for 4 seasons. So what will continual complaining accomplish?

  • hahahahahaha

    "Just a lurker who has followed the various GWOPPERS "…so you admit to stalking the ladies of GWOP just for the fun of it. Niiiiiice.

  • k

    This is IT because all the people J&K have left in their dust have been silenced with confidentiality agreements. If the relatives, neighbours, past employees, or anyone who knows J&K spoke up, the TRUTH would really be known. They are the scum of the earth and I hope those kids get sue the pants off their orange mother for their exploitation. There is a reason J&K have NO friends or family who are in their every day life… they treat people badly, only use people to get free stuff, and they treat their kids worse than the dogs.

  • Kim

    You call Kate a bad role model…would you call the offensive, crude, and derogatory way you guys talk to others just because they voice a different opinion than your own a great example to children?

  • Natalie

    "You know why? Because they are THEIR kids (not ours)." That's NO EXCUSE, but thanks for playing. Would you look away at the child being beaten in the parking lot by his mother or father? I bet you would. It's their kid – stay out of it right? NO. "Instead love and the feel of warmth they've given them these cuts and sores that won't heal with time or with age." No, I don't approve of what they do to their own flesh and blood.

  • K

    All of you, shut up. This is the creepy crap we're talking about. Circumcision? None of our business. Worry about your own kids. However, eight kids under 10 who are obviously unhappy and being forced into situations they don't enjoy for money ON CAMERA is something to complain about. The difference: learn you it.

  • andrea

    Your one of those sick mommies who convinces her son to never leave home? He'll probably turn in another Ted Bundy…Thank you very much.

  • Selena

    Wow. A lot of crazy here. GWOP can froth at the mouth all it wants. The fact is that the Gosselins are attractive, wealthy and have a beautiful family. Living well IS the best revenge.

  • andrea @ CPMCofGreece

    Jon Gosselin and I did it doggie style and he didn't get me pregant either. Kates gonna steal us some fertility pills and he's gonna do me and margojata and get us preggies w/multiples. Watch out Duggar family the girls at CrownPrincessMarieChantalofGreece are gonna steal your thunder. Hope we have dwarfs then we could get some Roloff airtime too!

  • BritBrit

    Jon was the driving force in pushing Beth away. #1 he wanted more cut of the book and #2, there was the pesky little matter that ticked him off of Beth intervening in California when they went to the Ellen show and Jon got a little too 'rough' with Alexis. FACTS – there you have them.

  • All abuse is ABUSE

    The emotional scars go so much farther than a denied cupcake and if you can't see that I certainly hope you are sterile. If not, you should demand your doctor remedy that.

  • Kate's Battery Operated B

    You silly wabbits. Jon can't get it up. That bat hasn't swung in YEARS.

  • margojata-CPMCofGREECE

    andrea – I have herpes too!!!!! We have so much in common: 1. we love the gosselins. 2. we both would do Jon if he'd have our nasty herpe butts. 7. we are both shut-ins. 8. we both have Kates goofy haircut "cus" we luv her. 6. we both dropped out of high school when we got pregnant with out 2nd child out of wed-lock. 10. we are both ignorant. WOW!

  • Sue

    QUOTE – Elle, you are certainly referring to a site other than Gosselins Without Pity. There is not now, nor has there ever been, a claim by the managers about knowing Jon and/or Kate Gosselins personally, nor about being neighbors. If, however, you are still convinced these statement are on the site, it would be great to see a link, or at the very least, specific instructions on how to find these claims there. Again, they don't exist but if you are insisting, please share where you are seeing this. Posts supporting Jon and Kate (along with posts saying "Thanks for posting my positive comment; I was sure it wouldn't get through!") are indeed on GWoP.There are lots of anti-Gosselin sites out there; you are surely confusing GWoP with one of those. Take care. Posted by: Alicia on August 20, 2008 01:23 PM – END QUOTE

  • sara

    Yeah, I liked them when they had their first special, then the update. Then it turned into a free-for-all. Free tummy tuck, hair implants, teeth whitening, clothes – annoying! The kids are adorable but the parents are sickening and I would NEVER pay a cent for their autograph or watch the show any more.

  • alison

    It makes sense now that there is a blog site devoted to defending the Gosselins. This Crown Princess Marie Chantal group of wackos has exactly the same low level of maturity and absolutely no integrity as Jon and Kate Gosselin. Just pathetic, girls. I hope the Philly Mag editors does some culling tonight and takes you all out of here.

  • Kim

    To All Abuse is Abuse–if you can't see that I certainly hope you are sterile. If not, you should demand your doctor remedy that."–Your comment is horribly offensive and rude. And you think Kate is awful? I've never heard her saying anything as awful as what you said!

  • Alison

    Thank you very much for taking care of the "problem." I don't want Jessica's masterpiece to get drowned in their idiocy. I have read the article 3 times and still find it completely balanced and fair. After all, the Gosselins were given the opportunity to be interviewed. What else could Jessica do? I think she could have gone farther with some of the people she interviewed, but in her defense, she kept it factual and balanced. I'll be reading your magazine faithfully from now on.

  • All Abuse is Abuse

    Oh, my, I'm just crushed I have offended you. NOT. Sorry, people who can't see the difference in denying a cupcake alone does not equal abuse, but the whole cycle that is going on in the Gosselin household will leave serious scars on these kids' futures – no, they don't deserve to parent. If that person cannot see that this whole scenario is so much more complicated than one moment in time at a dinner table then they are clueless and should not ever take the chance or responsibility of crafting a life in their own hands. They will surely fail miserably. Kids deserve parents better than that.

  • Sue

    REST OF QUOTE – …I have copied it below.I have also read posts on GWoP calling the kids developmentally delayed. QUOTE FROM FRONT PAGE OF GWOP:WHO WE AREWe are a group of people who started chatting offline when the thread at Television Without Pity would be closed. We have the shared desire that information should be centralized. Each post reflects the author's opinion, not necessarily that of the group.STAFF CONTRIBUTORSWatchOverThem Maggie SecretMonkey Serena momof iluveeyore Sharla Here is one of many attacks posted on this board to Elle claiming she was wrong about people running GWoP and knowing the Gosselins or living near them. "And to deny that you personally know the Gosselins is laughable."Well, bless your heart, elle, we're still waiting for that link you were going to provide to "prove" that GWoP managers personally know the Gosselins. You know, to prove that you're telling facts instead of lies? Posted by: Suzie on August 20, 2008 0

  • Jan

    Thank you, at last for gathering the truth about the Greedy Gosselins and publishing it! Oh thank you. You are saving the little old ladies from spending their Social Security checks on things for this family. It is disconcerting to see these kids exposed in every way and to be forced into going along with this exploitation. Kate is an example of a very self-centered narcissistic mother and she has NEVER taken care of those kids by herself yet! Here's a VERY IMPORTANT point: She claims that Hannah has migraine hedaches. Her pediatrician and mother are NEGLIGENT in allowing her (if she truly has migraines) to be filmed constantly with those bright studio lights! This can only hurt her. Actually, I'm sure it was one of Kate's fabrications. However it's a typical thing to catch her making a statement like that, and most people know that bright lights hurt if you are having migraines. This, of course, is an example of neglect. Kate and Jon should be shown to the world as frauds

  • V.

    Begging got too easy for self-serving J&K; no shame, no conscience (please don't justify by saying it's "for the kids"); TLC, you can rename it The Gimme, Grab & Greed Show. Or, how about "An American Tragedy."

  • Twitter.com/McCaw

    You KON fanatics are _impossible_! Mark my words… those kids will grow up and rightfully so lash out at their parents and ask "what did you do w/ all the money that WE (the kids!) earned?/where is it?" and you old bitties will be calling them "ungrateful". How pathetic. Got your heads in the sand deep enough?The Duggars are repulsive grandstanders. They literally GET OFF on all the sickening "oohs" and "aahs" they get from the public. That's why they do what they do. It's an OCD-thing for them.

  • Leon

    From the standpoint of someone who didn't know much about this family or show I found this article to be informative. The amount of discussion already going on here in the comments speak to the fact that the author has struck a chord with many a viewer/reader.

  • Eva

    6 pages of "hater-ation" must have took a lot out of the author. I didn't read 20 comments down when it became clear that the Gosselin family isn't safe in America. For people to actually attack the kids with hateful words, bash their parents and question their existence (the best one was the impotent reason…oh please) the one comment that said it all was "Wow. A lot of crazy here. GWOP can froth at the mouth all it wants. The fact is that the Gosselins are attractive, wealthy and have a beautiful family. Living well IS the best revenge."

  • Doesn't Survivor Suck Now

    WE STALK THE GWOPERS BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT LET US JOIN THEIR CLUB.

  • All Abuse is ABUSE

    I didnt tell her to go sterlizie herself. I think it should only be done under the professional guidance of a licensed physician. If you're gonna "quote" me…jeeez…at least get it right.

  • R.

    Can the Gosselin kids not be allowed to live out their impressionable little lives without having to earn a salary for their keep in front of the whole world? I'm lucky I had no such obligations to support my family at age 4. Memories from these early years will either sustain or haunt the kids later on. That ball's in your court, J&K.

  • twitter.com/mccaw

    This article is posted in the "rec.arts.tv" newsgroup (Usenet). ||||||| I hope they didn't mutilate those poor boys. http://www.stopthecut.org/

  • Realllllly…?

    Eva, you little minx. That comment you quoted was much further down than 20. Admit it – you love this shit.

  • SamSamtheFindemMan

    I KNOW ALL!!! mwah mwah mwah ha ha ha ha Wow your buddies must be so happy with you right now.you post here.then you cut past post @ your site.then post here again.post there.Your momma didn't raise any dummies did she? ROFLMAO

  • I LOVE MY SON MORE!

    You little GWoPPers are just too cute! Yesterday you railed on Baby Mama and GDNNOP. Today it's the Princess Boards. Always a new "victim" for you. You would think you would be happy that you got your BIG ARTICLE published. I forgot GWoP doesn't do happy. They do bitch, moan, complain, and especially HATE quite well, however. To recap, a lot of us are laughing at you. How could we not when you have Preesi, Laura Linger, Mooney-Tunes and Looney-Tunes (a double bill!), FX and many more lunatics on "your" side!!!

  • SamanthaNC @ GDDNOP

    We are all losers who were not even asked to the prom. We spend are days living vicariously thru Kate Gosselin. We are all crazy old cat lady's who posts @ GDDNOP while wearing all her furs that have been eaten away by mothballs. . . .325 pounds? You betcha!

  • Alan

    This guy has the Gosselins pegged. http://www.youtube.com/user/truthtellervideos

  • alison

    If you do a search online, every time there's an interview or an article about the Gosselins which usually brings criticism, you will find hundreds of vile, filthy and ridiculous comments. These are placed on the sites to PURPOSELY get the comment section closed. It is done by Jon Gosselin and sanctioned by their PR firm. It works . . . just wait and see.

  • Anonymous

    "Go to their site and look at all their posts. Many of their cut and pastes are from this comment board. You have your evidence." Yes, and many of them are comments that the mods delete from GWoP such as the many comments that were deleted that accused the TLC cameramen of being pedophiles. Read all of the princessboard's GWoP thread. It is very telling about GWoP.

  • All Abuse is ABUSE

    Kim – I can only answer for myself but my child is not reading over my shoulder to see what I say on various subjects across the net. And please, get off your high horse – it goes both ways. Each side gives as good as it gets and if you deny it then (get ready, here's a crude, rude moment) you're an idiot.

  • Beth

    all of us in PA know what a joke these two are, now the world knows they are a disgrace to our state

  • SamSamtheFindemMan

    It's Not The GWoP Folks said:If you do a search online, every time there's an interview or an article about the Gosselins which usually brings criticism, you will find hundreds of vile, filthy and ridiculous comments. No its the BullDykes from CrownPrincessMarieChantal of Greece who are doing the bidding or their queen highondegrassi. I predict the board will be shut down by this afternoon and the bulldykes will have won again. In the meantime I hope serious posters keep posting.

  • Billy Jean thats my Name.

    Now that you know who is spamming your boards is there anything that you can do about it? Their website is Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece -Gosselins without Pity? Go to their site and look at all their posts. Many of their cut and pastes are from this comment board. You have your evidence.

  • Sue

    Below is a quote from the New York Post site where a manager from GWOP denies living by and knowing the Gosselins. Then another poster writes in with a quote from the GWOP site (which has been removed) defending the original poster, Elle. I will post this and anything that doesn't fit, I will post as another comment. I don't think Jon and Kate are perfect, but I think GWOP is just as bad. QUOTE – Elle, you are certainly referring to a site other than Gosselins Without Pity. There is not now, nor has there ever been, a claim by the managers about knowing Jon and/or Kate Gosselins personally, nor about being neighbors. If, however, you are still convinced these statement are on the site, it would be great to see a link, or at the very least, specific instructions on how to find these claims there. Again, they don't exist but if you are insisting, please share where you are seeing this. Posts supporting Jon and Kate (along with posts saying "Thanks for posting my positive comment; I w

  • Deb

    Jessica: It's great that someone finally has the guts to look into the Gosselins. Unfortunately, as you can see by the comments, anyone who even attempts to do say anything negative towards them is going to get put down. You can tell most of the comments are from teenagers and trolls. Hopefully, you won't let it stop you from writing more articles about them. I think it's time to shut down this comment section because the trolls have taken over and you can't have a mature decent discussion about the article.

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  • NinaBell

    What you writing a book?! Loser get a life.

  • SUE

    QUOTE – FROM THE QUESTION AND COMMENT SECTION OF GWoP:Serena said… QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes.8/06/2008 8:50 PM The above quote is from the Question and Answer section of GWoP.About half way up this board, many people come after a poster named EllE for saying the managers of GWoP personally know or are neighbors with the Gosselins. I knew I had also seen it on GWoP before, but couldn't remember where. I remembered reading it and thinking GWoP had a personal agenda against the Gosselins.Above is that information. Like I said, it is on the Question and Answer section of GWoP. Unless they quickly take it down, you can read it yourselves. Start on the front page of that section and scroll down.The managers don't need to bother saying that managers aren't staff contributers. They are called staff contributers on the front page of GWoP. I have copied it below.I have also read posts on GWoP

  • Lil D3vil

    Has anyone read Kate's interview she gave to the Associated Press May 8, 2005? titled: Mother Of Sextuplets Faces Loss Of Medicaid-Funded Nurse, where you can already seen her warped sense of entitlement? This is what she said to the reporter.Kate Gosselin said she "feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births."This sounds much like what Suleman has been spweing.

  • sharon

    I hope my neighbors don't start a blog about me. Good grief, get a life! Why you are complaining about Kate, she sleeps at night in a million dollar house, thinking nothing of you GWOPers!

  • Carrin

    Is this an article on the Gosselins or an article about GOSSELINS WITHOUT PITY? It is very easy to seperate the Gosselin fans from the rest of this crowd. Fans, please, don't get your panties in a wad! That is, if you are in panties yet. Seems most of this crowd is amazingly infantile.

  • Anonymous

    I have read the article 18,000 times and am reading it right now. I am the bestest GWoPPer. Yipee for me.

  • BabyMama

    I just can't say enough great things about them. Wait. I think I just came. :-) sterlingknight.sterlingknight@gmail.com

  • AJ

    If you don't like or agree with the Gosselins, then stop watching the show. Everyone has an opinion, yes Jon & Kate opened their family up to all this backlash because they are cashing in on their family. As long as they're not hurting me personally (and they're not) I don't care what they do. Yes they are subjecting their children to tv cameras and publicity – the children also look like they are fed, groomed and cared for. There are thousands of children who don't even get that from their own parents. If Jon & Kate want to capitalize, so be it, at least it's not coming out of my tax dollars in the form of welfare. I can't believe all the negativity and hate spewing out of all these comments – I really don't care one way or the other, if the show gets cancelled tomorrow, my world is not going to end, if the show goes on for years to come, I'm not going to obsess over each show and detail. You people need to get a life.

  • Ann

    I was born and raised in Reading,PA the same area where Jon and Kate Gosselin have lived most of their lives. The show, what the family has become, seems to be a downward spiral out of control. There are isssues that are disturbing on so many levels I do not know where to begin.Kate's constant berating of Jon, their "new" outward appearance, especially with Kate looking so Hollywood, lavish lifesyle, grabbing money from any source possible, speaking engagements,books,photographs for twenty dollars, accepting any freebies imaginable, trips, etc. Kate is so transparently all about herself. I could go on and on. This couple's constant professing of their born again Christian faith is liken to someone bragging that they are a vegetarian but everytime you seem them in a restaurant they are eating a big bloodly ribeye steak. I applaud you for your honest and accurate expose of this couple. Perhaps if folks open their eyes to the reality of these two freeloaders there wouldn't be a show expl

  • Alison

    It would seem likely that if there is anyone out there who can come forward and defend the Gosselins that this would be the time to do so. And I'm not talking about the rabid fans that are still seeping through some how. I'm talking about people who actually know Jon and Kate and can say something good about them. I read an article interviewing Beth Carson about the book. Beth clearly stated that she wrote the book. "They lived it; I wrote it." It doesn't make sense that Kate is taking ALL of the credit for writing it? I don't think they're friends any longer, regardless of what Jon said in his Utah interview. Just seems strange that if they were friends, Beth would be the first person to defend them . . .

  • twitter.com/mccaw

    The Roloffs ('Little People, Big World') are pretty awful in their actions, but NOT in KON's league."Big Bigot In The Land Of Little People"http://i36.tinypic.com/2q9m8a8.jpg"The McMansion Discovery Communications bought"http://i34.tinypic.com/2ywihz4.jpgThey're a regular real estate pros! I wonder when the Duggars ('18 Kids & Counting') will cash in? I wonder if it's too late for the [blank] family of '12 At The Table' to put in their order????

  • Lil D3vil

    I agree with Deb..Lock the Forum as it would look like those who in my opinion who have come to defend the Gosselin's cant, so they are now spamming with filth.Thank you for having the chutzpah to post the article.

  • twitter.com/mccaw

    Stick your head in the sand. Props to the person who called KON "this decade's Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker". Brilliant!

  • twitter.com/mccaw

    You Gosselins fanatics are delusional. Speaking the truth about KON's expolitation of their innocent children isn't _just_ a GWOP-thing. The 'Jon & Kate + 8' IMDb message boards has been speaking the truth about KON since the first eppy.IMDb message board: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124348/board [ tweet@yahoogroups.com ]

  • Gail

    Why can't the defenders DEFEND Kate and not attack other people? I don't know what GWOP is but the hate for them is so strong that obviously they are on to something. This writer didn't quote them, she just mentioned that they exist. The Hate for the critics is scary and I wonder if some of Kate's fans have actually read the hate they spew for people who just disagree with them. It's makes me sad that adult woman act so childish.

  • Sterling Knight Rider Strong

    http://shepherdcentral.com/viewtopic.php?t=12369Oh, but I guess THEY are all GWOP forum people, too, posting under different names there. Sure, sure… Maaaaybe it's time to call a spade a spade here. All the J&K supports attack those who criticize, but DON'T *defend* the parents. Please tell us how they excel as parents. Go ahead. An open invitation.

  • Kit

    Far as a I know, highondegrassi and margojata have a thing for Jim Bob Duggar, not Jon. They're serious mental cases.Anyhoo, love the article, Jessica. I'm glad you're exposing these losers for what they really are…scam artists and child exploiters. Why are some people so jealous of GWoP anyway? Because their blog has almost 3 million hits? Because they expose the truth? Because they dig up the dirt before anyone else can? I think it's a very resourceful blog for exposing the KON's. The work they have to do to accomplish this isn't pretty, I'm not surprised the sheeple are always in an uproar about the truth. Sorry, the truth hurts sometimes. Keep at it Jess and GWoP!

  • Tall

    …..you start asking for state aid…..OMG – I'm makin' myself laugh here……*LOL*

  • lady_gaga@yahoogroups.com

    Are we quite done yet, boys and girls? ;-) I wonder what's going on in Heritage USA (Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker) aka the KONpound aka Jon & Kate's McMansion?

  • highondegrassi

    They're like this decade's Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker!

  • I LOVE MY SON MORE!

    "The 'Jon & Kate + 8' IMDb message boards has been speaking the truth about KON since the first eppy.IMDb message board."————– Thanks, but no thanks, reading GWoP (occasionally) is about all the insanity I think I can handle….

  • Sandee

    Sweet post congratulating our girl on her first big piece. I found it funny that you said "someone finally had the guts", however. Um, National Enquirer ring a bell? Jess – you might see if they will hire as a free-lancer there too. You might even get a real email like other reporters.

  • Anonymous

    I can't believe this has to be explained. That email Jessica used was to gather information for this piece without revealing the publication it was being written for.

  • highondegrassi

    twitter.com/mccaw = *LOL* Thanks so much! I couldn't resist! I LOVE me some Tammy Faye! ;)

  • Tall

    twitter.com/mccaw – You know – when you think about it, the Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker parallel FITS! *LOL* For Tammy – the high heels, hair, makeup, plastic surgery….For Jim the money-grubbing begging & lying …. then the disturbed children….then the "empire" crumbling as their lies were exposed… I think I'm onto something here !!! *LOL* and now I'll switch back to my "real" persona and do away with the impersonation…. ;)

  • BabyMama

    Laurie Goldberg – Senior VP of Communications for TLC called Jessica "unethical". She would never have contributed to such trash. When you Google "Jessica Remo," there is only a professional listings site that said she was the assistant managing editor at Philly Mag–but only for 2007-2008. She is not listed in either the magazine's masthead or its "editorial bios" page. She might now be a freelancer, but she doesn't appear to have a titled position there. This says ALOT about the desperation this clown has to write something that would cause National attention to a small publication. They must be thrilled.Jon & Kate Gosselin Fan Pagehttp://theanti-gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com

  • Stacey

    Ifs its true that this Jessica was only at her job for a year until 2008, then that explains alot. She was probably canned and told that she could only come back if she got a hot expose that everyone would talk about. On GWOP they said that she was e-mailing hate blogs and was trying to do this article for 6 Weeks, which would also explain the time line. With the time she took to write this, you would have thought she would have come up with a bigger "reveal" then Jon's job saying why he was fired. Because lets face it, after 5 years, how could any of that be substantiated from his job? It would be more speculation than anything. It just goes to show you, people read something and they think it's fact. You can never know the real truth.

  • sarah

    Can we all stop defending these people for 5 freaking seconds? I'm SO tired of everyone saying that all of this is because of Gwop. I had an issue with Jon and Kate before I even knew what Gwop was. I actually don't even have an issue with the free trips, or any of that. I work in media, so I get how it works. I could care less about their family problems. I am honestly concerned because money does evil things to people. There is no excuse for them living off of their show m(ie: the kids). There is no excuse for filming the children nude, showering, going to the bathroom, for the whole world to see. There is no excuse for responding "You're not welcome" to your children when they thank you for their new puppies. I'm very concerned that these kids are being seriously exploited. If their own parents won't set limits for what can be shown of them, who is going to step in and protect them? In 15 years, if you had to answer to kids asking "why did you support this?". What would you say? Ple

  • Sera

    Good article. Jon & Kate have planned this out from the beginning. They do not care about anyone except themselves. These 2 are the worst parents for exploiting their children and the fact that TLC condones it, is disgusting. Jon & Kate have thrown away their friends and family for greed and now they are using their children's childhood for wealth and fame. Kate abuses her wimp of a husband and her helpless kids. Kate was NEVER infertile and every member of her family knows it. She just wanted to get fetility drugs to create a system where she or her loser husband did not ever have to work again. And for the fans that support the Greedy Gosselins. I say shame on you for being part of exploiting children.

  • Elsie

    People do not be fooled by this family. Kate is actually as bad as she seems on T.V. The children really are being exploited for their fame. When the church had a clothing drive for her,when the babies where born, she turned her nose down at the clothing. Probably because they weren't name brand clothing. And she also felt, we the residents should have provided for her babies. Well guess what? I work hard for my money, and I'll be dang, if they are getting any of it!! It's bad enough our Pa. taxes are going toward giving all those kids a college fund. Heck I can't even afford to have one for my own children. Whose going to give one to my children? Just know a lot of the things you are reading in this article are absolutely true.

  • Anonymous

    How do you know what anyone at TLC said ? I'm not doubting you but you need to put a link to what you read or explain how you know. I didn't see it on your blog either.

  • Sera

    The Gosselin fans, especially those at Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity(GDNNOP), spew venom and are very hateful women. They call themselves Christians. Oh Please. They are nor true Christians, they are just hypocrites that have so much sin in their own lives, that they lash out at others. GDNNOP is filled with women who hate their lives and look at Kate as a role model because they themselves are vindictive mothers and horrible wives. These women are jealous of their daughters because they know that they themselves are dried up and nothing special. They are just like Kate because Kate is very jealous of her Korean children and that is why she treats them with disrespect. I am very surprised that the Asian Community is not involved in this matter by watching a hateful women treat her children with disdain because they are Korean and she is not.

  • J

    This article is ridiculous! Who here hasn't done something they weren't proud of? The only difference with Jon & Kate is they are on television! Also, who wouldn't want to provide for their family & have financial security? Do you know everything they are doing with their money? Finally, you can't say the children are unhappy or abused based on what is shown on tv. Editing is everything. If you came to my house or any of my friends' houses, you could get 25 minutes of temper tantrums to put on a show. All kids have ups and downs in a single hour, let alone everyday! Do people really have nothing else better to do than attack this family? At least they provide for their children, love them, and teach good Christian values!

  • Janice

    Stop exploiting the Gosselin children for profit. It is sad that TLC and Jon and Kate stoop that low to show the kids nude, having bowel movements or make fun of their child's teeth. These kids need a normal life, let Jon and Kate get a show but leave the kids out of it. Enough making money off of little kids.

  • Barbara

    It seems to me you people don't need to watch it is still a free country but what you are doing is committing slander. Posting gossip without checking the facts is slander. I hope they sue you!

  • Sadness
  • NTV/NAT Group, Ltd.

    What a truly pathetic, empty life 'BabyMama' (the wetspot queen for QFI – Queen Freebies Irene) must have if she has to pathetically live her life through freakin' Kate (Irene) Gosselin! lmao I'd pity you, but you don't deserve it. I pity your kids, if you have any (???). I _surely_ pity your 18 hungry cats in your probably ramshackled apartment. "No, no… not now. Mama's got worship the phony, greedy Gosselin wicked witch of PA North West. I can't open your cans of tuna right now. After… after." It's not nice to say, I know, but when KON are in their 70s and need to be taken care of by their adult children, I sincerely _hope_ they leave them in a squaller (probably like how BM lives) and tells them THIS is why this is happening to them. KARMA, BABY!!!! :-)

  • Pam

    Thank you for publishing this article! And thank you to Jessica Remo for writing it!It was very fair and well balanced, kudos!

  • Sarah

    I know that some of the defence of Jon and Kate is that they have 8 children, so they're stressed, and that's why they are snippy, and unkind to each other. I understand that to an extent. However, I worked for a family that had 12 children, 3 bio, and 9 foster/adopted, special needs children. The parents never spoke to each other like that. I don't doubt that Jon and Kate love their children- I'm positive that they do. I know from my own awful childhood though, that the best thing you can do for your kids, is to put your relationship with your spouse first. Kids need security from their parents. A vow renewal, while sweet, doesn't provide that. Two parents that love and respect each other, and show love to each other-even when things get tough, are what a child remembers. Not that there will never be an arguement. But that their mom and dad respected each other, and them, enough to work it out in a healthy way. I think insted of investing their money in things "built upon the sand" th

  • lisa

    "who hasn't done something your not proud of" is a phrase we here over and over. The fact is most people are not out shouting from the roof tops they are Christians and therefore should be given a pass and be given everyone's money for contributions. Face it fans, these people have been lying from day one and you have been took for fools.

  • caroline

    This article is so unprofessional. The writer obviously can't stand the Gosselins and made no attempt to be fair, but even worse than that is the fact that no honest work went into this piece…the Gosselin haters practically wrote it for her. For those who are jumping up and down, all excited because this article means the beginning of the end for Jon and Kate Plus 8…get real. It's an article on Phillymag.com. The power of that is not exactly what I'd call awesome. I repeat…it's Phillymag.com. Check out the Jon and Kate Plus 8 ratings next time you get a chance…they're off the charts. The Gosselin's detractors are loud and obnoxious, but their supporters are much, much greater in number. The show will come to an end sooner or later, but it won't be because of some dippy little article that reads like it belongs in a school newspaper.

  • BabyMama

    I'm allergic to cats, have a loving husband and family and studying for my Masters. If I had cats I'd sick them on your pathetic ass and have them scratch your eyes out. HEHE You wish I was like that, sorry to disappoint. http://theanti-gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com

  • ANYO

    Andrea, you are one sick person and some one should cut your tongue out, and break your fingers so you couldn't hit the key board any more, You are dis-gusting and an embarrassment to women,Why don't you go jump off the end of our world.

  • Dana

    I am absolutely shocked by the nastiness that has been displayed on this board. Supporter, hater, whatever… This is not the way to promote your agenda. I'm not a fan of Kate AT ALL but I do have to say… I'm a nurse, and I have no access to clomid or any other drug for that matter, and I can not begin to imagine asking any doctor I work with for help on getting those drugs… Moreover, if I did so, I can't imagine any of them even considering the request as a blip on their radar. I can barely get their attention when I need to talk to them concerning one of their patients.

  • Marla

    If by watching a couple pimp their kids off and live off the earnings THEY MAKE as both parents do not have real job's and watching a wife belittle, mock and put down her husband on national TV is what you call "Christian Values" it makes me kind of wonder if thats the reason Jon was out getting sloshed at many of the local bars in their area without his wife lately. Here's a picture of him with two adoring fans.http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww303/strea449/Jonatshortys.jpgIf these are the high moral Christian values they want our children learn who watch this show to have,it sure makes GLAD I'm not a Christian and I now turn the channel.

  • Sarah

    "built upon the sand" they need to focus on getting things right between them, so they can be better parents to their kids.

  • Arielle

    RSI in Wyomissing, where you went for IUI, cancels what is deemed a failed cycle once the women is diagnosed as hyperstimulated, and subsequently hospitalized for it. They REFUSE to inseminate any patient at that point. Tell us, how was it again that 5 weeks after your hospital stay for that exact reason, the sextuplets were discovered? *tick*tick*tick* that's the clock, ticking away. Soon your little secret is going to be revealed on the national level….

  • Kent

    "Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Why is this Baby Mama woman still blah blah blahing in my ear? All I hear is I…blah…sent..blah…an email and I…blah…blog about….blah…you. Go away you blah blahing freak and stop stalking me and my family. Take your damn cell phone camera and get out of my space you freakin weirdo".

  • R

    Unfortunately I do know the Gosselins and have for years. I can't think of one thing to say to defend them. They dug their hole and now have to "lie" in it. Don't worry. It'll all come out eventually. Many people who know them are talking amongst each other and wondering how much longer the charade will continue. They are very aware of what is happening, just not in a position ( mostly legally ) to speak out. The ones who want to have been quickly shut-up by the folks in high positions. Some of these folks who have been quieted, you know. But I have no doubts Jon and Katie's pedastal will come a tumbling down and only because of their own doing, not anything critics have said or done. The fans will turn 15 shades of red for defending them all this time.

  • Erin

    this is insane

  • curtis

    I use to be a fan of the show, now I just watch intermittently(that kate women is like nails scraping on chalkboards). I didn't realize there was so much hate for the gosselins. But I find this article to be a joke. Jessica, go wash your hair or something. The economy is going down the tubes, layoffs are common and people are dying in IRAQ. And this is what you decide to spend your time researching? Give up your journalism creds and do something meaningful with your life.yea!

  • Mady G

    Regarding the notion that only people who post on GWOP hate these two clowns, the fact that I found that site or any other site that discusses them was due to my being able to see how horrible they were and seeking out information with a search. It's not like the website has to go looking for people! I could not believe the audacity of this couple so I first looked on TWOP after seeing some others talking about their problems with the family and how pathetic people had the topic pulled off TWOP. THis was a regular message board for parents I frequented. No one there like the Gosselins. Not one person defended them. They are hated people. The numbers of people who realize the truth about them are growing. Nothing you sheeple can do about it.

  • Maggie

    When FX was needing a little kindness shown her you made her feel like she wasn't worth her breath and she was a bad mom, when she said she cried all the way home, hoped that made you happy, all you did was make fun of her, maybe this wasn't the place for this but so what? if she needed a little sympathy why not give it, you have no idea maybe this is all she has to help her thru another night, I am on another blog and it's J&K but we always get off topic and there are other important things besides J&K. 1-2 posters (ANONYMOUS)had some kindness for her while you others had to be vulgar and cut her down, Evidently you don't know the Power of Words, but one day you may need a little kindness shown to you, You can say it's only a blog, it's the internet, but still there are humans on these keyboards, and I hope you are ashamed, but from where some of you frequent(your home blog) I'm sure it does not faze you, I guess you had a good upbringing, and good manners taught and a good mom at hom

  • Samantha

    This piece is not real journalism. It is one person's opinion disguised as an aritcle. It is extremely unprofessional and I am quite surprised that this publication ran it. Shame on this magazine.Andi, you have a lot of time on your hands, don't you? I do think GWOP is a very unhealthy blogsite as all they do is spew forth venom and hate for a woman they do not even know.For Arielle, please, nobody belives that you are from the hospital in Wyomissing or known anything about the fertility treatments of Kate's. Each patients' case is sealed and private. Nice try.It is apparent that this site has been taken over by the trolls of GWOP. I can see the flesh eating all over these comments. Look within yourselves and ask why you spew forth such hate for a woman and/or couple you don't even know? Would YOU want people to attack the choices you made for your family?Jealousy is an angry monster. If you identify with this statement, work on yourself. Be a better person than

  • Shelley

    First off Mady G., why not use your real name and not that of a little girl? Who's the exploiter now?Second, why do you GWOP idiots use that stupid word "sheeple"? It makes you look extremely dumb, like a little kid calling others names. If you don't agree with how Jon and Kate raise their kids that's your own opinon. But, stop complaining about it on boards and hating them for it. Those kids are their responsibility and they are doing just fine abiding by their own decisions. Last I saw, the kids live in a great big home and are getting alot of love from their parents. Jealous perhaps?????

  • Bershock

    Jessica cannot be considered a real journalist. A GWOP blogger yes, but not a journalist.As Curtis pointed out, we ahve real problems in the world, and all this clown Jessica can write is a lamo article on lies about a family.By the way to that Anonymous person who claimes to know the Gosselins and said youre waiting for the charade to fall: it's highly unlikely you know them. Their inner circle and family and even those who remotely knwo them wouldn't be on the blogs talking about them and in a way that is hurtful.

  • Maggie

    I don't think I have ever been on a blog that reeks of so much hatred,and for sure none that has so much vulger talk, I couldn't hardly believe the way some of you talked to FX, some one asked her if her parents were cousins and suggested she should have been aborted! who talks that way to another human? who talks that way even to a dog? and then to have enough nerve to talk about Kate Gosselin, Geeezzz!! I am not a big fan of the Gosselins, but I will say this I bet you woulkd never hear Kate say any thing even remotely close to that, how can you see dirt on your neighbors windows when you never clean your own? And even talking about Kate, you never hot on things that should be important (like the kids) it's always her hair, her money, jon, what she says/does, their freebies/vacations, so what? if some one wants to be stupid enough to give it, well then heck yes she should take it, And when they get offerings from a church, they don't have to ask for them, the church freely gives them

  • Maggie

    and a good mom at home , but by whose standards, not mine for sure, You are an embarrassment to women every where, I'd like to see you smart mouths in a real debate (not J&K) you'd get chewed up and spit out. You ppl come on here and swear you know J&K and you are a bunch of liars,just like the GWoP ppl and a few others are, these ppl who say they have had personal contact with them are idiots, we are not the stupid ones, but of course we are not the stalkers either, You call J&K by name on here as tho they are reading/blogging, are you serious? they wouldn't waste their time, I think you and Jessica ought to rethink your day to day lives and come up with some thing new, hours of this crap and your gonna have a stroke, J&K are taking nothing from you, what ever they get is not costing you, So while you sit and disect their every move every fart, they are sending some one to the bank with their money, laughing all the way.

  • Anonymous

    "And even talking about Kate, you never hot on things that should be important (like the kids) it's always her hair, her money, jon, what she says/does, their freebies/vacations," Maybe because people get crucified for talking about the kids, which is as is should be. Why would you criticize anyone for talking about the Kate's hair ? It's OK to talk about Jennifer Aniston's for instance but not Kate's ? If you are so easily offended then I maintain that the Internet might not be the best place for you. No, I am not from GWoP. It is OK for people to badmouth our president but if anyone says a disparaging word about Kate, entire blogs spring up just to defend her. Something is wrong with this picture.

  • Nancy

    Let us all hope for the sake of those poor children that this is the beginning of the end for this show. These kids deserve so much better. They are miserable and it shows. Turn off the cameras, Jon and Kate should get jobs and let the kids have a normal life.

  • Courtney

    So the main complaint of this argument is that Jon and Kate are being paid for speaking, for promoting books, etc. How else do you expect them to feed their children? And as for people getting upset about appointments having to be canceled, can you even imagine trying to make a schedule work with nine other people? Most of us can't even get our own schedules in order. I think it is pointless for everyone to bash them because in actuality most of us know nothing about anything that they have gone through. Maybe they haven't made all of the best decisions in raising their kids but that is what parenting is about. I can guarantee that any other parent out there has messed up before and made a bad choice when it comes to parenting their children. They decided to put their flaws out there and let everyone see that at the end of the day it all still works out even with your flaws.It's not nice to judge people, especially if you don't even know about them. And remember that ultimately G

  • Heidi

    Philly mag is actually Philadephia Magazine. So that means that this article will be in print, on paper, mailed to people`s houses, and sold on newsstands. PRINT! Pay $9.95 for 12 issues kind of magazine. So this is not some fly by night article that hardly anyone is going to see. I am not going to stoop down to the level of some of the posters on here. It is embarrassing to read what some of you have typed. Do you hug your mother with those hands?

  • Rebecca

    I hear you saying that all who are opposed to this reality show are spewing hate but have yet to see this as a fact. The reality is that is all I see coming out of you who say you love these two, it's horrible what you say to anyone who doesn't agree with you all. I am neither a fan or not and I did go that site GWoP to see if it was as you say and that wasn't the impression I got, I found there to be a lot of ppl who are very concerned for these eight kids. I sure didn't see the hate spewing forth out of them as I have seen spewing out of your mouths in this comment section. The truth always comes out, no one needs to worry about that.

  • Jenna

    To everyone calling me and other Gwoppers "trailer trash" – I live in Scandinavia and have WAY more money than the Gosselins. The price of living over here is much higher than America. My house is a bit smaller than Kate and Jon's McMansion, but about twice as expensive. Oh, and to whoever said that GWOP posts cruel things about the children – LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, protecting the children is one of the first rules shown. The mods are very strict about that. We do NOT make fun of the children.

  • LOL

    What a crock. I laugh because this story mostly stems from a group of haters from a hater site and even they are calling "BS" on the story now because it isn't what they thought it would be (they wanted it even more hate filled). LOLOLOL! They thought this trashy story would damage the family. Nope. Think again. You all need to get a life already and change the damn channel if you don't like what you see. It's common sense people.

  • K

    Too all the people who think that that trash site is full of people "concerned" for the kids, BS! If you took the time to read over the threads and posts you will quickly see that it is filled with MORE comments on Kate's hair, her body, her earrings, her tan, her workout routine, Jon's hair, their teeth whitening, their new furniture, etc., rather than with any real concern for the kids. Don't let them fool you. They are not concerned for those kids. People who are concerned for kids don't write 500 posts trash talking someone's hair and how "unfair" it is that the G's get free vacations and they don't. It's nothing more than jealousy. Plain and simple!

  • alison

    I think the reason people are discussing Kate's hair, weight, earrings, new designer clothes and that tan *shudder* is because Kate is making millions off of being this harried mother of 8!! yes, she pleads 8 children. She doesn't come across as a mother of 8. She looks like she's evolving into some kind of pseudo celebrity wannabe. What mother of 8 has time for many, many spa visits, as Jon claimed at his speech at a PA University. He said she goes more than just once a month. (Kate claimed she used money *sent* to her for her spa visits). So, yeah, people are going to snark and remark when it's so in their face.

  • Tina

    Thank you for tell the truth, I miss the older shows, and feel sad it has come to this.

  • Anonymous

    GWOPERS, Please answer these questions:–If the Gosselin children are truly abused, why haven't the authorities or DFCS investigated Kate and John after they've been seen on TV for 4 years?

  • Jamie

    I'm glad someone has finally spoken out about GWOP and how they personally know the Gosselins and were neighbors with them. I live in the same subdivision where Jon and Kate just moved from. They were doing the TV show when they moved here and never really neighbored with people. Also, "Aunt Jodie" lives just down the street and is friends with a lot of Moms around here. She was always nicer than Kate and while she was on the show, I think show buffered people's reactions because people like Jodie. Once she left the show and her friends were mad, it was open season on Kate. I don't blame Jodie, friends and sisters can be hard to control. But, that's how GWOP got started. Several of the founders were neighbors with Kate and Jodie and know both personally. Jodie's firing from the show just lite the match. This has just taken on a life of its own. I personally don't understand people putting so much energy and time into talking about the Gosselins. I work with abused (REAL ABUSE) children

  • Christine

    but GWOP was going strong long before Jodi left the show. Your timeline is misleading.

  • All Kids R Worthy

    RE: I used to like watching the kids, but always felt a little guilty about it. It was always off-putting to me that Jon and Kate would shrug their shoulders and say, "We took the risk and we lost,"…. What a Cavalier Attitude for Kate to say such a thing! I don't understand her logic – or lack of it – WHAT Exactly has she LOST? She wouldn't have what she has if not for her Scientifically Induced Multiple Births!!! If anyone has "Lost" anything it is her chilren and NOT Kate — they have lost their privacy and can you say KER-CHING??!! Are there even any trust accounts set up for each child ???

  • Christine

    I think most of the people who are opposed to this show would say the kids are being exploited, not abused. No one knows what the consequences of growing up in the camera's eye will be to these kids but past history of child actors seems to suggest it won't be pretty. I for one am astounded that parents would take that chance with their kids.

  • Anonymous

    When you criticize others in such a hateful manner, it says more about you than the person your criticizing.

  • Christine

    So if you saw someone severely beating a child you would do nothing since they've already been beaten? What the critics want to do is stop those kids from being filmed with no restrictions and avoid any additional harm being caused. Hopefully the process will lead to child labor laws being passed for all kids on reality shows so no kids have to go through this again.

  • Diane

    I was interesting in reading the comments after the article to see how the supporters would defend Jon and Kate. What did I find? Nothing. All they can come up with is calling those of who see through the scam nasty names. A sampling: garbage, illiterate morons, misogynistic (pretty sure the person who wrote that doesn't even know the definition),trailer park shut-ins, white trash, and amazingly stupid c**ts. And they say we need to get a life!

  • KNOWLINGLY CREATING HIGH

    IF THEY HAD EACH OF THESE CHILDREN ONE AT A TIME – would they even have received all the "Love Donations" – Monies – Freebies and Have a T.V. Show??? I THINK NOT! I could understand all the help if someone had multiples "Naturally" BUT SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES should be the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the PARENTS WHO "ELECTED/CHOSE" to KNOWINGLY have this procedure FULLY INFORMED and AWARE that MULTIPLE BIRTHS were a STRONG (if Not) ALMOST ABSOLUTE POSSIBILITY. The parents are even told that this type of procedure has a high likelihood of resulting in multiple births PRIOR to undergoing the procedure. It baffles the mind that these parents were NOT only NOT PREPARED to AFFORD multiples but then CONTINUE TO TAKE HANDOUTS WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY BETTER OFF THAN SO MANY OTHERS! IS THERE NO END TO THE " SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES" HANDOUTS/BEGGING??? — VERY SAD TO IMPLY THAT CHILDREN WHO ARE BORN " ONE AT A TIME " ARE SOME HOW LESS WORTHY OF RECEIVING ALL THE HANDOUTS

  • Alison

    I was responding to the posters who write "why do people think criticizing the Gosselins now is going to help," and "it's too late, now, to advocate for the kids." Maybe so, but if laws are written against this type of programming on behalf of minor children, it will be a good thing. If not, can you even imagine what type of shows OUR kids will be watching some day? What's next for TLC – live executions?

  • Jen

    I have a real problem with people who are laissez-faire about the possible damage that has been done to the kids. If there has been damage, the best possible course of action is to stop the show as soon as possible. Letting it go on, under the assumption that the "damage has already been done" is writing off the kids and their future as disposable. Do I think the kids are abused? No. Do I think they are being pimped out for money? Absolutely. For those of you who are parents (I am a parent) can you honestly say that you would risk your child's emotional health, their ability to relate to people not on tv, and their ability to have a more "normal" life with some privacy for money? I think that most of the people who say they would do the same, are not yet parents. Because as a parent, my job and my husband's job is to work to provide for my kids…not the other way around. I would never take the chance that the Gosselins are taking with their kids' futures. Money isn't everything, at le

  • alison

    **I am also well aware that articles like this do nothing but boost more awareness for the show.** Well, then that's a good thing, Shelley. If making viewers aware of the scam these two "Christians" are pulling, then we need more articles *like this.*

  • All Babies R Worthy

    When you Scientifically Induce Multiples this IS NOT a Miracle.That the innocent babies survived their high risk multiple births created by their own parents who knowingly put them in the high risk category in the first place NOW THAT IS A MIRACLE !!

  • kc

    Thank you for this – while I find the show entertaining, recently I have realized that American's obsession with multiples is becoming plain weird. When Nadya Suleman gave birth and the media didn't realize she wasn't married, unemployed and already had 6 other kids, everyone was ready to CELEBRATE her! That is ridiculous.

  • alison

    I used to like watching the kids, but always felt a little guilty about it. It was always off-putting to me that Jon and Kate would shrug their shoulders and say, "We took the risk and we lost," and expect so much help for their own decisions. It was as if they were saying that they, themselves, were NOT responsible for having sextuplets and twins. They were entirely responsible and should have thought things through financially, as well as how to provide emotionally for 8 kids. They seem very immature to expect so much for making such a drastic decision.

  • Anonymous

    I've read several posts in which people claim the kids are abused (for example, read All Abuse is ABUSE).Yes, I aggree with the negative effects that may happen down the road. But sadly, if any damage has been done to the kids, it's already happened. So how can articles like these and the GWOP website truly help the kids now? Can you reverse psychological damage? If not, GWOP website is not helping.

  • Check

    Posted by caroline | Feb. 26, 2009 at 8:18 PMCOMMENT:Check out the Jon and Kate Plus 8 ratings next time you get a chance…they're off the charts.—————Yea, Caroline the ratings are 'off the charts'. Sorry to tell you that they are going off the bottom. For week ending 2/24/09 (which would be airdate 2/17) the show was ranked 36th FOR CABLE! JON & KATE PLUS 8 TLC Mon 09:00P-09:30P 2,952 (that's under 3mil viewers) From TV By the Numbershttp://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/24/wwe-raw-the-closer-and-monk-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/13386#more-13386

  • Jen

    All reality shows end. Unfortunately, they usually end after the show, concept and principals have been bled dry, raked over the coals and had a fall from grace. That is the nature of most reality shows. If that is what parents want for their kids, then Jon and Kate I guess are good role models. But this show *will* end, it's just a matter of when and how. The track record on reality shows is not great and we don't have experience with this many kids in this type of situation. This is what I'm talking about…it's such a risk to take with your kids that I can't fathom why a parent would do this.

  • Christine

    But why pile on? What's next, a very special episode of J&K – Mady's first gyno visit? While I don't think most people tolerate the truly extreme emotions on either side, talking about the show on websites does publicize the fact that there are concerns out there. After all, the Gosselin PR firm floods the media with "everything is rosy" articles all the time – why not be able to offer up the opposing view?

  • Alison

    I think the effects of being filmed will haunt Mady and Cara for the rest of their lives. The little ones may stand a chance IF the show is cancelled immediately. Kate says they don't know anything different, but I think the little ones are beginning to notice that they are "different." I just worry about what is going to become of the children when the Gosselin empire falls, because I believe from what we've seen of Jon and Kate's attitude on the show, that they will take it out on the children. And I hope they reconcile with some family and friends (I doubt Kate will budge on that), so there is a support system for the Gosselin children when this all falls apart. Thank you to the Anonymous poster who answered my earlier question about where are all their friends to defend them.

  • Anonymous

    If the purpose of the critics is to end the show, that won't erase the problems. If the critic's claim they're main concern is the emotional trauma left on the children, news flash: just because the show ends, doesn't mean the kids' emotional damage ends, just like that in an instant. Emotional scars last as they grow up, long after the filming stops. So how are the critics & GWoP truly helping the kids? Are they GWoPers going to pay for their counseling after the show ends? Ending of show does not = end of emotional damage.

  • Anonymous

    Only one typo and no misspellings? No way is that Jon then!

  • Alison

    It may not help the Gosselin children, since the damage is probably done, but it just may prevent networks from damaging other children in the future. I think we'll see something like Gosselin Syndrome somewhere down the road.

  • Shelly

    To everyone out there that thinks there are no fan sites out there, they double or even triple the two hate sites that are even out there. And I'm not talking about boards. Just because I fan site only gets a couple of comments doesnt mean it there arent 5-10,000 hits a day. No matter who it comes from, people are still reading the sites. There are over 30 Jon & Kate Fan sites on MySpace alone as well as Facebook. I am proud to have one of them.Baby Mama's Gosselin fan site is just one of the many more popular sites and I'm happy to say that I support her site as well as my own. I am also well aware that articles like this do nothing but boost more awareness for the show. The comments on this site are truly embarrassing. People that even comment about the children should be ashamed of themselves. GWOP has changed their story several times as o whether they knew,know, or have friends that know the Gosselins. I see now that no one is to believed and there are sneaky people like Jessi

  • Christine

    We were all playing so nice until you got here. In case you didn't notice, we were actually having an intelligent, adult discussion about the issues without resorting to name calling. It's a shame people like you have to come in and stir up the drama. But I guess misdirection is an effective technique when you have no defense.

  • Tiffany

    The show isn't being canceled immediately. In fact, thanks to the curiosity from this article looks like they will get paid in the millions for season 6. Don't you realize the more interest in them the more they get? Yet all people do is talk more and gripe more and truly look like jealous miserable people. I not a fan but even I thought this was a horribly biased article. When I read how she went on these sites looking for gossip it makes my skin crawl. Why couldn't she do an article that didn't sound like it came from Serena's mouth?

  • Christine

    Sorry, I meant that to Shelly.

  • Jen

    Money isn't everything, at least not to people who aren't greedy and consumed with materialism.

  • Avi

    THANK YOU for this article. THANK YOU for getting the word out. THANK YOU for being another writer to expose these two HAGS and JOBLESS BUMS for what they are – CHILD EXPLOITERS. Hey Jon and Kate – get REAL JOBS to support your family. STOP MAKING YOUR KIDS WORK FOR YOU! You greedy bastards! Karma is a bitch and all this will come back to get you in the end!!!!!

  • UDon'tMakeSense

    If this is true then surely TLC with all of their money will fight tooth and nail to "Set the record straight" for Kate and Jon ???? ~~ They have a t.v. show, their own official website(s) and more – ~~ WHY Would you even create your own fan site for Jon & Kate if, as you claim, there are already so many Jon & Kate fan sites ALREADY out there??? That seems very strange to say the least!

  • Rebecca

    See to those that say there are no Jon & Kate supports that came on here your wrong. I am a huge Jon & Kate supporter, but yet my comment was buried beneath all the hatred, bickering and nasty comments. We all know this does nothing but keep the show on and make it more popular season after season. Speaking for the fans, we are happy to see that this so called "hate article provided nothing but laughs and 500 comments. I am a working mother with a wonderful husband and family and I love watching Jon & Kate Gosselin and her kids. It breaks my heart to read some of the things said here. But it will come and go and thank goodness the show will go on.

  • Christine

    People would actually take you seriously if you turn off the caps locks, stop shouting and quit the name calling. Sorry to all the intelligent posters who were actually disagreeing without being disagreeable.

  • ThinkForYourself

    I sincerely mean no disrespect when I say that I find it quite unnatural and rather unhealthy that anyone would become so interwined with any reality show when they are merely being shown that which the family/network decides to air. It boggles the mind.

  • alison

    It's these little kids' real lives being shown to millions! Everything from diaper changes to meltdowns, to punishments is being shown so that the parents can *stay* home with the children. For those of you saying that this is the only way the Gosselins could afford their family of ten financially, why all the extra stuff then? Why not make what you need, get the kids in school, get back to jobs and give your children their privacy back? It's just a huge, huge mistake to have these children filmed so much. The kids are even starting to look uncomfortable with the cameras in recent episodes. I don't *hate* Jon and Kate. I don't know them. What I see on tv and read in the news and the speaking engagement reports just leaves me slackjawed. During a FAQ episode, when Kate was asked about the effect this show will have on the kids, she said: "We don't worry about the kids." It's glaringly obvious, Kate.

  • Jon Gosselin

    The show will continue as long as the fans show us their support. When the show is done Kate and I will continue to write books and tell our very unique story. If you don't like us watch another show. If you do enjoy watching our program please continue, no one is forcing anyone to watch. Please quit talking about my children and wife, Ii only makes you look bad. My children are healthy and happy are yours? This article is all speculation from the authors point of view -

  • Kate Gosselin

    JOOOONNNNN!! Get off that !@#$$ computer and come and wipe your icky son's ass!!! Are you listening to me? What did I say? Men!! I could just shoot you right now!!

  • IsHeForReal

    Can you be just as outspoken regarding the following 2 posts: SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES = $$ and FREEBIES?? WHY? ~~ AND ~~ ITS A MIRACLE** It would be great to hear your reply (if it is indeed you? Could you also kindly explain how it makes others look bad ?? Did you honestly expect only praise and compliments when you put your family in the public eye – warts and all ???

  • amy

    I wish this article would've given more info on Beth. I think it is such a shame that she is gone, now, too. And I am sure it is not over money or compensation-clearly she has financial means. She seemed so giving, caring, and IN LOVE with those kids. Makes me wonder if the kids liked her better than Kate. In which case, POOF! Another family "friend" bites the dust.

  • Lynn

    Thank you for a very well written article. Hopefully this will bring more of the truth out, as well as more awareness towards the exploitation of the children on this show.

  • Jon Gosselin

    Beth and her husband are very close friends of our family. They have decided not to participate in our show, as is their right. Rumors and speculation.

  • Jen

    Funny how you were asked to contribute to the article, "Jon" but didn't. Hmm, why post in the comments? Of course, some people will think this is really him which is kind of sad.

  • Kelly

    shouldn't you be doing something with the kids since you're a "stay at home Dad" ?? Hurry up – Happy Hour is just in a few hours….

  • Ellen

    If Beth and her husband are still close friends with your family, then WHY doesn't Kate at least acknowledge her on the book tours?? Why does Kate refer to the book as HERS – as if she wrote it herself?

  • sara

    To those of you who think it's OK for Jon and Kate to pimp out their kids, because how else would they feed them? It's called hard work and juggling. The Dilley family did it with their sextuplets and they BOTH worked. They moved out of the house that was donated to them at cost and moved closer to family to a smaller home. Because Jon & Kate pissed both sides of their families off with their shameful panhandling, they no longer have contact with family. I'm sure it wasn't sexy or glamorous, no spas or trips to Hawaii. But they did what they had to do to support the six kids they brought into this world without begging or exploiting. That is a family I can admire and be a fan of. Not two loser deadbeats who now think they are Posh Spice and David Beckham.

  • ILOVEJON

    ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED. People, while it is clear that we all disagree to some extent on this show, we all agree that we adore these little children. Wasting this energy on hating the Gosselins is doing no one any good. You're expending so much energy in hate when you could be turning that frown upside down and paying is forward. Know what I mean?

  • ILOVEJON

    So glad I didn't miss anything when I signed off of this over 24 hours ago. You guys are still going at it?? HMMMMM….if the Gosselins are reading this (which I am sure Jon is lurking in the shadows still), they are the ones having the last laugh. Can't we all get along? World Peace, Blah Blah Blah…???

  • OnceUponANightmare

    Our life is the show and the show is our life. Boy will she be disappointed when it's over. Sad sad sad ……

  • Jon Gosselin

    Anyone can photo shop a picture. Don't be fooled.

  • Mike

    Hey Jon hanging out at the bar with Melanie again this weekend?

  • Mike

    Especially an IT guy ain't that right Jon?Tool!

  • Christine

    Sorry – it's phillymag.com

  • Anonymous

    When the critics/GWoPERS actually produce any real, tangible results and help for these children or any children for that matter, let us know. I think we'll be waiting a long time. I'm sure the empty, useless rants on GWoP of how badly Kate applies her make-up, how she sits on the couch next to John, how her hair looks skunk-like, etc is helping a great deal.

  • Mike

    and what exactly are YOU doing to help them? Giving them your hard earned money for spa days, golf days, condos in Utah, barhopping…while they keep on pimpin their kids out? You wouldn't know 'tangible evidence' if it hit you in your heads. Photographic & televised proof is out there and you are still too frigging daft to recognize or accept it as fact!

  • sara

    People who think the Gosselins are being attacked because they are jealous of how rich they got from the show- think again. Jon and Kate have been terrorizing Central PA since the day the tups were born. The Reading Eagle has archives of blogs (which are still online, please Google them) about how they constantly whined for cash, a van, gift cards, how they mistreated volunteers, it goes on & on. In 2005 they appealed the state of PA over and over again because their Medicaid nurse service was ending. They didn't MEDICALLY need the nurse, they just wanted to still have her (because they are incompetent idiots.) Also KAtie Irene told 3 different reporters that society should pay for her kids. Until someone told her that was a stupid thing to say. Then she had it all retracted. This all happened in 2004-2005. BEFORE the show. They were shady bastards then and still are almost five years later.

  • ILOVEJON

    They are shady, but to call them bastards…..common' guys. Show some class. LOVE LOVE LOVE IS ALL YOU NEED

  • Mike
  • ALL KIDS R WORTHY

    Chemically induced Multiple Births. Not Looks, Not Talent, Not Intelligence, and the list goes on and on… Nadya Suleman has 14 kids and everyone hates her. Kate and Jon have 8 and Fans all over the place who claim to CARE about CHILDREN… Why aren't Kate and Jon and ALL Their Fans caring about the 14 babies (from Nadya Suleman)… WHAT A DISGRACE!! Apparently babies and children are NOT the TRUE AGENDA… SHAMEFUL

  • Jay

    Come on, folks, let's get this out of the blog world and out in the open. There needs to be legislation out there to protect kids on reality TV shows. Write to your Assemblymen, your Congressmen, your Senators, Child Advocate Groups, anyone and everyone you can think of who would be in a position to respond to this need.When children become more than just children, when they become the family business, you are walking a very fine line. It's best to err on the side of caution here, if you think the Gosselin children are being exploited do something more than moan, groan, and curse about it. Get fired up. All this fighting back and forth will do nothing to protect these kids. Having a voice is good, getting this issue recognized is wonderful but get pro-active. Stop the hate. Stop the rhetoric. Get these kids the help you think they need and deserve.

  • Syl

    Can't be Jon writing. Too literate.He must be copying from a memo written by his PR rep.

  • Mike

    Here, watch your 'father of the year' (read sarcastically, please) explain about marketing his children once they learned they hit the mother lode of multiples. Be sure to watch all 3 parts of Jon's BS. There's some tangible proof for you that CANNOT be taken out of context!http://www.kutv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=77940@kutv.dayport.com&navCatId=62

  • Allie

    I'm glad that someone in the media has the guts to write a real article about Jon and Kate Gosselin. We're in the middle of a tanking economy, people are losing their jobs and homes, and Jon and Kate supporters are STILL opening their wallets and giving these con artists money. They live in a million dollar home, make hundreds of thousands of dollars, and are sitting pretty all because of the people foolish enough to believe that they still "need help." Why can't people donate to support a real cause like the food pantry or to help the homeless? Yes, the Gosselin kids are cute, but they aren't seeing a dime of that money, guaranteed, because Jon and Kate are using it for their own selfish reasons. I do not support Jon and Kate Gosselin, nor do I support TLC and any other company that believes their scam.

  • Elena

    "Kate talked about clipping coupons and stretching a dollar, and wore sweatshirts and little makeup; Jon worked full-time, and his mellow, youthful mien complemented his wife’s no-nonsense demeanor. Their challenges appeared genuine and many, and Kate became an inspiration to stressed-out moms who, after watching, could summon a bit more courage — If she can do it with eight, I can handle mine."This is what initially drew me to the show — the realness of it. The exaggeration of my own life, multiplied by 8. Now… it's SO commercial. They've become TV show characters instead of real people — with tummy tucks, hair transplants, teeth whitening, tanning trips to Hawaii, etc. Now that they're "stars," I can't relate. And to know that they're still asking for MORE? A 1.3 million dollar house, filled with brand-new floors, appliances (two washers and two dryers, by the way), and furniture isn't enough for them to feel "blessed"? Remember when Kate used to say she felt "blessed"

  • Anonymous

    Here are some rude comments the people who CLAIM to be advocating for are making on GWoP posts: Alexis is quite the terror/Alexis has a major attitude problem/Are they all little Michael Phelps' in the making? Obviously not Aaden..he's a rock./Mady’s behavior is bratty and inappropriate/On Hannah’s hair: I think it is ridiculous and not cute at all. I hope she gets lice and has to get a buzz cut.”You're helping these children by talking trash about them & embarrassing them on the internet?

  • Elena

    with a healthy family? My how times have changed. Cara's sullenness, Mady's temper tantrums, Hannah's model behavior… all of these are cries for attention from the parents that are hardly there. Hopefully TLC will pay attention and see the damage they are doing!

  • Mike

    The ONLY thing TLC and Jon and Kate Gosselin care about is the almighty $$. If they truly gave a rat's arse about those 8 kids the show would have been terminated a long time ago.

  • Anonymous

    Here are some rude comments made by GWoPERS about the kids, the same people who CLAIM to be advocating for them: Alexis is quite the terror/Alexis has a major attitude problem/Are they all little Michael Phelps' in the making? Obviously not Aaden..he's a rock./Mady’s behavior is bratty and inappropriate/On Hannah’s hair: I think it is ridiculous and not cute at all. I hope she gets lice and has to get a buzz cut.–All comments made by GWoPPERS. You're helping these children by trash talking them & embarrassing them on the internet? Yeah, your credibility is so admirable.

  • Jay

    We've all heard Kate say worse things about her kids (the boys are icky, Mady is ugly, just to name two of Kate's loving phrases involving her kids), so let's not even go there. Are you kidding me with trying to put them in their place? Maybe these people were just having a bad day, maybe they were just stressed, or whatever the nonsense excuses you always make up for Kate's insane behavior. Why do always, always excuse Kate's atrocious behavior but never, never excuse the bad behavior of your other fellow members of the human race? It's astonishing. I think Jon, Kate, the haters, and the lovers are all insane. You are all stalkers and those kids suffer most.

  • Stephen

    Kate your GIG IS UP we now know what we have thought you are in it for the Dollars,seek a counselor who can help you ,now you have children whos life is wrecked over your greed how do you sleep at night,Jon leave her or she will continue to drag you down with her Family services in PA Needs to take a close look at Kate,no wounder we see you at times on the show acting nervous mental health is there to help people like you get the help you need now!please so the children will have a chance to have a mother who is mentaly better.Poor kids,we need to stop watching the show low rateing will do the jon,enough is really enough Boycot this show inorder to help the children anf family services look into this matter its your job.Do it for the children please!

  • Caden Canyon

    And if this was some gushy "the Gosselins are the beginning the here and now and the end of the Earth", would you call THAT type of article "journalism"? If one pointed out that it seemed like a fluff piece INFOMERCIAL, how would you feel? None of you sheeples (the word being ohhhh, so accurate; mindless sheep following along, question nothing, do as your told and accept what's said w/out question). You're sickening hypocrites, and I'd love throw your worthless carcasses on a deserted island so you could like in all your KON bliss.Geez. Jim Jones enough for ya lol????????? [I welcome reponses: tweet@yahoogroups.com]

  • sara

    None of the *alleged* comments GWOPers have made come even close to how nasty Kate has been to Jon and the kids. If that is how she treats them when she's on national TV- what in the hell does she say to them when the cameras are off?!

  • Courtney

    "Our life is the show and the show is our life. Boy will she be disappointed when it's over. Sad sad sad"…………I don't think she will be sad. I think she will happy. She strikes me as an introvert at heart. She will be sitting in a nice home with beautiful children and a nice figure and the hags that criticize her every move? Well, unfortunately, they will still be themselves.

  • Anonymous

    "I think the reason people are discussing Kate's hair, weight, earrings, new designer clothes and that tan *shudder* is because Kate is making millions off of being this harried mother of 8!!"…..I'll your point, but also point out that many of these same posters were making fun of Kate's imaginary fat butt 5 or 6 months ago. So I think there is more at play here than feeling she has improved her looks on the backs of her children. There is a group of committed bloggers who find fault in every aspect of Kate's being and there is really nothing they consider out of line.

  • Serenity Now

    """I'd love throw your worthless carcasses on a deserted island so you could like in all your KON bliss."""==========This 'adult' response is all too typical of anyone who dares to disagree with the GWoP bullies and their associates. The idea that any of you are parents scares me to death.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible also warns us not to judge…OUTSIDERS! We are definately suppose to judge other Christians—that is what the Bible says! So, do not be telling me that I should not judge Kate. I am a Christian, and so is she. It is in fact our duty to warn her that she is living in sin!

  • Anonymous

    allison parker said…Surprise surprise Kate is holding Hannah again. What is so special about Hannah anyway? Other than (in my opinion) the least cutest of the girls? I am happy that the camera focused on Alexis, the cutest!!!

  • Anonymous

    Having Hannah on her lap… Gee I wonder why. Perhaps it is to put her in a better mood which it did. Her and Jon slobering all over Hannah was nauseating. It was actually a little gross when she was sitting on Jon's lap.

  • Anonymous

    I noticed while Hannah was being fawned over how chunky she is. Her legs and belly are really big compared to the rest of the kids. I wonder if Kate doesn't give her extra treats while she is "helping" in the kitchen. Something is going on there for her to be that much bigger than the other kids while eating identical meals. I think Alexis and Leah will be fine even without being the favorite, they both have a natural self confidence that Hannah doesn't have. And Alexis and Leah are the prettiest of the kids…

  • Anonymous

    I've been thinking about Hannah. I feel like it's a peasant family where only the most cherished child gets the food/love/attention. Have you seen how big that girl in in comparison to the other kids? It's not just height but weight too. I have to think that much of that is coming from the extra doting she gets as the favored child, then the other children, like Aeden and Alexis are so small.

  • Anonymous

    Travis Noodle said… Okay the phrase "tricked Jon into having sex with her?" just strikes me now. I've heard it before but now I'm realizing how disturbed Kate really is. Most normal men love sex. But Kate needs to trick her husband into having relations. What is wrong with that picture? There is so much that could say but I won't go any further – out of respect for this board.

  • J.J.

    But the difference is They are Kates kids, and just b/c she said boys are icky, oh my lord she didn't cut their little head off, she has never said as mean as GWoP has, How about when one of the mods on that site said "Aaden when you are 5 call me" now that is sick shit, and you defend them, and who ever said they read their site and couldn't find the nasty things they said about the kids, well it's b/c they have changed it all around, I don't care what the top of the page says, they have said terrible things about those kids. Now defend them some more, they are awful ppl. And they call them selves moms and wives and women, what a dis-grace

  • Anonymous

    CountryGirl said… Ok I have to say this! When I saw Kate pouring the filtered water into the pots I literally screamed at the t.v. Now common folk like myself when cooking use tap water. I was raised to believe if I boiled water long enough it would take out any thing bad in the water.

  • Kimberly

    I'am so happy for their family. I think they are great parents and they work hard for all that they have. I would love to baby sit for them!

  • Anonymous

    I'm thinking the cameraman is a pedophile. That was a GROWN man, probably 3 feet away and on the floor himself, while she was writing around with her legs spread apart. I know Jen was there, too, because she is asking the questions, but she should have known better and told that cameraman to back off. That whole basement scene was creepy and I am so surprised more people are not upset about that.

  • Sara

    Kate got pregnant on purpose to have a HOM. After Kate was hospiltilized for hyperstimulated ovaries, her doctor refused to inseminate her and Kate, as usual, became her usual bitch self and went home and her and Jon boy did the deed. Kate was purposely told that she SHOULD NOT have intercourse for the fear of having HOM. Kate had this planned out from the beginning that she was going to have multiples for the money and fame. Kate, we both know it and now so does the public. Face it you are sick and evil for using your children for publicity. Even you own family knows it Kate. Your own family knows what you did. They know that you got pregnant on purpose right after the hospilization and that's why they have a problem with you and Jon. Because you played God and are exploiting your children. You make me sick and you make your family sick.

  • Anonymous

    Cara and Mady bitched about plates, they couldn't get along and Cara is too much of a pussy wimp to stand up to her.What was the shots of Hannie and her snotty head bobs/turns? Sorry to state the obvious: Mady is a brat. Why is it so many think sheis this misunderstood, poor little kid. If you were watching tonight,you saw her in all her glory.Cute, these kids ain't. They are entitled, spoiled, rotten children who are a direct product of their greedy parents. Mady is awful. Cara is pathetic. Hannah is manipulative. Alexis speaks like a two-year-old. Who does that leave? Oh yeah, all the others just scream constantly.

  • Anonymous

    Are you screwing everyone or just the coeds in PA?

  • Charlene

    Real abusePosted by Anonymous | Feb. 27, 2009 at 7:54 AMCOMMENT:GWOPERS, Please answer these questions:–If the Gosselin children are truly abused, why haven't the authorities or DFCS investigated Kate and John after they've been seen on TV for 4 years? **************************************************How do you know Berks County Children and Youth Services HAVENT been investigating the Gosselins?

  • Anonymous

    Julie: As I stated before, I don't know Penn Mommy, but I have communicated with her. She has told me things that I've never seen online and I know are true. The same goes with her blog. Her posts confirm things that I know Kate has said or done. I've never seen that information before, anywhere. The details she gave leads me to believe that she is a real person who has been involved and has had direct contact with J&K. She knows I am Jodi's sister. Don't you think if this were just someone compiling information or making things up that she would have stayed away from me? I can easily verify what she has said.She freely offered me information, more than I even asked for. None of the information(about J&K)she gave me or I read on her blog was made up. I have confirmed that it is all true.

  • Anonymous

    Mom on the Run said… Last night I found the William/Jonas blog. I clicked on the "About the Author": it was PennMommy, which I found odd since it was William's blog. There were two blogs listed under PennMommy: "Our Words" and "the realgamesgosselinsplay." I clicked on the realgames blog and found a message that it was for invited readers only. The authors of real games are "Lonnyswife ThreeFarmers Jules IMHO Barbara momof5 K.C. PennMommy Aire Zoe" All of these names have appeared as commenters on Gosselin blogs. Why would these people start a blog with PennMommy if PM is a fake? Do they know that PM is a fake?After reading your two posts, I clicked on ThreeFarmers name. Her about the author NOW shows that the "realgames" blog is now called "Menopause Is Painful." The same authors are listed and the blog is for invited readers only. I have no idea what is going on, but thought someone should know.

  • Clueless Jon

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  • Maggie

    Yes we should talk about the "best interest" of the kids, which is seldom done, and yes they are called all kinds of names, We should never try to crucify them or their parents, what purpose does that seve, and then you mentioned the president, evidently your president, not mine mister, and so what if he gets talked about, that idiot has our very lives in his hands, not any thing K&J do will hurt me either way. but your president can and will hurt us bad. I will not debate him on here, he's not worth my key board, and you worry about J&K? you better do some serious research on your man, well at least on Jennifer. Good golly miss molly. This is endorced by Maggie!!!

  • Anonymous

    I'm enjoying the "fun trip down memory lane" – I'd forgotten that the GWOPPERs accused both Jon and the cameraman of being pedophiles. That's when one of their charming number made reference to a "money shot" – a porn term – when talking about Mady innocently rolling around on the floor. But Jon and Kate are worse than the GWOPPERs. Yeah, right. I don't know if there are ten people who post there under different names, or a 100, but they are to a woman, crazy as bessiebugs. These are the comments that this reporter finds "The brickbats are surprisingly well-written and thought-out, and even for the newly initiated, the arguments are hard to refute" – accusing innocent men of sexual perversion?

  • Wendy Bird

    OK, this is just ridiculous! Someone has used my name over here, as well. I didn't make that post on the 26th, I was on an airplane moving out of state. What is wrong with you idiots who post under the names of people who post on GWOP?

  • ThreeFarmers

    For the life of me, I do not understand how my name can still show up in a post blathering on about other blogs. For a short time, I posted on another blog with a few other people. I removed myself from that blog SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. I do not have my own blog and I am not an owner or moderator on any other blog. Seriously, I've always made myself available through email on my blogspot profile and, rather just asking me directly, people allow speculation to take them to ridiculous places. If you have questions, just ask. I always will give good, honest answers to good, honest questions.I don't need validation from anyone (Jodi, Julie, PM) to affirm my distaste for the exploitation of the Gosselin children (BTW, I believe the Duggars and the other families who have a show because of their children are equally as guilty of exploitation). Thanks to TLC, plenty of verification is broadcast daily for the world to see. I came back here because I heard identities were being stol

  • Deborah

    Why does this bother you, as long as there is no abuse or neglect, its really not our business.The children are loved and taken care of, who cares where the money comes from? At least its not from the government.Please tell me, who among you would pass a chance to make money while having fun, and being with your kids.Not too many, I'd say.

  • J.J.

    you really think we care how much money you have? NO, do you think we care how big your house is? I don't. and who cares where you live, you can brag about your favorite blog all you want and talk about the rules they have on the kids, but it's in plain site how bad they talk about those kids,Those Mods as you call them are not strict on any thing they say or do (such as stalking) they are only strict on ppl who would have a decent word to say, and there fore won't let any defenders in, Jenna you better stick to what you know, it's very plain you don't know them .

  • Marsha

    That people are defending Kate because they really love the show, and don't want to see it go. What's worse is that the would fight to see it stay, even at the expense of the children. You Gosselin fans should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting such a thing!SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!

  • Peaches

    The kids nude in front of the camera in shower scenes.The Kids being filmed using the bathroomCollins “constipated in the van” episodeKate acting mean towards the childrenThe parents calling the children namesThe lies the Gosselins have told to churches about Jon’s job issue (which has now been confirmed)Again, I’m not bashing. These just happen to be the things that i have an issue with, that I feel like have never been addressed-by the Gosselins, or the fans of them. I would love another view on all of it.

  • Untilitstoolate

    Several scenes on several episodes of this circus show the children in VERY compromising positions (naked, near naked, showering, using the bathrooms, fecal impaction, physical check-ups, etc.) Riddle me this one Batman, what caring parent with their child's best interests at heart allows this, for profit or not? The FCC may censor certain scenes with the blurred out little circles, BUT THE MAN BEHIND THE CAMERA AND THE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE EDITING DEPARTMENT HAVE SEEN THOSE KIDS IN COMPROMISING POSITIONS. How long until it's national news that another child porn ring was uncovered and video of the Gosselin kids was confiscated as evidence? Please tell me honestly, would you allow ANYONE to film or take photos of your child like that for any amount of cash? I wouldn't even allow the staff at the hospital take pictures of my newborn immediately after she entered this world UNTIL she was covered and swaddled.

  • J.J.

    because what ever J&K or the fans would say, you ppl would disect it and rip it to shreads any way, and b/c most of it is none of your business, as for Jon and his job, where did Jessica get that info? is it really true? I doubt it, most of the stuff you read is not true, espically from magazine articles and the media. Every talk show they have been on, all you do is rip it apart to fit your little pea sized brains, and call them liars, so why would they give a statement, if they give one, then every slime ball out there wants a piece,when are you ppl gonna get real and quit believeing every thing you read on these blogs, you call this stuff truthful? all it is, is gossip from other bloggers, there is no proof in what she has said and sure nothing that has not been talked about for ever, what was so great about this article? Nothing

  • Anonymous

    I just love the kids….. said… William,Your mom's blog was a refreshing reinforcement of what a lot of people thought. Upon hearing about your brother being rushed to hospital so far from home and mom going to his side all thoughts of the Gosselins left me. All I could think of was your brother, mom and family. I was glad to hear he was getting better, than devastated to hear the bad turns he took. I can only pray and think good thoughts and wishes for a speedy recovery for Jason and for your whole family to remain strong throughout this ordeal. Prayers and best wishes to all of you.Oh and one thought, I know J& K read this. Maybe they could show some "christianity and giving back and wish Jason a speedy recovery. It would not cost them any money or any donations. After all, Penn mommy gave unselfishly to them once. God is watching Gosselins!!!!!!

  • Elisa

    So much can be summed up about the Gosselins by checking their website, Six Gosselins. Their category "LAUGHTER" is STILL empty and under construction. Hilarious – and sad.

  • Peaches

    J.J said:"all you do is rip it apart to fit your little pea sized brains"I didn't attract anyone with my post. Call me a lot of things, but a pea brain I am not. I did not insult you, and would not insult you based on how you feel about Jon and Kate, yet you, without being provoked by me-at all-chose to call me a name. That is very very sad. I didn;t do one thing to you, personally or otherwise. If one of my children called another person a "Pea Brain" they would get a tome out, and would have a firm talking to about calling people names. It's not nice, I don't care how old you are.

  • Peaches

    Ok, here’s my one issue with the hard-core gosselin fansDefend Kates actions. I know it’s easy to blame all of the Jon and Kate fall-out on the Anti-gosselins sites, however there are obviously some issues that, if Jon and kate are innosent, they would make some sort of statement. I grew up learning that “people only hide things that they are ashamed of”. So why didn’t Jon and Kate grant Jessica an interview? What do they have to hide? If they have nothing, then i think they need to address some of these issues. Again, i’m not even trying to bash the Gosselins here, as much as I’m wondering why all Gosselin fans ever do is attack everyone else. I would love to hear (and I’m not being a smarta** when i say this) what the Gosselin fans have to say about the issues such as

  • Peaches

    I don't mind you sharing how you feel, I just think that everyone here is an adult. There should be a way to disagree without name calling, or all the nastiness, know what I mean? I do understand that some anti-gosselin people that make things up, or make things seem worse then they are. Please understand though, I know that there are people that don't agree with the show because of some of the reasons I listed in my other post. I happen to be one of them. I honestly care about the well being of the children, and it has been somewhat hard for me to ignore some of the things I've seen on the show.

  • TruthTeller

    "3 Farmers: I've always made myself available through email on my blogspot profile and, rather just asking me directly, people allow speculation to take them to ridiculous places."……..Can you not see the irony of your statement? 80% of GWoP is speculation and your blog has slightly more integrity than some of the other anti-Gosselin blogs (shudder). Yes, someone stole your name. I am sorry, but GWoP started that practice months ago. Ask the ladies of GDNNOP or the Princess Boards how many times that has happened to them. Your mods are fine with name stealing and allow the practice to continue. Lastly, 3Farmers, you may have been taken in by Penn Mommy until very late in the game. Who knows? I am not accusing you specifically. There may or may not have been a few that were "in the know" from the beginning. Why don't you share your involvement? GWoP clearly won't. Believe me, there are people willing to listen with an open mind.

  • J.J.

    Oh please don't bring that witch back here, she is such a liar, no one is gonna buy her crap any more, she has to be one of the sickest women I have ever heard about, to tell a story about her own son, (if she had one) just to get her name penned with the Gosselins is absurd, she had her fame now let it die with Jason, how sad a woman needs attention that bad, But wait Julie and GWoP bought the whole thing, hook, line and sinker, well apple didn't fall far from that tree did it?

  • J.J.

    Sorry for saying pea brain, I'm really sorry that, that is all you got out of the comment, Just exactly why J&K don't do interviews, b/c you all would just re-phrase every thing they said the way you wanted it, Lets face it, no matter what she says or does it's wrong, I've heard ppl say she ought to give back, well she did and it was called damage control, or they say the only reason she did this or that is b/c she read the blogs and it's damage control, B.S. she don't have to do damage control, I'm sure she couldn't care less what you say or think, Thats exactly why the Kate defenders as you call them don't say any thing, why it wouldn't matter.

  • Peaches

    For instance, I applaud the Gosselins for giving to St Jude. I too donate to the hospital. However, I, like many were bothered that it seemed that Kmart covered the cost of the toys that they gave out. Sure, it didn't matter to the kids who got them, but I think that people feel like they are getting all of these wonderful things (which I have no issue with)but instead of giving back from what they have, they gave back on someone elses tab. I just think that the Gosselins tend to have this "I deserve everything" attitude, and it turns people off. Sometimes they just come off as kind of ungreatful. I think that if they seemed more thankful of the awesome opportunities they've had, that the public would be a little more forgiving for other things. Also though, the nudity of the children really bothes me too. I think that even though I'm sure the Gosselins wouldn't put there kids out there on purpose, that there are creepy people out there that would love to see naked pictures of chil

  • Peaches

    of children. The parents have to pay attention to things like that. As sad as it is to live in a world where parents have to worry about those things-they do. I think that if they had a social worker on set to filter these things, and to give the final OK before a show hits the air- the kids would be better protected. I feel that way for ANY child on the set of ANY show– Not just Jon and Kate!

  • BabyNevaGonnaBeAMomma

    Ok. Kate gave a check to the Ronald McDonald House in Hershey. Filmed it. Got payed for the filming of such incident. Jon and Kate also drug eight children into a hospital full of very sick kids with compromised immune systems to get payed for filming yet another episode (x's 10) of them giving back, toys and books donated by sponsors no less. You do the math. Then tell me, how is it that they gave back, exactly, again?

  • Truth Hurts

    SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES = $$ and FREEBIES?? WHY?IF THEY HAD EACH OF THESE CHILDREN ONE AT A TIME – would they even have received all the "Love Donations" – Monies – Freebies and Have a T.V. Show??? I THINK NOT! I could understand all the help if someone had multiples "Naturally" BUT SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES should be the SOLE RESPONSIBILITY of the PARENTS WHO "ELECTED/CHOSE" to KNOWINGLY have this procedure FULLY INFORMED and AWARE that MULTIPLE BIRTHS were a STRONG (if Not) ALMOST ABSOLUTE POSSIBILITY. The parents are even told that this type of procedure has a high likelihood of resulting in multiple births PRIOR to undergoing the procedure. It baffles the mind that these parents were NOT only NOT PREPARED to AFFORD multiples but then CONTINUE TO TAKE HANDOUTS WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY BETTER OFF THAN SO MANY OTHERS! IS THERE NO END TO THE " SCIENTIFICALLY INDUCED MULTIPLES" HANDOUTS/BEGGING??? — VERY SAD TO IMPLY THAT CHILDREN WHO ARE BORN " ONE AT A TIME " ARE SOM

  • J.J.

    I so agree with you on the ungratefulness that they show, I to have been very dis-appointed in some things I see and hear from Kate espically, what nerves me is the constant remarks on how they do or do not do things and with no proof, how do we know that Jons ex-employer said Jon was lying? how do we know K-Mart gave the toys and J&K did not pay for them?, I know they were at the register with their wallet out, When Jon took Kate shopping for new clothes, some one on another blog said it was free, well no it wasn't, on a re-run you could plainly see/hear Kate saying as she handed over her credit card that they almost went over or did go over. But the person who made that remark, just made a different excuse for it. Yes they have had wonderful oppurtunoties but I've heard them say how blessed they are for all that they have been given, that they could have never done this on their own, Many times Kate has said that her kids are fortunate to have all the trips b/c she and Jon could not

  • Truth Hurts

    ARE SOME HOW LESS WORTHY. ITS A MIRACLEPosted by Anonymous | Feb. 27, 2009 at 8:59 AMCOMMENT:When you Scientifically Induce Multiples this IS NOT a Miracle.That the innocent babies survived their high risk multiple births created by their own parents who knowingly put them in the high risk category in the first place NOW THAT IS A MIRACLE !!

  • J.J.

    done this on their own, But then ppl get on here and call them every kind of nasty thing you can imagine, and yes they do it to the kids as well. I just wonder why ppl believe what some one else says they have heard , just b/c Jessica says Jons boss said that don't make it true, where did she get her info from, These ppl would be going on a talk show before telling some little magizine writer this stuff, and the list just goes on, some one will say "I think Kate is this or that and Jon done this" and a few threads down some one else is saying it as gospel truth. As for me if I don't see it on the show, I'm not believing it, I think they have enough to overcome with out ppl making up lies about them, There is another site where Jodi is retracting every thing Julie said, is it really Jodi? or is some one else just doing it for another blog? I wouldn't say it was Jodi. I do hope J&K can grow and get of the air waves and get the family in control, Jon says he is a christian, then he needs

  • J.J.

    to take control of his home starting with his wife first, those kids need unconditional love and discipline, they need dad and mom on the same page, and the screaming really needs to stop, by all of them, Peaches I am sorry if I offended you, That was not my intentions, you are right there is way to much fighting on here, a lot of it is no more than baiting others just to get a rile out of them. the internet is a place for coward as well as good intentions, and the cowards have a hay day with it, Thank you for you commments back to me and thank for being civil.

  • Rosemary

    What began as a cute show about harried parents coping with young mulitples has turned into a thirty minute infomercial of whatever product/trip they are hawking this week. Jon sells Play-Doh and outdoor playsets, Kate goes on and on about Whirlpool washers, the family goes on trips to fabulous resorts (who renews their vows after NINE years of marriage, anyway?). I am disturbed by the exploitation of these kids. Someday, they will go out in the real world where people will recall Colin's constipation, Mady's tanturms, Hannnah's pooping her pants, etc. No child deserves his or er most vulnerable moments preserved on videotape for the world to see. What a shame that the parents cannot see this, and what a shame that this show is a popular hit. TLC has created a Gosselin brand and no way will they let this show die a natural death. That's why they're purposley infantalizing these almsot 5 year olds–NAPS? HIGH CHAIRS AND BIBS? AND STILL FOCUSING ON POOP AND TOLIET ACCIDENTS. It makes me

  • sara

    Jon and Kate never refuted how Jon was fired after Mr. Rothermel spoke out because it was the truth. As far as Aunt Jodi "retracting" all her statements about the things she and her sister have said about Jon and Kate, again not true. Please provide a link to anywhere on the web where Jodi and Julie take back all the things they have said. Julie's website is now inactive because I can only surmise it is not worth the constant attacks from the pro-Gosselin crowd.

  • sara

    You people are having a very hard time accepting the fact that Jon and Kate have been lying to you for years. You desperately want to believe that "Jon was fired for wanting to put 6 babies on the insurance" because it's the core of the sympathy you all feel for 'poor Jon & Kate." Phila. Magazine could NOT make this claim if it was untrue. They would be served with a lawsuit immediately. You want proof you can see? You'll have to subscribe to the archives of the Harisburg, PA Patriot News, but in an article about all the babies coming home published on July 8th, 2004, Jon claimed he was fired because of the insurance, blah, blah. The next day Jon requested a retraction stating he was NOT fired due to the "demands of raising sextuplets" but for budgetary reasons. I live near Harrisburg. I remember articles about Jon's employer speaking out and rebutting Jon's lies because the man was receiving backlash for *allegedly* illegally firing Jon. Jon and Kate never refuted how Jon was

  • sara

    Why do you fans refuse to believe any facts that do not favor the Gosselins? No matter how much proof is provided, you flat out deny any unflattering fact. Yet, when 'someone' says they received an email from Jon and Kate's PR firm stating that was not Jon in those bar photos and they were photoshopped, you don't require proof of that email. You just go right along with it.

  • Jen

    I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand. This article, while it revealed little to people who have been watching this situation, did confirm (yes, confirm!) one thing: Jon and Kate have been lying to the public from Day One. The lie, about Jon being fired, was the catalyst for the outpouring of donations, sympathy, etc. But for that lie, they would have not received HALF of what they did and they had that planned all along. What part of this don't some of you get? That LIE was the beginning of this entire fiasco. Even when called on that lie, they had the audacity to continue to lie, in public, and in CHURCH for crying out loud to packs of people to garner sympathy and donations. This is not in dispute and if it were, Jon and Kate could easily have been interviewed, given their take on it or sued the magazine and the former employer. Again, what part of "liar" don't some of you understand?

  • Billy Jean that my name.

    Looking at the posts over the last 2 days I can see the cut and paste girls have been having fun. They have been sock puppeting for over a year now and its time both GWOP and GDDNOP realize they are being baited by these very "sick" and "twisted" individuals. They are getting the last laugh and the 'real' story of child exploitation get forgotten. Your letting these posers [margojata, highondegrassi, andrea, etc.] win folks.

  • Anonymous

    If you look up other posts by those same people on the regular Jon and Kate board some of them agree Kate is mean and that Jon is a jerk to the kids. Some also say the show should end. But go to the GWoP board and the same people copy and paste and take other comments out of context and mock them even if they agree with the basic idea. Makes no sense.

  • Grow

    It would be fantastic if the owners of this comment page would block & report the IP addresses those posters who have nothing better to do with their pitiful lives than launch these unprovoked attacks on people they have seem to an have issue with. Take your nonsense somewhere else-like your own stalking love sites! And btw, could you be any more ridiculous with this 'CrownPrincess' shite? I have no idea what it is but whatever it may be it looks pretty immature just from the title alone!

  • My name is Susan too

    I lost count at the number of times I read the words "hate" and "jealous" in this comment section. Really, people, how old are you? I am not a J&K fan anymore but I neither hate them nor am I jealous. It's just an extremely sad commentary on what greed does to one's common sense. Please folks, every time you write something, please remember this will be forever and that someday a Gosselin child might read it.

  • Anonymous

    The Gosselins have maintained a stance from the beginning of not responding to attacks. So far, it looks to be the corect strategy. Witness how foolish Julie ended up looking. If and when they speak I think it will be with a bigger publication than Philadelphia Magazine and with a more experienced and impartial writer than Jess.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, my defense of the Gosselins: they are human beings who are neither angels nor demons. They are not average in some ways (sextuplets, TV show), but perfectly average in others. What "defense" do you want me to give? That they sometimes make their kids do things they don't want to? That they don't always get along with their relatives? That they change as they grow older? How are they any different from anyone else in any of these respects?

  • alison

    I was wondering if it's even legal to cut and paste comments on a copyrighted website to here, or anywhere. I know you can post links, but the comments? Besides that, the author of these cut and paste quotes from GWoP is only inciting others to look at that site and learn more information about the Gosselins. It made me go look. And I checked out another site as well, Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity. What a bunch of hypocrites over there. While complaining about GWoP, one poster commented that Mady Gosselin is a handful and Hannah Gosselin is needy/clingy. So, they can discuss the Gosselin children's behavioral habits, but they condemn any other site for doing so? How do they justify that? I hope that poster "Guinevere" comes here and reads this. That woman can go on and on and on . . . . I could barely make it through her posts. LOL

  • Annabelle

    I am tired of being told that I don't understand lies or that "the truth" is too tough to hear. I get it! I have heard the claims, understand them, and believe about half. However, even if it ALL were true, I still don't care! The Gosselins have the right to live their lives and raise their children the way that they see fit. I'd like to see some of their harrassers open their homes up to scrutiny and see if they pass the public test of appropriate parenting. It isn't that I can't see your TRUTH or that I choose not to believe it. It is, in fact, none of my business. You may believe then that I don't care about children. Not true, but I don't think that it is anyone's business how children are raised when there is not a clear indication of actual abuse. I have tried to help children in far worse situations, only to be told that if they have food on the table, there is nothing that can be done. Raise your own kids and let the Gosselins raise theirs.

  • Anonymous

    quote: to take control of his home starting with his wife first [/endquote] This is really the issue with many of the GWOPPERS; Kate is not submissive to Jon. Their ideal woman is "nice", submissive and obedient to her husband. It's ironic, considering what harridans and ball-busters most of the GWOPPERs seem to be, but self-awareness is not their strong suit (UNDERSTANDMENT OF THE MILLENIUM!!!)

  • Anonymous

    The love between Jon and Kate is gone. These two are getting tired of each other. Jon is realizing what a witch of a woman that he married. I am sure that he has some "women friends" in Utah and that's why he goes there. I don't blame him. The way that Kate treats him is a sin.

  • Anonymous

    To clarify, I am the author of the "Best of GWoP." Two things – all quotes come from GWoP. They were posted there. Second, I am not a member of the Princess Boards. From what I understand, their registration process rejects most applicants so I haven't bothered. The ONLY reason some quotes are taken from their site is GWoP has a sneaky habit of erasing some of their more outrageous content after a few (saner) heads prevail. We have seen this time and time again. The Penn Mommy saga still being the topper.

  • Kaitlin

    There would be no magazines sold like People, OK, Star, etc., and there would be no shows like Inside Edition and Entertainment Tonight, etc. if everyone thought like you. Nothing about another's life is any of our business, except maybe politicians and only in respect to how their actions would affect our lives. But are you going to tell me that you never read articles about Hollywood stars? You never watch TV shows about them? You turn off the news when stories of their (or politicians) antics come on? You don't discuss Nadya Suleman's situation? Give me a break here with your preaching! Everyone gets into business that is none of their business at times. You just decided you didn't want to be in Jon & Kate's business while some people have chosen otherwise. You can get down off your high and mighty horse now, Your Highness.

  • Jen

    Instead of defending the Gosselins, there is a certain group of "fans" who have done nothing but post things against people with whom they disagree. The only reason that I can fathom why they do this is that the facts that have come out over the past year, some of which were clarified in this article are too tough to hear. Instead of attack, attack, attack against people you don't even know, why not defend the Gosselins if they are really so terribly misrepresented? Because from what I can see, there is such hatred on your part of people who dare reveal anything negative, yet you don't have any counter-argument or evidence to dispute the claims. It's so childish and I can't believe that the people who claim to defend the Gosselins believe that this type of behavior will get them anywhere. The more you attack, the more you try to twist what people say, the more people will seek out information from the very sites you claim to hate. It's like free advertising. Instead of hating people wh

  • Jen

    Instead of hating people with whom you disagree, why not say WHY you disagree and prove the statements wrong? This author met with people, went to two events Kate was at and tried to interview her, tried to interview TLC, Jon and Kate and etc.. At some point, the author had to write what she experienced which is Jon and Kate stonewalling and not wanting to be interviewed. If they are so misrepresented as some of you say, why wouldn't they take the opportunity to set the record straight? Moreover, they have their own website that they can use to clarify anything they like and they choose not to do that. The issue of the employer speaks volumes about their credibility yet they still lie about the circumstances. They have started this entire thing with that one lie. Blame the Gosselins, not those of us who dislike them.

  • Anonymous

    SmartyQ said…Sidebar: Having Hannah’s migraines diagnosed cost Kon only $3000?!? My neighbor’s granddaughter had terrible headaches when she was six, and it cost her parents $3500 to have the problem diagnosed. This was 15 years ago. I guess even Hannie gets the K-Mart doc, so the dogs will probably get a faith healer.

  • Anonymous

    Gregory House said…I have to honestly admit that I really don't care for Hannah. This episode really does a fine job of painting her as "The Golden Child".I see a sibling fueled beat down in her distant future…

  • alison

    Okay. We asked, you gave. However, do you condone the lies that Jon Gosselin gave the state of PA about his employer firing him? Because I don't believe for one minute that this magazine would publish anything that isn't verified. They are smart enough not to open themselves to a lawsuit over something as trivial as that. I mean, Jon Gosselin, in the grand scheme of things, is just another non-productive employee who lost not one, not two, but several jobs. Kate lost several jobs as well, before the sextuplets birth. She's not exactly a stellar employee, either. Yeah, they are not perfect. Neither am I. But I don't think I'm stupid – I think they are. That's the difference. I wouldn't go on record, several times, and publicly, at that, stating that "I need help! My mean ole' boss fired me 'cause my wife and I accidently had six babies at one time. It's not our fault! We took a risk and we lost! I didn't want them, but my wife did. I thought we were just fine as a family of

  • Anonymous

    What needs to be defended? That Jon says one thing about his firing and his boss says another? What makes one the truth and the other not? The rest is just allegations and insults from unnamed sources. The lack of reasoning ability in GWOPPERs is scary.

  • Anonymous

    Ms Peach said….The show is definitely running out of steam because those kids are not so cute anymore.

  • Anonymous

    The magazine didn't state that Jon was fired for the reasons the boss gave. The magazine stated the reasons the boss gave. There is a difference. Again, your reasoning ability is really lacking.

  • Anonymous

    Gregory House said..And my guess would be that Jon's "physical" affliction preventing impregnantion is that he can't get it up anymore. Kate makes his willy crawl up into his abdomin just with the sound of her voice.

  • Anonymous

    To Anon with "Is It Even Legal?" as a subject line, I have a question: why do GWOPPERs always pretend that they just stumbled on GWOP and GDNNOP? I see GWOPPERs do this all the time, and I don't understand why. No one with half a brain believes that you just fell off the turnip truck and found these sites today. Your lies are transparent. Why do GWOPPERs complain so much about the Gosselins "lies" when they lie so much themselves?

  • alison

    "I thought we were just fine as a family of four. The world is made for FOUR people! But then, I caught on. I learned all about *marketability* and found that I can sit on the internet all day and people will actually buy into our made up story of being financially destitute! Yes! They will send money to pay our bills, they will provide food, clothing, and housing for my family! And all I have to do is sit here (and later, sit in my closet/office) and continue my spiel and people are stupid enough to send us money! They even send us Christmas gifts! And my wife, what can I say . . . who is she to say no? When we receive complimentary gifts, she has no problem asking for more! I'm so lucky, er, I mean *blessed.* If I had never learned about marketing my situation to the public, I would have to keep finding employment". Yes, keep defending them. I think the show is going to be cancelled soon. TLC can't even defend them any longer. Instead they continue to show clips of very unfavora

  • alison

    Way to deflect my question. Is it legal? Do you even know? I didn't see any lies on GWoP during my visit. I saw speculation and snark, but I see snark on J&K+8 every Monday night. "He (dog breeder) blah blah blahed in my ear!" Grateful Kate, at it again. She is job security for her public relations firm, until they wise up and realize that they will be circling the drain with her pretty soon. So, care to answer the question about reprinting copyrighted material?

  • Kaitlin

    I've known about it for a long time. My friends and I do it with a lot of Reality TV shows! But my Mom just found out about it BY ACCIDENT a few weeks ago! So, YES, some people probably just discovered all this from reading the article. NOT EVERYONE LIVES ON THE COMPUTER!! You sure judge a lot and jump to conclusions for someone who preaches not to judge! Or I guess it's only okay to judge and make assumptions if it doesn't concern Jon & Kate Plus 8!

  • Anon

    "Instead of hating people with whom you disagree, why not say WHY you disagree and prove the statements wrong? This author met with people, went to two events Kate was at and tried to interview her, tried to interview TLC, Jon and Kate and etc.."I don't have an issue with those who feel, on principle, that the program is exploiting children. I am not a Gosselin "fan" per se. I have no interest in attending a speaking engagement, am uncomfortable with their fundamentalist Christianity, gender role differentiation, etc. I do, however take major exception to the wild accusations, histrionics, hyperbole and statements of "fact" that have never been proven that are a staple of GWOP. Any author who states that the arguments found on GWOP are well thought out and hard to refute has no credibility in my mind. If she were truly trying to portray a balanced picture, she would have said something along the lines of "There are some well thought-out arguments found amid the gossip and wil

  • alison

    The documents on record make it truth. Kate Gosselin is an idiot. She stated in a recent speaking engagement, that yes, PA can do that. (referencing that Jon's employer fired him because he didn't want to insure a family of ten). Did you even read the entire article? Do you even watch the show? Kate is a hateful wife and mother, a very ungracious person (making comments about the former owners of the home: "I can't believe people would live with such filth!") and Jon is just waiting until the terms of his contract ends with TLC so he can divorce Kate. Pictures of him with co-eds are available upon request. They're both idiots.

  • Lisa

    I have to admit, I was hoping that one of the Gosselin kids friends had parents who would speak on the Gosselin kids' behalf. I have to believe with twins in grade school and septuplets in nursery school, they have been witness to the kids' behavior as a result of the show, who picks them up and drops them off (never a parent, I bet), are the parents participating in school events or are they always absent due to "work"? That would have been a great angle for interviewing because it is doubtful that all the families of the community had to sign confidentiality agreements. But kudos for getting the dialogue started in a professional manner for all to see!

  • Linda

    I went to a fan site recently, and the "owner" of the site had made some plates w/each of the 8 kids names on them and displayed on site for all other fans to see. The plates were presented to K at a book signing, now, they're all waiting to "see" creepy is that?

  • Jen

    Somehow though, in some people's minds, Jon and Kate should be absolved from judgment? Why? They made the choice to put themselves on televsion. No one twisted their arm to do so.

  • Annabelle

    Thanks for the advice! Obviously I watch tv and read gossip or I wouldn't be here. What I don't do though is believe that I have a right to tell others how to parent their kids. Well, that and I don't drive by the Gosselin home, google their realtor or other connections, post photos of their home, write to their sponsors and churches where they speak or attempt to contact their relatives. But those things seem quite obviously over the top, I hope. What do I care if Jon or Kate hold a "regular" job? Or how many fridges they have? Or how they've chosen to divide their children's bedrooms?

  • Tall

    THE BEST OF GWOP #15 – MORE CHILD ADVOCACY!"Jon's "physical" affliction preventing impregnantion is that he can't get it up anymore. Kate makes his willy crawl up into his abdomin just with the sound of her voice. ***********************Imagining Kate leanin' over poor Jon & yellin' "HELLO" to his unresponsive peen *LOL*

  • Anon

    cont. and wild speculation." I have no issue with people who think, on principle, that the program exploits children. The author did not choose to focus on that, however, instead regurgitating gossip about "sweet" Aunt Jodi, Beth, etc. Who cares why they are no longer featured on the show? If you truly believe that the show exploits children, you should be appalled by Jodi and Beth being a party to that exploitation, not bemoaning their absence. It is not possible to disprove most of the wild accusations. How does one disprove that Kate had PCOS? How does one disprove that she raped Jon and blackmailed a doctor? It is not possible to disprove perception, but many (most) GWOP posters are unable to differentiate between their perception of events and the event itself. E.g. Event: Kate didn't let one of the boys have a "birthday" cupcake because he didn't finish his dinner. Perception: Kate is a horrible, mean mother who discriminates against boys and the child will

  • alison

    I watched the episode. None of the boys got their cupcakes. But Hannah? She was spoonfed by Kate and Mady and when they took her plate away, there was an awful lot of food on that plate. Kate said, "Well, she gave a good effort." I don't know what happened, obviously because I wasn't there, but was shown never indicated that the boys didn't eat as much or more than the beloved Hannah. I understand house rules. That's fine. But spoonfeeding Hannah and not the boys? Not even encouraging them. It was shown that the plates were snatched from unsuspecting 4 year old boys who were clearly surprised that they didn't get the eat the cupcakes they made, but were FORCED to watch their sisters enjoy theirs. It was sick. It was made even more sick that Jon and Kate seemed to derive some sick pleasure from depriving the boys. Kate was unpleasant during that episode. I think Jon and Kate each took out their frustrations by punishing the boys. Sick. Sick. Sick. If you don't believe me,

  • Anon

    It's not hyberbole. It's on film. The boys can watch this forever and ever. And so can the girls. *******************I can only hope you are not a parent. To defend them speaks volumes of your incapability of parenting.I know, I know . . . there is a multitude of mothers out there who take joy out of hurting their children. You are just another example." Again, proving my point. I did not defend anyone. I merely pointed out that many GWOP posters, as you have exemplified here perfectly, are unable to understand the difference between the facts of an event and their interpretation of those facts. Nowhere did I say whether I think Kate was right or wrong. And yet, you have concluded that I am a mother who takes joy in hurting my children. This, my friends, is why many people think those who post at GWOP are twisted jackasses.

  • alison

    If you don't believe me, watch the episode again.Kate was absolutely rude to the women at the bakery. She was an absolute spoiled brat. Just watch it, and then come back and defend her attitude. She told Jon, "You would have to change one hundred kids!" The kids had on customized aprons as soon as they stepped out of the van! Hannah is th favorite. It's so obvious! Watch the show! Which other child has been included in the couch interview segments? WATCH, PEOPLE!

  • Karen Thomas

    Your blurbs are a hoot! Don't stop! I really laughed when someone whined, "Is this legal?" Good grief! I guess they – GWOP – want to keep their horrible behavior in their controlled enviroment of their site. My favorite was the quote from the GWOP site where they admit personally knowing and living by the Gosselins. They accuse Jon and Kate of lies, What are they doing? Why not admit, loud and proud, that this whole thing – GWOP – is a personal vendetta? GWOP is soooo happy that they were mentioned in this article, it is all over their site. I think these neighbors (AKA GWOP) of Jon and Kate's really just want to attention their site brings them. The are like a flea on a dog, living off the host. BTW, if GWOP isn't interested in money, why worry about the copyright? Hmmm… Kudos to the Best Of Comments!!

  • Thomas

    I just read the story today and I'm proud that Jessica and Philadelphia Magazine not only exposed the true reality of this "reality show" but took the position that these children are being exploited by their parents (who are enjoying the ride to celeb status down a path sprinkled with freebees) and should be protected. It's a journalist's responsibility to uncover the real story and Jessica has successfully given us a dose of morality that Jon & Kate, the shows producers and supportive viewers should swallow. Thanks for speaking out about what's happening to these kids and raising the question of who's responsible. Jessica keep Philadelpha Magazine's moral gyroscope spinning in this direction.

  • Jen

    If you are not saying hateful and rude things to other posters with whom you disagree, than you are not even the type of person I was talking about. I'm talking about people who just attack people who dislike the Gosselins, while not saying anything about the issue or discussion at hand. That's the difference I'm trying to show. There are people who can talk about the show, the issues and there are people who just come out swinging, with name-calling and that type of behavior. I'm just trying to discern between people who can discuss and people who can attack.

  • Anon

    Birthday Cupcakes"…It was shown that the plates were snatched from unsuspecting 4 year old boys who were clearly surprised that they didn't get the eat the cupcakes they made, but were FORCED to watch their sisters enjoy theirs. It was sick. It was made even more sick that Jon and Kate seemed to derive some sick pleasure from depriving the boys."Thank you for proving my point yet again. I watched the episode and did not perceive events as you do. Your hyperbolic reaction is exactly what I'm talking about.

  • Jen

    For the parents out there. Are you saying you have never been in a restaurant or a store where there were parents and children and you never made a silent or spoken judgment about the child's behavior, the parent's discipline or anything? I think every parent here has seen something that a parent has done in public and thought, "What is she thinking?" or "I wouldn't have handled it that way". It's human nature to observe behavior and make judgments. Anyone who says they have never done that about someone is lying. Jon and Kate made the decision to put their parenting and all other decisions out there for people to see. If they didn't want people to make judgments and have opinions they would be best to turn off the cameras and live the private life that most people enjoy. I just find it a little silly when people say that we have no right to judge when people make judgements all the time about all kinds of people. Somehow though, in some people's minds, Jon and Kate should be absolved

  • Jen

    A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the cherry-picking of the more outlandish comments on GWOP and trying to characterize every person and every comment the same. It's really a poor argument. With 3 million hits or so, and hundreds of people visiting and commenting, you really can't paint all people and all comments with the same broad brush. It's a weak argument that I think most people who have visited that site can see right through. So there is snark there too. Who cares? Somehow Jon and Kate are above snark too? No one here has watched, "The Soup" which is 30 solid minutes of snark on all kinds of shows? Sanctimonious much?

  • Andrea

    The idiots at CPMC are so obsessed with bashing people who post at GWoP. So everything KON does is OK, but when criticized by GWoP, THEY are jealous losers with no life. How twisted is that? I laugh at their constant claims that it's only 5 or 10 people posting at GWoP. Yeah 5 or 10 people can generate 3 million hits on a blog. What a bunch of clueless idiots at CPMC, especially highon…yeah, you're high all right, and a few of her low life cohorts.

  • alison

    It's not hyberbole. It's on film. The boys can watch this forever and ever. And so can the girls. *******************I can only hope you are not a parent. To defend them speaks volumes of your incapability of parenting.I know, I know . . . there is a multitude of mothers out there who take joy out of hurting their children. You are just another example. Hey! Maybe this whole TLC experiment with Jon and Kate will open up the Pandora's Box of narcissistic parenting. That would be a good thing. Except it will be at the expense of the Gosselin children.I have to say though, you take the most intelligent posts and try to detract from them. That is J&K's PR at work. If you try to deflect from this post, I will be honored.

  • Jen

    If that's the type of person you are, then I guess there is nothing anyone could say differently. Wear that badge with pride if that's the way you feel. Your phrase, "delusional, psychotic stalker hyena" works both ways and is a PERFECT example of what I was talking about upthread. Well done on proving my point!

  • JJ

    Jen-Judgements? That's what you think GWOP is about? I recently read on there post after post attacking Jon and Kate's painter for using tape for his edges. STUPID! Here is a guy working hard to make a living and he is being made funof all over the net. What about his compnay, his customers? So many comments of GWOP have nothing to do with Jon and Kate's parenting. I hated cupcake gate and gum gate too, but GWOP has gotten so stupid and silly. There is no way GWOP is about helping the kids.

  • Anon

    "A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the cherry-picking of the more outlandish comments on GWOP and trying to characterize every person and every comment the same. It's really a poor argument. With 3 million hits or so, and hundreds of people visiting and commenting, you really can't paint all people and all comments with the same broad brush. It's a weak argument that I think most people who have visited that site can see right through."Outlandish is the norm at GWOP, not the exception. If you consider accusing Kate, in all seriousness, of blackmailing doctors (one of MANY, MANY examples of the insanity there) to The Soup, I don't know what to tell you. As for the sanctimonious comment, hello pot, meet kettle.What does 3 million hits have to do with anything? The posts are what they are regardless of whether 10 people or 10,000 read them. Personally, I'd presume that most people who read GWOP can see that the histrionics far outweigh the level-headed posts but th

  • H.P.

    It is comments like these (see below) that turn people off GWOP. Baseless, mean, and made up out of thin air…FROM THE FRONT PAGE OF GWOP TODAY:Anonymomma said… Does she hit them with wooden spoons? I have heard that's one of his pieces of advice starting with training them in the highchair..oh, and crying it out. Yuck.===================================OMGod. Seriously. I would dare the person peaching it to try and tell me to hit my kid, with anything. If she is into this guy and his psuedo parenting she is even more unstable than well, lol, it is Kate we're talking about.

  • Jen

    Ok, now I have to be worried about how a painter feels because someone said he should use tape? C'mon…this is getting ridiculous. Go to a forum on home improvement and people will likely have the same discussion. But because it's on Jon and Kate it's now a high-level, elevated discussion that needs to be handled with kid gloves? :) To reiterate, like this needs to be said again and again, people snark too on the site. No one hides that. No one it trying to trick anyone. Who cares? Is there an unwritten code of website discussion that means that one and only one topic can be discussed per site? Why does this even need to be clarified? Seriously?

  • Annabelle

    The cupcake hysteria posted here is exactly the kind of judgement I find appalling. Losing your mind over who had a cupcake when is truly unhinged. What is it that you want? It seems like you want Jon and Kate to lose their kids over this kind of difference of opinion in parenting. To me, it is not that the Gosselins are "absolved" of anything, it is that your outrage has no logical end except the removal of their children and that is what strikes me as so bizarre.

  • Jen

    I used the word absolved not in relation to the cupcake thing at all and have made not mention of that for the record. I don't think anyone is saying that they want Jon and Kate to "lose" their kids over a cupcake. Care to point out where someone suggested that CPS take the kids away over a cupcake? That sounds like an exaggeration of someone's concern that there is favoritism.

  • Nikki

    Seriously. I'm 25 years old, and I bet most of you are older than me, and you're acting like little immature children arguing. FYI, Jessica Remo was a writer for Villanova University's paper until 2006, when I assume she graduated, so that's why she hasn't been "out there" too long. Everyone has to start their careers somewhere. Now seriously, get away from your computer screens and start living your own lives, not fantasizing and obsessing over people you don't even know.

  • Annabelle

    "That sounds like an exaggeration of someone's concern that there is favoritism." OK- let's say there is favoritism. Now what? If it has been pointed out and discussed once or a thousand times, what is the natural outcome of such discussion? What do you expect to happen based on that discussion? The person referencing the cupcake thing above likened it to "mothers who want to hurt children." Huh?

  • Jay

    Just because a lot of posters are rude doesn't mean GWOP doesn't want legislation for children on Reality shows. Where is your proof that all posters and GWOP don't want that? What facts, other than some nutty posters, do you have to back up your statements?There are tons of sites about a lot of Reality shows and these fights go on all the time. Do you really think Jon & Kate Plus 8 is all that different? You haters and lovers are just one show this is done to. What's the uproar?Obviously some posters just like stirring the pot, you can see it here to by the attack on FX, that will happen everywhere. It does not give you the right to paint every poster at GWOP with the same brush. You take everything Jon & Kate say at their word despite their actions, so why are GWOP actions questioned? Why can't you just take their word that they are looking out for the kids interest? Why do you base you conclusions on their actions and not their word? Why do you people question Jessica

  • J.J.

    There have beem suggestions made to have the kids removed over less than what a cup cake issuse did, so please don't defend ppl who have suggested that, and yes there are people who would love to see the Gosselin family fall apart. # 2 hated woman to date is Kate Gosselin, and please don't confuse the hate with concern for the kids, Jessica, GWoP nor the majority of you who make nasty remarks about them care one iota about the kids, Just like Jodi, just different reasons, The interest is not concern for the children, It's called Hatered so keep all the lies and speculations going, makes you sleep better at night I'm sure

  • J.J.

    Way to go Karen Thomas, you tell em' girl, you are so right

  • Has A Heart

    Is everyone entitled to their opinion? Absolutely!!Does that mean that it needs to be expressed and shared? Absolutely Not!!There is NO such thing as a perfect parent nor a perfect child. No one would like to have their child critiqued by someone else – whether you have your child in the publice eye or not.Kindly refrain from ANY and ALL NEGATIVE comments about ANY Child. Thank you.

  • Jay

    Do you really think that lame plea is going to change the minds of any haters? Have you read the comments that have been posted here? Give me a break! You can't police everyone, you can't police their hate, and you can't police the way they express it. All we can do is resolve not to do it ourselves. And I agree with the poster who says a lot of the comments are said just to get a rise out of the fans, and the fans always, always take the bait as is evidenced here.

  • Jack

    Yes. Kate Gosselin asked one of her young daughters that question when she was sending the child to time-out. Also, you can watch older episodes of Kate wielding the cardboard paper towel holder over the little ones as leverage on a few episodes. Jon and Kate stated in older speaking engagements that they do *hit* the children, but TLC chooses not to air that particular form of parental control. As far as the cupcake episode, what do people not understand? They were absolutely hateful to their little boys while they coddled chunky Hannah. Yeah, I said it. She's chunky. They were all weighed at the doctor's office and Hannah outweighed them all. Kate was even surprised. She thought sure that Collin's head would outweigh Hannah! Yes. She said that. Watch the show. Hannah is the only girl tup who doesn't throw up under stress; she's the one who weighs the most; look at her! It's a wonder she can even walk with that booty on her! Look at the picture they display of her

  • Jen

    You can throw accusations at anyone you want for any reason, characterize EVERYONE at a website as being exactly the same, read minds and know what I (someone you've never really spoken to) want for the kids, and basically be hateful to anyone you want for whatever your deep seeded reasons are. Wow, what a great life you lead. When you are ready to share how you came upon these super powers, please let us know. If there are random people who make crazy suggestions like you imply, why not just ignore them and chalk them up to crazy people? I ignore that stuff and engage in discussions that are more productive and let the other wacko stuff fall to the side. Is there a reason you can't do the same? Why must you vilify every single person who disagrees with you as some wacko from GWOP. Do you mean there is no way that some of the people there are discussing things of substance? Have you read EVERY single entry? Because I drop in a bit each day and I won't even claim that.

  • Nikki

    Kate's pastor at her former church once said of the Gosselins "too many material goods can interfere with religious faith, but he doesn’t expect that to happen with the Gosselins."I don't hate Jon and Kate. I don't blame them for signing on to the show in the beginning, because I think they started out just wanting to provide for their kids. However, I do think it's just gotten out of control, grown bigger than they could ever have expected, and they've gotten sucked into the aura of fame and money, and are starting to forget what's important. Love, family, togetherness. That's what matters.That's what's still there when the money's all gone and no one remembers who you are. After Kate got home from her tummy tuck, she acted so happy to see her little babies. Now she seems to see them as a chore. I mean, when I heard her snap "You're not welcome" in the last episode, I gasped. I couldn't imagine a mother saying that to her children. My mother certainly never would have.

  • Proof

    GWOP – ENOUGH SAIDPosted by H.P. | Feb. 28, 2009 at 1:57 PMCOMMENT:It is comments like these (see below) that turn people off GWOP. Baseless, mean, and made up out of thin air…FROM THE FRONT PAGE OF GWOP TODAY:Anonymomma said… Does she hit them with wooden spoons? I have heard that's one of his pieces of advice starting with training them in the highchair..oh, and crying it out. Yuck.===================================OMGod. Seriously. I would dare the person peaching it to try and tell me to hit my kid, with anything. If she is into this guy and his psuedo parenting she is even more unstable than well, lol, it is Kate we're talking about.——–If you would have bothered to gone back to where this 'wooden spoon' comment you pilfered from GWOP came from, you would have found that this did not 'come out of thin air' by a crazy GWOPPER. This was in reference to Kate's disciplinary tactics used on her children & in reference to some Christian parenting philosphy by someb

  • Proof

    by somebody named 'Enzo' (think that was the name). This discussion emanated from the 'Meeting Jon & Kate' episode on TLC's website:http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/jon-and-kate-plus-8-meeting-jon-and-kate-full-episode.htmlAt the 19:00 minute mark, Kate is sending Hannah to timeout. As Hannah whines her way to the front door timeout area, Kate can be heard under the couch commentary 'DO I NEED TO GET THE RED SPOON?!?' That is the 'thin air' the 'wooden spoon' discussion came from. From Kate's disciplinary tactics.Need audio/video proof of anything else or are you good for now?

  • sara

    To get to the sixgosselins.com website go to the wayback archive and type in sixgosselins.com It's fun reading! Nadya Suleman should really refer to it to brush up on her Faith-based begging.

  • H.P.

    If the poster on GWOP has proof of this, then why do they ask, "Does she hit them with wooden spoons?" In the quote, the posters are guessing about abuse, which I find completely offensive. Once put out there on GWOP, it becomes gospel to the hungry masses. So, yes, I'll take the audio/video proof. The link posted isn't working. So many times, what people report on GWOP is far from what actually happened on the show, I don't believe it this time. I have never heard Kate say this. BUT, if they hit their children with spoons, I would be sickened by that. The problem is GWOP takes one thing and spins stories out of cloth from it. I recall many on GWOP reportedly hearing Jon hit one of the boys at the new house. I heard it too. IT WAS A DOOR SHUTTING! Certainly not a child being hit. Neighbors making a hate blog has turned into a witch hunt. That is crazy.

  • Jack

    Have you seen her in the picture where Hannah is posing for the camera, with her hand on her hip and her fat tummy sticking out? Yes, some kids are just going to be obese. I see that Hannah is set up for it. She's the *chosen* child. When Kate came home from her surgery to fix that horrible abdomen of her (no, I don't blame her for the surgery), she talked to all of the kids. Yes. But! Jon picked up Hannah out of her crib and coddled her. None of the other children were picked up and coddled! And we've seen it time after time. Hannah is shown constantly as the favorite kid. Heck, even in Kate's book that she *wrote* (sorry, Beth Carson), Kate admitted that she *bonded* with Hannah and it's therefore perceived that Hannah is the favorite child. And the episode where Jon and Kate did the couch session with Hannah was just sickening. They are doing good with Hannah. If anytone thinks that the other children don't notice it, then they are just kidding themselves. The other kids DO

  • Proof

    Go to TLC's website tlc.com Shows: 'Jon & Kate + 8', 'Full Episodes', 'Meeting Jon & Kate', 19:00 minute mark there you will find it-'Do I need to get the red spoon?'. Again you have to listen to the video carefully as Kate is narrating from the couch over the video. Go there, aside from the link working I've made it easy enough for you to get to. She says it. And if she asks if 'she needs to get the red spoon' one would have to assume that red spoon has been utilized in ways other than its intended use. Don't forget your barf bag. And oh yeah, you CAN BELIEVE IT, ok? Don't be afraid, it's there and I'll be damned some crazy GWOPPER DIDN'T make it up!!!

  • TruthTeller

    Thank you, thank you. You have just proven my point. When all other points fail, let's all gang up on Hannah. Classic GWoP strategy? Tell the truth, are you a mod there?

  • sara

    Check out the website Jon was so busy working on while he was supposed to be doing his actual job. You know, the job he was fired from for "stealing time." The one he tried to receive unemployment from and was denied. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://sixgosselins.comCheck out the 01/31/05 entry. Announcing that Dr. Gosselin died. They mention their "financial need" not once but twice. Gee, when someone I love dearly passes, the LAST THING I'm concerned about is my financials. But that's just me. Jon and Kate are all about money and were even back before the show existed.

  • alisnon

    Have any of you not seen this? Hannah is given preferential treatment all of the time. She has the best seat in the van – middle seat, front row. She has her own room now. She's the only girl who gets to keep her hair the long length that she wants, regardless of the headache complaints. She's the only child we've seen on Jon and Kate's lap during a couch interview session (when the others were sent to bed). She's the heaviest of the six (I be she gets a bagel when she wants one) and she's actually very snotty to the others. Jon and Kate seem proud of that fact. It's disgusting. One day, they're going to go on Dateline and try to explain why 7 children won't speak to them but Hannah, who weighs 700 pounds, is still living with them. Way to go, you dysfunctional pair of sorry-ass parents.

  • Andrea

    Get a life! Penn Mommy! Are you really still stuck on that? What does it have to do with this article?! Certainly nothing! Wow, you're a bunch of sick freaks! Especially you…HIGH as a kite (Cheesetastic! WTF?) and Margojata. Rip on GWoP, but everything KON does is okey dokey. What does that say about you? Single, cat loving losers! ROFLMAO!

  • Proof

    Forgot to add, prior to where you took the quote from there WAS a post that had the specifics as to where to find the 'wooden spoon' episode. If you want to spend the time looking for that specific post go for it. I've done enough research and fact supporting for you for one day. And the guy's name (Christian teaching dude) is 'Gary Ezzo'. Google him, I'm not providing his link.And as far as 'spinning stories out of cloth', more likely than not, there is audio/video proof to back comments up. A lot of us 'jealous haters' have the ability to see things as they really appear. Guess it's because we don't watch the trainwreck with our rose-colored glasses on.PS-You blow chunks yet, HP?

  • r

    As a training medical professional, I just want to point out that when we watch shows such as Supernanny and the like, all the children on the show exhibit classic behaviors of ODD (oppositional defiant disorder) the cause of which is inappropriate parenting and the solution is treating the parent. Its fair to say that Jon and Kate could certainly use a couple of "treatments". The children are sending smoke signals for help.

  • Anonymous

    "The children are sending smoke signals for help."——————–I can see the new GWoP rumor, the tups aren't even 5 and they are SMOKING because of all of the stress. LMAO.

  • Emmerz

    Are these recent few commenters examples of the crazy ones we are supposed to ignore?

  • teri

    I used to love this show.Little by little, I began to become disillusioned with J&k'S attitude towards people in their life. The first time I was really shocked at Kate's behavior was when she freaked out on Jodi for letting the children chew gum. Then after I watched the Hawaii episodes and saw how little they appreciated this wonderful trip, I began to look on the internet to see if others felt the same. I don't see myself as a "HATER", just concerned and amazed at their behavior. Great article!

  • Jen

    Emmerz wrote: Are these recent few commenters examples of the crazy ones we are supposed to ignore? Yep, those would be the ones! :)

  • Carol

    I have had it with this show — I don't watch it anymore. The kids have been exploited and Jon & Kate just keep earning more and more money, buying homes, etc. The trip to Hawaii was too much — how many of us, in this economy with job loss, etc. can afford such luxuries? Jon & Kate are no different than Octo-Mom — Kate's makeup, clothing and hair should be critized just as much as Octo-Mom is about her nails, etc. And, let me add, the Duggars with their brood of 18 is no better! They put so much burden on the older children to take care of the little ones.

  • Anonymous

    There is no need to cherry pick GWOP comments because offensive, insulting comments and lies about both the parents and the children are the norm at that site. They rarely even accept comments that don't overtly bash the Gosselins.

  • Anonymous

    Typical GWOP advocacy/reasoning skills: one week, it was announced that Alexis would have the solo bedroom because she wakes up early and wakes her sisters up. An outrage! An injustice! Poor Alexis (a happier child you've never seen, by the way) being marginalized again! The next episode, the Gosselins had changed their mind and decided to give Hannah the solo room, because she suffers from headaches and apparently is most in need of a quiet retreat. The reaction? What was once a punishment has now turned into an outrageous and undeserved reward! How dare fat spoiled little Hannah (a perfectly lovely child, who is FOUR, but the GWOPPERS despise her) get her own room. There is nothing that the GWOPPERs cannot twist into a negative when it comes to Jon and Kate. Nothing. These women are insane.

  • Beth

    The Strasburg episode? Where they go to see Thomas the Tank Engine? It's title is "All Aboard". Go watch it. When they get to the part where they are on the train and Mady tries to help Hannah with her hair because the ponytail holder was falling out, pay extra special attention…mmmk? Especially to the part where Jon raises his hand to point at Mady during a verbal reprimand for 'bothering' Hannah, and Mady nearly jumped the hell out of her skin. That child was EXPECTING physical retaliation. Go ahead, now. Go look it up and watch it. Then come back here and tell me I'm "a jelus K8 H8'r". For furture reference, I am not. I'm a an advocate at a PA county child protective services agency with 13 years experience under my belt. Now go watch your little video, and remember to come back here and misspell een more incoherent nonsense. But make sure next time, you actually have something substantial to say.

  • sara

    If Jon and Kate would have had their sextuplets and chose to be completely responsible for them (i.e working at actual jobs and being self-sufficient) GWOP would not exist. No one would care about J&K or even know who they are, there would be no issues. Are there any blogs or controversies about other families of high order multiples? No (besides octo-mom) Jon and Kate chose to sell their souls and broadcast their lives as well as their children's to avoid the hard work and financial struggle involved with the results of fertility treatments they elected to undergo despite having twins. They refused to reduce. An honorable decision. But again, they should have accepted complete responsibility for ALL of their decisions instead of becoming greedy beggars.

  • Sha

    If GWoP was truly concerned about child exploitation and advocacy, they would maintain a professional website. I could not imagine A Minor Consideration publishing the offensive, insulting, unrelated entries that make up 99.9% of Gwop articles. I could not imagine the UN endorsing any commentators of similar tone that tried to attach themselves to their cause. GWoP has absolutely no credibility, no professionalism, and no hope of being taken seriously. The only thing GWoP will succeed in doing is making those in charge consider removing the program due to the level of crazy frenzy of over-invested veiwers(GWoP) that is beginning to surround and threaten the family from. (I say it is GWoP, and not pro-fans, because GWoP is the most notorious. A claim they cannot dispute.)

  • Joanne

    And A Minor Consideration uses their real names, not hiding anything. GWOP's whole reason for being has nothing to do with child advocacy. They are slumming it with the crazies out there and cannot be taken seriously. They say on their site that some managers belong to CASA, which stunned me. I called the national CASA to complain. What TRUE child advocates would agree with GWOP's actions? It is unreal.

  • Julie Bower

    So, Hannah is the favorite but Kate hits her with a red spoon? Better get your stories straight before you start spinning stuff from cloth again – can't have it both ways. BTW, Hannah is an adorable child who is still growing. To call her fat is immature and mean of you. I always wondering what kind of children come from adults like you? Hmm… If you talk like this, how must your childern treat other kids at school who are bigger or slower or smarter than them? Not a very good example you set. Instead of worrying about Kate, maybe you should look inward.

  • Kat

    You all sure give them a lot of credibility! You go on and on about how they don't keep a professional website and yet you keep referring to them as if they were one! I don't get it? They are obviously NOT nothing. YOU have endorsed them BIG TIME. The more you talk about them and complain about them the more attention they will get. And those comments that you are posting from their site, they are only getting people more interested! Haters that didn't realize they existed now have found their paradise. This is un-frickin'-believable!

  • Anonymous

    Beth, in addition to being a jealous hater, you're a moron and a liar. It's Alexis' hair Mady tries to fix, not Hannah's. Jon asks Mady to stop because Alexis doesn't like having her hair touched (normal little-kid quirk), and she's whining and crying. Later Kate (aka Worst Mother in the World, according to GWOP) makes a point to tell Mady that she appreciates her trying to help Alexis, but that Alexis doesn't like having her hair touched. When the advocates at GWOP aren't accusing Jon of molesting his kids or cheating on Kate with other women, they accuse him of beating his kids. These women are horrible people.

  • sha

    How often, I wonder, does the Feed the Children organization publically print that it's a wonder that skinny, Ethopian child can walk with such a large, distended belly? Luckily, rice tastes the same even when provided by hypocrisy and mockery.

  • Kat

    What is wrong with you people?? YOU HAVE NOW OFFICIALLY PUT GWOP ON THE MAP!! Please, please, enough with GWOP! Just say 'the haters' say… whatever. Stop giving GWOP more advertising! You people are just as loonie if you don't stop!

  • Kat

    Kate praised Mady as a way of giving Jon a dig. And you call yourself her friend? I hardly watch the show and even I know that!

  • sha

    How does referring to a website give it credibilty? Especially when it's being accused of unprofessionalism? I suppose the outcry over Isiah Washington's homophobic remarks accelerated his career and earned him accolades with his peers? Or, for logic you'll understand, the outcry about child-explotation actually proves there is no exploitation?

  • Diana

    Are you the GWOP manager who also happens to be a CASA volunteer? I think you are a blight on the CASA program. If this is how you make your judgments about children's lives, then SHAME ON YOU!!! That GWOP site is full of horrible things about the Gosselin children and you should be ashamed to be associated with it. I'm truly sickened that someone working to help children would be sucked into such a unhealthy organization. Wrap yourself in pathetic lies all you want, but what you are doing is wrong, completely wrong. When I read on GWOP about a manager working for CASA, I was sickened. To try and mix what GWOP does with REAL child advocacy is the height of arrogance. HOW DARE YOU!!! I was an abused child and I have dedicated my life and a lot of my own money to helping kids. You are no child advocate, you don't even know the meaning of the word.

  • Anon

    What difference does it make if GWOP gets more "publicity?" I, for one, hope tons of people check them out and see the crazy for themselves. It sheds light on the reporter's positive assessment of GWOP, which in turn sheds light on the credibility of the article. I realize that GWOP moderators like to brag about the number of hits the site receives, but I fail to understand why that matters in the least. 75% of those hits might be from people who like to read the latest crazy conspiracy talk. A substantial number of hits does not equate to legitimacy.

  • Anonymous

    So you say you work for who? for 13 years, well honet I've been a white house aid longer than you been alive, Now if you believe that(people) you'll believe any thing, Sounds like Beth got her panties in a wad, Mady was not afraid that Jon was gonna hit her, crap those kids don't know what a good ass whoopin is, or they would surely act different, so pulllleeezzzeeee get off of the kids being scared, they are spoiled rotten and show no re-spect for adults, now theres some thing to blame on J&K. So beth maybe you better go back and watch a few more things and then come back and tell " US" how it really is.

  • MyMyMy

    Do I 'H8 K8'? No. I don't even know the woman. But do I buy what she's selling? No. Again, I don't even know the woman. And neither do any of you who defend her parenting skills or lackthereof, seemingly more so than your own. Honestly, can you not look in the mirror and find at least one quality about yourselves that you admire just as much, if not more, than the one's you see in a stranger on television? Are you that unsure and insecure about yourselves that you have to look to her for how to's, recipes, FAQ's, etc.? And if in your heart of hearts, you truly do not see anything wrong with what TLC airs every Monday night, why are you even here on this random and anonymous comment section of an article that questioned it's tactics and practices? If the Gosselins really are as wholesome and innocent as you say they are, then they don't need you to safeguard their reputations. And if you really, truly felt that they are as wholesome and innocent as they portray themselves to be, why wer

  • Anonymous

    Carol, lets just for the sake of some sanity not start on the Duddars, their kids are happy healthy kids who love and respect their elders, the older ones are not over worked in any fashion, and they are well taken care of.The Duggars had their home and their bank account long before TLC came along, And they don't act like the world owes them, they are not greedy and one damn thing for sure is there is plenty of love in their home, (so are you jealous of them to?) seeme like anyone that is a little better off than these bloggers are trash and you all want to talk trash on them, Well one thing is certain, Michell Duggar is far more of a mother/wife and a woman than you all are talking about her, She is too much a lady to talk the way you do, and has far more interesting things to do, Jealous much are you? Sure you are

  • sha

    Do I have to be a fan of terrorists to think that the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo was cruel and inhumane? Do I have to side with those soldiers who were no better, and no more respectful of human dignity, just because??? The attention that GWoP's coveted "national magazine" article brings will ultimately be their downfall. You can't censor opinions here, GWoP, with creative editing and deletion. You get what you ask for.

  • Anonymous

    And yes I do think highly of our military, they afterall are "THE VERY BEST" You must have lost your brain while seving, if you really did, it's questionable I'm sure

  • Lisa

    Shame on you, Philedelphia. I had hoped for reliable, intelligent material and was offered this. Anyone else?………………….I agree. Tabloid journalism at it's best or worst. Apparently, Miss Jessica sees this as her ticket to go write for Star Magazine or The Enquirer (which concidentally already covered this story). I think these days it is all about keeping your publication alive. Philly Magazine thinks this joke of a story will bring them readers. Not gonna happen.

  • Jodi

    OK- Let's say everything you said is true. Now what? What do you think should happen now?

  • Katie

    What is GWoP?

  • Beth

    *Sigh* Ok, one more time, for the cheap seats.1) I am not affiliated with GWOP, never claimed to be affiliated with GWOP, nor did I mention GWOP in any sentence I wrote.2) I have been and advocate of A child protective services agency right here in little ole central PA for thirteen years. Believe what you want to. I will go back to my job and you will go back to, well, I'm not really sure. 3)You're right. By mixing up the child's name on my part it must not exist.4) You gain no sympathy by claiming on an anonymous message board how you were abused as a child. 5) People who really were abused as children do 1 of 2 things, typically as adults. They either bend over backwards to help kids, or they repeat the same cycle of abuse that they endured. Seems to me you chose the ladder. 6) Stick and stones, and you know the rest. But hiding behind a computer screen while you call strangers names does not and will not stop an investigation or any future allegations. -Sincerely, PA

  • Anonymous

    same thing back to you, if they are as bad as you say why are you tuning in and raising the ratings? why are you so concerned with what Kate is doing? why do you care about her freebies? and don't use the child exploitation again, that is Big,Big B.S. as much as they are talked about, as much as Poopy Paul Petersen and GWoP and ppl like Luvs2sun and Beechlovin and moon has tried to shut them down, if they were as bad as you (only hope) why has not child services stepped in, Evidently the petition to cancel the show did not get very far, and I know that really pissed off some people, who ever is writing these companies and TLC, They think you all are idiots, thats what I heard they have come to the conclusion that you all need to grow up, and leave them alone. Sorry truth hurts.

  • Kat

    Either that, or they are fans lurking there to gain fodder for their own lame blogs.Rooting for the show to get shut down and in turn all the lame blogs get shut down!!Thank you Jessica!!

  • Anonymous

    Gosselins With out Pity, it's a site that tells you just how rotten J&K and their kids are, Oh wait a minute!!!! it's filled with lies and speculation also, but your lucky if you can get into it. In other words they are a bunch of women who have no life nor any one who wants to spend time with them and they are lonely and they can relate to each other, Google is your friend.

  • Anon

    Beth — Just a little friendly advice. Next time you choose to comment on the spelling of others, you might want to do a little proofreading yourself. While you're at it, you might want to learn the difference between "it's" and "its" as well as "ladder" vs. "latter." (Yes, I am being snotty but it's deserved.)

  • Katie

    Sorry but I have to ask this too, what does GDNNOP mean? And who is the Princess From Greece person? I'm just trying to fill in the blanks a little and keep up.

  • Anonymous

    iluveeyore said… Kate would despise Korea. It actually smells of human waste… as reported by people I know who have lived there.

  • Anonymous

    you mean you care how those killers at Gitmo were treated? well just too damn bad for you, b/c let me tell ya when our sons/husbands/daughters are being killed and tirtured you sure the hell didn't care, what the hell is happening to American people? You want our military to keep your fat ass safe and go thru hell for you, but what treat them killers like they are more than a piece of crap/ Wow!!! why don't you change your address and move to that country, remember you are American, and my son and father fought for your freedom to have that choice, now get the hell out of our country. One more thing this blog is not about politics.

  • Anonymous

    you are of course a very sick person, one thing I have never done is call any kid names, I guess you your self would know how to do that huh? And yes I do back our military, and if those people over there are killed, I'm sorry, but we ahve lost innocent people here, and hell yes My Country is more important to me, than any foreign country, Do you think our men and women have not been tortured? Do you think they would give us a break, Hell No. So yes let you and I stop here , I will not respond to any more comments about the military, I have many family members who are there and those countries are not worth"to me" the lives of my family, but they were not worth the lives of all that was lost on 9-11 either.

  • Jay

    Nice that you admit to being snotty, and nice of you to give her a little friendly advice along with a spelling lesson and a grammar lesson. Was that a run-on sentence?Now, let's get this fight out of the blogs and into the light!

  • Anonymous

    Serena said… QUESTION: I'm a little confused. There were some posts that Jodi was seen in North Carolina with the Gosselins. But from Julie's post, it looks like she only saw the children at her home before they went to NC and did not accompany them to NC.ANSWER: That was Jenny, the nanny, that was seen with the Gosselins. She accompanies them when they travel (you can see her briefly in the most recent All Aboard episode). She was originally blonde, when hired. Now she is darker, with a reddish tint. Did she change to look more like Jodi and be mistaken for her when spotted in public with the family, or when seen in the background on episodes? Did she change because Jon has professed an affinity toward blondes? There are some questions even we can't answer.

  • Anonymous

    Serena said… QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes.

  • Anonymous

    Katie Gosselins Do Not Need Our Pity, is another blog, but who favors the Gosselins, you can also google that and find their site, Another one that is well balanced is Evil Beet hers is really good, another one is Imperfect Parent, it at one time was well balanced but the haters are running a lot of people away. But those have been around a long time, and usually have some good topics going on, it's a much easier blog to work on also, it's faster most of the time. Good luck Katie, hope you find one you like.

  • sha

    I am deeply dissapointed that Philedelphia Magazine chose to publish this. Reading the article, the comments, and the blog in question has made me reconsider my readership of this publication. I cannot believe they allowed a reporter to cite a blog such as GWoP as a credible source of information. I am sure there are KKK sites that have high traffic, do we now take their word on matters of race? I'm sure others feel that same as I. Shame on you, Philedelphia. I had hoped for reliable, intelligent material and was offered this. Anyone else?

  • sha

    OMG! That is DEFINITELY child-exploitation! Take those children away ASAP!*rolls eyes*

  • Tweety

    Word around Wyomissing is that Jon's mom no longer has citizenship status and that's why she's never filmed or mentioned….

  • sha

    *I* served in the Army for *your* freedom. And I did it for higher ideals then those that were exhibited at Gitmo. If I were the men serving in your family, I would be ashamed that my wife/mother thought that anyone who had issue with that treatment could not be military. You must think very highly of our soldiers.

  • J.J.

    Diana, I vote for you, if this Beth works for a child service, lets do what GWoP does and notify the sevice of her involvement with GWoP, I know people in Pa. who could find info on her for us. After all if she is giving advice off of what she learns from GWoP heaven help the kids. I don't think ant reptubile organization would be very proud that one of their representives is getting her knowledge from a hate blog, or any blog, so I'm gonna see what info I can find out about her, So Miss Beth tell us some more about how great your knowledge is. very amuzing I'd say. I really feel sorry for any kids connected with you.

  • Anonymous

    FIONA said… WOW, just WOW!How can a journalist write something that is obviously not been researched at all?Aren't reporters obligated to research and report the facts?All she did was hurt the kids. You know the sheeple who read, will look at that article and say, "see, even the WP says the family is fine". That was destructive and inaccurate reporting.I let my feelings be know.Thank-you Serena, again, for getting this information to us.

  • Liz

    GWOP is full of "smart savy women"? I nearly fell of my chair on that one. Everyone over there thinks the Gosselins' new house, at 6200 sq. ft., is a mansion!! They say it on many of their posts. Ahh… Many people, with good jobs, live in homes that size. It is by no means a MANSION. Please. It is white trash city over there. Do you know why people think GWOP are nothing but jealous neighbors of the Gosselins? Because all they talk about is the free stuff and MANSION that Jon and Kate have. So what? Everyone with a successful TV show has the same thing. It is petty and stupid. And their new house is not a mansion, for the record.

  • Anonymous

    Oh my Lord you just said it all, that is exactly what Petersen was worried about, and he also made mention of Julies blog, that these ppl were more harmful than the ones they were accusing. I'm so glad you brought that up. In all fairness if GWoP would ever tell the truth about anything there wouldn't be as much trash going on, I mean who would go out and check the G"s residence? who would go to the kids school, I read where one woman made the drive to and from the school just b/c Jon said it was an hours drive, she did all that so she could see how long it actually took, now tell me that is not SICKO and SCARY? then they ask why they would have a body guard, Ummm against you sicko's @ GWoP

  • Susan

    Thank you! Thank you! When I read this on their site, I realized their scam. Who makes a site about their neighbors and people the personally know? GWOP that's who! Could you imagine what world we would live in if everyone made a hate blog about people they hated? No one would be safe. Keep up the good work Best of GWOP.. the sick truth of GWOP needs to come out!!

  • anonymous again

    I 100 % agree with you, this was an opinion article based on what information she got from other bloggers and hate sites at that, How these people can praise her and hand out cookies for her "well thought out, well researched " article is beyond imaginable, She went around begging for info and came up with the same B.S. that we ahve been reading over and over, so what was interesting in her 6 pages of NOTHING? I certainly hope she was not paid for this,

  • Lisa

    If anyone wants to know what the average GWoP blogger is about you only need to look at the number of comments on any given post. Comments on Miss Jessica's Q&A = 32. Comments on the Puppy Episode = 490! That's not including additional comments posted on the recap of the puppy episode (you hate a show and you do a recap of it? That has never made sense). GWoP exists mainly for snark and the kids are frequently the target. "Serena" may have higher aspirations, but she is clearly outnumbered….

  • sha

    Actually, some people HAVE lost their limbs, their faculties, and their very lives while serving. What a tacky thing to say. Should we continue arguing who espouses the true meaning of patriotism, or does the fact that everything you say demean and offend those you claim to respect, put this to an end?You must be the same poster who calls Hannah fat on a public message board while claiming to cherish and respect her need for privacy.

  • Linda

    Gosselins are the model that Octomom followed when she had her litter. Stop this madness. E-mail TLC and tell them to take the program off the air as it encourages other greedy, unbalanced women to have dangerous litters that they cannot support w/o a tv show.

  • sara

    If this GWOP is so horrible why do you people care about it? It's just an insignificant blog that only… what do you claim….. 15-20 people post on? If it is that derogatory and full of false, threating and vile info I'm sure it will be shut down by TLCs legal department. I wonder why it already hasn't? I'm serious, you have all done a great job of telling us about the very worst blog on the WWW. How it's full of tales of child molesting and similar filth. Details so salacious you cause someone who never heard of the site to check it out. Much to their disapointment, there's no filth or devil worship. Just smart, savvy women conversing about a topic that is important to them. Keep up the great work of spreading the word! And BTW, have you all started making your Christmas '09 ornaments for the G kids?! Christmas is only 9 1/2 months away! Just don't make any with dustlies on them or Kate will put them in the garbage!

  • Diana

    My favorite part of Beth's response was her subtle threat of an investigation of the Gosselins. As if she can investigate them. Oh, please. I'm sure she is GWOP. I truly think that whole group doesn't understand why Jon and Kate haven't had their children taken away. They are delusional. Real child advocacy, true abuse… GWOP has no idea. GWOP are jealous, silly people using the Gosselin children as pawns. Some people working in CASA can do more harm than good. The managers at GWOP are people who cloak themselves in false "good intentions" and do not care who they step on, malign, etc. in their naive and fake attempts at "child advocacy". By the way, Beth, your cold heart was revealed when you commented that I get no sympathy on this board for being a survivor of child abuse. At the age of 35, I'm not looking for sympathy. BUT, I will stand up for those walking the same path I walked years ago. I will also stand against people like you trying to use childern for your own twisted purpo

  • Anonymous

    QUESTION: This is more a question geared towards one of the posters. In one of the posts a while back someone eluded to halloween night at the Gosselin's house. There were a few people in that post that was interested but no one ever clarified what happened. I don't know why that particular factoid interests me so much, it just does.ANSWER: We have asked Julie about the Halloween incident. She was planning to ask Jodi. We have yet to receive a response.

  • Anonymous

    Speaking of that fender bender hit-and-run, what is going on with that? Is leaving the scene of an accident – hit-and-run some level crime in PA? At least a ticket or do you have to go to court? In any case, Kate will maintain her usual attitude – not her problem. No personal accountability for anything.

  • Theresa

    Kate's cookbook hasn't been released yet….

  • sha

    Paul Peterson, of A Minor Consideration, did not decide to become familiar with J&K+8 until after all the crazy emails sent by Gwoppers. It was their lunacy and mob-like rage that he felt the children needed to be protected from….Lunacy such as Gwoppers driving past their property, posting aerial footage of their property, releasing school addresses on public boards, etc. Once he saw the level of over-investment and fanaticismof the Gwoppers, he decided it wouldbe best to remove the children from the air to protect them against THIS group.This is the group that Philadelphia allowed to be mentioned in their magazine.

  • JJ

    here is a prime example of how GWoP get stories/lies started, no Jenny did not dye her hair to look like Jodi, how could anyone not notice Jodi with that squeeky clean voice of hers, talk about nerve jerking,And no she did not change b/c of Jon, she did it b/c she damn well wanted to. but no matter what the Gosselins do or don't do the GWoPPPers will twist it and turn it different than it is, just like they do their minute little brain, I swear if they had any morals they would just shut down and save face. they are stalkers and liars and any one who associates with them is just as bad, don't believe me just read this article again and it proves it.

  • Tammy

    I post on GWOP regularly & this article states she read alot of blogs about the Gosselins. IMO, GWOP has 1 purpose-to stop the exploitation of the Gosselin children. The bottom line is the welfare of the kids & how Kate (and every1 backing her-Kmart, Vtech, Microsoft, Juicy Juice etc) has exploited her own kids for self gain and benefit (Jon included)-the exploitation even started before the kids were born! This is not about GWOP or other blogs, its a journalists opinion on the information she has found out through alot of research! Yeah, I don't like the way Kate and Jon act and what they do but this is about exploitation of 8 innocent kids & the lies their parents tell in order to get what they want. Do your research PEOPLE, if your that concerned, and you will find out the truth like some of us have. They are alienated from their families because of money and everyone not bowing down to Queen Kate, the only family these kids know are the camera crew..TLC and Figure 8 are making a ki

  • Iris

    Please don't assume that all GWOP people "despise" Hannah or all of the other things being generalized. There are many different people who post on GWOP. Some are not even in this country! We don't ALL think alike and we don't all post trash. This is like all anti-gwop people stalk Kate and want to be her BFF. No, not ALL, but some, therefore I don't say ALL!

  • Katie

    That site is pretty cool, I'm scrolling it now. There's a little bit of everything it seems. Yes, Marie Chantal, that's what I was meaning, the person who calls herself the Crown Princess of Greece? I think? What's that?

  • Best of GWoP Reporter

    I knoW #17 is a hoot and what's funny is they mentioned their little theory again recently (this quote was taken from last year). Let's recap: Jenny is 15 years younger and a good 15-20 pounds heavier than Jodi. Both are attrative women, but hair color is not going to convince anyone they are even related.

  • Sarah

    Peterson, of a Minor Consideration, doesn't like GWOP? Do tell…. I have not heard this. What happen?

  • Tammy

    TLC and Figure 8 are making a killing off of these kids and FYI, they have been in contact with the woman who had octuplets. They don't care, and apparently neither do Kate and Jon, about the kids..all that matters to them is the money. You can have all the money in the world and still be miserable..look at Kate and Jon, they never seem to be happy. The first 1 hour special showed 2 humble people who were struggling raising twins and sextuplets but now they have changed to money hungry people who don't care about how their kids feel. Those kids don't even know what normal is. I hope how soon, the show is off the air and these kids get a chance for some privacy.

  • Anonymous

    I too really think maybe Kate suffers from Munchow’s disorder too. One does not have to poison or hurt their offspring with this disorder, it is a need by the parent for extreme attention !

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, that would be "my" not "me".

  • Another Normal Person

    It restores my faith to know there are others who see it as I do. It's not about idolizing Kate as some do Oprah (another obession I think is weird). Kate has her quirks. Things she can work on. Same for Jon. Same for many others. The OVER-THE-HATE must come from somewhere? My degree is in another field so I don't feel competent to weigh in, but it's weird. I do think jealousy (for many) is a factor.

  • Your Dear Readers

    You are so funny!!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you. I wish others would contribute. Don't worry about the numbering. At least we aren't erasing things like GwOP. I did take 3/4 from Marie Chantal. I don't post there, but it's easier to pull things that might have been deleted by GWoP 'after the fact.' It's funny the things GWoP does leave, behind. I am enjoying this and want others to contribute….

  • sha

    "Ive never posted here before, but I read this blog all the time. I just felt inspired to say this. My sweet brother gave me their book as a Christmas gift. He has no idea the controversy surrounding this family, otherwise I know he would not have spent his money on it. I read it with a neutral point of view, and it turned me 100% against Jon and Kate Gosselin. I burned the book shortly after. Yes, burned it. I didn't want it to taint anyone else's mind. I threw it in the fireplace and turned the gas up a little. Then I sat back and enjoyed the warmth. At least it was good for something"Oh,that's not Kathy Bates in Misery level of crazy at ALL! She actually threw the book in the fireplace and watched it burn! Lol. Evil cookbooks…(How do cookbooks exploit children, anyway?)

  • Susan

    I will add some in the morning! I never understood why more people didn't talk about GWOP living by and knowing the Gosselins. To me, it was like a stalker. What kind of people do a hate site about people they actually know? What's next "I Hate My Mother-In-Law" sites? Also, I have no idea what Marie Chantal is…

  • KarenWalker

    I think I love you.

  • Anonymous

    Give it a break girl, looks like you are tired. now is the complete 8 college funds paid in full? or did the state just start one for them? a big difference, maybe want to check that out before we call another story 'FACT"

  • Anonymous

    most of the posters on GWoP are devine "Haters" of the Gosselins, you can not deny that, just a quick read of a couple comments will prove that, mat=ybe 1 out of every 100 is in defence of the Gosselins, those people will not just let any one post on their blog, They tell you up front what they do, just like they say no talking about the kids, yeah right, they have said the worst things about those kids, one of them made the statement that she wanted Aaden we he turned five, now can you deny that? It's there just read it. If you are not like them why would you go there? what can you get from them except a sick feeling? but to each his own.I"m not sure about this Princess girl, but Katie if you google it you will find it. I have never been there.

  • Hannh

    These kids have been exploited before birth. Kate and Jon are riding the coattails of their children and they don't care what it's doing to them or their lives. Go click on some of the links on the GWOP site, it will show you what Kate is about. THey have lied to get what they wanted without any consideration of their kids personal lives. THey don't even know what normal is. Kate has lied all along…if you all watched the show "All you wanted to know", she stated that when they were done with the show then the kids would have enough for college…FYI, THE GOV OF PA GAVE ALL 8 KIDS COLLEGE TRUST FUNDS THAT WOULD GET INTEREST UNTIL THE KIDS NEEDED TO USE THEM!, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER LIE KATE TRIED TO FORCE FEED THE PUBLIC. Kate is all about Kate and doesn't care about anything else but how to get more money!

  • Pam

    Has J&K's PR hired one of those companies that pays people to post on forum and blogs? Are mommy and daddy not supervising what the 12 and 13 year olds are doing on the computer? Please, all you fan(atics) go back and read your posts out loud. Do you really think you sound rational? Your adoration of this family and hatred for this GWOP site really sounds like it is consuming your lives. I don't watch this Gosselin show but I do read the Philadelphia Magazine. After reading this article and seeing the type of people the show attracts, I wouldn't waste my time on it. Stop living your lives through a television show. When this show at some point goes off air like most shows do, you're going to look back at the time you invested in this nonsense and say,"What was I thinking?" Ladies,you're far too invested in a television show. Life is short, don't waste precious time on this nonsense. You are nothing more to anyone on a television show but money in their pockets.After reading thr

  • J.J.

    Tammy, Tammmy, Tammy, child, where do you get your info, that J&K started exploited the babes even before they were born? please do tell me, just how do you and GWoP know this as fact? you ppl are really crazy aren't you? what are you gonna come up with next, And as far as this article (opinion) having been thourgly researched, you are nuts, all you have to do is read the blogs and you have every thing she said, it has been said over many times, so Jessica didn't give us hoot. Where did she get her info about Jons boss? was ot from him personally? No, so how do you know this stuff is true? you do not and most of it is not. Don't you get tired of hating some one just b/c some one else does? geez I'd think it would wear you out.

  • KarenWalker

    —Where did she get her info about Jons boss? was ot from him personally? No,—Yes. She talked to him personally. Did you read the article?

  • Elle

    I know Julie stated on her blog that Jodie wanted to move on and didn't want her to post anymore. But, what made them stop? Why did Julie and Jodie stop talking? Is she more deeply involved with GWOP than merely an informed poster? Did she help start it or after it was started, help manage it? Obviously, the founder/managers of GWOP were close to the Gosselins somehow, i.e., friends and/or neighbors… That is so sick and twisted. It is like a cheap, trashy movie of the week.

  • soooo smart

    here dumb a$$, i'll give you this clue free – just because the state set up a trust fund doesn't mean it was funded (MEANING NO MONEY WAS PROBABLY EVER PUT IN IT!!!) people can have accounts, but that doesn't mean any donations/deposits were ever made into it – there goes your "FACT"

  • Sick and Tired

    This poorly written article does nothing but give a biased opinion of something that the majority of us know NOTHING about – raising 8 kids. Not one of you can sit there in your smug judgement and say what you would or would not do for your children. Have you ever thought that they are doing this for the children's future? The way our economy is going, they sure won't have one on their own. Jealousy and hate are a bad thing my friends and I would not be surprised if some of the "haters" are that way because they could not get a piece of the fame pie themselves.

  • Pam

    After reading these comments it's heartbreaking how much hatred is spewing between people who don't even know each other. It's sad, very,very sad.

  • Pam

    After reading these comments it's heartbreaking how much hatred is spewing between people who don't even know each other. It's sad, very,very sad.

  • Roni

    Its too bad that the author even suggested she got info from GWOP and just wrote about the facts of the family in question.. as I've never seen the GWOP site before I read the article an yes the people over there IMO are as fanatical as the fan's who give support of the Gosselin's. Whats sad is both sides of the debate are showing their true colors and look like a bunch of 7 year old screaming at each other in which by doing so makes them less credible to listen too.Now.. what I do want to see changed is U.S. Laws on the books that protects the CHILDREN whose family's have them in reality shows as there are NONE to speak of.

  • Ann

    I speak here for many who feel the show should be cancelled – I am completely opposed to any and ALL negative comments about the kids. This is where you separate the intelligent commentary from the riff raff. The real GWOPers do not in any way subscribe to this, and focus their arguments on TLC and the parents. Good article Jessica.

  • Krystal

    Let me see if I have this straight. Jon and Kate fans will only be happy if everyone who has issue with the show or the parents or dares discuss them or speculate or makes fun of them simply falls of the face of the earth right? Because it appears that unless you worship at the Temple of Gosselin the earth has no use for you. Grow up people. So there is a site where people talk about them and maybe make a little fun. WHO CARES? You people who are going crazy about this site sound certifiably insane. Do you read what you've written?

  • Krystal

    Then why do you care? I didn't know that site existed until this week because everyone was so insane about it. Some of what I read was about stupid like things about sunglasses and clothes, but some of the comments were well written and talked about things that this article discussed. The part about Jon's job is a pretty big deal if you ask me. Whatever. The people making a big deal out of that site sound crazier than the people who make fun of the show. If that's the impression you want out there you are doing a good job. If I were you I would just let them talk and not give them more visitors. But some of what is there makes sense and brings up some good points.

  • Proof

    What?Posted by Theresa | Feb. 28, 2009 at 10:49 PMCOMMENT:Kate's cookbook hasn't been released yet….—————–Isn't it wierd that Kate would 'write' a cookbook? Although this upcoming book, 'Love Is In The Mix'(gag me with a red spoon)was probably penned by their organic chef/craft services people, but you know Kate's taking all the credit AGAIN-because according to the Kate, "I'm not a recipe follower. If you have to follow a recipe you're not a true cook!" Season 4, Episode 4 'Korean Dinner' which can be found on YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myGH2NeGe34'Korean Dinner' Part 1 7:09 minute mark.More video/audio proof for you.You're welcome.

  • Heather Marie

    When something is a non-issue you let it go. I know many people who view this show as just that, a Reality TV show like the many others that are on TV now, and they love them and hate them and discuss all the characters. Big deal. I think there are a lot of people that do care about the kids rights and I for one wish that was the focus on all the forums about Jon & Kate Plus 8, but this is a free country and if people want to laugh at zebra striped hair, and ski trips, and kids acting like brats, (all things I've read on that particular site and other sites that critique the show) that is their right. You don't have to agree with it. But to let it drive you to point of near insanity makes people outside of this debate lose any sense of credibility they had in your argument. And really that goes for both sides, if the issue is protecting children and you go off on nonsense you lose credibility. If the issue is protecting the family from mean spirited people attacking them and the

  • GWOP-please don't stalk m

    Here is the original entry before GWOP "clarified" (read: damage control or lied) their original answer after getting so much backlash. Who makes a hate blog about their friends/neighbors? I guess GWOP does…creepy…..———-FROM THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS SECTION OF GWoP:Serena said… QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes.8/06/2008 8:50 PM

  • keep the funny comments coming

    I find it laughable that all you GWOPers think that everyone pointing out your site's flaws should shut-up and stop wasting their time. Your site calls BOTH Jon and Kate abusers, makes fun of their looks, says they don't love each other, says they don't love their children, calls adorable Hannah fat, etc., etc… Now tell me again, who is living through a TV show? Hmmm? And now someone is pointing it out and you think they should stuff it? Of course you do!

  • Child Advocate

    Corinne said… I went to the grocery store and priced all of the P&G products I have used, and figured out how many a year I would use. (ex., 6 bottles of shampoo a year.) Then I cut out all of the logos of the products from the P&G Brandsaver ad I got in the newspaper, and pasted them next to the prices I found. Then I calculated how much they're losing from me a year. I haven't quite finished it, but just by eyeballing it I can see it'll be easily over $1,000. When I'm finished, I'll send it over to GWOP – thanks so much for doing this!

  • Katrina

    Unless your neighbors are celebrities like Jon & Kate Gosselin no one will be interested in your lame blog. People only hit sites millions of times for celebrities.

  • Anon

    You've given us yet another fine example of anti-Gosselin melodramatic rhetoric. Well done! Sorry, but the certifiably insane label goes to the fine people who choose to analyze a television show frame by frame, psychoanalyze every word spoken, brag about seeing Jon & Kate DVDs at stores and moving all of them to the lowest shelf and turning them backwards, burning their books, attempting to access Kate's medical records, etc., and of course all of the wacked-out conspiracy theories. Oh, and then there's the harassment of people who have been on the show or dare to book the Gosselins to speak. And the stalking behavior…posting and analyzing aerial shots of the house, driving by the property and reporting what is seen, etc. Nope, nothing crazy about GWOP at all…

  • Katrina

    Maybe on 8/06/2008 @ 8:50 PM there actually were staff contributors that personally knew and lived near the Gosselin family. Maybe that no longer is the case. Is your point that they lied about being neighbors? Or is your point that they are still neighbors and lying by taking that quote down? The Gosselin family has moved so maybe they are no longer neighbors that stalk, maybe now they just are TV stalkers like all the viewers.

  • Proof

    Tammy @ 10:52Posted by J.J. | Mar. 1, 2009 at 12:38 AMCOMMENT:Tammy, Tammmy, Tammy, child, where do you get your info, that J&K started exploited the babes even before they were born? please do tell me, just how do you and GWoP know this as fact?——————–J.J. Out of the horse's mouth, of course:http://www.kutv.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=77940@kutv.dayport.com&navCatId=62Jon's interview for kutv.com Jon Gosselin Full Interview Part 2 1:10 minute mark."You learn about marketability, all that stuff…"Do yourselves a favor and watch all 3 parts."I wouldn't lie to people normally, or at all…" Jon Gosselin kutv.com Full Interview, Pt 3 9:42 minute mark.Anything else you need, J.J.?

  • Anon

    Obviously you've taken the time to read these comments and visit GWOP, so why do YOU care? And why do care what I care about it? See, it works both ways…

  • please don't stalk me GWO

    Quote from the GWOP web site, Questions and Answers section:8/26/2008 3:04 PM Sharla said… QUESTION: Do any of the staff contributors for GWoP personally know the Gosselins or live nearby?ANSWER: Yes. Clarification: One of our moderators lives not too far away.

  • Krystal

    Thanks for making my point clear. Some of you sound like little kids. What's next? 'I know you are but what am I?'

  • Heather Marie

    If your main issue is protecting the family from mean-spirited people attacking them and you go off on a tangent and resort to name-calling, you lose all credibility. This is a nonsense war. I hope this subject gets more coverage in major magazines, newspapers, and mainstream TV because it is an important issue, and it will bring to light the legislation that needs to be enacted to protect all children on Reality TV shows, and this nonsense that thrives in the blogs will be obliberated.

  • Child Avocate

    samcarter said… This morning on my Yahoo home page there was a headline: "Puppy on the mend after being thrown out of moving car." I swear my first thought was, "Holy crap, Kate snapped and threw one of the puppies out on the highway." It's not that far of a leap, is it?

  • Child Advocate

    ThreeFarmers said… Kate Gosselin: Brighter than the light of a thousand Oompa Loompas.

  • Kat

    How does anybody not see the humor in that?

  • Child Advocate

    4girlsoneboy said… I hope this has been forwarded to all the TV shows and every magazine that has featured the Kon artists. Someone has got to wake up and realize that Kate Gosselin is just as guilty in her devious little mind as Octomama. We aren't asking for a mansion, free clothes for our family nor two sets of washers and dryers. Just please let all of us mothers struggling out here live to see her get her comeuppance

  • Crazy Stalking Neighbor (I LUV

    I need some advice from GWOP. See, my neighbors are driving me nuts. Their dog poops in my yard all the time, their kids are so loud, and I think the husband is sleeping with the babysitter (you know, like Jon Gosselin). But, the worst is his wife. AHH!! That women! So, I was thinking, I want to start a blog about them. Can you help me with this? Any ideas on how I could pull this off? Nothing crazy – I just want to accuse them of beating their kids, making their favorite child fat, hating their boys, etc… Also, the mom has medical issues, but I'm sure she is lying. Can anyone access her medical records for me? That would really help. Your site – GWOP – is my inspiration!! Sincerely, Crazy Stalking Neighbor

  • Child Advocate

    ThreeFarmers said… Where is the list of Jon and Kate sponsors? I like a lot of their stuff and a detailed list would be handy for shopping. This statement is the perfect example why so many J&K fans are referred to as sheeple. Blindly going along (in this case, purchasing) with what J&K want you to buy for no better reason than you like J&K. You are a marketer's dream in that you're making the decision on where your money is spent, not on the quality of the item or company, but buy the popularity of their hired lackey. The quoted phrase above could be used as copy on a billboard for stupidity.

  • Katie

    Is that wrong?

  • Eileen

    They are 'playing', doing something they call a 'gang bang', where they all post nonsense comments, and copy comments from other sites and re-post them. I hope you realize that this nonsense goes on in all sites. Not every comment is a 'real' person with a real point of view! It's just a ridiculous game to some people, kids and grown-ups alike. I am putting a stop to it in this house for now!

  • Child Advocate

    Katie O said… The only reason I will be watching the show tonight is to see when they finally show the outside of the house. They can't claim that they won't show it because of "privacy" reasons, just a quick search will show you pictures of the inside, outside, upside, downside, and ADDRESS of the house, not to mention we now know every child's bedroom!

  • Child Advocate

    Amy… said… SouthernMama said… This is clearly unethical. What doctor will give a healthy woman fertility drugs? Kate says she had polycystic ovarian syndrome. No way!! POS suffers are overweight, bad skin, even excess hair. This was clearly not Kate as you can see in her early photos! I hope you didn't mean it like it sounded, but you totally made it sound like PCOS suffers (I happen to be one) are ugly, old hags who should just give it up already. But I agree, NO WAY did Kate EVER suffer from PCOS. I mean, there's probably a 0.01% chance that she did, but if I had a Magic 8 ball, "all signs point to no".

  • E.K.

    Those GWOPers are insane! What will they do with their free time when the show is over? And stalking your neighbors – that was the final straw for me – SICK! SICK! SICK! It is not well known that GWOP managers actually know and live/lived near the Gosselins. And, yeah, 3Farmers is over the top. I bet 1,000,000 of GWOP's hits are from her visiting the site and commenting over and over!

  • Annabelle

    Once again, what would Kate's "comeuppance" look like to you?

  • Jane Sommers

    You have a problem with the funny comments posted here about GWOP, but you think the utter garbage posted on GWOP is OK? Because many don't agree with GWOP and are expressing themselves with a lot of humor at the expense of GWOP, you don't believe the comments are true? How full of yourself can you be? There are tons of people who laugh at the utter dumbness of GWOP, that's the truth. I know you can't wrap your mind around it, but it is true. Tell me are you as outraged when a GWOP follower calls Hannah, an adorable 5 year old, fat? Does that hurt your sensibilites gentle reader?

  • overwithKON

    For all of you who like this article and actually understand GWOP(like myself), and really want this KON game to end, then link this article to your facebook/myspace(etc) page, send the link to all the major magazines(People, Time, GoodHousekeeping,etc.), all the major and minor talk shows(the view, Oprah, Dr. Phil, Ellen, etc.), someone will pick it up. This is a huge step, made in a small way to getting this to end.

  • Child Advocate

    meredith said…Who else wanted to hurl when Kate said that her precious Hannie was getting her own room because of previously undisclosed "headaches" that she suffered?

  • hyjfu

    Post more from Three Farmers. That woman is a complete pill. She even attacked a fellow GWOPer who kindly suggested that in this economy boycotting companies like Whirlpool could hurt innocent workers. Well, Three Farmers called her pathetic, etc., etc… one or two posters even came after Three Farmers – it was quite the GWOP throwdown. I guess Gosselin mania is more important to 3T than real jobs and regular, working families' lives. I guess "Kate Hate" trumps the innocent. P.S. GWOPers even call Kate "Hate" as a nickname. How immature and silly is that? Grown women, for pete's sake…

  • Carol

    Someone posted a comment to an earlier entry that I made, asking me and others if we were jealous of Jon & Kate, and to me especially about the Duggars. Each one of these reality shows participants have made money due to the fact of their extemely large families. Do you think the Duggars would have a house the size that they do, or the book sales and profits, had they not gone on TV. The evangelism that is offered by the Duggars should be on another station and not the LC. The Duggars may have made some good investments, but w/o the LC, they would never have made the funds they do now. And the older kids do help out a tremendous amount. If you watched a recent episode where the parents went to California for an anniversary/guest speaker trip, although a grandmother was the adult in the house, the older kids did all of the tending to the siblings. And, if you watched the older kids reaction when the announcement was made to them about expecting yet another sibling, there were "c

  • Child Advocate

    alana said… I won't be watching the show again tonight… I really HATED the all over sick and 'dirty' feeling I was getting every time I watched their LIE of a show. The best thing I ever did for my MENTAL HEALTH was refusing to watch ANY of it, especially the new episodes on Monday night. By the time my DS would come home at midnight, I was talking about Yawn and Take and acting like a CRAZY person because of THEIR insanity! So I quit watching. Anyway, writing about them keeps me SANE; probably because I never have that "yucky" feeling anymore.

  • Child Advocate

    dks said… "How far is this house from the old house?" ———– The new house is 47.9 miles northeast of the old house.

  • The Sunday Funnies From GWOP

    OverTheMOOn wrote: Wow! It's about time one of us organized this. Should we include our screen names so Kate knows who's writing? I think she would ((((SHUDDER))) to read a letter signed "Serena." I know I would!

  • Proof

    Comeuppance?Posted by Annabelle | Mar. 1, 2009 at 9:35 AMCOMMENT:Once again, what would Kate's "comeuppance" look like to you?___________My ideal 'comeuppance' for Kate? Broke, divorced, alone, living in a tiny one bedroom apartment, estranged from her 8 adult children (she's estranged from her own family already, not a stretch to picture this scenario)and not a tv show/interview church appearance or product placement. Nothing. Just Kate. All alone. And BROKE. Karma's a bitch. Just like Kate.

  • Jen

    I dare any "fan" who is obsessed about GWOP to stop mentioning GWOP or fans, or non fans or anything and have a discussion purely on Jon and Kate and the show and what Jon and Kate have done. The response to Gracie's comment was an attack on her and no mention of the topic she brought up which is the history of Jon and Kate and how people were upset with them long before they were anyone. Very telling. Anyone who is on the fence about this discussion, gauge the comments here. Some people talk about the show, the parents, disagreeing with what they have done and others are obsessed parrots who caw, "GWOP, GWOP, GWOP" all day. Who do you take more seriously?

  • Helen

    I think GWOPers won't be happy unless Kate is left by Jon, hated by her kids, has Hannah on a medical weight loss plan, has gray hair (no hair color), is fat (really fat), lives in Jodi'a garage (because she is homeless), and brought up on ethics charges for some unknown reason from her days as a nurse – yup – they would be happy with all that. And they would think she deserved it too! What I don't get is the hate, real hate that GWOP has for the Gosselins. I mean, do they understand true child abuse? They are boycotting Whirlpool over J&K, do they understand child slave labor made many things they buy? Are they doing anything to stop that? I guess people have more fun attacking Kate's hair than addressing real issues, actual problems that abused children face everyday. Notice how comments that go deeper than Kate's frig never see the light on GWOP.

  • Helen

    WOW, Anonymous, you just perfectly made my point. Enough said. I'm speechless… you are truly are an evil person. And I don't say that lightly.

  • Proof

    Posted by Annabelle | Mar. 1, 2009 at 11:44 AMCOMMENT:Anonymous, thanks for your honesty in relating how a "comeuppance" would look to you. As I suspected, it is quite the scenario. That is what hate looks like, folks. If jon and Kate are selfish, greedy, haughty, whatever you think they are… does that mean you won't be satisfied until they are broke, alone, and "sorry" for who they've been? ——————Yep. Pretty much.

  • Annabelle

    Anonymous, do you hate other people on television to this degree, or just Kate Gosselin?

  • Child Advocate

    Seriously? Are you kidding me? That's not copyrightable and the original authors would have to be involved and you have to have legal reason to track an ISP. Seriously, I didn't think that it was a big deal. I figured the site would be willing to stand by it's comments. I'll let you be. I'm just going to stay away from the crazy.

  • Gracie Belle

    I checked out this GWOP that is being so discussed. I found a section on their front page called Relavent Articles. This has numerous newspaper articles and the like from 2004 & 2005. Before the show, before the 1.13 mil house. Before GWOP. You can't blame the backlash on anyone but the Gosselins, creepy fans. Man, did they piss people off! It makes sense now. If they were this greedy, uncouth and materialistic 5 years ago, no wonder now with money & fame they are 20 times worse.

  • Child Advocate

    See subject line.

  • ruth

    There are a lot of people who are saying what a terrible site GWoP is but seem to visit it daily. The fans of the show tell those who don't like it to stop watching. If you don't like what GWoP is about don't go there and read the posts.

  • Jen

    Gracie made probably the best point of this whole series of comments. This didn't start with the show, or the fans or GWOP or anything else. It started with the Gosselins. With the lie about Jon's job and everything that snowballed out of that. They were incredibly selfish and entitled before anyone outside of a 50 mile radius of their house even knew they existed. The people of their own town couldn't stand them YEARS ago. If more fans would read the old articles and comments from 2004-2005 before the Gosselins were anyone, they would see how their attitude pissed people off long ago. Wanting a free nurse at the state's expense of an extra year (after one year was already free) for six healthy children? They wanted free child care is what they wanted, knowing that tying up a skilled nurse would deprive a family with a seriously ill or disabled child a nurse they needed. What more do you need to know? They are selfish people, plain and simple.

  • GWOP is sad and pathetic

    Karma works both ways. I hope you can dunk fast enough when it swings your way. All the hate spewed on GWOP will certainly come back to everyone there in spades. ——TO: Gracie Belle (what a cheap fake name by the way), No one believes that you just looked at GWOP for the first time. Your post was your "kind" way of sticking it to the Gosselins without sounding as shrill as other GWOP. It didn't work. No one believes you. Are you neighbors with Jon and Kate too? Do you spy on them all day?

  • Billy Jean thats my name

    Sorry in last post meant to say Child Advocate! Thank you again for shutting them up! With all the sock puppets out there it gets confusing.

  • Jen

    Eight is Enough – Pittsburgh Tribune Review May 15, 2005 http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_334106.html"I understand that there is no medical necessity," Kate said. The Gosselins called the day after my telephone interview with Kate. They asked to preview this column before publication. My editor declined their request. Kate then said she wanted to retract everything — even though she admitted all of it was true.

  • seriously, i'll send you

    Laura Linger is a regular poster on GWOP. She includes a picture of herself with her posts. OH. MY. GOSH. She is SO UGLY. In the picture, she is sitting with her hands cupping her face, staring with a crazy look in her eyes at the camera. Why does she think people want to see her ghastly mug? Please take your picture down Laura, you are plain ugly. I laugh every time you make comments about Kate's appearance. Look in the mirror!! By the way, anyone who thinks my comments to Laura were mean or over the top? Well, Laura and GWOPers attack the Gosselins like that everyday. I guess ANON was right, karma really is a b*tch. Now run, don't walk, to do something with your ugly face, Laura. I would be willing to donate $$ to help you look better. Where can I send donations? You really are that ugly.

  • Annabelle

    Anonymous, thanks for your honesty in relating how a "comeuppance" would look to you. As I suspected, it is quite the scenario. That is what hate looks like, folks. If jon and Kate are selfish, greedy, haughty, whatever you think they are… does that mean you won't be satisfied until they are broke, alone, and "sorry" for who they've been?

  • Jo-ann

    Why are you people from Gwop so up in arms about your words being brought here? Are you ashamed of what you have said? Stand behind your words Gwop! There is nothing illegal about them being re-posted here.

  • Proof

    To AnonymousPosted by Helen | Mar. 1, 2009 at 10:51 AMCOMMENT:WOW, Anonymous, you just perfectly made my point. Enough said. I'm speechless… you are truly are an evil person. And I don't say that lightly. ————–So if you're speechless does that mean you're done posting? BTW, you'd better go work on your clairvoyance skills because you know nothing about this 'Anonymous' poster. Kate will get everything rotten that she deserves. SHE (not some random anonymous poster) is TRUE EVIL. Christian my @$$ Ha!

  • Cease&Desist

    Plagerism is illegal. I am now working in correlation with the editors and web masters of Philly Mag, as well as my wn internet provider, to track down your IP address as well as email and name. You should be hearing from my attorney by the end of this week.

  • Emmerz

    That anon comment is about as charitable as people expect Kate to be… except, not.

  • adkjfdjk

    So the Bulldykes over at: CrownPrincessMarieChantalofGreece are upset an actual article that was Negative about their QUEEN has been published. So give it a rest will ya? Spamming this board just shows what a group of psycho's you really are. If I owned this mag. I'd find each and everyone one of you and out you!!! Hmmm who knows maybe they will? You bulldykes need to find another hobby. I think ur seeing gwopers everywhere, even in your sleep you queens are delusional. Quit obsessing about GWOPers and get a life.Losers = highondegrassi, andrea, dorisboris margojate, etc. etc. bulldykes with nothing better to do? Bet you all have posters of Jon & Kate in your houses that you worship at every morning and night. So when the P&G article came out you posted as NinaBell and SamanthaNC this time you've come after GWOP. You sock puppets need to pick an identity and stick with it, I know its hard tho with all those voices in your head telling you what to do, lol.Oh forgot

  • Proof

    "yep, pretty much"Posted by Annabelle | Mar. 1, 2009 at 11:04 AMCOMMENT:Anonymous, do you hate other people on television to this degree, or just Kate Gosselin? —————-Ask Helen, she's the clairvoyant.

  • Sheli

    After reading here and at GWoP, I have come to the conclusion that what *really* bothers people is that Kate is not ashamed of who she is. It seems as though the people who go after her have one image of a mother, in the mold of a "Jodi", and they want Kate to admit that she doesn't measure up to that ideal. Because she is: ambitious, snarky, honest, assertive, etc. That is who she is, and she isn't sorry for that. To me, yes, that kind of confidence is admirable. I don't think you are ever going to see Kate Gosselin apologize for her personality, and I DO admire her for that.

  • Child Advocate Rocks

    Child Advocate- I wouldn't worry about plagiarism. You clearly attribute all comments to the folks at GWoP. You are quoting them and attributing your quote so, nothing to worry about! Post on!

  • Cease&Desist
  • Billy Jean thats my name.

    You did it! Yeah! I think they finally got the message!!!! YOU ROCK!!!! HOPE YOU GET EM ALL!!!!! Hope you find all their IP addresses and teach them a lesson!!!! THANK YOU! Now we can get back to discussing the article and what a great job Jessica did on it!!!

  • Anon

    No, they are not related to GWOP. It's a separate site with numerous boards, one of which is dedicated to snarking on GWOP.

  • GE

    Who are these Marie Chantal people? Are they related to GWOP? And how is quoting GWOP's site illegal?

  • Anon

    There's nothing illegal about quoting GWOP posts. Cease and Desist not only doesn't know how to spell plagiarism, s/he doesn't know the meaning of the word either.

  • GE

    Plagiarism is when you use someone else's writing without crediting them. But, quoting comments left on GWOP is not plagiarism. And comments left on GWOP's site is not copyrightable. Who is/are Marie Chantal? Are they related to GWOP?

  • o

    Your comments were very interesting. I tend to agree.

  • GE

    Are they the ones made about the GWOP comments being posted here? How does it relate to them (Marie Chantal)?

  • lisa

    I think the fans are more obsessed with GWOP than with the G's. If you dislike GWOP so much why would you generate traffic to their site? I personally think GWOP is a very informative site, with great recaps and posts. So thank you Kate fans for mentioning their names over and over, directing millions of new visitors to their site! Man, you guys are so smart.

  • J.J.

    Boy you said a mouth full, and it is so true, that site has never once had a decent thing to say about that family, and guess what? they are now starting on the Duggers. Well I guess they think they better have a head start on a new show in case the Gosselins go away. You both did an excellant job od describing just how low those yucky ppl gwop are, Thank You

  • ee

    GWOP is being discussed because it was the basis (I think the writer called it "ground zero") for the article. Cease and Desist: Your thinking is full of holes. I'm talking to my attorney about what can be quoted and used from comments left on blogs. There is a true answer and I intend to find it. No one in this debate should be unfairly censored.

  • I admire her to!!!

    That was great, yes Kate is Kate as well as we are all our very own person, and I am sure there are ppl who don't exactly like the way we act/or say things. I admire Kate that she has not let this tear her down, and she just keeps doing what she does, She is not worried about what these morons think/say and thats exactly what ticks them off, she is not worried and she is still going to the bank, regardless of how much they hate her, she is better for it, I guess that would be a thorn in someones side " hating them so bad, talking trash on them at every turn, and watching them thrive. Oh My,My,MY

  • Cease&Desist

    When you copy and paste words from a entry written by a professional writer who submitted it for publication on a national level, you compromise it's abilty to be accepted, thus compromising that writer's income potential as well as abusing their reputation by posting their work as your own, under your name or nickname. It is plagarism, as well as defamation of character and libel. When one causes another to lose something tangible (publication, work, income) via slandering them, yes, that is in fact the legal definition of disambiguation.

  • Jo-ann

    Are you seriously trying to claim the posters at GWOP are professional writers whose nasty comments would somehow earn them income if for not being reposted here? Surely you jest.

  • kAtE

    Hey Dummies How the Heck R U All?! Look out the window guys and gals because your neighbors are losing their jobs and houses. The economy is the worse since the depression. In fact … Now wait for it….some analysts are predicting it may get a lot worse before it gets better so by this week will "YOU" have a job?! You fools want to sit around and debate Kate Gosselins because why? How about youse go out and volunteer at a food bank? I went to a fast food restaurant this a.m., and there was a man and his two kids in the trash can looking for food. Yep. You think he cared about Kate Gosselin?! GROW UP EVERYONE AND START WORRYING ABOUT 'REAL' LIFE PROBLEMS, NOT A DUM REALITY TV SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!G

  • Cease and Desist

    Please continue to spam the board. Interupting the flow of dialog. You are going to have a lot of explaining to do, in the very near future. Mr. or Mrs. Cut and Paste.

  • Kaitlin

    Scroll up and you'll see I found them doing it, made them confess, and put a stop to it!! I did remove the beam, thank you very much!

  • Kat

    You asked if I have a problem with the 'funny' comments posted from the GWOP site. My answer, I don't think those comments are in the least bit funny, and I have a problem with the comments I see on a great many sites, both from the fans and the haters. And I know many comments are posted just to stir the pot, I know this because my own children and their friends do this. They don't give a fig for the show, some don't even watch it, they just post comments for something to do to pass the time. The enjoyment they get is the reaction from real posters as they make both sides fly into a frenzy. That was my point.

  • Kat

    …most likely posted comments such as "hannah is fat", or whatever other ugly comment is made, they don't do it because they actually believe it, they do it to get a rise out of the fans. Then they will post the opposite view saying that Jon & Kate the best role models for parents just to see the 'haters' fly into one of their frenzies. And you both take the bait. But just know a lot of times you think you are fighting with a mother or father, or adult but you are playing into the game of teenagers. It's not my business if you want to continue to do that, but just so that everyone is aware. Continue on with your fun everyone.

  • Ashash

    Maybe you should take a look at Bohemian Moon's site if you're so concerned about cutting and pasting taking money from authors and publishers. She reposted this whole article and regularly posts entire articles. I bet you don't care, though, since she's a smug loon like you!

  • TheSecondFridge

    So… someone who allows her children to troll on blogs has the temerity to criticize another parent? Take the beam out of your own eye, lady.

  • Kat

    Someone is doing to you what your kids do!! Hahahahaha!

  • L

    J&K plus 8 and the Duggars' publicity spawned octomom. TLC won't take responsibility or stop until it is no longer profitable. Simply stay away from all TLC programming. Oh, and Jon's former employer should sue J&K/TLC.

  • Cease & Desist (The First

    There is a difference between posting another's work when their name is attatched to it, as compared to posting someone else's work, with your own name attatched to it. I apologize for your misunderstanding and look forward to any further clarifications you may require in the future.

  • Anon

    I'm sure people are quaking in their boots over empty threats from someone who doesn't understand plagiarism and has no clue about copyright law. (Hint: It is not okay to copy an entire piece of copyrighted material and post it on another web site, even if you credit the source.) Nobody here has stolen anybody's words and claimed them as their own, so I have no clue why you keep harping on plagiarism. Please do continue to "clarify." It's quite amusing.

  • Carol

    Many people have written that we should all "get a life", stop complaining, etc. I think that the bottom line is that we all believe the children may be suffering just a little from the parents (J&K) selfishness. Sure, the parents and children needed help from family and the community, but they have received that, took advantage of the kindness of others by eventually moving into a million dollar home, but it is now time that they take full responsibility of their finances and the show needs to be cancelled. What we all can do, and I am sure that we are already doing it — help those in our communities that need our help with fuel assistance, food pantries, and in any other ways that we can all lend a hand in kindness. I have been unemployed since September, not for the lack of applying for jobs (68 applications so far have been filed) and I have taken advantage of this "free time" and have been volunteering in my public library which has suffered staff time cut backs. With our co

  • Anonymous

    I understand having concerns about aspects of the show or even Kate's behavior. It sounds like the best thing is just to keep the t.v. off. I admire you for not getting pulled into the GWoP nonsense. It's too bad there isn't a site for those who have problems with the show that doesn't endorse stalking the family and making fun of the kids. Sad.

  • CA Mom

    Yes, I remember reading a comment on GWOP about them wanting to get Nancy Grace on the Gosselins' "case". Can you believe it? I mean, Nancy goes after CRIMINAL stuff, really horrible things… and they want her to attack the Gosselins – for pete's sake!

  • margaret

    all of you people are really SICK. Get a life ! WTF

  • Anonymous

    I know how most of you feel about Mady bashing but I don't feel sorry for her. She reminds me of that movie The Bad Seed.

  • Anonymous

    When i was a child, I had no inteest in going anywhere. I was happiest at home. Traveling and outings are something that parents want: adults need an escape from the day-to-day drudgery during the week. The Gosselin children dont need a getaway. Jon and Kate don't work, so they definitely don't need a getaway. What's important is not experiencing new places; but getting to know parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins… The one adventure that I DID like as a child was hauling stuff to the dump lot. I was ecstatic at the dump lot. I liked to see what people threw away. The Gosselins couldn't haul their stuff to a land fill: the sponsors would never approve.

  • Calei

    The Philly Mag is very well respected. Therefore, I belive that their reporters are top-notch and well informed of their subjects. Good job Jessica, I look foward to your next piece.

  • Anonymous

    I am a single mother and to see those beautiful children receive so many things and go so many places that MY beautiful child may not get to do, since I actually earn MY living, it just upsets me

  • Lisa

    I will say, I first visited GWOP by googling the Gosselin name after watching the 4th of July episode where Kate was wigging out about the boys helping with the ridiculous flag cake. I was appauled at how she was and wondered if anyone felt the same. I found this site and felt like at least I wasn't alone in findng it all strange. Then I also read personal attacks on the kids which I in open dialogue said we should leave the kids out of it, that it is inappropriate. I was immediately accused of being Jon or Kate and banned from ever posting on it again. Unfortunately, like Jon and Kate's show, GWOP started off as a well written blog where viewers can add input and it has turned into low class attack session. Just like JOn and Kate, what started out entertaining quickly turned sour.

  • Lisa

    I goofed on my subject line.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous said… From ANON> 9-6-08 8:11 pm: I'm wondering if anyone has contacted Nancy Grace from CNN? I emailed Nancy Grace about a month ago, and included a link to this website, GWoP, encouraging her to check it out. I got a genereated email back saying the message would be forwarded to appropirate department. maybe soon she'll be on the case!

  • fr

    Carol, you sound like a good person. I can understand you thoughts on Jon and Kate. But, that GWOP is not full of good people like you. Good luck with your job search. It is hard out there right now. P.S. That's also one reason I won't be joining GWOP's boycotts, they will hurt innocent workers!

  • Sherp

    Beth at 8:12PM 2/28 – It was Alexis and not Harrah that needed help with her hair on the train. Hard to be taken seriously when you can't even identify the kids correctly. Hope thats substantial enough for you. Writing nasties about the kids and you don't even know one from another? Now, thats a hoot. All the best to this family and may all the blessing of life come to them.

  • Carol

    A lot of info that GWoP receives is kept quiet to protect the children. Get off their ass, and open up your eyes! Ok, it's insignificant, alright! Almost 3 million HITS.

  • Anonymous

    GWOP never cared about the children, only a vendetta to hurt Kate. The lie constantly and have to monitor their boards because of all the lies and rumors people start there. Everyone knows they are a bunch of nasty mean crazies. Serena, is that you?

  • Anonymous

    What's GOWP? That is a site I might check out. As for your ? number of hits, a large number of them are people checking you out to laugh at your jealousy, lack of analytical thought and over-the-top investment. You know what your millions of HITS tell me – you have done a great job contributing to the Gosselin buzz. Your site has been up 9 or so months and all you have to show for it outside the blogesphere are two National Enquirer articles and one in a regional publication by a recent college grad. No Nancy, Dr. Phil, Bill O'Reily exposes like you have lead your readers to believe. Meanwhile, the Gosselins have a highly rated cable show (still) and continue to branch out into other endeavors.

  • JJ

    Sure we are wrong, I mean even Jim Jones had how many followers? and they drank Kool Aid spiked with poison, but they still thought he was "GOD" ever wonder what it was like to die for him?

  • KarenWalker

    In one place a Kate fan laughs and people boycotting because "they are hardly a blip on the screen." Now, boycotting will cause people to loose jobs? Which is it? We CAN make a difference or we CAN'T??? I wonder how all the people laid off from LANE furniture feel about the Gosselins getting free furniture for their estate while they collect unemployment?

  • Sara

    Both of these boards are filled with spiteful women who could care less about the Gosselin children. Both of these boards are run by snotty bitches who only allow certain people to post. Usually the ones who have nothing better to say then crap about Kate's hair or what type of fridge that is. ( Yes a whole comment board was about a fridge) Do you really think that these posters seriousy care about the Gosselin children? Because if they did care then they would say something to Kate's face when they see her; and many have come in contact with her and said nothing like cowards. GWOP & especially GDNNOP are just in it for their own reasons and not the childrens. Oh and GDNNOP are filled with hypocritical Christian women who are the biggest sinners of them all.

  • J.J.

    what does it matter if the Gosselins got free furniture? and that is another speculation of you ppl, who knows for a fact it was free? not you or any of your peeps. I guess you think the house was free? Thats what is wrong with all the lies and stories going around, they are not facts, not proof, As far as Lane furn, employees K&J getting free furniture did not make any difference concerning their unemployment at all, there are ppl who don't even get that,

  • J.J.

    You know one of the biggest sins in the bible is "GOSSIP?" do you know that the bible says " you can take a wild animal and tame it, but you can not tame the TONGUE?" do you know the bible says "The tongue is sharper than a two edged sword?" Do you know that the bible says "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor?" And Sara I do agree with what you just wrote, it's never been about the kids as much as their pure HATE for some one they don't even know. and that goes double for the writers who start this crap.

  • peg

    Ok, Jon and Kate are horrible ,what good does it do to foam at the mouth (both sides)like you people do? Is any of this life or death to your own families? No I don't think so !I can not believe you don't have something better to do.Maybe you should go read your child a book !!!!That would be worth your time and energy.

  • Anita

    I really enjoyed the article. The difference between the early J&K shows and the shows of the past year is J&K have fallen prey to one of the deadly sins-GREED. Plain and simple.

  • Geoff

    There are more than enough reasons not to engage in gossip. So let's refrain from commenting on and reading about situations we don't know all the details of. And are frankly none of our business.

  • Marla

    Hey Geoff, so do you approve of the Gosselins hiding being Jesus when they are not honest about their financial situation, or when they still are using the lie if Jon being fired by his boss and not giving the truth as to why he was fired? The writer went to Jon's former boss etc. I hope very soon someone stands up in one of these churches and has the guts to ask them outright about what his boss has said.It IS out business when the Gosselins are coming into Church Congregations and them paying an enormous fee {Out of congregants tithes many times} and then not telling the truth THAT makes it peoples business as the family has taken it from the TV into everyday peoples lives.What nice is that God will ALWAYS expose those who use him no matter who they are.

  • Proof

    Posted by Sherp | Mar. 1, 2009 at 6:43 PMCOMMENT:Beth at 8:12PM 2/28 – It was Alexis and not Harrah that needed help with her hair on the train. Hard to be taken seriously when you can't even identify the kids correctly. Hope thats substantial enough for you.————————–And it's hard to take YOU seriously when you misspell the correct tup's name.Touche

  • Proof

    You J&K Supporters are wrong about GOWPPosted by | Mar. 1, 2009 at 8:03 PMMeanwhile, the Gosselins have a highly rated cable show (still) and continue to branch out into other endeavors. ————I wouldn't exactly call #36 (for cable) TOP-RATED!From: tvbythenumbers.comhttp://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/24/wwe-raw-the-closer-and-monk-lead-weekly-cable-viewing/13386#more-13386JON & KATE PLUS 8 TLC Mon 09:00P-09:30P 2,952 (000)That's under 3,000,000 viewers for 2/17 episode. Ratings posted every Tuesday.Again, Pa Gosselin lied with his embellished 19,000,000 viewership quote in Utah interview (kutv.com).

  • Jay
  • ded

    The writer at Glamour.com says in the article that she interned at Philly Mag ("good times" I think she says). She is just promoting the article for them. She's scratching their back, she's on Philly's team. Do you think they want to be accused of bad journalism for relying on GWOP for so much stuff? Of course not. So, they get their "friends" to hype the article with positive stuff. People support other people they know in the writing biz (author says she is a free- lancer). Heck, she might even do jobs for Philly Mag. Her aticle was all payback to Philly.

  • ded

    Before I get snarky remarks, the spelling of "freelancer" above was on two different lines, hence my use of -. But, when it was posted, it came up on one line. Yes, I do know how to spell. Save your snarks for another time GWOPers!

  • Kat

    I think between Octomom and these greed stories it's over for Jon & Kate Plus 8. Aside from angle of the kids having to help support the family financially, everyone loves an underdog, and they don't seem like the underdogs anymore. Everyone loves to help build you up, but once you're on top they can't wait to see you fall. And if it will sell newspapers and magazines, if there is an inkling of a story there, it's going to be dug into.More and more bad press will come out. Right or wrong, their days are numbered.

  • J.J.

    Marla, they do not take the tithe to pay for speakers at churches, if your does ypu should be questioning the board and the pastor, the thite has nothing to do with "the donations" or what a speaker gets, Besides we are required by God to pay our thite, what the church does with it then is on their hands, your part is paying your 10%. the rest is between them (the ones you trust with your thite) and God.

  • Nia

    Wow – I just posted a comment on another site saying that Jon & Kate are great – but after reading this article – Yuck – they suck.

  • Jill

    Between finding out that GWOP was started by neighbors/friends of Jon and Kate and over the top comments from posters, I no longer trust the site. It was Jodie absence that brought me to GWOP and now she won't talk anymore on there either. Here is my question: Who is really behind GWOP? I know about how they explain it on their site, but what is the truth? If anyone has any info, please feel free to share. Personally, I think GWOP and J&K are alike in a lot of ways. They really deserve each other. BUT, the G kids are innocent and don't deserve the horrible things said about them (forever documented on the net) on GWOP. To say a child isn't loved by their parents is so beyond words. It seems like a subculture has developed around J&K, very weird. I'm sure part of their high ratings are the wackos at GWOP watching the shoe just to then write about it. I mean, how does that make any sense?

  • Anonymous

    I'm not a fan of Kate and see the greediness going on. But people who have true intentions for child advocacy would do much more than complain about Kate on a website. Constantly snarking about 1 person on a website does not equal child advocacy. The show will end in due time, but not as a direct result from any of the hate websites, so please don't insult the true child advocates that meet with Congress in Washington and claim that you're a true child advocate.

  • Ellie

    …I don't think it's documented forever, once the site is shut down isn't it gone? Unless someone cuts and pastes it in other places.GWOP will be history along with Jon & Kate Plus 8. No worries for either side of the argument. It will soon all be history.Let's just hope that some kind of Gosselin Law is enacted to help children on Reality shows.

  • ddd

    No, once on the net, forever written. People will be able to find it. A 15 year old Mady will find out the people think she needs mental help. Good job, GWOP. Cause, you know, GWOP's ONLY CONCERN IS PROTECTING THE GOSSELIN CHILDREN. Evil takes many forms…

  • jon gosselin

    quit your lecturing on what a non fan should do you kindergarten drop-out. your an idiot. get a life, loser. i married a full fledge witch why should i have to read what a witch like you has to write? you hag.

  • fff

    EXACTLY!! I agree 100%.

  • Jon Gosselin

    bite me f'tard. i'll post wherever i want whenever i want. i can't stand kate gosselin so i'll continue to post at gwop or wherever the hell else i please. thats america, baby.

  • Grandma Gosselin

    mady won't be readin these comments on the web. she'll probably be strung out on drugs or have committed suicide by the time she's 12. juss sayin. mady is screwed up because she has kate gosselin for a mom and a f'tard loser for a dad.

  • erfd

    I see the GWOPers are back. I heard they have a "private" blog where they don't hold back on their true feelings about Kate. It's private so the public won't see their unvarnished hate spilling out. So, I guess that means GWOP is their version of PG attacks on Kate and the kids. That is so silly and stupid, what kind of people must they be like? Crazy, stalking neighbors… Do you think they will move to Jon and Kate's new neighborhood? I mean, they need to keep up the spying and such….

  • c

    This article is unbelievably biased. What are you basing your facts on, internet blogs? We all know how reliable those are. Just to clear up your quote from the show, Jon and Kate clearly stated more than a few times that they do NOT want more children. You completely distorted this clip from the show.

  • Alison

    Jon and Kate have said they don't want more children, but in an interview for tv, ( think it was Regis & Kelly) they said they wanted to adopt a baby girl from Korea. So, if they weren't always lying and contradicting themselves people wouldn't have anything to write about, now would they?

  • Survivor Really Sucks ! ! ! R

    highondegrassi, andrea, margojata, morningsun, etc., stalkers of GWOP – you total morons! Get a life you pathetic losers. How stupid can you get blogging about bloggers?! OMG total retardation! Losers! SockPuppets! Whats the matter can't any of you scumbags of society get a job or is collecting them welfare checks just too addictive, you bulldykes. Anyhoo we at SS have decided to do a whole thread on you 3 or is it 4? Whatever with so many names I'm sure you cut and paste queens find it hard to keep up. Anyways keep a lookout because more is comin your way…..lol

  • Survivor Really Sucks ! ! ! R

    highondegrassi, andrea, margojata, morningsun, etc., stalkers of GWOP – you total morons! Get a life you pathetic losers. How stupid can you get blogging about bloggers?! OMG total retardation! Losers! SockPuppets! Whats the matter can't any of you scumbags of society get a job or is collecting them welfare checks just too addictive, you bulldykes. Anyhoo we at SS have decided to do a whole thread on you 3 or is it 4? Whatever with so many names I'm sure you cut and paste queens find it hard to keep up. Anyways keep a lookout because more is comin your way…..lol

  • Survivor Really Sucks ! ! ! R

    highondegrassi, andrea, margojata, morningsun, etc., stalkers of GWOP – you total morons! Get a life you pathetic losers. How stupid can you get blogging about bloggers?! OMG total retardation! Losers! SockPuppets! Whats the matter can't any of you scumbags of society get a job or is collecting them welfare checks just too addictive, you bulldykes. Anyhoo we at SS have decided to do a whole thread on you 3 or is it 4? Whatever with so many names I'm sure you cut and paste queens find it hard to keep up. Anyways keep a lookout because more is comin your way…..lol

  • Survivor Really Sucks ! ! ! R

    highondegrassi, andrea, margojata, morningsun, etc., stalkers of GWOP – you total morons! Get a life you pathetic losers. How stupid can you get blogging about bloggers?! OMG total retardation! Losers! SockPuppets! Whats the matter can't any of you scumbags of society get a job or is collecting them welfare checks just too addictive, you bulldykes. Anyhoo we at SS have decided to do a whole thread on you 3 or is it 4? Whatever with so many names I'm sure you cut and paste queens find it hard to keep up. Anyways keep a lookout because more is comin your way…..lol

  • Survivor Really Sucks ! ! ! R

    highondegrassi, andrea, margojata, morningsun, etc., stalkers of GWOP – you total morons! Get a life you pathetic losers. How stupid can you get blogging about bloggers?! OMG total retardation! Losers! SockPuppets! Whats the matter can't any of you scumbags of society get a job or is collecting them welfare checks just too addictive, you bulldykes. Anyhoo we at SS have decided to do a whole thread on you 3 or is it 4? Whatever with so many names I'm sure you cut and paste queens find it hard to keep up. Anyways keep a lookout because more is comin your way…..lol

  • SS

    You can drag a horticulture, but you can't make her think.

  • ssss

    Good heavens, since when is thinking about more children (maybe yes – maybe no) classified as "lying"? Only in the crazy GWOP world!

  • alison

    When they say, "yes, we want to adopt a baby girl from Korea," then they say, "No, we will not have more children." Which is it? Listen, I get that people can change their minds, but these two just don't change their minds, they change their stories. I am very interested to hear Jon and Kate explain the whole situation with his getting fired by the mean ole' boss who didn't want to insure all those kids they didn't even mean to have! I hope their PR team gives themselves a raise. They deserve it if they can spin this to look good for Jon & Kate. LOL

  • sdsd

    So Kate's a cold mean fish, huh? And because of this, it is OK to spread lies, gossip, rumors about her, her kids, her husband? Because, well, you know, she deserves it, right? You sound so pathetic and immature…. Tell me are you boycotting Whirlpool? Cause that's so important right? Honestly, you people,….

  • Mary

    Jon and Kate are no longer deservant of their fans. Maybe if these fans ever get a chance to meet the 'real ' Kate Gosselin in person they can see who they are 'supporting'. She is a cold, mean fish! And Im being polite. The article was right on but way too nice!

  • Another Neighbor

    I have never been to GWOP. Do you assume that everybody who objects to child exploitation posts on GWOP? No, we don't. Some of us just found out about all the controversy and GWOP is only known to us because you nuts keep telling us.

  • Another Neighbor

    When they claim to NEVER EAT fast food and them we SEE them eating fast food. — that is lying. When Jon says Kate's parents have NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THEIR GRANDKIDS — but Kate's sister has pictures of her kids with their grandparents — THEY ARE LYING. When they say Jon lost his job because the company didn't want to insure the babies — THEY ARE LYING. Basically, if their lips are moving — THEY ARE LYING!

  • wwww

    If Jon and Kate were defaming Jon's old boss, he could certainly sue. After all, the Gosselins are now worth money. But, what you common fools don't understand is this: MANY EMPLOYERS FIGHT WORKERS WHEN THEY WANT TO COLLECT UNEMPLOYMENT. It costs the employers higher insurance payments if their workers collect unemployment. So, after firing workers, many employers use flimsy reasons for the firing (i.e., 10 minutes late once, etc…). Read news reports! Right now, with the economy, employers are firing people left and right, but blaming the worker (instead of the real reason: money trouble). This allows the employer to fire people and not pay higher insurance. You GWOPers are so uneducated about the world, it stuns me all the time. NO ONE knows what really happened in this matter, not you, not me. But, you blinding hate always leads you to thinking the worst of Jon and Kate. It reminds me of the Salem witch trials, only the modern day version, courtesy of GWOP.

  • bob

    Folks – Why do you care about this reality TV family this much? It scares me to death to see this much passion, this much searching for truth and justice (all good things) directed at this topic when it is never ever given to the issues that actually shape most people’s lives around the world. Is this just human nature – ignore the complex and important in favor of the mundane, unimportant, and purely visceral – or is this the worst of American culture at work? I understand why the journalist wrote the story – I get that. People will read this article. A journalist should be writing for their readers (though agree with some other commenters; this isn’t close to a real journalism job. It’s an editorial piece.).But please people – try to put this much effort and passion into something more worthy. Read about something complex that makes ones head hurt just a bit – read it in detail – and then throw some passion in that direction. Fine to get into the reality TV drama to relax at t

  • marg

    to Grandma Gosselin: This is the type of thing that proves how sick and ruthless people are.LEAVE THE KIDS OUT OF THIS YOU SICK A##.

  • Marie

    …when you already have kids and then you adopt a baby you ARE having MORE children, but I could be wrong about that. Maybe planning on adopting a baby isn't considered having more children because adopted children aren't really your children?

  • sara

    Everybody please, all this bickering is not going to solve anything, so let's talk about what's really important… the Gosselin kid's birthdays!!! May 10 is only 2 1/2 short months away ya'll!!! Let's all share what you're sending to the kids. I Bedazzled jean jackets for all six of them! They are soooooo adorable! I then painted matching sun visors. They will look so cute wearing them on their 4 vacations this summer ya'll! I don't know why Kate insists on wearing that Gymboree crap on them, it's soooo plain and boring. My own kids love the presents I make for the sextuplets but I tell them "this is for the G kids, when you're on TV you can have nice stuff like this too, now get lost." I send 4 or 5 boxes of my fancy clothes to Kate every year then I sit by the TV and wait to see them wear them. They haven't yet, but I think Kate is waiting to wear them for a real fancy occasion! She never thanked me either but it's because I know she is soooo busy flying on planes and stuf

  • Melissa

    Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded

  • lulu

    Did the state of PA pay for the hospital bill for the Gosselin sextuplets like the CA taxpayers are having to foot the bill for the Suleman babies?Imagine if they did have insurance, what the deductibles would be on all those babies alone. I'm more inclined to believe that Jon DID NOT want to be employed(wow, he bragged about not having to work again)…the state picked up the tab and they got a free nurse to come in the home. Why are they charging these churches anyway?

  • med student

    Farm kids in this country work and they work hard every single day. They don't get filmed going to Disney World. They don't get their college paid for because someone took their picture. They work to help feed their families and run their family farms. Heck, some schools even let kids miss a few days of school because of farming. What the Gosselin children do is no where close to "work". That is so laughable, it is silly. Kids work in other family businesses ALL the time, without pay. I did. My siblings did. Do you know what I got paid? Food, good shelter, decent clothes. I was lucky enough, in later years, because we all helped, there was money for college. Many kids who actually do work, never see that college money. The Gosselin children are very LUCKY, especially coming from a famliy with eight kids.

  • Sally

    i was just wondering how much you investigated your credible source as Jon's former boss. It is not legal to fire an employee for health care purposes. Especially for a business that does so well in a failing economy. I guess he had to establish a reason as to why Jon needed to be "let go". Did you ever ask Jon's boss how honest he might be? I suppose he never cheated someone out of a deal, house, transaction or told a lie? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

  • J.J.

    Your are the retarded one, if you have children, remember KARMA?

  • danielle

    Unless you can afford children, and all the stuff that comes with having a big family like housing costs and food then you SHOULD NOT be having them. With fertility treatments or not, if you can't afford a family don't start one. I'm sick of seeing these kinds of families like the Duggars portrayed as the most amazing, moral people. Just because people can breed or implant themselves with embryos doesn't make them great people. I would like to see my single life with no children portrayed as heroic, because I'm being responsible. The only difference between Jon and Kate and a welfare mom is that a welfare mom generally doesn't try to pimp out her kid.

  • J.J.

    Thank You, you made more reasonable sence in that statement than I've read in a long time, I was raised on a farm, and I feel like I was one of the lucky ones to have such wonderful parents, who taught us a good days worth of working hard, and how to treat others,How to feel blessed with what we ahd, and to "Love our neighbors as our selves" sure not much of that going on here huh? Thanks again for a great comment.

  • med student

    You are welcome. Common sense has been replaced with mania and delusion at GWOP. Farm kids everywhere could show the GWOPers what a REAL work day looks like and it is no episode of Jon and Kate Plus Eight.

  • QueenFreebieIreneJonboyNoBalls

    The Gosselin's were covered by PA Medical Assistance from a few months before the tups were born (taxpayers were footing the bedrest bill) up until over a year after their birth when the state denied their appeal to keep the Medicaid paid-for LPN as a 'second mommy', even though the children had no disabilities. Kate also received WIC (think 80.00 a case of preemie formula x 6 x 10 months plus other staples like baby cereal, juice, etc.)If you'd like, the PA DPW can confirm everything. Feel free to give them a call.

  • Kayla

    I do agree that it is wrong that their kids go though all of this but they are their kids. Not ours. & I honestly think that if most of us had 8 kids we would be glad to do the same (& I'm sure your thinking that you wouldn't but, if you had the chance I'm sure you would!)..I have 2 kids & life is hard enough sometimes with just them, Imagine having 8! Yes, they are living a pretty easy life..but who's fault is that? ours for watching the show. People are not perfect & they are trying their best (their way) to provide or I guess to entertain us so we can provide for their family. At least at one time before the show took over their lives they had jobs. On the other hand Nadya does not. & she now has 14 kids! They aren't entertaining us but guess what?! We pay for them through taxes! We pay for A LOT of moms to sit around and take care of kids with our money EVERYDAY! At least J&K are actually doing a little to earn the money!.Whereas Nadya is not! Point is the show is more than likely

  • alexandra

    Do you realize that you are complaining about a child receiving food for free? A child. And WIC doesn't cover ALL the food costs (i.e., milk, cereal, etc.) that a baby and toddler need. They provide a limited amount of support. I know because I donate to an organization that helps Moms on state support go to school and change their lives around. Your comments are so offensive. And then saying we can call PA and confirm everything – gross. I look at people in need and I am thankful for everything I have. I certainly do not scorn them, especially their children. Your hate for Kate has turned your heart ugly. I hope every child in need knows not to darken your door. How very sad for…

  • T

    Thank you for writing what everyone is feeling. The once humble Jon and Kate have turned their children into cash-cows. I am from a family of 8 and let me tell you, life in a large family is not wasy. As children we worked hard to have things we needed. Sadly Jon and Kate have exploited the fun and loving family that we once loved. We can hardly see the kids with all the product placement and what is up with Kate's new "tan". What does Jon do for a living now anyway?

  • Lezlie

    Jill what shoe are they watching? Manolo? Prada? I am intrigued by your quote."I'm sure part of their high ratings are the wackos at GWOP watching the shoe just to then write about it. I mean, how does that make any sense?"You are right Jill, what sense does your nonsense make?

  • Lezlie

    "I look at people in need and I am thankful for everything I have. I certainly do not scorn them, especially their children. Your hate for Kate has turned your heart ugly. I hope every child in need knows not to darken your door. How very sad for… "Yes the Gosselins are truly people in need. I think they need a bigger house and more trips! Otherwise my heart would be dark.Of course there are people in need. Of course most people understand this and would do what they can. These people just don't happen to be the Gosselins family, AT ALL.

  • Rachel

    I read most of the article, and America is the one that made this show as big as it is. i personally disagree that the marriage is loveless. If you claim that your marriage is "perfect" and you never get upset with each other and yell or disagree loudly, your a liar. i first loved the family because they are real. They had a real need for help whn those babies were born and yes now they are doing very well for themselves thanks to America. I think alot of people need to let them be. If they dont agree with them then don't watch it.

  • alison

    When Jon and Kate were accepting handouts, donations, government assistance, they kept Jon's inheritance from his father a secret. When it was discovered, Kate had the audacity to claim that they shouldn't have to use their money; people just needed to help! Sound familiar? Yeah, she said it again when she was begging to keep the nurse as a babysitter for another year. Even the judge told her that the children did not medically need a nurse; what the parents needed was a hand holder, someone to basically come in and babysit on the taxpayers' tab. Kate never got out of bed before 8 a.m. How many mothers of infants do you think get to sleep in every morning? Mothers who have "nannies." Free nannies. The fact that they still claim to do it all, and claim that they DID it all is a lie. Even Dr. Phil paid for a nanny for them! Then Kate went back on his show and claimed that they didn't have any help! How stupid can people be?

  • SSS

    How dumb can you be? It is obvious that she meant "show" and typed in "shoe". The E key is right beside the W key on the computer. Jill talks about GWOPers watching it and then writing about it. The SHOW you fool!! They grow smart ones over there at GWOP.

  • alison

    The reason I believe this journalist is stating facts, not opinion, is because in Julie's blog (Jodi's sister) she said that Jon and Kate had said to people that it was their goal to never work again. Then Jodi appeared in a video and said that Julie was telling the truth. What's so hard to believe that these two are lazy and manipulating liars? They're laughing all the way to the bank. People need to open their eyes and see what is going on. Trust me, Jon and Kate don't care about their fans. Kate has said that her fans "are silly and ridiculous." They put up signs to keep their fans away; they used to rope their driveway closed when they went on trips so their fans could not pull into their driveway. They're taking your money, calling you idiots and snickering at you as you walk away with your stupid photo they just sold you of their "family." They. Are. Creeps.

  • ddd

    "…the once humble Jon and Kate…" "…$1.3 million house…" "…Kate's new tan…" You all sound upset because Jon and Kate no longer need WIC support. They actually did what so many tell those on government aid to do, support themselves. You people are just upset because they are now higher earners than you, so you make immature, snide comments about all their new things. The question isn't whether they "need" a $1.3 million house. If they can afford it, why not? Because one time they took WIC support, they must be in poverty forever? Don't want to see the people who used to need your help, now doing so well, huh? You guys are petty, dumb jerks. Oh, and med student, you are completely RIGHT. The Gosselin kids do not work.

  • Charlene

    Here's an idea. Why don't the Gosselin's pay back the state of PA for the multi million dollar medical bill it costed the taxpayers to pay for their 6 neonates? Or how about donating the roughly 50 cases or so of formula back to the WIC program? Octomom is being villianized all over the media for accepting govenment assistance, but the Gosselins did it too. While they were sitting on an inheritence stashed under a relative's name, no less. How about paying back the 25k the state spent on the 12 month salary of Angie Krall? Yeah, I didn't think so.

  • Debbie

    I used to be a fan of show until I started to notice the things that were changing about the show, then I read the many blogs at GWOP. The one that got me really mad was the article that Kate did "Mother of sextuplets faces loss of medicaid"Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births. B___ S___!Sounds like this is where the octoplet mom is a "copy cat" because she feels the same way.

  • SSS

    Well, now Kate doesn't need "society" to help raise her kids, and you people are still mad!! BTW, what business of it is yours to decide how they can make their money (i.e., TV show)? People make a lot more money doing a lot less respectable things. Oh, wait, you would rather see Jon working IT and Kate collecting WIC, cause that'll keep them humble.

  • Anon

    "The reason I believe this journalist is stating facts, not opinion, is because in Julie's blog (Jodi's sister) she said that Jon and Kate had said to people that it was their goal to never work again. Then Jodi appeared in a video and said that Julie was telling the truth."—–Let me get this straight. You define a "fact" as something that Julie said in a blog entry that she's since deleted that Jodi told her she heard Kate saying to other people. Uh, yeah, that's "factual" alright.

  • anonymous

    Charlene, I usually am on the fence (lack of a better word) with the J&K saga, but you hit it right on the head, this is absolutely the best suggestion I have read (except GWoP go drown some where) This would be the "Gravy Train" for J&K, if they would pay back Wic and even the nurses expence, but espically the welfare dept, I can imagine the fans would come back to thier defence a lot more, I see ppl in my state going with out and children going with out proper meals knowing there are ppl who are on welfare stealing those less fortunate blind it pisses me off. There are those who no fault of their own have fell to welfare assistance and can not get it b/c we have so many like the G's getting their portion,Cont' below

  • Anonymous

    you are a 100% right, if we all had exactly what we really NEEDED we sure wouldn't have much would we? I wonder how many of these morons on here ( or what did you call them? petty jerks?) LOL have new cars, new SUV's homes and more'n likely getting some kind of assistance them selves. How many of them will pull them selves out of a bad situation and do better by what ever means is handed to them, Oh my is it not so hard to throw rocks at some one else when your own hose is made of durty glass? I know no one on here is going to fess up, on how they live ot struggle, or how much life has handed them a lemon at times and they have had to ask/beg for help, but when it comes to kids I would beg/borrow/steal or any thing for them, Thank You for your kind words.

  • Anonymous

    If J&K really appreciated what was done for them they would start with that giving back, espically to the ones who need it the most, I guarantee you, right now they could easily give the state a million$$$$$ and they will get at least that much and more back before the year is up, I don't think ppl really can imagine how much money they have made b/c of this show and all the perks that go with it. They no matter what happens(if they have a CPA or financial planner) will have to worry about feeding their kids again, Like in my state we ahve Friday back packs, it is designed to send kids home every Fri. with back packs full of food, so the kids will eat on weekends, Those G's kids will never worry about that.

  • J.J.

    First of all there is another statement supposingly from Julie saying her sister has caused her a lot of grief, second of all , the reason the Gosselins had to put up signs was b/c ppl from GWoP kept driving to their house, even the neighbors complained about ppl stalking the Gosselins, so J&K never knew who was stalkers or who would take off with one of their kids or who truly just wanted to say Hi, so you can't blame them, do you ever read or watch the news? or do just spend time stalking J&K? b/c frankly we have missing children, some right there in their own state.There are those who would grab up one of those kids in a minute, the Gosselins have money to negociate with,have you read about little Haleigh Cummings? took out of her bed. now complain about their signs some more,

  • Anonymous

    If all children on reality shows are expoited, aren't the Duggars exploiting their children too? Yes they live more modestly, but they are definitely making money from the show (no one does a TV show for free). I went to the Duggars w/o Pity website and there's hardly any talk of how Michelle & Jim Bob are exploiting their kids. Aren't the kids' constant filming "damaging" them too? There is an equal mix of younger as well as older children on that show. Just because Michelle is polite and nice doesn't mean she's not making a pretty penny to show her kids on TV. So if the critics of Jon & Kate are all about "child exploitation," why arent't you calling out the Duggars for it too? Yes, you can be polite, soft-spoken, and well-mannered but still exploit your kids.

  • ssss

    There is a lawyer in my town, a female single mom, who is now very successful. Before college and law school, she was on gov. assistance. She is easily a millionaire now. Oh, and her family (brothers)were highly successful Hollywood producers when she was on aid. (All true, my town is Columbus, OH.) Should she payback all the government aid she got because now she is wealthy? That is not how the system works. BTW, you can't "hide" an inheritance, the IRS gets the paperwork. When J&K signed up for WIC, they would have had to list income/assets. If they had lied back then, people would have found out by now and sued them. Gossip, drivel, petty remarks…. DO NOT MAKE FACTS. YES, IT IS CALLED A WITCH HUNT!!

  • Kelly

    The difference between Jon and Kate & the Duggars is – once again – the ONLY income Jon & Kate have is from the exploitation of their children. The Duggars – and the Roloffs as well – have businesses that provide family income OTHER THAN what is generated by the tv shows. Jon Gosselin does not work – Kate does not work – their ONLY income is from the exploitation of their children.

  • Anonymous

    You know I don't think J&K had the inheritance when they first signed up for wic, The father was still alive at that time, But….as usual these ppl just love to speculate on a story/lie/rumour some one says "I think" and some where down the line some one else will say it as "it's really a fact, some where in between the two (think and fact ) gets mis-guided ALOT,and whence comes the lies. As Jon in a bar, I was told he was there with Kate and that is was only girl fans wanting a picture, and no!!! no one went home with him except Kate. This article is so full of speculations to make ppl more out raged, I guess Jessica gets her jollies by doing this piece, I my self would rather gossip on what I see on the show than what Jessica or any of GWoP has to say, at least what we see is true.

  • Kelly

    That was my EXACT sentiment when I heard the hospital bill for the 8 California babies would be in excess of $3 million….why NOT place a lien against the mother (who is trying to negotiate a reality show, $$$'s for her story, etc) for the hospital costs? Same would go for Jon & Kate Gosselin. I know that if I had the state paying my bills – and I got to keep what was coming in – I'd have a great amount of money in the bank! ;)

  • Anonymous

    Kelly, the exploitation is really an old tale, my god you ppl have to say that ever other post huh? how much do yoall exploit your own kids? every time they walk out the door, how about that Haleigh Cummings girl, she was not exploited on t.v. and yet she is missing, 5 yrs old and she is gone, Now I will guarantee you J&K are sleeping well at night, they are not all over the t.v. begging for their little girl to come home, So maybe you all should just keep your eye on your own kids (if you have any) at least J&K know where their kids are, BTW where is yours

  • anonymous

    okay this will show my age, but remember when Ricky Nelson died in that plane crash? oh yeah the media had a hay day with that, it was because of drugs, and when the truth came out that it was caused by a faulty heater on the plane, people did not want to hear that, No they wanted to believe a lie, they had more fun making up stories rather (lies) than telling the truth, Thats why I believe nothing I hear about J&K. You'd all be much happier if you would just comment on what you see on the show and quit letting these people who dig up all this untruths and disect every thing that they don't even do, You all talk about them like you actually know them personally and are neighbors with them, paallllleeeezzzzzeeeeee people.

  • Julieanne

    I am not believing the stupidity coming from the fans of J&K+8. There is NO rationale to exploit your children, I don't care who you are. You all want to defend the parents of these 8 innocent children, but you will NEVER defend the children who did not ask to be filmed! They have little to no privacy, no say-so of what is shown, and they have a horrid, hateful mother day in and day out. And because of the filming of their little lives, they will have a perpetual reminder of what their childhood was really like and what the "fans" would like people to believe. The idiocy of people stating that "if I could sit on my butt and not work a regular job, hell yeah I'd exploit my kids!" You all sound like redneck rubes, just like your idols, Jon and Kate Gosselin.

  • Kelly

    That's exactly what I meant, Anonymous. You CAN'T explain away the fact that the only income coming into the Gosselin household is from their children. You sound very sad though – kind of like the Gosselin kids' lost childhoods……

  • Kelly

    Anonymous – Exploitation of their children IS mentioned a lot – because that is just what it is – you can't argue that there is no income coming into that home that's not based on those children. So – instead of proving that statement wrong, it's always "oh those people yelling exploitation"…..I don't understand your analogy between the Gosselins & Haleigh Cummings missing, so I'll pass on that.

  • Anonymous

    Kelly give it up, don't you ever get tired of trying to be perfect, oh I wonder where you got that idea? no I don't wonder I already know, I hope octomom gets some kind of help, she really needs some one to help her and not take her kids away, I believe she has some kind of issuse and it's not just money, but I think that needs to be left to the EXPERTS and I don't mean the ones on these blogs. Altho I know you all would like to think of your seves as The Expert on parenting, how freakin laughable. or pitiful is a better word

  • Anonymous

    I was reading a comment of yours from several days ago, about how "this is it this is what you were begging for? to get anonymous ppl to send you comments" well of course it has to be by anonymous sources, that way they can say what ever and no one is responsible for it, not even Miss Jessica, She surely is not proud of this mud slinging dirt is she, I can not believe how many ppl praised her for this, soooo many lies.

  • Pam

    How could Jon hide an inheritance from his father, even in someone else's name? When his father's death was recorded, his estate would be distributed according to his will. That is a public record so it would be easy to see WHAT Jon inherited and when? Even though they put the money in someone else's name, the will would show the distribution. The State would love to track down someone that accepted aid while hiding assets. The inheritance would prove they exceeded income to qualify for state benefits. One of my parents received a small amt. of money from a relative and had to pay back an entire year's worth of prescriptions because that money disqualified her from the benefit. Someone in the know should be able to piece together the timing of Jon's money.

  • SC

    Some things aren't written down – but agreed to between husband (Jon's father) & wife (Jon's mother) to distribute jointly held $$$'s at the time of death. Just a guess.

  • Remaing the thorn in Kelly&#03

    Kelly you don't get it I understand that, the kids have lost what? what your kid will never have? those kids have far more advantage than any one that trashes them and their parents, and you all just can't stand it, I can just hear you howling at the moon every time you hear of a lottery winner,It's okay sweeyie to wish and dream amd want for more, only if your not wishing and wanting what your neighbors have, so why not when you say your prayers tonight, Thank God for what the Gosselins have, and be thankful for what you are already blessed with, I promuse you will feel like a new person. Are you woman enough to do that?

  • Remaing the thorn in Kelly&#03

    Kelly you don't get it I understand that, the kids have lost what? what your kid will never have? those kids have far more advantage than any one that trashes them and their parents, and you all just can't stand it, I can just hear you howling at the moon every time you hear of a lottery winner,It's okay sweeyie to wish and dream amd want for more, only if your not wishing and wanting what your neighbors have, so why not when you say your prayers tonight, Thank God for what the Gosselins have, and be thankful for what you are already blessed with, I promuse you will feel like a new person. Are you woman enough to do that?

  • Remaing the thorn in Kelly&#03

    Kelly you don't get it I understand that, the kids have lost what? what your kid will never have? those kids have far more advantage than any one that trashes them and their parents, and you all just can't stand it, I can just hear you howling at the moon every time you hear of a lottery winner,It's okay sweeyie to wish and dream amd want for more, only if your not wishing and wanting what your neighbors have, so why not when you say your prayers tonight, Thank God for what the Gosselins have, and be thankful for what you are already blessed with, I promuse you will feel like a new person. Are you woman enough to do that?

  • Remaing the thorn in Kelly&#03

    Kelly you don't get it I understand that, the kids have lost what? what your kid will never have? those kids have far more advantage than any one that trashes them and their parents, and you all just can't stand it, I can just hear you howling at the moon every time you hear of a lottery winner,It's okay sweeyie to wish and dream amd want for more, only if your not wishing and wanting what your neighbors have, so why not when you say your prayers tonight, Thank God for what the Gosselins have, and be thankful for what you are already blessed with, I promuse you will feel like a new person. Are you woman enough to do that?

  • Remaing the thorn in Kelly&#03

    Kelly you don't get it I understand that, the kids have lost what? what your kid will never have? those kids have far more advantage than any one that trashes them and their parents, and you all just can't stand it, I can just hear you howling at the moon every time you hear of a lottery winner,It's okay sweeyie to wish and dream amd want for more, only if your not wishing and wanting what your neighbors have, so why not when you say your prayers tonight, Thank God for what the Gosselins have, and be thankful for what you are already blessed with, I promuse you will feel like a new person. Are you woman enough to do that?

  • Kelly

    You can't defend the fact that the children are the Gosselin's income stream – so you try (emphasis on TRY) to insult posters. It's not working. It's sounds as if you're trying to project your sad, tortured soul on others. That's pitiful.

  • alison

    What do you expect from people who would gladly and happily sell out their own children's childhoods to live the life of the Gosselin family? Of course you're not going to get through to them, Kelly!

  • Another Neighbor

    If you enjoyed this article, support this mag and by 12 copies for only $9.95. That is a great deal!!! Show them that this story made a difference!!

  • alison

    Can't you "gift" someone in your will and spare the beneficiary the tax on it? I think that's a one time deal here in Texas. I know people who have done it and it's set up specifically in a way to keep the funds out of the IRS' greedy hands. I don't know . . . I just don't believe that Jon and Kate have ever really been that destitute. I read somewhere that before Jon's father died, he helped them out financially PLENTY. Even gave them the downpayment for their first house (or cosigned the mortgage for them). That would explain why he's the ONLY relative that Kate acknowledges. Seems like she's getting over him now, though, wanting to just get "rid" of his "stuff."

  • sss

    Jon's mom and dad were DIVORCED at the time of Jon's dad's death! And just because your estate is too small to be taxed, estates have to file with the IRS, whether they owe money or not. Plus, all estates are public record at probate. You people are naive and dumb. You people sound like small towns hicks, gossiping about people.

  • Nikki
  • SC

    Look Be-dazzler head, I'm not going to explain inheritance tax law to you – but let me just explain that an account can exist in an "and/or" status – and be listed in the estate – but how the proceeds are paid out are not tracked. Now, go back & read your "Law For Dummies" book (without Gosselin kids pics, I know – but you'll survive)

  • wwww

    Where is the poster who calls themselves "Best of GWOP"? I need some comic relief?

  • Jon is a Douche

    Jon and Kate have been conning the welfare system and the people since the time the two hooked up. If you go back far enough you'll see that Kate was receiving state "services" when the twins were born. Yes – Kate and Jon were both working but as Jon was a government employee he knew how to beat [use] the system. Kates dad being a preacher Kate knew she could always rely on the generosity of churchgoers to scam them of their money too. These two have a good system to separate people from their money and all their fans are falling for it.

  • New Yorker

    It's obvious the GWOPers have nothing to back-up their crap. My favorite is the link to Star Magazine above. Pure class. All you child advocates at GWOP must be so proud. Do you think CASA will give you a special award for your GWOP site? Because it is so apparent that you are only worried about the children. And where is the article that was supposed to be from a NATIONAL magazine? Hmmm…? Oh, wait, I see, you are calling Philly Mag a NATIONAL magazine. I see… Hmmmm…. Well, gee, I live in New York City, now at what store in my city can I buy this NATIONAL magazine? Hmmm….? Please don't tell me I can call and they will send me a copy. See, for all you dumb bunnies in PA, that is not a NATIONAL magazine.

  • ssss

    First, do you actually think people are going to believe anything you say? In your comment prior, you thought Jon's parents were married at the time of Jon's dad's death. That is completely not true. You are a moron. And the more you write, the dumber you sound. By the way, you think how proceeds are paid out in an estate are not tracked? B*ll shi*t. You have no idea what the h*ll you are talking about. EVERYTHING in an estate must be accounted for in a "Final Account" (an actual legal term) that must be approved by the probate judge and can be contested. If Jon got an inheritance from an estate, it could not be hidden. Period.

  • dddd

    You might be able to find Philly Mag at Barnes & Noble, crappy chains like that. But, I really don't know for sure. This is certainly not a national mag, though. That's crazy. People were expecting a lot more because of the hype at GWOP. I guess crazies on the net don't make for good copy at real publications.

  • SC

    I didn't say Jon's father & mother were married at the time of his death – they could still have an "and/or" account, moron….and just because Jon got $$$'s doesn't mean it was written down in an inheritance bequest. Of course, being the rube that you seem to be, I didn't think you'd understand. Now, go back and rev up the vibe while you look at Kate's picture

  • Proof

    Just wondering, Newsweek IS a NATIONAL PUBLICATION, isn't it?http://www.newsweek.com/id/187344?GT1=43002S'later Jon & Kate!

  • Anonymous

    Sc it's none of your business, why do you think you need to know every damn thing about them, go on back to GWoP and tell em' you are not their informatin mongler, you all are so sick and just plain ass stupid. NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, get it, oh yes I know you are concerned about the kids, Gezzzzzzzz pl that is so old. your nosy thats all and have nothing better to do with your time, BTW where is your kids at??? someone needs to call CPS on all you ppl

  • ssss

    Newsweek calls Jon and Kate BELOVED TV STARS!!!! Not exactly a slam you fools!

  • SC

    What's none of my business? That you got the vibe going while salivating over your autographed picture of Kate? Fool…!

  • SC

    oh – and as you've said this 2 or three times, it's terribly incorrect to say "where is your kids at?" Incorrect in several ways – but, again, I doubt you'd understand. I won't be so rude as to call you "plain ass stupid" as I'm sure you've surpassed the rung on that ladder….

  • Samantha

    I enjoyed reading this. It was great to have someone call out the pieces of the show that felt….off. It seems they are under a protective bubble from the media, and I am glad you walked through it.

  • meg

    GOD when will this end? You all sound like a bunch of babies.Can't you at least pretend to be grown-ups?Jon & Kate couldn't give a crap what you say and they shouldn't.GROW UP – GET A LIFE !!!!!!

  • Jane

    Jon is having an affair with a woman in my town…they were recently thrown out of a local bar for excessive public displays of affection. I know this is fact his mom lives here.

  • Anony

    I was both surprised and disappointed to see Kate with an obvious fake tan in a recent episode. The tan was ridiculously dark. So I beleive this article after seeing that.

  • Proof

    "I mean, how do the beloved reality stars Jon and Kate Gosselin pay for their eight kids? Remember, neither Jon nor Kate had a job when they brought their sextuplets home. And I bet that TV money helps out if you, like Discovery Health Channel stars the Duggar family, have 18 kids."————-Hey Ding Dong, the title of the story is Octomom HYPOCRISY and it links the 'beloved' Gosselins 'neither Jon nor Kate had a job…'They are linking the similarity of the Gosselins situation to the Octomom situation. Unfortunately you couldn't get beyond the word 'beloved'.

  • Anonymous

    SC as Meg pointed out "Get A Life" of your own, tend to your business "Grow Up" show your kids that you are worth of their praise, now leave the reast of us alone "to worship Kate" you are a stupid ass woman, BTW do your kids know you are playing "oerfect parent today?"

  • Anonymous

    SC just got me so upset, I was mis-spelling all my simple words, Like perfect parent and worthy, I'm just so upset boo hoo hoo, please SC don't talk so mean to me, awwwwwww

  • SS for the Witches @CPMC

    my LIST of people who can fuck themselves grows.

  • Aha

    So Mr. and Mrs. America will be announcing very shortly their 'legal' separation. Guess Kate doesn't like to share that cute hubby of her's.

  • mie

    I'm almost scared for those kids once the show ends. Once all of this dies out how will kate act. If she's this bad now and treats jon and the kids like crap. Once all the fringe benefits are gone, she's going to be one crazy mean bitch.

  • Anonymous

    okay sweetie don't count your chickens before they are hatched, that little piece of information came from where? another stupid magizine, The Star no less, now how could we not believe them? Oh Lordy Be, how rediculous, now you all can go on all the blogs and state it as "The Gospel Truth" HOW STUPID

  • CPMCofGreece

    I KNOW ALL!!! mwah mwah mwah ha ha ha ha This is going to be fabulous.

  • Sssssssssss

    Some hags like yourself don't really give one tiny little fuck what they look like. 325 pounds?

  • anonymous

    Wow, I bet you learned that word out behind the barn didn't you? along with some other things, I know you are so proud of that potty mouth, I bet no one can get with in 10 feet of you before they start smelling like a hog, Oh excuse me SS I'd rather be in a pig pen than be next to you and your filthy mouth, ewwwww yucky yuck.

  • Sssssssssss

    A sphincterssez what? Stick around girls. I wanna be alone.

  • Anonymous

    Well Jessica, I suppose you are very proud of yet another slander/hate board, I would think you would be crawling in your skin from embarrassment. After all this All reflects of what kind of person you are. I guess this is right up your alley way. How can you even sleep at night knowing you opened a can of worms for every one to argue/fight/ call names/ and use such fowl talk? I suppose you become so accustomed to this media hype that you just become hard and cold hearted HUH? because thats what this whole blog is, COLD HEARTED

  • Anonymous

    Why call Kelly an idiot? does the truth hurt that much, another article paraphrased by some one saying Jon said that, why is it every thing they say comes from someone hearing it or reading it on another blog? well lat me just tell you "IDIOT" because it's not true what so ever. 99% of the stuff you read is exactly how Jessica got her so called article, it's no more than opinions from hate bloggers, any one can get on her and say what ever they want, and you people are gullible enough to take it ,bait hook ,line and sinker, hope it taste good going down, just another can of worms gone bad. Now lets hear what else Jon had to say.

  • alison

    It's not Jessica's fault that idiots can use the internet. Anyway, that "can of worms" was bound to open sooner or later. Building your life on deceit and greed is like building your house on the sand. The Gosselins knew the day would come when their lies would be uncovered. After all, the way Kate quotes that bible you just KNOW she was waiting for the wrath of God at any moment. How many of the ten commandments have they broken by now? bahwahahahahahaha

  • alison

    Maybe some of you should take a crash course in reading comprehension. Jessica cited her sources. If you were under threat by Jon Gosselin and his goons, you'd remain anonymous, as well. Jon Gosselin is not a good person. Just wait, it will all come out about him. Have you ever wondered why Kate is such a bitch to him?

  • Kelly

    As a mother of multiples, I can personally attest to how hard it is. It is stressful and ANY help you can get is worthwhile. I don't agree with everything the Gosselins do, but they are a family. Both parents obviously live their children. How about writing about the love shown? But I guess putting people down is what's marketable. I however WILL continue to watch their show because I know how hard multiples are. And will NOT read Philly mag if this is the type of article used to sell the magazine. I'm dissappointed in this article and in those of you who feel the need to insult others this way. It's a shame, really.

  • anonymous

    Say What? yes she did, she added to the lie thats going on, yes I said lies, you all think this stuff is all true? well I got news for you that same God you said Kate is waiting on, well he is the one and the only one she has to answer to, and so will you and Jessica. Have the stuff or more that Jessica wrote in her opinion was opinions from other bloggers, she asked for them remember? now you all want to make it "FACT" are you crazy? this is just more gossip, just like the SRAR and N.E. Gossip,Lies and more of the same everyday, and you just add to it.

  • alison

    You wrote: But I guess putting people down is what's marketable. ********Ask Jon what's marketable. In one interview that idiot said his own children were *marketable.* I guess that's the love you were looking for.

  • J.J.

    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. they do show love and the kids love them, I do not agree with all that they do either, but I guarantee you, no one agreed with me 100% I'm sure. at least they are together and thats what these angry people are so upset about, that and the fact they are doing well. If J&K are christians then they know the devil only attacks those who are doing the right thing, he never attacks those who play in his play ground, so I'm confident that J&K know what they are doing, regardless who "DON'T LIKE IT"

  • Mel

    The real shame is that this family is living on donations coming from hard working people across the country, who attends church on a regular basis. It is this religious base that want to believe that the Gosselin family is pure with true morals and values. With all the money they get from TLC why can’t they (being honest religious people themselves) do these lectures for free as a way to “give back” to communities across the country that support them? In time, the truth will become knowledgably to everyone how demanding this couple really are. Sad fact to those that love them is that Kate & Jon’s values are dominated by materialistic things and yes people from their hometown do not want anything to do with them any more. They have completely taken everyone around them for granted, thus the reason why no immediate family members or friends are on “their” show. They have insulted everyone who has attempted to help them and now that they have their millions, they really could care less a

  • m

    They have insulted everyone who has attempted to help them and now that they have their millions, they really could care less about those who helped them in the past. Right now, it is all about them. That is the truth, plain and simple and it is just very sad…

  • SerenePrincessPoopieHeadofWyom

    Seriously some of the blogger names are laughable…

  • J.J.

    Crystal, didn't you know honey they do it because they worry about the c h i l d r e n? yeah the little children, they care about what happens to them, Aren't you glad that we do not know how they treat their own relatives? can you imagine how they act toward some one in their own family who mught be having a struggle? I guess thats what goodwill and love is all about to them, "when your brother/sister falls down, kick them in the teeth. Or is it because J&K have done well and better than most would do and they just can't handle it. any way good comment Thanks.

  • Dee

    If Jon has publically slandered his former boss, WHY hasn't he filed a defamation lawsuit? Further, state unemployment records are not public knowledge, so how did the "proof" come about about Jon allegedly doing a side job? In one breath the article says he was doing "side work" on company time, but in another Jon was supposedly bragging about never having to work again…doesn't make sense to me. Which one is it, really? It seems to me that there are quite a few things that have not been substantiated being said…

  • Lesli

    I strongly suspect many of the posts are coming from a small group of . . . crazies. (Sorry, Princess).

  • Lesli

    I think his former employer didn't sue because he was friends with Jon's parents. Probably didn't want to embarrass them. Sounds like a nice guy. In Kate's book (that Beth wrote and Kate lived) Kate said Jon was fired for "stealing time." There's a lot of situations where that would be the reason for termination. I actually think that unemployment records are available to the public. Almost every government record is available, if you use the right channels and follow government protocol. Their whole story is murky . . . seems like they gloss over so many details that are important and they just jump right into "oh poor pitiful me."

  • CollinsDingleberry

    I gotta go…..

  • Crystal

    Everyone who has contributed to this article or to the ignorant, judgemental and pathetic comments following the article really should get off their own soap boxes and get a life. Who are you to judge how someone lives their life? I'm sure none of you would accept gifts, money, a tv show to better your family right? more like yeah right! Everyone is sitting at their computers spewing out garbage about how horrible the family is and how horrible they treat their children and each other and it's ridiculous! The family are good people making the most out a wonderful situation they were presented with. If you don't like the show don't watch it! Plain and simple! Maybe you should all take a closer look at your own messed up lives and work on fixing those instead of getting on your soapboxes and judging others! Jealousy is a sickness people! Get well soon!

  • PrincessPoopieHeadofWyomissing

    "…a small group of individual crazies?" are you counting their multiple personalities as well? LOL

  • Orange_Is_The_New_Tan

    Has Kate been eating too many carrots?

  • alison

    I just hope they get all this sorted out. Publicity is not always your friend. And this sort of thing can only do harm to the family. Maybe it's karma? I don't know, but Jon and Kate Gosselin need to step forward and clear up all the speculation. Not their PR people, it needs to come from the Gosselins. After all, they posted a notice on their website that "nothing is true unless it comes from us." And that little blurb from Jon about not being perfect won't do it. He did that BEFORE the Star Mag's "revelation." All that did was make him look like a guilty fool who tried to cover his ass.

  • JonsEmasculatedLibido

    all you have to do is watch his show to know what kind of person he is…..*LOL* Yep – that's all you have to do………. ;)

  • Michelle

    I love that all the J&K defenders call all of the critics "jealous." That's hilarious!! There may be some people that would choose another life if they had the opportunity but I highly doubt the life of J&K would be the one they'd choose!

  • alison

    For all of the comments stating "yeah, I'd take all the free stuff, too, if it was offered," and "you would take it, too!" it is really frightful to think that there are so many people who would trade their family, trade their children's childhoods, their privacies if it meant they could live the lifestyle the Gosselins are flaunting. It makes me worry about the children of these posters who believe that. What's done is done; Jon and Kate cannot undo the damage and the Gosselin kids are in for a rough time of it. When I first started watching this show, I thought of it as an experiment. Take a perfectly good family and put them in a fishbowl and watch what happens. I thought the parents were atypical in choosing a life of leisure and luxury over their children's mental and emotional health. Now I see it's not that extraordinary. There are others among us who would take that same path. After the effects of this show are known to us, I wonder how many of you will still say that yo

  • M

    Hey Crystal,Seriously, you live in la la land? Some people who posted here DO know the Gosselins personally and have seen them in live action. NOT ON TV!!! They live in Berks County and see them on a regular basis. How hard is that for you to understand??? Do we need to speak in spanish, french, german??? What language will you understand that what we are saying is the frigging truth. Or are you just that plain stupid. So Crystal, keep watching the stupid show, send in money to them and go buy their ridiculous book. Keep supporting them because Berks Countians won't!!!

  • Melissa

    As a mom of multiples, I stopped relating when J&K left a house full of sick kids so Jon could get his free hair transplant. And then the new mini-mansion sealed the deal. This is a family so far removed from reality, there is no way they can come back and be a normal family. They'll never be able to go to a zoo or amusement park and not expect to get private tours or have restaurants close so they can enjoy a meal away from riff raff. I hope articles like this continue to appear and maybe TLC will open their eyes and do the right thing by getting this train wreck off of our TVs!

  • m

    Yeah, your right. I would take all the crap that the Gosselins are getting, but I WOULD NOT EXPECT IT. I wouldn't have turned my family and friends against me. I love my family and friends and I am grateful for the life I live. If having all that crap would turn me into Kate Gosselin, then I'd rather be poor and proud of my family and my family values!!!

  • Michelle

    I think "To Unrelateable" missed the whole point of the "Unrelateable" post. With all the special treatment and freebies the family gets, how does this help the children grow into responsible, productive members of society? They see two parents not working outside of the home and taking all they can get. What kind of example is this?

  • Anon:

    and Sesame Place is the only one you can re-call right? well there you have it, just as some of us thought, just looking for the bad/dirt, ofcourse you couldn't think of any thing good, not with all that cold hearted hate you have going on.

  • J.J.

    Oh I suppose you think J&K sit around and tell the kids they don't work any more and that every thing they get is free, do you really think that? because at their age why would any parent talk to them about finances? would you tell your 4 and 8 yr olds about your finances? because they would know what your talking about "RIGHT?" Geeezzzzz Maries

  • Laura

    I must confess that I am one of the thousands of viewers who sensed that something was amiss in that household. Just a few times of watching this show was all I could take. How truly SAD that these parents are subjecting their children to such living conditions! It's time for the father to get a REAL JOB and support his family. It's time for the mother to learn some genuine, loving parenting skills…actually both parents should!I suggest TLC find another show for this time slot. I'm not watching this one.

  • J.J.

    Since when did restaurants close down for the Gosselins, this is exactly what you all haters do, lie, and lie some more, they took their kids to restaurants with a lot of other people there, remember the Browns? sure you do, he was there with all his kids and no wife,J&K have been out to restaurants with others all around, But you would rather forget those incidents and just reflect on a time maybe just maybe they were alone, how about when they took Mady for her day out, tell me no one else was there. you are so full of hate you can not see the truth and it kills you all when people bring it to sight, they are human they make mistakes, so do you, hate to burst your bubble, but you are not perfect by any means.

  • Melissa

    If you recall the episode of featuring the trip to Sesame Place…they ate in a large establishment void of any people other than them and the crew.Sincerely, "full of hate"

  • Madeline

    You are a childish idiot. Anyone with half a brain can see that Jodi cares about the Gosselin children. When their own parents jetted off to California for new hair plugs for Jon, who was it that came to the Gosselins home with her own 4, sick children to stay with J&K's 8 sick children? And Jodi didn't make them lie on a hard laundry room floor so she wouldn't have to clean up after them. She didn't yell at them for "ruining their new comforter." Kate knew that Jodi was getting fan mail. Jon, on the show, said that he just deletes all of the fan mail for Jodi. What a nice guy! Kate knew that Jodi made her look like a crappy mother so Jodi had to go. Why don't you grow up, J.J. You sound like you're as sick in the head as Jon and Kate Gosselin.

  • caroline

    If all of you hate the Gosselins (jon and kate i hope non of you blame the kids) then why are you so intently interested in their every move, seriously im not a fan of the show, i personaly hate it and dont care what they do. But clearly you people do, i hate George Bush but i dont poke in his buisness to see how much his house was or whatever. I feel they are just a family if they didnt want to say on tv that he got fired do you really blame him? im just saying they clearly dont need money anymore so whatever. you guys are gossip people disgusted with celeberties. BUT THEY ARNT CELEBERTIES!!! stop wasting your time on them, they are soooo not worth it

  • PrincessPoopieHeadofWyomissing

    I think they went the way of Aunt Jodi and Beth? Gone and forgotten – discarded like an old bottle of Kate's self-tanner

  • alison

    And don't forget Jon! Kate never misses an opportunity to trash talk her husband! Lordy Bee! The fans are foaming at the mouth now. They know they can't deny this! LOL

  • J.J.

    Well it is too bad about Beth, that we don't see her any more, she was one classy lady,but you do not know why she is not on the show any more than the rest of us. as far as Jodi, she is a witch, a cry baby and a family wrecker, she was all about exploiting "Kates" kids as well as her own, until she found out there was no monetary value in it for her, now can you deny that? NO!! Jodi didn't love Kates kids as much as she loved the idea of being on nat'l t.v. and thinking she would come into some big $$$$ for it, and then she went crying to big sister, awwwww po, po, baby Jodi, got her wittle feewings huurt, po,baby, actually I'm no much of a lady to say what Jodi really is.

  • Nan

    After reading this and a few blogs mentioned here I am glad that the Goss family got German Shepards. Hopefully the dogs will protect the children from the type of "fan" posting such vile, hate-filled comments, who are seeking their new address. I don't agree with all this family has done but I don't think they should be crucified in such a manner because of their choices.

  • J.J.

    as far as growing up to be responsible/productive adults, what you wanna bet they will out do most of you on here, I don't think they will waste away talking about some show that causes them so much dis-gust as you say they cause you.did you ever think of that? ofcourse not you'd rather sit at your key board and call them names and hope/wish bad things on them, but I know "You do it all in the name of Love" I'm sure that kind of love they will be happy to do with out.

  • Melissa

    These kids won't always be 4 and 8. There doesn't have to be finances discussed. They will eventually figure out that mom and dad didn't hold jobs and got everything for free. These kids won't always be crated like veal with a camera on them. They will eventually see what their parents did and there will be resentment.

  • MelindaClown

    Some of us love our kids and would never consider humiliating them on national TV. Not even for a big house or a tummy tuck.

  • Madeline

    If YOU watched the show you'd know that it was Aaden who was on the couch sick and with the pan that Kate so lovingly held for him in front of the camera so we could all watch him throw up. Kate DID yell when she went upstairs and found Joel had thrown up on his comforter. When Jon walked in the door that evening, the first thing Kate said was, "Joel decided to throw up on his new comforter!" And Jon is the one who went into the laundry room and told Kate Joel was burning up with fever. He asked if she'd given him anything, and she dismissively said, "Yeah, I just did." Want to go another round?

  • Jen

    On Mady's special day they had lunch at Red Robin. While I don't know if they closed down or not or limited who could come in, they certainly altered the environment for filming because there was no ambient noise. Anyone who has been to Red Robin for lunch knows the place is loud as hell. So while they may not have closed the place down (maybe they did, who knows) they certainly altered the environment to suit filming regardless of other patrons if there were any.

  • kathy

    I'm not about to say that you people are crazy (evern though you are) you people hate the gosselins with no reason, first of all oyu dont know them! unless you know them you have no right to say you hate them and if you dont know them you really are lame cause you are trashing people that you dont know. seriously if you do hate them why waste your time tripping over every detail of their lives. you must be at that really thin line between hate in love huh? Im not about to say the gosselins are great people cause i dont know about them.. just like you.

  • anonymous

    Up for calling names huh? well thats what children do. Kate did not yell because he threw up on the comforter, she hated it (ofcourse you wouldn't have) but she did not yell at him, and he did not lay on a cold laundry room floor, she was right there with him, doing laundry, and cooking supper, it's noy like she was 40 miles away, My son laid on a blanket under a tree when he was sick, I had to hang clothes on the line, he is 42 yrs old and he is not scarred by it, what a concept. As far as the fan mail, there's another lie, J&K said thet delete the negative e=mails, never said they deleted the ones about Jodi, thats where stories get started, Jodi was not even mentined in that portion of the conversation, But you haters just can't accept that can you, wll you are wrong again!!nannna, nannna boo boo,

  • Madeline

    Because the Gosselins told people that they were destitute because Jon was unfairly fired from his job, they received a multitude of donations, mostly in the form of cash and gift cards. They were living pretty well off of the sympathy of people in their area. I think that's why people are following this real-life story to see where it ends up. It's just curiosity. I don't like the show either, can't stand to hear Kate's voice and I think Jon Gosselin is an extremely immature man who is the laughingstock of reality television right now, but I'll admit – I'm curious to see how it all plays out for them. Maybe they took a risk (with the show, like the tups) and lost. (Their words, not mine).

  • alison

    I just read on the Wernersville Topix board that Jon and Kate are getting a divorce, indeed. They have 4 more episodes to film before that, though. This poster said she was a local, and her IP was in Reading, PA. She wasn't being malicious, just answering questions. After watching Jon and Kate in the couch interviews recently, I'm leaning towards thinking this is all true. Did anyone else see the moving episode when Kate said the best part of her day was bossing the men around? And then that look that Jon gave her! OMG that made me cringe. He looked at her like she was a pile of sh!t. Oh well, it's sad for the kids, though. But at least they won't have to listen to Kate put down their dad any more.

  • J.J.

    Oh come on now Jen quit making light of some thing they did )shown for every one to see) there was plenty of noise in Red Robin while they were there. sounded just like it does when we atke the grand kids there, I was just there last week, in fact it was really quiet compared to other times I've been there, so just give em' a little credit okay? why is it so hard for you (espically moms ) to have a heart? My lord don't tell us that you think you are one of the "Perfect Mothers" on here.I can imagine if Kate watched you, she could find plenty to talk trash about. she is human, just like you, I'm sure you put your panties on just like she does. no, better, no worse…. so climb back to earth sweetie, your okay.

  • alison

    JJ wrote: can imagine if Kate watched you, she could find plenty to talk trash about. ****** Isn't that irony here? Kate trash talks all the time in front of millions of viewers, but yet you come here and defend her! She trash talked the former owners of the house, the dog breeder, the train guide, Jodi, the cleaning lady, AND her own kids. Mostly Mady, though. And the boys.

  • Deb

    Please know that GrandmafrmKansas from Imperfect Parent is loose on this blog. She is a nut and a Gosselin defender and lacks reading comprehension. You will not get anywhere with her, I recommend ignoring her.

  • Anonymous

    What Kate said dumbo was it was easier to clean up, but she didn't fault him for it like you are trying to "make believe" and if you watched instead of reading blogs (lies) she gave him medicine before Jon walked in, she also was very loving with him when he was throwing up in the pan, and in the same episode he went and laid on the couch, remember Alexis telling Hanny that he would "frow up on you hands"? as for Jodi she is the one who said it made her sick when they tgrew up,remember her turning her head away? well of course not "IDIOT" and FYI I am not a ( HE ) and what have they lost? not you , pitiful, Oh yes that is a " CLASSIC " thanks

  • Catherine

    Excellent article. There's more sordid info that we locals know, but people don't want their names mentioned. Someone needs to step in and protect those children from their greedy bio-parents.

  • PrincessPoopieHeadofWyomissing

    c'mon now Anonymous – you somehow skipped over the Brown family question and went right to slandering Aunt Jodi. Aunt Jodi's only "crime" was showing Kate as the narcissist bitch she is. Please point to one – just one – incident that proves that Jodi wanted to exploit Jon & Kate's kids. Jon can thank the Plug Fairy that Jodi was nice enough to keep the sick kids while he sucked up the freebie hair replacement. Too bad it wasn't a ball replacement. No offense – but are you mentally challenged???

  • Moms Against GWOP

    Here's the problem with Aunt Jodie: She was perfectly happy to be in the show and exploit the children, see Oprah (her favorite thing), etc, etc… Then she is no longer on the show and we must all save the children from the abuse/exploitation? That is laughable. Her sister says Jodie was there to "protect" the children. So, it was OK to exploit them as long as Jodie was there to sanction it? That is so self-centered and silly. For Jodie's sister to have a site condemning the TV show for exploiting children is the height of arrogance. Without Jodie there, it is now exploitation? Of course not.

  • Anonymous

    You really believe every thing these blogs say? ummm I'm not surprized at all, just because some one on a blog says that you think it's gospel, thats why there are so many lies going on, one person swears they know whats going on in their home and you all believe it, I bet if some one told you how many times a day Kate passes gas you'd believe that to wouldn't you? it's really sad that people fall for this stuff, and don't even care where it comes from, just as long as it's dirt and it's bad, how could you say some thing based on hear say from a blog no doubt? does that not bother you at all?

  • M

    Hey Kara – Go piss off!!! Posting things like that is just ignorance. If your head wasn't so far up your ass you could see how stupid your post is!!!

  • J.J.

    now how the hell do you know that conversation took place? before you say any thing about another subject, just please explain to me how you know Jodi said that and Kate replied that> because you have an ear the rest of us don't have. so please tell us,

  • Anonymous

    I did not mean to skip over the Brown family, if again you remember J&K said they only see them about once a year, so how do we know they haven't seen them? we don't (Like many other things we don't know)I didn't slander Jodi, I as in "I" told the truth, why do you only remember her watching the kids on the hair plug episode? she (according to her, Jodi)was having them every fri. morning. so she had her kids plus Kates kids with the camera people in tow, Many episodes at Jodi's house, and no dear I am not mental, I do know fact from lies/fiction/spectulation, Guess you didn't go far enough from the school yard to learn the difference did you? Now how many other incidents of Jodi would you like, she was after money and she exploited her kids as well.

  • Proof

    And another national publication, In Touch Weekly, has a cover story on 'Jon's Bombshell-He's talking divorce, staying at his mom's, flirting with college girls' http://www.intouchweekly.com/content/cover/img_cover_large.jpgAh Joel McHale called it 'Jon minus 9'!

  • Deb

    It is out there, do your own research.

  • Jared

    I *love* the number of comments on this article that are some variation of "I don't watch the show anymore because of how they're exploiting the kids." I think everyone needs to remember that if this is all true (and I don't necessarily think it is) and fame has corrupted Jon and Kate, everyone who watched the show is guilty for giving them that fame in the first place. So don't be so high and mighty, as we are share part of the blame. They couldn't exploit the kids without us.

  • J.J.

    Deb, what now? are you playing tricks? you silly wabbit,tricks are for kids not wabbits. now where did you get that? and you still can't answer where Jodi said that and Kate answered that, it did not come from the show did it? of course not. Next

  • J.J.

    Yes you are correct, as long as Jodi was exploiting her kids as well as Kates every one thought it was fine, but Jodi didn't get the money her sister thought she shoild get so she had to come up with some thing else, Remember how happy Jodi was about going to Oprah? oh yeah, "get my hair done, get my nails done" and she had to leave Kevin at home with the kids, but Kate is not suppose to do that, Yeah your right mom, these people just can't make up their minds, Good post.

  • Kara H.

    I travel through PA a lot to New York. One time, when I stopped to get gas, I asked the clerk how long until I hit the border. I knew I was close, but wasn't sure of the time. She responded, I swear to God, that she didn't know because she had never been out of the county. I thought she was joking. But, no, it was true. I almost said to her, "Well, get in the car! You are going to New York!" It was really sad. People in PA are very uneducated. This explains a lot about GWOP. I mean, calling J&K's new house a mansion? Please. A house in PA that is 6200 sq. ft. is by no means a "mansion". Those posters and managers at GWOP have no common sense. They are so poor and uneducated, it comes out in all their posts. They see someone who used to be on WIC and now has money and they are jealous. Plain and simple.

  • KaraIsHookedOnPhonics

    You never drove anywhere. You aren't 16 yet. It's evident by your words.

  • Deb

    Oh please! Jodi was kicked off the show and out of the Gosselins life. Jodi stated she would continue to watch the kids for no money and Kate said no thabnks we are hiring a paid sitter and can't use you any more. Oh and punish her for ONE trip to Oprah. The trip where Josi dressed the kids and did their hair, watch the footage! Kate is gone all of the time. Everything is always everone elses fault but NEVER Jon or Kates.

  • Anonymous

    and you believe what Joel Mchale says? you people are hard up for gossip is all I can say. you better go back to caroons or comic books, because what you are reading from these magizines are not as good as a good ole' comic book.

  • anonymous

    Kara, tell em' to kiss your butt, you don't have to leave, they are mad because you talked and told the truth about their "God" GWoP and they just can't handle it, they always go around stirring up trouble on other blogs, I think they get tired of the same ole' shit on their site (GWoP) it's has to be boring when you only have so many ppl talking the same old trash on the same ppl, so they venture out, stir up trouble, and then they leave, they know damn well they won't get this kind of traffic, because it's not allowed, so yeah just a bunch of old worn out horny bitches, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE

  • Deb

    I said I am not going to do your homework for you. I have done my own research and decision making, you do yours. Time for you to go home and worship at the Cult of Kate. I hope that the types of people she has worshipping her makes her proud. It really is scary.

  • Shelly

    This article is an absolute joke. The author was on GWOP fishing for a story. She never went to the fan sites. So, once again a fictional and gossip story was published with nothing but the ridiculous conclusions of the Gwoppers. Research your facts and get a clue Jessica Remo. You are a poor excuse for a writer. Julie(Aunt Jodi's sister)is nothing but a 5 minute fame seeker and a bitter jealous hag. Oh, by the way Jenny went to college. Once again, WHAT A JOKE!

  • PrincessPoopieHeadofWyomissing

    that Jon's been hittin' the bong again….nothin' like numbing yourself in order to tolerate Kate!

  • PrincessPoopieHeadofWyomissing

    you had lost your mind and needed some therapeutic spa time……

  • SC

    Girl – I have set up an eBay site to donate AA batteries for your vibe because you've been diddlin' way too much over your autographed picture of Kate…

  • David

    I guess as a society we hate to see people that we helped become something, and now able to afford better things in life. Is it abuse or are we all just jealous? I say leave them be its not for me to judge besides its entertaining TV and the its 10 less mouths in this economy that are not starving. We all have stepped over the boundary when it comes to money however we are not on display as is this family. Its a good show about a family. Nothing in life is perfect at least we can see this family and some how feel that life is good

  • PrincessPoopieHeadof Wyomissin

    you just weren't going to answer the question about the Browns until you were called on it. Seriously – put down the bedazzler and stop