Two Gay Bashing Suspects Plead Guilty, No Jail Time

UPDATE: Victims wanted the plea deal, prosecutor and friends say.

Defendants Kevin Harrigan, Kathryn Knott and Philip Williams

Defendants Kevin Harrigan, Kathryn Knott and Philip Williams

[Update 4:04 pm] Philly Mag’s Bryan Buttler reports:

Philadelphia District Attorney Seth Williams issued a statement this afternoon about the plea deal accepted by Harrigan and Williams.

“Today’s agreement is certainly about justice, but it is also about honoring the wishes of the victims to make sure they can continue to heal and gain closure,” he said. “Defendants Harrigan and Williams have accepted their agreement, one that honors the wishes of the victims of this case, and defendant Knott has chosen to proceed to trial. I hope that all of us can learn and grow from this horrible incident and be inspired by these two courageous victims, the solidarity of the LGBTQ community and their thousands of supporters and advocates.”

Also, Caryn Kunkle, who has become something of a quasi-spokeswoman for the victims, took to Facebook to provide further comment on today’s legal proceedings.

“Reporters and friends, please know that the victims are asking the public to keep in mind two things,” she wrote. “The plea deals were offered by the victims in an effort to kickstart some mercy and education between these diverse communities by setting a peaceful precedent. Two, please keep your speech hate free and stay positive regarding ‪#‎KathrynKnott‬ …legal reform and public support for positive change is the best re-Action we can have.”

[Original 12:10 pm] Two of the three suspects in the September 2014 attack on a gay couple in Philadelphia entered guilty pleas on Thursday morning, bringing their cases to a close after months of plea negotiations. A third suspect indicated she plans to go to trial.

Kevin Harrigan pleaded to one count each of simple assault and conspiracy. Philip Williams pleaded guilty to one count each of conspiracy and aggravated assault. They had been charged with two counts each of aggravated assault, conspiracy, simple assault, and reckless endangerment. Neither man will spend a day in jail.

The guilty plea was given in exchange for a sentence of probation, with Harrigan to serve three years probation and Williams to serve five. Both men must perform 200 hours of community service at an LGBT center, and they are banned from entering Center City during their probationary period.

But defendant Kathryn Knott turned down a plea deal on Thursday morning, and she intends to go to trial. She pleaded not guilty in 2014 and remains free on bail.

The attack occurred at the intersection of 16th and Chancellor streets in Center City on September 11, 2014. Knott, Harrigan and Williams were coming from dinner with friends at La Viola West when they encountered a gay couple, Zachary Hesse and Andrew Haught, on the street.

At a hearing in December, Hesse gave his account of what happened that night, testifying that the problems began when Harrigan asked him, “Is that your fucking boyfriend?” Hesse said that after Harrigan called him a “dirty fucking faggot,” things got physical.

According to Hesse’s testimony, Harrigan pushed him and he pushed back. Then, he says, he was surrounded, and someone held his arms behind his back. Hesse maintains that Harrigan hit him in the head and that Knott “smacked or hit” him in the head and called him a “fucking faggot.” Williams hit him as well, Hesse said on the stand.

But it was Hesse’s boyfriend who was injured the most. As a result of the attack, Haught was hospitalized with two broken cheekbones. His jaw was wired shut for close to two months.

After the assault, police released surveillance video depicting the attackers. A social media frenzy followed, sending the story and their images viral, and online sleuths helped police track down the suspects. Knott, Harrigan and Williams were arrested on September 24th, eleven days after the attack.

While Harrigan and Williams were said to have caused most of the injuries, Knott was the one who took the brunt of the outrage, thanks to homophobic rants found on her since-deleted Twitter feed.

Given the nature of the attack and the words that were allegedly used during the incident, the case became known as a gay bashing. Some called it a hate crime and pointed out that Pennsylvania does not have a hate crime statute. City Council passed a municipal hate crime bill in the month after the assault. Subsequent attempts to pass a state hate crime bill have stalled.

In April, Common Pleas Court Judge Frank Palumbo quashed a motion to dismiss some or all of the charges against them, allowing the case to proceed to trial.

After a series of continuances requested by the defense teams, some in the gay community expressed concern that the process was taking so long. But Assistant District Attorney Mike Barry told G Philly in September that the case was proceeding as expected.

“The frustrating part of this case is that it isn’t a normal case,” said Barry. “I’m talking to the victims at least two or three times a week. Frankly, all of that takes time. We’re going to do this until we feel completely comfortable with every detail at every level.”

 

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  • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

    And why should anyone be surprised at this? The day these three were arraigned I knew that white children with parents who have good incomes from the suburbs, with no criminal records would be getting alternative diversion (ARD) and/or a step from agg-assault to simple assault would be the likely outcome. Even with hate crime laws (which we do not have), the sentencing would still depend heavily on prosecution doing the extra work to prove mental state in order to score the sentencing bonus that hate crime sentencing booster laws provide. Areas that do have hate crime legislation on the books hardly ever exercise the option since most cases wind up in plea deals like this one, saving prosecutors time and effort in trying for conviction. While I’m not opposed to hate crime legislation, I find it frustrating that people who do support it believe it’s a fix against bigotry and hate. It isn’t and it has not stopped anti-LGBT violence in jurisdictions have have the sentencing boosters; usually because perpetrators could care less about hate crime laws before the violent act is committed.

    • pete

      How do you know their parents have good incomes? Because they are from the burbs as you mentioned?

      • PJ

        the sheriff knows things. he’s smart

        • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

          I know what they paid for their houses.

          • PJ

            you sound dangerously unstable. are you a stalker?

          • sfisc

            No, he probably just has access to Lexis Nexis. Of course, that’s probably not even necessary because looking up the sale price of a home takes like 30 seconds of your time once you have an address (which would be on their public court records). Using public documents is so stalker like.

          • PJ

            right, because normal people pay to use lexis nexis to research people from the news

          • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

            Look ma! The Internet! -> http://www.buckscountyboa.org/pt/Search/Disclaimer.aspx?FromUrl=../search/commonsearch.aspx?mode=owner

          • PJ

            you don’t have better things to do with your time than be a wannabe vigilante, even though the criminal justice process is running it’s course?

          • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

            Another troll defeated.

          • ToBeHonest

            You defeated yourself?

          • RedForeman

            He’s not just a vigilante. He also generalizes large groups of people and hates on them if they are different.

            http://www.philadelinquency.com/2015/10/08/fishtown-hipster-mecca-danger-broification/

          • PJ

            he appears to have some beef with “bros,” whoever they are

          • disqus_tixirHVby6

            You know, you definitely veer into stalker territory at times. I worry for you.

      • clarknt67

        High priced attorneys, not public defenders.

        • pete

          …and you saw their billing statements?

        • disqus_tixirHVby6

          The defendants were probably not eligible for public defenders. Attorneys are known to offer reasonable rates for actual payments, as opposed to being stiffed like many are by other defendants.

      • Kaibelf

        It was pretty widely reported that they came from well-to-do families, including the fact that the female’s father is a police chief.

      • Drjmvamp927

        One of the attorneys was Fortunanto Perri jr and he is “NOT CHEAP”

    • RedForeman

      So it’s better to put someone in a already packed prison system at the taxpayers expense with little chance of rehabilitation afterward? Ultimately becoming a drain on society as opposed to individuals that with a high probability of changing and being recirculated into society? There is a no win situation with this case.

      • clarknt67

        The system wouldn’t have burst had they gotten 30 days. They could have let out some poor black kid who’s doing time for smoking a joint, to make room.

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        • RedForeman

          Smoking a joint and being caught has been decriminalized for well over a year now. That argument holds no weight.

      • Randall Young

        It sure is better, Red. They’re going to put others in jail at the taxpayers’ expense. Can’t think of three who deserve it more than these punks. And quite frankly, who cares if they’re rehabilitated or recirculated into society? They should have thought about that before they started messing with two innocent people. Maybe you should have your jaw broken and wired shut for two months. Maybe you’d feel different. Save your liberal attitude for the next democratic debate, D-bag!
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        • RedForeman

          What an enlightened way of thinking.

      • Bad to the Bone

        It’s about setting a precedent of zero tolerance for this kind of thing, you stupid redneck.

        • RedForeman

          The level of your intelligence is very transparent when making online assumptions of someone you have zero knowledge about. #Sad

        • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

          Zero tolerance is a foolish argument and has been taken too far.

          Or do you not remember “zero tolerance” that landed a kid in jail for making a clock?

          • Joseph Miceli

            Yeah, right. Zero tolerance is SO foolish when it comes to gay bashing, but let a black kid smart mouth a cop….

          • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

            That makes no sense.

          • Joseph Miceli

            To you. I think anyone with any critical faculties can figure it out. Apologists for gay bashers have a hard time with it.

          • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

            Being gay, and having been attacked, I think I probably have a better level of comprehension than you of the situation.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Since I am gay and I’ve been attacked, you can step off the high horse and stop patronizing.

          • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

            That’s good to know. So you’ve been attacked and would want to have them hanged and quartered. I would want them to learn from the incident and not destroy the rest of their lives because of it. The guys it happened to thought the same. Their prerogative.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Thank you for putting words in my mouth and thank you for being such a Better person than me. Now, piss off and have a good day.

          • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

            You’re welcome, and you too!

          • Smith Hope

            Well change,its wrong anyway ,and your butt will feel better lol

          • Joseph Miceli

            What an ignorant little guttersnipe. I hope all your kids end up gay. Have a nice day!

          • Smith Hope

            Well your people owe it to be nice to us!! No I’m not racist. But after billions of us was killed and they were committing Genocide for centuries against My people,don’t u think we get some kind of break? It’s.only right. If they didn’t kill our dad’s and separated our families and putting a law out against us whipping them when they’re wrong ,so they racist whites ( not all) could commit more genocide against my people because they r unruly because they put laws against home training, u wouldnt have to worry about our people hating whites!! I don’t hate whites but about 70% of my people do because of what they continue to do!!

          • Joseph Miceli

            You may not be racist, but when it comes to reading comprehension you really do fail. Oh, and you are a homophobe as your later comment revealed.

    • disqus_tixirHVby6

      These aren’t the sort of people who will generally be on a revolving door to prison. This is most likely a one-off. Also, they did not and would never be eligible for ARD. Also, just because they come from the suburbs (not to be confused with the Main Line suburbs) does not make them well off. They are working middle class people, all of them. I’ve no doubt that the legal costs have strained the families. The plea deal is not an awful one.

      • bem

        When someone does something like this, it is very rarely a one-off. Getting away with it this time (mind you, the only time they were caught in the act) will likely embolden them in future anti-social behavior.

      • Neil M

        Won’t something think of the gay-bashers!

    • MJ

      Nothing YOU can do about it, silly hat, so…time to hush up.

    • Vieux Pays

      The victims did not wish to undergo the ordeal of a trial and testify. That explains in part why the prosecution agreed to this deal.

    • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

      The victims requested no jail time. I’m not sure why all of the outrage from people who’ve no part in the case.

      Its called forgiveness.

      • Joseph Miceli

        So if someone beats up your Mom and she has her jaw wired shut for two months, you’d be all Jesus-y?
        Sure you would!

        • http://danetidwell.com Dane Tidwell

          This isn’t my decision, nor is it yours. It is between the victims and their assailants.

          • Joseph Miceli

            Yes. No one should ever have an opinion on anything that doesn’t directly involve them. I expect that you will remain doctrinarily consistent by never commenting on a blog ever again.

    • Smith Hope

      Well lgbt is wrong so y don’t they change and they don’t have to worry about!! We have little children seeing faggots and Lesbians kiss and its very disgusting!! It’s nasty and wrong ,an abomination in the eyes of God!! And to think they compare themselves to blacks!! We had to struggle to be treated like humans,we didn’t not choose our color but homosexuality is a choice And they are fighting To make us accept their provision And they are hanging around our children there in a children’s school That’s why we attack them!! They are a bunch of pagans who wants to be accepted By normal people with morals They are very immoral and what they do behind closed doors is disgusting!! They do not even realizeThat they are bringing demonic spirits into this worldWho is bent on destroying our childrenAnd us!! We are not going to shut upAnd they will continue to get attacked!! I don’t attack them I am NOT Talking about me But others Who believe what I believe in Which is the truth!!

      • LifelongAstorian

        What an ignorant low-life scumbag you are…all too typical of “yo communeetay”. Given all that YOUR group does to destroy the quality of life in Philadelphia and so many other American cities, you really have some nerve attacking a far more civilized law-abiding group who harms NO ONE!

  • PJ

    seems like a fair outcome. knott is really rolling the dice taking her case to trial

    • CJAS

      Guilty of conspiracy and aggravated assault, but no jail seems to opposite of fair.

      • PJ

        for a simple fistfight involving two guys and a girl versus two guys?

        • UD b impressed

          Were you there? Because from my point of view, this was a large group versus a gay couple. Only three were indicted, but that doesn’t mean the others did not participate- at least not verbally. Slur words were thrown around and the couple’s relationship was ridiculed just for being gay. That sounds far from simple. But what do I know. I don’t have inside information like you do.

          • ToBeHonest

            It seems like two groups got into a verbal argument, which progressed into a physical argument. That sometimes happens among idiots when alcohol is involved. If the DA, who has heard more evidence than anyone here, believed it was the same slam dunk case you seem to think it is, they would never offer no jail time. In fact they would probably push for trial, as it is a nationally recognized story, and winning the case would look great for their resume.

        • Modified

          It wasnt just a basic simple fistfight. In most other states itd be considered a hate crime and they were ganged up on. Doesnt matter if one of the three was female. They were jumped because they were gay. Not because they wronged or attacked their attackers sometime before. These three dipshits attacked two innocent strangers for being gay.
          No jail time doesnt seem fair whatsoever when thats taken into account. There would be jail time if it were in another state with hate crime laws or if it were against someone due to race.

        • Kaibelf

          A simple fistfight where only two people were even hurt at all, and the trio of attackers ran off and had to be smoked out by the public. That means they KNOW they did something wrong and ran away like the cowards they are. Knott is complete trash and I hope her life is terrible from now on, because she frankly is the scum of the earth.

    • clarknt67

      Not really, Knott’s free to cry on the stand and say it was all Harrigan and Williams. She’ll walk.

  • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

    Further, I had posted on Philadelinquency the full names and home addresses of the three accused (now two guilty). I got a lot of negative feedback from a LOT of people over it. In a gesture of dark humorous goodwill I sent a delicious and quite expensive ($70!) fruitcake to the family of Katheryn Knott as a token of my sympathy for the scrutiny she must be facing with a public outraged by her behavior and her clear evidence on social media of blasé attitudes towards gays and lesbians.

    People were more upset over me ordering an Internet confection than they were with one of the two assaulted men being sent to hospital and having his jaw wired shut for a month.

    Critics were quick to point out that guilt/innocence wasn’t settled with these three and that “outing” them was premature and would incite violence.

    To date, the lives of Kevin Harrigan, Kathryn Knott and Philip Williams have never been remotely threatened, much less have they spent any significant span of time in jail. A decade from now after this incident has long faded from the public mind, these three will have a computer record haunting them around and might encounter some difficulty finding an employer who is bad at Google.

    At least for a brief moment I do know the friends of some of these three families were absolutely terrified that I had posted their addresses on Philadelinquency, which I obtained from the Philadelphia Police blotter and Bucks County tax records.

    At least for a brief tiny little moment the critics who were upset with me and were happy to embrace these bigots’ actions were afraid. They should be.

    See, I had sent out fruitcakes because I knew in advance that there wouldn’t really be any possible justice here. If you are attacked as a LGBT person in Philadelphia you really only have two options: flee or defend yourself. Your attackers may only see long prison sentences if you die. If you survive, your attacker(s) are likely going to see sentencing outcomes like this one is sure to turn out. If you defend yourself with whatever means necessary you might face redistributive prosecution, but at least you will be alive. It’s better to be alive and swirling through the criminal courts than to be dead.

    This is why I prefer to be armed. The deaths that have occurred and from a beating I witnessed has cemented my view that defense is a primary option for me when faced with bodily injury or death because of who I am. I am not alone in this view. There are many other LGBT individuals who have resigned, most of them reluctantly, to this conclusion.

    I will not be beaten and left for dead with the last words I ever hear being gay slurs hurled at me. Where I cannot carry a gun I carry chemicals. Where I cannot carry either, I limit my time on the street. Violent bigots are just one additional threat on top of another heap of people who are willing to assault and murder for such little gain that active defense is still necessary.

    Matthew Shepard had to become a martyr for our society to recognize that attacking LGBT people solely because of who they are is morally reprehensible. We do not need any more martyrs. What we need is less tolerance of this really foul behavior.

    The incredulity I witnessed from people stretching their spineless backs trying to justify and dismiss the attack on Chancellor Street is a sure sign that society is still broken and LGBT people still live in danger which can come at any time. Even if we manage to secure hate crime laws, which there is opposition in Harrisburg, it still doesn’t stop the attacks.

    A gun will.

    • PJ

      how many other people have you stalked? do you have a history of harming animals?

    • ToBeHonest

      Dude, you need some help. You dont need to stalk people and write a thesis on the outcome of a fistfight

    • pete

      You are a whacko. Plain and simple.

      • http://www.philadelinquency.com/ SheriffPHL

        My Care-meter didn’t even register a blip.

        • pete

          Would not expect it to.

    • John Braddock

      Please keep this up. Justice needs to be served one way or another. The bigots WILL lose eventually, the tide is turning. And who in God’s name thinks this was just a fistfight? These poor guys were broken for one reason and one only. I just hope I see this kind of thing one night and can then justifiably beat some of these types of aholes to a pulp to teach them a lesson.

      • ToBeHonest

        Whose sense of justice? Yours? SheriffPHL?

    • http://shortbus.org stampedes

      props to you. pretty clear the people below saying “chill out” aren’t the ones that justice turns a blind eye to. pretty easy to say “stop complaining” when you’re not the one on the line.

  • No Sassin’

    Regardless of whether it was a hate crime or not, convictions for violent crimes should generally result in prison time. Need room? Let out some of the perps from victimless, non-violent crimes (e.g., drug dealing between willing parties).

    • Fablio 68

      drug dealing is victimless and non violent? Where do you think many get the money to buy/deal?????

      • No Sassin’

        Drug dealing is often associated with other, sometimes violent crimes. But you can only prosecute and punish for the crimes proven beyond a reasonable doubt. (You do agree with the Constitution, don’t you? Due process and all that jazz?)

        • Joseph Miceli

          Yes, the horrible violence!
          First the dealer takes a road trip to Colorado. He loads up his trunk. He drives to Texas and sells it.

          We need to stop this violence!!!!

      • Randall Young

        It’s called assault, Flabio, violent assault against two innocent people. Drug dealing may have its peripheral victims, but you’re a fool if you try to compare the crimes.

  • David Rudenstein

    Mike Barry is a great prosecutor and a friend to victims.Maybe the case would be hard to prove.Maybe there was an element of self defense.Unless u r in court and have a file, u don’t know all the facts.Having said this, people should just let others live their lives.

  • Juicebox

    It sounds like a verbal argument that proceeded a fight that the victims were involved in but lost. The deals seem fair to me.

    • Norman Dostal

      cause youre a big fat bigot? cool dat

      • Juicebox

        There’s no hate crime legislation here. Not even sure if it would apply here if there was. They were not beat up because they were gay. There was an altercation that they participated in and they lost.

        • Modified

          Are you seriously that big of an idiot or are you that big of a bigot that youre trying to ignore what happened before they attacked the couple? They WERE attacked because they were gay. First verbally and then physically. They lost because they were attacked and ganged up on by three people for being ‘faggots’.

          • Juicebox

            Take it up with the prosecutors if you know more than what’s publicly been discussed. Otherwise it sounds like a simple assault case, basically a drunk fight in Center City. It happens, I personally steer clear of 15th Street and large group of dbag looking “bros”.

          • ProfessorThisCentury

            The details the person you responded to refers to were released in previous articles here and on other web sites. This was a gay bashing.

            If you are steering clear of 15th st between Locust and Walnut, you have no idea where you are in the city.

          • Juicebox

            15 street is home to Fox and the Hound, Applebees, Howl at the Moon and other crap bars that belong in the suburbs. They attract bros and their hos SLAMMING Coors Lite cans and acting like morons.

          • MJ

            as if the rest of Philadelphia is so hip and cool ? LOL.

          • ProfessorThisCentury

            You are correct but thus crime happened on 16th

        • pete

          Had a reply for your completely incorrect assertion which included a quote from the article above. In that article was a bad word. It was ok for the article, but not 5 inches lower on this board.

          What gives moderator??

  • kevgret

    This is why I stay out of the city…. no reason to put yourself into this situation. The city is sending the same message as well by letting these thugs off so lightly.

  • Roland

    Did the court bother to figure out if there is any LGBT community center who would want to have these guys around? How does that actually work? I’m really curious if the William Way Community Center has ever taken anyone under these conditions and what happened.

    • clarknt67

      I had the same thought. Whose idea was that? Do vulnerable gay kids really need to see these two guys there?

      • Drjmvamp927

        Yes they do, they could stare at them all day, undress the str8 boys with their eyes,wishing they str8’s would ravage them.

        • Justthetruth

          Who want want to do that. Just for the record – maybe they’re just bad pictures but the two guys and that Knott chick are the three homeliest-as-blue-mud suburban young white people I’ve seen in a long time.

          • Drjmvamp927

            I’ld still bang them, the 2 guys are OK lookin’, but I always loved “banging
            OK-lookin’ drunkin str8 guys”. Espically when I can watch their eyes,and I can tell they LOVE IT!!

    • Joseph Miceli

      Let’s hope these two jerks aren’t manning the teen suicide prevention hot line.

  • JA_199

    Break a man’s jaw and no prison time??

    • ToBeHonest

      Means more than likely it was a mutual fight

      • Judas Peckerwood

        Nice try!

        • ToBeHonest

          If the accusors story was 100% true, and they were just walking by doing nothing, then there would defintiely be jail time.
          if the defendents story is somewhat true, that the couple either slapped one of the girls, or threw a cigarette at her or whatever, then you could see why there would just be probation.
          So guess which side was probably true.

    • disqus_tixirHVby6

      There are terms in the criminal justice system for winners of fights and losers of fights–defendants and victims.

  • sfisc

    I love how the comments on this article are mostly about directing outrage at another commenter rather than directing outrage at the brutal, violent beating of two completely innocent human beings. Maybe you don’t have to take your outrage to SheriffPHLs level, but he’s not wrong to be outraged, you are wrong to NOT be outraged.

    • ToBeHonest

      If they were completely innocent, the DA wouldnt have offered a settlement that includes no jail time on a slam dunk case that would have boosted their career.

    • mintap

      I love how this comment is directing outrage at the other comments on this article instead of the brutal, violent beating of two completely innocent human beings.

  • Lane

    The good news is they pleaded guilty so that will be on their record. Sorry to bring the race card up, but if they were black assailants I think they would of received jail time. Since I live in center city I know to not respond to idiots who make derogatory comments. It’s best to keep on moving than risk going to hospital and endure years of legal crap for this outcome.

    • RedForeman

      City of Brotherly Beatings

  • clarknt67

    Except of course the victims will now STILL have to testify in Knott’s trial. The DA failed to secure jail and failed to spare the victims the trauma a trial. (BTW, who thinks it a good idea to put two violent homophobes to work at the LGBT center? Just yikes.)

    • mintap

      Maybe the goal is to convert them, or re-educate them in some way?

  • Johnjon

    I love how the two boys look like they’ve been crying, the girl………… she’s just buzzed.

  • MJ

    I don’t really know what happened, and I do feel bad for the victims if ….they really are the victims here. I’m not sure these defendents should escape without doing time, but…..if it’s driving the vicious GPhilly blogger bunch up the wall, I can at least take solace in that.

  • Kaibelf

    If someone hurt my boyfriend and left him with a wired jaw, they would be on the receiving end of a painful life of lawsuits, and there’s no way on Earth I would have let them go a single day without being reminded of how angry I would be.

    • ToBeHonest

      Start sommething you cant finish, then sue the people who won the fight? I guess thats the American civil court system these days

  • Don Jenkinson

    Admire the girl for not backing down — apparently freedom of speech doesn’t exist anymore.

    • http://shortbus.org stampedes

      haha you’re human garbage

      • Don Jenkinson

        Haha Jesus loves me…. Burn in hell loser

        • BTTB

          Jesus loves to bang that toothless mouth of yours with his holy peniz. LOL!

  • Deo

    I said from day one they would not spend a day in jail let alone the years people were saying. The girl walks even more scot free as she didn’t lay a hand on either of the gaybirds!

  • Culture Club Warrior

    Disappointed that they got off so easy, but can’t really argue if it’s what the victims wanted. Curious about why the third defendant is opting to go to trial.

  • xminustdc

    “The attack occurred at the intersection of 16th and Chancellor streets in Center City on September 11, 2014 […] Knott, Harrigan and Williams were arrested on September 24th, eleven days after the attack.” #Math

  • Smith Hope

    We r tiered of homosexuals confusing our children and oppressing Christians for not supporting their filthy way of life!!

    • BTTB

      Funny, that’s exactly how I feel about blacks. LOL!

  • Blunt Force Drama

    Great, so now people will realize they can beat up gay people and not do any time for the crime. Do you really think the type of person that violently attacks people for being gay will care about this “peaceful precedent?” How about setting a precedent that says you can’t break someone’s face for being gay and walk away from it without jail time? Maybe the victims feel forgiveness, but that’s not going to help someone else that gets hurt or killed because the assailant knows the last group of gay-bashing thugs got off easy.

  • mintap

    assault = assault (no matter the flavor of the internal “hate”.)

    conspiracy = conspiracy (no matter the flavor of the internal “hate”).

    reckless endangerment = reckless endangerment (no matter the flavor of the internal “hate”).

  • mintap

    Should they force atheists (who commit assault) to serve at churches?

    Maybe the goal would be to covert them during their 200 hours there. Is that a valid part of a plea deal?

    • Tom

      If an Atheist beat the snot out of a Christian specifically just for being a Christian I wouldn’t be opposed to it as far as the spirit of it, so to speak. However, you choose your religion not your orientation, unless you want to open that can of worms and/or nonsense, and requiring someone to work at a specific religious institution would endorse that church, and violate separation of church and state principles. On a personal note though, if an Atheist hurt someone physically just for being religious, then yeah, I’d be okay with them at least attending a multi-faith event and doing work there to demonstrate a commitment to tolerance and acceptance of others who are different than you.
      – an Atheist

      • mintap

        So the equivalent of multi-faith would be… what?… community service that supports both traditional marriage agendas and LGBT agendas?

        The question is why require them to support/endorse a specific political agenda? Is that common in plea deals?

        Or are we to assume that the LGBT center has no political agenda?

    • Eric the Red

      I’m guessing the 200 hours of community service isn’t in hopes that Kevin & Phillip will covert to gays.

      • mintap

        No, not convert regarding self-identified orientations, but support a certain political agenda.

        • Eric the Red

          Not sure where politics come into this. Do you know the assailants political affiliations?

          • mintap

            I am simply assuming that they are not politically supportive of the LGBT agenda, and I’m also assuming an LGBT center would be.

          • Eric the Red

            A more likely assumption is that the assailants were repressing their sexual confusion, thus causing them anger and frustration, and that made them lash out.

          • mintap

            What is the science behind that kind of theory?

          • Eric the Red

            Seriously? There have been numerous studies pertaining to homophobia, latent homosexuality and aggression. It’s a well know theory mini tap.

  • the criddler

    and it only took one comment for the reddit style pissing battle to begin. comment sections should not exist.

  • Justthetruth

    Having been hit in the back with a baseball bat in the parking lot of a bar in New Hope in the summer of 1989, I would have raised holy hell at the trial if the perpetrators had been found. While the victims here are entitled to feel what they feel, I hope they change their minds and at that upcoming trial they DO raise holy hell.

  • Smith Hope

    Bttb the difference between u and I is I’m right and u r wrong as two less shoes. Being black isn’t wrong but homosexuality is horribly wrong,u should be ashamed of yourselves, y’all ain’t nothing but a bunch of perverted pagans !!