Understanding the Chip Kelly Move

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and Chip Kelly during happier times. Photo | Jeff Fusco

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and Chip Kelly during happier times. Photo | Jeff Fusco

Here’s what we know about Jeffrey Lurie‘s decision to part ways with Chip Kelly:

When did Chip find out?

Tuesday early evening. Kelly ran the day’s practices as scheduled, meaning Lurie did not inform Kelly of his decision until later in the day. The Eagles announced that they released the head coach a short time later, a little after 7 p.m.

How did it go down?

The meeting between Lurie and Kelly (obviously) did not go well. Sal Paolantonio reports that Lurie proposed a new set-up where Kelly would lose control of personnel. When Kelly balked at that idea, Lurie decided to pull the plug, per Sal Pal.

Asked if he’d be OK having his power taken away earlier this week, Kelly responded:

“The owner decides whatever he wants to decide. It’s his team. He can do whatever he wants. It’s always been that way.”

Outside of a potential refusal to go along with a new power structure, there was no “signature moment” or blow-up that pushed this thing over the edge from our understanding. This was something Lurie had been building up to for weeks.

Why now?

Our sense is that the Eagles, once it was determined that it wasn’t going to work out with Kelly, wanted to get a jump on the process of finding a new coach as soon as possible. In-demand coaches can get plucked off the market quickly, and they wanted to make sure they were in position to land a desirable target.

Who might those targets be?

Some of the hot names include New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton, Cincinnati offensive coordinator Hue Jackson, Bears offensive coordinator Adam Gase and Carolina defensive coordinator Sean McDermott.

McDermott was described to me as  “prize student” of the late Jim Johnson and, as a La Salle College High School grad and former DC for the Eagles, is certainly familiar with this organization and this city. He apparently has a good relationship with Lurie and I wouldn’t be surprised if he at least gets a look.

What does the new front office set-up look like?

With Kelly and Ed Marynowitz relieved of their duties, former Bills GM Tom Donahoe assumes the role of Senior Director of Player Personnel. Donahoe has been a senior advisor for the Eagles since 2012 but apparently was not fully embraced by Kelly as Lurie hoped he would be. Now he moves into a more prominent position.

The same can be said for Howie Roseman. Jeff McLane reports that Roseman will return to heading the personnel department, and the intel we’ve been getting similarly suggests that he’ll be back in the “catbird seat.”

How did it come to this?

Lurie does not take a move like this lightly and examined it from every angle before deciding that the best course of action was to move on from Kelly. It is fair to say that the former Oregon head coach did not endear himself to many inside NovaCare. Key veterans had issues with his methodologies and, as evidenced by several ex-Eagles’ comments on their way out the door, there was at a minimum a disconnect between the head coach and some of his pupils.

Similarly, he did not build relationships with many others in the building and was viewed in some corners as difficult to deal with with.

All of this was generally overlooked when the team was winning, but not as much once things started going south.

Lurie, who was strong-armed by Kelly last offseason when the head coach made a play to assume full personnel control and overhaul the owner’s preferred power structure, ultimately decided that the chances of a turnaround next season weren’t higher than the odds of another down year, so he chose to act now.

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  • NONEofMYbusiness

    Hue Jackson or Mcdermott for HC !!!

  • Amar, Winter is coming

    One think I don’t understand, Lurie went on record to say he understood the risks associated with giving personnel control to Chip. And that the team, instead of going from good to great, could also go from good to mediocre.
    And now when the team is going to mediocre, he just bailed on Chip.
    Looks more like Lurie won a pissing contest.

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      It is obvious to everyone but Chip that GM Chip was a horrible idea.

      Chip’s ego got him fired. It sounds like Lurie intended for Chip to remain as HC but Chip wasn’t giving up the crown.

      • glngarryglnross

        probably he would turn out bad as GM. But I dont know how anyone can get a fair assessment of the teams outlook after 1 season. Especially without a settled QB. Its obvious that kelly thought they needed a QB and took a shot that didnt work out very well. If he thought that would get him fired he might have stuck with what he had and limped along w 8-10 wins a yr.

        • Mr. Magee

          Dude, sorry, but your comment(s) indicate you just don’t get it. You can still be a fan of Chip, he just won’t be coach of the Eagles.

        • Amar, Winter is coming

          You’re reaching…

      • Honest_T

        Chip never wanted GM powers, but our personnel dept. was terrible. That is why free agency has been so important to the Eagles for the last decade. Now Howie’s is back, great!

        • Eagles1018 is packing it in

          I’m not saying Howie was great at his job but I kept hearing he was responsible for the 2012 draft that got us Cox, Kendricks, Boykin, Foles and at the time an awesome Bryce Brown.

          • Blaqjaq

            Marcus Smith. Howies pick. enough said

          • Come on.

          • Mr. Magee

            Did Chip tell you to say that?

          • Amar, Winter is coming

            Never proved.

          • Blaqjaq

            I know everyone wants to crap on Chip now, and he deserves much of the criticism. But reinstating Howie as head of personnel is a huge mistake. I just hope that
            Donahue makes the decisions and Howie rubber stamps them.

        • Amar, Winter is coming

          Howie is not the best at drafting talent, agree.
          However, he was excellent in evaluating FAs. He got us Barwin, Demeco, Malcolm Jenkins, Sproles, Donnie Jones….some of the better FA finds in the past few years.

      • Amar, Winter is coming

        I agree, Chip as HC was good. Still had a long way to go, but overall Good.
        The GM thing just put all his eggs in one basket

      • All In Eagles

        or it was his way out. He clearly knows that he burned every possible bridge, his selected players can’t execute. If he puts up a front of it’s all or nothing then it’s easy for him to get fired while still acting interested.

    • ohitsdom

      Understanding the risks does not mean there are no consequences when things go bad.

      • Amar, Winter is coming

        I highly doubt the owner agreed to be accessory only to the success of the moves and not the failure. Giving that kindof power does not absolve Lurie from the responsibility.
        Anyway, I just thought it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to give Chip 1 more year.
        However, the chances of his success were very low and we better rebuild now than later.

        • ohitsdom

          Agreed, I thought next year had potential. But I’ve said that before…

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        Yup. And the boss is never wrong. The more I think about it the more I think Chip knew this was coming. Things like “this is the owners team he can do what he wants…” is kinda like a giveaway now. He knew something was brewing

  • bumpassesdogs

    Gotta hope the saints fire PAyton….. then hopefully Lurie can somehow convince him to come here. However, getting Payton to work with someone like Roseman handling his personnel would NOT be an easy sell

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      For some reason, Payton getting fired makes no sense to me. That seems like a long-shot plan.

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        There have been rumors floating around all season

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          If the Saints fire him, they’re morons. That’s all.

          • Eagles1018 is packing it in

            Here’s to wishing they’re morons….

          • Eagles1018 is packing it in

            Love the name change btw

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            Seemed apropos.

          • Mr. Magee

            Might be best for both parties

      • bumpassesdogs

        we can always hope…. but even if Payton is fired, I doubt he would be willing to walk into this mess Lurie and Howie have created

    • Byter

      Remember, Payton moved to Dallas a few years ago. If he does shake free, expect Dallas to can Garrett and hire Payton.

      • Truthsayer

        Huh? Jerruh loves his yes man Garrett. No chance that will change.

        • Johnny Domino

          If he could get Payton he’d demote Garret to glasses-wiper in a minute.

          • Truthsayer

            Incorrect. He wants a boot licker. Peyton does not do that.

    • KAO

      Payton would never come to Philly…. No coach with real success would at this point. Look what Chip just went through with the media and the owner. “Hey youre in charge of everything now. Oh wait nm youre not cuz the year didnt go well. Oh you dont like that as I expected well youre fired now” lol

      • Klep: squirrel-less

        I respect what Lurie did. He had to make a change, from his perspective, and he made it.

        I doubt this decision was made in just a day, and I doubt it was an easy one.

        There is always way more going on than what we hear , and with so much junk either being speculated on or just outright made up by the media, we can’t be sure of what story is made with truth in mind, and what story is made up with page clicks in mind.

      • bumpassesdogs

        you’re probably right…. who would want to work under Roseman the weasel?

  • Andy

    And Billy Davis is still on the payroll? Dead man walking…

    • glngarryglnross

      Him and the DL line coach. Im guessing they both get axed after the NYG game.

      • ohitsdom

        Azz?! I get that he was Chip’s guy (and Chip will want him at his next stop), but he’s a fantastic DL coach. Line has played great. But next guy may not want a 2 gap, so…

        • glngarryglnross

          I guess we have diff definintions of great. I’d settle on the term mediocre. We cant sustain a pass rush and outside of Cox dont really clog anything up run wise.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            Pass rush was an OLB issue… that wasn’t on Azz

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Azzinaro is a great coach. Losing him would be a big loss.

    • All In Eagles

      is Marty M available for the HC job? Seems fitting.

  • ohitsdom

    It’s early, but I like Hue. Did a good job in Oakland, and that’s with no resources and no city appeal. Just wasn’t given much of a chance. He will do well with the support of an owner like Lurie. He’s doing a great job in Cincy, love to see an offense that maximizes where the players’ strengths are.

    Also, another point in firing Chip before the last game: draft position. They’re probably more likely to lose now…

    • Amar, Winter is coming

      I’d be wary of Hue and guys like him. He tookover in 2014, Jay Gruden’s offense, after Jay was hired by Wash. Its similar to James Bettcher the defensive coordinator for AZ cardinals. He tookover Todd Bowles’ defense and is continuing his system.

      • ohitsdom

        He did it in OAK before though, so he has a history. Plus he’s made adjustments, although can’t say I know too much detail.

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        Agreed. Also I feel being a coordinator is very different than being a coach. There’s clock management, people management, adjustments on the fly, balancing talent and scheme to benefit one another. Truthfully I feel if you get a strong candidate like a linebackers or secondary coach at d coordinator I like the idea of Sean Payton. Great offensive mind, plays his role and has the silverware to prove it.

      • Sam Bradfords Chicken Legs

        Hue Jackson does not run Jay Gruden system. He has said he runs whatever works, and actually does some similar things to what Chip introduced. He mixes it up well and has gotten results. I’d love to see him work with Jordan Matthews. I think they could be a match made in heaven.

        Chip called his offense the see coast offense. Hue said something similar but said its the Bengal coast offense. Probably keeps things Gruden did though. I hope whoever our coach is does good things with the offense. I think we have talent (need offensive line help) and sometimes I have no clue wtf Chip was doing with it.

      • Coatesvillain

        Bengals offense is better and more varied with Jackson at the helm.

        • All In Eagles

          and they have playmakers on offense.

  • Honest_T

    Ugg, Howie’s in charge of personnel again! More undersized “fastballs” please. Chip never wanted personnel, but the cards he was being delt sucked! I think the guys Chip brought in should set us up for a nice 2016 draft, regardless of the coach.

    Everyone needs to cool their jets on Jackson & McDaniels as they have playoff runs hampering availability. And please no McDermott! That defense is Ron Rivera, not the guy who was so bad making our Oline coach the DC seemed like a good idea.

    • you’re confusing Howie with Reid.

      • Honest_T

        How would you describe MSII?

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          “Benched”

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          Howie’s and Chip’s combined powers

        • you want to lay MSII at Howie’s feet? Who’s being naive?

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            Mmmm…
            I still can’t be sure who was really in charge of that pick, either way.

            Won’t say it was Howie, but won’t say it was Chip, either.

          • No. It was a group effort. I’ll tell you this Klep, Howie wasn’t drafting 3-4 edge guys before Chip. And he wasn’t drafting guys on “measurables” alone.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            That’s true.

          • Amar, Winter is coming

            True.
            Also, personnel evaluations by the FO are recorded and available for later review. That is what Lurie hangs his hat on, when it comes to Howie.
            He said it during the last power struggle when Joe Banner was ousted, that Howie’s player evaluations were very accurate. I think he saw the same things in the past draft(s) and determined Howie was still doing a better job than Chip and his team.

          • he does. if Howie was a complete idiot with regard to player evaluation, he’d be gone.

          • Drjjsmythe927

            Howie made it happen!!

          • GoBirds1

            And you believe what Lurie and Eagles brass say to the public???? You should reevaluate what you consider to be fact…

          • Honest_T

            I never took it away from Howie’s feet. I think that is why Chip got personnel control, because Howie, Patch and the crew were lining up garbage for him to choose from.

          • I have no interest in Howie being the GM. I think we can do better. We agree there.

    • Byter

      Howie would still be the GM if Chip hadn’t extorted/brainwashed Lurie.

      • justanotherdummy

        I don’t think we would be in this mess if Chip and Tom Gamble had taken Howie for a ride, made him dig his own hole and gave him a .22 behind the ear like the old KGB used to do. Gamble was a football guy who had some miles on him, could have maybe kept Chip from going full looney and trying to skip steps in the building process.

        • Byter

          It wasn’t an endorsement for Howie and perhaps you are right about Gamble.

          • justanotherdummy

            I didn’t take it as an endorsement. But we all know Howie has been lurking around in the shadows waiting for a chance to shank somebody in the kidney and climb back into his old office.

    • KAO

      I agree McDermott is a DC at best in this league. Of everyone here Hue Jackson and McDaniels are the least terrible as I do think both got raw deals before but as long as Howie is in charge of personnel the Eagles are going nowhere.

      • All In Eagles

        Breaking News: The Eagles have sent their team minivan to New York to pick up Tom Coughlin.

    • Mr. Magee

      Chip never wanted personnel….. Right

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        Exactly

  • Beta20

    This upcoming draft is likely to be a disaster. They could get lucky, but track record of bad talent evaluation for both Howie and Donahue, plus inescapable dysfunction because of Howie and how he fractures the organization, plus ego of new HC who is going to be an automatic lame duck….this board is going to be so messed up.

    • Honest_T

      The board should be just about set at this point, as long as Howie doesn’t screw it up. We need OL in rounds 1 & 3, and the rest depends on if we want to run the 3-4 or 4-3 next year.

      • Beta20

        Set up?!? Howie is a combine guy. He’s been busy running sales in the pro shop and getting equipment for players this year. Wonder if he’s watched more than a handful of UofF games.

      • stop it. everything you just said is wrong.

        • Honest_T

          I overstated saying it was “set”, I meant made. If our scouting department is waiting for the underwear olympics to make it’s decisions we are even more screwed than I thought.

          • well with that caveat, OK.

            as much as I would prefer a real GM, we still haven’t had a draft as good as 2012 – either in the Howie/Chip era or the ChipSolo era.

      • Amar, Winter is coming

        You mean the board for 2018 ?
        C’mon man. Very few have even declared for the draft.

        • Honest_T

          You think they wait to scout and slot them, until they declare?

    • bowl season isn’t over. senior bowl. combine. pro days.

      the board hasn’t been made yet. lets not overreact.

      • Klep: squirrel-less

        Man, this is getting wild.

        I’M LOVIN’ IT!

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          Only going to get worse….better

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            SURF’S UP, SPACE PONIES! I’M MAKIN’ MASHED POTATOES…WITHOUT THE LUMPS!!

            AAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!…..

      • Beta20

        Do you have ANY faith in Howie?

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          To manage the cap? Yes. To build a football team? Not really

          • Beta20

            just about anybody can manage the cap. Hence, what is the point of having Howie and his downside around?

            Man, this whole Fire CK + Reinstate Howie thing has me fired up. Fire CK alone, I kinda get. But combine that with Howie? Makes absolutely no sense. And ultimately, this reflects on ownership. Stupid stupid ownership.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            Back where we started after we fired Reid

          • SilentBob

            We’re in worse shape, the team had more talent to work with then

  • Eagles1018 is packing it in

    I wonder if the new HC and/or old/new GM Howie are gonna keep Azzinaro. I love that dude

    • Beta20

      No way. He and CK are package deal.

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        That’s what I’m afraid of

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      I wonder how loyal Azzinaro is to Chip. Part of me almost believes that Azzinaro will go with Chip.

      I can’t say for sure.

      • Byter

        Like you and me, they’re loyal to a pay check.

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Azzinaro and Chip are different. They are more loyal to certain ideals, and to their friends, generally. Not saying they can’t split, just saying that money doesn’t seem to drive either one of them.

          Azzinaro could end up staying, but I doubt it will be because of money.

    • Honest_T

      NFW he says. Azz was hand picked by Chip as Head Coach of the Defense before he hired a DC. He will be the Titans DC next year.

    • Phan from Afar

      I credit Azz with most of our wins this year. When we got pressure on the opposing QB they turned it over…and when they turned it over we won.

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    • Kev_H

      Roseman has become very pro-continuity, so I think his default will be to look for positive continuity.

    • London Eagle

      I like Azz too, but I think he goes with Chip. Plus, he coaches a 3-4 and I think most of us are hoping we switch back to a 4-3. I am interested in what happens with Stoutland though–he did an admirable job in a tough spot the last few years (plus, he just seems like a good guy).

  • justanotherdummy

    We are the Browns now. Just need Lurie to be indicted for stealing.

    • explain

      • justanotherdummy

        We have no qb, giant holes in our roster, a disfunctional player personnel department, beset by inter-office politics that interferes with function. Plus the organization is a laughingstock. We don’t have a nasty lake, but do have a polluted river.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Wait, the river is polluted?

          • Elvira!…her womb is polluted.

          • justanotherdummy

            I wouldn’t swim in the Schyulkill

        • karlub

          Hey, now: The Schuylkill is a LOT less polluted than it used to be. Stripers are swimming in it to spawn, again, and the shad run appears to be coming back, too.

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      Little early for that.

      If they fire the next guy in 2 years, you might have an argument.

      Or, if they bring in Johnny Manziel.

    • Honest_T

      No, we are the Buffalo Bills from 2001-2006, the last umm powerhouse? Tom Donahoe built.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I find it funny that media members are throwing around the line I made earlier in regards to finding a coach that is “a leader of men”.

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      I think you’re a smart guy, Jerry Pomeroy.

      But, so help me… I do hate that phrase so much.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I just find it funny. It’s like when you don’t notice a car until you buy it and then see it everywhere.

        • leadership is the single most important dynamic on the battlefield Jerry. Football field too. At least you get it. Hopefully Lurie does too. Then again, he’s from LA.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Well said sir!

          • Don’t call me sir, I work for a living.

            Who am I kidding? I haven’t done any real work in years…

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yes, sir Captain.

          • hahaha. Thanks Jerry. I got promoted BTW – even less work now.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Oh, excuse me baby bird, I mean Colonel.

          • what did you guys call Majors?

          • justanotherdummy

            Sir, most of the time.

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Now this is something I can relate to on a more than conceptual level.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        By the way, I say it from a military perspective. Being a veteran Army Infantryman, I heard the line many times in PLDC. Not just a phrase.

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          Chip couldn’t lead Soldiers across the street

          • El Jefe Inflated My Puffy Coat

            But he can push them under a bus!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Have you ever tried to cross Broad Street on a busy Sunday??

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            I don’t live in Philly. But if you gave me a group of Paratroopers id shut ish down

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Well to get from NovaCare (or Chickie’s&Pete’s) to the stadium you have to cross Broad Street. It’s not fun.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            Lots of standing in line?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            More like playing Frogger in real life.

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Gotcha.

          I just hear it and it means nothing. For me, a leader of men is just a guy who does what he knows is right, even when others tell him he’s wrong, or an idiot, or whatever.

          Eventually, people follow him. Or kill him. Whatever seems reasonable at the time.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Much more to it than that. You’re description sounds more like rebellion or innovation. Mine is COMPLETELY different.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            Yes. I think we are coming from different frames of reference.

            I do respect your definition, though. It’s obviously been formatted through experiences different from mine.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Seen the movie Fury? Brad Pitt’s character is a leader of men. I’m sure you’ve seen Saving Private Ryan? Tom Hanks character is a leader of men.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            Ok. I think I understand your point of view.

            Mine isn’t so different. Whether in war or peace, men doing what they know is right, regardless of the risks and consequences and outside perception, leading to either glory or death, sometimes both.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            It’s not so much about doing what they think is right. It’s about getting grown men to respect and follow unquestionably. It’s about belief in that individual and not fear of that individual.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            I was coming from the angle that belief in the individual is a result from knowing that said individual is going to do the right thing.

  • miketd1

    Jim Schwartz. Install the wide-9 4-3. Our players actually fit this style.

    Promote Pat Shurmer to offensive coordinator and keep parts of the system that worked and ditch the rest. That should keep Bradford happy.

  • Rick

    OK, it looks like Lurie kept all these people in his back pocket to revert to them when this thing went bad. My concerns that these guys were not burning up the world with their decisions before Chip got control. Donahue and Howie are not the answer, but I’m betting that’s what Lurie is about to do. Put them in charge to find the next HC.

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      Feels like strike two coming up

    • Sam Bradfords Chicken Legs

      Ugh. Wtf.

  • KAO

    The list of potential coaches is absolute garbage and all less successful than Chip…. Ive lost all faith in Eagles ownership today. Probably be drafting top 10 next year.

    • happy with Chip’s moves are we?

      • KAO

        Not happy but not blaming him for the holocaust like most.

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          What about the Exodus?

        • Rick

          So you don’t believe your lying eyes that Chip brought this on himself?

          • KAO

            Chip didnt give himself control for one year. What kind of retarded plan would that be? If Lurie wasnt 100% committed then he shouldnt of turned it over. It’s that simple. Everyone makes a massive deal about this offseason like we got worse BECAUSE of the players that arent here and thats just not true none of those players save Maclin have been even close to great for their rosters this year.

          • Oh wow. Chip was a disaster as a GM.

          • Rick

            If you don’t believe he had a hand in drafting before he got total control, I don’t think that’s realistic. Chip’s teams have be in a downward spiral since last year BEFORE he took control. This defense is atrocious, he’s a bad NFL coach and and even worse talent evaluator. I’m betting this guy doesn’t get another NFL job, because of what he did here. That will be the ultimate statement about Chip Kelly.

          • KAO

            The team did get worse year two and I applaud Chip for taking chances and trying to improve it. 10-6 isnt good enough, 2% of coaches in this league would have that mentality after the success the 1st two seasons. Now the Eagles are far better off at QB with Foles gone and Bradford in tow at least at QB. The secondary was better this year, maybe not statistically but the level of play isnt just stats. The Oline was the real killer…. He went 26-21 as an NFL HC with basically trash QBs. Its really hard to win without a QB and even harder when Sanchez is forced to play and that really really hurt this year and last….

          • Rick

            Dude, most coaches that go 10-6 in the first two years don’t blow up their roster! 10-6 isn’t that far away from 12-4 and a high seed in the playoffs. That doesn’t require blowing up, it requires tweaking. He blew it up and screwed it up.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            This ^…. he went all win now after his first year. Then he cranked it up even further after his second year.

          • KAO

            Trading for a better QB is blowing up the roster? Releasing 33+ guards is blowing up the roster? Trading a RB who wont hit the hole despite being told repeatedly and has an attitude problem is blowing up the roster? Fact: If guys catch the ball this year we’re 10-6 again and Chip is still coaching. You can name a million flaws with this team but nothing changes that they were the worst in football with drops with players that had no history really with that….

          • Rick

            Dude, here you go again cherry picking decisions. Releasing a pro-bowl receiver and RB that fit his system better than the one he got. Cutting a 33 year old guard without a sufficient replacement. Overpaying for a CB that can’t cover. Offense wasn’t the problem of this team until CHIP KELLY made it a problem. Defense was the problem and he made it worse. The drops show that he let people go that didn’t drop the ball. If you want to do a Stevie Wonder on what this guy has done go right ahead.

  • Immaculate Perception

    Mark my words: Chip Kelly will win a Super Bowl ring before the Philadelphia Eagles do.

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      Entirely possible…. but it wasn’t ever happening here

      • Sam Bradfords Chicken Legs

        Still say 2013 was his best chance. If only our defense was better.

    • Rick

      How’s that song go? “Beautiful Dreamer, dream unto me”

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      Uh, I think Chip is a great coach, but he can’t win a ring without a team.

      Since he has no team at this time and the Eagles do still function as a football team, I think maybe we should tap the brakes on the Chip Kelly Super Bowl Coronation.

    • a comment worthy of the grey army. well done.

      • Klep: squirrel-less

        I have to hand it to him on this, though: have you ever started to read a comment that begins with “Mark my words” and not finished it?

        Bold move, and effective.

        • I’ll see your “mark my words” and raise you a “book it!!!!!”

        • All In Eagles

          Haha, hilarious and absolutely true.

      • Eagles1018 is packing it in

        Chip did say Mariota will win multiple rings in this league….

    • Honest_T

      Chip lost the locker room, he needs to get the relationship part right to succeed.

      The Eagles need to get the personnel thing right to succeed, and unfortunately that now resides in the hands of Howie “with the 22 pick in the NFL draft the Philadelphia Eagles select, Macus Smith” Roseman, and a guy who’s greatest accomplishment was trading a mid-round pick for Jerome Bettis in 1993.

    • paul from nc

      That’s as dumb as Book It.

  • Phillyphan11

    I definitely do not want Hue Jackson, just don’t think he’s that great of a coach. If we were to go the offensive approach I’d want Gase or maybe McDaniels. Defensively mcdermot would be my biggest candidate. Those 3 would make up my shortlist, with gase at the top followed by mcdermot than mcdaniels

    • Rick

      I don’t want either of those guys. I don’t think either of them have a clue on how to be a head coach. Has McDaniels learned anything since the Denver fiasco? I also think Hue Jackson is not HC material. Nothing that I can point to just a gut feel. I think you could go a Sean Peyton or if you could get John Harbaugh I would look into that also.

      • Byter

        I don’t know their contract situation but you can’t tamper with a coach under contract unless it’s a move up the ladder (e.g. DC to HC).

        • Rick

          I understand that, but you need a coach that understands this town and is a good NFL coach. I think you turn over every stone possible, this is a big decision. I really wish they would do the GM first, but it looks like we’re going to be stuck with clueless Howie.

      • Phillyphan11

        That’s why McDaniels is my third choice of those. While obviously Peyton would be nice it’s just not realistic as its unlikely he leaves NO. I like Gase, had great success in Denver and turned Cutlers potential into a real QB this year. With a solid DC running a 4-3 system I think it could be a good combo.

        • KAO

          I guess I could get excited for Gase maybe…. At least he’s an offensive mind I respect.

        • justanotherdummy

          That’s the only option that doesn’t make me feel like I’m going to vomit on my shoes.

  • Eagles1018 is packing it in
    • NJ.com will report anything

      • Klep: squirrel-less

        ESP is one coherent sentence away from being their editor-in-chief.

  • Phan from Afar

    Good info, Tim. Thanks!

    Obviously I’ve never met CK but, based on what I’ve seen, I think he’s of a personality type that I’m well familiar with. They’re very convincing initially because of their confidence, but in a relatively short time you can pick up that they’re just not tuned in to reality; they live in their own fantasy world. That works with young folks and misfits because they haven’t figured out the real world yet so they don’t have the ability to question it.

    Lurie did the best thing he could; drew his own conclusion, provided CK with an option much more grounded in reality, then eliminated him when he wouldn’t agree to it. Hats off to the owner!

    • Honest_T

      Let’s not rewrite history. I think everyone agrees that personnel has been the main problem since Andy Reid had to build the “dream team” in free agency because we can’t pick and develop players.

      • Rick

        I truly believe that the loss of Jim Johnson was the beginning of the the end for AR. I really don’t think JJ gets the credit he deserves for what he did for the Eagles.

        • KAO

          JJ made Andy Reid when you check the records. Those last two Andy drafts werent bad actually really good. The one where we got Lito and Sheldon and that safety basically 3 Pro Bowlers was a good one but yeah the Reid era drafting was beyond awful overall….

        • Phan from Afar

          That was my biggest issue with Andy; he slowly dismantled a good defense to build up the offense. Was fine the first few years, but then it went too far. That’s why I didn’t like Lurie’s decision to hire Chip; I felt strongly (and still do) that we should have a defensive minded HC.

        • Eagles1018 is packing it in

          He does with me

        • Coatesvillain

          I think JJ gets plenty of credit.

          When Andy started to go downhill was when his coaching staff was depleted. The staff he started with was pretty amazing and when guys left he had a hard time replacing them.

      • justanotherdummy

        Being honest however, Chip’s selections from last year might pan out. Agholar could come on in his second year, he had brief intermittent flashes this season. Rowe might be a solid starter. Hicks looks like a keeper. Sheppard has a shot as well as the nickel or even outside in spots. If they score four starters out of 6 or so picks, that is a solid year. If Bunche or the guy from Miami hit, then it’s a bumper crop.

        • KAO

          Most of the players drafted in the Chip era are on the team. The key early round ones anyways… MS3 hasnt been able to play but I have no doubt thats because of Davis incompetence.

      • Phan from Afar

        Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying I think we’d be looking at “12-4 Superbowl!” next year if Chip had agreed to Lurie’s terms. I think CK the coach is every bit as incompetent at this level because he isn’t grounded in reality. We’d still have suck, just a different shade of suck. If CK had accepted Lurie’s terms all we would have done was defer the eject button for a year.

  • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

    Its Eagles everything on NFLN. You know HBO is pissed that Kelly was fired. It was going to be the greatest season of Hard Knocks ever.

    • Beta20

      You know what would be crazy? If the Eagles re-hired CK after Hard Knocks starts filming.

      Yeah, that would be hilariously crazy.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Stop it you BetaMax!

  • SundayAfternoons

    well then

  • Junior Tautalatasi

    I own a business and had a manager who had what he termed as GOOD ideas. I didn’t realize til they didn’t work. I did the same thing, for the business .

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      I bet he just didn’t make his ideas play fast enough. He ran too much time off the clock between ideas and gave stagnation a breather.

  • Philonious

    We’re in full rebuild mode now fellas. Settle in. It will be a long time until relevancy again.

    • JofreyRice

      Better than to start after 4-12 2016 Chip Swan song, with whatever other jagged off moves he had up his sleeve for this offseason.

      • Philonious

        You’re being hyperbolic. We don’t know what would have been. We do know we have no coach no QB and a lockeroom with no leader. 4-12 is optimistic for 2016.

        • JofreyRice

          Better than a locker room against the head coach. This team, in this incarnation, is broken on and off the field. If the record and events of the season can’t convince you of that, I’m not going to waste my time trying.

          • Philonious

            This s is ultimately why he was fired, I think. His players wouldn’t play for him.

      • Phan from Afar

        All I’ve been able to think about is a 2016 season with a $30 million Sam “The Stork” Bradford in traction for thirteen weeks, watching Sanchez throwing to guys wearing the wrong color.

        • Will

          OMG LMFAO…too funny!!!!!!!!!!

      • KAO

        Yeah because teams in the NFC East never bounce back lmao
        I think we would of had a great year next year long as we found a new DC and resigned Bradford. Glad to see somebody on Earth can see potential future events so clearly though.

        • JofreyRice

          Players quit on him multiple times in-season and publicly questioned his methods. The guy was a poor leader fielding a team playing badly for a year and a half. He re-signed Sanchez FFS! Think!

          • KAO

            Sanchez is awful but name the better backup option he could of signed?

          • Spaceman Spiff

            Tyrod Taylor.

          • stephan

            He wanted a chance to be a starter. Never would have happened here.

        • Rick

          Dude, I know you want to keep defending this idiot, but he got FIRED for a reason. Because the owner didn’t want to see those FUTURE events. Actually, neither did I.

    • Will

      Gregg Williams (DC)…Mike Singletary (DC)…Sean Mcdermott (HC)…Sean
      Payton (HC)…John Harbaugh (HC)… Jon Gruden (HC) Bill Cowher
      (HC)…Mike Holmgren…( 1st choice for HC)

      • Rick

        Not a big Gregg Williams fan, but the Mike Signletary for DC is interesting.

  • justanotherdummy

    Mark Eckel thinks Howie’s grubby little paws are all over this maneuver, he has been “poisoning” Ed M and has simply won by playing the long game. Jeff has to fire this guy. I need this team to have everyone pulling on the rope in the same direction. “Open covenants, openly arrived at.” The GM’s job is not to protect his own job, it is to help the coach win games. Howie has a touch of Svengali to him where Lurie is involved. He’s got to go.

  • JofreyRice

    Really glad they fired the lying “Fraud on Broad”, Chip Kelly, but the descriptions of behind the scenes intrigue at Novacare really concern me. How in the world could Lurie think it’s wise to bring Roseman back? The Eagles FO has been an opaque miasma of fractured alliances, power plays and dysfunction. Where does the stewardship of the franchise rate for these guys? I worry we’re in for more losing because it doesn’t seem Lurie’s picked up on all the factors for why Chip failed.

    • Eagles1018 is packing it in

      Jofrey im a long time admirer. But you gotta dumb it down. We’re football fans not spelling bee champs

      • JofreyRice

        Ok my bad. I get carried away with my thesaurus sometimes; transported, whisked, lol

        • karlub

          Don’t change. Better to err on the side of thinking people are smarter than they are, rather than dumber.

          Unless you’re running a football team, that is.

    • Will

      Search for a GM with a winning track record, Howie needs to stay on contracts, and then find a HC… The only concern I have is the drafts revert back to crap again…

    • KAO

      Lurie has been brainwashed by trash media outlets and shows like First Take the past 10 months just like most Eagles fans into thinking that 1 year is a good judge of a new job. I fear we’re due for a long period of sucking especially if Howie is still making decisions….

      • JofreyRice

        Chip was in charge for nearly 3 years with diminishing returns in every category. And he had the personability of a serial killer, everyone hated him.

        • All In Eagles

          Even Jeffrey Dahmer was voted “most liked” in high school.

        • KAO

          Oh brother save your physiological evaluations for Stephen A Smith on First Take…… No one cares about that winning is USUALLY all that matters guess not so much right now. Cant wait til Howie is gone….

    • Rick

      Have to agree about Roseman, but I had to look up miasma. So now your posts can be true and educational.

    • SVPhilly

      Bonus points for miasma!

      • I had a miasma once. Had it removed in a minor office procedure.

    • paul from nc

      We will in for bad seasons, for a while, because of the talent that we are left with, as well as the front office fiasco.

  • Late to the party on this bit. Again.
    I’m really surprised, as Lurie has historically “stuck by his man” in the past.
    I’m not surprised at all, as… you know. Law of averages and whatnot.

    Hats off to the owner. Going all “zero tolerance” and all. Yay! More offseason draama.

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      *hires Lane Kiffin*

  • Mr. Wu

    wow just finding this out now…been avoiding Eagles news all wekk…din’t see this coming from Lurie like this …did anyone?

    • anon

      kempski

    • Will

      Token….lol…

      • Rick

        Sounds like the usual suspects. LOL

        • Mr. Wu

          well i figured it might happen next week if it did but I a impressed with Lurie on this one

    • Kev_H

      I’ve been virtually reporting it here since Thanksgiving. Been off a lot between, because it was just a matter of biding time and I was busy at work until a Christmas break. Kelly was more toast than any NFL coach I had seen. The players seemed to be in open revolt– called “heartless” by Kelly fans, but going into the self-preservation mode pro players go into when they know they are on a sinking ship with the captain going down.

  • Phan from Afar

    I think Chip Kelly earned himself a new reputation that warrants the big balls label; p1ssing away millions of the owners money on mediocre talent. Takes a lot of fortitude to pull off that stunt. Certainly more than I’ve got.

    • Rick

      I think that reputation will keep him out of an NFL job too.

      • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

        Pssst… Dude might have a new job before we get a new coach

        • Rick

          A college job yes, but not an NFL job. I think he burned himself on this one.

          • Kev_H

            Exactly. If the owner consults with players and then dumps the coach, that doesn’t really set you up for a change of NFL scenery. Then who’s going to be the guy to pursue him and get the Roseman treatment when things start to falter? And what quality NFL coaches can he recruit? “hey, you love defense, I’ll let you have 18 games worth of snaps for your guys. What do you say? C’mon!”

      • Phan from Afar

        Agree. The media has been fixated on the guy so his shenanigans will be well known. That said, I’m surprised at how seemingly shocked many media personalities seem to be over this; already calling it unexpected, controversial, and whatnot. I think those previously mentioned shenanigans that they seem to be unaware of will surface in time and destroy his marketability.

        • Kev_H

          I’m with you. When does a coach survive this stuff? He was done on Thanksgiving day and it seemed pretty clear. I’m surprised Lurie didn’t pull the plug on Black Friday, but he isn’t a knee jerk guy and apparently met with everyone in the organization to take the temperature.

  • Pennguino

    Names are being thrown out for possible HC jobs. A lot of the talking heads are mentioning the Coordinator from NE. I just think they are looking at the wrong one. I want a defensive guy not another offensive guy. The league caters to offenses so it would be easier for one to succeed.

    http://www.dailynews.com/events/20150130/new-england-patriots-matt-patricia-is-the-brains-behind-the-defense

    But in each of Patricia’s three years, the Patriots have given up just eight pass plays of 40-plus yards. The year before he took over, they gave up 14.
    How much is physics and how much is football?
    “The one thing I think about is problem solving,” Patricia said. “Trying to decipher the other team. I enjoy that.”

    http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/more-xs-and-os-patricia-inspires-patriots-defense

    Further cementing him as football’s version of a mad scientist was a picture that surfaced on Barstool Sports, taken in the days leading up to Super Bowl XLIX in Arizona. In it, he sat at a desk surrounded by scattered papers and opened cans of Diet Mountain Dew, coming off as someone who schemes up blitz packages on little sleep, face aglow from the light of multiple computer screens.

    Images of the late Jim Johnson popped in my head when i read that.

    • Rick

      How much of that is Belichick? I don’t know the answer to that, but I would really want to know that before entertaining Patricia.

      • Pennguino

        Me too. The Pats have been a top ten scoring defense since he took over the defense. The two years prior to that they were 18th and 25th. I have been reading up on him a little in old articles. The players on both sides of the ball love him. The articles mention him as the architect of the defense. He played G/C and coached a little on the O side.

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      I like Patricia too

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      How do you feel about the Bronco DC?

      • Pennguino

        Wade Phillips? Great DC but not a HC guy. He has had some success but could never get over the hump.

        • Rick

          Great DC for a about 3 -5 years. He’s got a shelf life.

    • JofreyRice

      Interesting, yeah. I’d be a little wary of hiring McDaniels after he pooped his pants so vigorously in Denver and gave away all their talent like…hmmm

      Some former Eagles coach…can’t place the name…

      • Pennguino

        Yea, someone mentioned the torch job in Denver with Cutler.

        • JofreyRice

          He also swapped in a better “system fit” in Kyle Orton, then drafted Tebow in the first round (shocking reach). Got rid of Brandon Marshall because of personality and signed 2 or 3 vet RBs to decent sized contracts and also took Knowshon Moreno. It was really a dumpster fire there in terms of personnel after he left.

  • Will

    To all the Chip supporter’s move on nothing to see here…Lurie saves
    the day but re-inventing Howie will have it’s downside…I don’t know
    much about Tom Donahue but I’m pretty sure Lurie thought long and hard
    about doing this. So there’s a plan in place I trust…have to see if
    they get the right HC interviewed and hired this time around and not go
    back to horrendous drafts…

    • Klep: squirrel-less

      This is too interesting to leave, now. I think I’ll stick around.

      Still think Chip is a good coach. I even think he’s a decent judge of football talent.

      • Rick

        Really??, so why did he fail?

        • 7-8 plays in his book.

        • anon

          b/c he’s an ass and his players don’t like him. all iq no eq.

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Because he’s human.

          It’s what humans do. I’ve done it. I’ll probably do it again.

          Maybe you haven’t. If so, congratulations. Keep it up.

          • Rick

            That’s it, human condition? Nice sarcasm, too bad I couldn’t get a better answer.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            one of my favorite lines, when asking how something happened:

            “It happened gradually, then suddenly.”

            I hope that’s a better answer.

      • Will
        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Yep. Scoreboard. It’s the best argument.

          Chip hired these guys and try didn’t win. He’s a bad talent evaluator and coach.

          You’re right.

      • Kev_H

        NFL coaching is about two things (head coaching) 1. building an organization, 2. getting guys to put selfishness aside and play for the team.

        Kelly is an abject failure at both and hasn’t demonstrated the ability to do either in the NFL. In the NFL, you retain and reward the guys who succeed for you. That builds culture. The clown show is over.

        • Klep: squirrel-less

          Maybe. But, depending on who they hire next, the clown show may be just beginning.

          • Kev_H

            No. The Eagles actually have a fairly sound organizational culture. I’m impressed how Lurie was able to keep a safety net in place while giving Kelly everything he asked for, including full support. I truly think they all would have been ecstatic had it worked, but they realized from the start that Kelly is kind of out there- a guy who preaches “growth mindset” but won’t listen to anybody else. The guy who thinks he’s the smartest one in the room, never is. Kelly didn’t wear losing well with his weird press conferences and passive aggressively pointing fingers everywhere else when he had total control and support.

          • Klep: squirrel-less

            Ok.

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      I have little faith in Howie coming in to save the day…Actually none.

      I don’t think there is a plan…. Lurie just knew he had to stop Super Villain Chip. I bet he met with Chip thinking he would give GM duties and go back to just coaching

      • Will
        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          I’m expecting this team to turn into the Aints, LA Rams, Browns… I’m going full Dark Side this time around

          • Maybe Cards when they were still in the NFC East. And yeah, they would still manage to beat the Birds once a season. Ahh… memories.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            49ers pre Harbaugh

          • Will

            Depends who they hire just hope they avoid the college ranks….

      • Rick

        I really wish we could get a true GM in here. Remember the whole Tom Modrak thing early on with AR? They need a true football guy in here. Howie isn’t the answer. Unless Donahoe is going to be the football guy.

      • Kev_H

        There is a plan– why do you think Roseman was retained and why do you think he stayed? Like it or not, he is Lurie’s de facto son and if you are an Eagles fan you have to deal with it. On the bright side, following Roseman’s career, one sees actual evidence of the “growth mindset” Kelly talked about but never demonstrated (maybe never understood). So I am hopeful, but as I wrote on here earliers, Roseman is the Eagles and will be as long as Lurie is the owner. That was made abundantly clear in March. If he was just some 15 year employee passing through, he wouldn’t have spent dozens of games at Luries’ side in the owners’ box and he wouldn’t have remained with the Eagles in 2015. Like them or not, those are the facts regarding the Philadelphia Eagles.

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          Not entertaining anymore optimism surrounding this team.

          • Kev_H

            You’ll change. The current roster in the current division can compete with a grind it out, defense oriented approach in 2016. That should be the floor. If they steadily improve and/or some skill players elevate their games, you have a contender.

            I think we’ll look back and say Lurie pulled the plug before things for too bad. 10 days ago a division crown and playoff run were still possible. I think he had seen enough by Thanksgiving but let it play out giving Kelly every chance- and he went full special snowflake. There is no reflection or growth mindset with Kelly. Only fast talk and deflection.

        • hillbillybirdsfan

          I am hoping Howie ate his slice of humble pie and will lean heavily on Donohoe.

  • anon

    from schefter: Chip Kelly already has multiple head coaching offers, including the Titans, a source has indicated to ESPN

    • JofreyRice

      His twitter, or where?

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      Last I heard he had 3 offers already…

      • anon

        he might — but i got that quote from fake schefter

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          I should rephrase that as interest from 3 teams

        • JofreyRice

          Yeah fake rapoport got me earlier

  • Phan from Afar

    I hope Dallas fires Jason Garrett and hires Chip Kelly. I’d love to beat up on the chubby little stooge twice per year. Just because.

    • That would be truly hilarious! Make it so!

      • Phan from Afar

        I know, right? Plus the drama between Chip and Jerry would be priceless.

        • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

          Nah…. I don’t want to be tied to Kelly anymore. Let that guy ride off into the sun

          He ends up in Dallas and its a huge thing at least twice a year. Its bad enough we have to deal with Djax.

          If they win a SB with I might just quit.

          • Phan from Afar

            Part of that is I have to live in Dallas for the next few years. I guess I’d love to see Cowboys fans have to endure what we have these past few years.

            Truthfully I think CK has cooked his goose in the NFL. At least for a while. Then again, there are always morbidly desperate franchises out there.

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            Chip’s tenure with the Eagles was just practice. Running this team into the ground was Kelly finding out what didn’t work.

            Guy will be back. Question is whether its sooner or later

          • Will

            Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a Titan by week’s end…

          • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

            Or Brown

          • Phan from Afar

            Agree. That seems to be the pattern for college-turned-pro coaches. A few years getting chewed up, return to college for a while, then return and have greater success.

            Kind of like making a kid stand in the corner to think about what they did wrong.

          • Much later.

          • Lmao @ the “Dallas Morbidly Desperates”

          • hillbillybirdsfan

            Upvote for saying ‘sun’ instead of ‘sunset’

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Oh then the cherry on top would be for JJ to bring in Johnny Football.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Wait a minute, they just said this same exact thing on 97.5. (Staying up waiting for the wife to get home from work).

    • Kev_H

      I don’t think there is a market for Kelly in the NFL. He carries with him the same problems he had here- will have an impossible time putting together a staff of NFL caliber people, players don’t like him, and what GM is going to want to hire a guy who’ll stab him in the back if things go wrong?

  • anon

    Baltimore owner Art Modell said he might still be in Cleveland had he not hired Bill Belichick as coach in 1991.

    “I was sold a bill of goods on Belichick,” Modell said. “To Bill, everything was like the Normandy invasion. I couldn’t talk to him during practice because he was coaching.

    “I really believe that much of the disdain and abuse I received was because of the feelings the media and the public had for Bill. Every day I thought it would change, that he would be more pleasant to people. He never did and it hurt all of us terribly.”…

    • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

      Think Chip is following big brother’s footsteps?

      • anon

        sounds like it

        • Kev_H

          He needs about 20 years of NFL experience to get up to speed.

    • Token

      LOL what a joke

  • Dan

    You can see why the other guy went on to espn and these guys were left here. compare what’s written here to this explanation http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14463652/why-chip-kelly-experiment-work-nfl

    • Rick

      I’m not going to put down Tim and the crew. Sheil is a talented guy and I wish him well. But he and Tim started this thing I believe and I’m glad they did.

      • Dan

        One guy is talented. The other guy is just a “guy” that repeats what he’s told.

    • SaWbOn3s

      You know you don’t have to read this site if you don’t like it. We all miss Sheil, he is a great writer, but that doesn’t mean Josh and Tim don’t do an outstanding job as well. This site provides, by far, the best Eagles coverage around.

      • Dan

        I will read what I like and make my opinion known.

    • Phan from Afar

      One of the big reasons I come here is the fellow commenters. I’ve never seen another board with so many folks that offer truly thought provoking debate. Say what you will about the authors’ writing, but don’t underestimate the power of the comments section.

      • Dan

        I agree that it is fun sparring with commentators here.

        They do a good job of aggregation of information and have the most coverage.

        The analysis is thinly veiled cheerleading and conventional wisdom. The quality of writing is generally poor as well.

        Paunil is about as bad as it gets in this town, Mcmanus is par for the mediocre course.

        There are clearly better. Kempski, Mclane and Bowen. Not great, but all better.

  • Klep: squirrel-less

    So, 8 hours ago, Fletcher Cox tweeted “SMH…..what’s for dinner.”

    And that’s it.

    Now, by itself, that’s still a pretty good tweet. But, if to has anything to do with the day’s events, it’s even better.

    He needs to stay in Philly forever.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Think my early favorites after thinking it over the past couple hours would be a tie between McDaniels & McDermott. Give me the Mc

    • Dan

      McDermott for sure. Andy let the players dictate late in his reign. Guys like Trent cole refused to learn the zone blitz system. It was too complex and took them out of traditional roles. The inmates ran the asylum.

  • KAO

    Looking back on past drafts its amazing how much better the past 3 have been.
    2012 was an anomaly, Great draft multiple starters and backups not just in the league but contributed to us. After that though you have to go all the way to 2006 to find a decent one. 2009 we got Maclin and Shady but that was it awful otherwise. 2005 found gems and 2002 was stellar but these last 3 drafts most of the guys drafted that are still in the league which is most, should continue to be so for a long time. With a few Pro Bowl caliber players like Ertz, Logan and Johnson and maybe Matthews if he remembers how to catch.

    • Dan

      These are ramblings with no basis in fact. None of the players cited have sniffed the pro bowl. Meanwhile, Cox and Foles did make it and Kelce has deserved it in past years.

  • GoBirds1

    I don’t understand the logic having Howie as the GM again, particularly heading up personnel. Wasn’t Howie the rainmaker that brought Chip here in the first place. Clearly there were better coaches available and hired that year. As a non football guy hasn’t Howie proved it out that he is a horrible player personnel guy? Was Chips first off season as GM any worse than when Howie was running the show. Remember dream team and the dreck that was drafted before Chip? Howie was kept around to manage the cap, which is not that hard anymore, and to be Lurie’s spy. So why in the hell would you make him GM again…that is insane, please explain.

    • KAO

      Who were the better coaches hired that year? lol

      • GoBirds1

        Really all of them since the still have jobs!!!! One off the top of my Head Bruce Arians, he seems to be doing a bang up job. Likewise Zimmerman in Minnesota

        • KAO

          Zimmerman is only 2 years in. Arians hey not gonna argue there he felt jaded for not getting an interview so blame Howie and Luire for that….

      • Will

        Bruce Arians and his staff which are in the play offs and have a winning record of 13-2 this year a mark Chip Kelly never reached..

    • Kev_H

      I think Howie is more deeply cemented as Lurie’s de facto son. Chip was clearly lying in 2013 (and today as a coaching free agent) when he said he just wanted to coach. Chip veered away from what Lurie and Roseman were thinking and I suspect that rather than fight Chip’s new vision last year, Lurie and Roseman collaborated (wisely in my opinion) to give Kelly everything he wanted, but keep him on a short leash so he couldn’t do too much damage if he failed.

      So many fans on here, and reporters, failed to recognize the role of Roseman and the significance that he was neither canned, nor did he move on, after last winter. Nothing explains that better than the short-leash scenario I’ve been describing all year. Lurie and Roseman are tight and had a vision of how things should be, Chip played along and when things started to falter (2014 collapse) he likely started making excuses (we’ve seen this all season, it’s something he does. It’s never him, it’s always them). So they collectively gave him everything he wanted and supported it 100 percent, but were at the ready to step in and reestablish the preferred order if things went bad.

      • Rob Jarratt

        Very good insight, IMO, Kev. It is telling about Roseman’s status that he is part of the troika doing the HC search. There is no talk yet about a GM search. My guess is that there won’t be, because Roseman will serve that function. I’m OK with it as long as he has a solid scouting and personnel department and listens to and works with his head coach. Roseman isn’t going anywhere. He is the Joe Banner of the current edition of the Eagles. It’s a fact that we have to get used to once again.

        The Eagles should never again entrust their coaching and GM-ing to one person. It is crazy to think that a single individual can function at a high level with both titles in today’s NFL. Belichik and Carroll are outliers.

        Frankly, I am tired of all the Roseman bashing. Le’t get on with the search and hire and see how the chips fall, as it were.

      • paul from nc

        Kev, I agree with most of that. However, not the “short leash” scenario. He was allowed to trade Foles for a possible upgrade and McCoy for Kiko. Those are very risky moves for oft injured players, that Lurie let him make. There were so many other risky decisions that ultimately set back the team and removed most of the playmakers, that you can’t say he had a short leash. He was more like a mad scientist that blew up the lab.
        I give Lurie credit for making this move, and see a complete rebuilding for a few years.

        • Kev_H

          By short leash I meant he wasn’t going to be patient waiting for results. He didn’t undermine Kelly’s 2015 season 1 iota.

      • Blaqjaq

        Not sure that Chip was lying in 2013, but I’ll bet that he quickly discovered that he couldn’t work with Howie and lobbied to get him out of personnel. Of course Chip turned out to be worse.

        • Kev_H

          Maybe not lying but then clearly not understanding what a culture of open collaboration and teamwork is. I’m not saying Luries idea of organizational behavior is necessarily the way to go, but he’s always been pretty clear regarding how he wants things run.

    • OldDocNewSeason

      Howie should never have been kept around. Once you have a power struggle like that you need to make a clean break from the loser.

      Chip made more than enough mistakes to lose his job, but Howie, being an odious little weasel who thrives on leaks and politics, would have gone out of his way to make the working environment an unhealthy one.

      Besides which, there really isn’t much evidence to suggest he’s any good at evaluating talent. I can understand people being happy that Chip’s gone, but the resurresction of Howie is not cause for celebration.

      • Bullwinkle

        Agree, I don’t think Howie plays well with others and he certainly isn’t the best qualified person available around the NFL. Lurie needs new leadership in all areas.

        • OldDocNewSeason

          Concur. Never liked the trend for firing coaches while retaining the guys who employed them in the first place.

          Howie hired Chip. What’s to say he’ll do better now? Because he learned from his mistakes? Why is that an option for Howie, but not Chip, ManOwits, or Gamble?

          Clean house and start again. Howie’s 86ing is overdue.

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  • EuropeanEagle

    Can anyone confirm they had to bring an assistant coach in Lurie’s office , to explain Kelly he was getting fired , with meaningless hand signals and a Peter Griffin board?

  • Kev_H

    It went down kind of like I thought it would this year. Lurie wasn’t all in with Kelly. Kelly put a gun to his head last year, Lurie gave him everything he wanted and let him sink or swim and was all too happy to ditch Kelly. Roseman wasn’t kept on with a raise for nothing, in fact, I expect it was his idea. They would have been happy to win with Chip. When push came to shove they gave the coach everything he wanted and then held him to his own standards. Good riddance!

  • furiousxgeorge

    We will never forget you Skip Kelly!

  • Sam Bradfords Chicken Legs

    RIP Chipwagon

  • Sam Bradfords Chicken Legs

    Ryan Day and Josh Huff are like FML :(

    Taylor Hart anyone?

    My god this team is a mess…..

    • OldDocNewSeason

      Ironically, I think Huff was one of the players misused most, but I admit to being a bit of a Huff cheerleader (Huff-fluffer? Huffer?).

      Hart’s a serviceable 3-4 end. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t find a home.

      Guys that should be more worried IMO are Cooper, Celek, Reynolds, Jaylen and pretty much any OL not called Johnson or Kelce.

      • Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

        I think everyone is going to be evaluated not named lane Johnson, Fletcher Cox, Jordan Hicks

  • Stillbleedgreen

    No matter who the New HC is we don’t have a QB!!! Welcome to NFL Hell!!! It going to take another 3yrs to turn this roster around!!! Also forget what the media is selling the only HC that will have immediate success within 2 yr is Sean Payton if he released!! Chip needed one more year at least to fix the mess he made this year. Now we are going to be basement dwellers for at least 5 yrs!! I still blame this on Reid/Howie and their terrible drafting after Rhodes guys got old

  • john King

    So, the common denominator of the Lurid failure is still here. Who will fire Lurid?

  • Will

    Tim & Josh who is on the short list for interviews for the Eagles HC job? Thanks guys for all you do!

  • Turkell

    Just say a big NO to elevating Howie Rosebud back to GM. Been there, done that. We don’t need a fantasy football bean counter as GM.

  • DrFeelgood

    great ballsy move by an owner that has grown up…..today is a great day in eagle land..goodbye college fraud….remember we hate you always

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    I sure wish the coaching search were being conducted by a new GM…

  • JT

    Can we get Andy Reid back? Then he can sign McNabb, since he’s out of DUI school, bring in Terrell Owens and we’re back to the Super Bowl.

  • PhillySouth

    Was Kelly really that hard to deal with as a coach? I don’t see any specifics behind the claims. ‘Key veterans has issues….’, ‘ was viewed in some corners as difficult to deal with’. Who and when? I don’t count comments made by players that were let go.

  • DEKSOFT

    The first thing Laurie needs to do is get rid of the racist mediocre wide receiver Riley Cooper. That will send a huge signal to the players.

  • uknome

    Howie do not hire Josh Mc Daniel!!! No one would want to come here I wouldn’t be surprised if he had to hire Shurmur