Wake-Up Call: Polk Feeling the Heat

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Chris Polk told reporters Tuesday that his hamstring is not 100 percent healed and that he doesn’t feel very confident in the leg at the moment. In the next breath, he said he would be practicing next week.

Such is the life of a player on the fringe.




Polk suffered a Grade 2 hamstring strain, or partial tear, on the second day of training camp. He heard a pop while making a hard cut and the hammy tightened up on him.

"I just felt like my world ended that day," he said.

Polk has been unable to get back onto the practice field since.  Time is running out to convince the coaching staff that he deserves to be kept on the 53-man, as the final cuts are just 10 days away. Does he feel like his status is in jeopardy?

"Yeah," he responded after a moment of thought. "There is nothing guaranteed. I wasn't drafted. I'm not LeSean McCoy, Nick Foles. I'm not guaranteed anything."

Those comments came hours before the Eagles acquired Kenjon Barner from the Panthers for a conditional seventh-round pick.

The Eagles are trying to figure out how to round out their running back corps. They entered the offseason high on Polk after he averaged 8.9 yards per rushing attempt and scored three times in limited reps last year, but he's been unable to go. Matthew Tucker and David Fluellen also missed the Patriots game, leaving Henry Josey and even Damaris Johnson to carry the load down the stretch.

"We need to see who is going to go and who is going to be able to play," said Chip Kelly. "But we can't evaluate anybody if they're not going to play in games or in practice."

Barner gives the Eagles another option at running back and potentially as a kick returner should Josh Huff (shoulder) miss extended time.

As friend of the blog Sam Lynch points out, both Polk and Barner are eligible for the new two-year practice squad spots.

The big question about Polk is durability. He has had a pair of shoulder surgeries over his young career -- one in college and another this offseason. The 24-year old says he stayed in Philadelphia during the team's downtime and trained/rehabbed every day from 6 a.m. to 2 p.m., and was feeling good before the setback. He knows that some people consider him injury-prone, and is anxious to prove them wrong.

But for the moment, there is an injury -- one that will keep him out of his third straight preseason game. Ready or not, he has to go out next week and make his presence felt, especially now that reinforcements have been brought in.

"Got to. Got to," he said. "Even if I'm not [100 percent] I'm still going for it. I missed too much. Even if it's not full speed I have to show them that, hey, I'm here. So I'm going to do it."

WHAT YOU MISSED

Sheil with more on the Barner trade.

Prior to this move, the Eagles released linebacker Jason Phillips. 

"Some days he's great out there and there are other days he's not so great." Kelly downplays LeSean McCoy injury.

One head coach bristled a bit when it was suggested that he was imitating some changes Kelly brought to the NFL.

"I could go ahead and play receiver if they are going to do all that." Reality of new rule emphasis sinking in for Eagles. 

Kapadia on what life is like for Marcus Smith at the moment.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Is Alex Henery in jeopardy of losing his job? Could be.

Jimmy Kempski has Arrelious Benn making the team in his latest roster projection. As for Josh Huff?

The big question mark now is Huff, who has an AC sprain in his shoulder, with no timetable on a return. Huff had a nice kickoff return for a TD in the first preseason game with the help of an enormous lane to run through, but he has not looked comfortable at all at receiver throughout training camp. The injury aside, Huff may not be ready to play receiver in the NFL yet, and I'm unconvinced he should take up a roster spot solely as a kick returner. This is a situation in which the Eagles could "red shirt" Huff by placing him on IR.

As for Maehl and Benn, the big knock on Benn is that he struggles to stay healthy. He has not missed a day of camp yet, and has done a lot of little things well at receiver and on special teams. Maehl, meanwhile, has missed time and had a careless fumble against the Pats.

COMING UP

Down day at the NovaCare but not here. Sheil has a Brent Celek piece in the works.

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  • jmkrav

    What about PUP for either Huff or Polk?

    • JosephR2225

      My understanding is that once a player participates in any training camp activities they are ineligible for the PUP list, so neither guy would qualify.
      There’s also the IR Designated to Return list, which either player (but not both) would be eligible for. That allows a team to place one player per season on IR and bring him back later in the season, but he must be on IR for at least 8 weeks and can begin practicing after 6 weeks.

      • Johnny Domino

        Huff needs some time off, either IR is likely. Fuel for the Momah train.
        Polk is likely just done, barring a great night Thursday IMO.

  • NickS, Combine Warrior

    Encouraging that we’re at least looking out for some kickers… Kind of feel badly for Polk. The kid did well in the limited time he got last year and seemed to grasp the O. However, hard to keep the injury prone label off of him at this point. Wonder if it’s time to move on and let him find his way on another team.

    • JosephR2225

      He was always one of those guys I liked without any real good reason to. I suppose I just liked that he was a straight-ahead runner, which the Eagles don’t really have. If he doesn’t make the team, I hope it’s not because of the hamstring. That would be a shame.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Wouldn’t just be the hamstring, but the combination of all the injuries from college-present. Tough call, but you can’t limit other guys to wait for the guy to get out of the locker room. Unless that guy is Shady.

    • Eagles1018…Please no more du

      I’ve been jawing about a kicker since right after the saints game so yes thank goodness. And while most guys on this blog scouted for linebackers, safeties and WRs during the draft season, I also scouted kickers. Murderleg was nowhere on my radar. But either way I’m gonna be hard to convince that noodle jock is the guy at kicker for us going forward. There has to be someone better. Or at least bring in better competition. Football is a game of inches and that includes kicks….

  • NickS, Combine Warrior

    Wow, now Goodell is apparently going to try to ask for the SB acts to pay the league for the time in the spotlight. Maybe he forgot how the arrangement is supposed to work..

    • Johnny Domino
      • anon

        sounds funny in theory but it’d be terrible in practice.

        • Rellihcs

          What punching Goodell?

        • Johnny Domino

          C’mon, you could get Rihanna, Katy Perry, and Coldplay all in one show. Or at least the Weird-Alified renditions of their hits.
          At least as interesting as the actual performers.

    • knighn

      The more I see and hear about Goodell the more I just want to punch him in the face. He totally blew the Ray Rice situation. 2 games?! Really?! So, it’s really worse to do drugs than beat your woman, right Roger?!

      Now let’s look at the Super Bowl half-time situation. I confirmed your statement:
      http://nesn.com/2014/08/report-nfl-considering-three-acts-for-super-bowl-halftime-show/

      So, let’s see: the NFL wants someone so desperate for the spotlight that the performer will have to PAY for the right to perform at the Super Bowl?!?! Say goodbye to legendary half-time performers.

      I couldn’t figure out why the NFL had someone as low-profile as Bruno Mars as their headliner. The “backup band”, the Red Hot Chili Peppers would have made a lot more sense as the headliner. Sure, Mars is a “nice” performer but he was in no way on the level of some of the legendary performers who have graced the stage:
      Janet Jackson
      Michael Jackson
      U2
      Paul McCartney
      The Rolling Stones
      Prince
      Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
      Madonna
      Bruce Springsteen
      The Who
      Beyoncé

      Turns out the NFL was just checking out how fans would respond to lesser entertainment. Don’t get me wrong: Mars put on a good show, but neither his musical portfolio nor his history puts him anywhere near some of the legends who have graced that stage.

      Based on the NESN article, the NFL is looking at Rihanna, Katy Perry and Coldplay as their top three choices. Let’s see how these three higher-profile performers like the “Pay To Play” idea that Roger NoGood has in mind. I also think it’s ironic that the NFL is considering Rihanna after so blowing Ray Rice’s domestic abuse situation.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Mars is a showman and he killed it. Definitely not lesser talent…. Agree w/ the rest, though.

        • knighn

          Mars is one of the best young showmen out there and his performance was quite impressive. However:
          He has not established himself anywhere near the level of the other performers. He simply isn’t as well known and his music, thus far, doesn’t seem like it will have near the longevity and long-reaching impact of the other performers’ music.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Isn’t well known? That’s a really dumb statement. You don’t know him well, and that’s fine. He’s better than most of the acts you failed to mention. I agree he’s not legendary like most of the acts you mentioned, but he’s WELL on his way. He might not have the long reaching impact on you, but there’s a whole generation(s) younger than us upon whom it will have a long reaching impact.

      • Johnny Domino

        Punch Roger and I bet you get more than 2 games.

      • aub32

        The punishment for drug use was defined in the CBA. There was nothing set in place for Rice’s actions. So the two comparable. I am not saying whether the punishment was fair or not. I did not see what happened in the elevator. I do know that Goodell was the only person who punished Rice, when neither the team or the law saw fit to do so.

        On your main point, the idea the NFL wants top superstars to pay for the chance to perform at the SB is beyond bonkers.

      • MagatBrackendale

        The biggest beef I have with the half-time entertainment is that it heavily favors classic rock. I would have loved to see the Temptations or the O’Jays on the list too.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        You’re right, he didn’t have the music portfolio of the ones you mentioned. But neither did Kid Rock, Nelly, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Enrique Iglesias, or No Doubt, when all of these acts performed, nor did most of the acts that performed at the SB for the first 20 some years of the event. So, he’s far from lesser entertainment when you consider some of the acts you didn’t include. Moreover, in the 4yrs since he’s been mainstream, he’s got 5 #1 hits and a bunch more top 10. Often compared to Michael Jackson in terms of his showmanship quality. I think “lesser talent” is bold.

        • knighn

          Wow. You’re taking the whole Bruno Mars thing personally. Let me be honest here: some kid could be a legend in the making but if he’s only been on the scene a few years I’m not as impressed. None of the acts you mentioned were the headliners in their respective half-time shows.

    • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

      Honestly, I’m beginning to think that Tagliabue was SO good that Goodell has conceded that he’ll never touch Tagliabue. So Goodell is just going to be the worst commissioner ever and leave it there.

  • JofreyRice

    For me, the prospect of shelving Huff for a year–partially because of the injury, partially because he’s just not ready–is more disappointing than adding another Duck for a conditional 7th rounder. I don’t think the roster is really good enough for that kind of thing…and to do it with a guy many considered a reach. Still would have preferred they took Moncrief, just on athletic upside alone.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      where are you getting shelving Huff for the year? read he wants to be back by week1. one thing Huff is, is tough. he’ll play thru some pain. think fans are getting into real bad habit of calling rookies too early. maybe not wait the old ‘3 yrs’ but at least let them get into 2nd. look at Ertz, he looks like cant miss top5 TE and a yr ago couldnt catch a cold.

      • JofreyRice

        What Kempski’s saying above: “This is a situation in which the Eagles could “red shirt” Huff by placing him on IR.”. Yeah, maybe Huff ends up good, but I started from the point of not liking the pick, and nothing has really changed my view, yet. I love Kelly’s offensive mind, and I think he finds ways to get guys into positions where they’re open/can do damage, but that doesn’t mean I’m automatically co-signing every pick they make, if it’s a guy I don’t think highly of. Everyone likes to compare Kelly to that guy up in New England, well, Belichick is one of the best coaches of all time, and he’s made some horrendous draft picks.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          drafting isnt 100% deal. they all make mistakes. if Huff doesnt pan out, he doesnt pan out…it happens all the time. if all Huff becomes is 3rd/4th WR, that’s fine. certainly not you, but some people need a reality check on what is and isnt a good draft, and how long rookies need. very few rookies walk into nfl camp and stand out. guy was a 3rd rdr for a reason.
          .
          and Kempski also is talking about carring 2 kickers. he got D-jax, i’ll give him credit there. but for info or opinion, nawh. his niche is comic relief.

          • JofreyRice

            I guess. You know I dislike the overall picture of what they did with WR. If adding a 3rd round guy was supposed to make that picture better, then it bothers me even more if they essentially red-shirt him.

            To reach for a guy that everyone knew was a reach, and then have him flop is a movie we’ve seen before; not saying that’s a foregone conclusion, but it’s the concern. Picking guys that don’t pan out happens, and Moncrief could very well end up being a nothing, but the physical talent and upside were there with him. To me, I’d rather miss on those guys than former Ducks that are sort of low-ceiling “system” guys.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            easy to be down on WRs right now, top 2 havent played, and JMatt was being taught slot and was forced outside in first game. 2nd, got back into slot, he looked about as good as a rookie can.

          • Rellihcs

            Yeah, and by the standards people are judging by around here Sammy Watkins is a big bust.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t follow the Bills, but if you watched Sammy Watkins at Clemson, you’d have plenty of reason to have faith that he’s just experiencing some growing pains and will figure it out. It’s also tough with their QB situation up there.

          • Rellihcs

            I was being sarcastic. But that’s the point, too early to tell so its silly to try to project off of weak info to base projecttions.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            but more refreshing than slurping every move the FO makes. Unlike Token, I’m very encouraged about some of the draft picks they’ve made in the last few years. Let’s not pretend they’re batting 1.000

            plenty of suspect moves

          • aub32

            Exactly. People aren’t calling Huff and Smith projects because of what we saw in 2 preseason games. They were touted as projects when they were drafted. Then camp started and fans kept buying into the hype and thinking these guys are going to turn out to be ready to go by day one and contribute. I saw one fan post how Huff would have Mac’s job by the end of the season. Now we are seeing these guys struggle in game action, and it reaffirms that these guys are not NFL ready and all that hype was silly, like Kelly stated.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            You know I was down on the Huff pick when they made it. Was encouraged by the return TD, discouraged by some of the bad return decisions, but thought MAYBE we had a playmaker back there. Smith was a guy we talked about here ad nauseam before the draft as a 3rd round possibility (didn’t pull that out of thin air, that’s where most people had him going).

            Really like Matthews, Watkins (little raw as expected), Hart. Pleasantly surprised by Allen.

          • aub32

            That is all fair. My problem is with some fans accusing people of being doom and gloom for saying what they were saying right after the draft. This is what happens when fans buy into draft and camp hype then choose to blow off what they see in preseason because the games don’t count. I am not really a fan of the Huff pick and have been saying he won’t see much of the field in year 1 since the day we drafted him. I get the Smith pick. I am not unhappy with it, because the draft was not very deep with 3-4 OLBs. My main gripe is that they should have traded up or brought in a stop gap player if they were content with drafting a project in the first round.

          • Kleptolia

            I like Huff, because homerism. But I also know he’s a good player. I don’t expect him to light the NFL on fire, but I think he can be a contributor.
            The draft is such a best guess scenario that I have difficulties understanding why people get so emotionally involved in it. Terrell Davis was a 6th rounder. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Joey Harrington and Akili Smith were both #3 picks.
            You can’t “grade” a draft class until 3 years after the fact and, by then, does anybody care anymore?
            I am interested to see what happens with all of this year’s rookies, whether from Oregon or elsewhere.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Ha. well you’re talking to a bunch of guys who obsess over the draft, so yeah.

            Chippa can minimize it all he wants. Deep down, he knows that teams win through successful drafts. The examples you mentioned are formative – hitting on mid round pics can win teams Superbowls (Pats, Broncos). Missing badly, especially under the old rookie wage scale, hamstrung teams for 4-5 years.

            If you want to say that we can’t 100% say what any of these players will do in their career. Absolutely. I don’t think anyone here will argue that. What I disagree with is the draft strategy.

          • Kleptolia

            I can understand that. I said when Chip came to the Eagles that he will do some amazing things and some things that make you scratch your head. This is true on gameday as well as in the offseason.
            One thing that I don’t think has been emphasized enough in the media and elsewhere is how important trust and comfort are to Chip Kelly. I believe that one reason he keeps bringing in Oregon guys is that it is important for his own personal comfort level.
            If Chip trusts a guy, he will want to keep that guy. It’s not every Oregon player that Chip wants; it’s a select number of guys that Chip wants.
            Barner is a Chip Kelly guy. He has no off-field issues. He loves football nearly as much as Chip. He is a quick learner. The same traits can all be attributed to the other Oregon guys on the roster.
            Having those guys on the team is a sort of security for Chip Kelly, I think. The man is really selective in who he calls a friend.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            a 6 game improvement in year 1 earns you a little leeway. I just hope we don’t enter the next offseason talking about the same needs as this past offseason.

          • Kleptolia

            Unfortunately, I think some of the same needs will be there. Until Chip gets his offensive pieces in place exactly as he wants, he will do just enough for the defense to make it functional. After that, he will shore up the defense.
            His drafting of Smith, Hart, Allen, and Watkins does reflect his interest in making the defense functional.
            Also, he is setting up Brandon Bair on the D-line. I know Bair is old for a 2nd year guy, and yes, he’s from Oregon, but he is a good 2 gap player. He is long and yet still manages to maintain his leverage.
            Smith will develop. He has the tools. You could see his speed at times in the Pats game.
            All of these pieces will come together. What isn’t certain is how effectively they will perform in the end.
            I am optimistic, though. The guys from Oregon that Chip has brought in are truly some of the most talented, not only from Oregon, but the Pac-12 as a whole.
            I think the defense will perform well. I think the offense will look a step slower at the beginning of the season due to injuries and Lane Johnson’s suspension (that guy is already so important to the offensive line), but will come alive after week 4.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            where does the pass rush come from?

          • Kleptolia

            Blitzes and stunts, mostly. Make no mistake, Bair and Hart can get after the QB when needed. Obviously, so can Thornton, Cox, Logan, Cole, etc.
            Don’t mistake what you’ve seen in preseason for what this defense is about.
            The lineman seem to have mostly been playing containment schemes, from what I’ve seen. Probably for 2-gap eval purposes.
            I am not even sure that they will pull out the real packages for this next game. You might have to wait for the regular season to see what the full blitz and rush packages are.
            Of course, maybe they are just really bad at rushing the passer. :-)

          • JofreyRice

            Right, but part of the picture is that they released Jackson and pushed in Chips on Cooper, who’s got one year of legit production, and Maclin, returning from an ACL. Again, that’s pretty consistent with how I’ve viewed the thing all along. Don’t like it. Haven’t liked it.

            If Maclin was what everyone *hoped* he was, and was healthy, I’d feel better. Again, he’s not doing anything to make his critics re-think their positions.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            no arguement here. i would have gone another yr w/ jax, but kelly must not of liked him ALOT.
            .
            not like the Eags play like a DET, figure shady and sproles will get 450 touches combined and Ertz/Celek get 125.

          • aub32

            Should the team be absolved of blame for not thinking there’s a chance Mac wouldn’t be ready to go?

            I can’t excuse those drops because he was playing on the outside. Matt should have caught those passes. I was very pleased with how he came back though.

          • Token

            I think Kempski tends to be more on the mark then not. Certainly better then Lawlor.

            And yea not all picks turn out. You just need to hit on more then you dont. Thats the Eagles problem.

            Players from 2012
            Foles – Will he be a legit franchise QB? If so amazing pick

            Cox – Should be better. Think he leaves to go to 4-3 where he can flourish

            Boykin – He will leave

            Kendricks – He will get overpaid. Will the light ever come on?

            2013
            LJ – PED help explain his after season rise up the draft boards. Hard to tell right now what he will be.

            Ertz – Hes gotta be the stud everyone is hoping for this year

            Logan – A 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT playing out of position at NT. Wont ever be all that good there.

            2014
            Marcus Smith – longterm project. Maybe a Barwin replacement someday.

            Matthews – Who knows. May end up being their best pick this year.

            Huff – Just not ready for the NFL. Let alone a 3rd rounder. Project

            Watkins – I kinda thought he would come in and contribute right away but so far he looks like a bit of a project.

            Beau Allen along with Matthews may be the only contributors of the class this year.

            Its hard to look at their draft and be thrilled. The reason this team has zero depth and little top end talent is because the Eagles havent exactly been nailing the draft for a long time now.

          • aub32

            I really like some of your points. I disagree with others. Boykin, Cox, and Kendricks were all drafted for a different scheme. If we were running a 4-3 then those guys likely stay and are good to really good players (this of course assumes MK is better suited for 4-3, which I think he would make a good WILL)

            The 2013 & 2014 picks are not bad. There are just more projects than I think this team needs. I think it’s far too early to ride off any player at this point. This just points to how the team should have done more in FA to bring in stop gap players while guys like Huff, Hart, and Watkins develop.

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            Not paying attention…… It’s never to early to write a player off!

    • Token

      They cant afford to waste a 3rd rounder like that. They basically threw away this years 1st and 3rd round picks as far as getting production in 2014 goes. They arent good enough to be doing that.

      Hopefully Huff wont be IRed. I look at him as possibly helping on KR while maybe contributing as a WR as the season goes on. I cant imagine hes a worse option then Momah or DJ even if hes not really ready. But he does have a ways to go to be worth a 3rd rounder. You need to be getting solid players in the 1st 3 rounds. Your core.

      This was another obvious Oregon play. I wonder what Howie thinks about having zero control. I mean, Howie is terrible in his own right. But I think it must be a funny dynamic going on at NovaCare. Chip bringing up another former duck every week.

      • Rellihcs

        So you really are that arrogant to claim to know what smith will/won’t do his entire rookie year before it began. Wow. And you seem to agree that the Birdz aren’t likely superbowl contenders this year, but you then think their plan of action should be to try to win it this year as oppossed to developing talent to be ready when they have more pieces on the roster. That’s pretty backwards thinking.

        By your standards for judging a draft, you’d be hard pressed to find a single team in NFL history that ever had a single draft that satisfies you. Think about that one…

        • Token

          Smith, yea pretty much. Players dont generally look that bad and go on to have awesome first years. Hes a project. He needs time. Im all for developing talent if they had some to develop. They needed to be focused on upgrading the overall talent on the roster. Instead they stood pat, added some ST guys and expect coaching to improve everyone. We will see if that path was the right one.

          • Rellihcs

            So you’re certain right now that he won’t hit home on some sacks and quality coverage plays in games 8-16 with Davis actually scheming to his advantage this year? Because of 2 preseason games?

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            He knows more than you.

          • Token

            Yes thats what I think. Hes a fish out of water right now. That doesnt just go away in a few weeks.

        • aub32

          I think you may be missing his point. I don’t think it’s unfair to want your top draft pick to come in and be a big contributor from day one. Think of how much hype the draft gets. Do you think all those fans are excited and doing mock drafts to find out that their team drafted a backup. Look around the league. Outside of the QB position, how many first round picks are designated backups before the season even starts? To make matters worse, he is supposed to be the answer for our biggest need as a team, passrush. So if he’s the backup and not even learning to rush the passer, then the team essentially ignored improving a below average pass rush. So what Token is basically saying is that this team is not so talented in the front 7 that they can afford the luxury of taking a project player with their first pick. That’s not saying he won’t develop years down the road. However, if that was the plan then something more should have been done in FA.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I’d argue that they’re not so talented that they can afford to take anyone other than the guy they think will have the best career.

          • aub32

            That’s a fair point. Then they should have done more in FA if they were willing to take projects with 2 of their top 3 picks. I think many of us expected the draft to yield NFL ready players since the team has holes and chose not to fill them in FA.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            And I think we understand by now why the team wasn’t more aggessive in FA (organizational philosophy). Whether we agree with it or not is another matter.

          • aub32

            Agreed. I think those who do not agree with it have the right to voice their disdain whenever relevant, because I know good and well if this defense turns out to be top 8 that I and others will never hear the end of it. Seeing how far away Smith is from being ready gives those who were against the pick or at least didn’t think he was enough to consider the pass rush upgraded from what we saw last year reason to beat on their chest a little.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Top 8? I consider myself rather optimistic and I’m hoping for top-16.

          • aub32

            I said top 8 because then optimists would really have the “I told you so” card. If they are 16, then neither side can really claim victory. Well, they can, but they will both just stick to their own preconceived notion.

          • Rellihcs

            Interesting take. But you do realize, and I believe some guy named CHIP said this, that all that draft hype is there for financial reasons, and it doesn’t necessarily justify or correlate to reality in terms of data from the league/history/facts. You look around the lleague – the answer is most.

            and there were Very few viable options ifee agency. Rememer, we need 3-4 olb who can cover reliablyThat is an incredibly specific thing to find in slim pickings free agency/top rounds of draf.

          • aub32

            Hype is definitely financially driven, but that doesn’t change the fact that most 1st round picks start in their rookie season. Now whether or not most contribute can certainly be debated. However, it’s not very often a team drafts an OLB in the first round only to bench him. The Steelers do it, but that’s because they have earned that luxury, and even they are learning that rookies need to contribute and start in year one, see Shazier.

            There are never going to be 5 or 6 stud pass rushers available in FA. However, there were guys available that fit Kelly’s measurable and can cover at least as well as Cole while providing more of a pass rush. Would we be overpaying a stopgap guy? Yes, but I thought the point of having cap room was to improve the team.

          • Rellihcs

            Funny you mention the Steelers, that’s the closest comparison to our defense… so that points to us doing the right thing. Usually the teams that start rooks are drafting high cause they sucked. We didn’t draft high notice, because we didn’t suck. Who were the free agents you speak of?

            I generally agree about cap room, but we gotta save it forr (maybe) , foles, boykin, mac, or another wr next year…ol…etc

          • aub32

            Sorry but I really don’t feel like getting into FA names today. I have had that debate before and it usually turns into how fans view players that went elsewhere.

            Copying the Steelers does not mean we are doing things the right way. They haven’t made the playoffs the last two years. Perhaps if they didn’t wait so long to inject some youth into their defense it wouldn’t have been so bad last year. Jarvis Jones might have been able to do what Woodley couldn’t last year. Also, there were teams who drafted after us that added day one starters. So the argument we drafted late doesn’t amount to much.

          • Rellihcs

            OK. We can agree to disagree. But I still say there is little correlation between “starting right away” and quality.

      • JofreyRice

        If the scenario pans out that they ended up reaching for lower-ceiling guys that could contribute right away because of supposed skill set/scheme familiarity, and those guys don’t end up contributing at all, it’s going to bother me.

        • Token

          I cant sound like a DeSean backer. But the idea that the WR corp could have been Jackson – Maclin – Cooper – Matthews – Huff and now its Maclin – Cooper – Matthews – Momah isnt great. They had no plan with all of this. I still am of the belief that Maclin could put up numbers in this system, but there is no denying how injury prone that guy is. You just cant count on him to play on Sundays.

          It leaves the possibility for having this lineup on various sundays throughout the season…..

          Maclin or Cooper – Matthews – Momah – Benn – ?

          • Rellihcs

            Right, because we’re a pass first team with no weapons at RB or TE. We rely on WRs and struggled mightly with Riley Cooper and Avant as 2 and 3 last year to put up points….

          • JofreyRice

            It doesn’t seem to follow that we should cheer downgrades to our wide receiver corps because we’re not a pass first offense. Shouldn’t we want to maximize the talent on the roster?

          • eaglesfan, 20-win failure

            definitely but Rellihcs makes a decent (if mildly aggressive) point. having the best RB in the league will smooth out some of these wrinkles. While the WR corps looks rough now, knowing that you have Shady, Ertz, Celek, & Sproles should make whatever WR’s we throw out there compliment the offense well enough to put up points. fans overvalue the importance of individual WR’s. When did Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, or AJ Green win a super bowl last? Good question for Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate…

          • aub32

            Winning a SB takes more than one WR, especially since the guy cannot throw it to himself. Fitz got the cards to a SB when he had a QB. The Falcons with Jones were a few play away from the SB. Without Jones they were a bottom 10 team. Green has helped that team make it to 3 straight playoffs. It’s not his fault Dalton plays like Gabbert in the post season. DET was poorly coached. We saw what that does in 2012. My point is that having a #1 WR does not hurt a team’s chances of winning, which seems to be what you are implying. We are an offense first team. We aren’t going to win very many games based on our pass rush being dominant (NYG, BAL, SEA). So I think it’s reasonable for fans of an offense driven team to want talented WRs.

          • eaglesfan, 20-win failure

            I’m not saying a great WR hurts a teams chances, but that the importance of an individual player is often overvalued. (the Falcons pre-Julio had a Pro Bowl Roddy White on their bottom 10 team). There are a number of factors that go into a contending team and having a standout WR isn’t necessarily the only way to get there, particularly when you have a marquis RB and an innovative coach. my point was that fans tend to expect coaches to build an All Madden team and when they inevitably plug in a mid-tier player they act like the sky is falling. this team has multiple weapons and the BEST back in football. that being said, I certainly agree the panic button should be pushed on our pass rush.

          • aub32

            I don’t think the gripe is due to us not having a Marshall and Jeffery like combo on the outside. The team went into camp relying on a #2 WR coming off an ACL injury, a guy with one good year, 2 rookies, and a JAG. The problem is that they had a proven #1 WR who they cut. I don’t want to make this about Jax. You’re right that every position can’t look like the Madden NFC All Stars team, but there’s reason to knock the front office when you downgrade at a position of strength and make it become a position full of question marks.

          • MagatBrackendale

            Really? Who is putting in the question marks? Not the team. The media who have daily quotas to meet and some commenters such as yourself.

          • aub32

            I wish I could like this a dozen times over. I think what some fans are missing is the team didn’t have to downgrade. We weren’t facing cap issues. No one is saying this offense will be in the bottom third. However, it definitely downgraded at the WR position. It’s ok to acknowledge that rather than ignoring the facts and repeating :Chip knows best”.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Well, that’s where we get in to resource allocation and then you correctly point out that we’re not exactly using those extra resources and then we’re left to wonder when and how those resources will pay off down the line since they do roll forward.

            It’s certainly fair to say we’d be a better team with Jaccson this year because his presence wouldn’t have prevented adding anything. And I think it’s clear that as much as Kelly preaches ‘win the day’, the organization thinks that the long term goal of winning the Super Bowl is more important than winning an extra game this year and that goal is better served by the move they made for the combination of factors we’ve discussed once or twice before. At least I think we’ve discussed them. The DJ move really hasn’t come up on this blog very often. :)

          • aub32

            What if that one extra game is the NFC Championship?

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            What if it isn’t?

          • aub32

            I guess we will see this year. It should be pretty evident whether the loss of DJax was a significant blow to this offense or not.

          • MagatBrackendale

            No! No! No! Not again……

      • Rellihcs

        I know I’m feeding the negadelphians (and hence ignoring the sign that specifically warns against doing so). But “can’t afford to waste a 3rd rounder”…. what do you mean can’t afford? If huff sits out this year and returns next year healthy and produces at WR and/or returner for a few years, solid production, what exactly about that involves not affording something? It’ll hurt the chances of an Eagles SB win this year? That’s what you drarft a 3rd rounder to do? Win the SB in his rookie year?

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          He’s not an All-Pro yet, that’s the problem.

          • Rellihcs

            It’s all clear now.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            its not encouraging to see your 1st round pick grade out as the worst guy on the field, even when playing against backups. Not really Smith’s fault – he didn’t pick himself in the 1st round. And who knows? He may turn into a very good player down the road.

            Problem is, when you enter the off season with a #1 glaring weakness. Then you ignore that position in FA. Then you reach in the draft at that position. It raises expectations.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’d agree, but there were not many options to fill the need via FA.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            No, I don’t think there were either. But there were some pass rushers at OLB in the draft, and even though we reached for an OLB, we didn’t solve the pass rush thing. That’s what’s most disappointing.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I agree. Know you liked you some Dee Ford but all you’d hear is that he’s not a scheme fit. Not sure what to tell you. All we can do is sit back and see how Smith develops and hope he becomes a player. We weren’t in a great situation in terms of draft position to really luck out and get a good pass rush who had the ability to cover. Which is why I was hoping we’d trade up to #5 and get Mack should he have fallen, which he did.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            Pass rush has to come from somewhere. I would have liked Louis Nix in the 3rd. ATAT. Demarcus Lawrence. Prince Shembo. An ILB with pass rushing skills to complement Kendricks. Something. We didn’t draft or sign a single pass rusher.

            But yeah – Dee Ford was my number one guy out of who was left.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Any word on how any of those guys are doing thus far? Would Token have been happy with them or would they be busts, already?

        • Token

          SB was never a possibility. But wasting 1st and 3rd rounders on a team that isnt that talented to begin with hurts your chances of getting 8 wins IMO. They cant afford to do that. Id think if you are reaching for guys they should at least be able to play but maybe have a smaller upside. You cant reach in the high rounds for longterm project players.

          • Rellihcs

            Look obviously you and I see things a bit differently. I just can’t get over the humor in you criticizing “reaching” while basing your argument off of what can only be objectively viewed as baseless “jumping to conclusion assumptions” (which can be more concisely called “reaches”). You’re hating on “reaching” by being the champ of “reaching”. FACT – you nor I know nothing about what Smith and Huff (and Mathews…the list goes on) will do this year. PERIOD. But you’re already talking like you do.

          • Token

            Well none of us really KNOW anything about what anyone will do. But I like to have opinions. Some just prefer not to have them. Much easier to just judge others.

          • Adam G

            Opinions are a lot different than claims that infer you KNOW what the future will entail instead of guessing or predicting.

    • Philly0312

      I personally think Kempski is wrong on this one. Huff looked solid in the preseason games he played. The injury sucks, but if the Eagles had to IR him for a BS injury, I’d say the pick is a bust. From what I’ve seen so far, that’s not the case. But hey, I’m no expert…of course, neither is Kempski.

      • JofreyRice

        That’s a fair read. We’ll have to see how it turns out. I disliked the Ertz pick, but have warmed up to it; it’s not all hype, the guy is producing on the field. Personally, I just prefer a more physically dynamic player than Ertz, but if he fits what Kelly wants to do, and can score points, I can’t complain. Hopefully the same will be true of Huff.

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          6’5″, 255 lbs, 4.7 40, 31″ vert, 24 reps on bench, 9.5 ft broad jump… not physically dynamic enough? There are only so many Jimmy Graham, Vernon Davis types out there man.

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, the testing #’s are pedestrian, 31″ vert, 9.5 ft broad, 4.7 are all kind of indicative of a lack of explosion. To me, in a league where the position was becoming more dynamic, he represented a bigger-bodied possession guy, without the element of run blocking those guys have. We already had an inline guy in Celek, so I wanted to see them take a shot on a more athletic guy, later, in the form of Travis Kelce Jordan Reed, or Dion Sims, and use the 2nd round pick somewhere else. Just my preference. It looks like the way Kelly wants to use him is a good one that maximizes his skill set (shocker, I know), I’m just being honest about how I felt at the time. Even acknowledging that he could be very productive in the red zone, I still don’t see Ertz as a dynamic gamechanger.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Jordan Reed is 6’2″, 236 lbs.. ran the same 40, had lesser reps in bench, and didn’t participate in the others. Dion Sims Is the same height, 10 lbs heavier, 4.7 40 again, lesser bench reps, better vert by 3 inches, same broad jump, and is slower than Ertz in the 20 yd and 60 yd shuttles. Travis Kelce didn’t workout at the combine and had character concerns. Not sure how you can say any of the three are more athletic or have a higher ceiling as a “Game changer”. Also, as much as you’d like to see them take a shot at someone more athletic, celek is getting old and the eagles run the ball. Our TE has to be able to block.

          • JofreyRice

            How can I say it? By watching the players in college and forming an opinion. Kelce was just way more explosive, Reed had elements of Aaron Hernandez to his game and Dion Sims was a b-ball dude that could have been had later. I watched Ertz and thought his best asset was route running, and that he was showcased coming from a very TE friendly offense in a way those others guys hadn’t been.

            Ertz is a poor blocker. 2 out of 3 of those TEs are about the same level of blocking as Ertz. Kelce was a much better blocker in school. So I’m not quite understanding your point there. I do apologize if my opinion on Ertz has offended you personally.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I’m not offended, I’m just debating your point. I think Jordan Reed is too small to be a full time tight end in 11 personnel on an NFL team. I think Travis Kelce had no chance because Chip won’t take the “character concern” guys and Dion Sims was a 4th round quality pick, fringe 3rd round at best. Ertz looked plenty explosive to me making his leaping 20 yd catch last week.

          • JofreyRice

            you’re really debating my opinion, which is a bit fruitless. I could do some research, but I’m pretty sure someone’s opinion has been changed by way of internet debate a grand total of 0 times in recorded history. I’ve already stated that Chip is using Ertz in a way well suited to his skill set, and I have no beef with spending a 2nd rounder on a guy that’s going to be productive in the redzone. Not sure what else you’re looking for, except an excuse to perfect your googling skills.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Internet, face-to-face, whatever… when two people have differing opinions and discuss them it’s called a debate. I don’t expect anything. I’m just doing what everyone else does on these boards. I’m sorry if I offended you by offering an opinion that was not in line with yours.

            Also, google is a great tool to use when someone says things that, based on available facts, don’t jive.

          • JofreyRice

            wow, you’re really pumped up about all of this debate stuff. I hate to break it to you that there’s not much at stake, neither one of us is Clarence Darrow. OK, I’ll make one last pass at my point:

            I didn’t think Ertz was a dynamic receiver as a TE. I still don’t, but I see the value in having him around to get matchup advantages in the RZ, and think he was a solid pick, because of how productive he could be there. I think when you look at the full picture of the way he plays in context with his combine testing #’s, it’s pretty consistent. Not a big RAC guy. Not running away from DBs. Solid route runner, decent body control and good enough hands.

            I did think those other guys had more potential to be dynamic receivers, and at the time of the draft, would have preferred to spend the second rounder on another area of need, and pick up one of them, later. That opinion was not based solely on combine testing #’s, it was based primarily on the watching them play; as you mentioned Kelce didn’t even participate.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I’m so pumped.

            You offer opinions and then when someone disagrees you use sarcastic connotation to demean their stance / them in general. Good work Jofrey.

          • JofreyRice

            Sorry if you felt me being tongue in cheek was demeaning. Me not seeing Ertz the way you want me to see Ertz seems to be the motivation for your initial post; I’m just letting you know posting 40 times and whatnot is not going to change that view, it’s admittedly subjective, based on watching the guys a bit.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I heard Jordan Matthews changed someone’s opinion in an online debate without even using ALL CAPS.

  • Adam G

    Think maybe we should wait and see instead of assuming Huff is shelved. The Barner moves makes a lot of sense considering he could be the returner while also being the backup RB, which Polk and Josey can’t do. Doesn’t seem like there is a legit return guy who was healthy. Move makes sense.

    • Token

      If they are looking at Barner as being the backup to Shady then Id be really concerned. Id think right now its competing for the KR spot and being the #4 RB.

      • Adam G

        Yeah, let’s say he is the 3rd RB AND the returner. How is that a bad thing?

        • Token

          Why is it assumed hes a good NFL return man? That has not been shown so far.

          • Adam G

            Was shown in college, never had the chance in the pros. Was a head turner in camp last year before he got injured. Your knowing more than everybody else including the coaches and front office schtick is getting old.

          • Token

            According to all the stuff from Panther fans im reading the guys never looked any good. Let alone a head turner. Maybe getting back with Chip will give him a boost but lets not go crazy. Not to mention he returned one kick for a TD in 3 years at Oregon. And was only their regular return man in 2009. So you will have to explain how he showed it in college.

          • Adam G

            He had one kick return TD and one punt return TD. Seems like he was having issues this year, but last year he was impressive in camp, but got hurt. If it doesn’t work out, he gets cut. To use a finance term, its a call option. If he does well these next two weeks he was probably worth a 7th round pick, if not, he gets cut. No harm no foul. Look back to the reports last year at camp, not this year.

          • aub32

            You kinda changed your argument there. I’m not trying to be an a$$, but Token’s gripe is that him being our 3rd RB is not ideal. There was no problem about what was given up. I agree that the value was good. We need someone to eat up reps, and if that’s all he does then fine. However, I would also be concerned if this guy is our 3rd RB. Sproles can’t handle the load if Shady goes down. I think it’s telling if after a year Polk or Tucker can’t beat out a guy who was injured last year and only on the team for 2 weeks. If that is the case, then I would start questioning the trade of BB, which for the record I thought was great value because I was assuming the team thought either Polk or Tucker could do a god job if McCoy has to miss some time.

          • Adam G

            Sorry about that, 4th RB, who happens to be a kick returner and gunner.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Aside from Barner looking like a revelation, which no one expects, it’d be a huge surprise if he climbed to #3 on the depth chart. Those other guys would have to really have some health problems, which would be its own source of suck.

        • anon

          3rd rb? seriously? Hope not.

      • anon

        yeah huff out they need someone to put back there.

      • Philly0312

        I would say 3rd RB; he was drafted, unlike anyone not named Sproles or McCoy on the Eagles. He is behind two good backs and a good FB in Carolina.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      it’s borderline delusional to complain about a 7th rd being traded for depth. that’s all anyone can or should hope a 7th rdr becoming. if there happens to be a player eags want next yr in 7th, it’ll cost next to nothing to aquire the pick. it’s complaining just to complain.

      • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

        I don’t know if this speaks for everyone, but my main thing is why we keep acquiring Oregon talent. Not saying Oregon talent is lacking. However, as a player on our team, how would you feel if your coach keep getting players from his previous job? A receiver spot is getting eaten by Maehl, the Casey Matthews debalce, between Hart and Huff we were GOING to use the third round pick on a duck, two ducks acquired in the draft, and did I mention Casey Matthews? You know?

        Is this good for camaraderie? It goes without saying that we’ll have to wait and see. But it’s a little unnerving.

        • anon

          he knows the system, he knows how they practice, etc. anyone we take during this time is 100% more likely to be an oregon guy, i’m ok with that. less ok with it in the draft.

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Yes but why? We have Tucker, Fluellen, and Josey as backups. Plus, prior to the trade, we had a 7th round pick (assuming it gets traded). Given what Howie has done with picks, why waste the pick on a duck when we have three backups? We’re going out of our way to get Barner when we could have saved the pick and gone with the one of the others.

            Of course, I’m not Chip, and I don’t have this insight. But it just seems like the acquisition was unnecessary.

          • anon

            polk, tucker and fluellen were all hurt. Huff is hurt and we didn’t have enough depth to finish the game friday.

          • aub32

            They are injured. We need a backup RB and KR to eat up reps in the latter portions of game 3 and all of game 4. Like you said, we already have plenty of backups at the spot. So there’s no need to keep him past two weeks when hopefully the backups are ready to go. Then the guy really cost you nothing. Just try looking at him as a street FA who comes in takes reps and is gone by September.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          why wouldnt Kelly take Oregon talent? it’s a top 10 program. was anyone complaining when Jimmy Johnson was reaching hand over fist for Miami guys. plus, it’s depth guys, no Oregon player has seen much playing time. i have as much fun joking about caseymatthews as anyone, but he’s 4th/5th LB, that’s never going to be some great player. They havent used 1st or 2nd rd picks, Huff was a 3rd rd talent in every write-up, he was not a reach. was other 3rd rdrs i was thinking about, but the value for pick was fine.

        • JofreyRice

          agree with anon. I get that adding Barner takes the level of former Ducks to “egregious” for some people, but honestly, at this point in the preseason, finding a backup RB really is about scheme suitability. I don’t have a huge problem with it. Agree with you that there is serious dead Oregon wood on the roster that seems to only be there because of the Duck connection.

        • Bert’s Bells

          Casey Matthews, of course, predates Chip Kelly.

        • aub32

          I think it’s fine in this case. We need depth at RB and returner with the injuries. This far into preseason, I understand why CK would go acquire someone he knows. I mean he’s basically giving up nothing to have a guy take up space so we don’t have Boykin fielding kicks or DJ2 at RB ruining reps because he isn’t a RB.

          Case predates Chip and like Allen & Marsh kept making the team to the dismay of the fans. So I can’t really say there’s bias. Maehl…..yes, but as cliff points out he’s very low on the depth chart. I am a little concerned with the Huff pick, because good players can be found in the 3rd round. We will have to just wait and see how he pans out before knowing whether the guy can really produce, or the pick was made due to nepotism.

        • JosephR2225

          I think they actually explained it pretty well around draft time. Any time you’re drafting or acquiring a young player there is necessarily a projection you have to make. The better you know the player, the less you have to project which presumably reduces your chances of whiffing on a pick. And I can’t really think of any obvious examples of them passing up a clearly more talented player just because another player from Oregon was available.

        • MagatBrackendale

          No matter how much we complain about Casey or any other player, we don’t actually know anything about the camaraderie in the locker room. He might be the most popular guy in there, or reasons that have nothing to do with football.

  • TNA

    If the Eagles cut Barner and then re-sign him to the practice squad, do they still owe the 7th rounder? This is of course he is worthy of a PS spot.

    • anon

      no i think they just need him for pre-season, maybe he can earn his way onto PS, but they need people to play thursday.

      • TNA

        I realize that. I was just wondering if Barner flashes or is needed, if there is a way to get around giving up the draft pick.

        • Corey Dawson

          Looks like he needs to be on the active gameday roster for 4 games for the draft pick to be traded. Any less than that and he’s free.

    • Bert’s Bells

      Conditional trades are USUALLY contingent on making the opening day 53 man roster. I don’t see the details of this trade anywhere so there’s no way to say for certain, but it’s highly unlikely that there’s any compensation owed if he’s not on the roster.

      PS players are essentially free agents getting a weekly paycheck from a club anyway. They can sign with any team that gives them a roster spot.

  • Andy

    I don’t know the rules: are players on IR able to train and practice at team facilities or restricted in what they can do?

    • Bert’s Bells

      They can’t practice with the team but they can attend meetings.

      • Andy

        Thank you, sir.

      • Myke Lowery

        Unless he’s that one designated IR person that can return during week 6 to practice and then play in week 8

        • Corey Dawson

          Isn’t that the PuP guy? I don’t think you’re eligiable for that if you attended practice or played in games during training camp/preseason.

          • Myke Lowery

            Nope.it’s called “injured reserve -designated to return”. You can assign it to one player. Physically unable to perform list is different.

  • Adam G

    So there’s this from Schefty:

    RB/KR Kenjon Barner needs to be on Eagles’ 46-man active roster for at least four games for a 7th-rd pick to be sent to Carolina.

    Seems like those are good terms

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      Thank you.

    • JofreyRice

      He was getting cut, they wanted him, and they’re covered if wanting him turns out to be a mistake. Totally fine with it.

    • CHRIS – CB with dreads

      nice, thanks. If he’s done enough to manage to stick on the active for 4 games, he’s well worth a 7th.

      • TNA

        Unless he shows way more than what he’s shown in Carolina, if the Eagles have him on the active roster for more than 4 games, they have bigger issues than the problems associated with giving up a 7th. I presume it would mean that Huff, Smith, Sproles, Polk, Tucker and possibly Boykin are all injured.

        • CHRIS – CB with dreads

          I’d limit that to just polk or tucker being injured. Mccoy/sproles are locks but i could see 4rb on roster (maybe deactivate 1 gameday) if they plan on using sproles more in passing game..which means if polk or tucker can’t make it into season healthy or are injured along the way he (or Josey) could take that 4th spot/KR.

          Again, assuming he shows more than what he has so far. I don’t think he’s a lock if he doesn’t show well.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        OK – so they inactivate Polk for a few games. Still think Polk is McCoy’s backup and Tucker is #3. Barner and either Josey or Fluellen to the PS. 10 spots now.

        • CHRIS – CB with dreads

          I’d have to say so although i’m getting a bit worried that Polk and/or Tucker may not make team based on early injuries. Wouldn’t be too happy with that. increase to 10 spots definitely helps.

    • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

      Appreciate it. This is much better.

      These NFL loopholes, boy I tell ya.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Wonder if Token will be okay, now.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        define “OK”

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          I’d define it as 5. It’s right in the middle of Ten.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          What Andy said.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

        Oddly disappears when pesky facts counter the whole ” CK cant let ex-ducks go hungry” theorem

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          Haha, thing is, not even sure I’d call it odd…. I have to tell you, lately I’ve been wondering if there’s a relation to Dutch.

  • mtn_green

    Eagles had Damaris Johnson a small receiver take reps at RB because of all the injuries, chip went and got a RB off of the trash heap and everyone is screaming ‘oregon bias’.

    If he makes the 46 the seventh rounder is more than worth it. At this point he could probably only make it if he can play special teams.

    • MagatBrackendale

      They are complaining about Oregon because, in this instance, they can’t complain about Chip only taking giants.

  • Travis Papa

    I would have preferred lamichael James but they most likely gave up nothing and if he produces got a steal. Who cares? It’s probably win win all the way around

    • Will, Always Shady in CA

      If anything it will only cost us a 7th rounder. I’m not expecting too much from Barner, but I think he’s better than he has shown. At least we get a KR/PR out of the deal in the least. Although I would have been happy with Josey getting more opportunities.

  • aub32

    Say bye bye to Fluellen

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Was he injured, too? Seems early to release him given that we have an injured Polk and Tucker, regardless of bringing in Barner.

      • aub32

        I think they may want the extra roster spot open in case someone they like gets cut from another team. We saw that last year where they left one roster spot open just in case.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          Good thought.

  • PaoliBulldog

    “Durability is the best ability.” — CK.

    Polk, Tucker and Fluellen haven’t showed it. I was rooting for Josey but if Polk gets IR’ed and Iggles keep Barner as well, so be it.

    If Barner doesn’t work out, Eagles owe nothing.

    Hope Huff can get well soon, but he may need a trip to the IR as well. Would be nice to see Boone or Pratt get a shot in his absence.

  • Amar, CB who bought in

    I don’t like the idea of our 3rd round pick not even making the 53 man roster.
    Not like we are overflowing with WRs like Washington Football team.

    • pjcostello

      You mean Seattle…?