Eagles Acquire RB Barner From Panthers

NFL: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers

The Eagles announced a trade Tuesday evening, acquiring running back Kenjon Barner from the Panthers in exchange for a conditional seventh-round pick in 2015.

Barner, who played for Chip Kelly at Oregon, was a sixth-round pick in 2013. According to Pro Football Focus, he played 25 offensive snaps as a rookie. Barner carried six times for 7 yards and had two catches for 7 yards. He also returned a pair of kicks for 17 yards.




"Kenjon will hopefully bring some depth to both our running back and return positions," Kelly said in a statement. "He’s obviously a guy I know really well from Oregon, where he had a very productive career. He has a lot of speed, explosiveness and had a knack for making some really big plays. But our plan with him right now is get him in Philadelphia as soon as we can and plug him in at running back and returner and let him compete."

Barner measured in at 5-9, 196 pounds at the combine in 2013 and ran a 4.52 40. He tested well in a variety of areas:

Barner ranked second all-time at Oregon in rushing yards (3,623) and tied for second with 41 rushing touchdowns. As a senior in 2012, he earned first-team All-America honors by rushing for 1,767 yards (second-most in school history) and 21 touchdowns (tied for most in school history).

So, who is affected by this trade? Let's start with the running backs. LeSean McCoy and Darren Sproles are obviously locks to make the roster. After that, the picture gets cloudy. Chris Polk drew praise from Kelly in the spring, but has been battling a hamstring injury. Kelly made it clear today that it's tough to evaluate bubble guys when they can't get on the field.

He included second-year player Matthew Tucker (hamstring) in that group as well. Undrafted free agents Henry Josey and David Fluellen seem like longshots to fill the third and fourth spots.

The Eagles could keep four running backs on the 53-man roster, with two of Barner/Polk/Tucker making the squad.

And then there's Barner's ability to return kicks. Josh Huff had been doing that, but he suffered a shoulder injury (AC sprain) vs. New England and said he's day-to-day. He added that he's aiming to be back for Week 1, but that's obviously far from a guarantee.

Getting back to Barner, at the combine in 2013, he called Kelly a genius and told me about his ability to adjust on the fly.

"His ability to adapt to any environment, any situation, I’ve never seen it," Barner said at the time. "I’ve never been around it. So for him to go to that level, I think he’ll be just fine."

More to come.

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  • Addicted2MAmula

    If Mccoy goes down do yall believe Sproles can be the #1 RB for this team?

    Edit: I believe Chip will use multiple RBs ( more )

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Nope.

    • RIP illa

      What’s there to believe? That’s what it will be, sorta of an it is what it is.

    • Token

      If McCoy goes down it doesnt really matter.

  • Token

    This is ridiculous at this point. Let it go Chip, move on with your life or go back to college. Stop filling the roster with bum ex Ducks that cant play in the NFL. Especially giving away a pick for a guy who would have been on the streets.

    Barner is a tiny back whose really not all that fast. Not very elusive. Goes down if a hand touches him. Hes a COLLEGE player.

    • Tom w

      Kick returner knows the offense and is healthy. For a seventh works for me at arguably our offenses most important position

      • RIP illa

        It’s already been shown that this is not the same O as what was in Oregon. Same tempo…yes. Same O…no. So the knows the offense thing gets overplayed.

        • Token

          Absolutely. How many times do former Ducks have to say its different before people listen?

    • OregonEagle

      Does this mean you won’t to be on the bandwagon next year when we trade Foles, Boykin and our #1 pick so we can move up and snag Mariotta?

  • RIP illa

    Say goodbye DJ2. And possibly Polk?! Tucker or Fluellen will fill Polks role of the big-ish back, and if all goes accordingly, Josey will most likely be PS’d with the advantage going to Barner due to kick returns.

    • Token

      Not saying Josey is some great player either, but hes shown more NFL ability in one game then Barner has in one entire season and this preseason.

      • RIP illa

        I hear you, but versatility man. That’s Chip’s thing, so unless Barner stinks up the joint or Josey lights it up, this is the most likely scenario, off the top of my head.

        • Token

          I cant stand that word. What the heck good is “versatility” if you suck at everything you do? It just makes no sense when you are calling bad players versatile. This move is simply made to keep a Duck employed. Or Chip having a soft spot for the kid from college.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah the V word is getting pass around way too much for my liking too. But let’s see what Barner brings. Shady’s a 4.5 guy too, but of course…Shady is great. Barner is basically a scat back, and I haven’t seen nor think Josey is/has the shiftiness to be labeled as such. A scat back (that’s good) would do great in this O. It’s not like we’re asking him to be the #2 guy. So basically if he can contribute on what should be a meager snap total for the season, and if he gives us more than DJ2 in the kick and punt return game, then it’s a good pick up/trade.

          • Token

            Barner is pretty much a straight line runner. Hes not gonna juke many NFL defenders. He was made because Chip gave him wide open holes in college and his speed was ok there. Hes not a elite breakaway speed guy. And hes really small. Not strong. Goes down easy. Injured last year barely doing anything.

            The question of who has control in the FO is obvious.

          • RIP illa

            And that’s pretty much how and what this O is set up, minus the straight line runner type thing. You pretty much just summed up my opinion on Josey, with that, minus the goes down easy part. I really haven’t seen enough of Josey to make that assessment, plus all his highlights/breakdowns was him running through wide open holes.

            I don’t recall Barner just being a pure straight line runner. Don’t think he would have had the success he did at Oregon if he was, but you maybe right. Chip doesn’t like all the dancing that McCoy sometimes does at the 1st level, so maybe you’re on to something. We’re not looking for just breakaway speed, scat backs rarely have that. We want…or rather Kelly wants, hit the whole in one cut or less, make one guy miss and/or get what you can and be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger

            Barner also runs the Wheel route exceptionally well.. which is a mainstay in this offense.

          • Kleptolia

            Wow. You pretty much just put together the most incorrect scouting report ever on a player. Well done.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger

            Just watched every amount of footage I could find on Barber. His vision and speed alone are great. He DOES NOT go down easily. Can confirm an awful awful scouting report.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        I’m impressed you had time to watch all of Barner’s preseason film from the last 2 years.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Now if only there were a LB we could get to finally get rid of Casey Matthews.

      • RIP illa

        You haven’t heard if anyone or possible moves have??? He says with bated breath.

        It’s been hard for me to get a handle on other teams ILBs this year, but I haven’t put a whole lot of time into it. Will start after 1st cuts tho. That’s one thing I didn’t like about the 1st year of the Kelly era, Howie backed off on churning the bottom of the roster in a big way. Hopefully we get back to that, cuz our depth is really suspect at a bunch of positions.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          Agreed. And I haven’t followed other camps to see what may be there from other teams for depth. Can’t be THAT hard to find an upgrade to Casey, though. I mean, just having the player’s first name NOT be Casey is a big step in the right direction.

          • RIP illa

            Hilarious.

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            We just spent a 7th rounder to pick up an Oregon guy. Jeff Maehl is STILL ON THIS ROSTER. Might as well face facts that Casey Matthews will be here as long as Chip is here.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            You take that back.

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            I want to, Nick. I really really want to.

      • TheCatalyst

        Is it possible for Chip to get rid of an Oregon player?

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          I feel like he did once but I can’t remember who. I could be wrong, though.

          • Kleptolia

            Isaac Remington. DT from last year’s camp.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Thank you…. Now the real question is if Chip cried in having to release him.

          • Kleptolia

            Chip has refused to cry over anything ever since he discovered that tears can’t run a zone read.

      • dislikedisqus

        We only add Oregon Ducks, we never subtract them.

  • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

    Well, I’m going to have to call an emergency meeting of the Former Oregon Playerhaters’ Club…

    • CHRIS – CB with dreads

      Hate hate hate hate. I actually don’t hate this one at all but don’t know why they’d do this but not draft DAT this year (forget what round Reid grabbed him).

      Now maehl and caseymatthews? They get all the hate I have to offer.

  • 370HSSV 0773H

    This has to be about Huff getting injured. I’m sure Barner will only be used as a kick returner.

    • Token

      Im trying to figure out what in the world Darren Sproles is gonna do to be worth a 5th round pick and contract. I know his return skills have kinda diminished, but I figured hed at very least be the KO returner.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Does he have to be much to be worth a 5th round pick? Hell, he plays meaningful snaps for two years with decent production and he’s done more than most 5th round picks.

        • Token

          I dont know how you rebuild this team by giving draft picks away. 5th rounder or not. This isnt near a championship caliber team. I still say the Sproles move was moronic. The contract worse.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Your viewpoint comes as a shock to no one.

          • Token

            I have a feeling after the season I think we are gonna have many of you may see things a bit differently.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Not sure who “we” is, but I have my reservations about parts of the process. I’m just not as willing as, say, you, to jump to conclusions before a regular season snap has been played.

          • Token

            Easy to form a opinion after the fact. I can only tell you what I think is gonna happen. Nothing that has happened since the Saints game are things that lead you to believe this is going to be a really good football team.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Forgive me for reserving judgment. I thought we’d be awful last year and we were quite the opposite so I thought maybe this year, despite having some questions, that I’d give the benefit of the doubt and see where this thing is going. Does it rain every day where you live?

          • Token

            Im not as high on them coming off last season as you. You have to look past the record and stats to see the true picture I think. Its the same not very talented roster they started the 2013 season with. But im guessing they wont have that same terrible schedule and large amounts of luck they had last year.

            I still dont know if 2013 was good or bad for the Eagles. On one hand it got players to maybe buy into Chips system more. On the other hand it has really set fans and players up for a lot of disappointment this year. What sucks is I think the Eagles buy into their own hype.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Yeah but we could win the SB and you’d tell us how bad we were…. Trust me, I get that the schedule wasn’t the most difficult, we caught a couple breaks, etc, etc. We still have to show up and play the games and we did and did very well. We’re a playoff team until we show we’re not a playoff team. Will we show that this season? I, nor you, have no idea at this point. And basing it off of two meaningless PS games is just that, meaningless. Thus, the reservation of judgment…. What more do you want from them? Should they have tanked because Token said it’s bad for fan expectations or players believing they’re good? Philly fans are going to have high expectations regardless, so that’s a moot point. Would you rather the players believed they sucked? That’s just stupid. Name me a team who made the playoffs the year prior and thought that next season they were going to be just awful despite returning most of the same players and making a couple under the radar additions. Please. I’ll wait.

          • All Things Bad@ss

            Jeeeeeezus … I would absolutely hate to watch a game with you bro. I get your whole, “I’m gonna be the one voice who constantly criticizes and expresses concern” crap, but you don’t have to swing from Chip’s sack or bow at Howie’s feet to throw these dudes a little ‘wait and see’ every now and then. For crying out loud, you’re complaining about going from 4-12 to 10-6 with a playoff appearance in just one year with a new coach and staff?? Check this — you do not know more about football then Chip Kelly, period. The proof is in the pudding, but you’ve already spit out the pudding that ain’t even been made yet. Chill.

          • bullrush

            Played well agianst Saints in playoffs.

          • midddletownwatch

            not to mention if Henery makes a field goal we would have won the Saints game. every site has at least ONE “glass half empty” clown who is the “Debbie downer” to literally EVERYTHING. its either “I told you so” when something bad happens and “yeah but they still could have done this or that better” when something good happens…sheesh

          • CBBC

            how is it a bad season when you get to see your favorite team win their division and make the playoffs? your “perfectionist” view of the way a sports franchise should be managed is suffocating. your comments simply add despair and depression to this amazing site.

          • Kleptolia

            YEAH, JUST LIKE LAST SEASON!! KNO WHY? BKUZ WE DIDNT HAVE SANCHIZE!
            THIS YEAR WE WILL BE THINKING DIFFERENTLY BKUZ SANCHIZE WILL BE HOLDING THE SUPER BOWL IN HIS GIANT STRENTH ARMS!!
            GO MARK SANCHEZ!!!!1!1!1!1!1

          • Token

            Im not sure if this shtick is supposed to be funny, but its not at all. Come up with a new screen name and try again.

          • Kleptolia

            I tried to get a new screen name, but somebody had already taken Token, so I stuck with the one I had.

          • RIP illa

            Can you please stop doing this thing with the all caps. Gets annoying to see it in almost every article almost everyday!!! Just learn to use sarcasm font or italics or something other than what your doing now.

          • Tom w

            How bout he catches 50 balls two yrs in a row for a start. And last I checked Howie swindled buffalo for a fourth for Bryce and extra two players in this past draft.

          • Token

            You think Sproles gets those kind of snaps? I dont see it. McCoy will plays a ton again because hes by far their biggest threat on offense. The team goes as Shady goes. You can only have 2 back sets so often. Maybe Sproles gets slot WR snaps, but I dont think a ton.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger

            Watch out. Token doesn’t see it. Better tell chip to pull the plug on his plans to exploit Sproles. He specifically said sproles is there to take workload off of shady. Multiple times.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger
          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            I seriously doubt that defensive coordinators would say giving Chip Kelly the opportunity to have Sproles and Lesean McCoy in the backfield at the same time is a “moronic” move.

          • johnr

            Yeah, if we had that 5th rounder we could have gotten another player that you would be unimpressed with. I would rather have Sproles. He will be a weapon for us in the passing game and returns.

        • Kleptolia

          The voice of reason.

          Don’t worry, you’ll be drowned out quickly and enragedly.

      • bill

        Why get Sproles injured on kick-offs, like Huff?

        Sproles is way too valuable as a pass receiver coming out of the backfield.

      • macadood

        I think he’ll be doing some punt returns? not KO

    • Kleptolia

      Partially about Huff’s injury, partially about Polk’s injury.
      Howie and Chip saw a chance to fill two areas of need with one acquisition that happened to be a person already familiar with the system in place.

      And if he doesn’t make the team, Eagles give up nothing. If he DOES make the team, Eagles give up a 7th round pick.

      I don’t understand why some people are so upset about this deal.

      • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

        Because Casey Matthews and Jeff Maehl. Barner is going to make this team.

        • Kleptolia

          If Barner makes the team and he produces, it will be a steal.
          If he makes the team and he doesn’t produce, that’s about the same as a seventh round pick not even making the team.
          I know, I know, Beau Allen….

          • http://www.idonthaveawebsite.com theedevilsadvocate

            GEAGLE?

          • Kleptolia

            Nope. Sorry.

  • dislikedisqus

    Sounds like he will be the RS. As a RB, he won’t see the field absent catastrophic injuries. ( Is LeSean’s toe that bad?)

  • Bill

    Barner is a burner……Chip knows him well and feels he can help the Eagles.

    That’s good enough for me…..better to get these great speedy Oregon guys that were very successful in Kelly’s system, then some guys from a lousy college.

    • Bdawk20

      4.51 40 is not a burner…

      • CHRIS – CB with dreads

        yea was watching his highlight tape and he actually looked a little slow for an undersized back. Low-risk move, I suppose..

      • Wilbert31

        But his kickoff return numbers are huge! 2-17…

        • Bdawk20

          Haha! This is one of the things about Chip that concerns me. Spurrier thought his players could run his system just as well, but it backfired. This is a no risk move really, but maybe he just needs to learn. Huff may be the biggest telling point about this if he is not successful here.

  • Kleptolia

    There are worse guys Chip could have brought in.
    I’m curious though, is there an available back out there who would be a significantly better fit in the current offense? If so, whom?

    • OregonEagle

      Despite my name I’m actually not that high on Barner, but I’ll wait and see what Chip has in mind.

      I was really hoping that the Eagles would pick up Blount. Talk about one cut and go.

      • Kleptolia

        I think Barners a good multi-purpose pickup, in all seriousness. I don’t believe he will look as fast as he did in the PAC. However, he can at least give the team good looks on special teams and at RB in practice. If nothing else, he’s a free camp body, as long as they cut him before the final 53.

        It really was a smart business move, as far as I can see.

  • Joe Thomas

    He wont make it to the bye week

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      If that’s the case then it really was a waste of the pick.

      • bill

        Nah, Barner will probably score some long exciting touchdowns…..Chip seen him do that many times

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          That’d be great, but I’m not banking on it.

        • Token

          lol what in the world

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            This guy has gotta be a) drunk on Tuesday b) from Oregon c) drunk on Tuesday while being from Oregon or d) Howie.

          • bill

            You probably never thought that Huff would have an exciting 102 yard touchdown for Eagles either, did you?

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Awesome. A return in preseason game number 1. Foles threw two INTs in game 1. Guess that means he’s throwing 32 this season.

  • Token

    Are the Eagles really going to red shirt Huff? I guess its possible to save the roster spot. He clearly doesnt look ready to play WR. But maybe could contribute at KR.

    Ugh…. You can not be spending 3rd round picks on guys like this. The Eagles draft as if they are a stacked team with years to spare on guys like Huff and Smith.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Damn him for not being All-Pro before the season started!

      • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

        There was one guy on here who had named him All-Pro before the season started.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          Man I hope I wasn’t blacked out typing nonsense on here one night.

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Lol it wasn’t you. It was one of them gray letter people.

          • RIP illa

            I thought I was the only one that had a thing against those damned grey letter people?!

          • Grey Letter Person

            Sorry

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Haha you are not alone, brother.

    • bill

      Wrong, Eagles traded Barner for low SEVENTH round pick….this could be an absolute steal.

      • Token

        Hyped up for Barner? Have you seen him?

        Go read Panther fan reactions. That can tell you some of the story. I dont know what kind of player you believe we are getting here.

        At most we already had a Barner on the roster and his name is Josey something or other.

        • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

          Which is what’s NOT being said here. Josey is pretty much gone or PS’d. After such a solid game against the Patriots, too. For who??!

          • Kleptolia

            I actually really liked Josey. He reminds me of Barner and Lamichael James.
            One thing about Josey, though: his knee (left, I think) is a wild card. He blew out every tendon in it in college, as you probably already know. Maybe the coaches don’t trust it fully?

        • bill

          I seen Barner and Oregon play many, many times.

          They always have one of the very best offenses in the country…and Barner is their 2nd all-time player.

          • Token

            You, like our coach, cant seem to separate the college game from the NFL game.

          • Weapon Y

            You, unlike our coach, have never been an NFL head coach who won the NFC East in his first season.

          • bill

            Many good college players……become good NFL players.

            I trust Chip in his talent evaluation.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger

            He’s not your coach.

          • Kleptolia

            I have troubles with it, too. I think it comes from the fact that we call them both “football.” What if we change one of them to “soccer”? That would help.
            We could call the other one “badminton”!
            See?! Now they’re way easier to distinguish! (Extinguish? I always mix those up..)

        • John E. Zang

          They drafted a player they didn’t have a use for or didn’t know how to use. He needs to run in zone blocking type of scheme and get in space.

  • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

    Is anybody else kinda worried about the team dynamic now? If you’re an Oregon duck, you’re safe. Chip goes out of his way to get Oregon ducks… I’m a little concerned.

    • bill

      Actually I am glad Chip is loading up on great star Oregon players, they are one of the top teams in country every year. I would be worried if he was getting Temple or Air Force players….LOL

      • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

        Ok. That works for Oregon. We’re in the pros. The pros are a different story.

        • Kleptolia

          Exactly! The pros are another story! That’s why Chip’s offense won’t work in the NFL!

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Yeah see… Josh Huff, former Oregon receiver, came to camp and found that Chip had changed the offense. Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator, echoed his sentiments.

          • Kleptolia

            The offensive concepts are the same, the verbiage is different. While it’s true that it’s different, it is still a help for a guy like Barner that he understands the concepts.
            I don’t mean to diminish your point, though. It isn’t exactly the same as what was run at Oregon. Barner will have a learning curve.

      • Weapon Y

        Or players from BYU

        • John E. Zang

          C’mon Reno Mahe was a no brainer that should’ve been a second rounder at worst. Andy had such a witty personnel strategy that the league is still catching up to.

  • DAS

    The Eagles now have 7 capable NFL backs. The Giants hardly have 1.

  • Eagles1018…Please no more du

    I think part of Barner going to Philly is we play the Panthers this year. It’s been said that guys get traded to teams just to give inside info on different looks and scheme etc. Could be part if it

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      Can’t count that out at all. Bonus points for us.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Well, this explains the timing of the Phillips release.

  • Rick H

    Wow I didn’t know there was a covert Chip Kelly hater dominating the comments here tonight. That is what it comes down to here. It isn’t about the player Barner. It is about clearly disliking Kelly.
    Don’t like the Eagles go find a team you like and stop posting 35 negative comments. Your position is transparent, Everyone is wrong and you are right IS YOUR MANTRA. Tough way to go through life.

    • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

      “Chip Kelly hater dominating the comments here tonight. That is what it comes down to here. It isn’t about the player Barner. It is about clearly disliking Kelly.”

      Not at all, champ. Try again.

      • Kleptolia

        I think he was talking to me.

        • Rick H

          Wrong! You aren’t worth the time!

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Well, that was rude.

          • Kleptolia

            It’s ok, Andy124. At least he said “wrong” with an exclamation mark after it.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Of course, the real crime is that I apparently began two different posts with “Well, ” within 10 minutes of each other. Total faux pas on my part.

            Pretty sure I just single handedly ruined the entire thread with that.

          • Kleptolia

            Oh, heavens no! I destroyed itong before you got here.
            Seriously, carry on.

          • Kleptolia

            I meant to say, of course, “I destroyed it long before you got here.” I have nothing against the good people of Itong.
            …if that is a place.

          • Kleptolia

            Awwwww. Mark Sanchez.

        • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

          Weren’t you arguing against me in favor of Barner?

          • Rick H

            No!

          • Kleptolia

            Maybe. But I was mostly writing in all caps about Mark Sanchez.

      • Rick H

        Not going to get into with you junior.

        • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

          Completely forgot about Token down there. I can see why you say that. *Bows out shamefully*

          • Rick H

            Bingo!

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Actually, I assumed he was talking about Token, not you.

        • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

          Yeah I bowed out shamefully below.

          • Kleptolia

            Quitter. :-)

  • Will, Always Shady in CA

    I wonder how this all plays out. Who grabs the 3rd and 4th RB slot?

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Quite the reaction for a bottom of the roster transaction and a conditional 7th round pick… late on a Tuesday night no less. I’m not sure this is normal.

    • RIP illa

      IKR, but it is our 1st roster move in about 4 months. We’re starving for some turnover over here!

      • Kleptolia

        Oh, so you can all-caps “ikr” but as soon as I all-caps mark SANCHEZ and every thing else it’s annoying?!
        DOUBLE STANDARD!!!

        • RIP illa

          Lol. Whole paragraphs, yes.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Two letters (L W), two paragraphs; Is there really a difference?

          • RIP illa

            Yes! :-)

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Well stated. I concede the point.

          • Kleptolia

            If you said that in all caps, your meaning would be clearer.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      It’s not. It delayed my bed time by an hour and now I’m cranky as hell. I might even post negative thoughts because I woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        Glad that didn’t happen to me. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go prepare for a winless season.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          I was thinking a negative win season. Something like -4 and 16.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            -4 and 20 seems more accurate. I doubt they’d be smart enough to quit after only 12 games, as much as I wish they would.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I blame lack of coffee for my idiot math.

          • UKEagle99 à l’orange

            I’ll trade you a coffee…

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Need a conditional 7th

          • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

            Just started my day with an audible chuckle. Thank you.

          • UKEagle99 à l’orange

            OK, I’ll give you a 7th next year if you drink it, if you don’t then we’ll call it quits.

            Hang on- that’s not right! Lol I’m giving you coffee and a pick, where’s Howie, I got fleeced :(

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            You seem like the kind of guy I’d like in my Fantasy League.

          • UKEagle99 à l’orange

            I blame Nick’s lack of coffee for my idiot trade.

  • Kevin.Rosenberger

    News flash. Commentors on birds 24/7 know more about building a football team than chip. We should just hand the keys over to you guys and we will be SB champs in no time.

    In all seriousness. Stop whining and wait until something that matters happens. This preseason cry baby crap is annoying as hell.

    • Kleptolia

      But-b-b-but… We almost had a plan! We can’t stop now!!!

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      I think you might be confusing quantity of negative posts for quantity of negative posters. Vocal minority and whatnot.

      • Kevin.Rosenberger

        No I understand not everyone here is negative but the negative voices are much more boisterous and noticeable. Honestly the negativity is what made me finally start commenting since I was sick of reading trash talk from fans.

        • Q

          The Problem I Have is..Why are we picking up a Running Back when we clearly need pass rushing help, I would like to think a pass rusher is more important than a 3rd running back who will mostly play on special team’s

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Teams don’t generally just cut those guys after 2 PS games or trade them for conditional peanuts.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I mentioned to RIP a minute ago, I think this has a lot to do with just having a warm body to take snaps so the other backups can continue to practice normally.

            As far as I know, Fluellen is hurt and they can’t trust Polk to make it though an entire day and they probably don’t want to give Shady or Sproles too many reps.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Yeah, still have Josey, and Tucker I thought was supposed to be back soon. Definitely agree that it’s a body to take snaps, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him make the team should Huff get IR’d.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Forgot about Tucker. But yeah, I want to see him returning kicks. Had a couple 30 yarders for Carolina the past couple years. Nothing too impressive, but he’s got to be better than DJ2.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Getting past the 5 is better than DJ2 most times.

          • Kevin.Rosenberger

            What pass rushers are sitting out there for the trading? I think barner>Polk, fluellen, Tucker, or someone like demarius Johnson.

            The Panthers drafted him in the.. 6th round. We gave a conditional 7th. There is nothing going on here that suggests a bad deal for Philly. Upside all over it.

          • anon

            who is going ot play 4th down in pre-season games? last game it was dj2. they dont want that anymore.

          • MagatBrackendale

            Which team is trading or waiving or releasing pass rushers just now?

  • mtn_green

    Barner is KR and maybe a Sproles replacement.

  • OldDuckMcDoc

    Post-for-post this is the greatest (over)reaction thread about a conditional 7th round pick ever.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      ha. wow, you aint kidding.

      • Kevin.Rosenberger

        It’s a travesty! Get the pitchforks.

    • Kleptolia

      Have to say: I wouldn’t have been nearly as interested in this thread if not for Token. Something about his having his own personal freak out in the comments section have me the itch to troll like a madman.

  • John J. King

    I know Josie is a long shot but he certainly looked fast on Fri nite.

  • Wiztopher

    As far as I’m concerned, great move late in the game to bolster the ST unit. Chip put a ton of emphasis on ST this offseason n I think we will see the return (pun intended) this time around.

  • JofreyRice

    I had read draft Nerd Carolinan Josh Norris talking about Barner being cut, because of the glut at running backs. They probably had their eye on him and just sort of prioritized their ability to pick him up by giving up the conditional 7th. I’m thinking stacking up on your former players from college is an odd way to build a team, but we’re just going to have to wait and see. I can’t say I’ve watched Barner much, as a pro.

    Personally, I’d love to see them keep 4 RBs–including Sproles as a running back. Don’t think it hurts Josey or Polk to have the competition, and the injuries necessitate adding another runner. No one is cutting Adrian Peterson loose in week 3 of the preseason, so if you’re adding a running back, I think scheme fit becomes the most important factor. From that angle, I could see why Barner would be attractive.

  • eaglesfan, 20-win failure

    13% on height?? Which RB’s at the combine could possibly have been shorter than 5’9″?

    • Uncle Wonder: grindin, Jack!

      obviously ~ 13%, what does it matter? They are usually the shortest position players on offense. Nobody is throwing end zone fades to RBs.

      • eaglesfan, 20-win failure

        i’m not saying he can’t be good because he’s short, just that he’s pretty d*mn short and am shocked there were still smaller backs at the combine.

        • MagatBrackendale

          this year had Dri Archer. Isn’t he only about 5’6″?

      • MagatBrackendale

        Maybe the folks who complain that Chip only picks big players while ignoring talent will tone it down a little. Of course they can complain about Oregon instead, I suppose.

  • scarolina1

    This trade makes sense if it is the Coach’s intention to try and groom him to eventually take over Sproles spot on a future roster.

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    Interesting that Chip now has two guys on his roster in Barner and Huff that both ran the “Taser” position (hybrid slot receiver/ RB) at Oregon.

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      I think either player can impact a game in a limited capacity given Chip’s talent for drawing up plays. Neither of them are load-carrying, bonafide NFL running backs, but we already have a pretty good one there. I can see 4-5 plays a game where either or sees the field in an odd alignment and creates a mismatch for our offense.

      I think we’re going to see some more funky stuff this year. Chip may have “small” packages to go against base defenses like Sproles in the slot, Mac / Coop on the outside, and McCoy in the backfield with a Barner or Huff doing some sort of motion into / out of the back field. He might have some “big” packages to go against nickel or dime defenses like Celek and Ertz in the game with Coop, JMatt and McCoy.

      My point is the guy doesn’t care about who gets how many touches or stays on the field because of draft / contract status. He’s going to put different offensive arsenals on the field to thwart whatever defensive attack that he’s facing. If that means putting five little specialists out there, five big dominating players, or a combo of the two then that’s what he’s going to do. The cupboard is stocked.

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        Agreed @joefromeaston:disqus hopefully Chip can implement some old concepts and wrinkles to this offense. Chip is definitely going to keep bringing outside the box thinking as we move forward. As long as these young guys can bring something to the table and contribute–I’m all for it. I think this offense needs more motion. I liked when he had Djax and McCoy in the backfield last year and started moving him around.

  • Corey Dawson

    Don’t see why it’s a problem. We traded a conditional 7th round pick for a player that another team thought had 6th round talent, but didn’t work out for whatever reason., and who now is a year older and has a year worth of experience in the league without much mileage. The reason he didn’t work out could be completely unrelated to talent level. It could be that he didn’t fit the scheme like they thought he might, it could be that the Panthers now believe the talent in front of him on the roster makes it unlikely he’ll ever see the field. If it’s one of these reasons, Chip might think he’ll fit this scheme better (he’s seen the player in something similar first hand for a few years afterall).
    It could also be that the Panthers don’t think he’s worth squat afetr getting to know him better over the last few years.

    I’ll resrve judgement to see how it pans out, Chip knows the situation 10x better than any of the rest of us do. Hopefully he doesn’t have a weakness for wanting to give his past players shots at the detriment to the team. I’m hoping he disproves this theory a bit this year by cutting Casey.

    • MagatBrackendale

      The Panthers have known him for the past 1 year.

  • @desiderata

    @disqus_IkP58l9E6H:disqus opinions are all pretty reasonable, but they also show a somewhat glaring distrust of Kelly where I think most others, especially after last year, are more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. One thing Kelly has proven is that moreso than other coaches, his scheme is kind of nfl-talent-agnostic. In college he won with mediocre o-line, qb, rb and wr. Most of his record breaking college skill players didn’t make it to the pros, and those that did were Kenjon Barner types. He’s clearly proven an ability to match specific skills to his scheme, which is why I give him the benefit when he reaches for an aging Sproles (who beat us singlehandedly in the playoff game) and now for Barner

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RipperEagle96?feature=mhee RJ

    Not a bad addition for a 7th round pick. If anything he will make the running back situation more intriguing with Tucker and Polk fighting injuries and Fluellen gone. Plus, if Huff is going to miss more time than they let on, he’s got kick return (and punt return) chops.