Wake-Up Call: How Early Is Too Early?

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The Eagles weren’t planning on taking a quarterback in the fourth round last year, exactly. There wasn’t really a plan at all in that sense. They had Matt Barkley rated significantly higher than any of the remaining prospects, and decided the best value play was to move up to grab him. Pretty straightforward.

Funny thing about this time of year: We know that the Eagles have been disciplined about choosing the best available player in recent drafts and that most teams try to stay true to that approach, yet we often predict and project based on need. It’s our answer to the blindfold  as we try to make our darts fly a little straighter. We’d be better served looking back at the Zach Ertz pick in the second round and the Barkley selection in the fourth and realize it’s about the player and not the position.

If it was about the position, it would be about quarterback. It’s no secret that this league is largely about having quality signal-callers, and Howie Roseman has made it known that the Eagles won’t stop hunting even though Nick Foles laid claim to the starting gig with a spectacular 2013 season.


"I think we have to be careful in saying what we don't need or what we may have on the roster because you never know what you may need going forward," said Roseman immediately following the season, when asked how Foles' emergence would affect the offseason approach to the QB position. "The way we'll look at it, if there is a talented player player at any position and we have him highly ranked in the draft and he's on the board when we pick, we're going to be interested in him. I think if you get into the mode of, 'We have this so we don't need,' you never know where the league is going to take you."

I was thinking about this quote on Wednesday as a couple respected analysts suggested that at least one top-ranked quarterback could be facing a free-fall on draft day. Albert Breer believes Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater could drop, noting that while some teams like him, he was having a difficult time finding one that loved him. Paul Domowitch added this:

It's less about Bridgewater specifically and more about the general idea. How early is too early to use a pick on a quarterback when you appear to have a long-term starter in place? On one hand, the Eagles only have six picks in this draft at the moment and have plenty of other areas that need addressing. On the other, there is no greater commodity  in this league than a quality quarterback. If there is one on the board that carries the highest grade of the players available, do you snag him?

From what we gather, the Eagles don't view any of the quarterbacks in this class as can't-miss prospects. They spoke with Derek Carr of Fresno State "at length" during the Senior Bowl and did some follow-up work, we're told, but did not schedule a visit with him. They have shown "no interest" in LSU's Zach Mettenberger, according to another source. Local product  Tom Savage hasn't received much love from the Eagles. And the Tajh Boyd camp isn't getting the vibe that Philly is a likely landing spot.

Could be that the team's actual interest goes beyond what they've shown so far. Might very well be that they have eyes for some other QB in the draft. At the very least, it's plausible that they'll run into a situation where they are on the clock, and the player with the highest grade happens to play quarterback.

Last season, the logical play was to pull the trigger. Foles was an unknown, Michael Vick was a short-term option and the job was up for grabs. This time around, Foles is coming off a 29-2 campaign and the backup options (which include that fourth-round pick from a year ago) seem passable.

But, as we need to remind ourselves regularly this time of year, the Eagles are trying to go best player available. And the BPA method is almost guaranteed to draw a surprise or two -- at least for those that are looking exclusively at need.

WHAT YOU MISSED

DeSean Jackson owes Drew Rosenhaus some money.

In the latest installment on Draft Daily, we go one-on-one with Calvin Pryor. 

Sheil on the possible tweaks that Chip Kelly will make in Year 2.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

One of Kelly's former playmakers is reportedly on the trade block. From the Sacramento Bee:

According to a league source, the 49ers have been shopping running back LaMichael James, a second-round pick in the 2012 draft...

As for possible trade partners for James, the Eagles at one point seemed like a realistic destination considering head coach Chip Kelly was James' coach at Oregon and that the man who scouted James for the 49ers, Tom Gamble, is now with the Eagles organization. Philadelphia, however, traded for another running back, Darren Sproles, last month.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com has the Eagles selecting Ohio State corner Bradley Roby in the first round.

Roby is a talented cover man with the speed, athleticism and movement skills to thrive in an aggressive scheme.

COMING UP

A Twitter Mailbag and more pre-draft goodness.

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  • Rahkem

    LOL please no teddy Bridgewater

  • GEAGLE

    Sigh…silly article

  • http://themoranimal.wordpress.com WilmingtonDan

    I don’t know how good he will be in the NFL, but he might have the best QB name ever. Then again, Colt McCoy is a great QB name, too…

  • Bullwinkle

    Based on the number of positions on a team, there is approx. a 1 in 22 chance the BPA will be a QB. In reality it’s less than this since some positions are interchangeable; so maybe it’s about 1 in 14.

  • GEAGLE

    An article talking about drafting QB when we only have 6 picks. Makes me miss Desean articles :)

    • myeaglescantwin

      hahahaah

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya if eagles take a QB with one of these 6 picks…. Won’t be too pleased

      • Mike J

        Agreed. I know it was only (most of) one year…but I feel good about rolling with Foles for the future.
        Sanchez feels like a AJ Feely situation where IF he improves practicing under Chip they could flip him for a future pick next year (maybe)
        Only a snap shot but Barkley…didn’t impress. If Boyd is still around in the 6th or we do a 1 for 2 drop back in the later rounds and have an extra pick…I’m good with Boyd battling Barkley in camp. Boyd is getting knocked on his measurables but all he did was make plays at Clemson since he took over his sophomore year.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Exactly, comfortabe with foles for sure. Sanchez is a two year deal? Or one? If the latter then there won’t be any flipping for picks… If Barkley doesn’t show something in preseason or camp then ya he’ll be the same in all our books, a wasted 4th rd pick..

      • Amar (India)

        We could develop a Kolb as future trade bait. I wouldn’t be too happy if its was in the first 4 rounds.

        • G_WallyHunter

          exactly

  • Will

    Can Teddy play Safety?…lol…

  • Will

    CJ2K signed with Jets…

  • Will

    21 days till the Draft…

  • myeaglescantwin

    I tellya hhhwat, Roby might be our best option at 22.

    but is the value worth that pick?? or would we be better suited trading back into rd 2 and gaining another 3rd or 4th?

    hell maybe even for a 2015 1st.. Need some firepower for the Mariota trade

  • Will

    Your score is: 4794 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 22: Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 22: Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 2 (WASH): Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State (A)
    Round 5 Pick 2 (WASH): Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (A)
    Round 5 Pick 15 (MIA): Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (A)
    Round 6 Pick 2 (WASH): Chris Boswell, K, Rice (A)
    Round 6 Pick 14 (MIA): Deandre Coleman, DT, California (C-)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Denicos Allen, OLB, Michigan State (B-)

    I was planning on trading back and HaHa fell to #22

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Pls stop

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya these draft things really need to stop, no one cares to see them and they really don’t add anything to discussion, plus they just clutter up the board. “look at this one! Look at the one I did! Oh, look at this one!”… That’s how I see it, lets just end them

        • anon

          yeah i tried to make this point like a week ago — so many mocks.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya its really getting out of hand I’d rather see comments from Dutch than see any more of these stupid fantasy drafts that mean absolutely nothing, at least Dutch brought something to the table..

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Take it back

          • G_WallyHunter

            Even if he brought ridiculous logic and some of the dumbest perspectives I’ve ever heard to the table? At least its still something.. these draft things are just nothing..
            Is it about time to begin another “Bring Back Dutch” campaign?

          • NickS1

            I’d rather argue with Dutch and be driven to madness than have to keep seeing 20-30 100% unrealistic drafts posted on every post Tim and Sheil put up.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Precisely to both your posts, they’re getting out of hand, Dutch at least made us laugh hysterically especially when he constantly fell for my clear sarcasm and kept running with it… These drafts are dumb. Will, go start a word document and post them in there for yourself to see, then save it to your desktop….

          • Andy124

            eh, the mock drafts are much easier to ignore imo. I feel bad for Will. I think he’s just having fun, but his fun is obviously getting annoying, and it would be polite of himi to chill with that.

          • NickS1

            I posted you a reply, that was moderated and subsequently not posted due to the new selective moderation being done by PhillyMag. Nothing I said was negative, rude, or vulgar. No idea what that nonsense is about. I liked it better when we self policed.

          • Andy124

            I, and I feel I’m not alone, have a hard time ignoring draft posts that consume 3/4s of my screen. It’s a pain in the butt to have to scroll through them in order to get to actual discussion. I get he’s having fun, and no one is telling him to stop drafting. Just stop sharing.

            Honestly, I think it’s just a bug.

          • NickS1

            There it is! Thanks buddy.

          • Andy124

            There was a “This comment is being blah blah blah” Click to Show Comment.

            And yeah, I think Will is going to stop now, so no worries.

          • NickS1

            Yeah I saw that, and then refreshed my screen and it was gone. Like it never happened. Then you saved it. Kinda makes you a hero or something.

          • Andy124

            I am the wind beneath your wings.

          • NickS1

            He shouldn’t have to! What do these drafts bring to the table? Nothing. They’re unrealistic as hell. At least Dutch made me laugh. Well, when he wasn’t driving me insane that is.

        • GEAGLE

          In fairness, there is no discussion…when the discussion is draft a QB when you haven’t even developed the one you traded up last year when we have so little picks, and we are using quotes that have been used for 37 articles to where I know it by heart, then I’d welcome someone posting anything…

          Like when it comes to this Article, I got nothing…

      • Andy124

        I just noticed, that minimize button doesn’t just minimize the post, but the whole chain under it as well. Unfortunately, it doesn’t hold through a refresh.

    • Eagles1018

      Good draft. Love that Boswell pick. Not even joking

  • Andy124

    How high is too high? This year… UDFA is too high.

    • GEAGLE

      Not as high as whoever wrote this :) JK

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      I’ve never gotten too high. Always the right amount

      • G_WallyHunter

        Except with edibles

      • Andy124

        Never been high. Or at least, was too drunk to tell the difference.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          :(

        • G_WallyHunter

          You should really indulge Andy

          • Andy124

            I have enough trouble staving off alcoholism. I need another vice like I need a another hole in my head.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            trade vices. it’s worth it. your liver will thank you later

          • G_WallyHunter

            I don’t see it as a vice but rather medication. Daily medication keeps you even-keeled and conscious :)
            As my good buddy Bob used to always say, it helps reveal you to yourself.. much healthier than that poison alcohol

          • Amar (India)

            Gave up alcohol 4 years ago. Probably the best decision I ever made. Made significant progress at work and relationships.

  • GEAGLE

    What a defensive nightmare this would be…this is what can happen when you talk about strict BPA:
    ..
    Rd1 #22: Lewan OT
    Rd2#22 Su’a Filo OG
    Rd3 #22 Moncreif WR
    Rd5 #13 Ronald Powell OLB
    Rd5 #22 Brandon Coleman WR
    Rd6 #12 Deandre Coleman NT
    Rd7 #22 Walt AiKENS CB

    What a defensive nightmare this would be…then again, betcha Taylor Lewan can get me Dion Jordan :)

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Extra pics out of.thin air, eh?

      • GEAGLE

        Did u happen to miss where I didn’t draft in round 4? Think I donated my 4th to charity?

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          honestly i did miss that.
          still astounds me how much movement there is in these things, as if so many teams are willing to trade up in this draft

    • anon

      That’s long term upside of bpa — trades.

    • Richard Colton

      Hmmm. I wouldn’t sleep on Lewan at 22. He’s got a 90% shot to go top 15. Getting him at #22 would be a major coup. Don’t see any scenario where Su’a Filo is there at #54 – but damn, if he is, you have to take him. Right?

      The problem with this draft is the lack of playmaker on defense. Otherwise – really good value at 1,2,3.

  • JosephR2225

    As a staunch BPA advocate, it breaks down at the QB position because there can only ever be one on the field and they are almost never interchangeable. It’s the only position where, if you have a good one, you are better off overpaying him than trying to replace him via the draft.
    But I would take a QB in the third, and if one of the really good ones fell far enough, the second.

  • Will

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 31 (DEN): Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 22: Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 18 (PITT): Craig Loston, SS, LSU (A)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 1 (HOU): Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton (A)
    Round 5 Pick 4 (JAX): Dontae Johnson, FS, North Carolina State (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 17 (PITT): Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 19 (JAX): Chris Watt, OG, Notre Dame (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Bennett Jackson, CB, Notre Dame (B+)
    Round 6 Pick 1 (HOU): Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama (C)
    Round 6 Pick 5 (HOU): Russell Bodine, OG, North Carolina (D)
    Round 6 Pick 16 (PITT): Dri Archer, WR, Kent State (C+)
    Round 6 Pick 24 (K.C.): Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 1 (HOU): Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Cairo Santos, K, Tulane (B-)

    Since you guys love these mocks thought I’d post one more…lol…

    • NickS1

      For God’s sake. Stop posting these. If doing mocks is how you want to spend your time, go nuts. But for the love of everything holy and sacred about this site, please stop polluting it with this garbage.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Sheil/Tim, pls block these from posting

        • NickS1

          Fantastic idea.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      This is where I miss downvotes

      • G_WallyHunter

        Why the hell are they gone? Did someone cry to T+S because their feelings got hurt? Is this another equal rights issue? Don’t get it

        • Andy124

          Disqus disabled them. Maybe they had a study that indicated that caused more negativity than anything? I don’t care. I miss them. Even the ridiculous ones, like where Geagle would get downvoted for saying the casey matthews sucks.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya They always held way more weight, were fun while they lasted, was always hilarious for that few month period coming across any posts from #7 and seeing 4+ downvotes no matter what the post contained..

    • cliff henny

      finally, a realistic mock.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya this one looks like it really could happen, unlike the other 1000 of them over the last 3 days

        • NickS1

          Only 1000? Are you low-ballin’ us?

          • G_WallyHunter

            I’d say 1000 in last 3 days majority from Will sounds about right. Lets find Dutch

          • cliff henny

            start on subway, if guy is too close, uncomfortably trying to rub elbows, that’s him.

        • cliff henny

          all I’m seeing is 4 wrs taken

          • G_WallyHunter

            Lol and 20 picks

      • myeaglescantwin

        ?? 6 pix turned into 24

    • Token

      Buddy, nobody is impressed at how big of a draft nerd you can be. Just stop with this crap. I think we started off trying to nicely tell you, but now its just ridiculous.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Haha well said, I’m not one to be a d bag about things, but really, its a little ridiculous

        • cliff henny

          well, if token has perfected a role on pm 24/7, it’s to be a negative d-bag about almost everything

          • G_WallyHunter

            Good, then he’ll have no problem being a Dbag to Will, I’m a canuck come on, can’t be a Dbag, not in my blood, unless you steal my bacon, then ill casterate you

          • cliff henny

            poor Will, seems like nice enough guy. mocks don’t bother me if they a 1, realistic or 2, extreme satire. those in between, pretty much ignore

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya nothing against Will, I know he has great intentions, but they’ve just gotten way too excessive…. Maybe just freeze them until a week before the draft…. Give everyone a damn breather

          • Max Lightfoot

            That’s true – you can’t mess with a Canadian’s backbacon.

          • Token

            Man, I really hurt your feelings at some point. It left a mark.

          • cliff henny

            don’t flatter yourself.

      • Uncle Wonder

        lol

    • myeaglescantwin

      please stop this…

      that site is worse than doing a madden draft.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      15 picks?

      i take back what i said above, you CAN get too high. you’ve proven me wrong, will

  • cliff henny

    hope TB falls, need more trade back partners. see if all these qb desperate teams picking in top of 2nd can hold their water hoping someone falls. to me, that’s very doubtful, someone will want to jump up.

    • NickS1

      I can see SF picking him up if they don’t go LB right away. Nice backup for Rapernick. I mean, Kaepernick.

      • cliff henny

        where does that stand?

        • NickS1

          No idea. I just wanted to see what kind of fun I could have with his name and situation. I’m sure Big Ben will show him how to sneak out of this one.

          • cliff henny

            guys getting 40m singing bonus, or something crazy. look at flacco’s contract, think he got 55m. someone’s getting paid off and this will all disappear

          • NickS1

            55 was guaranteed, not all signing bonus. Kaep will get something crazy, but I’m not sure it’ll be as high as Flacco’s, even if it should be. Flacco was in the most unique situation possible and he leveraged the hell out of it.

          • cliff henny

            goto overthecap.com, his cash bonuses are 51m, prorated bonuses are that too. man got paid.

            http://overthecap.com/player-cash.php?Name=JoeFlacco&Position=QB&Team=Ravens

          • NickS1

            Yeah, thought you were just talking signing bonus, which was 29. I’m looking at the breakdown on spotrac and a lot of the option bonuses are injury guarantees.

        • Adam G

          Turns out the players actually called 911 to remove the woman from the apartment bc she wouldn’t leave. Looks like they did nothing illegal.

          • cliff henny

            except over-serve, provide illegal drugs, possible ruffie her…boyscouts.

          • Adam G

            Noticed I used the term illegal. Definitely not saying it was ok for them to do what they did.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            besides disgrace the term “man”

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Liking the new nickname! No clothes colin? Kreepernick? So many possibilities

        • NickS1

          Kreepernick is a good one! However, I am not a fan of “nick” being in any part of his name.

          • Andy124

            raperdick? but then we could offense mr. colton.

          • NickS1

            Probably more of an insult to the wine glass.

          • Andy124

            Well I’m ok with that.

          • Richard Colton

            a bit infantile, but I’ll allow it

      • Richard Colton

        nice. 49ers are imploding right before our eyes. completely lost in all of this is the fact that Harbaugh has lost the locker room.

        • NickS1

          Let’s hope he has. I really don’t believe those reports too much. They’re winning, and that keeps most things together.

  • JosephR2225

    It’s been 9 minutes! Somebody post a mock draft!

    • cliff henny

      ok…but it’s gonna make you defensive guys cry

    • G_WallyHunter

      If it gets to 15 I might just have to go waste my time and do one myself

    • MediaMike

      Ha ha ha ha. I had a lot of fun putting up my mock mock drafts yesterday for Washington and the Lions just to mix it up. I’m not sure if I’m totally ready for another one today.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      some people can’t read sarcasm. so help me, if you encourage the masses…..

      • G_WallyHunter

        Now imagine Dutch was posting the mocks, it’d never end after seeing this post

        • Andy124

          He’d take a QB in the first round every damn time. Probably the first 2 rounds.

          • cliff henny

            nawh, think it took Dutch 15 mins just to log into this site. doubt he was/is computer savvy enough to work that site

          • Andy124

            good point, i still say he lost his computer priveledges at the nursing home when the staff saw some of his posts and realized he was suffering from dimensia.

          • G_WallyHunter

            LMAO this is a very good possibility. His sentence structure resembled what someone with this condition would write.

  • GEAGLE

    Jenkins was asked who he wants to start the season against…said “might as well address the elephant in the room, and ate the tone out the gate vs. Desean and the redskins”…,

    Said after he signed and Sproles was made available eagles told him to reach out to Sproles, he shot him a text “might as well come join your boy”

    • Andy124

      and ate the tone out the gate

      can not decipher.

      • Javi Echie

        Sounds like he meant “set the tone”

        • Andy124

          good call. I think you’re right. brain’s not quite rolling yet this morning.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        ate the tuna?

        • Andy124

          Bill Parcels over in Washington now? Why not, he’s been annoying on sideline of all of our other NFC East rivals.

    • MediaMike

      If we play the Redskins in a prime time game week 1; it needs to be at home this year. We’re owed the respect of our national games being in the Linc!

    • Clamdigger

      Source?

  • Will

    I wonder where Dri Acher gets drafted enjoy the music…Chip would have fun with this guy…

    • cliff henny

      what’s his 40…4.2 or something? better find sidelines in NFL, but lateround flyer, maybe Graham for a 6th. has a yr or 2 to learn from sproles, add weight, too.

      • Joe L

        The craziest thing is that at 5’8 he ran the 40 yard dash in only 18 steps. I can’t get to the bathroom in 18 steps.

        • cliff henny

          is he part greyhound?

          • Joe L

            Turn to 2:30 and tell me how exactly he stays on the ground. Unreal balance on this kid.

    • DEBO 215

      All the stats are from 2012. Was he injured last year?

      • Joe L

        Yes.

    • peteike

      dont really have a need for a guy like this but ya, its exciting to dream. If they had more picks maybe

  • MediaMike

    Bridegewater makes an interesting case. I see him as a more athletic Chad Pennington, a guy you can win with although he’s not really a superstar. Bridgewater looks to be the best actual quarterback at this point, but I know the arm strength / hand size mix isn’t ideal for every team early on. I also think the Bridgewater is the best football brain out of the bunch and is supposed be a real student of the game. Bortles is raw, Manziel is a bad risk, and Carr has A TON of Kolb in him when the rush is on.
    I think Bridgewater would be excellent for a few teams, but I don’t see him as a fit here.

  • Stuart Philp

    If Bridgewater is still there at 22 the only thing we use him for is trade bait for a team that wants a QB and is willing to trade up for him.

    I can see Pryor at 22 working out okay. He’s an instinctual player, takes good angles, gets to the ball. You can teach him how to tackle properly, he leads with the shoulder or just gets one hand on a guy too often, but he’s always in position. He isn’t overly versatile, but then you need some specialists who do what they do really well.

    I can’t see any of the top WRs or OLBs being there at 22, at which point we can get one of the second tier guys in the second round, so I doubt we go that route. But there are a lot of WRs in the draft, and there are a lot of other teams before us that have other needs (many teams before us need a QB, S, LB, DL) so if one of them falls to us we will grab him.

    The less popular choice, the true BPA, like a TE or OL (Ebron, Martin, Su’a Filo, etc.), could happen, and I’d be okay with that as I’ve been going on about OL depth for months.

    • Scott J

      I agree. I don’t see any of the top WR’s or OLB’s falling to 22. And even if they fell into the teens, a team like the Niners, who are loaded with picks, will move up and and take them. Unfortunately, we don’t have the ammo to move up this year.

    • MediaMike

      I don’t see any possible scenario that has Pryor sitting there at #22. Safety play in the NFL is at an all time bad level and teams will draft those guys earlier than necessary.

      • Stuart Philp

        Yeah, that’s true. It all depends on what the other teams do.

        We are fortunate that we are in a position to take whatever player drops further than he should, and if there isn’t anyone we like we can trade back.

  • Scott J

    I don’t think “best available” applies to the quarterback position. Especially for teams that have entrenched starters.

    • JosephR2225

      Agreed, at least in the first two rounds.

    • Ark87

      If you think a QB has slipped and is worth more than your pick, you take him, outside the first round at least. They can be nice back-ups (and quality back-up QB’s *are* quite valuable) and can be flipped for nice value down the road. QB’s seem to appreciate in value more than any other position. A prime example of this is Matt Barkley, he wasn’t an ideal fit, but the value was there I could totally see him killing it in the preseason and being trade bait for more than we spent on him (I could also see him sucking, we’ll see).

      Of course this depends on the state of your team. If you’re in good shape, you can afford to make a large future-minded investment. If you are struggling and you have trouble filling your stands, you need exciting and immediate impact.

      • MediaMike

        The “flip” theory is going to be interesting as we see if the Pats can get anything for Mallet or if the Skins can get anything for Cousins.

        • Ark87

          True, I feel like both missed the opportunity to cash in at their high points. The Pats make more sense in their actions. The skins REALLY should have cashed cousins in if they believe in RGIII. Get a vet to back-up for RGIII. They need the picks badly.

          • MediaMike

            I think the time to flip guys like Cousins and Mallet will be after the draft as teams go into camp with a lack of talent AND having missed on the QB they liked in the draft. Too much optimism for all 32 teams until after the draft is over for any major moves to grab a QB.
            Another possibility is draft day itself. Teams may be willing to part with 2nds or 3rds if the guy they wanted went ahead of their pick.

          • Ark87

            Great future-minded points. I think Last off season was a great time to trade them though. No prospects in the draft, and both impressed the season before.

      • Scott J

        I see you’re point, but I think you’re overestimating the value of flipping a quarterback. The Skins won’t be getting a 3rd round pick for Cousins, who was a 4th round pick. Mallett was a 3rd round pick, and I doubt a team will give up a 2nd for him. Teams put a lot of time, money and effort into developing QB’s, so I don’t think they draft them with the intention of flipping them.

        • Ark87

          times might be changing a bit on me too. Not so long ago, QB’s were extremely hard to hit on, because all their film, background, and success were in college systems that didn’t translate to the NFL at the time. We had a great staff to turn these guys into NFL QB’s that could sit in the pocket and run west-coast style offenses, turning unknowns into known quantities. These days the line between college and NFL offenses has begun to seriously blur, and we’re seeing a lot of young guys have success earlier. That probably has limited the profit and taken some of the shine off of an already-developed qb.

    • UKEagle99

      New england have nearly averaged drafting a QB every other year since Brady. Teams will continue to look as they can get a quality backup or move them on for picks. That said, you don’t generally use your 1 or your 2 on them but mine the later rounds or pickup ‘value’ picks from the 3rd onwards.

  • Joe L

    Just waiting for the speculation of Kelly trading for Terrelle Pryor this weekend.

    • MediaMike

      That would quite possibly be the worst thing ever posted if it were to come up, but I agree with your anticipation of that horrid event!

  • Eagles1018

    Just watched Boykins interview on nfl network. He’s ready for Desean and is “looking forward to guarding him.” Also, when asked about the schedule he said “I hope we play Seattle first. To see where we are as a team.” This guy is steadily rising up the list of my fav players on this team.

    • MediaMike

      Boykins isn’t too smart. The Seattle game is in Philly and unless you get punked out by your baseball team (LOL @ Ravens ) the defending champ plays at home for the opener.

      • Tom w

        Do you think he really freaking thinks Seattle is first or was taking the question literally. Smh

        • MediaMike

          I think, like a lot of other NFL players, he doesn’t know all of the rules governing his sport. In a world where McNabb didn’t know about ties, I’m not shocked at the lack of knowledge by any player.

        • Maggie

          Has the actual, real schedule been released yet?

      • Eagles1018

        Yea but we could open our season on the road and play them for our home opener……

        • MediaMike

          I’d be down with that!

    • JosephR2225

      His will be an interesting contract situation to keep an eye on. They seem determined to play him in the slot, but if he has another season like last year I imagine he will want to play outside, and to get paid like a guy who plays outside.

    • Token

      Just a shame he wont be around for long.

      • Eagles1018

        Hold your tongue!! I’m from the same school of thought Geagle is from…..DEFENSE!!! Boykin has been the best DB we’ve had in recent years. We need him. Hope he gets an extension. Where he plays (outside or slot ) who knows

        • Token

          The kid aint gonna sign here to play the slot.

          • Adam G

            Just a feeling another team will pay him a decent amount more than the Eagles will be willing to pay him. Guess we will see in 2 years.

          • peteike

            theres still time, I dont see our current outside guys being around that long

          • Eagles1018

            I’d think not. He’s got decent size for the outside. And he’s due the new contract next season. It’d be fair to assume we don’t go CB early in the draft. Either Barr/Pryor/ODB/Cooks or trade back IMO.

          • Maggie

            But will he be as effective outside?

  • Tom w

    Take whichever qb is there at 22. Teddy or carr and hold a 21 hour auction to the highest bidder for his rights to any qb needy team in the top 11 of the draft. Start a bidding war. Get atleast a 2, 3, and 4 out of it.

    • Joe L

      And when they don’t bow to your demands, you’re stuck with a QB! Solid strategy.

    • Amar (India)

      Offer to send his severed finger if the don’t comply….Wait, wrong thread !

  • HazleEagle

    Not too shabby… I’d be pretty happy with this haul:

    22

    ILB

    C.J. MOSLEY

    ALABAMA

    54

    WR

    ALLEN ROBINSON

    PENN STATE

    86

    DE

    MARCUS SMITH

    LOUISVILLE

    122

    C

    MARCUS MARTIN

    USC

    162

    CB

    AARON COLVIN

    OKLAHOMA

    237

    DE

    AARON LYNCH

    USF

    • Richard Colton

      great haul Tom. But you know we would all be sweating hoping Smith is still there in round three.

    • peteike

      love those first 3 picks, thatd work

  • DEBO 215

    Then you trade back to a team that is looking for a QB and pick up some picks…BPA is a great strategy but you’re not taking a QB at 22…Or maybe you take the BPA that’s not a QB…

  • cliff henny

    look at Elliot shores-park thinking….LaMichael James for Bryce Brown.

    • DEBO 215

      I’d be a big fan of that move.

    • Adam G

      Don’t see why the Niners would do that. Kind of neutralizes the reason they are trading him.

      • cliff henny

        not sure I follow. fumbles? hey, everyone likes telling he BB doesn’t fumble anymore, now he just needs to learn how to jump over chalk.

        • Adam G

          I mean they would trade him bc their backfield is a little crowded right now. Trading him for Bryce Brown doesn’t really do much for them considering they have Marcus Lattimore this season.

          • cliff henny

            Spurrier ran him right into ground. those weren’t basic ACLs. 2nd one, only thing keeping bottom part of leg attached was skin. i’d take BB as insurance, wont be huge market for either in trade. least they’ll get something. saves Eagles on drafting RB and hybrid slot. think it makes a lot of sense for both sides

          • Adam G

            Then why not just keep James who is a better prospect?

          • cliff henny

            SF is shopping him, they’ve lost confidence in him I suppose. i’d rather have LJ over BB all day too, but LJ is for sale. not sure whole reason.

          • peteike

            3rd string TEs yesterday, 3rd strong RBs today. Not sure BB doesnt have a higher ceiling though if given a real opportunity. Id prefer they trade him for late round picks but doubt thats happening.

    • eaglefansocal

      Do it now! Except I am not sure what to do with him and Sproles, except maybe have James be an understudy for 2 years under Sproles before taking over for him.

      • cliff henny

        guess a lot depends on if Sproles was traded for because of talent level to great to pass on, or if kelly really wants that hybrid RB/WR(leaning latter cause of Spiller rumor). then have to figure in guys like McKinnon, DAT and Dri, see where they fall in draft, and who they like more.

  • Explorer51

    This is an excerpt from Chip Kelly at the NFL Meetings last month; it echoes what he’s said about Matt Barkley before…maybe we should listen to what he says instead of constantly painting the Eagles as a one QB team?

    “Speaking at the NFL meetings on Wednesday, Eagles coach Chip Kelly indicated he was looking forward to having an entire offseason to work with Barkley, who had four picks, three fumbles and no TD passes in three appearances as a rookie.

    “I thought I saw him improve his arm,” Kelly said, according to an interview transcript furnished by the Pro Football Writers of America. “He was a little hurt coming out of college. But I’m excited about where he is and getting chance to fully work with him.

    “When you miss OTAs and that Phase One part of the program and the Phase Two part when guys are throwing and working on mechanics, he wasn’t here yet because we hadn’t drafted him.

    “The fact that we can get him in and participate in the full offseason program, we’re excited about where he is.”

    For Barkley, building on his first NFL season — and leveraging everything he’s already learned in Kelly’s system — will be key in whether he goes up from No. 3 to No. 2 on the depth chart.”

  • Will

  • Bud Weiser

    Nick Foles (57.8): Foles had a 1-5 record with a 44.9
    QBR score as a starter under Andy Reid in 2012, but he was significantly
    better under Chip Kelly last season. “Let’s judge him in Kelly’s
    system, where he will be judged going forward,” Polian said. “The
    numbers are very favorable.”

    Williamson said he liked Foles as a prospect, but he also thought Foles **benefited from some favorable luck.** “A few years ago, Josh Freeman
    got away with bad decisions and had a good touchdown-to-interception
    ratio, and Foles had a little bit of that last season,” he said. “Right
    now, the perception is that he is better than he is. I have more faith
    in RG III or even Tannehill at this point.”

    • botto

      good for him.
      I’d take foles over those guys no quesiton.
      and i sure hope he has some luck, can’t win without it.
      i think its more Kelly’s style that helps him not throw INT’s.
      but luck helps. ain’t nothing wrong with that