Draft Daily: Close-Up On Louisville OLB Marcus Smith

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The Eagles have done little to hide the fact that they’re big fans of Dolphins edge defender Dion Jordan.

Last year, Chip Kelly indicated that Jordan was high on the team’s board and would have been the pick had Miami not traded up to the No. 3 spot. And more recently, the Birds have been rumored to be looking to trade for Jordan in his second season.


Connor Barwin and Trent Cole manned the OLB spots in the Eagles' 3-4 last year. The defense could use more pass-rush from that pair, but overall, the transition to a new scheme was smoother than expected. Cole, however, will turn 32 next season, and the Eagles have little in the pipeline to eventually replace him.

That brings us to May's draft and a player who in some ways could be described as a poor man's Dion Jordan: Louisville's Marcus Smith. Smith is one of 30 prospects to make an official visit to Philadelphia, per FoxSports.com.

The 6-3, 251-pounder finished second in the nation last year with 14.5 sacks and tested well in several categories at the combine:

Kelly has on multiple occasions outlined the three things the Eagles want from the OLB position: a player who can set the edge against the run, rush the passer and drop back into coverage.

Louisville showed multiple looks defensively last year, but Smith was asked to do all three of those things and lined up in a variety of places.

On this play, Smith is standing up on the left side on a 4th-and-1 play against Miami:

He takes on the tight end, sets the edge and gets to the ball-carrier.

I mentioned earlier that the Cardinals lined Smith up in a variety of spots. Here, they use the "psycho" front with defenders standing up near the line of scrimmage. Smith is on the inside, but beats the guard with his quickness and gets to the quarterback.

On many of the sacks/pressures I saw, scheme played a large role. Louisville did a fantastic job of getting Smith unblocked or matched up against running backs. He used his quickness and took advantage. But NFL teams will have to project a bit about whether Smith can consistently beat tackles one-on-one at the professional level.

Here, he's got his hand in the ground at left defensive end against Houston, beats the left tackle and forces the QB to step up into a hit:

Smith even set up at defensive tackle on some snaps, but at 251 pounds, that's not happening in the NFL.

He was recruited to Louisville as a quarterback, so it's important to remember Smith is still relatively new to the position. But with his size, length (34-inch arms) and athleticism, he has a lot of tools to work with.

Smith can cover too. Here, he lines up across the slot, gets downfield and breaks up a pass:

Here's another example of Smith in coverage, this time in zone. He drops back, hugs up on the nearest receiver and forces the QB to scramble:

As you can see, there's plenty to like about Smith.

According to NFL.com, Smith is expected to be a third- or fourth-round pick. Given what we know about the Eagles' defense and Smith's skill set, he's absolutely someone the team could target on Day 2 or 3 of the draft.

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  • GEAGLE

    Really think he is top on our list

    • Brandon Boykin, LOL

      If Marcus Smith gets drafted by us, I’ll pry go ahead and buy a jersey.

    • Breakerdog

      I think this kid is Shazier light. The gap between the two isn’t worth the 50-60 draft spots that will be in between them.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Have to disagree. Shazier needs to add a ton of weight, wear some lifts and looks better as an ILB in NFL to me.

    • cliff henny

      Mcshay is half right, i’ll leave it to you to decide which part I agree with.

      • GEAGLE

        MORE LBs!!!!!

        • cliff henny

          heck yeah…play kill the qb! but focus will always be on offense. aint no way Kelly’s not leaving this draft without more weapons

          • GEAGLE

            No doubt,,,Sproles, Ertz, Casey!Benn and Brad smith are the only Chip Kelly weapons we have. You can bet more are on the way

  • GEAGLE

    Sheil hit me with the “rope a dope this morning”….got my blood boiling with desean crap and then hit me with an overhand right with my favorite prospect!!!

    Suggestion, do one of these on Deandre Coleman, it will make you look good after the draft. Coleman is taking Sqaures spot

    • cheapmeat

      Haha. If nothing else Geagle, I love the confidence.

      • GEAGLE

        He is a Bennie Logan clone with better size you can get in round 5 or 6, played in the PAC 12 and Chip tried to recruit him….long long Logan type arms, ideal two gapper

    • cliff henny

      this a new guy you found? haven’t heard you say his name before

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah, just discovered him this morning :)
        Eagles will prioritize getting off the field on 3rd down in this draft, NT is the last position that helps in that aspect…a NT won’t be drafted early, but square can’t continue to back up Logan…better find a NT who can play in rounds 5-6…

        • cliff henny

          there’s a d2 wr out of Saginaw, might want to check him out too

          • GEAGLE

            Gotta watch the Cody kid from Indiana everyone raves about without ever probably even seeing him play :)

          • Andy124

            You should check out Nick Foles while you’re at it. Hear he might not totally suck.

          • GEAGLE

            For what? Everyone knows he can’t play for Chip Kelly. If we can’t trade him we will cut him to make room for Terrell Prior or Logan Thomas

          • Andy124

            You obviously don’t know crap about football. Nick is 6’6″ with very large hands and some experience at QB and basketball. He’s our perfect OLBTE hybrid superstar in the making!

    • Will

      I have that’s why I checked him out when looking at Pryor Geagle has most defiantly been on the kid’s band wagon for a while now…

    • myeaglescantwin

      Coleman can step in and be that reserve DL we need. Dudes massive enough to play across the boards.
      worth a late round selection

  • Neanderthal

    Does he last til 3rd rd 22?
    Nil.com seems really messed up with draft rankings

    • GEAGLE

      Probably not, because of the lack of quality pass rusher and it being such a valued position where it costs you a minimum of 20mil in Guarentees if you want to go the free agent route

  • eaglefansocal

    If we don’t have to move up more than 3 or 4 spots I can see us moving up to take Barr or maybe even getting him at 22. If we don’t get Barr I hope we trade back from our 2nd round pick into the early 3rd round, pick Smith there and pick up an extra pick. We could pick up a receiver in the 1st round or with our regular 3rd round pick then.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Smith isn’t lasting until 3rd rd. Not with his well rounded skill set. I think he’s the most complete OLB in draft after Mack, but is a better pure pass rusher. He just does everything well and doesn’t look awkward at all when moved all over. That says a ton considering he’s played defense for only a few yrs. I suspect that he’s high on the radar of teams like PIT & BAL that love themselves some LBs.

      One thing Sheil didn’t mention is that when lined up at DT, he was able to push back the double teams he faced and also still get pressure on the QB. That speaks well to his lower body strength in order to take on NFL LTs head-on.

      This kid doesn’t have the boom potential of Barr, but at worst will make for a very solid pro & could potentially steal the job from Cole before season’s end once he settles in.

  • GEAGLE

    Check out the play in the Miami game,where he doesn’t bite on play action fake, gets In the QBs face quickly, jumps up and bats his pass down

  • paul from nc

    The spider chart shows he is very low in height, weight and 3 cone. But is good in the athletic areas and speed. If he has the heart, probably a good 3rd rounder.

    • Breakerdog

      That is because he is up against DE on that chart. He projects as an 3-4 OLB.

      • mtn_green

        Sometimes spiders lie

        • Richard Colton

          sometimes they listen to the whispering of little birds

          • Andy124

            Sometimes they make best friends with a pig and weave superlatives in to their webs to keep the pig from being turned in to bacon. True story.

          • Richard Colton

            I was making a GOT reference and you had to go all literary on me. Typical Andy.

          • Andy124

            Literary? I’m all about the animated movie. That crap almost made me cry, but I’ve grown up a lot since then… March was so long ago.

            I really want to watch GoT someday.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            PLEASE NO SPOILERS ON THIS SITE

            i haven’t started the new season yet, trying to get a friend’s HBO GO pass, i’ll pull a Ray Lewis on whoever spoils this!

          • Andy124

            What rob said.

          • Richard Colton

            Charlotte dies, Wilbur the Pig lives. Sorry about the spoilers.

          • Warhound

            Theon, Grey Worm and the Spider get together and tell the Kingslayer to stop whining and to get over his lost hand.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Aaaaah
            You’re dead to me

          • Eagles1018

            He’s some terrific, radiant, humble…

            Sorry, I have a daughter and I like to… She likes to watch that movie

          • Johnny Domino

            Hmmmm, bacon.

    • Johnny Domino

      All the more reason he should drop 20 lbs. and play safety.

  • GEAGLE

    Sheil while he won’t line up at DT in the NFL,showing that play is important because when we go to our 4man line our DEs do a lot of twisting and stunting inside while our DTs loop around them to the outside..often we also send Kendricks! Meco or both blowing up the A gap,..
    ..,
    The OLB the eagles draft will have to be able to stick his hand in the dirt rushing as a DE on a 4 man line, and also rush the QB standing up as an OLB when we are in an odd front…Marcus and Attachou fit this bill

  • mtn_green

    These draft articles are awesome!!!

    I’ve got a suggestion why not pick two same position players and similar expected draft position and have a one on one SMACKDOWN. For example:

    “Trent Murphy Vs. Marcus Smith (Battle of the 3rd Round OLBs)”

    The videos and content are awesome it is just hard to gauge value without looking at other similar prospects. Besides controversy sells eyeballs.

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah…side by side comparison of Marcus and Attachou would b awesome

      • Adam G

        Attachou didn’t partake in combine. His numbers are from his pro day which mockdraftable doesn’t use.

  • Richard Colton

    A lot to like about this kid. Anyone think 54 is too high to take him?

    • GEAGLE

      Not if you want him…lack of pass rusher in this draft will move Attachou and Marcus up a round.. Mock community doesn’t factor in just how more valued pass rushers in than most positions..just look at how much a position costs in free agency…dudes who never even started a season like Everson Griffin got 20millipn GUARENTEED dolla dolla billz y’all….he won’t be on the board when we pick in round 3, even if sites like Walterfootball still have him going at the beginning of round 4..,..wish we could have him fall to us in the 3rd but IMO that would be playing with fire, and I’d rather not get burned

      • Will

        Figure the Birds go WR, then OLB in this draft…

        • GEAGLE

          Not so sure…
          You probably will get better overall value if you go OLB first, WR second…the WR you get will probably have a similar grade to the OLB you drafted first, it’s just that deep….where as pass rushers could dry up really quick, and you are left with a much different grade from the WR you drafted first

          • Will

            Good point Attaochu should be there at #22…Bejamin, Moncrief, and Matthews one should be available at #54…

          • Richard Colton

            I think #22 might be too high to take a boom/bust guy like Attaouchu. He’s a guy I wouldn’t mind trading back or waiting for.

          • Will

            Mack and Barr will be gone by #22 who’s 3rd best at ROLB?

          • GEAGLE

            Get as far away from 22 as we can…keeping that pick would be horrible in my eyes

          • Will

            If Evans, Barr or Pryor is there they pull the trigger if not agree trade back for more picks….

          • Richard Colton

            It’s insane that Barr might actually be that guy! I think there’s a chance we come away from this draft with Barr, Van Noy, and Moncreif.

          • Andy124

            You had me at Barr. Bet your wine glass gets along with him too.

          • Richard Colton

            he and I agree on OLBs and Sonoma Merlots, that’s about it.

          • Andy124

            Mmmmmmm, Merlot. Haven’t had one in quite a while. Been sticking to cabernet and random varietals lately. I’m definitely due for a Merlot.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            can’t do that dry stuff.
            when i was in peru and argentina, got a little hooked on malbec, about the only drink i’ll consume these days that isn’t a bourbon

          • Andy124

            There is such a thing as too dry, I just haven’t met it yet.

          • GEAGLE

            Jesus dude…you will make me spontaneously combust if that happens. If it happens I vow to never say Dion Jordan’s name again

          • Richard Colton

            it’s a bad question because of scheme fit & team. Let’s ask it this way: after Clowney, Mack and (maybe) Barr, who are the next best edge players? I’m not seeing consistent top 50 love for Attaouchu.

          • Will

            With just 6 picks doesn’t give us a lot of wiggle room…

        • Richard Colton

          In an ideal world, I’d like to see some combo of WR/OL/OLB/ILB/S in rounds 1-5. Knowing how the Eagles draft, that won’t happen. Fun to dream though.

      • Adam G

        That absolutely is factored in already. You’re not figuring something out by saying pass rushers are coveted. That’s all known information.

        • GEAGLE

          You are on crack if you think this kid will be on the board when round 4 begins

          • Adam G

            I really don’t think one way or the other, but I would think just saying the high demand of pass rushers will cause him to be picked way earlier than projected is not accurate. That is definitely a known thing, the same as the devaluing of RBs and the valuing of QBs.

          • GEAGLE

            You can’t list Marcus smith in the 4th round if you have factored in the value of pass rushers, and how it’s one of the weakest positions in this draft….I mean they list like 37 CBs getting drafted before Marcus come off the board and that’s absurd

          • Adam G

            Except he wasn’t in Kiper’s either. These guys have at least a little inside info. You can’t just write all of that off. And yes, you can if the general consensus is that he won’t translate. These guys for sure factor in value of positions. To say they don’t is just shortsighted.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m not even talking about Kiper. I literally have no clue what his opinion of Marcus is….I was refrencing Walterfootball….McShay and Kiper have plenty of inside information, the problem is they are perfect vehicles for misinformation…I almost prefer someone who is just watching tape and giving you his own opinion, more than guys like Kiper who FACTOR in what they hear….can’t exactly take them as gospel either when literally 3 months ago mcshay was saying jernigan was a top 5 pick

          • Adam G

            Yes but I think we are talking about two different things. If you think a guy is bpa at 22, but will almost definitely be there at 54, you shouldn’t take him at 22, which is what these guys think about when mocking. The mock in round 1 for kiper looks very different than his big board.

          • GEAGLE

            Absolutely…but IMO I think if this dude is on your board at 54, you are insane to assume lasts til 88 and I don’t care which analyst disagrees

          • Adam G

            Here’s the question, you think that would follow the BPA strategy? Odds are there is somebody you have higher on your board that slips to that 2nd round pick, no?

          • GEAGLE

            Problem is the grades NFL people give often differ drastically from what you see in Mocks…if you want to make the BPA argument, then every mock is worthless crap because they are all heavily based on need….the BPA line is cute, when in reality in the first few rounds you are usually picking between similarly graded prospect….Do I think he would take a RB we have an 8.2 grade on because he is ahead of the OLB with the 8.0? NOPE!!! Don’t believe that at all…BPA really starts to come into play around the 4th when you see a guy who you thought would be drafted two rounds earlier left on your board.THEN you take him regardless of the position…so this oversimplified view pf BPA is crap in my eyes…just a Howie line, all GMs use…it’s the equivalent of NO COMMENT, nothing more

          • Jerry Pomroy

            There are experts that feel that Smith has the potential to sneak into late first rd. He’s not a project, he’s already a well rounded player that can contribute quickly and that’s a lot to be said for a guy playing defense for only 3yrs. I see him as a mid-2nd talent.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            There is no such thing as “insider info” when it comes to the draft.

            I think it was Kempski who broke it down awhile ago; went back 5 years and looked at mock vs. real drafts. very very little correlation

            I could mock with as much authority as half these “experts”

          • Adam G

            You mean like when Kempski writes the Eagles have interest in a specific player? Its out there, just not a lot of people have it.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            no, completely different. anyone, including you or I, can go look at the accuracy these mock guys have. it is laughable.

            Louis Riddick said the same on twitter the other day- these rounds/grades mean nothing except to fans.

            the draft is fun, the buildup is ridiculous, just try not to get so absorbed in what others say.

          • Adam G

            Yes, I hear you. But the general area of a where a player is taken usually corresponds to the consensus of the “experts”. There are a ton of examples when teams have reached by a round or two, and it more likely than not has turned out badly. Eagles are guilty of that as well.

          • Andy124

            What I’d like to see is a breakdown of success rate of players by draft position vs. success rate of players by “expert predicted” draft position with special attention paid to players who’s draft position was significantly different from their “expert predicted” draft position.

          • guest

            You would have said the same thing about Jordan Poyer last year, right? No one expected him on the board after the 3rd round. Definitely not after the 4th. But if I had posted a mock in these comments last year with the Eagles getting Poyer in the 7th, you would have accused me of being on crack.

            I think I’ll write 100 different posts declaring someone “my guy” so that way, come May, I’ll be right about some of them. Seriously, how many 2nd and 3rd round picks do you think the Eagles have? I’ve seen you call for at least 10 guys that the Eagles need to get on Day 2.

            You’re not breaking any news. You’re not the first guy to mention Marcus Smith. You’re not the first guy to mention ANY of these guys. You dont know Howie Roseman. You dont know Chip Kelly. You are not a scout. You’ve never been a scout. You dont know what Billy Davis is looking for, specifically. You dont know what Bob Bicknell looks for, specifically. Yet you continue to talk in absolutes and post on here like you’re some f-ing big shot. Like you’re better than anyone. Its pathetic. Its a comment section on a blog.
            You do make intelligent arguments most of the time, but you take this stuff way too seriously (i’m referring to commenting here, not the Eagles. We ALL take the Eagles too seriously…thats what makes it fun)

          • Adam G

            Pretty serious burn right there, really sums it up though.

          • Max Lightfoot

            In a nutshell.

    • Kuzzbill

      I think its going to take a trade back from round 1 in to early mid round 2 to get him.

      • cliff henny

        hear this stuff…fact is, he’s 3rd/4th rounder pretty much everywhere. if he gets pick mid 2nd, great, just pushes someone better to #54. all 3rds and probably to mid 4th will be mocked at some point in top 50. why I don’t care if it’s M Smith or atta-guy, like the volume of options, just like WR. good draft to be hunting for big WRs and LBs. hope eags pick right guys

        • Richard Colton

          by “right guy” – Cliff means 3 consecutive Wide Receivers

          • cliff henny

            trust me, I as happy as anyone going to Blitzburg 3-4. play kill the qb, cause some TOs. difference is, Kelly will hang 50 instead of milking 23-16 win

          • Andy124

            Blitzburg – jealous.
            —-
            Blitzadelphia.
            City of Brotherly Blitz.
            Sackadelphia.
            Philadelphia Blitzkreigles.

            I got nuthin.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Blitzadelphia could work. City of Blitz

    • eaglefansocal

      Trade back in 2nd round into early 3rd to get Smith if we don’t get Barr in the 1st (18 to 22 pick). This way we can get an early 4th also and maybe a late rd pick as well and get our receiver with our 1st rd pick.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Smith will not be there in the 3rd. I have doubts he makes it to 54. He’s just too good a well rounded prospect for 3-4 teams like PIT for example to pass up. A guy that can literally be on the field in any package is very valuable. Plus he’s a pass rusher & will most likely be on par with Mack as far as how quickly they adapt to NFL game.

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah I’m seriously concerned he doesn’t last to 54

  • Will

    Not if there’s a run on OLB’s…needs to bulk up but I would like the pick…

  • cliff henny

    guy looks impressive. assuming at 251, ex-qb he’s still in process of adding weight. really need a tradedown in 1st so can get 2 or 3 lbs including or like Smith to play kill the qb on 3rd and longs. still get big balls Chip more weapons to hang 50.

    • GEAGLE

      Need to get 30 and 77 from San Fran,,,.then let a team trade up to 30 from round two to secure Garrapolo, and trade down into round two to get an extra 4th…end up with something like:
      Rd2 #6
      Rd2 #22
      rd3 #12
      Rd3 #22
      rd4 #6
      Rd 4 #22
      ….
      We won’t pick in round 1, but we could come away with something similar trading down twice from 22…we could still get something like Van Noy, Marcus…and still get Chip 2 serious WR talents and a TE or maybe even RB Tre Mason

      • cliff henny

        think tradeback is more likely at #22 for qb. after Smith’s meltdown and Bowman pretzeling his leg, I doubt SF is going to mess around. they’ll move up to 10 range, if not hunt for Mack.
        .
        Howie, get 6 picks from 2nd -4th, take 3 lbs, 2 wrs and rb…and no, have no idea how

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I actually think he dropped some weight for combine. I believe he played last year slightly over 260lbs. The weight he’s at now is about what he weighed in 2012. And in 2011, his first year on defense, he started out at 245lbs when he played 9 games exclusively at OLB, before being moved to DE.

      One thing that really stands out, as Geags will agree, is that you can see how this kid’s just got a knack for seeing the field in front of him. He never looks out of place despite where they put him. That means he’ll adapt and contribute quickly.

      I think he’s much more suited to play OLB as his primary position. But he can certainly put his hand in the dirt. There has been some talk about teams possibly eyeing him as a 4 down DE in 4-3. But I think that really takes away from his potential. He could do it, but I feel it’s a waste of his talents.

      • GEAGLE

        Preach!!! Jerry just took you to CHURCH!!!

        When drafting LBs, I really like the prospects who were used in different roles from on year to the next and who still maintained their level of excellence. Guys like KVN, Attaboy, Marcus….and then when you find one who handles so many different things, so soon after converting to the position! those are the kids I want to pounce on..Because even if they bust in one aspect, a good DC can still find a role for them that they can succeed in, which is the staple of Seahawks defense. They don’t even care what you can’t do..they find what you are good at, and put you in a role that only asks that of you…this is achieved with all kinds of subpackages which is why they play so many more defenders than we played last year….Meco seeing less snaps isn’t a demotion, we need subpackage alternatives to counter different sets and throw different looks at QBs

        Whether it’s rushing the passer, setting the edge, dropping into coverage…this kid will be special at something, with as much chance as any prospect to be the best combination of all 3..,.we have to land him

      • cliff henny

        eagles do seem to have a thing for ex TEs/QBs. sure it has to do with being positions needing high FB IQs

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Smith has that. His field vision is excellent for such an abrupt transition.

          He is still growing into his new body though. While he’s just an inch shorter than Barwin (6’4″-264), he’s grown in mass but isn’t quite as chiseled. However, I do believe that once in an NFL training program like the Eagles (sports science & all), I think he’ll chisel up and not only become stronger, but quicker than he already is. He could go back up to 260 & be leaner and faster.

          • cliff henny

            slow 20 yd shuttle and 3 cone aren’t an issue? look little low, and that’s for D-End. doesn’t scream freak athlete like couple of these other olb prospects. you like him, good enough for me, do think you know your stuff. long as it’s addressed with right guys, i’ll be happy

          • Corey Dawson

            I thought the same thing. They’re an indicator of ability to change direction quickly. If he’s weak there, it could hurt him in coverage. Sheil’s highlights didn’t really show much coverage to assess if he just tested bad or if he really does have slow change of direction. The other 2 aspects of OLB play (edge rushing, edge setting) wouldn’t really be impacted by low scores there since they are more about power/strength and straight line explosiveness.

          • cliff henny

            thanks, very helpful. know each leg of graph mean something for each position, appreciate the help. long as he can get to qb, take some minor coverage issues. 12-15 sacks couple FF, and I wont care one bit about RB getting 8 instead of 5 on swing pass twice a game.

          • Corey Dawson

            Yep. The shuttle and cone are indicators of ability to change direction, which comes into play in coverage and to a lesser extent stunting. The vertical jump and broad jump are indicators of pure leg power off the line. The dashes are indicators of top end speed (more the 40 yard dash) and acceleration (more the 10 yard dash). Bench is obviously chest strength, which helps with the ability to get off blocks for a dlineman and linebackers.

  • Shane Brown

    If you watch some of his tape, he definitely has the ability to drop into coverage. He’s also got great awareness, which contributes to his knack for batting the ball down at the l.o.s. He’s also a great speed rusher. He will need to develop a better pass rushing technique in order to beat NFL tackles, but his speed will at least allow him to blow past linemen on occasion. If we drafted him, Cole would still be the starter at least for this year, and Smith could come in to spell him on passing downs.

    Some people believe that at the OLB spot opposite of Barwin, we need a guy that is just a pass rushing specialist. I’ve never looked at it that way. We need to develop another OLB like Barwin. He has shown the ability to rush the passer in the past – 11.5 sacks in 2011 – and if we had another OLB like him then it would allow us to mix which guys are rushing the passer. I don’t want a guy that rushes the passer on 80 or 90% of the downs to play that position for us. If we can add another versatile piece to that other outside spot, then it would create a better balance and would allow Barwin to become more of a traditional 3-4 OLB than a “jack of all trades.” While i think that role is still valuable, imagine if we had two of that kind of player, with one of them being a decent pash rusher (Barwin) and one of them possibly being elite (Smith with some more coaching). I do not believe that Barwin will be a double digit sack guy again, but he still has some pass rushing ability. Enough to where the defensive front won’t always be predictable

    Bottom Line on Smith:
    He sets the edge on run plays well
    He uses his great speed to rush the passer well
    He has the athleticism to drop into coverage and size to match up with TEs
    Has great instinct and awareness near the L.O.S.
    He played OLB in college, which means he is not making a position change. This will help in development early on.

    While he may not have as high of a ceiling as the other pass rushing prospects in this draft, i think he has more ability than most of them to step up right away and become a playmaker.

    I think he is a blue-chip player. In my eyes, this guy could come in during his rookie year and play 30-40% of the snaps and make a difference.

    (Copy and pasted from my comment at BGN this morning)

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I think you and I see Smith in exactly the same light. I pretty much said the same thing below in response to eaglesfanlocal.

      Smith will come in and catch on quickly.

      • Will

        A much better option than Will Clarke…

        • Tom w

          Depends Clarke would be a fourth rounder and has more upside rushing the passer. Depends what chip and Davis want our rolb to be. And we know chip prefers height and long arms

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Have to agree with Tom below. He’s a better athlete than Clarke and will transition to the NFL quicker. Clarke is the guy that I mentioned as a fall back if Barr’s outta reach and we miss on Smith. I don’t want Ford, and would prefer Smith or Clarke over Attaochu.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup…I’m on the Clarke fallback wagon…but certainly a tier below attaboy/Marcus darling

    • Warhound

      Thank You! I think that they play a 3-4 to allow for more deception in the pass rush. I doubt Kelly/Davis want an OLB who rushes 80-90% of the time. More like the 4th rusher would be: ROLB – 60%, LOLB – 30%, ILBs – 10%. Heck maybe even 45/45/10…..

    • brza

      Exactly, if they really wanted one OLB to rush 90% and the other to mainly cover they could have stuck with the 4-3. Kelly specificially said he wanted a 3-4 because it was more difficult for the opposing offense if they didn’t know where the rush would come from.

  • NickS1

    Out of curiosity, why is his spider chart compared with other DEs, as opposed to other OLBs? Are the two positions grouped together?

    • Andy124

      My first observation as well. Renders it impotent in my eyes.

    • GEAGLE

      Because he was tested as a DE..Attaboy,Marcus!Demarcus Lawrence! think the Oregon state kid all were grouped with the DEs, which is dumb because I think they also get grouped with 3-4DEs like Brent urban, not 100 positive..but if that’s correct it’s like comparing Thornton to Connar Barwin

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Plus he was technically listed as a DE for the past 2yrs, although he moved all over from side to side, inside/outside, 2pt/3pt. He looks like the prototype for a “Steelers” OLB.

      The only time he played exclusively as OLB was in 2011 where he played there for 9 games, when he first transitioned over to defense from QB.

      • NickS1

        Good stuff, thanks JP.

  • Tom w

    Don’t get greedy. Gotta take him at 54 bc attaboy is gone be takin by the saints in the first or ravens in the second. Could live w Trent Murphy in the third or West Virginia d end in the fourth but different type of players and more risk.

    Would almost call for a trade up in rd 2 if attaboy or Marcus gets takin mid second round. Can’t afford to let someone else take them. Hope Marcus’s frame allows for more weight

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Smith played heavier last season than his combine weight. I think he checked in at 261lbs when I first started looking at him months ago and well before combine.

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    sheil:

    paragraph leading up to the 3rd video, he’s lined up at LDE and beats the right tackle

    Here, he’s got his hand in the ground at left defensive end against Houston, beats the left tackle and forces the QB to step up into a hit:

    • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

      That’s one hell of a stunt!

  • GEAGLE

    Dolphins GM doing damage control talking up how excited they are about Dion…must be nice to have your media not completely devalue a TRADEable asset….if that rumor happened in this city, our media would throw so much fire on trading away a first round pick of a year ago rumor that we would b lucky to get a 6th round pick for him

    • cliff henny

      slightly difference level of passion/interest between local fan bases too. not going to stir a hornets nest with sensationalizing something, they don’t care as much as we do.

    • travis papa

      If Evans or Barr or someone doesn’t fall unexpectedly to #22 then chip is taking Dion Jordan at 22. Everything else will hinge from there. Can’t tell me it spoke volumes when he used the analogy with Sproles being a 5th rd pick in this draft. If he felt that Jordan was #4 last yr I’m sure he still feels he’s worth 22 straight up. They could try to trade back and use 30 the same way also plus Graham maybe.

      • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

        I hate that analogy. Sproles had been a great player in this league for 10 years, and that’s the problem. You could have gotten any number of scat backs in the 5th for less money, more years, with fewer miles. Sproles will hopefully be functional this year, but for how long? You could have gotten the same uncertainty with higher range potential from that 5th. The only thing that will save that trade, aside from the fountain of youth, is if it allows them to trade Bryce for a 4th or better.

        • travis papa

          I agree 100% I was just using that analogy to drive home the use of 22 on Jordan. I’d prefer to have the pick back and use it on someone like that McKinnon kid whose a scat back & tested off the charts at the combine even if he doesnt pan out or even make the team. The compounded the problem by extending him. Goes all against the big people little people philosophy. I hate it.

  • GEAGLE

    Experts are starting to talk about Demarcus Lawrence in the 35-45 range,,,consider yourself fortunate if this kid is on the board at 54

    • Corey Dawson

      Sounds like a great option if we trade back from 22.

    • Tom W

      Didn’t see it on tape at all. didn’t look overly athletic against stiff competition. and he was suspended like 35 times.

  • JofreyRice

    Finally watched these 2 cutups. I’d be OK with Smith in the second, no higher. He’s functional in the three facets a 3-4 OLB needs: pass rush, run defense, and coverage. I think the higher football IQ from playing QB shines through in terms of his instincts and vision. He actually is high-motor, nice long arms, and shows some coverage chops, in terms of fluidity. He’s beaten a little too often when matched up with a tackle in pass rush situtations, for me to really be over the moon about him. Reminds me a bit of Barwin. UH’s right tackle, with his cement feet, was stopping him one on one more times than I would have liked.

    I do like him better than Attaochu. I still think Dee Ford gives you more as a pure passrusher, in his explosion and movement, but agree with the folks that say he’s probably not going to be on the Eagles radar due to less than ideal measurables and lack of versatility. I don’t think you’d have a bust on your hands with Smith under any circumstances. I think he’ll be a solid pro.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Coming around. I think solid pro is Marcus’ low end potential considering he’s been playing defense for 3yrs and has consistently gotten better each year. Think he’ll be a consistent double digit sack guy in the low teens. Of course the difference between that and all-pro could be a matter of 2-3 sacks either way. Not saying he’ll be knocking on the sack record door, but he may make a few pro bowls.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    Every time I look at a spider graph I think of “The Batwing” from the movie Waiting.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    KVN – ALL DAY.

  • adam

    “third or fourth round pick

  • S V

    The spider chart of Marcus Smith is somewhat misleading because he’s compared to other 4-3 Defensive Ends and not 3-4 Outside Linebackers. It shows him as being fast for his position, but in fact, he’s probably closer to just average. OLBs usually tend to be faster than 43 Defensive Ends.

  • Scott J

    Who’s comments are getting deleted?

  • brza

    Smith’s 3-cone and 20 yard shuttles weren’t good but otherwise very similar chart to Barr. Seems to have a bit more strength (Bench & Jumps), same speed (40 and 10) but nowhere close to Barr’s agility CoD (3 cone and shuttle).

    http://mockdraftable.com/player/4376/

    http://mockdraftable.com/player/4610/