Eagles Sign Safety Malcolm Jenkins

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The Eagles have filled one of their safety holes with 26-year-old free agent Malcolm Jenkins.

It’s a three-year, $16.25M deal with $8.25M guaranteed, a league source tells Tim McManus.


The key word with Jenkins (6-0, 204) is versatility. He was originally a first-round pick out of Ohio State back in 2009 and played cornerback in college. According to Pro Football Focus, he played more slot snaps than any other safety in the league last year for the Saints.

"We really liked Malcolm’s versatility," said head coach Chip Kelly in a statement. "He can line up at either safety spot, can come in and make a tackle and can play man-to-man as well. I had a chance to study him on tape leading up to the playoff game and really liked what I saw. He’s a sharp kid and is ultra-competitive. We are really happy to have him in Philadelphia."

The addition of Jenkins will give the Eagles some versatility when teams try to spread them out because he has the ability to take on slot receivers and tight ends. He also could serve as Brandon Boykin's backup at nickel.

On the other hand, the Eagles need him at safety first and foremost. And Jenkins has done little to distinguish himself in that respect. Playing downfield, he hasn't proven to be much of a ball-hawk with six interceptions in six seasons. According to STATS, LLC, he had a total of eight passes defensed/intercepted in 2013. That ranked tied for 31st among safeties.

Jenkins played in the box 37.7 percent of the time on run snaps, per PFF (26th-most among the 63 safeties who played at least 50 percent of the snaps). But he wasn't much of a playmaker there, coming up with a stop just 2.6 percent of the time (56th out of 63 safeties).

PFF had him down for 16 missed tackles, fifth-most among safeties. And he ranked 62nd out of 67 safeties in overall tackling efficiency.

Per ESPN.com, Jenkins is considered a high-character locker room guy:

Jenkins is widely respected by coaches and teammates as a hard worker and film rat, who has been elected as a defensive captain each of the past two years.

The Eagles released Patrick Chung earlier in the day. Earl Wolff figures to compete for a starting job, but the team could still look to make another move at safety.

"Malcolm is someone we’ve had our eye on for quite a while," said GM Howie Roseman. "He has been a productive player his entire football career, both in New Orleans and at Ohio State. Everything you hear about Malcolm as a person is true. He was a two-time defensive captain with the Saints and is a high character player. We are excited to add a guy like that to the culture we have established here."

Bottom line: Jenkins is an adequate, starting-caliber safety with good size and versatility. This isn't a splash signing, and Jenkins has not shown that he has a Pro Bowl ceiling. But he should fit well into the locker room culture Chip Kelly is trying to establish.

Click here for the All-22 breakdown we did on Jenkins a few weeks ago. And click here for our running open thread with the latest free agency news.

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  • #7

    Eagles taking the safe route. Worked for us last year though….

  • PaoliBulldog

    Down vote for this signing. Too much money for someone who should be a third safety.

    • JofreyRice

      the guy blows. Howie’s pennypinching posse loves it though.

  • MoreViolence

    This is semi depressing.

  • stnickfoles

    Definitely don’t hate it. This way we don’t HAVE to get a safety in the draft

    • RC5000

      Yes they do. They need a safety badly. Jenkins is average.

    • IgglesRealist

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

    Time to get Ware. Right, Dick?

    • Richard Colton

      StemWare? You’ve already got it covered for me brother. Don’t want Ware; too much Dallas stink, not enough tred left.

      • #7

        Maybe as a situational pass rusher, but obviously he wouldn’t be down for that

        • Richard Colton

          not for the $$$ he’ll want

          • #7

            Exactly. That guy is near the end. He could preserve his body if he did this. Oh well.

          • #7

            What the hell man? Jenkins??? What is your reasoning on why we didn’t go after Byrd. Just money?

          • Richard Colton

            Dont tell me the Saints can afford him and we can’t

  • Joe Thomas

    Maybe works out like Troy Vincent all them years ago. Thats asking alot tho

  • Richard Colton

    Saints lose Jenkins to us, looks like thier consolation prize may be Byrd. Don’t worry about that fluke pick Drew – Kenny Vaccaro and J. Byrd have your back. Saints have no money, why are they players in this?

    • morgan c

      Seriously, can someone explain that? I know they cut a couple guys, but according to Barnwell at Grantland, they had only 2.5 in space, and even after cutting Moore and Thomas, they should have only 7.5, or 8 tops. But Byrd is guaranteed 9 in year 1?! I mean, it just seems like teams do this all the time – if you can circumvent the cap so easily, does “cap room” really even matter that much as we know it? Football seems more like baseball than the NBA or NHL even though there is a “hard cap.”

  • FluxCapacitor

    I think this is a good signing. Not the best talent, but possibly the best value.

    • knighn

      Agreed. Not something to get hyped about, but OK.

      There is NO safety in this free agency that gets me super excited… even Jairus Byrd. I get that he racked up a lot of INTs playing for Buffalo. I also understand that Byrd might be seriously challenged in a foot race by at least two of our O-linemen… and that was before the plantar fasciitis. Would still like Byrd’s signing more than Jenkins, but won’t do backflips over it – has a very high bust factor. At this point, would rather have Darrelle Revis.

      • sprawl

        “…he racked up a lot of INTs playing for Buffalo”

        Playing against the Jets twice a season always helps =)

  • Jerry Pomroy
    • Jerry Pomroy

      I have to believe that Ware becoming available added to the delay in announcing any signings.

    • Nfl All Day

      Just like we were in the final two for Byrd along with Washi……OH BYRDS HEADING TO NOLA! Speculators…go to hell

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Umm, Louis Riddick is the former Director of Pro Personnel for the Eagles. He’s not passing rumors, he’s giving informative opinion.

  • Eagles4Life

    So this guy essentially grades out as $hitty, and we sign him to help our preexisting safety problem. Genius.

    • thatoneguy

      the saints have 2 mil to spend. Byrd wants top dollar. It will fall through. Regardless he will be grossly over paid where ever he goes. I love this signing.

      • Eagles4Life

        This signing is no more than banking on untapped “potential,” which hasn’t really translated to much thus far in his career. We’d better be pairing him with more of a sure thing.

  • Engwrite

    Sounds like a clear improvement over Chung for about the same money.

    • #7

      I don’t think so…maybe a bit better..

      • phillylove21

        I’m guessing they wanted versatility at the safety to help our corners in up front zone coverage.. I remember him playing at Ohio state when he played against juice Williams.. Watched Jenkins and Ohio state the rest of the season.. I was very surprised he didn’t play corner.. He’ll wow us more than our safety play last year.. Getting good so far.. Donnie locked and now we have some more work to do..

        I see us drafting a stud in-the-box safety to complement Wolff.. Possibly another versatile player that can also play the back side safety.. I honestly feel this a major upgrade and Jenkins can help improve our secondary play.. Want someone to mold and mentor all 5-6 men to war on sunday’s? I wouldn’t mind.. But its one more edition coming either in draft or another freeagent.. Three safety’s will rotate and even play in the slot.. Wolff can cover slot receivers, tight ends, and play the box..

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Jenkins looks to be averaging $5.4M/yr with $8.5M guaranteed. That’s basically a two year deal. But significantly more than Chung by about $2M. Jenkins was every bit a value type signing.

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  • Joe L

    Geagle give me a spin on why you liked Jenkins so much despite his poor tackling and hated Mitchell for his poor tackling?

    And btw, I like the Jenkins signing. Solid player, won’t make many splash plays but he shouldn’t be a glaring weakness back there either.

    • Nfl All Day

      All ears…

    • mksp

      Don’t encourage him……

      • Joe L

        It’s an honest question! I wouldn’t have minded either signing as an upgrade over or current roster. Obviously would’ve liked one of the bigger names. But to see him bash Mitchell for 18 missed tackles and tout Jenkins who had 16 just makes me wonder why. It’s not like Jenkins is much of a ball hawk.

  • hrtak

    Now I fully expect CurtColeman extension. Good backup and good ST player

  • Stuart Philp

    The missed tackles is concerning. Safety’s above all have to be able to make the tackle.

    • guest

      Earl Thomas missed 14 tackles this season

      • NickS1

        He also made a lot more.

  • Stuart Philp

    You either go with the value guy or splurge on the best guy, we did neither here. Should have been $3.5 per not $5.5.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Getting what you pay for is good value. $5.5M isn’t ridiculous & is pretty much right on the nose based on the market so far.

      • Tom W

        It’s a missed opportunity if tj ward only get 5.5 a yr. gigantic misstep by birds if we don’t get Byrd or verner behind this

      • IgglesRealist

        Yeah. Thats what TJ Ward, a pro bowler, got in Denver. Of you know, we can give a stiff the same money and tell everyone how versatile he is and how smart we are. 1960 smart

    • guest

      Who says he’s making $5.5 million? the only number that matters is the guaranteed money, which was $8.5 million. And we have to see how the base salaries are structured. Maybe the 3rd year is bloated, meaning its really a cheap 2 year deal. Thats most likely the case, knowing Howie.

      • Stuart Philp

        No we don’t know how it breaks down yet, but even if the 8.5 is guaranteed for two seasons that 4.25 per. Do you think he is worth that, given this list?

        http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/safety/

      • IgglesRealist

        The fact that we signed a stiff thats going to tie up at least 8.5 million is the issue.

  • BrettConnolly

    from a cursory review of some game tape, jenkins seems to be ideally suited in a scheme like billy davis’ that prefers giving up an underneath route to protect the deep field. he has really great instincts and closes on the underneath routes with intensity and great timing.

  • Armchairgm3

    Love this signing. Called it yesterday. And was killed on this site for it.

    • oreofestar

      I will still kill anyone for saying it, you sound? why are you so happy?!?!?! you like Jenkins? Huh?!?! HUH!!!

      • Tikkit

        Totally agree. Mediocre at best. Chung redux at worst.

        • Tom W

          Yep. Money we paid is fine if we never pay his third yr but ward deal sounds like 5 for 28. Not that much. We coulda had him

          • Jeff Asay

            “Coulda had him.” is a pretty big assumption people are making. Let’s see, I can go to a team that went to the Super Bowl last year and is a good bet to to back. Or I can go to what is right now a one year wonder with two stud teams blocking the path to the Super Bowl in Seattle and San Francisco. Hmmm, duh?

          • Tom W

            One year wonder??? That’s rich. U act like eagles are the browns. Ward played for chip and Davis. He knows what we got. We obviously didn’t even look at Tj ward which I think is a giant mistake. He is so much more than the lazy biz safety national media line. He is great in one on one coverage against tes and slot wrs. Not a ball hawk but great in coverage, physical , great tackler, and athletic. Basically everything saints hoped Malcolm Jenkins was going to be when they drafted him in the first round and he turned out like a backup

    • Tom W

      People called it a month ago and it still is average at best. Even worse bc tj ward went for so little and he is clearly much better and an all pro. M m very unhappy

      • Armchairgm3

        Ward is better but was he a fit? He’s an in the box type safety when Davis’ system requires versatility from both safeties. Now, we can debate the utility of not bending your system to accommodate great players. I might agree with you there. But it is what it is, and if we weren’t going to adjust, then we were likely throwing good money at bad.

  • Tom W

    Wow in comparison to the money tj ward got it looks like broncos got the greatest deal ever for a probowler safety and eagles paid same money to a stopgap. Need to see guaranteed money but no way in hell Jenkins sees last yr of his deal. Basically 2 for 8 mil Not excited unless Byrd or verner is coming behind this signing.

    • oreofestar

      If we get Byrd then I love Malcolm as the number 2 safety but if this is the plan for safety then Malcolm can….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jerry Pomroy

        What if signing Jenkins allows them to then sign another lower end/mid-tier S, but also add Ware? I just can’t see Jenkins being the big splash.

        • oreofestar

          We better sign Byrd, his value is shooting down and the cheap Ward deal helped it has gotten to the point that he is visiting NOLA I mean come one Howie I am begging you

          • cliff henny

            I literally picture you in the middle of the living, on your knees, begging Howie

        • Richard Colton

          Couldn’t have been the plan, Jenkins was being signed as Ware was being cut. I don’t see them going expensive or old at OLB. Ware is both. Hell, he’s 2 years older than Cole. At this point, I’m just glad we won’t be seeing Ware 2X a year.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Doesnt seem like a stopgap…he is young. a stopgap would be an older player you get when there are no better options…which there possibly were. They must really like the kid.

      • Tom W

        Three year deal isn’t a stop gap???? And no chance he sees the third yr at 8 million.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Stopgap for who? A rookie not on the roster yet? Its counterintuitive to sign somebody in the face of several other supposedly more polished players if you dont consider him an option for the future…you certainly dont sign a stopgap on the 1st day of FA…idt the length of the deal has much to do w it outside of giving the team flexibility if things dont work out the way they hope

  • mksp

    You guys give PFF waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy too much credit.

    Being able to read their website does not qualify you to say “X Athlete grades out as bad”. Sorry.

    • Tikkit

      I’m sure that gathering stats is a horrible way to go about writing a cohesive and cogent piece. Thank goodness you could straighten Sheil out.

      • mksp

        PFF’s “stats” aren’t consistent or reliable or compiled by professional scouts.

        But sure, lets call them “stats” so they sound official.

        • Joe L

          What do scouts have to do with compiling stats?

          • mksp

            THEY’RE NOT STATS.

            Thats my point. PFF “grades” players without the benefit of understanding the scheme or play call, and without having the experience of a scout.

            Its useful for a handful of actual stats (“targets”, “drops”, etc.), but lets not pretend like the interns at PFF understand what Malcolm Jenkins’ responsibility was in a given coverage enough to figure out his “passing rating against.”

          • Joe L

            16 missed tackles is a stat. No?

          • mksp

            Its a stat like incompletions are a stat. There’s a lot of missing information in that stat.

          • Tikkit

            Yes but they are stats. Applied to categories. Like missed tackles. That is a stat.

          • Joe L

            And you’re assumptions that PFF “interns” are doing the work in this case are funny.

        • Tikkit

          You don’t have to agree with their compilation but when they rank based on something like, say, missed tackles or time in the slot? That’s a pretty solid.

          • mksp

            I mean, maybe? Time in the slot, sure, agreed.

            But when is a “missed tackle” actually being “gap responsible and forcing the ball carrier inside”, for example?

            I’d love for someone to put up an all-22 of all of Malcolm Jenkins’ missed tackles (Jimmy?)…..I’m sure it will be very easy to identify which specific ones PFF is “counting.”

          • JofreyRice

            how much do you actually know about PFF’s process, and how much are you just talking out of your ass? Serious question, please be honest.

          • mksp

            There have been conversations about it on twitter, elsewhere.

            They have “graders” that they “train” and then they have people that I assume are more experienced cross-check their work. I don’t think they’re very transparent in their process, which is what my issue is (consistency, namely).

            All you need to know is that preliminary grades go out before all-22 is even available.

          • mksp

            Like I said, certain stats are very helpful. But all you have to do is read Jimmy’s article about every sack given up, and compare it to who got “credit” for the sack on PFF. Football is not that simple.

            Point is, I trust Chip and his scouting staff 100000x more than PFF.

          • JofreyRice

            OK. Should their analysts have to pull a sword from a stone? How do you think anyone learns to do anything, besides being trained?

            NFL GMs reference them by name, as a service. They are brought in by clubs for consulting.

            Who is your source? Tommy Lawlor & Spadaro?

          • Adam

            IIRC, I’ve seen times where you’ve complained about PFF stats/rankings in the past on here, when they didn’t match your opinion of a player.

          • JofreyRice

            Not agreeing with 100% of every play they grade is a far cry from writing off their entire operation as amateurish. They can and have made mistakes. They also have 3 years of awful grades on Jenkins.

    • 76mustang

      Exactly – here’s PFF grading for Shady in the Detroit game and the Vikings game:

      Detroit grade +2.1
      29 carries 217 yds. 2TDs
      1 reception 4 yds

      Minnesota grade +2.2
      8 carries 38 yd. 0 TDs
      5 receptions 68 yds

    • JofreyRice

      you mean the same PFF that Sheil references in this article?

      • mksp

        Yes, exactly those.

        • JofreyRice

          oh, because he seems to reference them quite a bit. Does he have some special dispensation for that, or do you just prefer good news?

  • Matthew B

    I really can’t believe all the Negadelphians here. Just because you CAN afford to sign Byrd to $9 million/yr doesn’t mean you SHOULD sign Byrd to $9 million per year. Howie and Chip got a very young, high character player who can grow with a young, high character team. When was the last time a HUGE FA signing has led any team to a World Championship? Sorry that many of you feel disappointed, but this is another very smart, strategic move.
    In Chip We Trust……………

    • Tikkit

      Not negative just a football fan who doesn’t like a football player. Seen enough of a guy who is mediocre to know what mediocre looks like. See: Malcolm Jenkins.

      • John E. Zang

        This isn’t the NBA. This is the essential team game. Put one talented player on a bad team with bad scheme and he becomes neutralized. This sport is all about getting character guys with talent and fitting them into the right culture and scheme, not the name on the back of the jersey. Jenkins is talented, he was drafted high, and he fits what Philly is doing. Plus he’s young and cheap. Win. Now they can take care of the present and future.

        • Tikkit

          So say I wanted to sign a center to my team. I could get Andrew Bogut, a cheap guy who seems like a good team guy or Dwight Howard a bonafide all star at the position. Not only could I get Dwight, but I would still have plenty of room to sign other players.
          This is the Eagles choice. You want to use the NBA as an analogy? Fine. I would take Howard over Bogut 1oo% of the time, no questions asked. It’s not a matter of being tight cap wise, or needing a character guy to come in, it’s about talent. Talent that we haven’t had since Dawk.
          By the way Byrd is a whole year older than Jenkins, so there’s that too.

          • IgglesRealist

            A WHOLE YEAR!!!!!!!!!! CLUTCH MY PEARLS HES READY FOR AARP!

          • Tikkit

            He should just retire. Isn’t it sad when they don’t know when to hang it up?

          • John E. Zang

            You seem to be looking at just this year. The cap applies to the future not just what we have to spend this year. We have a core of talent that deserves to be paid coming up. What I meant by the analogy is that unlike the NBA where you assemble virtually any handful of big name top players and, presto, you have yourself a winner; football is a sport where the best or worst can be made of talent depending on the men around you and organization at large. Jenkins is definitely talented he’s just been on some historically bad defenses. I’m not 100% on this but I believe his best year was the Super Bowl year when he played on a better defense coached by Williams. Careers are made and broken by many circumstances. Putting players in the best position to succeed is the name of the game.

        • aislephive

          Jenkins wasn’t very good on what was statistically a very good defense in New Orleans last year so there goes that argument.

    • peteike

      I like the high character part but hes not as good as Byrd and its never just about signing the big name. We havent had quality back there since Dawk so thats been a while. Also never know how a guy plays in a certain system so lets hope it works out, still time also. .

    • Richard Colton

      I’m totally with you. Now math isn’t my strong suit. Neither is statistics. But if years playing and losing thousands of dollars on the roulette wheel have taught me anything, it’s that the Eagles are due. We’ve missed on so many bargain free agents and draft picks at Safety that this guy is 100% the solution. It’s math people!

      • Matthew B

        Last year, no one was jumping up and down over the Connor Barwin signing. Or Bradley Fletcher. Granted, they are not safeties… But they both contributed to our success, at a reasonable cost. Depth is HUGE in the NFL, and having the funds to add quality depth is what helped this team win the Division. Why would they sway from that blueprint?

        • OldDocRoss

          Yeah! And folk weren’t jumping up and down about the signings of Soap and Chung and look how wel……….oh. Never mind.

        • IgglesRealist

          Success being 31st in the league vs the pass and the worst safety tandem in football? Good thing you liked last year because you’re going to get more of it this season.

        • IgglesRealist

          Because they want to win more than a division. Maybe a goddamned Superbowl? 1960.

        • Richard Colton

          Because it hasn’t worked with Safety

          • Maggie

            In one year, RC?

          • Richard Colton

            You don’t need me to repeat the revolving door of failure and mediocrity at Safety since Dawkins left. It’s been done to death. Eagles haven’t gotten it right. Achilles heel territory now.

    • Nfl All Day

      The guy has a track record of average at best play. The safety position has been a wasteland that cost us victories for going on 5 seasons. The fact we oppose singing an average at best guy to our biggest position of need doesnt make us negative. It’s a feeling based on this guys past performance. The ONLY upside is his age, and the fact that guys typically play their best ball between 26-30. But make no mistake about it, this kid is suspect in every aspect of his game. Your assertion that this is “A VERY SMART MOVE” is ridiculous. It’s not a move that shackles them capwise, fine. But it’s not a move that should give any intelligent football fan a sense of security that we’ve addresses a GAPING HOLE in our championship aspirations and can now tutn our attention elsewhere. Hopefully, his best football lies ahead of him? We were hoping for a little more than hope.

      • Tikkit

        THIS. The eye test places Byrd at the best possible Eagles safety since Dawk. Dawk has been gone since ’08. The wasteland between Dawk and now could have been crossed and in the rearview. Now it’s still an unknown and how can you not be discouraged by mediocre. How?

    • Nfl All Day

      If you need more evidence, look no further than how woefully little he was willing to accept in total, years, ang guaranteed money. That’s the market talking. If there were teams clamoring for this guy he’d have landed a better deal.

    • Wayne Charles

      Ah Deion Sanders come to mind.

    • planetx1971

      Well said & I COMPLETELY agree. Now I’ll take an order of Demarcus Ware with a side order of Corey Graham …. Thank you, please drive thru!!!!

    • johnr

      I agree. I have a lot of concerns about Byrd. If you offered me a player approaching 30 with 2 bad feet, runs slower than some of my linebackers, never played on a winning team, and by the way wants to be the highest paid safety for the next 6 years, I say thanks but no thanks. Jenkins is young and versatile. Buy stocks low. Sell high. I believe Byrd has reached his peak. We have a number of other holes. And, really, we should be more worried about our pass rush.

  • TNA

    How many years is the Ward contract. I’ve read it’s $5.5/yr, but can’t seem to find for how many years and for how much guaranteed money. If Ward signed a 4 year deal with $22 million guaranteed, I would understand why the Eagles weren’t in on him. In comparison, MJ’s contact looks like a good value.

  • Eagles4Life

    Mike Mitchell is a Steeler…tick tock, Howie. Tick. Tock.

  • JofreyRice

    103.3 rating into his coverage.

    Second most YAC given up in the entire league, behind only Major Wright.

    Second worst tackling efficiency % in the entire league, behind only Mike Mitchell.

    But yeah, what’s not to like?

    • peteike

      haha. Hey maybe they add Wright, lotta like there no?

    • ACViking

      Didn’t cost much . . . almost like the beer Bluto offers to Flounder and Pinto

    • OldDocRoss

      On the plus side, he’s not Patrick Chung.

      • JofreyRice

        Neither is Sean Considine, but I’m not clamoring to bring him back, either. I’m really hoping there is a second act here.

        • OldDocRoss

          Likewise. I was kidding. “Better Than Chung” should never be the benchmark for…….anything.

      • oreofestar

        If that is how you want to look at it then pretty much any safety is an improvement to Patrick Chung so what is the point might as well get some 7th rounders duke it out for the starting spots

    • NickS1

      Maybe Howie thinks the coaching staff can help him out and maybe they’re really high on Wolff. Only thing I can think of. Otherwise, safety will continue to be Howie’s white whale.

      • JofreyRice

        Moby Dick is practically taking a cab to beach himself in Howie’s office, and he’s making deals with Malcolm fucking Jenkins. This is a self-inflicted wound.

        • NickS1

          Harpoon gun misfire.

    • Token

      But hes a swell guy. People like him.

      • cliff henny

        he’s good enough, he’s smart enough…and gosh darn it, people like him

        • Joe from Easton

          If you lay a finger on my brother I’ll hit you so hard, you’re relatives will die.

    • Tom W

      Wow go post that over at the other blog they hate the truth

      • oreofestar

        Of course they do! Jenkins is an Eagles so now he is awesome if he went to any other team we would be talking about how average he is and how he got an above average contract

        • Maggie

          Where’s the person who usually says these things about the all great and powerful Eagles players?

  • Jeff Asay

    Jenkins is a starting safety from a good defense. He can’t be as bad as Chung and Phillips were last summer. It’s an upgrade and that’s what matters. Draft well and keep your best players is the way to go. I would like Byrd, but only for the right deal that takes into account his health issues. Hopefully Eagles can draft a safety in the first three rounds who will compete for a starting role.

    • Richard Colton

      So you want Wolff and a rookie as your starting FS/SS with Jenkins off the bench?

      • cliff henny

        this point…YES!

      • Jeff Asay

        Jury is still out on Wolff. Jenkins will start. Everyone else we sign or have will compete to play next to Jenkins.

    • JofreyRice

      The year before he was a starting safety on an all-time bad defense.

    • Token

      All the rookies are average prospects at best.

  • Joe L

    Mike Mitchell gets 5/25.

  • Nybotvini

    Another Jenkins. The name carries bad karma. Toast anybody?

    • cliff henny

      Izell, jesus he was SOOOO bad

      • Tikkit

        Burnt toast part II the malcoming.

      • Nfl All Day

        If he doesn’t step up he’s Toast Jr…write it down.

  • cliff henny

    officially left team Panic, now on Team Desperation

  • Token

    So, I gotta say I hate this teams new outlook always wanting the versatile player. Thats one of Chips biggest issues with me.

    WTF good is being versatile if it means you either do all things in a average fashion, or in the case of Jenkins, do all things is a bottom of the league kind of way? I mean, WTF does that get you?

    Give me a guy who excels in one thing. Just dominates at it. Then I could care less what else he does.

    • cliff henny

      ok, we know Chip is front 7 thinking guy. he’s said it many times. take care of pressure up middle, get true 3-4 OLB to beat the bejesus out of QB, and score 45. i’m more concerned they get that dominant guy at OLB, then they can get away with saving couple bucks on secondary. Seattle went cheap on o-line, they just had other strength to overcome.
      .
      or, Eagles could just sign Byrd!

      • Token

        Right now they dont have either as a strength. No rushing OLBs. No real good secondary players. But they do have 20 mil in cap space gosh darnit! Thats a win!

        Just sign Byrd. I mean, hes just sitting out there. Offer him more than these other bums got. We are realistically looking at him having to take 8 mil now. WTF are they waiting for?

    • IgglesRealist

      We have a guy to cover the slot. And hes better at it then Jenkins. We also already have safeties that cant play. What exactly did we tie 8.5 million up into?

      • Maggie

        Seeing as how there are several weeks to do trades, signings, drafting, perhaps we’ll find out.

  • Nfl All Day

    And charecter…..oh how I despise charecter. There needs to be a sliding scale where being mediocre knocks 50% off your charecter rating, and being All-World like say T.O. or Marshawn adds 50%.

  • IgglesRealist

    You like and are ok with mediocre than you should be ok with this signing. I happen to like talent and winning. Which runs counter to being an eagles fan I realize. The Niners signed an upgrade over whittner at safety. They’re contenders. The Broncos upgraded at Safety too. They were in the bowl. Our Eagles? A converted corner that cant play the position that we signed him at. All while getting the same money that Ward is getting in Denver. Bright side? 8-8 next season should win us the division. Downside? 1 and done in the playoff again is pretty much what were saying were ok with. Don’t worry tho, the Eagles are smarter than everyone.

    • Token

      People overestimate where the Eagles are right now based on making the playoffs last year in a horrible division with a last place schedule and every break going our way. I mean, yea thats a debbie downer right there. But its true.

      They have a lot of work to do in order to really contend. And they seemingly are in no hurry to do that. Guess they really are taking the draft for 3-4 years and hope for the best strategy.

      • Mr. Magee

        Really no other way to do it if you want to win a SB… You have to build a base of talent first, and then use free agency to put you over the top; too soon to do that here.

        • Token

          Orrrrrrrrrr since you already had a top 5 offense you could sign pieces that are clearly on the market to get your defense up to a respectable level. Then youd really have a chance to compete.

          Or we could keep waiting years and years. Dont fall for the “maybe next year” stuff. How long has it been now? If a team is serious about contending they can make it happen. Draft better. Add impactful players when they become available.

          Or we could sit on the 20 mil. That works too.

          • Mr. Magee

            You really think we’re that close? I don’t.

            I just don’t think you get it done with FA in general. (I’d rather have draft picks – and the $ to sign them.) After year 2, those two safeties will be an albatross… Glad it won’t be us that has to deal with it.

          • IgglesRealist

            We’re three pieces away on D from contending. O is set by in large. Good line, talent and depth. D we need 2 safeties still and a pass rush OLB. A corner would be nice. Oh and a Kicker. So yes, if they had played this off-season right, we could contend.

          • oreofestar

            Easily could have gotten Byrd and Ware and gotten depth across the D

          • oreofestar

            well let me not say that but I think we could have gotten a special player

          • Maggie

            If they could have ‘easily” gotten Byrd and Ward, they would have done so. You were told more than once that half the league was looking for safeties. Many teams will overpay. The other thing you seem to forget is that Byrd/ward are HUMAN BEINGS. Ward, at least, didn’t WANT to play for Philly. He WANTED to play for Denver. So that’s where he signed.

          • oreofestar

            What I was saying is that if they wanted to they could have gotten a Ware or Byrd type of player and just added depth but they did not want to

          • Mr. Magee

            I really don’t think you win a SB with FA’s – who’s done it?

            And 3 pieces – on only one side of the ball, no less – is a lot; ie, we’re not that close. We need a couple more productive drafts, and then we can think about adding a FA (or two?) that might put us over the top.

          • oreofestar

            Seattle just did what I think we should doing now, using free agency as a way to compliment what you do in the draft they would not have won the superbowl with no Bennett, Harvin and Avril those players help

          • Mr. Magee

            Agree. But I don’t think we’re close to Seattle right now. Maybe in 1 or 2 years. For now I’d be content trying to get as many picks in the draft as possible, and then using FA to fill in down the road. ie, We need a more solid base of talent before we start making big bets in FA.

          • IgglesRealist

            Well we sure as shit went over the top when we signed TO and Kearse. And TO was the best player on the field that SB. And since Denver was just there and signed Ward and it looks like Ware? They seem to think so.

          • Mr. Magee

            Agree. They are in a different situation than we are – more veteran squad, a QB in twilight of career, etc. They are “all in” at this point. Their prospects are brighter than ours for the next 1.5 yrs; beyond that, ours are better.

          • Token

            Its kind of a silly argument. EVERYONE wants to draft studs. Until Howie shows he can consistently do that, we are stuck having to be players on some FAs. Even great drafting teams add FAs.

            Again, how many true contenders sit on 15-20 million in cap yearly? Id guess not too many.

          • Mr. Magee

            Maybe we just disagree on timing?

            You could argue why build a $20M war chest if you’re not gonna spend it? I guess I have no counter to that.

            Just looking at Safety, for example, there’s no way I’m tieing up my $ on one of the two big names there… Why? Because in only 1 – 2 yrs, you’re gonna be sorry you did it. Unless of course you won a SB in the interim, which gets back to the question of timing – I just don’t think we’re that close…

  • Jeff Asay

    Let’s remember Brian Dawkins was the 5th safety off the board in 1996. He was the last player selected in the second round and the third player selected on his own team. Until there’s a consensus that the Eagles are one player away, build through the draft and sign multiple free agents. Hope half contribute going forward. Team needs playmakers on defense. Ward plays in the box which isn’t what team needs.

    • Token

      Yep, Maybe next year etc etc etc…………. bluh

      • Jeff Asay

        Honestly, would you rather still be building momentum toward a Chip designed team, or sitting in San Fran thinking Super Bowl trophy or failure? 49ers are three straight close but no cigar. Window closing talk creeping in with no adequate replacement for Frank Gore.

        • Token

          id rather try

          • Jeff Asay

            I want Byrd. That’s trying. And who knows if Eagles offered Ward and he just said he wants to play for a legit Super Bowl contender.

          • oreofestar

            They did not offer him anything and Byrd is walking around without a job and they are not trying to get him

          • Jeff Asay

            Source?

          • oreofestar

            I do not actually know but look at tweets from RapSheet among others saying Eagles have no interest in Ward and saying he does not fit what they want

          • OldDocRoss

            And therein lies your answer to why the Eagles did not pursue Ward.

            Call me cookie, but I’m OK with taking the decision making skills of Kelly, Roseman, Gamble et al over “random internet guy who’s posted 100 times an hour about how much he wants Byrd or Ward or WardorByrd or WAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!”.

          • oreofestar

            I am no GM but you can not just say because someone is a GM there decision was right, I am not smarter than Howie but I have an opinion and they overpayed Jenkins and if Ward does not fit your system sure but then when a player who does fit your system and is arguably the best at the position and you go sign an average guy to above average money then I am gonna question it

          • OldDocRoss

            You don’t need to be a GM, but you’ve offered precisely nothing in terms of insight other than I WANT BYRD OR WARD every minute on the minute which makes it hard to take you seriously.

            Byrd is not the best at his position. Whoever is arguing that point is clearly a moron. He also has chronic foot issues, low end speed that’s going to cause issues if/when he loses a step and, from the perspective of many a Bills fan, values money way more than loyalty or Ws. He *is* the best safety available on the market but that doesn’t mean you go after him at any price.

            Maybe Chip never liked his attitude. Maybe his medical reports give cause for concern. Maybe they plan on bringing in Revis instead to upgrade the secondary. Maybe they plan on bringing back Allen, or signing some other safety. Or maybe they’ve got a trade lined up. Or maybe they’re super hot on someone in the draft.

            The important thing to note here is that it’s the first day of free agency and you’re acting like it’s the last day before the season kicks off. There is disappointment and rational concern and then there is you.

            Chill.

          • oreofestar

            I think Byrd is the best safety and the Earl Thomas argument with me is that if Byrd was playing in the LOB with crazy talent around him he would look better than ET3 lets even say he is not the best lets say he is the 3rd or 4th best whatever.

            I have never said you go get him for any price and even said if assclowns like the raiders start offering 5 year 52mil deals you just back off but that is not the case and he is currently looking for money in the 8-9 range which is Weddle, Berry, Goldson money and he is clearly better than all 3.

            If they got a trade lined up for a safety then I am curious to what it is but the plan at safety can not be Jenkins or bringing Allen back or praying Wolff stays healthy.

            I know there is still more days of FA I am currently disappointed because so much money was given to Jenkins and he was overpaid but I am still praying/hoping that Howie has a plan to amp up the secondary.

            Am I chilled? no, Not gonna deny that but in the end I just want what best for the Eagles and I do not think that is Jenkins

          • Tikkit

            I like your post. I enjoy a well laid out argument. My rejoinder:
            Every S since Dawk sucked out loud. All. Of. Them.
            When you have a chance escape the morass of the last 6 years at that position, I think it’s worth a shot. Especially when the team is in such good cap standing. It’s not about crying or freaking out, it’s more about the fact that sometimes, damn it, you have to spend on top tier talent.

          • OldDocRoss

            Yeah, believe me, I sympathise. My re-rejoinder would be that the suckiness of past safeties is a sunk cost now and we shouldn’t try to rectify it by overpaying for a guy we don’t like for whatever reason.

            They obviously feel Ward wasn’t a good fit (plus the Broncos have Peyton + a recent SB appearance to entice FAs with) and Byrd does have enough flags there to cause concern considering the money you’d likely have to pay.

            In my infinitely amateur GM-ness I’d probably still pay it and I have no issue with people who feel the same way, just with folks who basically post “BYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYRRRRRRRRD :(:(:(“ 150 times in an hour and act like the world is about to end.

            The two things I would say that should give us hope – beyond the fact we’re a mostly young playoff team with a good coaching staff who have lost no key players – are:

            1. We’re very early in the offseason and the Eagles do have some form for making moves out of the blue, and

            2. As much as I’d (have) like(d) to see Byrd here I wouldn’t be *that* surprised to see his performance fall off a cliff a year or two from now.

            Oh, and 3, I ::heart:: Lamarcus Joyner, but that’s my own issue.

          • Maggie

            Byrd is gone to New England.

          • Maggie

            Edit; Heard wrong. New Orleans. Still gone.

          • Joe from Easton

            Thanks. We all have access to NFL network. Are you enjoying playing the bearer of bad news? Why don’t you let everyone know how Revis won’t take a pay cut so he’ll be staying put in Tampa.

          • Maggie

            For one thing, I can’t see into the future. For another, if everything I think about Revis is true, I think he’d make a fine addition. Yes, he’s a corner, but everyone is always yelling for a “difference maker” and I believe he could be one. Tampa was pretty darn dysfunctional last year so hardly anyone could show their stuff. I saw some stuff about how hard he worked rehabbing his knee and how much many other players admire him, also.

          • Joe from Easton

            You don’t need to see into the future. Revis publically stated that he won’t take a pay cut which means he get’s traded (eagles won’t make that deal) or he stays in Tampa. Notice you didn’t refute my question about your enjoyment in being the bearer of bad news. How many different people did you inform that Byrd signed with NO?

          • Maggie

            Actually I replied 3 times to the same person, lol.

          • Maggie

            Byrd is gone.

          • Jeff Asay

            That’s depressing. I saw. And looks like Ware is going to Denver. Have a feeling Eagles are further away from true contention than many want to admit. Denver, NOLA, 49ers are big players today.

        • oreofestar

          The reason the Niners are even there is because the have STARS on the D the Eagles do not have a single star on their D we do not have any pro bowlers or anyone close, just a couple decent players, a bunch of average guys with a couple mediocre guys sprinkled in

          • Jeff Asay

            And most of their stars are through the draft, yes?

          • oreofestar

            Well the 49ers draft very well do the Eagles? I can not remember the last pro bowler we drafted on defense, we just draft a ton of decent guys no one special except on offense

          • Jeff Asay

            That’s why they hired Gamble, maybe? I dunno. Have to hope they get one of OLB, Safety, or WR in first round.

          • John E. Zang

            They’re not “STARS” because they’re still mostly in their second year and going into second with a new scheme and head coach. There’s no Miami Heat in the NFL. The niners also had a ton of high draft picks from being horrible for years. Take a look at Seattle. Virtually none of those guys were considered “stars” until they got together and started believing in what they were a part of and playing football for the team. It’s a team game and not a game of star power. The most important thing is having a direction to build toward and a solid method of evaluating who’s going to fit what you’re trying to build.

    • Tom W

      O wait … No good safeties available next two yrs bc they are all locked up. And ward is so much more than a box safety it’s beyond funny

      • Jeff Asay

        That’s not how the All-22 described Ward on this site. And he’s a contract year wonder. We will see what he becomes in Denver, especially if Manning gets hurt and things go south.

  • Jeff Asay

    If I had my druthers, both Earl Thomas and Luke Kuechley would be Eagles. Instead the team has Graham and Cox. NFL quality but not playmakers like those two.

    • oreofestar

      Cox I have no problem with you can not have them all and he was still a solid pick but the Eagles do not draft very well they draft a lot of solid players but they rarely draft stars which is why they sometimes need to add one in FA like Byrd

      • OldDocRoss

        Kelce, Foles and Cox have all been markedly better than “solid” thus far. Kendricks, LJ and Ertz have huge upside too IMO.

        The Eagles have drafted very well the last couple of years.

        I understand the disappointment but you’re in danger of sounding like a spoilt kid who didn’t get what he wanted for Christmas. The Jenkins signing in isolation ain’t special but it’s a long ass time until the season kicks off.

        • oreofestar

          Fox is solid he is not great, Kendricks has potential I agree so we will see, Everyone else you said was an Offensive guy and that is not really the problem I really think the Eagles struggle at drafting defense even Howie said it himself that they have struggles evaluating safety talent, We had a good core but we need that player that can help us get over the hump and while I would love for that player to drafted the Eagles have yet to show they can draft one on D, we have not had a good safety since Mikell and a great one since Dawk I think it is time but whatever

          • OldDocRoss

            Fox is Cox, he’s very much better than solid and his potential >>>> Kendricks’.

            Also, Brandon F’n Boykin.

            The people currently employed by the Eagles have a better than decent track record of drafting so far.

  • Mr. Magee

    Where is GEAGLE?! He called this 2 wks ago!

    Certainly nothing to get excited about, but it’s better than $9M/yr for one of the 2 big names. Eagles are just gonna have to coach this guy up… we’ll see.

    • oreofestar

      I would rather give Byrd 9 a year than Jenkins over 5 a year

      • Mr. Magee

        Sure, if it were a 1 yr deal… Not that simple though

        • oreofestar

          I will take Byrd over Jenkins at their price points any day

          • Mr. Magee

            Again, I agree that one Byrd = two Jenkins, but you’re not signing them for just 1 yr; given what Byrd commands on the open market, he will still be big $ against your salary cap long after you want him to!

          • Maggie

            Byrd is gone. To the Patriots.

          • oreofestar

            Saints actually

          • Joe from Easton

            I could vomit. A team with 2 million in cap space a few hours ago just took the guy that our 24 million cap space should have been paying for.

          • Maggie

            Maybe he WANTED to play for New Orleans.

          • Joe from Easton

            He went to the team that pony’d up the dough.
            For the record I’ve been on this site speculating that I was worried about his speed and the foot issue, but damn it I’d be lying if I said that I wasn’t even a little miffed that Ward, Byrd, and Whitner are gone and we got Jenkins.
            Hoping we draft Pryor at this point.

          • Maggie

            You’re right. I heard wrong.

  • John E. Zang

    C’mon guys he isn’t a flashy name or doesn’t have the big INT numbers doesn’t mean he’s without upside. He played on some historically bad defenses and teams in turmoil. He hasn’t really had stability (like our man Nate Allen). Additionally, last year was his first in Ryan’s new system. Crumby, desperate organizations spend big bucks on flashy free agents to sell tickets and please the casual fans while maintaining no plan or direction.I like this signing a lot, its the team often times that makes the player. I hope they resign Nate Allen as well. It makes a lot of sense to have someone back their familiar with Davis’ scheme and he still talented.

    • John E. Zang

      Please refrain from trying to fit the safety position into some quantifiable category. This isn’t fantasy football.

      • Tikkit

        What? Safety is a position therefore a quantifiable category.

        • John E. Zang

          In regard to statistics. There’s really no way to quantify how good a certain safety is compared to the next through numbers. Game tape and a jury of his peers that’s it. There’s many variables to consider in evaluating these guys; style of play, body type, measurables, immeasurables, etc., etc..

  • Jeff Asay

    Has decided Geagle isn’t posting because he’s cleaning out his locker as Chung.

    • oreofestar

      I was talking to him on twitter think he said something about it being too depressing here

      • Tikkit

        Oh please. The FOles v. Vick bullcrap was way more depressing.

        • oreofestar

          IDK I wasn’t here for that

          • Tikkit

            GE can tell you all about it. Dutch. BBaS. Awful toilet bowl conversations.

      • mksp

        Please, its depressing because guys like him and his “GEAGLE CERTIFIED” BS that were expecting us to make a huge splash and sign Byrd and Ward and 3 other guys.

        Howie and Chip are building this team the right way. You guys want to be Dolphins or Redskins or Browns fans, then go for it.

        Jenkins fits our scheme, is good in the locker room and is absolutely an upgrade over Chung and Allen, pus we maintain cap flexibility. Build the team through the draft, sign your own guys. That’s how you become a successful franchise. Seahawks, GB, 49ers have all proven this. Seattle didn’t go heavy in FA until last year, and that was mostly bargain-bin shopping that worked out really well.

        When the opportunity is proper, we’ll make a big splash. It may even be DeMarcus Ware this year, because fit/money match up.

        • oreofestar

          Seattle brought in Bennett and Avril and Harvin to a huge deal so they spent in FA and without those guys I am not sure they would have been holding up the Lombardi, I do not think the Eagles should gone crazy and made a splash my thought was getting Byrd and then getting some cheap depth options to sprinkle in

          • mksp

            Exactly, but that was after several years of great drafting. And Bennett and Avril were both ultra-reasonable signings.

        • Jeff Asay

          I reread comments from Jenkins All22. Geagle said Jenkins was the guy 14 days ago. He also called it depressing. Now that was before Ward and Byrd made it to free agency, so to be fair he has been hoping the Oregon connection would tip the scales to Byrd. But his original assessment two weeks ago was dead on. Gotta give credit when it’s due.

  • Brandon Baltic

    5.42 per year for this bum and Ward gets 5.75 per year? I know the guaranteed is different but c’mon I thought we could have done a lot better considering our cap room.

    • oreofestar

      We overpaid but I think Ward had some highers offers and took less

      • Brandon Baltic

        There’s no proof of that. I think the safety market is a lot cooler than many originally thought.

        • oreofestar

          You are right there is no proof but the Eagles reportedly were not interested, maybe they though he was not a scheme fit I trust Howie a lot despite my recent meltdown and still think they have a plan to bring in a playmaker maybe they are gonna bring Byrd and are just waiting for his value to continue to plummet at least I hope

          • Brandon Baltic

            Yeah possibly. I trust Howie too. After the disastrous dream team year he’s made the right move almost every time. Welp as I write this Byrd just came off the market to the Saints. So there goes that plan.

          • IgglesRealist

            Yeah he’s been aces… Chung, Soap, Phillips, Casey… All super talents….

  • Maggie

    Verner going to Bucs. Just announced by Rappaport. BYRD GOING TO NEW ENGLAND.

    • OldDocRoss

      *Orleans

      • Maggie

        Very sorry. Was in another room and heard wrong. My bad.

    • JofreyRice

      Is Jarius Byrd all you can post about?????

      • Maggie

        Me? I have barely mentioned the man’s name. I’ve seen it 10,000 times, posted by other people, however.

      • Joe from Easton

        Amen.

  • oreofestar

    Somehow the Saints entered the offseason 15mil over the ca and came away with the 2 best FAs

    • JofreyRice

      Impossible! I thought we needed at least 30 mil of wiggle room for emergencies, to sign the rookies, etc.

      • oreofestar

        They got Graham and Byrd somehow I have no idea they must have converted a ton of money into bonuses I just…. wow

        • JofreyRice

          I’ve always said, you can’t take the cap stuff as gospel. This is one area where the creativity and resourcefulness of the guys that manage the cap for a living is just beyond what 95% of laypeople can project from over the cap or spotrac or whatever. You can make guesses, but its really tough to say things conclusively if the parties are motivated.

          • Mr. Magee

            You’re right. But suffice it to say, NO is deeply committed for the next several years… no flexibility. They’re making a run… hope it turns out about as well as it has for the Cowboys.

  • mksp

    Saints selling out for this year. Their cap is totally screwed. If they don’t win the Super Bowl gonna be tears.

    • JofreyRice

      lol

    • Mr. Magee

      and years…

  • DoctorRick

    Nice blog and a good link to the All 22. With Jenkins in the fold there is still room on the field for a true deep safety, so Byrd and Mitchell still in the mix. Plus Deone Bucannon reachable in the draft. I’m good to go with Jenkins so far.

    • IgglesRealist

      MMMMMMMMMM Nope. both signed. Glad you gave them benefit of the doubt. Ive switched right to doubting.

  • PhiEagles14

    So with this signing, I say we don’t draft HAHA anymore, Pryor still an option, i think Bucannon, would be ideal in the 2nd round for us. We need more of a strong safety!

  • BobA

    Some of those stats are useless..For example, if I’m Rex Ryan there are any number of people I’d like to see make the stop on a running play, but my safety is down on the list , behind pretty much most positions. How can you evaluate whether Jenkins should have made a stop without seeing how the defense was deployed? If the DE stuffs a RB in the backfield on a play where Jenkins was in the game I hardly think that his lack of making a stop on the play is significant. If what Chip saw on film impresses him, that’s good enough for me.

    • Bob A

      Before I get flamed, I meant Rob,not Rex.