Offseason Outlook: Eagles Running Backs

Eagles RB Chris Polk on field with football
This week, we’ll offer offseason outlooks for the Eagles, position-by-position. Each day, we’ll answer a pressing question and rank the position on the priority scale. First up was quarterback. Now onto the running backs. 

PRESSING QUESTION: Are Brown and Polk good enough backups?

McManus: Good enough, yes, though the Eagles could use a little more production out of their No. 2.




Bryce Brown was a bit of a disappointment. After a couple dazzling performances his rookie year, the hope was that the former seventh-round pick would develop into a real nice weapon for Chip Kelly in 2013. That never quite happened. You can chalk some of that up to circumstance. LeSean McCoy stayed healthy and, given how productive he was, didn't come off the field a whole lot. When Brown went off against Carolina and Dallas last season for 178 and 169 yards, respectively, he received 19 carries in one game and 24 the other. He had no more than nine carries in a single game this season.

The other side of that coin is that Brown never forced the coaches to keep him in the game. He bounced to the outside way too much early on and besides the Chicago game, where he raced for a 65-yard touchdown and had 115 yards overall,  he didn't flash much. Brown didn't fumble, though, and averaged 4.2 yards per carry.

Chris Polk was effective in a limited role, totaling 98 yards on 11 carries (8.9 average). Three of those 11 rushes resulted in touchdowns.

Kelly was very high on this group at the beginning of the year, and said he'd put his stable of backs up against any in the league. It turned into more of a one-man show, but you could do worse than Brown and Polk as your second and third options.

Kapadia: Going into 2014 with the same exact group of running backs would be fine, but the guess here is that Kelly will be looking to upgrade.

McCoy played 890 snaps, second-most in the NFL, and he led the league in rushing attempts (314). It was tough for Duce Staley to take the NFL's leading rusher off the field, but the truth is Brown didn't produce for most of the season. Take away the one big run against Chicago, and he averaged under 3.4 YPC on his other 74 attempts. On top of that, Brown was stuffed at or behind the line of scrimmage 15 times, or once every five attempts per STATS, Inc.

Maybe Brown just needs more time in the system, but in a run-heavy offense, the Eagles need more production from their No. 2 guy. As for Polk, I thought he showed some real flashes. If I'm handicapping the race right now, I'd say Polk has a better shot than Brown at being the No. 2 RB going into next season.

PRIORITY SCALE: FROM 1 TO 5

* 1 indicates there is no need at all to address the position in free agency or the draft. 5 means it's of the highest priority that the Eagles focus on the position in the coming months.

McManus: I'm at about a 2. There are obviously more pressing needs, and I recognize that the reserves didn't have much of a chance to get into a rhythm this season with McCoy dominating.

There will likely be some competition brought in this offseason. Assuming Brown and Polk hold onto their roster spots, it will be interesting to see who wins the battle for the No. 2 spot behind McCoy.

Kapadia: In terms of need, we agree on this one. I'll go with a 2 as well. But my prediction is that the Eagles find a new running back to legitimately compete for a roster spot - either in the draft or after the draft.

Remember, Kelly is a run-game guru. Even though the Eagles had the best rushing attack in the NFL in 2013, this isn't a situation where he's going to rest on his laurels. Brown and Polk were guys already on the roster when Kelly was hired. He may eye a running back who better matches the skill set he's looking for.

There's no doubt that the run game is the strength of this team, but don't be surprised if the Eagles tweak the personnel a bit this offseason.

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  • NickS1

    Would be very curious to see what Chip would do with DAT or Tre Mason. Don’t think Mason falls to where we would draft him, but he intrigues me in this offense.

    • Media Mike

      Another RB later in the draft is a possibility. Especially considering that Brown could have a very minimal trade value at some point prior to leaving as a free agent.

    • moesus

      DAT has the same problem as Brown, he tries to bounce outside too much. Obviously he gets away with it in college but we all know that rarely flies in the NFL. He’s also not a great pass blocker.

      All that being said, I would love for us to grab him in the mid rounds. I think he might be there because I believe teams might be scared to draft him as a traditional RB. Although someone might grab him to keep Chip from getting him. He’s an excellent receiver, runs great routes, can line up anywhere, is an explosive KR and can actually play DB in an emergency. He’s a lot stronger than he looks too. He’d be our Darren Sproles. He also supposedly ran a 4.2, which is ridiculous.

      Obviously I’m an Oregon homer but I would love for us to draft him. The upside is immense.

      • GEAGLE

        Let me ask an Oregon Homer to compare and contrast DAT to Kejon Barner?

        • moesus

          I honestly think DAT is equal to or better in all facets of the game aside from pass protection.

          DAT is faster in both burst and top speed, he’s a better runner between the tackles, runs lower and doesn’t mind contact (he stronger than you would think) His moves are on Shady’s level and the biggest upside to me is his ability to line up as a WR. Has a tendency to bounce outside to try to make a big play instead of just churning for one or two yards. Better returner.

          Barner has good hands but only came out of the backfield. He missed open lanes a lot trying to bounce to the outside. His yards after contact weren’t great either. Lower body seems to be weaker. Also has good moves but not as fluid as James or DAT and I noticed more wasted motion before cuts. Slightly bigger but irrelevant because he’s still not big.

          Off the field, Barner was a pretty model student-athlete from what I’ve gathered, while DAT runs off at the mouth (not really an issue) to the press, twitter, etc a bit more. Also seemed disengaged on the sidelines on a few occasions if he wasn’t getting playing time.

          • GEAGLE

            Thanks for the intel

          • moesus

            There’s a good DAT cut up here.

            Even has him in punt coverage.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude……sweet!

          • Jarrod

            Would love to add this guy to the mix with Shady, Brown and Polk (stash Tucker on the practice squad again). Picture this, Shady and DAT in the backfield with Foles, DJax out wide, Celek and Ertz on the line. What do you do as a defense?

  • Richard Colton

    Do we have a Ben Tate on this team? Someone who can give us 80% of Shady’s production for an extended period if he were to go down? Kapadia is really high on Polk. Does anyone think he can be that guy? Why?

    • GEAGLE

      I would wait to see how this year unfolds before we give up on either Bryce or Polk…can’t judge kids accurately after one year in a different scheme but I don’t think it’s out of the question to see us bring in another talent at RB, but if we do, I suspect it would be someone who is more of a receiver out of nthe backfield then a traditional running back…like a DAT or McCluster type

      • Richard Colton

        I like DAT too, but as Illa said, not to compete to be Shady’s backup, but to compliment the offense. Man, we got very lucky with lack of injury this year.

        • RIP illa

          We truly did. I would wanna know how much is it is sports science vs luck, but I don’t wanna look a gift horse in the mouth…so screw the answer. Just hope it keeps up.

          • Richard Colton

            I don’t care how good the smoothie is – it can’t protect you from ACL/MCL. Probably the reason I have ILB and OL higher on my round 1-4 wish list than some.

          • RIP illa

            W/ the amount of Knee injuries in the league due to a player just stepping wrong and not from hits, I wonder why aren’t rehab techniques, used to strength the knee, not implemented or more prominent in players workout routines??? If they are how come we never ever hear about it?!

          • Richard Colton

            I imagine there are. You see RGIII and AD come back in less than a year from knee injuries that used to end careers.

          • RIP illa

            True. Just find it odd that we don’t hear about it at all.

          • NickS1

            Learning a lot as I’m going through the process (just started). Aside from the guys we know already have terrible knees, Maclin/Benn, there’s a lot you can do to protect yourself. Just found out in PT last night that hip strength/stability is key. Never knew that, but keeping the hamstrings strong and well stretched helps, calves, too. So many weird little exercises that you’d just never think of.

          • theycallmerob

            let me know if you need any help! rehabbed an ex through one last year, I’ll get your legs “kung fu strong”. those weird exercises are our specialty.

          • NickS1

            Hope she paid you accordingly! ….. Much appreciated. I’ll take any additional exercises I can get. I just started the pre-surgery PT exercises. Surgery probably happening in March.

          • RIP illa

            Sorry to hear that…really sucks. I had a partial tear when I was younger and don’t remember being given any in depth knowledge during my rehab. What a great time we live in!!!

          • NickS1

            Thanks.. I’m looking at it glass half full, shockingly. Have had knee pain the last 10yrs or so, likely resulting from some of the cartilage damage as well as just the effects of having had a quad tendon repair 14yrs ago. So, I’m being told that the surgery can not only repair the ACL tear, but also clean up some of the cartilage damage, etc. So hopefully, after some intense rehab, I’ll able to finally lift legs enough continually afterward and be able to throw one down for the first time ever. Goals should make the process go smoother, I figure.

          • NickS1

            It just ended mine :(. Crazy part is, with this being RG3’s second, he took the patellar tendon graft from his opposite knee, thus had to rehab two knees. I don’t even know what graft I’m getting yet, because the one knee is basically shot, and since I’m not a pro athlete and don’t have 8hrs a day to rehab, trying to rehab two knees and still work is nearly impossible.

          • GEAGLE

            Curious to see Knott’s progress and what Jason Phillips can add to our depth, but investing in young ILB talent is always a good idea when you have such a quality mentor like Meco..I’m trying to take advantage of mentors like Avant Meco and bring in young talent for them to help groom while they are here..hate that young promising Wolff was looking up to Nate!Chung and Coleman…absolutely hate it!! He needs to see how a successful veteran safety does it

          • RIP illa

            Am I the only one who wants Phillips gone so we can develop Goode, Acho, Knott and the draft pick we should use on ILB?

          • GEAGLE

            If we don’t bring Colt back,Phillips could become important. Acho I like, but I doubt he has a future here. He will get cut everytime a decent player gets cut around the league. No idea what Knott is yet, so I’m not opposed to keeping or cutting him…Goode I want to hold on to for sure…If we are drafting an ILB, I hope it’s someone Iike Van Noy who can backup ILBs and OLBs so Casey Mathews gets kicked to the curb

          • cheapmeat

            Shady rarely takes big hits, which must help

        • JofreyRice

          I’m hoping D’AT really falls to where he’s being predicted, but it’s hard to imagine with speed like that. Even the best defenses in the league would have a tough time defending a triple option with Shady, Desean, and D’AT–especially if D’AT and Desean are moving in opposite directions. It’s not that crazy, either–Kelly ran some triple option at Oregon, and Kelly used some wildcat this year.

          • cliff henny

            how slow would foles look compared to those 3. DAT is 7th/udfa on cbs’ board. was 4th/5th last i looked at RBs, which was over month.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t know man. Speed is king. If D’AT times as fast as he looks, I don’t see how he could go 7th/UDFA under any circumstance.

            And yeah, I wouldn’t even put Foles on the field for a triple option play. Kelly showed a little wildcat with Brad Smith–which everyone hated, because it didn’t work–but if they have a triple option package they put in during TC, I think it could do some serious damage. When you have 3 options on a run play, say, Shady running IZR with D’AT, and Desean in motion the opposite way, you don’t necessarily need the passing element involved, IMO–the defense is going to have a hell of a time just trying to figure out who’s going where, and who has the ball.

          • cliff henny

            true, 4.2 would be tough to pass up 6 times. gotta pick a draft site and follow the movers. i’m not good enough to rank players.

          • Richard Colton

            Double Ghost Motion? mind…blown

          • Richard Colton

            somebody will take him in the 4th, resulting in cursing and a broken TV at the Colton house

          • theycallmerob

            what if that someone is Howie (in the 4th)?

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll wonder if it’s too high. Probably be OK with it though. Going to be a tough May ’round these parts when we draft: OT/WR/TE/RB in rounds 1 through 4.

        • NickS1

          Was that last sentence to get him going again? He and I had a little discussion about the luck v. sports science regarding injuries. While I appreciate what sports science does in the nagging stuff, doesn’t people from falling into knees, etc.

      • RIP illa

        Why not just get Huff, who’s still a WR but built like a back? I’m not feeling the undersized tweeners (RB/WR) or OWs. All of our backs can catch really well out of the backfield I don’t see a need to bring in another guy who’s not gonna give you anything different from the main 3 and who’s way smaller. Give me a big Goal line back to compete or maybe take Polk’s spot, depending on how his Shoulder and body are doing or hold up.

        • moesus

          DAT can give you production from the WR spot but Huff isn’t going to give you anything as a RB. DAT is a better return man (although Huff is pretty good) and I’m sure Chip would get production from DAT out of the backfield, both running and catching. Kelly doesn’t really use big, bruiser type backs. So I would be very surprised if we grabbed one in any fashion.

          • GEAGLE

            Eventually I’m going to get around to watching DAT film. I’m interested because I hear he is really good at those pivot routes that Welker has mastered. He is said to be the type of weapon that stretches the field Horizontally, and paired with Desean who stretches it vertically! it could help create more space for everyone else to isolate and take advantage of mismatches! assuming dat can grow into a weapon teams have to respect. My auto correct butchers my punctuation

          • anon

            was surprised to see most of his tape was catching passes.

          • GEAGLE

            Hoping his cut up film includes his ST play

          • moesus

            He’s a very good receiver. If he gets in space, it’s over. He’s got moves like Shady and is significantly faster. Can’t stretch the field deep but 15-20 yard seam routes are all day.

          • RIP illa

            But yet we saw DJax lined up in the backfield a decent amount. I’m not gonna doubt that DAT is the better runner out of the backfield, but w/ what we have now at RB, I’d rather see some one who has Huff’s body type and speed used outta the backfield, as needed, more than a DAT or Jackson type. Plus, he is a good returner, so he does have vision (not getting how you can say he gives or would give nothing as an RB) and is a way better WR than DAT. So I’m not talking about using him as strictly an RB. And guess what neither would DAT!!! I’m talking about having him out there, motioning or either lined up in the backfield w/ Shady or Brown or Polk. Wheel routes out of the back, double screens, maybe motion him out and get a LB stuck on him, maybe a carry or two…etc.

          • moesus

            Obviously I can’t predict the future, I’m just going by what I’ve seen from both guys. DAT is more dangerous and explosive all around than Huff. I like them both though and Kelly knows them better than I do and knows what he wants. I’m not going to second guess whomever he drafts.

          • Andy124

            Legarrette Blount?

          • moesus

            Inherited from Belotti and only played two games with Chip as HC. Did very well the season before with Chip as OC but that system was drastically different.

          • anon

            I really liked what he did but help cost money we should be spending elsewhere. Also our line isn’t as good at power blocking as pats.

        • GEAGLE

          Don’t see what Huff would have to do with our stable of running backs. I dont hate huff. Chip knows his game, if we spend a draft pick on him, I would be excited because it means Chip really believes in him…we added a lot of Ducks last year, but we didn’t invest anything valuable in any of them, and you didn’t see us over reach in the draft for Ducks..so if Chip deems huff draft pick worthy, I’d be very excited…
          ….
          Still hurts missing out on the big 3, Dion,Kiko and Long

          • RIP illa

            It’s pretty much the same as me not seeing what DAT has to do w/ our stable of RBs!!! Point I was trying to make is that Huff is a better WR than DAT is or will be and has the build and speed to be used out of the backfield and take some hits.

          • GEAGLE

            I just don’t think one would take the other off our draft board is I guess what I’m trying to say…If they are both at the top of our board when it’s time to pick, I wouldn’t view them as redundant additions

          • moesus

            Huff is the same size as Maclin and roughly Shady. Not sure why you think he’s so big. He also doesn’t have Shady’s moves to avoid big hits. There’s probably a reason he wasn’t used in the backfield at Oregon.

            I like him as a WR though but I wouldn’t expect much more (KR maybe)

          • RIP illa

            “Built Like”… Roughly the same size as Shady…well Shady’s an RB!!! And what’s DAT’s size??? Being built like is not the same thing as being the same size. Huff is thick from top to bottom then one would normally expect of a WR his size. The weight is there to be able to stand up over the course of games in the league but the frame and/or how he’s built is what makes it special and standout. Playing RB is not about can you take the big hits, as much as it a about can you withstand the totality of the beating you’re gonna take.

            I’m not sayin this to change your opinion…just to clear up my message.

          • moesus

            No problem, I misunderstood a bit. DAT is obviously smaller but he’s like Shady in the way he doesn’t take big hits. Huff doesn’t have the moves to avoid those shots but he is thick like you said. I just think DAT brings more to Chip’s offensive scheme than Huff. Huff really didn’t break out until Kelly was gone.

            It’s all speculation at this point anyway. We could get oth, we could get neither.

    • RIP illa

      I don’t see it from Polk. Too much tread used up, not great at cutting back and exploding out, limited vision, not enough wiggle along w/o having the power of a Bettis, O’koye, or Lynch. I like the guy on our team, but I’m more impressed w/ Tuckers run style and ability than I am w/ Polk’s.

      Could see us bring in some competition, but I really like our backs as they are. The guy we bring in would have to be very special. And that’s not DAT for me. He’s not an RB!!! If anything, I would want us to get a bigger better bruiser than Polk, to complement Shady’s shiftiness and Bryce’s speed.

  • Kev_H

    95 of McCoy’s 315 rushing attempts resulted in 1 yard or worse. They need to do better than that if Kelly is wedded to running. Maybe mix in someone who can drag tackles, get 2-3 tough yards and keep the downs and distances manageable.

    • cliff henny

      some of that was shady. he’ll be better next year. first time he ever ran this type of offense. scary thought.
      .
      edit, thinking about it, as many times as it was his fault, sure he avoided at least as many in backfield. so, yeah, block better for him.

      • theycallmerob

        you were right in the 1st paragraph. How many times did Kelly talk about Shady leaving yards on the field?
        He’s going to ride his a** about working hard to be the best rb in the NFL. And even in such limited time with the Eagles, there’s no motivator in the NFL I’d take over Kelly right now.

        • cliff henny

          could look at ’95’ and think, what would that number be if shady wasnt doing his thing back there. also, want the 2 or 3yds when that’s that there, but, shady is shady, not many guys can go backwards for 3 and get 10. so, that 95 is a loaded number or one you can look at a couple different ways. in the end, less traffic in backfield.

    • JofreyRice

      I was frustrated by some of those runs, too, but are you sure you’re not just fixating on the last game, a little, Kev? If you believe what you read, the negative plays are part of the deal, because they encourage overpursuit by the D, which a good RB–like Shady–is going to rip off a big one against, at some point.

      • anon

        I think a lot of them were b/c of (a) line troubles and (b) the unblocked defender just crashing on shady instead of respecting the option. Runs were a lot more effecting once Casey starting playing HB.

        Having an offseason i think Kelly will scheme better ways to make plays more effective. But best part about the offense is that we had 4-5 different offensive strategies as the year changed. That’s what you see in Billecheat coached teams — adjustments.

        • John J. King

          And part of Kelly’s history is that there are always lots of plays that get stopped but when they work as written down, explode big time. Look at the stats from Oregon. Pretty much the same. Browns is very fast but a raw talent. 1st they taught him to hold onto the ball. Next year to hit the hole faster and bounce out less. He is big enough to run through tackles too.

    • Richard Colton

      guess the Barry Sanders comparisons work both ways. Shady could never play for the Shanahans, could he?

    • UKEagle99

      That’s Kelly’s MO. It was the same at Oregon…

  • cliff henny

    see if Brown can regain some form. ’12, guessing wasnt a ton of thinking, reid let him naturally run. kelly got in his head about fumbles, and rightly so. plus, new running scheme. he quits the needless bouncing, stops tripping over his own feet and getting tackled by yardage line, hopefully give shady some rest. polk, give him those 3rd/4th and 1 after deadball where defense can line up. hate seeing shady take those hits. in hurry up, no need. isaiah crowell, got thrown out of Georgia (that might be an issue, really have to mess up to do that) is really cheap, 7th/udfa per cbs, but he was a beast.

  • JofreyRice

    I’d be looking to get better here, if possible. There are so many good backs available. Ka’Deem Carey, Bishop Sankey, Lache Seastrunk, Gaffney. Those are higher draft pick guys, but there are viable runners all over. Smorgasboard of choices.

    Brown strikes me as a bit of an odd bird; I don’t think there’s going to be a lot of patience for him if it doesn’t seem like he loves the game. I like Polk, but didn’t he have surgery on the same shoulder that knocked him out of the draft? After playing on ST’s and getting 11 touches? That’s gentle use. Makes you wonder if there is a chronic nature to that injury (possibly degenerative).

    • RIP illa

      That’s pretty much been the word on Polk in relation to that injury. Still I just don’t know about trying to get “better”. I like all 4 of our backs a lot. I think Polk is a jack of all trades type. Love Tucker’s one cut and explosion. Shady is so shady. And Brown has shown improvement. A lot of people see it as regression or that he hasn’t lived up to the hype or whatever…dude’s a 7th round pick. He’s shown improvement from last season, and for the beginning to the end of this season, he showed improvement. He hasn’t put it all together yet, but I think he can, who’s to say that he will or won’t…besides the coaches. Yeah he is a bit of an odd one. However, his size and speed combo are rare for this league. And unlike how we judge aware off of size and speed, like Momah and such, he actually shows flashes of what his game can be like when it’s all coming together.

      • JofreyRice

        I can’t say I know enough about Tucker to have much of an opinion. He’s a pretty nice height/weight/speed guy, but so is Brown.

        It’s an interesting perspective that Brown has shown improvement. Definitely better at holding onto the ball, and didn’t look as bad passblocking, but he didn’t look that good running the ball, to me. Some of it may have been adjusting to a perimeter run game, but it just seemed like he picked the wrong holes, or passed them up in favor of trying to take the corner. I want him to have some serious competition, if anything, and I’m not sure Polk provides that, with his injury.

        • GEAGLE

          He actually had some really good moments in pass protection(brown)..was actually surprised to see him pick up a few f those exotic cardinal blitzes as well as he did, so soon in his development(being so raw)…People already forgetting some of the skill he flashed his rookie year. I would expect him to be improved next year having another offseason in this scheme, but if he doesn’t make a big jump next year, I would look to replace him.
          ,,,
          I like Polks game, but another year of shoulder problems and I’d pull the plug

          • anon

            no serious time playing in college = no tread on tires, but also just really raw back. silly to get rid of him especially for what you’re paying him.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah it’s way too soon for someone so raw..

            he spent his rookie year showing some impressive skill
            Spent his sophomore year drastically improving hns pass protection and ball security. I’m very curious to see what he looks Iike in his 3rd year…we throw the word raw around, but a lot of the time we are talking about a guy who recently switched positions like Lane,Dion,Anthony Barr types???but Bryce is REALLY friggin RAW, as in NO COLLEGE career Raw. All thinks considered he has shown some impressive ability so soon in his pro career. Obviously he has driven me crazy at times too, but it’s the cost of doing business with young players. As long as he doesn’t plateau, I’m still curious to see who he can become. And when you fix your fumbling issues and really improve your pass protection in one season, I can’t see how he can be considered to have Plataeud

        • RIP illa

          All of that’s pretty true. Running stretches over and over again sucked!!! Didn’t really see him pick the wrong hole, so much as it was him looking for the home run and/or not turn up field immediately. I mean yes some of it was definitely him picking the wrong hole, but not every time. Anyway, later in the year he pretty much cut that out and it was greatly reduced. Started to get his shoulder square quicker, and head North South before trying to see what the outside offered. It was like he stopped pressing and started to trust in the system a little and would actually try to make it through the line 1st, as he should have all along. It also helped that Kelly and co. reduced the numbers of stretches called, giving all of our backs a chance to do what they do and options instead of just being pinned to the sidelines.

          • JofreyRice

            haha, “licking the wrong hole” better edit that before you become RIP RIP illa!

            I’m down to see what Bryce can do,.but I want to see him take a step to take some of the load off Shady. I mean, no one’s mentioning it, but if Shady goes down in Training camp, what would that do the the 2014 Eagles?

          • RIP illa

            Lol…Freudian autocorrect!!! Shady getting hurt would be huge…but I don’t think, and not has the FO shown, that it would panic and scramble for the next best thing. Brown and Polk would split the reps, and Tucker or drafted guy will move into the rotation. Would be interesting to see how they do in that situation, but none of us really want to find out.

          • GEAGLE

            Tell you the truth, i know it’s odd, but I don’t fear losing shady as much as most. I didn’t forget Bryce running like an absolute beast behind a historically bad Oline last year. RB is a Rythem position, and Bryce didn’t consistently get the touches this year. have a feeling that if he gets 20 carries, we start seeing some of that beast we saw run as a rookie

          • Andy124

            I think that’s entirely likely.

          • RIP illa

            Don’t want it but don’t fear it either.

          • GEAGLE

            Especially since I expect our line to be much improved next year

          • RIP illa

            It better be. Shady covered up a lot of their faults in the run game as well as Kelly did in the passing game. They were still good, but not as great as some of us would like to think.

          • cliff henny

            think you are forgetting how many times shady had 2+ guys standing infront of him for 2 or 3 yds loss, and only shady being shady turned it into a positive. hope now that kelly has full off-season to work on running game with foles under center, see alot less traffic in backfield for shady to navigate thru. personally, i cringe at the thought of losing shady.

          • RIP illa

            I’m pretty sure he knows. It’s just that (at least for me) I think we got some good backs behind him and we still got Kelly, so I don’t see it as a sky is falling kinda thing.

          • GEAGLE

            Shady is the best back in football, obviously it would be a loss, but I feel decent about what’s behind him and their ability to step up if opportunity presents itself…I mean, how many teams really have a backup comperable to their starting running back? Ben Tate, bernard pierce, Rashard Jennings? BRyce has a ton of ability, I want to give these coaches some time to get it out of him…I liked the way he started to run late in the year..plus I’m expecting Nick to be surgical wit it next year!!! Fly Folesy Fly!

          • NickS1

            If he’s licking the wrong hole but still hittin it, good for him.

          • Andy124

            The wrong hole should never, ever be licked.

          • NickS1

            Only after a shower.

            EDIT: Or after too many.

          • Andy124

            Not even then.

            EDIT: Not then either, but lol.

          • theycallmerob
          • Andy124

            I now know some guys I’m never sharing a beer with.

          • cliff henny

            make sure you never leave a drink un-attented, is all.

          • NickS1

            lol

          • JofreyRice

          • NickS1

            I miss ODB

          • NickS1

            Boooo shouldn’t have changed it!

        • Clamdigger

          Trent Richardson and Eddie Lacy are very similar physically, but you can see the difference when you watch them.

          Brown seems like a really gifted athlete, but he just doesn’t seem like a football player to me. I’m just a random idiot and there’s no predicting the future, but that’s the feeling I get watching him.

          Occasionally he’ll make a play (like that stiff arm and long run against the Bears) but something just seems off.

          • anon

            Gotta remember Brown didn’t have any time in college to learn a system, he’s still really raw, but will probably have a longer shelf life. So much talent, i hope you aren’t right about his desire to play — hopefully the pay check will be enough motivation.

            Lesson to kids everywhere — go to school.

  • GEAGLE

    Would I want more talent? Sure who,wouldn’t…but investing in a back, takes away from investing in another position, and I feel their are better ways to allocate our resources then quitting on one of our young backs this soon in the process. Want to see Polk and Bryce one more year before I’m comfortable giving up on either

    • Andy124

      I’d like to add Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster and Jamal Charles to back up Shady.

      • GEAGLE

        Sure..why not? Sign me up

      • Justin

        Shit, who needs wide receivers? Can you just put all four RBs in the back field with Foles at once?

        • Andy124

          Quintuple option!

    • MoreRecentTimes

      Problem with Bryce is his unwillingness to take it up the gut. At 220lbs, its a sin to try and bounce every run outside. He definitely improved as the yr. Went on, but you saw more Polk around the goalline for a reason.

      • Jonathan Tino

        But when you run a sub 4.4, its a sin not to try to bounce outside sometimes.

  • IAteLunchToday

    3.4 yds/carry!? That’s 1st round quality in Indy; Howie needs to get Jim Irsay on the phone.

    • theycallmerob

      him or CLE (no rb talent either). Let Brown run behind Shanahan’s zone scheme, they could do worse. Get a 5th or 6th
      #morepolk

      • Giorgos Kassakos

        They gave a first to draft Richardson and a first to draft Weeden. We can get a 3rd from them for Brown and they would still say ‘thank you’.

  • Damon

    Polk should be number 2

    • Richard Colton

      who does number two work for?

  • Rick H

    I do believe the Eagles need another back other then Brown. Shady is unbelievable but not as flexible as Westbrook was in terms of flanking him out and running the screen plays. Where that back comes from is the question? A veteran free agent which is hard to find or the draft as far or farther down then the 5th round? The offense needs another dimension and or threat.

  • Andy124

    Where’s the damn fast forward button. FA. Draft. TC. Next Season. All need to get here yesterday.

    • GEAGLE

      I’d be happy for the friggin combine right about now

  • theycallmerob
    • GEAGLE

      They are def going to hire Kyle.. Wish they were in our division

      • anon

        I really feel for Brown’s fans they have a ton of talent on that team. A ton of picks. But front office is terrible. Hope perfume does a good job they handed him a team on a platter but he’s gotta find a qb and deal with that front office.

        Wouldn’t be surprised if they use one of the firsts on an olb since they are moving to a 3-4. Maybe there is room to trade if kvn is there at 22. Also taking Kyle makes me think they are going to go get manziel.

  • GEAGLE

    If running back is a two on the priority scale, out of curious it’s, what in the world would get a grade of 1?

    • anon

      Qb!

      • A Roy

        They gave QB a “3”.

        • Jonathan Tino

          That’s because we needed a backup with vick leaving.

    • Giorgos Kassakos

      Punter, assuming Jones comes back.

    • Richard Colton

      Longsnapper

  • Joe L

    I can see the Eagles drafting a guy like Charles Sims at some point on day 2/3. He’s bigger than LeSean, but he comes from a history of wide open offense and has shown he can really catch the ball. They showed some interest in him during the Senior Bowl, too.

  • PaoliBulldog

    I’d be happy with Shady, Brown and Polk but expect the Eagles to use a weekend pick on an RB who could push one of them (and Tucker).

  • Bladerunner9

    This discussion is moot due to the over-reliance on 25 and the forced hibernation of the other backs.We don’t want to feature anyone else.Shady’s gonna get his 20-25 carries, leaving nothing but mop-up for anyone else.Understandable given his stature in the league.Polk,in particular, is wasted in this system so far.

    • anon

      We def. aren’t running by committee. Hopefully now that shady’s won a rushing title / got some accolades he can back off. Agree we should have more spelling considering strength of the depth.

      That said, if i’m shady do i want someone else eating my stats? i still worth the money if i get 1,200 instead of 1,600 yds in a season?

  • MoreRecentTimes

    Brown ran scared this yr.. Scared of going between the tackles. Scared of putting the rock on the ground.I’d hate to lose the guy, he has tremendous abilltiy. But when you have a no nonsense north-south runner like Polk, who’s style is tailor made for the blocking scheme, breathing down your neck, you have no room for error. Add in how well Polk played in kick coverage and Brown becomes a candidate for a draft day swap.

    At Oregon, they seem to employ at least one guy who is equally good carrying the rock as he is splitting out wide and catching it. The Eagles had some success using Desean in that role this yr., but ultimately he’s not a guy you wanna run an inside zone with. It’d be interesting to see them grab someone to use the way they did De’Anthony Thomas. I haven’t seen a mock with his projected draft position yet, but man would he be an addition to this cast!

  • Birdgang215

    Don’t need to use a mid/high draft pick on a back up rb. Plenty of productive backs can be had as udfa. Especially in a system like chips. Look at what zone blocking and other schemes have done for late pick/no name backs. That said if they can get DAT with maybe a fourth I would be really excited as he brings more to the table than a normal backup.

  • Tiburon

    LeGarrette Blount is a free-agent to be. I know it’s sexy to talk about Oregon reunion kinds of things, but it’s also not totally crazy talk. Apparently everyone loves playing for Kelly, and now that the Birds are evolving into contenders once again, people may want to start playing here again.

  • Maggie

    Guy’s not even in the ground and you’re complaining about something he did 25 years ago? And what does letting Reggie White leave all those years ago have to do with today? If during all those years in between the team has been unable to recover, there’s a lot more wrong in Philly.

  • NineseveN

    That’s some cold shite right there, the dude freaking died today. He’s not even relevant to the discussion at this point and really hasn’t been for a long, long time.

  • Media Mike

    Get out of my face with that. Did Gamble ever apologize for ruining out team? PLEASE direct me to that article.

  • Media Mike

    Harry Gamble has never apologized for being a major party to the destruction of a team full of guys I idolized and made me an Eagles fan. This article went up faster than I could fully vent on the Gamble article and some perspective on what Harry Gamble actually did as GM is horrifically missing from the media commentary on his passing.