So Thoreau: 6BR Home Within the Schuylkill Valley Nature Center

Nature! Trees! The jackhammer of woodpeckers. The burnish of fireflies. The postprandial belch of bullfrogs. It’s all at hand around this beautiful home–4,700 square feet of living space that’s not only close to nature, it’s embededded in Nature with a captial N. Built in 1850, the six-bedroom, four-bathroom home shares land is within the Schuylkill Valley Nature Center, though its two acres are separated from Nature Center visitors by a private road. Inside the three-story house, historical details have been preserved, from woodwork to wood floors. But it’s the environment that really makes the home special.

The land, the ambience, is charming and peaceful–the kind of place where the current owners, who have been in the house for 27 years, sit in the kitchen and watch birds flit to their feeder. And not just the feeder: A local horticulturalist created a mini arboretum on the property with young and mature trees and plants that bloom–and attract birds–year-’round. Aside from the natural music, the quiet of the place is profound.

Finally, there are some interesting historical juxtapositions that really bring out the property’s age. For instance, the two-car garage also has two horse stalls. The outbuilding used as an office/workshop has also been used as a root cellar.

The current asking price is $559,900 and the sale is being handled by Rosemary Fluehr.



• Listing: 150 Spring Lane [Prudential Fox Roach]

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  • kestral

    This manor house is on gorgeous land which has conservation easements held by the Natural Land Trust so it will remain as is. Only 25 mins from the airport in Phila wilderness! It is within the Schuylkill Center for Environmental Education~ The SCEE check it out….

  • kestral

    This manor house is on gorgeous land which has conservation easements held by the Natural Land Trust so it will remain as is. Only 25 mins from the airport in Phila wilderness! It is within the Schuylkill Center for Environmental Education~ The SCEE check it out….

  • Sam

    Our family friends live in this house. I have always loved it since I was a child. Only wish I could buy it.

  • Sam

    Our family friends live in this house. I have always loved it since I was a child. Only wish I could buy it.

  • EuropeanEagle

    “[This person’s credibility has forever been erased] on the prospects of Vick (and the rest of the QBs) making it through a full 16 games.”.

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

  • EuropeanEagle

    “[This person’s credibility has forever been erased] on the prospects of Vick (and the rest of the QBs) making it through a full 16 games.”.

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

  • Heartbroken Eagle-fan

    Too much of the Eagles Kool-Aid!! I predict Chargers 27-24 with +2 on TO differrential.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      I say 27-24 either way.

  • Heartbroken Eagle-fan

    Too much of the Eagles Kool-Aid!! I predict Chargers 27-24 with +2 on TO differrential.

    • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

      I say 27-24 either way.

  • ClydeSide

    Chip will keep the pedal to the medal for the first 56 minutes–THEN he will go to his 4 minute offense. This will take the pressure off his weak secondary. I bet that the entire team was watching Oregon yesterday. 52-10 EXPLOSION.

  • ClydeSide

    Chip will keep the pedal to the medal for the first 56 minutes–THEN he will go to his 4 minute offense. This will take the pressure off his weak secondary. I bet that the entire team was watching Oregon yesterday. 52-10 EXPLOSION.

  • FluxCapacitor

    Is Jason La Canfora really saying there is no QB protection – and it is by design? This guy cracks me up more every time he opens up his mouth.

    • Media Mike

      Maybe he’s sitting on Joe Banner’s lap as he’s saying these things. Maybe one part of Joe Banner is so far inside of La Canfora’s rear end that the tip of it is coming out of his mouth and doing the talking?

      • Mr. Wu

        damn….I wish I didn’t read that…..what’s read cannot be unread

        • Media Mike

          The truth, no matter how ugly, is still the truth my friend.

      • Adam

        Really..

        • Media Mike

          Hey, I was trying to take the concept of “mouthpiece” to a whole new level.

    • BlindChow

      Well, you know how many QB’s the Ducks go through every year…

    • KobraKai7474

      Option offenses by their very definition leave players, especially the QB and the RBs open to additional hits. The whole point is to leave a key player on defense unblocked and then get that player to bite on a fake…. In other words, to get that defender to hit either the RB or the QB even though they don’t actually have the ball. That means additional hard hits over and above those that come on plays where they actually run or catch the ball.

      • Kuney

        Time to go back to the dojo for more lessons Johnny. In 1984 that definition of option football may be true because we would be talking about the traditional option sweep.
        This is the read option and yes there is an unblocked player but its about getting him to commit not hit. Then the numbers can be exploited.
        Vick took too many hits but those were break downs by players in the design not the design itself. Lane is still a rookie and Vick will always live on the edge.
        HONK….

        • Johnny Domino

          Sure can option sweep, but can you sweep the leg?

          • Kuney

            I knew it was there some where…

        • KobraKai7474

          If you watched or read some of the detailed breakdowns of the plays the Eagles used on Monday, you will see the same thing I did and the same thing Jason LaCanfora did: An offense that looks shockingly similar to the veer I ran in high school. Obviously, the personnel, formations and plays are different but the concept is exactly the same: The offense purposely leaves a key defender unblocked and the QB makes a read based on what that unblocked defender does. The thing is that oftentimes that unblocked defender puts a shoulder pad into the QB’s gut a split second after he throws the ball.

          • Kuney

            Oh you played highschool football never mind then.
            Did you use a lot zone blocking schemes in highschool?
            You ran a veer….like remember the titans….did rev teach it to you?
            In all seriousness though yes that one defender is unblocked but in those instances there’s a quick pass to be had.
            His down field passing concepts were very sound and in reading those breakdowns you probably saw the max protect play action that led to Djax’s big score. Stolen direct from Sean Payton.
            What your highshool, team didn’t do was combine offensive philosophies and play at a tempo that left your opposing defenses tired and guessing and inane to stick it your gut.
            It’s not just option football it’s an entire system. We’ve seen one game…he hasn’t even gone to a 3 tightend set yet.

            Lastly LaCanfora….really….who your next source Ashely fox?

    • SoCalEaglesFan

      No. He’s saying that the offense often leaves a defender unblocked by design. And if you watched Oregon, it’s true. It’s the QB’s responsibility to avoid. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don’t.

      What he didn’t say was there is NO QB protection.

      That design combined with Vick’s propensity to play recklessly when he runs pretty much guarantees that he isn’t going to last 16 games. Nothing revolutionary. We all already know that.

      • FluxCapacitor

        We read it differently. I 100% understand keeping a defender free in one spot in order to get better numbers elsewhere, but that is not playing “loose”…unless I completely misunderstand the term.

        The guy is still a tool either way. :)

  • FluxCapacitor

    Is Jason La Canfora really saying there is no QB protection – and it is by design? This guy cracks me up more every time he opens up his mouth.

    • Media Mike

      Maybe he’s sitting on Joe Banner’s lap as he’s saying these things. Maybe one part of Joe Banner is so far inside of La Canfora’s rear end that the tip of it is coming out of his mouth and doing the talking?

      • Mr. Wu

        damn….I wish I didn’t read that^^…..what’s read cannot be unread

        • Media Mike

          The truth, no matter how ugly, is still the truth my friend.

      • Adam

        Really..

        • Media Mike

          Hey, I was trying to take the concept of “mouthpiece” to a whole new level.

    • BlindChow

      Well, you know how many QB’s the Ducks go through every year…

    • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

      Option offenses by their very definition leave players, especially the QB and the RBs open to additional hits. The whole point is to leave a key player on defense unblocked and then get that player to bite on a fake…. In other words, to get that defender to hit either the RB or the QB even though they don’t actually have the ball. That means additional hard hits over and above those that come on plays where they actually run or catch the ball.

      • Kuney

        Time to go back to the dojo for more lessons Johnny. In 1984 that definition of option football may be true because we would be talking about the traditional option sweep.
        This is the read option and yes there is an unblocked player but its about getting him to commit not hit. Then the numbers can be exploited.
        Vick took too many hits but those were break downs by players in the design not the design itself. Lane is still a rookie and Vick will always live on the edge.
        HONK….

        • Johnny Domino

          Sure you can option sweep, but can you sweep the leg?

          • Kuney

            I knew it was there some where…

        • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

          If you watched or read some of the detailed breakdowns of the plays the Eagles used on Monday, you will see the same thing I did and the same thing Jason LaCanfora did: An offense that looks shockingly similar to the veer I ran in high school. Obviously, the personnel, formations and plays are different but the concept is exactly the same: The offense purposely leaves a key defender unblocked and the QB makes a read based on what that unblocked defender does. The thing is that oftentimes that unblocked defender puts a shoulder pad into the QB’s gut a split second after he throws the ball.

          • Kuney

            Oh you played highschool football never mind then.
            Did you use a lot zone blocking schemes in highschool?
            You ran a veer….like remember the titans….did rev teach it to you?
            In all seriousness though yes that one defender is unblocked but in those instances there’s a quick pass to be had.
            His down field passing concepts were very sound and in reading those breakdowns you probably saw the max protect play action that led to Djax’s big score. Stolen direct from Sean Payton.
            What your highshool, team didn’t do was combine offensive philosophies and play at a tempo that left your opposing defenses tired and guessing and inane to stick it your gut.
            It’s not just option football it’s an entire system. We’ve seen one game…he hasn’t even gone to a 3 tightend set yet.

            Lastly LaCanfora….really….who your next source Ashely fox?

    • SoCalEaglesFan

      No. He’s saying that the offense often leaves a defender unblocked by design. And if you watched Oregon, it’s true. It’s the QB’s responsibility to avoid. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don’t.

      What he didn’t say was there is NO QB protection.

      That design combined with Vick’s propensity to play recklessly when he runs pretty much guarantees that he isn’t going to last 16 games. Nothing revolutionary. We all already know that.

      • FluxCapacitor

        We read it differently. I 100% understand keeping a defender free in one spot in order to get better numbers elsewhere, but that is not playing “loose”…unless I completely misunderstand the term.

        The guy is still a tool either way. :)

  • Daniel Norman Richwine

    After watching what Texas A&M’s spread attack did to the best defense in college football, is there any doubt that it can work at this level? This offense may score 50 multiple times this year, and the funny thing is, Michael Vick is by no leans the perfect QB to run it!

  • Daniel Norman Richwine

    After watching what Texas A&M’s spread attack did to the best defense in college football, is there any doubt that it can work at this level? This offense may score 50 multiple times this year, and the funny thing is, Michael Vick is by no leans the perfect QB to run it!

  • Media Mike

    Bill Simmons = Boston D bag.

    • KobraKai7474

      Agree but he makes a valid point about the line. Every yahoo in Vegas saw Monday’s first half and are betting on the Eagles to the point of irrationality. That is not to say the Eagles are going to lose. It is just saying that 8.5 is a LOT of points to lay when, in many ways, the Eagles and Chargers are similar teams with similar talent level early in a rebuilding phase.

  • Media Mike

    Bill Simmons = Boston D bag.

    • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

      Agree but he makes a valid point about the line. Every yahoo in Vegas saw Monday’s first half and are betting on the Eagles to the point of irrationality. That is not to say the Eagles are going to lose. It is just saying that 8.5 is a LOT of points to lay when, in many ways, the Eagles and Chargers are similar teams with similar talent level early in a rebuilding phase.

  • Will

    The Eagles blow out the Bolts 45-17, is it 1:00 yet?

    • BlindChow

      I’m a little surprised the scores for the Eagles aren’t higher in the above projections. They have to realize after last week we’re not going to be slowing down so soon after getting a lead…

      • Will

        Did you see Oregon yesterday go up 50-7?

  • Will

    The Eagles blow out the Bolts 45-17, is it 1:00 yet?

    • BlindChow

      I’m a little surprised the scores for the Eagles aren’t higher in the above projections. They have to realize after last week we’re not going to be slowing down so soon after getting a lead…

      • Will

        Did you see Oregon yesterday go up 50-7?

  • JamesDDl

    Keys on offense – MV patience and turnovers, it’s a 60 minute game. Due to weak bolts secondary see a role for DJ2 and completely different use of multiple TE sets from week 1.
    On D – Must control LOS and must get to Rivers. See a struggle on the back end today. Gates could be a problem

    • GEagle

      I agree…they are bad at covering TE’s. Today the 3TE package gets unveiled. Casey will score a redzone TD..
      ,,,
      Anyone know what time we find out who isn’t dressing?

  • JamesDDl

    Keys on offense – MV patience and turnovers, it’s a 60 minute game. Due to weak bolts secondary see a role for DJ2 and completely different use of multiple TE sets from week 1.
    On D – Must control LOS and must get to Rivers. See a struggle on the back end today. Gates could be a problem

    • GEagle

      I agree…they are bad at covering TE’s. Today the 3TE package gets unveiled. Casey will score a redzone TD..
      ,,,
      Anyone know what time we find out who isn’t dressing?

  • GEagle

    This game is getting on my nerves..hurry up and get here…It’s a very weird game for me in that it’s rare that I’m sooo clueless about an opponent. ..I know so little about the chargers, but what I do know is:
    1) Coming off an emotional letdown, short week to travel cross country.
    ..
    2) I know that there players can’t possibly be in better shape then ours..

    3) I know that there is no shot in hell that they are more prepared for us, then we are prepared for them.
    ..
    4) I know we boast the best player on the field, the shady aftermath show, and we finally have a coach that isn’t afraid to ride him
    ..
    5) I know that our defense should have an easier time against Rivers then they do against the Eagles offense in practice.
    ..
    6) I know that we have the right coaches, and teachers in place to keep our boys dialed in, focused and improving throughout the season..

    Does that all equate in an Eagles beat down of the Chargers? I think so….it’s just tough cause I don’t like talking about things that I’m iLL informed about..ok who Am I kidding? Time for being Rational is over lol. It’s GameTime…and the chargers((peasants) are about to enter the Colloseum to be fed to Lions and Gladiators in front of a blood thirsty rambunctious crowd who has little patience for Mercy…..FLY BIRDIES FLY!!!!!!

  • GEagle

    This game is getting on my nerves..hurry up and get here…It’s a very weird game for me in that it’s rare that I’m sooo clueless about an opponent. ..I know so little about the chargers, but what I do know is:
    1) Coming off an emotional letdown, short week to travel cross country.
    ..
    2) I know that there players can’t possibly be in better shape then ours..

    3) I know that there is no shot in hell that they are more prepared for us, then we are prepared for them.
    ..
    4) I know we boast the best player on the field, the shady aftermath show, and we finally have a coach that isn’t afraid to ride him
    ..
    5) I know that our defense should have an easier time against Rivers then they do against the Eagles offense in practice.
    ..
    6) I know that we have the right coaches, and teachers in place to keep our boys dialed in, focused and improving throughout the season..

    Does that all equate in an Eagles beat down of the Chargers? I think so….it’s just tough cause I don’t like talking about things that I’m iLL informed about..ok who Am I kidding? Time for being Rational is over lol. It’s GameTime…and the chargers((peasants) are about to enter the Colloseum to be fed to Lions and Gladiators in front of a blood thirsty rambunctious crowd who has little patience for Mercy…..FLY BIRDIES FLY!!!!!!

  • GEagle

    42-20 Eagles

  • GEagle

    42-20 Eagles

  • GEagle

    Attainable goals for today:

    TEs stop dropping balls.

    In the infamous words of the illustrious scholars also known as The Wu Tang Clan…Mike Vick needs to…Protect Ya Neck!!!

    Take Care of the ball on offense
    ..
    Take away the ball on defense
    ..
    Win the penalty battle by a decent margin. We live in the chaos. No way they can function in the chaos better then we can

  • GEagle

    Attainable goals for today:

    TEs stop dropping balls.

    In the infamous words of the illustrious scholars also known as The Wu Tang Clan…Mike Vick needs to…Protect Ya Neck!!!

    Take Care of the ball on offense
    ..
    Take away the ball on defense
    ..
    Win the penalty battle by a decent margin. We live in the chaos. No way they can function in the chaos better then we can

  • Rick H

    I would agree with the predictions but with one big exception (Turnovers) Mike Vick can be tremendous and he can then have a game when you least expect it and throw 2 interceptions and fumble once… We all have seen it. It is way too soon to assume anything.

  • Rick H

    I would agree with the predictions but with one big exception (Turnovers) Mike Vick can be tremendous and he can then have a game when you least expect it and throw 2 interceptions and fumble once… We all have seen it. It is way too soon to assume anything.

  • Johnny Domino

    Interested to see if Cole keeps improving as an OLB, compare and contrast with Freeney one year out.

  • Johnny Domino

    Interested to see if Cole keeps improving as an OLB, compare and contrast with Freeney one year out.

  • Engwrite

    My hope and fear is that the Eagles blow out the Chargers, sort of like last game’s first half dominance extended and maintained for the whole game. It is a hope because it would be fun to watch a dominant Eagle performance and go back to the early Reid days when the Eagles were transformed from perennial underdogs to usual favorites and fear because the national media would go crazy and that could adversely affect a team that is far from formed.

    • BlindChow

      You know, it would be really nice to enjoy a 4th quarter for once.

  • Engwrite

    My hope and fear is that the Eagles blow out the Chargers, sort of like last game’s first half dominance extended and maintained for the whole game. It is a hope because it would be fun to watch a dominant Eagle performance and go back to the early Reid days when the Eagles were transformed from perennial underdogs to usual favorites and fear because the national media would go crazy and that could adversely affect a team that is far from formed.

    • BlindChow

      You know, it would be really nice to enjoy a 4th quarter for once.

  • BlindChow

    Seeing the national pundits trying to poke holes in the Chip Kelly Experience (first it was that his offense wouldn’t work, then that it wouldn’t be sustainable, now it’s a QB-eater) is like the people in YouTube comments who fall all over themselves to accuse a video of being “FAKE!!!!”

    It’s like they’re just so terrified of having a trick pulled on them, they want to present themselves as the one guy who saw through it from the very beginning.

    • Kuney

      In 5 years when the league catches up they can say see I told you it wouldn’t work

  • BlindChow

    Seeing the national pundits trying to poke holes in the Chip Kelly Experience (first it was that his offense wouldn’t work, then that it wouldn’t be sustainable, now it’s a QB-eater) is like the people in YouTube comments who fall all over themselves to be the first to accuse a video of being “FAKE!!!!”

    It’s like they’re just so terrified of having a trick pulled on them, they want to present themselves as the one guy who saw through it from the very beginning.

    • Kuney

      In 5 years when the league catches up they can say see I told you it wouldn’t work

  • Will

    Have my DVR set to record forgot last week Eagles go 2-0 today, will be routing for KC today…..the next 3 hours are the longest….

  • Will

    Have my DVR set to record forgot last week Eagles go 2-0 today, will be routing for KC today…..the next 3 hours are the longest…let the doubters and haters hate they just look stupid….can’t stop this!!!!

  • KobraKai7474

    If I leave my emotions out of it, today’s game reeks of a potential letdown game. Let’s face it, they are coming off a hugely emotional win in a nationally televised game, and sometimes (actually MOST times) younger teams (or teams lacking in strong veteran leadership) have trouble getting back up for the next game after that kind of win. The Chargers, on the other hand, lost a game they could have won under the same circumstances so they could come out focused and a little desperate.

    To be clear, I still think this is a fairly easy win but….. well, let’s just say there are some red flags.

  • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

    If I leave my emotions out of it, today’s game reeks of a potential letdown game. Let’s face it, they are coming off a hugely emotional win in a nationally televised game, and sometimes (actually MOST times) younger teams (or teams lacking in strong veteran leadership) have trouble getting back up for the next game after that kind of win. The Chargers, on the other hand, lost a game they could have won under the same circumstances so they could come out focused and a little desperate.

    To be clear, I still think this is a fairly easy win but….. well, let’s just say there are some red flags.

  • Will

    Curious who is inactive today, will hint at game plan. Wonder if Vinny Curry gets his chance today.

    • GEagle

      If Vinny is unleashed he will have 2sacks, 4qb hits

      • Will

        Vinny Curry will wreak Havoc…LOL….94 minutes can’t wait for kick-off!

        • GEagle

          This had to be how the blood thirsty Romans felt the morning of an epic Colloseum battle where Peasants(Chargers) were going to be fed to The Lions(or Eagles)

  • Will

    Curious who is inactive today, will hint at game plan. Wonder if Vinny Curry gets his chance today.

    • GEagle

      If Vinny is unleashed he will have 2sacks, 4qb hits

      • Will

        Vinny Curry will wreak Havoc…LOL….94 minutes can’t wait for kick-off!

        • GEagle

          This had to be how the blood thirsty Romans felt the morning of an epic Colloseum battle where Peasants(Chargers) were going to be fed to The Lions(or Eagles)

  • GEagle

    Adam shelter just reported that the Eagles were close to trading for Kaoernick last year,we backe out of trading them a 2nd roun pick because we thought we would get Russel Wilson who “our entire draft was geared around, yet we had to settle for Zfoles”……ARE U FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?????

    • Token

      But you dont care about QBs.

      • GEagle

        Uhhh yeah I care Bout established top QBs, much more then the crap shoot that is drafting them…
        ..
        What a valuable contribution token..,exactly who wouldn’t care about AQUIRING KAp or Wilson? Lol

        • Token

          Hmmmm, So Kaep was established when the niners were supposedly talking about trading him here for a 2nd rounder? Russell Wilson was established when the Eagles supposedly wanted him in the draft? Come on, use your head.

      • Will

        Well hopefully they start to draft better in the years to come….like the changes in the player personnel Dept. and scouting Dept.

        • GEagle

          I like that our personel department knew That Russel Wilson and KAp wold be top QBs before they became top QBs…

          • Will

            Not crazy about the Matt Barkley pick ..

          • GEagle

            heck, you won’t ever find a post of me wanting Barkley leading up to the draft.but as a 4th round pick, I like it. I like that Chip thought enough of Bakley to take him inspite of his lack of mobility…Even if Barkley is never our starter, you know there is a good chance Howie will flip him for more valuable pics

    • nicksaenz1

      I spit my coffee out when I heard that.

      • GEagle

        could you imagine what we would look like with KAp? I love Vinny Curry, but I would have traded that pic for KAp…we could have still landed Cox,Mykal,KAp, Boykin, ,Kelly,Damaris,Bryce

        Kind of aggrivating that we got greedy, drafted Curry and risked Wilson not falling to us in round 3…Curry is one of my favorite players…but I would have gladly sacrificed him for Wilson. if we already had Wilson and Barkley as his back up….we wouldn’t have to worry about QBs for like 8 years….God I wish Shefter never reported this lol

        • nicksaenz1

          Same here man. I’ve already heard from a few friends whose reactions were “WTF!?!?!?!”

    • cwinnipeg

      The silver lining is that if we got Kap, Andy may have saved his job and still be here. Id rather have Chip and what we have now than Andy and Kap. Maybe we can draft Mariota after the season.

      • GEagle

        Touche

  • GEagle

    Adam shelter just reported that the Eagles were close to trading for Kaoernick last year,we backed out of trading them a 2nd round pick at the last minute because we thought we would get Russel Wilson who “our entire draft was geared around, yet we had to settle for foles”……ARE U FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?????
    ..
    It took every bit of restraint I had to not curse up a storm while posting this…What a Mind F***

    • Token

      But you dont care about QBs.

      • GEagle

        Uhhh yeah I care Bout established top QBs, much more then the crap shoot that is drafting them…
        ..
        What a valuable contribution token..,exactly who wouldn’t care about AQUIRING KAp or Wilson? Lol

        • Token

          Hmmmm, So Kaep was established when the niners were supposedly talking about trading him here for a 2nd rounder? Russell Wilson was established when the Eagles supposedly wanted him in the draft? Come on, use your head.

          Tell me, how often do these top established QBs get traded?

      • Will

        Well hopefully they start to draft better in the years to come….like the changes in the player personnel Dept. and scouting Dept.

        • GEagle

          I like that our personel department knew That Russel Wilson and KAp would be top QBs before they became top QBs…

          These past two arts were home runs…I’m done worrying about our drafting acumen. FO has made a believer out of me…
          To think, our Front office was trying to have a draft like: Cox,Kendricks,Russel Wilson, Boykin, Dennis Kelly, Bryce, Damaris….That would have been an insane draft. two gat drafts in a row, have made me a believer. They now get the benefit of the doubt til proven otherwise

          • Will

            Not crazy about the Matt Barkley pick ..

          • GEagle

            heck, you won’t ever find a post of me wanting Barkley leading up to the draft.but as a 4th round pick, I like it. I like that Chip thought enough of Bakley to take him inspite of his lack of mobility…Even if Barkley is never our starter, you know there is a good chance Howie will flip him for more valuable pics

    • NickS1

      I spit my coffee out when I heard that.

      • GEagle

        could you imagine what we would look like with KAp? I love Vinny Curry, but I would have traded that pic for KAp…we could have still landed Cox,Mykal,KAp, Boykin, ,Kelly,Damaris,Bryce

        Kind of aggrivating that we got greedy, drafted Curry and risked Wilson not falling to us in round 3…Curry is one of my favorite players…but I would have gladly sacrificed him for Wilson. if we already had Wilson and Barkley as his back up….we wouldn’t have to worry about QBs for like 8 years….God I wish Shefter never reported this lol

        • NickS1

          Same here man. I’ve already heard from a few friends whose reactions were “WTF!?!?!?!”

    • cwinnipeg

      The silver lining is that if we got Kap, Andy may have saved his job and still be here. Id rather have Chip and what we have now than Andy and Kap. Maybe we can draft Mariota after the season.

      • GEagle

        Touche

  • Will

    Any news on inactive list at this point for Eagles?

  • Will

    Any news on inactive list at this point for Eagles?

    • GEagle

      Dying to find out?…Vinny curry is inactive again

  • GEagle

    Every single ESPN analyst just picked the Eagles….that scares me

  • GEagle

    Every single ESPN analyst just picked the Eagles….that scares me

  • cwinnipeg

    Jason La Canfora became such an Eagles hater since he wrote that article trashing Howie Roseman during the coach search. He’s just mad

  • cwinnipeg

    Jason La Canfora became such an Eagles hater since he wrote that article trashing Howie Roseman during the coach search. He’s just mad

  • Gruvi

    This place should be renamed Geagle 24/7. Dude, get outside more and stop hogging up the comments sections here, please! I am super tired of seeing your incessant replying to everything! I have a idea that may help you; make your own blog and type your thoughts to your hearts content! Your schtick is pissing me off here.

  • Gruvi

    This place should be renamed Geagle 24/7. Dude, get outside more and stop hogging up the comments sections here, please! I am super tired of seeing your incessant replying to everything! I have a idea that may help you; make your own blog and type your thoughts to your hearts content! Your schtick is pissing me off here.

  • Gruvi

    Please tell me there is a way I can read comments without seeing certain users. Is there a blocking feature on this site to do so?

  • Gruvi

    Please tell me there is a way I can read comments without seeing certain users. Is there a blocking feature on this site to do so?

  • Token

    this last hour is taking forever.

    Gotta say, this is the type of game the Reid Eagles would come out and lay a egg. Really hoping for a different result under Chip. I expect better effort now game in and game out.

  • Mr. Wu

    “SAN DIEGO C***K S****RS!!!!” ……HAHAHAHA

  • RIP illa

    Barwin just killed Fluker

  • UKEagle99

    Lets hope they can force some turnovers. Phillip needs to throw us a few.

  • RIP illa

    Good call by Mecc! Saw it all the way

  • anon

    Ok, i can calm back down, nice stop, field goal.

  • Token

    bend dont break

  • Token

    Now Vicks gotta let it fly, get that ball out of his hands.

    • anon

      Herremans needs to get it together. I like how he pulled shady for not giving the ball to the ref.

      • RIP illa

        And then Brown goes in and does the same thing…lol

    • RIP illa

      Or the line has to hold up. You know there are DBs covering our WRs?!

      • Token

        cant hold it for 3.3 seconds like last week

        • Token

          Now thats how its done.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah line holds up and let’s him get through his progression. We all know Vick is not the quickest at going through his progression. But line still needs to hold up!

  • RIP illa

    Ran outta gas towards the end. Great play!

  • Token

    ugh, nevermind…. bad throw

  • RIP illa

    Jesus!!! Do we have a TE w/ reliable hands!

    • Token

      that was a awful throw, didnt help.

      • RIP illa

        Hate Hate Hate Hate!!!

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        He caught it…then lost it…couldn’t have been that bad a throw.

  • anon

    IS that Vick’s fault on the in-completion?

    • UKEagle99

      It was low but it was catchable.

    • RIP illa

      I hope that’s a joke! What does Casey get paid 4 mil to do??? Only catch perfect passes??? It was still an easy catch that he didn’t make!!! Get outta here w/ that Vick’s fault. Maybe Vick should just run it over to him and hand him the ball!

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Casey caught the ball. Then lost the ball. That’s on Casey.

  • UKEagle99

    They should get Donovan to throw to our tight ends pre-game on Thursday, they will catch balls like Casey dropped after that ;-P

    • RIP illa

      Lol. That was good.

  • Token

    i love how every player is fair game to criticize except Vick. Its hilarious.

    • UKEagle99

      Vick is fair game but the drop was on Casey imo, a low but very catchable ball.

    • RIP illa

      Dude your ridiculous! All you do is criticize Vick. It’s not only old but really ignorant, since you account for no other factors in any given play that you cite! Vick does his fair share of wrong! But damn lil homey…other players have to make plays too!!!

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Vick is more than fair game to criticize. But when you criticize on things that aren’t his fault you just seem like an idiot.

  • RIP illa

    Nate Allen…concussion! Everybody gets there chance to see Wolff now!

  • anon

    Well this is how you defeat the eagles, keep te offense off the field. so simple.

    • RIP illa

      Pretty much. But I still don’t see us losing this game!

  • RIP illa

    D needs to step it up before SD gets close to the 30.

  • B-West

    Just when I think I can’t despise Nate Allen anymore

  • Mr. Wu

    biggest hit nate allen has had in while

  • RIP illa

    We need to reevaluate our team doctors!!! How is Allen still in the game!!! Lol

  • RIP illa

    Wow…great job C-Will. Thought that was gonna b a big one.

  • anon

    Allen gets beat again

  • RIP illa

    Dammit!!! Allen ran around the route instead of going through it and directly to his man! SMH!!!

  • anon

    I think people are just attacking Allen at this point, knowing that he’s terrible.

    • RIP illa

      If by people you mean other teams, then you’re pretty much right. Any time the can get him in a one on one situation then they pretty much know they have a huge advatange. He has been pretty sound, not good or great when he’s playing like a safety and covering the top or zone. But when he’s playing man and up like a cb…it’s game over!

  • anon

    Bad pass Vick, fuck.

  • nicksaenz1

    Chip’s pissed.

  • RIP illa

    Have no idea what the hell Vick was doing on that!!! Had Lesean and Desean way open…come on

  • RIP illa

    Pitiful possession…all on Vick…even Brown getting killed!

  • anon

    Special teams looks great. But afraid we might not get the ball back before half time.

  • DunedinEagle

    This is what happens when the other team actually possesses the ball. That and Vick looks like well, Vick.

  • UKEagle99

    1 bad play on each drive has killed it. We need turnovers.

  • DunedinEagle

    Looked like Kendrick’s wanted to dance on that last tackle.

  • anon

    We are getting straight dominated at the line. Terrible.

  • RIP illa

    Better not be on C-Will

  • RIP illa

    This is getting depressing. Need the D to make a play

  • RIP illa

    Good thing Rivers is a 4th quarter choke artist!!! Can’t wait!!!

    • nicksaenz1

      I’d feel a lot better if we didn’t have to rely on that.

      • RIP illa

        Trust me…so would I.

  • RIP illa

    Thank You Mecc!!! Kendricks needs to blow him up on that play or at least wrap up!

  • DunedinEagle

    Eagles fan base is collectively pumping the brakes.

    • Mr. Wu

      screeeeeeeeeAAACH!

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Eagles fan base is schizophrenic.

      If everything doesn’t start perfectly it’s “The world is over we’re DOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!”

      When things go well it’s “We’re the BEST EVER!!! We’re gonna win the SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!”

      SMH

      Everyone needs to take a collective breath.

      • Mr. Wu

        ahh I feel better now…TD’s are my przac…….better up my dose Dr. Big Butt :)

      • DunedinEagle

        I bet your not old enough to have ever needed to actually pump breaks.

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          You’d be surprised…

      • #7

        Couldn’t have said itbbetter lol

  • anon

    TD — wow, that took 1 minute. All Vick All day!!

  • RIP illa

    Great catch Coop. Wanted you before Mac’s injury, but glad to have you if you keep catching like that!

  • RIP illa

    That was quick!

  • #7

    MV7

  • UKEagle99

    Great throw and catch. Kudos to Desean, if he carries on like this he’s in for a big payday.

  • #7

    @Token you work for the Humane Society or something? Your specific mission every game is to critique every throw Vick makes lol

    • RIP illa

      He’s already been “checked” several times!!!

      • #7

        That woman is a straight up loser

  • RIP illa

    Targeting Wolff’s zone every time!

  • Me

    Has Rivers thrown an incompletion yet?

    • Mr. Wu

      yes a couple i think

    • UKEagle99

      14 of 16

  • RIP illa

    Who was that w/ the strip

  • DunedinEagle

    They needed that bad.

  • nicksaenz1

    BOYKIN!!!!!

  • UKEagle99

    Boykin is our Honey Badger :-)

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Yes. Yes he is.

  • RIP illa

    Davis has to do something about Wolff next 1/2 ASAP!!! He’s not providing any help to any CB or LB in coverage and letting big gains go.

  • EuropeanEagle

    If we don’t have Lesean that’s a safety.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Yeah I was thinking that…

  • #7

    Nice play Boykin!

  • RIP illa

    And that’s why I don’t like Hughes. We seriously need some CB and S help.

  • RIP illa

    Trent Cole again!!!

  • nicksaenz1

    Maybe he was expecting Chip to ice him again

  • RIP illa

    Great drive!!! Good way to finish the 1/2…at least that’s what I was gonna say till Henery missed that. Oh well. We took there best shot and are still very much right there and capable of winning this game!

  • Mr. Wu

  • RIP illa

    Next 1/2…
    Gotta get Wolff to step up or get him out of there! Seriously Coleman can do no worse than the combo of Nate and Wolff.

    We have no pressure on Rivers from our D-line men and the blitz is not hitting home hardly at all. I count 2-3 plays where the blitz got pressure but no sacks. We can’t live off turnovers forever!

    O is pulling it together, Johnson needs some better pass pro and Herremans needs to step up and Vick needs to never have another drive like that horrible one he had before…but all in all just keep doing what there doing.

  • UKEagle99

    Ok, let’s see what this team is made of.

    Let’s also see what adjustments are made.

  • RIP illa

    LMFAO….Ryans just murdered they’re best WR!!! Love it

  • Mr. Wu

    hats no joke that man got Fd up

  • RIP illa

    That’s the type of D I wanna see. Not Allen being late on the help to the seam route (just like Wolff) but making SD’s WRs pay for doing it. Hope Floyd is ok in the long run, and I’m sure he will be…but love how Mecc concussed him!!!

  • UKEagle99

    I hope it’s not serious but wouldn’t it be nice if we had a safety that could hit that hard, week in, week out.

    • RIP illa

      If I was Flyod…I’d really hate Nate Allen right now!!! If Nate had played that better, Ryans would have never had the chance to get that hit.

  • DunedinEagle

    Nate Allen so still sucks

  • UKEagle99

    We need to start knocking Rivers around.

  • RIP illa

    God I hate Rivers so much!!!! We gotta start smacking him around…need Davis to disguise his blitz better.

  • Mr. Wu

    “Hello Kerry Rhoades…are you busy this week?”

  • RIP illa

    This was what I was afraid of when we face a good QB w/ our D. Let’s go O!!!

    • DunedinEagle

      That’s been going on for many secondaries.

      • RIP illa

        Don’t really care about many secondaries…only ours. And if many secondaries have been playing like this…then many DB coaches as well as D-Coords need to be fired!!!

        • DunedinEagle

          I meant Eagles secondaries.

          • RIP illa

            Lol. Fire Davis…and who’s our DB coach…just playing.

          • DunedinEagle

            I know. They should be fired for teaching them to pull on jerseys though.

    • UKEagle99

      How is King Dunlap locking down the left side? Would have been nice to see Curry in there to see what he could do as the rest of them aren’t laying many hands on Rivers.

      • RIP illa

        Cause Trent is not that good as an OLB. He plays the run very well but where’s the pass rush!!!

  • UKEagle99

    Woop, first down!

  • UKEagle99

    Winning the turnover battle and down by 7, need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

  • RIP illa

    Great play Boykin. Another bad blitz…here we go!!!

    • UKEagle99

      Its a lesson on how to form a pocket.

  • RIP illa

    Can’t stop that all game!!! It’s like sex w/ Kobe Bryant…try and stop it all you want…but it’s going to happen!!!

    • Mr. Wu

      aww man thats wrong….but so good

  • UKEagle99

    Touchdown o/

  • DunedinEagle

    I’d be happier if my FF opponetnt wasn’t starting Jackson too but hey nice play!

  • #7

    Keep proving them wrong Vick

  • RIP illa

    I really can’t understand why SD has Ben man upping DJax w/ no help all ge but please continue!!!

  • Johnny Domino

    Boykin is moving to #1 corner, let him play wherever he wants.

  • RIP illa

    Boykin has been locking down the left side this 1/2

  • RIP illa

    Awe man. Just got so excited after C-Will lit that guy up. Dammit Chung

  • RIP illa

    Sopoaga has not been holding down the middle all game. Step it up man!!!

  • UKEagle99

    I hope they feed it to Brown near the goal line so he can try one of his special passes.

    • RIP illa

      Only if Marty is his O-Coord. Takes a special kinda stupid to pull that off, and I don’t think Brown is capable of that by himself.

      • UKEagle99

        Lol, yeah. We like to throw it, even when we run it!

  • Johnny Domino

    Got to say all things being equal a tie is not so bad right.

    That and the new cheerleader garb is not unsightly.

    • UKEagle99

      Designed by Vera Wang. That’s what the label says in the piece I have in my teeth :-D

  • RIP illa

    I have a feeling that they’re gonna keep testing C-Will and he’s gonna make them pay for it. Either pick of forced fumble. Boykin has the other side on lock, so their best bet is attacking our safeties. Hopefully they step up their game like C-Will has.

  • Johnny Domino

    Get up, please get up!

  • UKEagle99

    Ouch. Chargers line picked up the stunt with ease.

    • RIP illa

      All game. Sucks so bad…just want one to hit home and either kill Rivers or lead to a TO.

  • RIP illa

    Why are our F’N safeties who can’t cover in zone in man coverage!!!

  • UKEagle99

    At last.

  • Johnny Domino

    Hungry like the Wolff

    • RIP illa

      More like Gates turned into Finley on that one.

  • RIP illa

    God that blitz wasn’t even that good and Rivers still cracked. All we need is a little pressure on dude!

  • UKEagle99

    Cox needs to keep that frustration for live play.

    • RIP illa

      He was cool until Rivers got in his face and started talking ish while tryin to jack him up!

      • UKEagle99

        I know but it is never the first guy that gets flagged.

  • RIP illa

    Ooh I wish we were in our 1/2 of the field so Cox could’ve body slammed that loud mouth B Rivers! I’d gladly take a 15 for that!

  • #7

    Cmon Eagles !!

  • RIP illa

    2 easy catches by Ertz for big yardage!!! That’s what I wanna see from the kid!

  • phillyeagle77

    Touchdown baby!!!!!!!

  • RIP illa

    Yeeeeeeeeessssssses!!!!!!!!!!

  • RIP illa

    Game shouldn’t even be going this way! Bad start on O and horrible defense and defensive play calling all game. I still don’t think the Chargers are any way near better than us!!!

    EDIT: Oh and Henery’s miss FG!!! Ugh!

  • #7

    Damn defense…… SMH.

    Game winning drive Vick. Let’s do it

  • RIP illa

    WRs had no idea what the play was…SMH

  • RIP illa

    WTF. Not that play in that situation!!! Give him something short or over the middle to work w/!

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      I agree.

  • RIP illa

    2/3…I’m so anti Henery right now!!!

  • UKEagle99

    Gimme an INT boys

  • RIP illa

    3-4 yard run ends the game

  • RIP illa

    Depressing!!!

  • #7

    Not on the offense at all.

    • UKEagle99

      Apart from the penalties, Johnson not being on the line springs to mind.

  • UKEagle99

    Too many penalties that killed drives and Henery’s miss. The D came down to earth with a bump but a very winnable game. I’m off to bet 10,000 that the Chargers win the Superbowl.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Henrey’s miss and Henery’s lousy hands in recovering a turnover.

      • UKEagle99

        Yup.

    • RIP illa

      Good teams beat teams that they’re supposed to. Our D does suck. Can’t live off of TOs (cause they’re not reliable) and a QB who’s coming off a serious injury. I put this all on Davis, who let the Chargers hold the ball for 40 f’n mins!!! I hated his hire!!! Hate his personnel decisions!!! Hate his coverage calls!!! Hate his blitz calls!!!! Hate him!!!

  • Token

    Its probably the worst D in the NFL still. At least top 3. I dont want to hear anymore about how underrated this D is. Even with 1st half struggles the offense did more than enough to win. Vick had like 800 yards in a loss, thats ridiculous.

    The D is the obvious scapegoat. But I put a bunch of blame on Chip Kelly. Why on earth was he running the fast tempo offense with 2 minutes left on SDs side of the field!?!? You run clock at that point so that you either score a TD and win, or score a FG and go to OT. Giving SD the ball back with all that time is just bad coaching. Andy Reid type of thing. The play Vick got dinged shouldnt have happened because they shouldnt have been so hurried on 1st down from about the 20. Unreal.

    Awful penalty by Desean but I dont think it was a factor. That D wasnt stopping them regardless. Plus 4 guys missed diving on the fumble.

  • KimbaFuzz

    I seriously hate Nate Allen.

    • B-West

      I wish I could give one million up votes. I request a an All 22 dedicated to whether or not Allen should be cut on Monday.

    • morgan c

      He needs to be cut now. Straight up. I mean, if you can get a seventh round pick for him, cool, but that’s doubtful at this point. He’s been given the benefit of the doubt so many times already, and he simply gets abused over and over. He is just a terrible football player. He was poor instincts, is soft, and can’t cover. He has no skills. We’d be better off with literally anyone else.

    • Justin

      Has he been cut yet? And if not, WHY?

      • Dutch

        Good ole Buddy Ryan would have asked for his helmet & cut Allen in the timeout huddle.

  • Dirt

    I hope Nate Allen does not see the field again this year. He turned what should have been a 4 yard run into a 25 yard gain with his inability to tackle and then adding a facemask. On top of that, all three touchdowns were his fault. If Wolff is as close to Allen as the coaches have said he is, then just play him, because his growing pains can’t be as bad as Allen’s incompetence.

    • RIP illa

      Dude Wolff has shown no better than Allen. We have a DB personnel problem and issues!!! Big ones, due to Davis and Roseman, and although Chip doesn’t focus on D he still is the head coach and has final say!!!

      • Dirt

        I didn’t see Wolff getting dragged 6 yards by the face today. I didn’t see Woff leaving SD’s only receiver who catches TDs wide open at the 5 today. I didn’t see Wolff hesitate on what could have been a TD saving tackle to get trucked by King F’n Dunlap today.

        Earl Wolff might not be great, that’s fine, but by now, we know for a fact that Nate Allen is terrible. Why keep giving him snaps when we could be using those plays to get Wolff up to speed?

  • skayne

    I love Chip Kelly on offense. But they have to stop rehlegating our best pass rushers to the bench.

    The problem was the pass rush, the back 7 had to cover all day long.

    B. Graham and V. Curry have to play. Logan, Square, Geathers, etc., haven’t done shit to be playing over them.

  • Myke Lowery

    terrible game by the secondary besides Boykin. I didn’t see the blitz bring much pressure. so that could have attributed to things.

  • Will

    NFL 4th best Safety still unsigned free agent, here’s the latest-
    Posted by Mike Florio on September 15, 2013, 12:22 PM EDT AP
    There had been no buzz on veteran free-agent safety Kerry Rhodes.
    Key words: “Had been.”
    Per a league source, Rhodes will work out with the Giants on Tuesday.
    Rhodes previously had been drawing no interest
    after being cut by the Cardinals in March. Some say he wants too much
    money; others say he hadn’t had the chance in recent months to reject a
    minimum-salary offer. The lack of opportunities has prompted some
    speculation that Rhodes became radioactive in the wake of the emergence
    of Internet rumors in March regarding his sexuality. (Rhodes has denied
    those rumors, strongly.)
    Regardless of the real reasons why Rhodes doesn’t currently have a
    roster spot, the Giants will take a look at Rhodes on Tuesday. If they
    like what they see, the question then becomes whether the Giants will
    offer him the minimum for his level of experience ($840,000), or
    something more than that.

    • Will

      Chip Kelly says no good FA Safety available BS……

  • Soybot

    Cowgirls and Deadskins lost, and Gina’s will certainly do do as well. It’s not over yet boys.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Voted up for “Gina’s” lol

      But yes..if the Giants lose we’re in good shape.

  • William

    We need to calm down ……we know the Eagles Defense would be the achilles heel. We also are missing a corner. But it is only game two and for me the Eagles answered a lot of question. Vick looked great,Deshaun and Cole were beast and other offensive players were stepping up. Riley even looked good . Washington lost, Cowboys lost so the Eagles will still be in first place. Defenses are always behind and I think we just have to stay in there until mid season.

    Now for the haters especially with the Big man coming. We need to give him props because he brought us Vick, Jackson, Cole and some others, so all you who are always him , he built a tradition where we expect to win. Lets give him his props on Thurs and then kick his butts.

    As for Vick , how many who have dogged him for the last two years and wanted everyone from Foles, Barkley, etc were wishing he was in there that last drive . Vick is a beast and let’s finally give him his do . Last years the line and the coaching was the problem . I am glad we have Vick ….he is a true leader …..So shut up.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Here Here!!!!

    • Will

      Didn’t have to be Great proven Safeties were available…..They went with Nate and a Rookie..please…Really…Reallly…what did u expect?

    • RIP illa

      It was a crucial game even if it’s only week two…why? Cause this is a game we should have won! You can’t let games like this slip away cause they come back and bite you. Good teams beat the teams they’re supposed to beat.

      • Mike

        The only reason this game wasn’t a blowout was the turnovers. It is great to see turnovers, but we gave up 33 points WITH those turnovers. That is terrible, and I don’t see how you can say we should have won. The Eagles defense is horrible, and the Chargers are underrated. They almost beat the Texans, who aren’t slouches.

        • RIP illa

          How bout cause we were favored…how bout cause they couldn’t stop our O…how bout cause they had to resort to slowing the game down in the 2nd quarter…how bout cause we had a missed FG that would have won us the game…how bout cause we had a dropped TD from Casey…How bout cause we had a TD called back because of Johnson…how but chase of the poor clock management approaching two mins and w/ us in the redzone…how bout cause we only need our D to play at a mediocre level instead of the S-show that it was today and only forcing 1 punt!!! Dude keep arguing w/ me on everything I say and I’ll keep shutting you down w/ actualities and facts!!!

          • morgan c

            The point is, we should have had this game. The Casey drop (after complaining about not enough playing time, terrible), the missed field goal, DJax not bringing in the 60 yard bomb, and the bogus false start costing us 4 points (settled for FG instead of TD)… that’s more than enough to win right there. And don’t even get me started on the clock management and execution inside the red-zone on the final drive. So frustrating. Yes, it’s not the end of the world, but we should have had this game. We aren’t good enough to blow games like this.

          • RIP illa

            Didn’t I just say as much :-) lol. Yes we agree.

          • TPZ-1

            2 PI’s on C. Williams, 1 PI on Chung (bogus IMO) & and a stupid unsprts’ like conduct on D-Jax which helped give SD great field position (along with the ensuing fumble which helped them further) didn’t help matters.

          • cliff henny

            it was a rough one. fact is, that offense is stupid good. vick missed d-jax of that OB throw (bet he’d admit that too) another easy 7 there, too. eagles left 20 out on field, nothing chargers did. sooner or later, we’ll see 50’s on scoreboard. if henrey or any of the 3 guys fall on that kickoff fumble, walking with a W. but, maybe this will be a defense wakeup call. cant play like that

          • RIP illa

            Ugh. I wish Djax would have laid out for that one that touched his finger tips instead of thinking run. Can’t fault him though.

          • cliff henny

            not that one, the one he caught but vick lead him OB. was the easier of the 2 i thought.

      • Dutch

        I don’t know this was a push over game, San Diego is strong where we are the weakness. Did you notice their receivers, and their route running? The kid that got hurt was balling, so much so he cleared a buck in receiving yard before half time, and Gates is a 8 time pro bowl tight end. I had forgotten they had Royal. Royal as we all know is not push over receiver. Their rushing game was suspect. But King Dunlap played the game of his life against the Eagles, our rush couldn’t disrupt Rivers and we needed to win the battle of the Line of Scrimmage, unfortunately we didn’t .

        I don’t think this was a push over game and never believed that knowing what Rivers was capable of doing, he and Gates.

        • RIP illa

          Never did I say this was a pushover game! It’s a game we should have and we’re supposed to win!

          Anybody who watched the game knows that despite all our flaws, we still should have won that game and that they’re not a better team than us. Did their D actually stop us or did we shoot ourselves in the foot?! Was their O that dominating and great or does our lack of attention to D and crappy D play overall make them Gods on the football field?! Was their time of possession due to them being unstoppable or just them milking the clock?! Has Chip mismanaged the clock during 2 games?!

          Mostly all games in this league are tough and not pushovers, but I cannot not will I say that SD is that better of a team them us!!! And the only reason why Rivers was capable of doing what he did is cause he only got hit twice!!!

          Tebow could have picked us apart w/ that sorry ass pass rush!!! Davis just sat back calling blitzes w/o disguising them. Rivers and their O-line knew when and where every blitz was coming!

          And the fact that missing Bradley F’N Fletcher throws off our coverage that bad, means we are in some dire straits!!! That defensive effort was nothing short of pathetic and 2012 like!!! Screw SD!!!

    • B-West

      Talking about how division rivals lost is real real soft. I know this is just some fan board banter, but I guarantee the coaching staff is not looking at the standings. You can’t crap the bed and then point to how dirty the rest of the sheets are.

      • William

        I am not saying it is cool because our d rivals lost but what I am saying is it is game 2 , we will get better as the season goes and our offense might be unstoppable or atleast they will be . ….I was watching Eagles. Com ….and some one said Michael Vick missed many throws , Christ he trough for 4yds…we were picked to go 8-8 at best and bottom of division , Vick should be hurt or have thrown 5 INTs by now …..I will take this lost with a grain of soft and optimism

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          Vick didn’t play this well in 2010.

          Yet I keep hearing folk complain AND complain…I mean I guess we go back to last year when he threw 3 interceptions and we won the game.

          lol/smh

        • B-West

          Perspective is a very point. I had mid range expectations going into the season, and actually felt this game was a trap. Its just still hard to watch them lose one it felt like they could have had.

    • #7

      Bout tine Ya’ll listened

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    Kelly mismanaged the clock every bit as badly as Reid ever did. Still have a bonehead game day coach.

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    We started off too slow offensively

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      It didn’t matter.

      San Diego just would have had more opportunity not to punt.

  • SeaDucks

    Great showing by the O. Any other offense in the NFL would have only had about 10 pts. The Defense though was horrendous. I think SD punted once? TOP had to favor SD like 4 to 1. At least it was a competitive game. Might be a tough year, but I don’t see many blowouts coming against us

    • evanphilly

      Agreed. This Offense will score 24+ points by accident. The D is the scary part though..

      • Dutch

        I still believe this offense can drag our defense to 9 wins. I actually think this was a quality win by an opponent that a lot of people don’t respect but it’s to their peril. As we seen Rivers is capable of hurting you.

  • The R

    Please can we please go to a 4-3 put vinny and graham in please we was getting cooked on the run and they are not even a good run team

  • The R

    Can we please sign kerry rhodes i dont care if hes gay let his gay A$$ play safety its 1000 percent better than nate he sucks

    • morgan c

      I’m not sure how his rumored sexual preference affects his football skill, or character as you alluded to, but ya…

      Anyway, Nate Allen sucks.

  • Will

    I even brought up Kerry Rhodes on Spud’s show Eagle’s have no interest…I hate Nate Allen’s play gave up at least 2 TD’s today!

  • Token

    Ill tell ya one thing. With the pathetic pass rush I saw today, its a crime if Curry doesnt at least get a chance to show some worth on Thursday. We are getting nothing out of the NTs. Bench one of them. Id say Sopa.

  • Will

    Now we know if the Front 7 can’t generate pressure this secondary gonna get scorched by a good pocket passer….So Peyton, Eli, Aaron, and Jay all good pocket passers should have good days against us…

  • morgan c

    So can we pump the brakes a bit on all the 10-6 playoff talk? I still believe Kelly will be a success, but it’s going to take time. First of all, I don’t know why we completely went away from our offense. We didn’t play nearly as quickly as we did against Washington, and we got away from the run in the second half. Second, Kelly completely mishandled our last drive. We should have let the clock go down to the 2 minute warning, instead of rushing a bad pass to Celek that got both he and Vick injured. Chip fell in love with the pass, and four straight runs from 1st and goal would have probably netted a TD instead of having to settle for a FG. Bad play calling, and worse clock management. Third, those time-outs at the end? What the hell was he doing? And finally, our defense was deplorable as expected. Billy Davis just blitzed every play, it never got home, and Rivers torched us. We never adjusted. And no Vinny Curry on a day where our pass-rush was anemic? I feel like it’s groundhog day. This will be a maddening season. But the most disappointing thing was Chip not running his normal offense. WTF?

  • Eagles4Life

    LOL some of y’all are so fickle. Week 1, “OMG Superbowl”…Week 2, “WE SUCK.” Relax. Kelly and Davis are still adjusting to the team in live action when it matters, we’ll be ok. If we had made the FG before halftime, possibly different game. Recovered that FF on the kickoff, possibly different game. If we managed that last scoring drive differently, possibly different game. It’s early in a LONG season, and we just lost on a FG in the final seconds. Breathe. Please.

    • cliff henny

      it’s not that bad. at least we knew it’s only 1 side of the ball. it’s 12 win offense, 4 win defense.

  • cliff henny

    Allen’s play made me miss Coleman. least he hits the other team, not laying out his own. not sure what Davis was seeing sending blitz after blitz, none that ever got home. was seriously dissapointed in how little pressure River’s saw. offense looked great. guess we knew coming in this was going to be an issue. Vick left some points out there again, not that anyone is perfect, but with this defense he just might have to be.

    • JofreyRice

      This is kind of how I pictured the season going down. Offense hums along, defense lets the other team’s offense hum along, a few miscues, and every week’s a tossup. Makes the games interesting at least, more than we can say for FF (Reid).

      • cliff henny

        9 months ago we had 3 problems, offense defense and special teams…today, one-defense. part of being a fan is not having to be realistic at times, like after washington. chargers just knocked some realit back into us.

  • Corry

    The defense was a disaster?! I didn’t think they looked that good.

    • A Roy

      There should be a word in front of ‘disaster.’

  • Will

    You could argue maybe Nate Allen gave up 3 TD’s if you count the play where he gets pancaked by King Dunlop….Bench Nate Allen!!!!

    • RIP illa

      It would be a very plausible and accurate argument

      • Guest

        Ok, you made me giggle. 1^

    • Token

      IMO after two games the worst player on D is Allen and the worst player on O is Herremans.

      Im curious to see if this new staff sticks with players that arent performing for the whole season.

  • Explorer51

    Two things: one, we should at least look at Kerry Rhodes… I really don’t care if he has over-priced himself (and who cares if he’s gay…totally and absolutely irrelevant), we have a ton of cap space and no, that’s no, safeties that can be relied on. As with every business, supply and demand sets the going price; there is great demand and not a lot of supply. Second, we have to buckle up and let CK make rookie mistakes whether we like it or not. Every win and loss has to provide a learning experience; if he’s as good as many (including me) think he is, he won’t make the same mistakes over and over. It will be a roller coaster season, we just need to accept that.

    Ultimately, this is a talent issue, plain and simple; if he and Eagles mgmt can get better D players and more offensive depth at WR and a QB for this system, we could be contending by 2015. Having null and void drafts in 2010 and 2011 (regardless of who was at fault) left a pretty bare roster.

  • lukeoutbelow

    The Eagles defensive line was dominated by King Dunlap and the Chargers Offensive line..as Vinny Curry sat inactive again. Their use of Vinny Curry is frustrating. BTW, I agree with KimbaFuzz..I seriously can’t stand Nate Allen. Dude is so overmatched.

  • Maggie

    Defense. Offense. Mistakes. Phhhtt. The San Diego receivers caught the ball. Rivers threw hundreds of 8-yard passes and the San Diego receivers caught them all!! THE SAN DIEGO CHARGER’S RECEIVERS CAUGHT THE BALL!!!!!!! Over and over. San Diego CAUGHT THE BALL!! A perfect dink and dunk game. Other than that, I didn’t put on my jersey this morning.
    PS. Vick was hammered twice in the 4th quarter while STANDING IN THE POCKET THROWING THE BALL. so anybody yammering about Vick running, etc. Shut up.

  • BleedGreenJames

    I think we did pretty well considering SD will be winning the Super Bowl this year.

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    As each week goes by Nate Allen seems to lose IQ points and football skills.

    • JofreyRice

      Outside of his first few games in 2010, this guy has sucked forever. I’m not sure why so many people think it’s still a matter of opinion. He’s just horrible. I’ll take Wolff any day of the week over him.

      • hillbillybirdsfan

        Agreed. He’s been lousy the whole time

  • KobraKai7474

    Considering Phillip Rivers threw for approximately 2,000 yards even though he has mediocre receivers and, quite frankly, an awful offensive line, one thing has become very apparent: The Eagles definitely need to keep inactive the one defensive lineman who has shown some ability to put pressure on the QB!! …and since sarcasm is sometimes lost in the written word, let me be clear: I AM BEING SARCASTIC!!!

    Okay, coach, you have officially lost a game that can be directly traced to your hard-headed desire to punish Vinny Curry for… well… I guess for not being born quite big enough for defensive coordinator’s tastes? Unless, you are losing on purpose, it is time to overrule your defensive coordinator, and start playing the guys who give you the best chance to win football games…. even if one happens to be 1.2 pounds lighter than you like.

    While you are at it, it is also time to start picking up two or three of the (at least) 40 safeties currently walking the streets who are better than Nate Allen, who, sad to say, simply is not an NFL player.

  • Steve

    Vick didn’t overthrow Jackson, Jackson had his shoulders turned and was looking back for the ball the entire time it was in the air, if he squares his shoulders and runs under the ball he catches it easily… it was a technique error on Jacksons part.

  • rednight07

    I know what you mean. Used to have to watch it on the comp when I lived in Tally. Hated watching the Jags games. Talk about depressing. Get an HDMI cord and hook your comp to the TV. That’s what I used to do.

  • RIP illa

    Not hating pointing out the fact that he dropped a very catchable ball. Grow up??? From the little B that spent the whole 1st 1/2 of last game complaining and hating on Vick when we were up by 20+!!!! You’re a F’n joke!

  • #7

    Touchdown Mike Vick.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    lol

  • Jason

    Agreed, Either the Chargers are forced to use timeouts or they don’t get the ball back until 30-40 seconds.

  • lib4

    Agree 100%. At that point let clock run to 2 minutes and go to 2nd and 10. Give Vick 2 solid plays to get absolutely critical touchdown since your D had been horrible all day. Rookie coach. He will learn. I hope.

  • morgan c

    One millions times yes. Absolutely stunningly stupid there. I don’t think AR would have messed it up that badly. We had 20 second on the play-clock, clock ticking at 2:12, we are in the red-zone on first down. RUN THE CLOCK TO THE TWO MINUTE WARNING!!!!!! But instead we force a bad pass, Vick and Celek get injured, and there is still 2:04 left. That was inexcusable. It was so obvious what to do and Kelly and the offense completely bungled it.

  • All In Eagles

    I agree, the way our D was playing you can’t put it on their backs to make a stop especially with SD having 2 (maybe 3?) TO’s left and 2 mins. You need to get that under the 2 min warning then roll from there.

  • nicksaenz1

    Yeah but you also the rest were nothing to worry about and that was obviously way wrong. See: Royal, Eddie.

  • Jason

    Byrd having plantar fasciitis is a big concern. Ask Will what he thinks of Rhodes

  • docboy75

    I saw that and said the same thing…he practically invited Dunlap to take him out…my 6 year old can play safety better than that schmuck…

  • Token

    The one plus on D, was the turnovers today and last week. You can be a bad defense and maybe get by if you win the turnover battle. Teams like the Saints and Pats have had good seasons with bad Ds. I mean, probably not this bad but….

  • DunedinEagle

    He threw the defense under the bus. “Maybe we should have scored 37 points” with an attitude.

  • B-West

    You know? Just watching on tv, every time he was involved in a play and they showed the replay, it seemed to be a bad play on his part. I sincerely want to know if the naked eye is correct or not.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    LOL.

    Well what do you want him to say? Maybe they should have scored 37.

  • Token

    He certainly did. Usually I might not like that kind of thing, but screw it. This team has been to PC for years. The QB should be trying to light a fire under that awful defensive unit. Play with some pride. He sees his offense out there doing all they can only to see the defense give up a demoralizing score.

  • RIP illa

    Good. Bout GD time. He’s never thrown anyone under the bus up until this point and has paid for it by being labeled the franchises biggest problem. Davis and this D sucks “Richard” they deserved it! If he’s gotta be an A-hole by telling the truth. Then I’m backing him all the way!!!

  • DunedinEagle

    Say what you want that was ignorant. Like he played the perfect game. You just don’t do that the way his petulant child ass did.

  • UKEagle99

    I tried to throw Nate Allen under the bus but he was late and missed it.

  • RIP illa

    He was in position on all the plays that came his way. He was just late and couldn’t challenge them or make any type of defense on them!!! Don’t need All-22 to see that.

  • B-West

    If you can separate the clock from the scenario, I like the throw. Everyone expects the standard backup QB handoff.

  • morgan c

    We ran zero times in the fourth quarter. Absolutely inexcusable. We had plenty of time and Kelly just fell in love with Vick throwing the ball. This is extremely concerning.

  • TPZ-1

    On the money Big Butt!!! Why in the hell would you make a cold QB throw a fade in that situation??!! If your gonna do it, why not try it with a bigger receiver than D-Jax for a jump ball opportunity?

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    That’s MILD compared to what he could have said. I mean damn…the offense did their job. The defense couldn’t force a damn punt. SMH.

  • DunedinEagle

    Did you catch the part where he said the refs hurt the team by making him come out because of the possible injury? How about stating what a capable back up Foles is? Can’t stand the guy.

  • B-West

    Late = not in position homey

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    Philip Rivers looked like Tom Brady with all the wide open underneath routes

  • B-West

    Haven’t heard/seen the presser yet, but I disagree. Give the standard answer yada yada bs, and keep team issues in house. Yes, the defense is trash, but talking about doesn’t fix shit.

  • RIP illa

    Play action to TEs work great in the redzone. Do you like the play call or throw? Cause the throw was horrible!

  • B-West

    I like the theory, I guess. Agree that the throw was bad and probably low percentage. Seems like they gave him a low risk, either the receiver gets the ball or its out of bounds, type of throw.

  • RIP illa

    Are you kidding me try watching the game homey!!! He was in the position where he was supposed to be w/ the designed defensive call. Yet he has to have the ability to make the read and a play on the ball when it’s thrown. He reacted a step slow or w/ hesitation every single time causing him to have enough coverage to make the tackle but not break up the pass or get picks, and especially on the WR seam routes!!! I.E. LATE!!!! SMH…HOMEY!!!

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    It wasn’t a big answer. He didn’t say anything bad…but the meaning was clear.

  • RIP illa

    Thank you!!! And if you’re a team leader and can’t call out ur team for bad play, whether in house or on the sidelines, where cameras are, or through pressers…what type of leader are you?! I don’t care where it is but if it needs to be said them let it be said. Same type of people got mad for Williams calling out the D…was he wrong?!

  • UKEagle99

    I didn’t take it as throwing the D under the bus, more stating the obvious. We all know the D stunk the place out tonight but the O needs to shoulder some blame. They are leaving too many points on the field, stupid penalties and miscues are killing drives. Just because you score 30 doesn’t give you a pass when you could and SHOULD have scored 40+

  • takeo

    The only TD in which he was accountable was the first one (where we blitzed 7 guys w/o pressuring rivers).
    On the 2nd one it’s not clear, but it seems he had the center field while williams had the right side (for sure Rivers had forty minutes to scan the field).
    On the 3rd one (again a missed blitz call) he had 2 blockers in front of him, I don’t know what he could have done.

    BTW, Im not his lawyer and never said we played good, only that we made plenty of bigger mistakes (including the missed FG)

  • RIP illa

    Yeah that was the only part I liked about that particular throw.

  • All In Eagles

    Agree, quite sure they asked him to try and make a great throw or have it out of bounds especially if Vick was coming back in 1 play.

  • B-West

    Seems like were splitting hairs man. Him not breaking on the ball or laying the wood to people are what drive me crazy.

  • Will

    # 11 Royal burned him twice, second one he was picked but still his guy, stop making excuses for him! Even 7 points he gave up was a factor in the loss….every week Nate is a liability other teams exploit!

  • Will

    Your brain dead and our Safeties suk!

  • Dirt

    I never said Wolff is the answer. He might not be. He might be a total bum for all we know. But, Nate Allen has continually proven he is a bum. In a season where we probably won’t legitimately contend for the playoffs or super bowl, isn’t this the time to find out what you have in Wolff instead of continually proving that Nate Allen is not a good football player?

  • RIP illa

    That’s the same thing that was said for the reason to start Foles over Vick… So my answer is no. If we actually would have invested in a real honest to life safety in the earlier rounds of the draft or through FA then I’d say yes. But Wolff, unless he shows better and less Allen like in the reps he does get…no. Rather would see Coleman go in. Was actually calling for him today.

  • Luke Ivan

    Don’t consider this to be excusable. He is not a “rookie” coach. He has been coaching football for how long? Bad clock management. Period.

  • UKEagle99

    Man I can’t believe Chip didn’t give Vick the 2 plays that result in a touchdown, what a rookie :-P

  • Jason

    I respectively disagree. This is Defense, the scheme changes week to week. If we were trying to sign an Offensive player then maybe 3-4 weeks. But just look at what Mikell did for Carolina.

  • anon

    B Davis was his Coordinator in Arizona…hes probably not too unfamiliar

  • B-West

    Very different scenarios in my opinion. 57 minutes of game time proved that they were doing whatever they wanted offensively and very little of what they wanted defensively. Slowing it down was well worth any risk at that point. The defense giving up points was a given. Growing pains…. Chip will learn to control those spots with his incredible offense.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    They were really stuffing the run. And with the way the D was playing I don’t think you want to risk a three and out or a 3rd and long situation.

    If it ain’t broken ain’t no need to fix it.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Sorry…they get 40 if they play a perfect game. They win the game if the D makes more than 3 stops – 1 punt and 2 turnovers.

    I’m sure the O is going to work on eliminating their mistakes…but you’re also assuming that had we scored 40 that San Diego wouldn’t have scored 43 ’cause the kind of game it was.

  • UKEagle99

    If they play a perfect game they get 70 points off their 10 drives, lets not count the last one with 7 seconds remaining.

    I guess we are arguing semantics, they win as a team and they lose as a team. Any unit doing one or the other and it is a W rather than a L.

    My point is, I hold the offence and special teams to a higher standard than I do the defence. The O had a much higher talent level to begin with and then got the lions share of the top picks in the draft. ST appears to be keeping one of our best rushers riding the bench (we don’t know the real reason). With hindsight I’m sure they would have liked to throw Curry in there to see if he could get some pressure but yet again inactive.

    When CK came in here he preached, don’t turn the ball over and don’t commit dumb penalties. Turnovers are much improved over last year but I see far too many penalties on offence that halt drives. That coupled with dropped passes and other errors and we are leaving too many points on the field. If they score 7 on all the drives that were going somewhere then that puts a lot of pressure on the opponents O to keep up. Lets not forget that early in the game the D had got the ball back twice and we were still losing the game, that is on the O.

  • UKEagle99

    Howie, are you reading? Sign the 6 year old! Better and cheaper, win, win!!

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Can lane Johnson’s baby play safety?

  • UKEagle99

    Maybe but with those hands he could definitely recover a fumble on a kickoff.

  • Dutch

    it’s a simple fact that chip has two speeds, Fast and Faster. We seen the slow down or some version of it last week.

    Not defending him, or justifying his preferences. But it’s quite obvious slowing down and clock burning is new in his chain of thinking, and in my opinion this is where he should willingly take lessons from Shumumur on closing out games and situations that develop in the last 4 minutes.

    This is going to be an exciting experience but not minus adversity.

    This was a good win and an invaluable learning experience.

  • anon

    He’s just not used to being in close games.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    They do need a four minute offense.

    But you also need to score when you can score.

    He’s gotta learn to balance those two trains of thought.

    Or get a better defense.

  • morgan c

    They ran the ball twice in the second half. Both times, they got 4 yards. Vick also ran once for 8 yards. Here is a link to the ESPN play by play to prove it: http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=330915021&period=0

    Overall, Shady averaged 4.8 ypc (11 carries, 56 yards). I’m unclear as to how running the ball for 5 yards on first down would make a three and out more likely. I’m also very unclear as to how that is constitutes “stuffing the run.”

    Care to explain?

  • Token

    Yea I mean typically maybe id agree and I see where you are coming from. But I liked it today. Maybe im just tired of 10+ years of hearing we need to do a better job after losses.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    They were loading the box. Which is what I meant by stuffing the run. You can try and run against that…or you can take the wide open receivers. The bulk of Shady’s yardage came on a couple of runs if I remember correctly. Another time they ran 2/3 times in a row and got nowhere. It just wasn’t smart to keep running it when there were better options.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    LOL.

    Baby’s hands are bigger than mine and I’m a grown woman.