3 Homes That Sold in Less Than a Week: Old City, Cobbs Creek, BV

It’s every seller’s dream: to put a property on the market and get an offer in less than a week. That’s what happened in the three cases below.

1. Address: 315 New Street, #712




The Overview: This apartment was advertised as “the lowest-priced two-bedroom condo in Old City.” That’s a terrific selling point, as is the parking, doorman and separate storage space the pet-friendly Bridgeview building offers. This 950-square-foot unit has two full bathrooms, exposed brick and high ceilings. Another canny listings touch–a note about sweat equity: “Unit 412 (with the same floor plan but three floors lower) sold in February for $284,000.”
What made it sell?: Old City has low inventory, the listings copy was terrific, and it was a legitimately good deal in a great neighborhood with a WalkScore of 94. Even those unappealing photos didn’t hurt.
Listed for: $225,000

2. Address750 S 57th Street




The Overview: The fact that this three-bedroom sold so quickly is fairly astounding given that living near Cobbs Creek Park isn’t exactly like being a few blocks from Rittenhouse Square. Nonetheless, the listings poetry triumphs again with some serious turns of phrase–literally–making note of the “turned staircase” and saying, “this house has everything on your list of must-haves.” Thing is, that’s pretty much true, from the beautiful original hardwood floors and newly renovated kitchen to the front garden and rear yard. It doesn’t hurt that the home has new plumbing, electrical, heaters and roofing. That’s a sigh of relief right there.
What made it sell?: Bang for the buck. How common is it to be able to buy what’s mostly a turnkey house for less than $100,000? And while it’s on 57th Street, it’s pretty close to Baltimore, so you know it’s just a matter of time before Penn’s gentrifying influence makes its way out there, improving the investment. After all, those tentacles are just seven blocks away…
Listed for: $99,000

3. Address: 725 Pemberton Street, #10
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The Overview: This 854-square-foot two-bedroom unit in Bella Vista has something you won’t find too often in this neighborhood: two working wood-burning fireplaces, one in the living room, one in the bedroom. It’s also got a walk-in closet with a clothing trolley and a good view, from the unit’s deck, of the action (such as it is) in lovely Cianfrani Park. Otherwise, it’s perfect for privacy, set all the way back on a tiny street anchored by a shared courtyard.
Why did it sell?: Bella Vista also has an inventory shortage. This house may be small, but the floors are beautiful and it’s obviously well-maintained. The location is superb, and the mix of privacy and access to a lively scene is extremely appealing. To be precise, this unit didn’t sell in less than a week, but it did get an offer that fast. We see this happen in Bella Vista all the time.
Sold for: $285,000

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  • JofreyRice

    I thought Wolff made a few plays. Looked more like a SS than a FS, but its a start.

    Everette Brown looks like he has some speed and flexibility from the edge. If they keep 5 OLBs, he’d be the 5th.

  • Media Mike

    I saw a lot of Watkins blocking his man with east last night. The breakdowns were all on poor blitz pickups and/or the left side of the line playing like garbage. People, with good cause, rip the play of Watkins as an Eagle so far. I want to see him coached by Stoutland for a full year (and a 2nd off-season) before I cut him for the likes of any of the other backups we might keep in his place. Don’t forget how poor Herremans has looked so far. If he’s cooked, you might be needing a RG sooner rather than later.

  • Will

    yup, think you nailed it to a man…

  • RickyBobby

    Barkley looked terrible last night against the 3rd stringers. I can’t comprehend how this guy was projected to be a 1 round QB a few years ago.

    Chip looked exhausted after the game and rightfully so. 5 points at 1/2 time?

    Nick Foles does not look ready at all. This team is a mess! Pretty hard to stay positive and I get it’s preseason and no one is showing their cards and this is a new coach, new team…but i’m anticipating turnovers and mistakes..4-12 again.

  • Hasan Currie

    Trading Cole or Graham is not going to get you anything right now that is going to make an immediate impact. Not even a high draft pick! They have more value to the Eagles as pass rushers.

  • Chris

    I’m with this selection 100%, although i’d like to see a spot for Bamiro but I can’t see 10 OL so I think Watkins’ salary and experience (unfortunately) pushes him over the top. I also agree on the 6 WR, I can’t see giving anyone else at any position a spot over Salas or Shepard when they can contribute to ST. Would love to see them grab a safety and jettison Coleman after cutdowns.

  • 1972

    Where the clay harbor fan that put up that lame ass youtube video of him catching a meaningless td vs the vikes 2 yrs ago??? I told u the guy stinks!!! Dropped two more passes last night.
    If he stays an eagle he’ll drop one when it counts. Watch!!!

  • Alex Lanigan

    Vick is the better QB for this year. Foles has a problem with fumbling, but all in all is a solid Quarterback. We have a few yeas before we can challenge for the Superbowl, so lets allow Kelly time to develop “his” roster and get rid of the deadweight from the Reid era.
    The defence is still miles away from where it needs to be, but is showing signs of improvement.

  • Matt Hoover

    Graham should be treated, Brown has earned the spot.

  • defroe81

    omg if we dont keep curry then we are just dumb… also feel the same way about harbour.

  • Rick H

    Sheil, there seems to be a general consensus about the roster from most beat writers. It is identical to your projections. I agree generally with your insight but I disagree about the following players. Bamiro should definitely be a practice squad guy and if the Eagles lose him I wouldn’t lose any slept overt it. Coleman is a hustler but there is someone out there better then him so I say let him go. A couple of those Oline guys are suspect too such as Tobin & Vandervelde but I realize that presently in the NFL decent Oline guys are extremely hard to find. I also feel Everette Brown should be on this roster. Geathers does nothing at all for me and they should let him go. Most importantly I am completely confused by the “perceived shaky roster status of Vinny Curry”. The kid has been outstanding & the best Dline guy without question.
    BIGGEST WORRY: Brad Davis as the Defensive Coordinator because this defense looks just as confused as last year. Man do I miss the GREAT LATE JIMMY JOHNSON!!! He was one of the very best! Rest in peace Jim!

  • #7

    He’s not where you say he is yet but I get your point. Nice debate

  • Tim Tebow

    I get cutting Harbor because he just can’t catch the ball.

    • Media Mike

      All of our TEs make horrible drops. I cannot stand it.

  • #7

    Matt Barkley should be on the practice squad and Dixon should be the 3rd QB. Barkley sucks and that arm is weak

    • Token

      If Matt Barkleys name wasnt Matt Barkley he wouldnt have made the roster. He just doesnt have a NFL arm.

      • #7

        I’m still confused as to why they drafted him.

        • Rick H

          You are just confused and in need of personal help! Vick would start in front of Brady for the Patriots if you were a New England fan. Seriously you do not have clue!

        • Johnny Domino

          Because Mark Barkley wasn’t available.

      • Joe Jones

        I just hope we are able to flip him to some sucker(Oakland or Jax, whichever one gets Clowney but still needs a QB) before he gets exposed.

  • Adam

    Shephard belongs on the PS this year. He has the talent, just needs to refine his game. It’s the best case for him this year.

    • UKEagle99

      If he makes it that far. Let’s not forget that the guy that the pats hired to replace Wes Welker once lived on our PS.

      • CJ

        And their starting corner. Sickens me still. We could use both like now. …and last year. And the year before that. And yeah you get the point. Can’t afford another oops, but McCoy, bamiro, and shep are tough to let go. Bamiro should be safe with the contract we gave him. I just hope we don’t regret those other 2 like Brock, amendola, and Arrington in years past. Among others.

        • CJ

          Also would love to see an article on some guys out there that we could target. We’re due to hit on some of those guys instead of cutting them in order to keep the Reno Mayes and Greg Lewis’s around.

    • theycallmerob

      I think the exact same thing can be said for Bamiro. Beyond those two, I’m ok with how this turned out.

  • Flip

    Fire Kelly

    • Adam

      Fire Lurie

      • Johnny Domino

        Fire Roasted Peppers

        • UKEagle99

          Only Donald Trump gets to do the whole “you’re fired” thing. Taxi for Casey Matthews! I’m paying!

        • theycallmerob

          There’s a fire?!?! Great, right after we cut Watkins.

  • rocketscientist

    I dont get this backlash at players that are from Oregon. CK knows who they are, and what they give him. The other players, do not. In his first year he has 20 new players, Id say taking the safe bet a few times on a guy you know, is better than taking a risk on someone who you have only seen for 3 months.

    • UKEagle99

      Yes but the problem is he only went 46-7 with those players. We need winners! Oh….

      • GiveMeABreak

        True. But he went 3-8 in games decided by less than 10 points. Not a great stat in a league where almost all of the games are close. Still, we need to wait and see. It is a bit disappointing to see us stick with a guy like Matthews whose play over several years has left no room for dispute that he is marginal at best. If he can stick on our roster, it’s just not a good thing.

        • Jason

          How was he 46-7 overall but somehow was 3-8 in games decided by less than 10 points? I think someone needs a math refresher

    • Myke Lowery

      because everyone remembers how many Florida guys signed with Washington the first year Spurrier was there… and how well that worked

      • rocketscientist

        Yes, Spurrier = CK. Please tell me more. Please, a special teamer in Mathews and a barley on the roster special teamer WR in Meahl. Give me a freakin break.

        • Myke Lowery

          no need to tell you more. backlash is from people who think that way. never said that was my thinking. just getting you understand the ” backlash” that you were confused about

  • Anon

    Winfield retired. Damn. One viable DB out there.

  • Anon

    I’ll be interest to see what DBs they bring in, there’s really nothing left on the market. Glad nothing’s really changed on defense. We’ll see how it looks when we play Peyton.

    • Media Mike

      I can point out 5 or 6 screen names of people on here I’d list as “DBs” on the comment roster.

      • Jack Waggoner

        took me a sec

        • Media Mike

          Ha ha, I kid! We all have our best battle buddies on here, but in the end we all want to see the Eagles have a parade. We just all fight about the best path to take to do it.

  • KobraKai7474

    This bears mentioning again (and again). The players at the bottom of EVERY NFL roster are selected (or cut) based on what they bring to the table on special teams. For now, Igwenagu and Maehl represent better special teams options than Harbor, Salas or any of the other final cuts. Over the next few days, there will be more shuffling if Chip Kelly sees a better special teams player getting cut elsewhere.

    • Media Mike

      Bears. Ditka. Polish sausage. Bears.
      Now that bears mentioning.
      I agree with you on the SPEC Teams aspect of rounding out a roster. That is why they kept Matthews as well.

  • Nancy

    It’s gonna be a loooong season…and I don’t mean that we’ll be in the playoffs.

  • Engwrite

    I too like versatility but most jack of all trades cannot excel at any. I find it interesting that 4 of the Eagles released found a way into someone else’s roster, a most peculiar development for a team short of talent. I understand Harbor (dropped passes) and Shepard (Undrafted, no position) being released. But I watched McCoy and Mathews in the last game and McCoy and there was no comparison. And if it is all about STs, then Robinson may have been the best one to keep. At least Denver thought so and they are a top team.

    • ICDogg

      Versatility – jack of all trades – is what is wanted for backups, not starters. When you’re selecting which JAG to keep on the bottom of the roster, it factors in.

      • Jernst

        Not completely true. In a sport where injuries are so commonplace, you do need to consider who could be an effective starter for a stretch of the season. Debating the 5th and 6th WRs is one thing. But when you only have one player who’s ever been a 3-4 OLB and two others that are making a questionable at best transition to the role, I’d like more in terms of starting capable depth behind them than, Casey Matthews, who sucks at ILB, could always move outside and play out of position too. Let’s hope and pray nothing happens to Connor Barwin this year or we’re F’d.

        In fact, I anticipate that if Barwin were to go down, we’d transition back to a 4-3. I see no reason to continue with a 3-4 with Cole and Graham as your OLBs. Either that, or they plan on picking up some unnamed 3-4 OLB in the coming weeks.

        • ICDogg

          I don’t think we’ll be transitioning back to a 4-3 (other than the 4-3 Under which is pretty much the same as a 3-4 Under) under any circumstances.

          I do think we will be picking up some “unnamed” guys at positions where we need them over the course of the season. This roster shuffling is going to continue all year. Just because someone is on the team today doesn’t mean he’ll be here long.

          That mandate now is that if you’re a backup you don’t get to just wait around for someone to get hurt… you have to be ready to do things.

          • Jernst

            I agree, I don’t see us moving back to the 4-3, but under the example given above where Barwin is out and Graham and Cole are the only OLBs on the roster, I feel like you’d be hard pressed to not play more 4-3 fronts. Graham, Cole, Cox, Curry are all ideally situated in the 4-3, and Thornton could easily play in a 4-3 as well. You’d essentially be forcing them into a 3-4 for what purpose? To get Sopoaga and Matthews on the field? Just seems like a poor use of resources.

            Matthews might be a better special teamer, but I didn’t get the impression that the drop off from Matthews to McCoy on special teams alone, would be a huge blow to the teams goals this year. Especially when Knott and Acho have made it as back up ILBs and special teams contributors. Why have a 3rd backup ILB who could, possibly, move outside if there was an injury, but, really isn’t a good option to do that, over having someone that is a true OLB? I trust in the Eagles front office and Coach Kelly to know a whole lot more about football than I do. But, that doesn’t mean that they don’t make mistakes, and this is a decision that has left me scratching my head. The lack of a viable option if Barwin gets injured is a huge concern going into this season.

    • poetx99

      the difference is in the overall roster. other teams where the cupboard is not as depleted in multiple spots can afford to have a guy who is ‘just’ depth. also, our quality of youth has to be addressed.

      if matthews is playing really solidly on STs (which are being heavily emphasized), i can see him being kept over a guy who is better on defense, maybe.

      (someone on bgn mentioned that maybe they think casey can play ILB, ST, AND OLB… so if the team sees it as

      matthews: ILB + , OLB + , ST ++

      and

      acho: ILB +.5 , OLB – , ST +
      mccoy: OLB ++ , ILB – , ST +.5

      matthews’ value would end up being a 4 (out of 9), and acho would be a 1.5 and mccoy would be a 2.5, even though, viewed purely by their primary spots, mccoy’s a 2/3 versus matthews 1/3 and acho’s 1.5/3

      that’s pure supposition, but if you’re averaging the players’ value across multiple spots, that could change who you should pick.

      a team who isn’t building a 3-4 def from scratch and whose LBs haven’t been ass, as a unit, over the last couple of years, would have a different valuation.

      its similar to the situation watkins was in at OG. he could ONLY play guard. and he wasn’t the starter. even if he was marginally better than, say, tobin or vandervelde as a G, we don’t have the luxury for that. so you keep a barbre, and tobin who can cover OT or OG, and a vandervelde, who can fill in at C or OG.

      that seems to be a better explanation for why they kept the guys they kept and cut the guys they cut.

  • Johnny Domino

    There are a lot of examples out there where one team’s 6th best guy is better than your 4th best at a position.

    That is the grist for the mill.

    • ICDogg

      Fourth best… sixth best… we’re talking about very replaceable guys. There aren’t that many players on the Eagles that are real difference makers. Those that are weren’t on the bubble this weekend. There’s a chance that one of these guys turns into a player – like Evan Mathis did, for example, after kicking around the league for awhile – but in 90+% of cases, it’s just a bunch of guys who are just not going to turn out to be important no matter which of them we kept or let go.

      • Adam

        Didn’t you hear? Mathis got cut.

        • ICDogg

          Brilliant of the AC Press to choose that photo.

          • Will

            No game photo’s of Watkins in two years says a lot …lol….

  • Bob A

    I disagree with McLane. If I’m a coach and I need you to rush the passer and play special teams, and you can only rush the passer , you are of less value to me than the guy that can do both. So if he kept Matthews over McCoy, he probably felt that he DID keep the best player.

  • reb

    Peter King’s statement is ridiculous; it’s just ex-post rationalizing with not actual knowledge to it. “No love of the game” has only come up since he got cut. If it were true, it would have shown up long ago. There are so many “sure thing” college draftees that just can’t handle the NFL that trying to find a “reason” now is ridiculous; he just couldn’t cut it at the next level.

    • BlindChow

      It’ll be interesting to see if Watkins finds that edge again with his next team, now that he’s seen how his time in Philly has been represented…

      • BrickSquadMonopoly

        I find it hard to believe that bringing back the “nasty” is going to improve his soft skillset.

    • poetx99

      yeah. that does feel like piling on. i’m the exact opposite of a fan of watkins as a player, but all this after the fact questioning of his heart and motivation seems kinda unfair.

      otoh, i’m glad he was cut. makes absolutely no sense to be paying first round (even bottom of the first round) money for a guy who can’t even show that he’s demonstrably better than journeymen and UDFAs.

      that’s also why other teams were like, ‘foh’, when the eagles came calling and pitching trade deals for him. that would be the dumbest trade in the world.

      now that he’s likely gonna be on a min contract w/ miami, he can compete (or not) without that 1st round designation hanging around his neck.

  • Will

    Is Kerry Rhodes still unsigned? Probably best option at Safety at this point if healthy and available….6’3” 212 lbs. 31 years old…proven play maker Howie …this late should be able to get a reasonable price tag…

    • Wilbert M.

      No one seems to want Rhodes on their team. It’s not fair, but life as we know it.

  • Eric

    I agree with the decision to keep Maehl over Shepherd and Salas. Why Because Maehl can be a Danny Amendola type weapon in this offense. There stats are similar Amendola wasn’t drafted and ran a 4.58 40 ditto Maehl who ran a 4.62 40. Maehl is extremly quick and an excellent route runner he set record for fastest time at combine for 3 cone drill 6.42. He’s also a good special teams player and played some defense in college before being moved to WR. I don’t understand the fascination with Shepherd he had 3 catches all preseason Maehl had 8 catches for 61 yards in the one game he played in he clearly beat out Shepherd.

    • ACViking

      Eric, I agree with you.

      But Maehl’s behind both Avant and Demaris Johnson as a slot receiver. And, given his long speed and size, he’s not a particularly attractive long-term answer if Maclin’s let go.

      Plus, the consensus among the local literati — including the hosts of this site — is that, based on Roseman’s comments on cutdown day, Maehl’s stay in Philadephia may be short.

      • Wilbert M.

        Here’s one problem with keeping Maehl over Shepard – If Jaccpot goes down or quits to pursue his rap career (haha), we have the slowest receiving corp in the NFL and no deep threat.

    • Dutch

      This Maehl kid has not had a catch in a football game since 2011, what stats are you talking about he has that are similar to Amendola’s? Running routes through Pac 10 defense is not the same as running routes through NFL Zones and Man coverage. Also where had you seen his contributions on Special Teams or is this strictly hearsay?

  • jd

    Colts rookie/total maniac/duck – Boyett. should be released tomorrow after his arrest.. – i will take a bizerk free safety;P

  • Bird of Prey

    Does Tommy Lawlor know Boykin’s size? Yes I agree with the assessment that Roseman’s “keep the best player” seems to be out the window, but is it Kelly or Roseman who has final say on the 53 man roster? Kelly does according to his contract….. That said, they are rebuilding and the starters on the secondary are not very good so having a lot of borderline guys to play with until somebody sticks is not a bad idea.

  • Maggie

    Perhaps you keep missing the pieces about how MOST OF THE SCOUTING STAFF, INCLUDING THE PERSONNEL DIRECTOR, HAVE BEEN REPLACED????? Think before you rant!

  • Maggie

    Or maybe #13 running back a kick for a touchdown?

  • Maggie

    Sometimes there is a one-year anomaly, though. And don’t think there won’t be some dipstick safety who will go after RGIII’s knee.

  • hawaiieaglefan

    What we saw tonight us not the true offense that will be run during the regular season. Im more worried about the defense. The offense will generate a lot of points. But will our defense give up just as much? I miss Jim Johnson……….

  • Adam

    I feel like a change of scenery would be best for both parties. I think Coleman has a chance to catch on elsewhere, but the stigma of his bad play will never leave here in Philly. Sad because it’s not really his fault, he was pushed into a starting role because of poor drafting when he was never really starting caliber. I also feel like the Eagles should do him a solid and let him go somewhere else. He’ll be on a team in no time.

  • knighn

    I watch the games. I certainly can see that Mike Vick’s not white, although you seem to want him to be, for some reason.

    I’m also quite aware that it’s a team game, something that die-hard Vick fans ignore when you point to Foles record from last year. (Foles 2012 production per game was equal to Vick’s, but there were more wins under Vick than Foles. That’s all Vick, right?).

    It is the fact that it is a team game, which is why I wanted to see Foles, not Vick. This TEAM is not good enough to truly compete, with or without Vick. Of course Vick is the better QB right now. The man has over 100 starts in his career, much better mobility and a stronger throw. I also believe strongly that Vick is on the downside of his career and will be done in the NFL by the end of the 2016 season (if not sooner). Foles, if he has any upside, has to play to show it. We sacrifice the future for more wins with Vick now.

  • EaglePete

    ya, cant disagree there but there really werent that many “Foles is the man” posters here. Maybe a handful. Many more “go in a new direction” anything but Vick people. He might still play at some point this season but at this point Idont think you can deny that hes probably not the future. The one thing I could never disagree with from the Vick backers was the play to win now because you really have to. Kelly needs to prove his system can work first, then rebuild with his guys and Vick lets him do that to an extent, or we shall see, remains to be seen. I dont take too much from preseason games and that includes when everyone bashed Vick for that last game and now everyone bashing Foles for this game. Gotta wait til the real games are played. Not much longer, enjoy the holiday wkend and then Thursday, get chur popcorn ready !!

  • knighn

    Never bought that Kolb was the franchise QB of the Eagles. Just could see that Reid + McNabb was never going to get it done. Thought Reid should have gone with McNabb. Kolb helped get Reid gone. “Thanks, Kevin! Get well soon!”

  • Dutch

    It doesn’t help to compare Foles to Vick’s worse season as a professional. I didn’t wish to see the kid crash and burn like he did last night, but the same excuses with the support around Foles was not a legitimate excuse for Vick in 2012 and 2011, so why should it be offered up now for Foles?

    The kid just is not ready and that’s not to say with another year of mechanic work where he will not have to think about his set up but it becomes natural he can then mature into something serviceable.

    What was on display against the Jets is exactly what I witnessed last season in the games Foles appeared. I thought it a bad idea to play the kid last night for one reason above others is that last night hurt any potential trade offers for Foles that would have benefited the Eagles.

    This is worse than the Kolb campaign, and we were able to at least entice a quality pick in exchange for Kolb. We will not entice much of anything for Foles. It’s absolutely delusional to think a team like the Bills who are desperate for QB help now would be willing to listen to any request for Foles.

    God help the Eagles if Vick goes down and we put the ball in Foles hands.

  • aub32

    How are we sacrificing the future. Did we trade Foles? No. He’s still here, and if I am not mistaken, he can still learn and practice. The notion that playing games makes a QB better is ridiculous. Some QBs ruin their careers by starting too soon, and what makes Foles so great that he should start over someone who you even admit is better. That’s not how football works. Remember a couple years back when the Titans took Locker in the first. He didn’t start. The put out Hasselbeck while Locker waited. On the other hand, the Jets handed the job to Sanchez without any competition. Look at him now. What kind of message does it send to Foles that he can be outplayed in every category and still be given the job. Foles wants to start. Foles knows he needs to improve to earn the job. Handing the job to him would only stunt his growth as a player and hurt relations in the locker room with the guys that don’t have 5 years left.

  • Dutch

    What’s not known in what Foles offers a team after last season and this preseason?

    1. A Zero and 16 record and the first pick in next year’s draft.

  • Dutch

    Problem is that in that showing last night, it’s doubtful anyone is willing to part even with a 3rd round pick, which Foles was, in exchange for Foles. The game last night was a disaster in that any value for Foles in a trade was diluted. And, should Vick get hurt and Foles has to sub in again he’s only going to devalue his stock even more.

    The best Foles is going to look is in 7 on 7s, or a defense that doesn’t send extra pressure and that’s not happening much in the NFL.

  • Always Hopeful

    I guess that’s what you *HAVE TO* do in the TV/radio world. I stopped trusting Sal a few years ago…Jaws is joining Sal.

  • Dutch

    I watched this Clowney kid last night. He would not make it here in Phila under this coach. The defensive solutions the Eagles seek is not in South Carolina, and definitely not with Clowney. He comes off as a one trick pony in my opinion and only plays and contributes on occasions. He needs a ton of work from the neck up before he comes into this league and becomes a significant factor.

  • sdk152

    Hey Leegles, sorry, should have clarified there. Tommy’s site, but Sam handles that annual practice squad post. -SK

  • Rick H

    I could not agree more! He has been the best defensive linemen by far.

  • Token

    dont tell me you bought the whole “best players play” bull that Kelly said.

  • Adam

    A coach doesn’t inherit a talented roster from a fired coach of a 4-12 team. You can’t fix a roster in one off-season. If you’re this impatience, I feel sorry for you. It’s going to be a long few years for you as an Eagles fan.

  • Rick H

    am not impatient since I am going on 51 years as a fan. I am stating fact. There are much deeper reasons then being left with a poor roster. Lurie! Don’t let the numbers fool you. They are so far under the cap and have been all year and long before that. Better players were available and I mean much better players! Aren’t they $30 million under?

  • Anon

    Not if you’re a Vick hater.

  • #7

    Yeah we have a ton of them….

  • knighn

    Read me more carefully:

    My preference was they let Vick go and bring in other competiton for Foles. I believe my explanation for this is clear and succinct: the Eagles are sacrificing their future for a couple (a few?) extra wins with Vick this season. Once they kept Vick there was no choice but to have a competition. Once Vick won there was no choice but to play him. That still doesn’t change my initial preference: the Eagles should have let Vick walk.

    Unless Vick takes the Eagles to the playoffs, any wins that Vick gets will only serve to move the Eagles back in the 2014 draft. The Eagles don’t need to be at #1… but the further up they are the better chance they have at one of the top QBs in the draft.

    Hell, they kept him so I hope it works out and the Eagles make the playoffs. I especially hope that they can win a game if they make the playoffs. Yes, the Eagles should move the ball and put up a lot of points. Still: I have little faith that Vick and this offense will stop turning the ball over. And I have less faith that this defense will be able to stop anyone. The Eagles defense just set the franchise worst record for points in 2012. I challenge you to show me significnant improvements that this team has made to the defense. In fact, the change in scheme may actually make them worse!

    Realistically, I see the Eagles somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7 and out of the playoffs. When you’re sitting there watching the 2014 draft, you’ll think to yourself, “Was that 8-8 record really worth watching Vick on the downside of his career? Shouldn’t we have sacrificed some of those meaningless wins so we could have figured out if we have anything with Foles? Damn: I hope the Eagles can move up and get one of those awesome QBs. Damn: and we need defensive help too. I wish the Eagles had higher draft picks.” Of course, I would rather the Eagles win A LOT, but that’s not what I see happening with this team.

  • #7

    Well knighn, I think that I read you perfectly fine sir, but apparently Chip and the FO do not share your thoughts. Looks to me that they want to win now. And how are you so sure of what’s going to happen this year? The way that you hype up Foles you make it seem that we do not need a QB and we should put our future on Foles, then you’ll flip flop and say that VIck is better. Maybe that is why you told me that I needed to “read you more carefully” You have me confused…Foles shoud start..Vick is better…

    We don’t know where you’re going half the time.

    Our division does not look strong. Would you agree on that at least? And you’re absolutely right about the TO’s. If we keep those down, we have a chance. Have you seen how bad the Giants looked this preseason? Cowboys choke every year and you have the Skins QB with a 30 year old knee with an old ass defense…with worse corners than us.

    Why not us knighn? Why not believe in your/our team?

    You asked me about the defense. The improvement that I see is in the front 7. Getting pressure and hits on the QB is major in this league and not many teams can do it. Yes, our DBs and S’s leave something to be desired, but they are better than we had last year and at least we know they will not quit. They quit on defense last year.

    Not this year.

    You haven’t seen me say any predictions except that we can compete and that all you really want in any sport. If Vick produces like I believe he can, hopefully he can start for us a couple more years while a REAL QB is groomed.

    You say that Vick is on the downside of his career. I’ve never seen a QB that can pass and run like Vick can while being on the “downside” as you call it. When McNabb left for WSH, THAT’S what the downside of a career looks like. Vick can still play. We can agree to disagree. I like the debate. Just kind of funny that you think so highly of Foles yet admit that he’s not that good.

    Confusing

  • knighn

    I believe in numbers much more than I believe in blind optimism or Fairy Tales.

    Do you know the modern statistical history of teams with 4 or fewer wins? In the next season, they have much worse odds than any other team in the NFL of:
    - Making the playoffs
    - Getting a playoff win

    And the odds of these teams of winning two playoff games is basically 0. It hasn’t happened in this Century. It’s not exactly a small sample size, either. Teams have had 4 or fewer wins over 50 times since 2001.
    Sure, there are worst-to-first turnarounds, but they are far more common when the worst is NOT a 4-win or worse team. Oh, and the 4-win or worse teams are much more likely to succeed if they are in a division with another 4-win or worse team. That’s not the Eagles division.
    If that wasn’t enough, I’m also looking at a Defense that was historically bad last year and may have been made worse this year. The Eagles dropped former pro-bowl CBs who couldn’t tackle for CBs who look like that they can’t cover (but they can tackle, yay!). The Safety situation is not significantly improved. Trent Cole, already bad last year, is now in a weaker position for him. Brandon Graham, who just started to come on last year, is also moved to a position where he’ll struggle. The Eagles dropped experienced veterans in Mike Patterson, Cullen Jenkins and Jason Babin. Between Babin and Jenkins, that’s a lot of experience and a lot of sacks that the Eagles gave up. We might not like Babin, but I don’t see how the Eagles are actually replacing his production, or Jenkins.

    So: yes, this team doesn’t look like it can win, even if Vick and the offense play at their highest possible level, which is also another big IF. So, what exactly do the Eagles gain out of playing Vick for one more year on the downside of his career?

  • #7

    Tell me one thing about Vick physically that he’s in decline. And no, he does not runa 4.2 anymore. That does not mean decline when he beats our all pro RB in the 40.

    Decline in football terms means that the body physically cannot do what it could at a high level. All the great players still have it mentally when they retire. I hope you understand what I’m saying.

    Please answer

  • knighn

    I conceded that Vick is slightly better than Foles at this point in their respective careers.

    I don’t understand your argument though: are you honestly saying that Vick can’t be as good of a passer as everyone else because he runs around more?

    Someone better tell that to Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick and RGIII. These young, highly mobile QBs all had passer ratings above 98 last season.

    This is another one of your bogus arguments, Dutch. Are you going to also deduct points from Vick for his running fumbles and his injuries while running?

  • Johnny Domino

    Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    Agreed. Was Maehl that big of a special teams upgrade?

  • Token

    Its simple.

    Maehl went to Oregon.

  • Adam

    Two words: Special teams. You’ve seen how Chip stresses the importance of the unit and we’ve begun to see the results. The roster cuts reflect this importance too. How do you get Shephard on the field when you’ve got DJ1 and 2 who already bring everything he brings to the table, but they do it better? The 5th receiver isn’t going to see many balls, especially considering how much we’re going to use our TEs, so it makes sense to keep the guy who brings more special teams value to the table.

  • EagleDuck

    The Maehl Man always delivers! I’m not certain he’s ever dropped a pass in his life… Kelly values reliable hands, solid route running and willingness to block above game-breaking speed.

  • BIGJES

    while Maehl may lack 40 speed he holds the record at combine for quickness drills also was a great player in Kelly’s system so willing to give him a shot here

  • UKEagle99

    The 2 DJs are our burners, admittedly there is a drop off from Desean to the next guy but there aren’t many with 4.35 speed out there. Kelly knoes what he wants so I’m willing to reserve judgement. I think we have far bigger concerns than who is our #5 receiver.

  • Dutch

    Maehl caught 8 balls against sock salesmen, while Harbor was a disgrace dropping two catchable balls. I’m have a difficult time dropping the Salas kid for Maehl based on Maehl two weeks in this camp.

    Maehl and Matthews surviving final cuts in my opinion are suspect to say the least.

  • Adam

    You’ve busted them down to sock salesman already? Damn Dutch, last week they were selling insurance. You’re relentless.

  • UKEagle99

    How many snaps do they or their counterparts see per game? It’s semantics. We all have our favourites, none of us are head coach. Guess you won’t have Maehl & Matthews in your fantasy team.

  • Rick H

    Problem is that The Eagles still have 10 sock salesmen on the final 53 man roster. Maybe 13?

  • #7

    lmao

  • UKEagle99

    And as it is CKs job on the line, as opposed to you or I, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially as he has installed the offence and all.

  • Corry

    I thought Shepard played pretty well on the coverage teams. He’ll never be a returner unless Jackson and Johnson are both hurt, but he seemed to at least do a decent job on the coverage teams. I didn’t notice Maehl as much, but that’s not to say he didn’t do a decent job. Just thought Shepard showed up more.

  • Adam

    He definitely showed some flashes, but sometimes it wasn’t pretty. Maehl is more refined. I think this whole Shephard/Maehl discussion is going to be irrelevant very soon, because Maehl will most likely be the first guy cut after the Eagles start picking up guys in the waiver wire. Shephard will still be on the team, just on the PS.

  • Uriel Fernandez

    What makes you think that Barkley won’t be good though?

  • Rick H

    So what you are stating is YOU know more then Chip Kelly and the entire Eagles Coaching staff and front office plus 31 other teams that don’t want him. You can not be stable???

  • UKEagle99

    I think we are only carrying 3 OLBs at the minute and Cole & Graham were DEs last year. I’ll be very disappointed if they don’t have a verbal agreement with someone. If we go in to the season as a 3-4 defence with 3 OLBs then I know for sure it wasn’t Andy Reid that didn’t value the LB position!

  • rocketscientist

    For all your deep analysis and film review I think you should be nominated for arm chair gm of the year.

  • Anon

    I’m a lawyer too — Howie and I would get along great. But seriously that’s what Kelly said at draft time. These were people that he saw in college and was impressed (b/c they played well against Oregon).

  • Fly High

    This is important, Their are receivers in this league who lack pure speed but have great agility and quickness who are excellent receivers. I think Maehl could stick and contribute

  • Myke Lowery

    reminds me Jimmy Clausen.

  • ICDogg

    It’s true… I think he probably is still not at full strength from his last injury and so there is some hope of him (re)gaining some arm strength.

  • Token

    His arm sucks. Plain and simple. Ive never watched a guy have to put all the torque his body can muster into a 10 yard throw. His arm just cant be successful in this league. Its not about how far he can throw but rather the velocity. The time it takes the ball to get to the WR is way to long.

  • Media Mike

    Arm strength is one aspect of QB play that can be improved by NFL coaching and strength programs. Barkley, while not a guy you’d want taking competitive snaps right now, is such a good QB in other aspects of play that you’re not risking a lot by having him here for a few years as the #3.

  • Media Mike

    One of the reporters covering the team (either their own conclusion or Howie’s) surmised that McCoy was a 3rd all rush / no cover OLB and we already have depth in that type of player with Cole and Graham. Howie’s comment was that Curry can go play out there if needed in a pinch.
    I assume a bottom of the roster guy with a Barwin skill set will be somebody they’d sign in order to cut Marsh.

  • #7

    He can’t make NFL throws.

    Answer one question…. you and your boy Rick H.

    Can Barkley make the throws that Vick, Rodgers, Cutler and Flacco can make?

    Who is the last QB with a noodle arm that won the SB?

    I also dislike him now as a player because he was complaining in the LA papers about not getting first team reps. In his mind he thought he should have which was fine, but he wasn’t good enough to get those reps.

  • theycallmerob

    All three of those guys were also all-american. Many others saw, and were impressed, by them as well.

  • Uriel Fernandez

    He completed 41% of his passes thrown at least 20 yards which was higher than RGII (not insinuating hes better than RGIII) he had more incompletions over thrown then under thrown.

    For last QB to win a SB with “noodle arm” well Brees Won a SB without competing a pass over 27 yards
    Big Ben won two SB’s without completing a pass over 40 yards & Brady threw one pass over 33 yards in his three SB wins.

    All that I’m saying is i think its way to early and hes way to young to say he “sucks” or he has “weak arm” we should wait and see in time

  • Uriel Fernandez

    He very well could be lol im just saying its to early to say that hes going to be for sure bad as of right now (he is a 4th round pick though so yeah expectations should be tempered)

  • Myke Lowery

    just the expectationshype out of hs and in college seemed similar

  • dave

    Not on Sundays he doesn’t

  • laeagle

    Never let the truth get in the way of a shitty story. The motto of Philly reporters for years, as discovered by Sal Palantonio.

  • Bob A

    He was more than happy to cut Remington,Dixon and Murphy.Like laeagle said below , he didn’t let the facts get in the way of his story.

  • poetx99

    right?

  • Will

    Agree just relax enjoy all the changes, this is the dawn of a new era of football…