Pearl Properties Brings Yet More Rentals to Center City

The real estate investment company Pearl Properties has expanded its already considerable Walnut Street portfolio with another acquisition: more than 75,000 square feet at 1401 Walnut Street, which cost $15 million. According to Natalie Kostelni of the Philadelphia Business Journal, the purchase means Pearl owns floors 3 to 12, which currently have 36 apartments as well as two vacant floors that could go residential.Pearl hasn’t wasted any time in marketing the space. Below, some of the photos of the residence the company is calling, quite simply, 1401 Walnut. Also, photos of how attractive residents will become after move-in.

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Kostelni notes that Pearl’s other Walnut Street holdings include: 1117 Walnut, 1200 Walnut, 1126 Walnut, 1425 Walnut and 1611 Walnut. CBRE made the sale.

 

  • Dominik

    You can forget about Banks, Parrish or Branch, on the size issue alone. I wouldn’t want to rule out the other guys. I think Kelly would want them to really buy in to his whole approach, and rightfully so, but other than that: we need help. And guys like Moss, Robinson, Jones and even Johnson or Lloyd (just how big are his character issues? Or is it more of a money problem that a 911 yard receiver who wasn’t the No. 1, 2 or 3 target last year, still hasn’t find a job?) can provide help.

    We shouldn’t forget one thing: even if we forget Coopers incident, he just was a bad WR since he’s been here. Sure, maybe he takes two, three or four steps forward under Kelly (definitely possible), but at the moment, he’s our No. 2. And he doesn’t have to fight for it (from a football standpoint, of course he has to in some way).

    Roseman could wait for the first Preseason game and see how Shepard is doing. He has the size, at least, but of course he’s raw. If he flashes some talent against the Patriots, we still need help, but it isn’t that acute.

    Avant and Johnson are locks for the Slot, but we need outside Receivers.

    • aub32

      I think the biggest issue with Llyod is just that he comes off annoying and pompous. I’d use worse terms, but this is a family blog.

      I think Robinson is just a slot guy, and we already have that covered. Also, wasn’t the problem with Johnson in NE that he couldn’t learn all the WR positions? Kelly would require him to do the same. So I don’t see how he fits in.

      • Andy124

        If we’re just looking for a warm body, I’d give Branch a call and pump him for as much info about NE as possible while he’s here.

        Also, the guy made the most out of his limited skills, so he may have some wisdom to share with DJ1 and DJ2. It was mentioned how DJ1 never really developed his “small man game”. Branch could be a great resource for that.

        • aub32

          I’d be inclined to agree with you if Branch had done anything, and I mean anything, without Brady. At this point I believe the only thing Branch can teach anyone his how to shut up, get coffee, and count your blessings any time you get to play with a HOF QB. Since there doesn’t appear to be one on this roster, I don’t think he really has a place here.

        • Richard Colton

          could you imagine a 3 WR set with Jackson, D. Johnson, and Branch? Que the Smurf soundtrack.

          • Andy124

            I could, but I’d prefer not to.

  • nicksaenz1

    Someone take the keyboard away from Ashley. Please. Her first article made her look stupid because he hasn’t been cut and now she’s doubling down. Give it up, already.

    • B-West

      I found it refreshing how the Eagle’s locker room handled a tough situation. I, too, was expecting worse. But thus far, they’ve handled it an incredibly stand up, mature fashion. I think it says something about Fox’s character that she can’t appreciate that, and instead chooses to perpetuate her doom and gloom scenario.

      • Andy124

        Eh, she gets paid to do a job.

        • G_WallyHunter

          ya lol if she gets paid to stir up the pot and make some pretty wacky assumptions and predictions…. hey she’s doing a great job

          • Andy124

            Pretty much, yeah.

          • B-West

            Fair point. ESPN has to fill multiple networks for 24 hrs a day. They will continue the conversation by any means necessary. See Skip Bayless for further evidence.

          • aub32

            At least Skip is knowledgeable about sports, and that it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t actually believe some of the more ridiculous things that he says.

          • Andy124

            “At least Skip is knowledgeable about sports”
            You. Take. That. Back.
            Take it back!

          • aub32

            lol. He knows sports. He just uses said knowledge to come up with the most ridiculous view possible, but I give him credit for knowing enough about sports to find the most obscure stats and moments to actually make the casual fan think “You know, Maybe this guy has a point”. He is the sole cause of the Tebow movement. It takes talent to serve garbage to so many and have them believing it’s filet mignon.

          • Andy124

            I’m just having a little fun with his reputation. I’ve never actually watched the guy.

          • Dutch

            Ashley is reporting on a significant incident in the most beloved sport in America. She’s in no way responsible for “Stirring up the pot”. This incident because of it’s connection to the NFL is much larger than being some internal affair within the Phila Eagles.

            Riley Cooper initiated this being a horrible drunk and obviously somebody in his circle of associates at that concern took the video and posted it for the world to see.

            What keeps this going in are those who continue to minimize Riley Cooper’s antics simply because of their sense of entitlement and not having any connections to individuals of other cultures.

          • aub32

            Wow I just caught myself saying “hey what’s with Andy124 today?”. Somone woke up on the top of a soapbox this morning. Then I realized the numbers were missing. Is this what it was like when he was atb124. I see why people were asking one of us to change our handle.

          • G_WallyHunter

            HAHA thankyou, Dutch please, you’re stirring the pot now lol… I’m not trying to brush it under the rug ok, I’m just saying Ashley should choose better words for her articles haha she’s a bad writer. period. this is merely and example

          • Andy124

            Doesn’t help when disqus shows the wrong name attached to a post.
            And yeah, I’ve got a soap box, but I think it’s polite to keep my non-football related rantings off of a football blog lol.

            EDIT: So I finish posting about keeping my non-football related rantings off of a football blog only to scroll cown and see you talking about keeping non-football related issues out of a football blog. Fun times.

          • aub32

            Couldn’t agree more.

        • JofreyRice

          I’m kind of on the same page. I don’t quite get the vitriol for Fox. Guys like Peter King are far more insipid, and devote entire columns to the f#$Qing red socks & fruity beer, and get a lot of respect, nationally.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I just picture someone taking it away like a parent taking away a kids toy… her boss over at ESPN… “No Ashley! You’ve written enough crappy articles for this week, and especially regarding the Eagles situation, no more keyboard time for you”

      • nicksaenz1

        Oddly, that’s exactly how I envisioned it. Lol.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Ha! her sitting in the playroom she calls an office, putting on a pouty face when the boss rips the keyboard away.. “But.. But.. I want to write more stupid, assumptive, wacky predictions to stir the media some more..”

          • nicksaenz1

            I mean, she does work for Disney…

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ah yes, a manipulative employer indeed…
            This is why you stick with Birds 24/7, where they aren’t owned by one of the major manipulative news networks that are all owned by the same entity (NBC, CBS, ESPN(DISNEY), CNN, FOX)

    • Media Mike

      Ashley Fox is a horrible writer. Her work on ESPN is universally ripped on ESPN in the comments section.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Do you think they keep her on for diversity reasons? lol

    • Name

      I agree… Ashley Fox is clueless on some many levels she shouldn’t even speak.

    • Justin

      Isn’t she the one who was so sure that Peyton Manning and the Broncos were going to win the Super Bowl? Because if so, she comes across as grossly unprofessional.

  • nicksaenz1

    Lloyd looks like the best option on the list. Most productive receiver over the last 3 years. Seems like money is what’s going to be the hold-up there.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Slim pickens

  • David J Daniels

    To me Benn’s injury could be a blessing in disguise. The team went out on a limb to sign Momah, I would love to see them with some time to develop him. He has to have the biggest upside of any young receiver on the roster. I like the combo of DJax, Coop, Avant, Damaris, Shep and Momah. Keep one or two of the other young WR’s for the practice squad and we should be good. As for Ashley Fox…did Coop deny her his last name or something at some point?? She is living up to the Negadelphia reporting mantra big time…..just not too credible a source to me.

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      momah was dominated yesterday. hopefully today is better and Friday night he can show some things. but he hasn’t gotten off the line or used the speed they said he had. im rooting for him tho

      • Alex

        Its day to day with momah. what else could you expect from someone who has never played in the league. He will come around, and will be a nice red zone weapon.

        • Brent E. Sulecki

          hoping

    • Media Mike

      Momah cannot be on the 53 at this point, but would make a nice practice squad player.

    • aub32

      Momah isn’t playing fast nor up to his size. He’s struggling to get seperation from DBs that barely come past his waste. Yet fans will make all the excuses for him because they want themselves a Calvin Johnson. There’s a reason why he’s so special. It takes more than size and speed to play in this league.

  • Philly0312

    I prefer we sign none of these guys on this list. I’d rather see what the young guys can do.

    • aub32

      Who?? Momah? Miller? Wasn’t he already cut. We like reports about Shep, but he went undrafted for a reason. I’m not impressed by this list either, but we need to get something in here because it’s not like we have heard so much hype about these undrafted guys to believe they can step in and show out.

      • Philly0312

        Nothing on this list is worth a vet min contract. Wait for cuts and sign one of them. That said I’m fine with our top 4, better than anything mcnabb had, except the 2005/2005 season. Even that is debatable.

        • aub32

          I’m ok with the top 4 as well, especially considering our TE and RB situation, but we still need reliable depth. Right now I wouldn’t count on anyone outside of DJ, Coop, Avant, and DJ2 to even make the team if there were any other options available.

          • Philly0312

            I cant disagree with that at all.

    • Dutch

      From what I’ve seen of the Oregon passing attack I think it’s better to work with what’s in camp. Anyone with speed and who could be considered a credible threat to catch a pass would suffice in Chip’s offense. Throw Shepard to the wolves and see if he’s capable of making the adjustment.

  • Alex

    Funny how there was no pressure so sign a free agent until Benn goes down. Are you kidding? Did people actually think he would contribute to our offense. The dude gets hurt left and right. Its no surprise that he got a season ending injury. There are no options on this free agent list.

    We will be fine with what is on the roster. Momah will progress slowly and don’t forget about all the TE’s on this team. I see ertz being used as a WR more then TE.

    We are fine people. Avant will step up so will Cooper. No one has more to prove on this team then Mr. Cooper.

    • Dutch

      The ACL injury to Benn was unfortunate but was not unexpected. The Eagles are better serves providing Benn an injury settlement and moving forward to address their receiver needs.

      This is a repeated occurrence. Same strategy in free agency brings the same results.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    take Phil Sheridans pen also…he writing that the whole thing never happened and eagles made things up…nice conspiracy theory…really??

    • Andy124

      In the off chance that anybody cares what Phil said, “the whole thing” that Brent is referring to is Cooper’s counceling.

      • Brent E. Sulecki

        right. a clever plan to deceive by the eagles to make everything blow over quickly…im not buying it

  • This site bans you for nothing

    ashley fox is playing the dumbbell role of warning us how bad its going to be for Cooper.

    the media loves to fan the flames and race bait. Cooper will be cheered on Friday night ..not because fans like that word….because fans don’t like media race baiters piling on after the guy apologized…..

  • This site bans you for nothing

    why is my other email banned? are you guys too dumb to realize I can post with a thousand email addresses? did I make the mistake of saying how the media loves to race bait and is full of crap…..

    • Johnny Domino

      Save it.

    • Richard Colton

      They probably banned you for the five dot ellipsis. That’s a serious no-no for Kapadia.

  • Johnny Domino

    Foregoing the gratuitous TO listing greatly appreciated.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I noticed as well, also appreciated

  • G_WallyHunter

    Lol shut up Ashley…
    Get outta here with whatever it is you call journalism…

  • Token

    All those options are pretty bad. Just stick with whats here. Id rather look in the arena league that sign one of these guys.

    Wait for cut downs and see if anything shakes loose.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya, I really say Donald Jones is the only one even worth a look…. I got faith in Moe or Shep showing something encouraging in next few days too… give them more reps and they may just surprise..

      • southy

        I’ve yet to hear anything redeeming about Momah to come from the football field. He’s tall and can run fast, at least on a track. But you’d expect a guy that big to at least be physical, use body position, fight well for contested balls, etc. Maybe I’m missing something, but I’ve heard nothing of the sort.

        • Adam

          Going from not playing football in 2 years to playing in an NFL training camp wouldn’t exactly be the easiest adjustment. He needs to get back into football so he can run his routes and make his breaks without thinking, then he can start using his physical attributes. I think if he makes the practice squad it will be purely on potential. I don’t think Chip Kelly can pass up a guy with that size and speed without attempting to get his hands on him to mold him.

          • aub32

            This word “potential” will make apologists out of us all huh. The potential of Momah. The potential of Foles. The potential of the Kelly-Vick duo.

          • G_WallyHunter

            the potential for the Eagles this year? lol just like last year and the year before?

          • Adam

            Apologist would be under the assumption that I cared if Momah makes the team. If he was gone tomorrow I wouldn’t shed a tear. Just a matter of whether or not Kelly thinks he can turn this guy into something after a year on the PS. For a guy who preaches size and speed I have no doubt he thinks he can work with him. I could very well be wrong as well.

          • aub32

            I was speaking in general. I wasn’t directly calling you out, but your post was relevant.

        • Token

          I want to see him in games. But so far it seems the 40 time at the pro day was a bit off.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Ya just as Adam said below, I agree with that. There have been reports of a few flashes, but you’re right not so much as of yet. I recall Kelly saying the other day how Moe isn’t quite running at full-speed because he’s still thinking too much? I hope that rings true as well.. just as he said start using the physical attributes. I just hope this will give him more reps to give him that practice he needs…
          regardless of when these qualities show up, you can’t give up on a 6 foot 7 4.40 time that easily right? I’m hoping for the best there

          • Andy124

            Even if he his football speed never does match his track speed, I’d gladly settle for someone who plays like a 6’7″ 4.55 wide out.

            Some people pick up those WR skills faster than others and some never really do. We haven’t been hearing about him making great strides so far, so we pretty much have to hope he’ll improve with time as opposed to just never getting it.

          • G_WallyHunter

            EXACTEMON.. this guy got stalled, lets hope CK can oil up the gears and get him back into shape…
            If it helps, we’ve only heard good things about him in the last week or so, so maybe there is a gradual improvement happening here and CK sees improvement to warrant more reps and attention.. imagine having this guy produce at this level, then having Casey, Ertz, Moe, and Desean all out on the line, jeeze, gives me butterflies thinking about that and the mismatches…

      • aub32

        This lover affair with fans and Mo is so unfounded. He’s struggling to make the team at this point, and that’s after losing two WRs.

  • Stuart Philp

    Lloyd and Robinson seem like the only options out of that group, conditional on character and health respectively… Hopefully Shepherd shows something in preseason.

  • JofreyRice

    I know the urge to rip Ashley Fox is strong, but as jacked up as the logic is, what she’s saying rings true. The ability to produce on the field is the great redeemer. If Cooper can play well, it’s likely all will be forgiven, and if he stinks like he’s stunk so far in his career, then it could be an issue.

    • nicksaenz1

      If he stinks as he’s stunk before, isn’t he out the door anyway as it’s the last year of his rookie deal? Thought it was, could be wrong… Winning is the great redeemer. If they start losing and it’s because of our awful secondary are they really just going to start causing problems for Cooper 2 or 3 months after the fact? I doubt it. I can’t see the vets that have stepped up on this issue letting such a thing happen. Now if he’s blowing games single-handedly, different story, but blowing games will be the reason, they might just throw stuff in his face from this incident to pile on.

      • Joethomas215

        I heard from someone that’s working at Training camp that DeSean and shady were the most vocal about Cooper. They also got in Vick about how he needs to control these guys. But you can’t blame Vick for what someone says

    • Adam

      I’m just not sure Cooper has a high enough standing in the locker room for it really to cause that much of an issue. He’s not a team leader or in a position of great importance as a #3 receiver. If it was Nick Foles and he won the job I’d be worried about it becoming an issue. Maybe a back or a lineman misses a block, or a receiver pulls up on a route or something, then that could be a big issue. But if Cooper plays bad and it starts to have a negative effect on the locker room he’ll be gone. He’s probably only here right now because they want to evaluate how replaceable he actually is.

      • JofreyRice

        I don’t know. Seems like he’s being fast-tracked for the starting job or something. I kind of thought he’d be fighting for a roster spot, but it almost seems they view him as the best replacement for Maclin.

        I think this kind of stuff simmers in the background. Think about what a big deal it was that disgraced CB Nnamdi Asomugha ate lunch in his car, rather than with the team. Now, Nnamdi had a much higher profile, of course, but his transgression also wasn’t nearly as serious. Honestly, I’d have cut the guy, already. They have enough on their plate trying to turn this thing around.

        • Adam

          For sure. If the wheels fall off the media will scope out this angle. Did Riley Coopers racist comments make the secondary terrible? Of course it did. Did it make Mike Vick fumble the ball? Probably. That’s just the game they play.

          I think keeping Riley here had more to do with Chip setting the tone for how he treats his players and showing the other guys that he can be trusted and will not turn his back on you as soon as things get rough. Chip has always been a guy that has been extremely loyal and supportive of his players, but is not afraid to punish his players at the same time i.e Blount back at Oregon. I think by handling the situation the way he did he covers all his basis. Now if he feels the need to cut Cooper it can be purely on a football standpoint. By weathering the media circus for a few weeks he’s earned the teams respect, I think.

        • aub32

          The difference is Nnamdi was brought in to make this the “dream team”. Expectations were that he was going to be a monster in the secondary. His play was indeed scary, but not in the way we hoped. I don’t many people have lofty expectations for Riley. Even if he has a good preseason, many of the fans and media will still view him as a JAG. So if he’s just mediocre, fans will just chalk it up to him being the same old Riley Cooper.

    • aub32

      If the Eagle start 1-5, I’m pretty sure they will have bigger concerns and frustrations than what Cooper said months before. I normally don’t give a crap what Fox say, but damn she’s getting annoying.

      • G_WallyHunter

        yeah just recently she’s been getting annoying, she wrote a great article last year about “it being Andy’s last chance blah blah blah” and it was a good read, but since then, jeeze, terrible… I agree with joffry tho, it rings true. She just makes it sound like a damn movie trailer rather than a well-thought out article..

  • Andy

    Ashley Fox is on record for ESPN saying that Riley Cooper would be released by the Eagles. Clearly she was wrong, but is still pushing that view.

  • Chris

    The Injury Gods have not been too kind to us so far this season, I was hopeful for Benn but at least we all knew injury concerns were an issue. I like our young prospects but I think you still need a stable #2 guy on the other side of DJ. Would like to at least try out Lloyd, or we could always keep an eye on roster cuts in the near future.

    I’d really love for Shepard to take that spot, however. It’s just hard to trust a guy who isn’t proven as a true WR yet. LOVE his camp so far, though.

  • Token

    Check out this video of WR 1v1 with the Pats.

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/videos/WRs-Take-On-Patriots-DBs/5d84f084-00eb-44d4-a17d-d08634e9c872

    Momah looks really bad here. First time hes just stumbling over himself. He just isnt using his body and doesnt look that fast. Hope something can click with him.

    • JofreyRice

      eh, it was essentially just a flier. Nothing lost, really. The only reason why there was any expectation was because of his size–and it was a little unrealistic, considering his inexperience. I guess a positive is that he’s so bad he’ll probably make the PS. Maybe he can develop for a year or two, there; an overgrown Billy Sampy. The guy is just so raw.

  • WHY NOT

    Bring in Chad Johnson he’s the best on the list. This people are going to doubt it but he is the best. And yes I would do the unthinkable and bring in T.O, for a tryout to kick the shoes we already have a media zoo so what do we have to lose.

    • Adam

      There’s a reason nobody is looking at either of these guys or has been in a long time. Go play NFL Street 2 if you want those guys, they aren’t NFL receivers anymore.

      • Really Think about it

        Brandon lloyd and who ever else are not better than Chad or T.O for that matter out of whos left and the team needs you find someone better oh there aren’t any yea…..

      • EaglePete

        Thanks, always amazed at these ridiculous calls for outdated stars. They cant get over that star appeal even long after it has disappeared. It reminds me of Vick apologists….oh wait, oops, I mean……at least he has something left in the tank whether you want him here to start or not.

        • Anon

          Look at the options we have otherwise. I think it’s naive not to look elsewhere given the talent that’s on the street right now. Would you rather pick up another player that has injury issues (see robinson) or another camp body (Momah) or would you rather take a flyer on a future HOF’er that has a deep desire to play the game? People said Peyton wasn’t going to be able to play again either. All of this not picking players over 30 is BS if it’s at the right price…

  • cliff henny

    at least one of either jones, robinson (both nice ages and production) or get stokely here asap. all these young recievers could learn something from him. add 2 bs guys, too. care more about reps on current wrs (esp. jax), dont want them run into the ground before the season even starts.

  • Andy124

    Due to weather concerns, practice moved up to 10:25 today. Hooray!

  • Joethomas215

    I heard from an inside source that Shady and DeSean were the most vocal about Coopers slur. They even went as far as to get on Vick about it. Hopefully they have come around and this thing is over. If them two dwell on this it could.be a problem, but I doubt it will be a problem come October, that’s a bit of a stretch. Atleast Fox is informing us that the media will be waiting to bring it up at the first sign of the team struggling, hopefully they are better then that

  • Gregory

    Time to sign TO?

  • don’t delete posts u dorks

    this site sucks, why even post ? if you post anything slightly pro-cooper the douches here take it down.

    • aub32

      You could…..I don’t know…..leave. Most the posts today aren’t even about Cooper. The ones that are are more about the fact that he may actually be he best option at #2, or that Ashley Fox is an idiot and completely wrong about Cooper being ostracized in October. Very few people here are still anti-Cooper. Most people have either accepted it or dismissed it.

    • Guest

      Pro cooper or pro racist?

  • bushisamoron

    If Laurent Robinson’s head is cleared from concussions I would bring him to compete. Otherwise, I would look at trading for someone already on a roster. I want no part of the other WR’s mentioned.

  • Septhinox

    WTF is Ashley Fox talking about? Those things would have nothing to do with the issue. Are players going to say, “Man, we are 1-5 and Cooper hasn’t played as well as Maclin because he used the N word?”

    So glad for the local beat writers in Sheil and Tim (and Jimmy K).

  • Run Eagles Run

    why not wait till some cuts are made and get a much better WR? I think I read NE has a deep WR corps. One paper even thought julian edleman was on the bubble, but I find that hard to believe. I feel bad for Laurent Robinson. Hope he gets healthy and catches on somewhere.

  • Lamaar

    Sheil & Tim is it possible to limit the number of comments per article one individual can make? This is a perfect example of someone that drones on and on about nothing but effectively interrupts the communication with both of you and also intelligent conversation among the commenters. It really ruins the whole spirit that you guys have created.
    This one person (D…h) is really extreme and annoyingly redundant!

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    Scratch Donald Jones off the list he’s retiring…he has a kidney disorder

  • Andy124

    Bold prediction:

    There will be total disagreement about who won the “eye-test” tomorrow morning.

  • Andy

    I don’t know if Barkley has the tools it will take to succeed in the NFL, but after reading the ESPN Magazine story on Johnny Football (http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9521439/heisman-winner-johnny-manziel-celebrity-derail-texas-aggies-season-espn-magazine) it is clear that Barkley handled his college success (and later, challenges) so much better than Manziel it is like night and day.

    I don’t know if it is his upbringing, the school environment, or just the head on his shoulders, but these two have to be case studies in how to handle and not handle success at a young age at big-time college football schools.

  • Mr. Wu
  • G_WallyHunter

    Great point there, it will be a good gauge on the secondary when we see how they do against Mallett, if Mallett has a tough time its encouraging, and if Mallett rips them apart like Brady did in practice lol, then very discouraging and confirming of everyone’s expectations of the secondary..

  • lebowski

    God I hope our offense is good enough to make up for this D. But, seriously, it needs to be 7:30 already. LET’S GO BIRDS!!!

  • B-West

    The 2012 draft will define this defense. If Cox can dominate, and Boykin and Kendricks can fall some where between solid contributors to playmakers, then this defense has a chance to survive. I have no illusions of a great defense, but that’s the chance for respectability.

  • jon h

    Time will tell. Davis inherrited a LOT of issues on the D side of the ball. But it is refreshing to hear someone who’s not making excuses and realizes he has to dig out of a hole.

  • dislikedisqus

    Translation: “not ready for prime time”.

  • ICDogg

    I look forward to the “Logan Square” formation

  • GEagle

    When the Eagles were getting run over the first drive, and Cox was on the ground being Pancaked, they weren’t 3-4, two gapping, they had single gap responsibilities on that play.

    • JofreyRice

      Is this from another blog? I’d like to read that article, because to me, it looks like a classic 2 gap alignment, and it seems that all the linemen are engaging the blocker directly after the snap. I’d be curious to read the analysis on that.

      • GEagle

        No…coaches interview…they were single gaping on 1st drive, and then switched to two gap…cox had single gap, it’s just Soldier pushed him perfectly out of his gap, leaving a huge hole that looked like was a blown two gap responsibility..

        As for Cary Williams, his words seemed to have rallied the troops. Defensive had one of its best days yesterday..

        • G_WallyHunter

          either his words did or that terrible performance on Thursday did… probably more the latter but I’m sure a combination of the two..
          Not to mention the filmroom talks that are probably going on between Davis and crew, going over and over it lecturing on it…

          • GEagle

            Yeah, but if it wasn’t Cary’s word, then I would have expected the D to come out like Gangbusters on Sundays practice(first practice after the game)…They had watche dthe film, and the coaches I’m sure let them have it before they got to sundays practice…yet the Big defensive practice didn’t come til Monday, the day after Cary spoke up

        • JofreyRice

          Do you remember which Coach? I watched 2 Davis interviews and the Kelly interview, and I didn’t find anything specific about the front. In Kelly’s interview, he talks about some gap issues.

          In regards to the gap issues, a reporter (I think Mosher) asks him “Do you think some of those are because guys are playing a two gap for the first time?”

          He responds: “Just some of it, the whole system’s new, so, I think it’s your first live action in a game. We haven’t had you know, live football, you know, since we’ve been here, so that was our first time, so.”.

          One thing I noticed about him is that he finishes most sentences with “so” in these PC’s.

          Later on, when he’s talking about Fletcher Cox he says “I think all the guy’s are learning their gap responsibilities and when they’re supposed to be there.”. Beyond just what I see from looking at the alignment, I kind of interpreted his use of the phrase “responsibilities” to mean Cox had more than one gap he was responsible for, at least part of the time.

  • Stuart Philp

    I feel like the line will come together by the time the season starts, I’m not overly concerned about the front 3 (1s and 2s).

    The LBs will probably be a rough area all season. They might get some pressure on the QB, but will likely only be adequate in coverage and against the run.

    The secondary has me worried. I feel like any team will be able to throw against us in any way they please. Maybe some hard hitting toughness would help cover up technical limitations, but we haven’t seen that either.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I think the secondary will get the best test PS week 4, if the secondary looks like they did against Brady, but this time against Sanchez/Eugene, then yes, that’s when concerns will start flowing much faster..

      • GEagle

        Tell you what, Friday wasn’t pretty…but I was absolutely surprised at how tight our coverage was on the most part…Brady was just surgical, we will not have to come across that type of pinpoint accuracy too often…I did not think our coverage would be so tight early on, but they am Brady work for his completions and that was nice to see…We also haven’t seen our best Corner yet, bu whe the season starts Cary is an Ironman who will fight for us or 16 games. Hoping we get the Cary that held up in the playoffs when the Patriots were going after him, instead of Regular season Cary..
        ..
        tough to find a player who stepped up more in last years playoff, elevating his play from that of the regular season then C-Dub.

        can’t wait to find out which Cary we are getting. He did his thing in yesterday’s practice. held up nicely against Desean who has been Murderous against whoever has tried to match up with him

  • Andy124

    Silver linings time:
    At least 3 Brady completions came against excellent coverage => tiny glimmer of hope.
    Run defense => I got nothing. We’re not going to give up 248 every game, but we can do a lot better than that and still be bad. Ugh.

  • Andy

    I predict the phrase “clock management” becomes a very popular one in Kansas City beginning this fall.

  • Basscase

    Peter King never fails to amaze (or disappoint).

    Reid says he “only wants to coach”, but both sides blame each other for the personnel debacles the past couple of years.

    • EaglePete

      I was thinking exact same thing. Here is Reid demanding all those responsibilities, yet now “he just wants to coach” ya know, you can just stfu with that nonsense, you asked for it Reid, and for King to just give him that easy out, total weaksauce.

      • Basscase

        IKR. We have YEARS of documented evidence of Reid wanting to control personnel decisions. This whole “All I wanna do is coach, daddy” nonsense ignores that both he and Roseman had a hand in the lack of depth this team sees now.

        (BTW – King slagged McNabb for YEARS before coming out with a praiseworthy piece on him, right before he was traded to the Redskins. Objective much?)

        Also, King’s followers are roasting him for coming to Jeff Fisher’s defense, insinuating that Kosar was “drunk” when he called out Kellen Clemens and the Rams WRs during that preseason, when it turns out his slurred speech is due to all the concussions he’s suffered over the years.

        King can pound sand.

  • Dr Rick

    Great article. The Grantland piece is excellent as well and has lots of other links, enough to drive around in for at least an hour. Good stuff!

    Prediction that no one else will agree with: The Birds will run the single wing at least once this season, probably from a second and goal at the 6. 8^)

  • EaglePete

    Special teams has looked way better so far, gotta love that. Demaris had a nice return, he shouldve been able to make that final juke to get by the punter. Oh well, Im just getting greedy, another guy was pursuing fast. Coverage has also looked solid, they were so pathetically bad last year its a nice thing to see.

  • reb

    Is anyone else sick of the deja vu about Allen? “Nate Allen…took a bad angle” What’s the point of being able to really hit hard if you can never actually get to the guy to hit them? Allen’s a bust. Let him go.

    • BDAWKS

      Allen could take a direct angle at a receiver with cemented feet and not get a good hit on him. his game is just not hitting but unfortunately seems he can’t cove either hope he can prove us all wrong

  • BDAWKS

    two things of interest from chip , he says that d line is about constant substitutions to keep the players fresh and see’s the league as a whole going in this direction but is offensive philosophy does not cater to that so guess he better hope league doesn’t follow in suite in that regard. Also he talks about how the defense will not be determined by one player’s ability but rather that of all 11 players. problem is as much as i would prefer a 3-4 Defense, this team is just not built for it. i feel as bad as are D was last year we could be a very good 4-3 defense ,we have great 4 man line with excellent substitutions to stay fresh they def excel in pass rush with Cole Graham Cox Curry and Hunt and both Cole and Cox stand out in the run and Soap Thornton and Geathers are good inside guys to stuff the run are lbs are not great but both Kendrichs and Demeco did well last year and would only do better with the wide 9 gone and a defensive coordinator who actually can call a defensive game same goes for safety’s, as they are they will not be great in either defense but even if we put Allen and Coleman back out there i think they would do markedly better then last two years with out all the run responsibility onus that was burden to them thanks to Washburn. which in turn makes the corner-backs job easier again we are lacking talent here as well, but we are in either system it’s all about getting pressure and sacks on the QB.keeping the running game to a acceptable output. and i just believe as this roster sits thats in a 4-3 defense where are top 4 defensive players (Boykins aside) are best suited for. now if they want to continue to get players for a 3-4 then by all means but they aren’t here yet and won’t be this year. they really didn’t even make much of an attempt to bring those players in Soap and Barwin thats about it really maybe Logan but he isn’t ready to start yet and could play either DT or DE on either. IDK just seems like we have these two or three young great or at least high potential high draft pcks in Graham Cox and Curry that will never maximize their potential in a 3-4. how many drafts will it take to replace them and still fill in the other wholes we still have?

  • nicksaenz1

    “I believe diversity is an old, old, wooden ship used during the Civil War”

  • Andy124

    I think it’s because she’s a poor-man’s Rachel Nichols.

  • G_WallyHunter

    HAHAHAHA

  • Dutch

    That’s not surprising. The small percentage of those who don’t believe in universal equality and enjoy white privilege think along those lines. That’s pretty much why they’ve become irrelevant in America and driven with their sentiment underground and in backrooms.

  • Adam

    Oh god, I hope you’re serious.

  • nicksaenz1

    It’s a quote from Anchorman. Anchorman is a movie. You should get off the pedestal and go watch it. You might laugh.

  • Adam

    This, coming from Delta Dutch.

  • nicksaenz1

    He is.

  • Dutch

    Very, I don’t think racist in any forum are a laughing matter in America. It stands in direct opposition to our founding principles and as such promotes an abomination to the Declaration of Independence, the supreme document which makes America great.

  • nicksaenz1

    He has an employment law firm now, Delta & Dutch, LLP

  • aub32

    You do realize those same founding fathers owned slaves.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Dutch find a new place to spewt this, not the place for it. You didn’t see that what nick said was in quotes? like come on, one of the greatest comedy quotes in recent times, COME ON MAN!!! (berman)… save us all some time and work on your sarcasm detection

  • Adam

    Yeah that part when they wrote “all men are created equal” right after they told their slaves to get them more coffee. I’m sorry, but your Founding Fathers were some of the biggest racists out there.

  • Dutch

    It’s couldn’t be as simple as being a considerate human being, with respect for the next individual’s character? Does it have to be more complex than just being civilized?

  • aub32

    Whoa guy. Climb down from the ledge real quick. This is a football blog. It’s a place where we go to escape all the race and real world issue talk. However, since you bring it up, ignoring the past and present issue of race, is like acting as if it’s not there. Though by acknowledging and accepting it we can move forward. Laughter is a way to break that tension and bring us closer together. Alright now that that’s out of the way, (throws chair) Vick is awesome and Foles sucks.

  • nicksaenz1

    when has it ever been so simple or non-complex, dutch? if it were so simple, we wouldn’t have the cooper incident to discuss, which means we wouldn’t have to hear from stupid ashley fox, and you wouldn’t have your holier than thou pedestal upon which to preach to us lowly simpletons who dont have the same benefit as being as civilized and moral as you. the rest of us are just heathens, dutch. heathens.

  • Dutch

    There has always been and, will always exist individuals in America who benefit from our laws and policies who would deny you the same privilege to excel under the same format. We continue to strive for a “More Perfect Union”

    Just because you’re an America and enjoy unmitigated Freedom doesn’t mean you are a champion for those attributes affecting your neighbors in the same manner.

  • Dutch

    That is not the dispute….. Just as there were some racist in that lot of men, there were equally God Conscious men who believed :among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them

  • Andy124

    Your bias is showing and I find your heightism offensive.

  • Dutch

    I don’t disagree with your sentiments….. However in some measure I think it’s pandering. I have Skip Bayless on in my office now. He just laid down a very interesting commentary on this issue which tells me again and reinforces my belief this is much larger than a topic on a blog, or a issue to be minimize by the mantra of “just moving on and get over it”.

    This is a threat to the NFL Brand. The Eagles in my opinion have handled the issue internally brilliantly, however, that’s no the end of this issue.

    This is how an incident like this has festered because of brushing those past incidents under the rug.

    Key of the problems, is that when partners of the NFL faced the same situations those organizations have immediately fired the personnel who uttered rhetoric that was found offensive to any minority group with a presence in America.

  • Dutch

    Let this be a lesson for you in your “Powerlessness”, you’re never to old to learn. If that being your feelings, wouldn’t it be better for you to ignore my post?

  • aub32

    ESPN focuses on what will move the needle for the casual fan. Casual fans get their football news from ESPN and NFLN. They care what players are saying/wearing/dancing/not saying. Fans who care enough to scour the web in search of a single sentence that will tell them whether Donnie Jones is beating out Brad Wing doesn’t want to have the race debate interfere wih actual football talk. Sure it was relevant last week. Most frequent commentors said their peace in a respectful manner and moved on. Then you also had trolls who have never commented on this site before stir things up a bit more than usual. Fortunately, they too have moved one. What’s the purpose of us continuing the debate when actual football is literally days away? Now if McCoy punches Cooper in the face, we will revisit this topic. Until then, let’s hope the only discussion left to be had is how big of a false sense of security we get when our secondary faces Tebow instead of being shreaded by Brady

  • knighn

    Dutch, glad you’re never too old to learn: you’re wrong more than most posters on this site.

    Just the other day you told us how it takes “Two Pro-Bowl Caliber Pass Blockers to win a Super Bowl… blah blah blah blah blah” (see: Super Bowl 43 for a recent example) and you also claimed that Shawn Andrews helped the Eagles get to Jacksonville (when he was injured in the first Eagles game in 2004). Of course, these are just two of the most recent examples of where you’re wrong. You’re wrong and speak in extremes so often that most of us just don’t take you seriously.

    It’s great that you want to champion a cause, but the rest of us would like a “champion” with a lot more credibility.

  • G_WallyHunter

    I just think it is more a good time time to get with the times. I’m not too old to learn, I just understand that in this day and age, it’s time to move on.
    You know what I thought about yesterday, if rappers and musicians alike didn’t perpetuate the use if this word like they do (picture that it was NEVER used in any music whatsoever) do you think it would be a dead word? Do you think society would learn to move on from it by now? who knows..
    Interesting thought, trust me, I don’t think that it necessarily would, as the word is very important and holds a lot of meaning, I’m not discounting that, but really… interesting thought.. Eagles as a team are functioning like that it seems

  • Dutch

    Please, there are politicians, and media pundits far and separate from ESPN or sportscasters drumming this story.

    It’s not the type of issue that a few players in the Eagles locker room can put asleep. It’s obviously bigger than what you guys can phantom. That would be expected from individuals who have no associates outside their race. You could not imagine how offensive and threatening this was to African Americans because you know none on a personal social level.

    For some of you who could find a correlation to Vick’s transgression as a common denominator you when using the N word across racial lines are casting African Americans as subhuman and inferior on a level equivalent to a family pet or livestock.

  • Dutch

    The Two who pulled the eagles were Thomas and Runyan and there is not another QB who has gone to a Super Bowl without two pro bowl caliber offensive linemen.

    Of course I could be overstating the value of having a solid offensive line to win in the NFL, if that’s the case proves me wrong by listing the teams who played in the Super Bowl without Two Pro Bowl Caliber Linemen.

  • G_WallyHunter

    “speak in extremes so often that most of us just don’t take you seriously.” Lol very well said, not to pick on you Dutch, but come on, this is an Eagles blog, not a place to go to these extremes, just taking it way out of proportion in most cases

  • aub32

    Dude I’m black. I went to an HBCU. I’m in a historically black fraternity. I also work closely with and have a lot of friends of all races from literally all over the world, as a scientist. What in the Hell are you talking about??? I am not saying the issue can be solved on this blog. I am specifically saying that it can’t and shouldn’t be the forum for such a discussion. When it was relevant, people had the discussion. Now actual football is relevant, and actual football takes priority on a football site.

    O and it’s fathom not phantom.

  • knighn

    I just gave you another example proving you were WRONG! SUPER BOWL XLIII (SUPER BOWL 43). Not one of those guys on Ben Roethliserger’s O-line EVER made a Pro-Bowl or was named All-Pro. Didn’t stop Ben from making and winning that Super Bowl! Do you really want me to keep looking? I’m sure I’ll find more examples proving you wrong.

    Now, do QBs need a good O-line? Of course they do.

    However, you make a theoretical statement like it is a fact and you do it all of the damn time. Just stop. It has been ridiculous for a long time and you’re getting worse.

  • Dutch

    I don’t see the convenience of separating the two, or how relevant you being African American maybe in this discussion. Most of the general public who are offended in principle are White. Do you believer the advances in Civil Right and Equality are due to only African American protest?

    How is this not an Football issue? The authors of the forum have stated on several occasion over the last week that this very much was an issue and this was a place where it should be reported just as it’s reported as news on all credible football blogs and programs.

    Fanthom in a primitive period, maybe. Such as it’s difficult to fanthom HBCUs were funded and started by White theologians.

  • JofreyRice

    Fanthom of the Opera!

    You gotta admit that Dutch is one of the big contributors to this site. It would not be the same without him.

  • JofreyRice

    haha!

  • aub32

    “That would be expected from individuals who have no associates outside their race. You could not imagine how offensive and threatening this was to African Americans because you know none on a personal social level.”

    These are your words in respose to my post. Doesn’t me being black clearly mean that I indeed know know at least one on a personal level. That’s not including, I don’t know…my parents. Yet you’re questioning why I brought up my race.

    Let me say this, Mr. I’m offended. If the fact that you’re so upset about a man you don’t know saying a word is that offensive, then you should consider yourself very fortunate. I and I am sure other black people have dealt with much worse to be concerned with what Riley Cooper said in a drunken stupor. If he really was a racist, don’t you think this would have come out by now? Do you think his teammates would be so shocked? He’s been on the team 3+ years.

    Ok I’m done. You’re worse than Skip Bayless and are clearly just doing this because you are bored at work.

  • Dutch

    You limited Pro Bowl Caliber to having played in the Pro Bowl, example, Mathis of the Eagles was a pro bowl caliber guard in 2012 by most assessment of NFL Talent. Mathis was not voted into the Pro Bowl.

    Colon and Starks were two very good tackles with Heath Miller at Tight End protecting Ben. Yes, keep looking to prove your theory because this wasn’t any help to your mythical point.

    I would probably be of more help to you to look prior to 2009, after 2008 I think, anyone playing in the super bowl wasn’t in the pro bowl there alternate played in their place.

  • JofreyRice

    How silly of you to limit “Pro Bowl” to players that actually made the Pro Bowl. Don’t you know the Dutch reserves the right to tell you who the Pro Bowl-caliber players are?

  • Dutch

    You took that personal, but it’s a very valid statement. I make no apologies for that observation because in 98% of the cases it’s definitely fact. The accurate history of America shows this premise to be our relationship with African Americans.

  • JofreyRice

    “That’s not including, I don’t know…my parents.”

    hahahaha this is awesome. Dutch will now try and convince you that you don’t *really* know your parents.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Mr. I’m Offended bahahahahaha

  • Richard Colton

    add Constitutional scholar to the list

  • Dutch

    Those us living in America who have no fundamental understanding of the Constitution are subjecting themselves to living as surf or indentured servants with no release projections in their contracts.

  • Dutch

    That’s understandable if you are the benefactor of an Engineered Society. That’s not to say your position on the matter is wrong. You take advantage and get on where you fit in, in America.

  • Dutch

    again, that is not uncommon ideology for those of you not the target of the stigmas which have been perpetuated over centuries.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Agreed, I always read and respect what Dutch is saying, great contribution and great opinions, Speaking of big contributors, I want to know where the hell GEagle went? Is he under a new username? His style of writing is one of a kind like a snowflake, I’d notice if he had another username..

  • Andy124

    IgglesBlitz mostly. Occasional visits back to BGN as JonnyG.

  • JofreyRice

    I think he’s been banned a bunch of times, and may have been again, i dunno. I’m sure he’ll be back, or already is back, in some form…

  • G_WallyHunter

    And I can’t disagree with you there, it’s not as though I am ignoring that..
    But to see how many people on this blog who HAVE been the target of the SAME stigma you are specifying and AGREE with my sentiments regarding this situation, I guess that is a little encouraging right?

  • Dutch

    I’ve given that some consideration. This discussion is going as I had imagined being it’s connection to the Sports Complex in Phila which has often since it’s inception been a hotbed of racial strife and remain such today.

    These issues in Phila have existed since the Eagles moved from Franklin Field, and the Phillies from Connie Mack Stadium to occupy Veterans Stadium.

  • G_WallyHunter

    I’m not a benefactor of an engineered society… and I’m not a yankee. Canada is the most multicultural country in the world, anybody who is racist up in the great white north either does a good job of hiding it (and/or not pulling a “Riley Cooper”) or they don’t live here, Canada is a very accepting and polite country, although unfortunately still very similar to America in many other respects…

  • JofreyRice

    Does he spam that place constantly? I don’t mind his opinion, but when he has like 6 responses that are 3 pages long on every article, it gets to be a bit much. If he just took it down a notch, he’d be fine.

  • G_WallyHunter

    lmao you’re a step ahead of me I see

  • nicksaenz1

    That damned Sports Complex. Comparable to the Deep South in that regard…

  • G_WallyHunter

    ya always loved his enthusiasm but whenever I saw a “see more” it was time to keep scrolling lol… guys a riot… especially his paragraphs
    …….
    too bad if he got banned

  • Dutch

    I’m not certain what you’re alluring to after “but”. I don’t subscribe to the ugly stigmas attached to any culture. Having been born and reared in philly I’ve seen the worse when it comes to derogatory stigmas culturally being Phila historically is a city sliced up by dueling cultures. The single uniting force is that against African Americans.

  • aub32

    But that’s assuming 100% of the posters on this blog are white. LMAO. You’re incourageable.

  • Dutch

    did you choose to ignore the “if you are the benefactor” part of my post?

    So in all of the discussion you have no empathy one way or the other and would not begin to identify with the plight as being a very emotional issue and, or news worthy?

  • Dutch

    I make no such assumption, but I have made assumptions most were American and 3/4 of the participants are white. There still exist a digital divide in America.

  • JofreyRice

    The Best Damn Sports Complex, Period.

  • aub32

    HA!!

  • knighn

    Silly me. I forgot that we’re living in Dutch’s revisionist history.

  • aub32

    What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Better question, what are you hoping to accomplish? I honestly don’t know what’s worse, racists or the people who are so anti-racist that they overreact and feel like they have to get offended on behalf of someone else. I am telling you that what Riley did was not as offensive as you’re making it out to be. Do you know what most of my Cooper conversations have been?

    Ring Ring:

    “Hello?”

    “Hey did you hear you hear what your boy Cooper did?”

    Sigh “Yea, I know”

    “What an idiot. Sucks to be him. So what else is going on….”

    Overreacting to little things only gives power to people over you. Now I agree, there are some hateful ignorant human beings out there, but they thrive off of the overreaction to something so insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Now can we please just talk football???

  • knighn

    There you go: Typical Dutch. I show you FACTS that prove you are WRONG and you want to invent a new category: “Should Have Been Pro-Bowl according to Dutch”.

    That’s one of the things we love about you Dutch: we can always count on you to double-down on Arrogance and Stupidity.

    I was already giving the players the benefit of the doubt: if they EVER made the Pro-Bowl (or were named All-Pro) even if it was years before or after the Super Bowl season, I was counting it in favor of your argument. Both you and I know: just because a NFL player once played at an actual Pro-Bowl level doesn’t mean that they did so consistently over every season of their career. Some players improve and all players eventually decline.

    By the way: Tampa Bay Bucs also won Super Bowl XXXVII (37) with only one lineman who ever made the Pro-Bowl. Want me to keep going? These are just the Super Bowl winners. Your argument was that it takes to Two Pro-Bowl Caliber lineman just to make it to the Super Bowl. No matter how many new categories you invent, your original argument was: WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

  • G_WallyHunter

    I’m just saying get off the pedestal, it’s a football blog, not a blog about human rights and problems with today’s supposed civil society and what historically caused it. Nobody is hear to talk about that
    By after but I don’t mean subscribing to ugly stigmas in any way, I mean that this is something that shouldn’t all the sudden lead to these crazy extreme escalations and history lessons

  • Maggie

    Unmitigated Freedom??? How many children are no longer “free” to safely go to school? How many school officials have been convicted of embezzlement and corruption in the last 10 years? For that matter, how many governors and other state elected officials? How many wives, children and relatives have been blown away by petulant ex-husbands? In the workplace? Tried getting on an airplane lately? How many TSA “officials” have used “terrorism” as an excuse to sexually assault even business travellers? Received one of those secret FBI letters of condemnation or made a call on your cell phone? How many were killed in Oklahoma City, while at work? How many Floridians were prevented from voting by the GW Bush administration? How many people died from E-coli infections contracted while eating “fresh” greens? etc. etc. etc. OOps, wait a minute, I forgot. No matter the subject, or tangent, Dutch is always right.

  • JofreyRice

    I don’t know. I tend to think that the coaching staff understands that angle and reviews the QB from a deeper perspective than “Foles & Vick are throwing more TD’s than Barkley”. Most likely, they are evaluating what decisions Barkley is making, how he is moving in the pocket, and the way the ball is coming out–timing, anticipation, pass placement and velocity, etc.

    I was listening to NFL Films analyst Greg Cosell who thinks Chip Kelly may need to learn the importance of arm strength in the pros–Cosell says it’s much more of a factor than in college.

    Agreed that I’m anxious to see what he does tonight. How awesome is that? THE EAGLES ARE ON TONIGHT!

  • G_WallyHunter

    feel like I’m 10 years old and just woke up on christmas morning. Interesting point to see from Cosell there, good thing the two people fighting for spots have lots of arm strength regardless of what CK decides to do with them, so many different players to watch for tonight on both teams CAN’T WAIT

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Eh. Barkley is going to be playing against/with scrubs, like he does in camp. I’m not sure how much you can glean from his 2nd and 3rd round starts.

  • nicksaenz1

    You know if that happens things in the media are going to get crazy. Remember Foles’ hype from preseason play last year? Double it, since Barkley has the name recognition.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    guess you don’t need to watch then

  • G_WallyHunter

    2nd and 3rd round starts? Sure, he’ll be playing with a few starters out of the 22 and the rest will be 2nd and 3rd strings and bubble players, but, it’s still live NFL action and it will be an indication regardless of who he’s playing with.. obviously it will be taken into consideration when we see how he performs tonight

  • nicksaenz1

    Agreed on all counts. Regarding Barkley, he definitely needs to just shut up, put his head down, and figure out how to get better. A leader doesn’t bash the people he plays with. He should be trying to help make them better. He has to realize and accept that he’s no longer spoiled with 5 star recruits at WR that can do everything.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Bingo, that last line, I meant to add something like it. You’re not getting pampered over at USC anymore, shut up

  • nicksaenz1

    I’m not saying he’s an inaccurate QB, but having guys that cover up some mistakes helps.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    u might be right.

  • G_WallyHunter

    No seems like he’s good with short to mid throws… but his deep ball, from accounts, doesn’t have the zip it needs.. But ya he needs to take a minute and realize where he stands now..

  • THROW UP IN THE HUDDLE

    I need a top 5 defense.

  • THROW UP IN THE HUDDLE

    Front seven should b fine… It’s the secondary I’m concerned about … Wish we would have went after Sean Smith from MIA…instead of Cary Williams.

  • #7

    Cary was a pretty good player with the Ravens. I like his toughness. The thing is, he had that great front seven in front of him and that probably hid some of his weaknesses. I like the pickup if the money hasn’t went to his head

  • EricT

    These guys were cheap, short term solutions until they can draft guys as replacements. The cap isn’t moving for the next couple of years so the FO had to save cash for that. You can see the FO realizes this so they’ve stocked up on talent evaluators so they can get it as right as practical with coming drafts.

  • Maggie

    If I’m not mistaken, both New England and Green Bay have had questionable defenses in recent years, but were still considered top teams because of their quarterbacks and receiving corps. They probably had outstanding O linemen too, but unfortunately, no one pays much attention to the O line unless they screw up.

  • Richard Colton

    yeah – tough to zone blitz if your guys can’t drop. I’m hoping Graham shows enough that the threat of him dropping is enough to keep opposing offenses off balance.

  • #7

    Every team would love to have that

  • EaglePete

    in response to your deleted post….censoring language, unnecessary in my book.

    I agree, after seeing Harrison in hard knocks I kind of wish we snagged
    him for that alone. Hes a baddddd man. I think a good defense needs some
    nastiness and I find that old school mentality not around as much as it
    used to be. Would love to see some gut check plays.

  • Richard Colton

    when I land that sweet internship – im deleting everyone’s posts…except Dutch’s. His can stay.

  • THROW UP IN THE HUDDLE

    I tip my hat to you sr … U read my mind… A defense has to b NASTY , hard hitting ,ferocious… We haven’t had that kind of defense since #20 left.

  • cliff henny

    rather have top 5 offense. can win with 30th rank defense if it’s good in zedzone and gets TOs

  • cliff henny

    so was new orleans. you can win with bad defense, you cant win with bad offense. nfl has changed. kind of stinks, was always defensive guy.

  • cliff henny

    need to be self employed. mini fridge is stocked with miller lites and been visiting it since noon. it’s gameday!

  • theycallmerob

    those poor souls….

  • Andy124

    Gonna DVR the game so you can see what you forgot tomorrow?

  • nicksaenz1

    Can’t get Yards down there?

  • cliff henny

    miller lites…spend more time in bathroom that getting drunk. actually, wish i could dvr it, have to chase it down, not on my tv. or stream it online.

  • nicksaenz1

    He’s a good tackler, but he was ranked in the 70s out of 87 or so cover corners. His coverage is an issue. That said, it seemed to get a little better in the playoffs.

  • Token

    ?

    The guy was awful even behind that front 7 with Ed Reed behind him. I can only imagine how bad he will be here.

  • Andy124

    Oh, that was you. Sucks. Sorry to hear that. Good luck.

  • nicksaenz1

    I get your point, but those are two pretty big “ifs” if the defense isn’t good. Just hard to have such a combo. The Pats did it, but the Saints showed last year that it doesn’t always work like that when you have a top 5 O and bottom D.

  • Andy124

    Yup. Not that a defensively dominant team CAN’T win it all. It’s just a lot less likely than it used to be.

    Since I came to fandom during the Buddy/Reggie days, I’ve always been a defensively oriented fan myself.

  • cliff henny

    been chasing them down for 10 yrs, havent misses one yet. i’ll find it. thefirstrow.com will be streaming it worst case. caught all sixers game on there

  • cliff henny

    yards?

  • illadelphia21

    Smith’s contract was 1m more than Williams. Agree w/ the short term part.

  • nicksaenz1

    Yards Brewing Company. Philly’s own. A fantastic brewer.

  • cliff henny

    just league has changed. look at saints SB, their d stunk, but caught every tip ball. was almost annoying. defense is alot easier to play when you know offense can put up 45 too. not even ’85 bears could hold rodgers brees brady types under 20.

  • cliff henny

    nawh, my brother in law owns miller distributor…i get free miller lite and 64′s for beach. half price guinness and magic hat’s. pretty much anyone around me drinks for free as long as you arent drinking bud.

  • cliff henny

    smith really a better option? plenty of bad reports on him too. williams is fine, he’s a #2 getting paid like a #2, it’s not a bad contract. problem is, he’s by default our #1. hopefully boykins comes thru.

  • nicksaenz1

    I get you, my point is, having those tipped balls bounce your way, or fumbles bounce your way like, is largely the result of luck. Obviously players have to have the awareness and/or the hands to capitalize, and it can be done. While I obviously want a great O, it doesn’t negate a crappy D all the time, which the Saints proved last year. Need those bounces. That’s all. We’ll find out throughout the pre-season and first few games what this offense is going to shape up to be, though.

  • nicksaenz1

    Wait a minute…. Miller 64?!?! Just tell me they’re for the wife and I’ll ignore that it was said.

  • nicksaenz1

    Anyway, if you can find it down there, I suggest you give them a whirl. They make great beers.

  • illadelphia21

    No High Life? Love me some High Life.

  • cliff henny

    why i loved kelly’s hiring. as fans, have to realize the 24-14 games are done. heck, that might be mid 2nd quarter score. kelly wants to win 45-31. i agree with him. think in todays nfl, it’s alot easier to win that way than trying to battle out scores in the 20′s. sure, it’s going to be ugly on defense for stretches, just get those W’s.

  • illadelphia21

    Yes, even w/ his bad reports he still better in coverage than Williams. It’s great that Cary can tackle, don’t get me wrong. But tackling after the guy beats you and catches it is not superior to not letting the guy catch it at all IMO.

  • cliff henny

    on beach…drinking in SC sun for 5 or 6hrs, gotta stay lite. actually not a bad beer, as those go.

  • cliff henny

    champagne of beers…sure!

  • nicksaenz1

    I’ll be in the OBX sun this coming week. Send a case of High Life!

  • theycallmerob

    HAHA, man I came into this string late….Cliff, don’t be surprised if I come screaming down south in a few months. My rising senior class is destined to drive me out of state for drinking this year. And from the sound of things, you’ve got the situation under control down there.
    Enjoy the game, everyone!

  • Andy124

    I’ve scrolled past this a few times today and it gets funnier each time.

  • dislikedisqus

    I’ve always thought the 5-2 was the best defense to run also, as long as you’ve got stud lb’s.

  • ICDogg

    The Eagles got ran over on that first series by New England trying to do the one-gap and switched to 2-gap after that. It was the difference between being ran over on every play and getting picked apart by Brady – pick your poison.

  • theycallmerob

    Seattle’s under would be great, but the safety play concerns me too much. I suspected the ol’ 3-3-5, though, and the NYG had success with that recently. Chung down in the box will really test Allen/Phillips/Wolff/whoever

  • JofreyRice

    Hmmm…it doesn’t look like that to me. In fact, it seems the opposite of that.

    That first series looked like they were trying to two gap Fletcher at RE, Sopoaga at NT, and Thronton at LE. The ends were lined up directly over the tackles and Sop was lined up pretty much head up on the center (perhaps shaded to his right shoulder, slightly). At the snap, they all engaged directly with the guy in front of them. I thought it was more or less an overload concept that New England exploited, because the TE sealed Cox inside on the left side, and Cole was way far outside–created a huge alley.

    For Brady’s second series, when they weren’t running a 4-2-5 look with Cole & Barwin in 3 point stances, it seemed like they were running more of a 1 gap under front, with Cox aligned to shoot the gap between Solder and Mankins, and they ran some version of this, either straight up, or flipped through most of the rest of the game.

  • Dutch

    When the Eagles switched from slashing into a gap and played the two gap technique the Rookies seemed to have a firm grasp of that defense and created havoc tossing the Patriots Offensive Linemen to the side. Immediately after the switch Cox was get penetration getting to Brady and forcing his only incompletion. Cox went to the right gap it’s just the tackle used Cox balance against him and pancaked him twice and no linebacker at any time during that game could hold his own in filling that gap. Gap discipline was one of the major problems for the Eagles the last two years.

  • JofreyRice

    I like Seattle’s front, but I’m not sure the Eagles can really play that effectively, either. Totally agree about safety. You need a really talented guy if you’re going to be in single high when you send the SS down into the box to support the run. Whomever ends up back there in 3-3-5 looks has a lot better chance at making a play with just deep half responsibilities.

    The left side would worry me, too. Maybe Logan could effectively two gap at LE, but I’m not convinced of that yet. And the SAM linebacker has a LOT of coverage responsibility in that defense. Barwin’s very athletic, but I’m not sure he’s really got those skills. The Eagles only dropped him in coverage once, so I’m thinking they view him more as a run support/passrush guy, as well. That certainly fits with the way he’s been used in his career, so far.

    At the end of the day, it’s really going to be all about Kelly’s offense. I have to say, that I was really heartened to see he’s taking his basic–highly successful concepts–and adapting them to work in the pro game. They should run the defense they think can at least hold the score to under whatever he’s hoping to generate with his O.

  • Weapon Y

    I’ve been someone who has praised Seattle’s defense for awhile, but I agree that the one thing we cannot duplicate from them yet is a single high safety look. I’d suggest using more of a Cover 2 look, although I’d bring Chung into the box on occasion to make offenses deal with an extra potential blitzer. If we traded for Jairus Byrd, on the other hand, we’d be all set to implement Seattle’s scheme. Byrd is the missing piece to this defense. He’d be our single high safety and Chung would be our strong safety.

    We have some options on what to do with the front seven in a 4-3 under. Seattle has a two-gap four technique and two-gap one technique to the strong side, and a one-gap three technique and LEO to the weak side. If we went with this look, I’d suggest using Logan as the four technique (or five-technique depending on your scheme), Sopoaga as the one technique, Cox as the three technique, and Graham/Cole as the LEO. Cox is still capable of two-gapping, so we have some flexibility. The upside to using this version is that the MIKE (DeMeco Ryans) and WILL (Mychal Kendricks) don’t have to deal with blockers charging at them, while Cox and Graham/Cole still only have to man one gap.

    There is an exclusively one-gap variation of the 4-3 Under. The five technique plays the strong-side C gap, the one technique plays the strong-side A gap, the three technique plays the weak-side B gap, and the LEO plays the weak-side C gap. The MIKE has to play the strong-side B gap and the WILL has to play the weak-side A gap. We have more defensive linemen capable of playing this version. Thornton, Curry, and Logan can all be the five technique in this version, while only Logan might be an effective five(or four)-technique in the other scheme. It might possible to merge the two by having a two-gap one technique, but a one-gap five technique. The MIKE would still have to cover the strong-side B gap, but the WILL (Kendricks) could be completely free to blitz or drop into coverage at will.

    There is also a Jet Ends package to use in the 4-3 Under, which allows us to get a second LEO on the field similar to the dreaded Wide-9. This is a package Seattle uses primarily for a 3rd down pass rush, not an every down package (Juan Castillo and Jim Washburn, I’m talking to you). They take a defensive lineman out and put a second LEO in. Graham and Cole could be the LEOs, while Sopoaga or Logan plays a two-gap one technique, and Cox plays a one-gap three technique. We could also get Curry on the field by making him the three-technique and Cox the one-technique. In obvious passing downs, I want my best pass rushers on the field. Barwin remains the SAM on the outside shoulder of the strong-side LEO. This would be an effective way to get Barwin, Graham, Cole, and possibly Curry all on the field on the same time.

    I want a scheme that allows Fletcher Cox to one-gap and wreak havoc in the backfield, gives Mychal Kendricks freedom to blitz or drop in coverage without having to shed blocks, and lets Brandon Graham and Trent Cole charge upfield almost all of the time. The key to doing all of this lies with Seattle.

  • GEagle

    I Think the under front by far, fit our personel the best…Its just crucial that Thorton, Dixon, or Logan prove they can handle the 5tec…Love me some Soap on running downs at the Nose…
    ..
    I think Connar is a jack of all trades SAM who was brought in because he proved to be able to do anything you could ever ask of an OLB these past two years at Houston. that’s one dude, I don’t worry the least bit about….Keep in mind it’s not just about 11 players, it’s about the rotation…I was pleasantly surprised at how fluid McCoy looked, moving around is space as an OLB. If we can develope him into a guy that we can trust with coverage on 3rd downs that would be huge for us and free up Connor to get after it

    Kendrick’s is one of our most promising players, and I would feel much more comfortable with the protection a 4-3U offers the WIL…He isn’t a huge LB, our Line has to protect him, if he is going to be the weapon he can be…pLaying behind the predator, 3tec, and Nose who all get 1-1 matchups, makes it difficult for the lineman to get to Mykal

    Demeco basically laughed at the media for its post PS game 1 concerns. As soon as we kick off in Washington, “Cap” will flip the switch and do his thing…

    So impressed with our ST improvements so early in the process as well as our discapline, It’s not uncommon for penalties to be flying all over the place in the first PS game, but that was not the case…and that’s a great start, considering what we saw last year

  • theycallmerob

    Yep. Definitely need a great coverage SAM and safety moving forward. And someone needs to hold down LDE. Again, getting back to that under, I’d love to bring in Byrd next year

  • theycallmerob

    slow clap; couldn’t say it better myself.

  • JofreyRice

    Nice post. Totally agreed on Cox. I’m starting to worry they’ve got a plan in place that’s going to minimize our best defender’s strengths and abilities. Fully co-sign your opinion about the lack of a single-high guy–I mentioned it in another post, actually. Byrd’s about the best that does it today, but the need for a good deep defender is why I wanted Vaccaro, Cyprien, or Swearinger or Rambo in the draft. They also could have grabbed Goldson, or Kerry Rhodes.

    Seattle’s a very complicated and well-run defense, which are independent of each other, sometimes. There were situations last year where they took that Clemons & Irvin package put them on the edges, and had them both drop in coverage while Wagner & Thomas blitzed the A Gaps.

    I think Davis knows how to coordinate some of that as far as X’s and Os, but I think it takes touch and feel for when to do it, during the game, without getting burnt. Honestly, he doesn’t strike me as a great mind during these interviews and pressers, but who knows? I think Kelly’s a great offensive mind. Not to be a negative Nancy, but I really wish we would have grabbed someone with a better track record on D.

    I did like some of the blitzes that he ran once they switched to more of an under front on Friday–in particular, the one where Knott ended up with a sack. Both he & Acho blitzed on the play, and the OL had no clue they were coming, Knott came right through untouched. It was also nice to see a simple concept like a stunt–it was rare with Washburn. I’m trying to keep an open mind here, but I think the enjoyable parts of this season are going to be when the Eagles have the ball.