Brand New Listing! Perfect University City Home That Should Go Fast

The listing for this new-to-market University City home for sale, built around 1925, is as brief as they get at the moment: “stunning light filled fully updated home in Sadie alexander catchment. updated windows, electric, a/c, insulation and parking!” Perhaps, though, that’s all that needs to be said given the photos, which reveal the beautiful windowpane facade characteristic of many of the homes in this area, as well as exquisite detail inside.

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Let’s take a census, shall we, of what’s to love in each room:

Living room: hardwood floors, hearth, ceiling, stairway
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Dining room: Windowpane doors, molding
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Kitchen: Countertops, cabinets, floors
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Bedroom 1: steps, doors, hardwood floors
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Bedroom 2: doors to balcony, hardwood floors, unusual angles
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Bedroom 3: hardwood floors, bay window
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Bedroom 4: hardwood floors, ceiling design, ceiling fan, windows
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Bathroom 1: clawfoot tub
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Bathroom 2: subway tile walls, marble sink and accents, shower fixtures, wooden door
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In 2003, the house sold for $220,000, then sold to the current owner in 2007 for $373,000. The current asking price of $499,999 shows that homes in this neighborhood consistently appreciate, if not in skyrocketing fashion like those in G-Ho. The steady presence of eds and meds guarantee a solid investment, especially in a house with covered parking and private backyard space.

THE FINE PRINT
Beds: 5 beds
Baths: 2.5
Square feet: 2,101
Built in: 1925
Price: $499,999

Listing: 540 S 45th Street [Redfin]

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  • Philly0312

    Vick sounds like he has been all over it since the middle of last week.

    • Token

      Yea throwing balls into fly swatters sounds like progress.

      With Vick its about the games. Its about how he reacts to a team coming after him or disguising a blitz. Can he pick things up better than he has for the past 10 years.
      He will always throw pretty balls in practice. But throwing a pretty ball is about 10% of what you need to be a good NFL QB. Vick isnt getting any better at this point. But some people just keep falling for the same story line every single year.

      What im getting out of all this is that the Eagles are not strong at the QB spot, I think we all know that. Luckily next years draft shapes up to be a real nice one for those looking for signal callers. If Foles or Barkley cant beat out Michael Vick in a system that calls for accuracy and brains, then they have no future here.

      Cant wait for Friday.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        *rolls eyes*

        Vick’s batted down passes SIGNIFICANTLY decreased from 2011 – 2012 – that’s called “getting better.”

        ” If Foles or Barkley cant beat out Michael Vick in a system that calls for accuracy and brains, then they have no future here.”

        Vick’s been 60% as an Eagle – Foles finished what 62% last year mainly dinking and dunking it. Brains? Are you serious? ‘Cause Vick is just SO dumb though he’s managed to be a starting QB int he league for 10 years.

        Just stop. Go root for someone else.

        • Pennguino

          The batted pass are still SIGNIFICANT even in shorts or pads. He has hit the fly swatters at least 4-5 times already. Twice today and looking at the tweets Clifton and Logan also batted passes. Those tipped, batted balls that are up for grabs that are potential INT’s. It’s funny somewhat and kind of amusing (ha ha Vick threw it into a net) until you look at the reality of it.

          The completion percentage was not mainly dink and dunk. Foles AND Vick targeted the short pass 80% of the time. They were even in it. Find another argument. This one is false.

          Both QB’s are still neck and neck. No one has significantly played above and beyond the other.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            “Both QB’s are still neck and neck. No one has significantly played above and beyond the other.”

            Keep telling yourself that.

          • #7

            We shall see

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Im callin BS on that stat

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            IF you consider short passes 1-20 yards than yes BUT most of Foles passes were between 1-15 so no.

          • Dutch

            The bulk of Foles passes were for 4 yds at the max. He completed 3 passes beyond 20 yds. Key in his problems is he can’t hit the out pattern more than 10 yds off the line of scrimmage. Floating balls through a defense in the NFL isn’t going to work for Foles or anyone else. Barkley does have placement on a ball for receivers and great anticipation and touch. Foles still needs to develop those attributes and develop them under a rush.

          • Pennguino

            look up the data and enlighten yourself. Your self delusional thoughts are clouding what you thought you saw.
            In the 11-20 range Foles has a QBR of 94. Vick has a QBR of 85. I still think Vick has a stronger arm and can throw with more velocity. I think he is better in the mid to deep game. It is something that Foles will work on.

          • Pennguino

            I haven’t found a site that breaks it down to 15 yards. Would like to see it if you have a link. I am not discounting it. Would just like to see it.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Um…this site broke it down to 15 yards. lol.

          • Pennguino

            thnx

          • Pennguino

            Sorry, 80% was the completion percentage of Foles. Wrong column.

            The numbers from behind the LOS out to 10 yards were

            67.6% for Foles
            67.8% for Vick

            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/5448/passing_splits.html
            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/25798/passing_splits.html

            +41 Yards
            Foles 25%
            Vick 18.2.
            As I have stated before. I think Vick throws a better deep ball. But Kelly’s system looks to be a short passing / heavy run game. There Foles has the edge by 5% on completion.

          • Dutch

            It’s better a ball is batted down at the line than tipped floating through a defense and intercepted like Foles balls going through a defense. Vick doesn’t have a problem putting zip on a ball and has one if not the strongest arm in the NFL, Foles passes were 4 yds or less with only 3 pass completions over 20 yds in 2012.

            You guys keep telling yourself this is a real competition if that makes you feel better but in reality it’s not. Eagles defensive backs and linebackers are picking Foles like immigrants pick fruit. It’s not difficult, he doesn’t have zip on his ball, has difficulties reading defenses and stares down his receivers so defenders are with ease beating receivers to Foles passes.

          • Pennguino

            AS Brick stated below. I call BS. Show me the stats you are reading. SI has Foles completing 3 less balls than Vick over 20 yards.
            If anything Vick is thought of as not being strong in the defense reading by the media and analyst.
            Staring down receivers. This is a common trait with ALL rookies.
            Immigrants picking fruit…sigh
            Way to stay classy princess

        • #7

          LOL!! Young “Token” needs to go ahead and log off now lol

        • Token

          I just want the off season to be over. I just want to get Vick on the field and let him be the player he has always been so we can finally rid ourselves of one of the worst signings in franchise history.

          I look forward to talking with you a few weeks into the season.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            LOl.

            The worst signing in franchise history went 8-8 in a year that the defense couldn’t stop ish and the super bowl champions were 9-7.

            The worst signing in Egales franchise history who has the best divisional record of any of the QBs in the East.

            The worst signing in franchise history manged to win 3 games and was in position to win 2 more (hi crap defense) with no oline and a STILL Sh*tty defense. With a coach and OC who were calling 7 step drops and running play action but never running the ball.

            But yes. I know. It was all the QBs fault.

          • Token

            How far have fans expectations fallen? What a beaten down fan base. Just listen to yourself.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            The only beaten down fan is you Mr. Grumpy Pants.

            Unlike you I know football is a TEAM sport – if the bulk of a team is bad a QB not named Brady or P. Manning is not winning anything.

          • GoBirds1

            BB, please explain Vick’s implosion at the end of the season and into the POs in ’10, after his greatest stretch of football in his NFL career. And please explain his horrid record in playoff games??? I am sick of highlight makers and stat compilers as our QB. I want a winner that Wins!!!

      • Dutch

        I told you every day and twice on Sundays Foles wasn’t ready. He looks good when there is no defense covering his receivers but enter a defense and he looks the same way he looked in his appearances last season and while at Arizona, no good enough.

        The Eagles missed their QB when they passed on Geno Smith who played in the same offense except he threw the ball more.

        • Pennguino

          Va-Geno is a drama queen and a head case. We just got over that. Don’t need another one.

        • #7

          Man I can’t lie. I don’t trust Geno man, but Vick would have beat his a$$ out too…lol

        • Token

          Geno Smith is a non factor. Just a guy. Chip obviously feels the same way.

          Maybe Chip knows he wants one of these kids coming out next year and figured he will just work with what he has for a year.

          • Dutch

            Chip doesn’t need a high pick QB to come into this offense just to hand the ball to Shady. That would be a waste of a good position in the draft. Chip Kelly is not a put the ball in the air coach and he has never been. He’s not going to divert from what made him a highly recruited coaching prospect.

          • Token

            come off it. You need a QB to win. This isnt college. Even if Chip thought that way, the organization knows better. If they really seemed content to not get a legit QB then its probably time we all stopped wasting our time with this team. You can run the ball all you want, but you need a QB to win you the games.

            While Chip certainly believes in running the ball, he passes. He his offenses pass very well. At New Hampshire they passed. At Oregon they passed. I Think his QBs there always had over 30 TDs passing. Its all about efficiency.

      • #7

        Those were his only incompletions

  • Philly0312

    Vick sounds like he has been all over it since the middle of last week.

    • Token

      Yea throwing balls into fly swatters sounds like progress.

      With Vick its about the games. Its about how he reacts to a team coming after him or disguising a blitz. Can he pick things up better than he has for the past 10 years.
      He will always throw pretty balls in practice. But throwing a pretty ball is about 10% of what you need to be a good NFL QB. Vick isnt getting any better at this point. But some people just keep falling for the same story line every single year.

      What im getting out of all this is that the Eagles are not strong at the QB spot, I think we all know that. Luckily next years draft shapes up to be a real nice one for those looking for signal callers. If Foles or Barkley cant beat out Michael Vick in a system that calls for accuracy and brains, then they have no future here.

      Cant wait for Friday.

      • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

        *rolls eyes*

        Vick’s batted down passes SIGNIFICANTLY decreased from 2011 – 2012 – that’s called “getting better.”

        ” If Foles or Barkley cant beat out Michael Vick in a system that calls for accuracy and brains, then they have no future here.”

        Vick’s been 60% as an Eagle – Foles finished what 62% last year mainly dinking and dunking it. Brains? Are you serious? ‘Cause Vick is just SO dumb though he’s managed to be a starting QB int he league for 10 years.

        Just stop. Go root for someone else.

        • Pennguino

          The batted pass are still SIGNIFICANT even in shorts or pads. He has hit the fly swatters at least 4-5 times already. Twice today and looking at the tweets Clifton and Logan also batted passes. Those tipped, batted balls that are up for grabs that are potential INT’s. It’s funny somewhat and kind of amusing (ha ha Vick threw it into a net) until you look at the reality of it.

          The completion percentage was not mainly dink and dunk. Foles AND Vick targeted the short pass 80% of the time. They were even in it. Find another argument. This one is false.

          Both QB’s are still neck and neck. No one has significantly played above and beyond the other.

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            “Both QB’s are still neck and neck. No one has significantly played above and beyond the other.”

            Keep telling yourself that.

          • #7

            We shall see

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Im callin BS on that stat

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            IF you consider short passes 1-20 yards than yes BUT most of Foles passes were between 1-15 so no.

          • Dutch

            The bulk of Foles passes were for 4 yds at the max. He completed 3 passes beyond 20 yds. Key in his problems is he can’t hit the out pattern more than 10 yds off the line of scrimmage. Floating balls through a defense in the NFL isn’t going to work for Foles or anyone else. Barkley does have placement on a ball for receivers and great anticipation and touch. Foles still needs to develop those attributes and develop them under a rush.

          • Pennguino

            look up the data and enlighten yourself. Your self delusional thoughts are clouding what you thought you saw.
            In the 11-20 range Foles has a QBR of 94. Vick has a QBR of 85. I still think Vick has a stronger arm and can throw with more velocity. I think he is better in the mid to deep game. It is something that Foles will work on.

          • Pennguino

            I haven’t found a site that breaks it down to 15 yards. Would like to see it if you have a link. I am not discounting it. Would just like to see it.

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            Um…this site broke it down to 15 yards. lol.

          • Pennguino

            thnx

          • Pennguino

            Sorry, 80% was the completion percentage of Foles. Wrong column.

            The numbers from behind the LOS out to 10 yards were

            67.6% for Foles
            67.8% for Vick

            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/5448/passing_splits.html
            http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/25798/passing_splits.html

            +41 Yards
            Foles 25%
            Vick 18.2.
            As I have stated before. I think Vick throws a better deep ball. But Kelly’s system looks to be a short passing / heavy run game. There Foles has the edge by 5% on completion.

          • Dutch

            It’s better a ball is batted down at the line than tipped floating through a defense and intercepted like Foles balls going through a defense. Vick doesn’t have a problem putting zip on a ball and has one if not the strongest arm in the NFL, Foles passes were 4 yds or less with only 3 pass completions over 20 yds in 2012.

            You guys keep telling yourself this is a real competition if that makes you feel better but in reality it’s not. Eagles defensive backs and linebackers are picking Foles like immigrants pick fruit. It’s not difficult, he doesn’t have zip on his ball, has difficulties reading defenses and stares down his receivers so defenders are with ease beating receivers to Foles passes.

          • Pennguino

            AS Brick stated below. I call BS. Show me the stats you are reading. SI has Foles completing 3 less balls than Vick over 20 yards.
            If anything Vick is thought of as not being strong in the defense reading by the media and analyst.
            Staring down receivers. This is a common trait with ALL rookies.
            Immigrants picking fruit…sigh
            Way to stay classy princess

        • Token

          I just want the off season to be over. I just want to get Vick on the field and let him be the player he has always been so we can finally rid ourselves of one of the worst signings in franchise history.

          I look forward to talking with you a few weeks into the season.

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            LOl.

            The worst signing in franchise history went 8-8 in a year that the defense couldn’t stop ish and the super bowl champions were 9-7.

            The worst signing in Egales franchise history who has the best divisional record of any of the QBs in the East.

            The worst signing in franchise history manged to win 3 games and was in position to win 2 more (hi crap defense) with no oline and a STILL Sh*tty defense. With a coach and OC who were calling 7 step drops and running play action but never running the ball.

            But yes. I know. It was all the QBs fault.

          • Token

            How far have fans expectations fallen? What a beaten down fan base. Just listen to yourself.

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            The only beaten down fan is you Mr. Grumpy Pants.

            Unlike you I know football is a TEAM sport – if the bulk of a team is bad a QB not named Brady or P. Manning is not winning anything.

          • GoBirds1

            BB, please explain Vick’s implosion at the end of the season and into the POs in ’10, after his greatest stretch of football in his NFL career. And please explain his horrid record in playoff games??? I am sick of highlight makers and stat compilers as our QB. I want a winner that Wins!!!

      • Dutch

        I told you every day and twice on Sundays Foles wasn’t ready. He looks good when there is no defense covering his receivers but enter a defense and he looks the same way he looked in his appearances last season and while at Arizona, no good enough.

        The Eagles missed their QB when they passed on Geno Smith who played in the same offense except he threw the ball more.

        • Pennguino

          Va-Geno is a drama queen and a head case. We just got over that. Don’t need another one.

        • Token

          Geno Smith is a non factor. Just a guy. Chip obviously feels the same way.

          Maybe Chip knows he wants one of these kids coming out next year and figured he will just work with what he has for a year.

          • Dutch

            Chip doesn’t need a high pick QB to come into this offense just to hand the ball to Shady. That would be a waste of a good position in the draft. Chip Kelly is not a put the ball in the air coach and he has never been. He’s not going to divert from what made him a highly recruited coaching prospect.

          • Token

            come off it. You need a QB to win. This isnt college. Even if Chip thought that way, the organization knows better. If they really seemed content to not get a legit QB then its probably time we all stopped wasting our time with this team. You can run the ball all you want, but you need a QB to win you the games.

            While Chip certainly believes in running the ball, he passes. He his offenses pass very well. At New Hampshire they passed. At Oregon they passed. I Think his QBs there always had over 30 TDs passing. Its all about efficiency.

  • Mr. Wu

    Well it seems Vick does better with pads, Foles is more of a tampon guy

    • Token

      Why is this the new thing to say? Vick better in pads? We have all watched this guy over the last couple years right? Am I dreaming or was he in pads then? QBs dont get touched in practice regardless of if they are in pads or not.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Are you even an Eagles fan? You’ve got to be the grumpiest “fan” I know. Pads is different than shorts b/c there is a live rush – so even though a QB can’t get tackled he’s still has defenders in his face – also the WR/TE CAN get hit – so how you place the ball matters. Also how you throw changes when you’re in pads and not. IT matters.

        Also the last couple of years you saw Vick (and Foles) with a shi**y oline and piss poor defense. But hey…it was all the QBs fault. I know.

        • Mr. Wu

          Are you even an Eagles fan? Your’ve got to be the grumpiest “fan” I know

          Thats saying a lot in Philly hah

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            lol. So true.

          • #7

            Yep

      • Mr. Wu

        Lol….think you missed the joke….there was nothing serious in my comment

        • Pennguino

          It was a good joke.

          • Richard Colton

            wu is ALWAYS funny. to the MAX.

      • Dutch

        Then by your logic it should be that much easier for Foles to show himself better than Vick in practice but he isn’t. Once Barkley gets used to the speed Foles will be further demoted.

        • Token

          Well yes, if Foles cant beat Vick then hes not a NFL starting QB. Vick is in the bottom quarter of starting QBs in this league.

          Barkley? If People think Foles has no arm they havent seen anything yet. He would not only have to show his short to mid game has enough zip, but also show he excels much more mentally to make up for the lack of physical arm talent.

          If Foles doesnt step up now, then we desperately need a QB in the high first round next year.

      • #7

        You argument is getting weak. Where you at @nicksaenz1

        • #7

          Crickets

  • Mr. Wu

    Well it seems Vick does better with pads, Foles is more of a tampon guy

    • Token

      Why is this the new thing to say? Vick better in pads? We have all watched this guy over the last couple years right? Am I dreaming or was he in pads then? QBs dont get touched in practice regardless of if they are in pads or not.

      • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

        Are you even an Eagles fan? You’ve got to be the grumpiest “fan” I know. Pads is different than shorts b/c there is a live rush – so even though a QB can’t get tackled he’s still has defenders in his face – also the WR/TE CAN get hit – so how you place the ball matters. Also how you throw changes when you’re in pads and not. IT matters.

        Also the last couple of years you saw Vick (and Foles) with a shi**y oline and piss poor defense. But hey…it was all the QBs fault. I know.

        • Mr. Wu

          Are you even an Eagles fan? Your’ve got to be the grumpiest “fan” I know

          Thats saying a lot in Philly hah

          • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

            lol. So true.

          • #7

            Yep

      • Mr. Wu

        Lol….think you missed the joke….there was nothing serious in my comment

        • Pennguino

          It was a good joke.

          • Richard Colton

            wu is ALWAYS funny. to the MAX.

      • Dutch

        Then by your logic it should be that much easier for Foles to show himself better than Vick in practice but he isn’t. Once Barkley gets used to the speed Foles will be further demoted.

        • Token

          Well yes, if Foles cant beat Vick then hes not a NFL starting QB. Vick is in the bottom quarter of starting QBs in this league.

          Barkley? If People think Foles has no arm they havent seen anything yet. He would not only have to show his short to mid game has enough zip, but also show he excels much more mentally to make up for the lack of physical arm talent.

          If Foles doesnt step up now, then we desperately need a QB in the high first round next year.

  • bushisamoron

    Preseason games will determine if Vick gets the opportunity to get injured as the starter or injured as he comes off the bench

    • #7

      You already thought it would be over already. Vick wasn’t smart enough to run this offense. Tell the truth that you didn’t think that. The system don’t matter to Vick..west coast..read-option. He should beat Nick Foles. I like Foles to be the backup, and that’s a good job in the NFL. You’re the most popular man in town

  • bushisamoron

    Preseason games will determine if Vick gets the opportunity to get injured as the starter or injured as he comes off the bench

  • EuropeanEagle

    As much as I like Cole and Graham, I think we can already predict our next first round pick will be an OLB who can actually cover. If not a quarterback of course.

    • cliff henny

      i’m thinking bridgewater or marioti. then 2-4 is cb, safety, olb unless graham goes ape-shit. why i dont really get the foles vs vick debate, i think the answer is neither when all is said and done. think both will be servicable in kelly’s offense and we can go 7-9 or 8-8 (weak schedule helps) with either till kelly gets his perfect qb.

      • Dutch

        The Eagles missed the perfect QB when they allowed Geno Smith slip by, that kid ran the same offense Chip Kelly is installing the difference was West Virginia took advantage of Smith’s accuracy and arm and threw the ball instead of rushing. Neither of the kids you are lobbying for played the competition or looked as sharp and comfortable as Smith

        • GoBirds1

          If you want to hitch your wagon to Donovan Part 2, for the next 10 years, then Smith is your guy. He will get by with all his talent but will never develop into a complete NFL QB that can take you to the promise land.

      • Richard Colton

        ohh wow. way too early to start predicting next years 4th round pick. Who knows? if 30 year olds Peters & Toddfather start acting their age, we may be looking LT in round one again. I wouldn’t rule out any premium postion in next year’s draft. 10 months is an NFL lifetime.

        • cliff henny

          aint that the truth…one week in training camp is a lifetime.

  • EuropeanEagle

    As much as I like Cole and Graham, I think we can already predict our next first round pick will be an OLB who can actually cover. If not a quarterback of course.

    • cliff henny

      i’m thinking bridgewater or marioti. then 2-4 is cb, safety, olb unless graham goes ape-shit. why i dont really get the foles vs vick debate, i think the answer is neither when all is said and done. think both will be servicable in kelly’s offense and we can go 7-9 or 8-8 (weak schedule helps) with either till kelly gets his perfect qb.

      • Dutch

        The Eagles missed the perfect QB when they allowed Geno Smith slip by, that kid ran the same offense Chip Kelly is installing the difference was West Virginia took advantage of Smith’s accuracy and arm and threw the ball instead of rushing. Neither of the kids you are lobbying for played the competition or looked as sharp and comfortable as Smith

        • GoBirds1

          If you want to hitch your wagon to Donovan Part 2, for the next 10 years, then Smith is your guy. He will get by with all his talent but will never develop into a complete NFL QB that can take you to the promise land.

      • Richard Colton

        ohh wow. way too early to start predicting next years 4th round pick. Who knows? if 30 year olds Peters & Toddfather start acting their age, we may be looking LT in round one again. I wouldn’t rule out any premium postion in next year’s draft. 10 months is an NFL lifetime.

        • cliff henny

          aint that the truth…one week in training camp is a lifetime.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    “After practice, I asked Geathers if it’s hard letting up during these sessions.

    His response: “I don’t let up. I never let up. Never will. I’m going to finish you.”

    OK then. Moving on…”

    LMAO!!!!

    The funniest quote on Twitter today about the camp fight was someone asked who Geathers was fighting – and a reporter responded “the whole offense probably. Only then would it be a fair fight.”

    lol

    • Landsurveyor

      I would like to get that on a T-shirt.

  • http://theadulttoysstore.com/ The Toy Goddess

    “After practice, I asked Geathers if it’s hard letting up during these sessions.

    His response: “I don’t let up. I never let up. Never will. I’m going to finish you.”

    OK then. Moving on…”

    LMAO!!!!

    The funniest quote on Twitter today about the camp fight was someone asked who Geathers was fighting – and a reporter responded “the whole offense probably. Only then would it be a fair fight.”

    lol

    • Landsurveyor

      I would like to get that on a T-shirt.

  • Richard Colton

    Boykin and Kendricks are continuing to have a great camp, which means Howie continues to have a great 2011 draft.

    The really interesting thing that came out for me was the way CK shuffles the O-line. He doesn’t care about moving the entire line around if there’s an injury, as long as the top five guys are on the field.

    • Pennguino

      I hear ya. I wonder how much of the whole shift is due to there are no other tackles? Kelly is down with a back issue and Wang was hurt too.

      • Richard Colton

        right, but what surprised me most was LT/RT. If Peters gets hurt – Lane goes to LT and Herremans to RT. 3 O-line moves for one injury. Plug and play.

        • JofreyRice

          I’ll have to see that work to judge whether or not it’s a smart move. I’m kind of partial to the conventional wisdom that you’re weakening three positions with a move like that.

          It’s really going to be interesting to see what kind of success Chip has in challenging conventional wisdom the way he does.

          • Token

            Lets say the injury to Peters happens in like week 8. The line has looked like they have gelled at that point and all the sudden you want to switch everything around instead of just replacing Peters. I guess it speaks to the awful depth at tackle if their best move is to put Watkins on the field.

    • Mr. Wu

      From what I have read so far I have been getting tge impression Kendiricks hasnt been having a great camp. I have been really high on him for a long time. I hope he is a stud this year. Boykin def seems to be tearing it up though.

      • Richard Colton

        the beat guys were raving about him on Twitter today, for what its worth.

        • Mr. Wu

          Sweet glad to hear
          … I think I am the last man under the age of 40 that doesnt do twitter… i am like fred flinstone

        • Token

          Yea cuz he had a nice INT.

          The guy has the physical talent. Can he get it mentally this year. Anyone know if he came into camp any bigger?

      • Gary

        I’ve heard the opposite about Kendricks.

    • #7

      If those guys can do that in real games that would be a huge bonus

    • GoBirds1

      I think you mean the 2012 draft. If you want to give Howie the free pass on the ’10 and ’11 draft like Lurie did, thats on you. As the GM since then, he has to be accountable and why this roster is so thin on talent and depth. The Birds had 24 picks in those two years, and all that dart throwing yielded one, yes ONE starter. That is beyond pathetic and if building from the draft is part of your teams philosophy, then you are going to end up being 4-12 or something like that.

      BTW, that one starter does not even belong in the NFL, let alone starting. I am sure any Eagle fan knows who I am referencing, Kurt ‘I have been trucked again but I am going to talk like I am an all pro in the post game” Coleman.

      Thank God Howie finally looked in the mirror and realized, ‘I have no idea what I am doing in terms of talent evaluation and player selection, I better hire a bunch of football guys that do know what they are doing.’

      • Damien

        2012 draft was all him, no Gamble. Also too I love this double standard of, in 2010-2011 Howie made all decisions and AR had nothing to do with it. In 2012-2013 his assistants made all the decisions and he had nothing to do with it…

        • GoBirds1

          I did not imply anything that you just stated. 2010 thru 2012 was both AR and Howie. Period. You, like Lurie, pretend that Howie had nothing to do with ’10 and ’11, and it was all Howie in ’12 because it may turn out to be a good draft. My point has been all a long, the NFL is not where you learn how to pick talent on a trial and error basis and burying your team in the process . The top picks in ’10 and ’11 were and are horrible picks, some of which had Howie’s fingerprints all over them. And for Lurie to come out say how great Howie is at evaluating talent for the draft, not to mention the disaster signings in free agency.

      • Richard Colton

        I did. good catch – thanks GB

  • Richard Colton

    Boykin and Kendricks are continuing to have a great camp, which means Howie continues to have a great 2011 draft.

    The really interesting thing that came out for me was the way CK shuffles the O-line. He doesn’t care about moving the entire line around if there’s an injury, as long as the top five guys are on the field.

    • Pennguino

      I hear ya. I wonder how much of the whole shift is due to there are no other tackles? Kelly is down with a back issue and Wang was hurt too.

      • Richard Colton

        right, but what surprised me most was LT/RT. If Peters gets hurt – Lane goes to LT and Herremans to RT. 3 O-line moves for one injury. Plug and play.

        • JofreyRice

          I’ll have to see that work to judge whether or not it’s a smart move. I’m kind of partial to the conventional wisdom that you’re weakening three positions with a move like that.

          It’s really going to be interesting to see what kind of success Chip has in challenging conventional wisdom the way he does.

          • Token

            Lets say the injury to Peters happens in like week 8. The line has looked like they have gelled at that point and all the sudden you want to switch everything around instead of just replacing Peters. I guess it speaks to the awful depth at tackle if their best move is to put Watkins on the field.

    • Mr. Wu

      From what I have read so far I have been getting tge impression Kendiricks hasnt been having a great camp. I have been really high on him for a long time. I hope he is a stud this year. Boykin def seems to be tearing it up though.

      • Richard Colton

        the beat guys were raving about him on Twitter today, for what its worth.

        • Mr. Wu

          Sweet glad to hear
          … I think I am the last man under the age of 40 that doesnt do twitter… i am like fred flinstone

        • Token

          Yea cuz he had a nice INT.

          The guy has the physical talent. Can he get it mentally this year. Anyone know if he came into camp any bigger?

      • Gary

        I’ve heard the opposite about Kendricks.

    • #7

      If those guys can do that in real games that would be a huge bonus

    • GoBirds1

      I think you mean the 2012 draft. If you want to give Howie the free pass on the ’10 and ’11 draft like Lurie did, thats on you. As the GM since then, he has to be accountable and why this roster is so thin on talent and depth. The Birds had 24 picks in those two years, and all that dart throwing yielded one, yes ONE starter. That is beyond pathetic and if building from the draft is part of your teams philosophy, then you are going to end up being 4-12 or something like that.

      BTW, that one starter does not even belong in the NFL, let alone starting. I am sure any Eagle fan knows who I am referencing, Kurt ‘I have been trucked again but I am going to talk like I am an all pro in the post game” Coleman.

      Thank God Howie finally looked in the mirror and realized, ‘I have no idea what I am doing in terms of talent evaluation and player selection, I better hire a bunch of football guys that do know what they are doing.’

      • Damien

        2012 draft was all him, no Gamble. Also too I love this double standard of, in 2010-2011 Howie made all decisions and AR had nothing to do with it. In 2012-2013 his assistants made all the decisions and he had nothing to do with it…

        • GoBirds1

          I did not imply anything that you just stated. 2010 thru 2012 was both AR and Howie. Period. You, like Lurie, pretend that Howie had nothing to do with ’10 and ’11, and it was all Howie in ’12 because it may turn out to be a good draft. My point has been all a long, the NFL is not where you learn how to pick talent on a trial and error basis and burying your team in the process . The top picks in ’10 and ’11 were and are horrible picks, some of which had Howie’s fingerprints all over them. And for Lurie to come out say how great Howie is at evaluating talent for the draft, not to mention the disaster signings in free agency.

      • Richard Colton

        I did. good catch – thanks GB

  • #7

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk_-XWpUFmU

    That’s all I’m hearing on here…and some crying lol. Vick hasn’t won yet, but it sure looks like he’s liking that system.

    Brains and Accuracy, get the ball out quick, etc etc. Vick is doing that better than the Great Foles. Accept that and support the Eagles. If Foles wins, GO FOLES, but he’s got to win the job, like Vick, and I think Vick snatches this job with two hands.

  • EaglefaninAZ

    Really not liking Kelly using Jackson on special teams anymore. Seems downright foolish now that Maclin is gone. Am I the only one here thinking that way?

  • EaglefaninAZ

    Really not liking Kelly using Jackson on special teams anymore. Seems downright foolish now that Maclin is gone. Am I the only one here thinking that way?

  • #7

    OLD #7 out there rippin it up

  • #7

    OLD #7 out there rippin it up

  • Damien

    There again:

    QB: Vick looked far superior again. Foles and Barkley had up and down days.
    RB: All look good, who can tell?
    FB/TE: Iguana man or whatever his name is has to be first cut.
    WR: Desean looks great, Damaris struggled at first but caught on eventually, Shepard was quiet, Avant should start, Momah had a solid day
    TE: Casey’s blocking is good, Celek is cut worthy with all his drops, Carrier looked good again
    OL: Didn’t see much, however Tobin looked good again, Bam Bam needs time, Menkin and Watkins had strong days, Kelce looked as always very good
    DL: Geathers looked great, Thorton looked good, Cox killed it, Sopoaga was quiet, Logan seemingly got hurt but played well before it, King had a great day
    LB: Ryans and Kendrichs look great, Casey and Cheney worry me a lot as backups, Cole can’t cover but can rush great, Barwin looks good, and Graham showed off today, Hunt looked bad
    CB: Hughes stole the show, Boykin looked great again, Williams is struggling, Lindley should be cut, Poyer looked alright
    S: Wolff was great today, Anderson might start he’s playing that good, Allen played well overall, Phillips is an issue in coverage, Coleman is eh.

    Overall, best day of practice so far imo.

    • Token

      Shame about Hunt. Thought he could have been a damn good end in the 4-3. I think he will be a decent player wherever he ends up.

  • Damien

    There again:

    QB: Vick looked far superior again. Foles and Barkley had up and down days.
    RB: All look good, who can tell?
    FB/TE: Iguana man or whatever his name is has to be first cut.
    WR: Desean looks great, Damaris struggled at first but caught on eventually, Shepard was quiet, Avant should start, Momah had a solid day
    TE: Casey’s blocking is good, Celek is cut worthy with all his drops, Carrier looked good again
    OL: Didn’t see much, however Tobin looked good again, Bam Bam needs time, Menkin and Watkins had strong days, Kelce looked as always very good
    DL: Geathers looked great, Thorton looked good, Cox killed it, Sopoaga was quiet, Logan seemingly got hurt but played well before it, King had a great day
    LB: Ryans and Kendrichs look great, Casey and Cheney worry me a lot as backups, Cole can’t cover but can rush great, Barwin looks good, and Graham showed off today, Hunt looked bad
    CB: Hughes stole the show, Boykin looked great again, Williams is struggling, Lindley should be cut, Poyer looked alright
    S: Wolff was great today, Anderson might start he’s playing that good, Allen played well overall, Phillips is an issue in coverage, Coleman is eh.

    Overall, best day of practice so far imo.

    • Token

      Shame about Hunt. Thought he could have been a damn good end in the 4-3. I think he will be a decent player wherever he ends up.

  • southy

    Passion Pit huh? Interesting choice there Chipper.

  • southy

    Passion Pit huh? Interesting choice there Chipper.

  • #7

    Cream rises to the top

    • Johnny Domino

      Be sure to check your expiration dates.

      • #7

        No need to

        • Johnny Domino

          Regardless if Vick is the man of the moment, pretty sure Chip is looking for the man of the next ten years, who is likely not on the roster, and is probably not Vick in any case.

          • #7

            I really don’t care about that. Why can’t we focus on 2013? I take that you do not want to win

          • Johnny Domino

            Ridiculous.

            You need to do both.

          • aub32

            There’s no guarantee any player will ever develope. The best thing to do is assemble the best 53 players possible and start the best ones. Why is that such a hard concept? Why should a guy start because he might one day “with playing time” become better than the starter. I thought playing time was something that was earned by being the best on your team at that position. Now if we are 1-8 to start the season, then by all means see what some ohers can do, but that’s because the starters have already proven they aren’t up to the task. Who chooses to start their season with their number 2 player at any position?

          • #7

            ????

          • Johnny Domino

            I don’t dislike Vick (really!) but I don’t think he is running this team at 40, let alone after his contract is up. Maybe it’s the management in me, but if there is no clear #1 at the end of camp I need to know if you have a more than temporary fix. Besides, Vick had his greatest success here in relief of Kolb, give him a chip on his shoulder.

          • #7

            I beg to differ. It’s your right though

          • Johnny Domino

            See, that wasn’t so hard.

          • #7

            ………

          • aub32

            I’m pretty sure Kelly has made it clear he’s looking for the guys that can win games now. We can find out who can win games down the road as time comes.

          • Andy124

            I don’t practice the “In Chip we trust” religion, but I think some of what he says is bound to be true.

            My hunch is that if he thinks he’ll score 1 more point over the course of an entire season with QB A than QB B with no extra turnovers, he’s going with QB A regardless of age, potential or anything else.

            That’s not how I would do it, that’s just my impression of Chip.

          • aub32

            Well he is one of the highest paid coaches in the league. So I’m guessing he knows something about football.

          • Andy124

            Nah. He doesn’t even know that the refs won’t let him run a hurry-up offense. /s

  • Johnny Domino

    Q: Can a brother get a taco tomorrow? Maybe avocado with a whole grain shell?

  • #7

    “Vick gets the first-team reps during 7-on-7s and connects with Jackson time after time after time.”

    Vick to Jackson will be back this year with a vengeance

    • cliff henny

      even if foles wins job, sounds like he’s in for big year. heard just as many bombs being caught by him from foles as vick. forget where i read it, but reporter was asked who’s having best camp and he answered it boykins and stated had to take jax out of it, he’s just heads and shoulders above everyone.

      • aub32

        I think Jackson is in for a huge year. I can wait to see him making plays and lining up all over the field.

        • cliff henny

          yup. talked to a friend who went to pratice, said it’s not even fair to compare qb comp when one is throwing to jax or evaluate secondary. jax looks locked in, man against boys…hope we see him dancing from the 10 yardline in about a dozen times this year! i hate that when any other player does it…but love when jax does it!

          • aub32

            I know right. I loved his Nestea plunge into the endzone against the cowboys. He should’ve gotten a sponsorship deal from that. My only concern is how well he can hold up touching the ball moe than 5-7 times a game, and what kind of motions/shifts kelly can throw in to keep him from getting pressed.

          • nicksaenz1

            As long as he holds the ball long enough to cross the goal line!

      • #7

        I don’t think Foles can get it to #10 consistently in a game. Whole different deal

        • cliff henny

          by all reports, foles has not had near the issue getting the ball downfield like he did last year. as worries go for qbs, bombs to jax is about 25th on my list. suck the secondary up but gut pounding runs by shady and brown, along with short passes, and jax will be running wild 30 yards downfield. watch oregon games, about once a quarter they’d go deep and the rec’r would be open by 15 yrds(or eagles game last yr and picture opposing TEs running seam routes)

      • nicksaenz1

        Good, I picked up D-Jax in fantasy in the 6th round of a 2-keeper league that’s PPR. I’m expecting some bubble screens and the occasional deep ball.

  • barneygoogle

    Yea, but let’s see if Geathers shows up during games. Otherwise he might as well be fighting Jerry Sandusky in the shower room.

  • barneygoogle

    Yea, but let’s see if Geathers shows up during games. Otherwise he might as well be fighting Jerry Sandusky in the shower room.

  • Richard Colton

    Best thing about Momah being in camp is no more fans begging for the Eagles to sign Plaxico so we have a “tall receiver in the red zone.”

    • #7

      lol good one

  • EaglePete

    Im kind of amazed people think the Vick/Kelly duo will work magic this season. Cmon really. I get the rooting for Vick and seeing hes the better player over Foles thing but what I refuse to buy is some kind of special season lying ahead for this team. Sorry, I dont think thats happening, even maxed out positive thinking gets me 9-7 and a playoff loss. Thats wishful thinking at best as well. This is why so many fans want a different QB because whats the point. I know that sounds like typical negative Philly fan, but its not, its realistic expectations coming from a 4-12 team to just show some improvement to 6-8 win territory, hopefully over 5. What happens if Vick goes 8-8, stays healthy for the season what did you accomplish? Getting rest of team up to speed, still need to develop a QB or find one. Or is then the thinking that Vick leads this team to a superbowl year 2 under Kelly. Again, cmon really. I dont want to wait longer as a fan for this rebuilding to start and actually rebuild instead of rehash.

    • #7

      Why not? They haven’t even played a game yet man. This is the NFL and every year is different. I don’t get how you’re able to predict what will happen before a game is played. Please teach me that skill

      • EaglePete

        why not what? Vick has played lots of games, this will be the 4th coach that thinks they can make it work. Whats making it work, playoffs, mediocrity? We all want a superbowl no? I agree every yr is different, I agree bad teams can get good. I think this team has the players on offense to show some spark, defense is highly doubtful it will be championship caliber. What I am saying is, why prolong the rebuild, thats my issue with even bringing Vick back onto this team. I was plenty hopeful prior to last season, actually wanting Vick to do well and rooting for this team. Hard to not be discouraged kidding myself that it will be different this time, I just refuse to do that again. Good luck with that optimism. Mine lies in the player development, draft picks and coaching scheme, not just the QB position. Id prefer to do that with a young QB is all since, I dunno, its the most important position in the game.

        • aub32

          So let me ask you this. What QB would have taken last year’s team to the superbowl? Do you think there is a QB outside of Brady and Rodgers that can take this team to the superbowl> I find it funny how fans keep blaming the SB drought on Vick. I must have forgotten about all the Lombardi trophies we were collecting before he became the starting QB.

          • EaglePete

            I wanted Vick to start last season because I thought he gave the team the best chance to win. I thought we had some semblance of a team left to have a shot in the playoffs. We were all way off on that of course. What are you talking about, fans blaming Vick for SB drought. Nobody is doing that, its more like, lets go in a new direction since we dont think he can or will get that done. Its not like he hasnt had a chance yet on this team. Most other teams would have moved on already, hes getting way more than a 2nd chance here hence all the irritation and negativity around him from this fan base.

          • aub32

            What’s the point of a new direction just for the sake of going a new direction? I don’t get why someone would argue putting a worse QB on the field just because he’s new. That doesn’t make sense. Now if Foles wins the job, then fine. But I don’t get the argument of putting a worse product out on the field just to see what happens. Everyone thought the 49ers would be terrible with Alex Smith 2 years ago. What Happened? And don’t give me that defense crap because they had the same team the year before minus Aldon Smith. I’m sure if I told you Flacco would go through both Brady and Manning you would think that’s insane too. I don’t expect Vick to be a top 5 QB. I think he will be better than Foles and can win games. As Eagles fans shouldn’t that be what we want? To win games? How can we expect to have the best chance at winning games when we intentionally put lesser players on the field. Now if you’re ok with losing and sacrificing the entire season go root for the Jags. Don’t expect us that actually want to enjoy the season by watching our team compete to the best of its ability to want anything less.

          • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

            You’re making the assumption that Vick puts is in a much better situation to win games than Foles. Nothing that we’ve seen in camp or in their play last year has shown that. Both have had good days and bad days, with the slight edge to Vick. That doesn’t mean Vick will go 10-6 and Foles will go 0-16. A 6-10 season with a younger QB is much more valuable than an 8-8 season with a QB who’s gone next year anyways.

    • #7

      I get that you’re being “realistic”, but to already come into the season defeated..that’s discouraging. It’s your right though

  • Chip Henderson

    That’s part of the problem with this team, the leaders of this team are Vick, Jackson, and McCoy. They’re talented, but all they cause is drama and its irritating. Throw the while Cooper issue on top of it and it makes me want to cheer for another team. Every year this team is surrounded by drama

    • aub32

      Good riddance.

  • Johnny Domino

    Have seen the Johnson/Kelly comparison before, I think I would sign up for that.

  • JofreyRice

    I still remember PK saying he’d draft Tebow in the first round, even without knowing what position he’d play him at, and the line “Cleveland, you have your matinee idol” when the Browns drafted Brady Quinn. I listen to his rumors, because he’s definitely connected, but his analysis is like a 3 day old Italian hoagie in the refrigerator–wilted lettuce, oil all soaked into the bread, turning it into paste; there are much better writers that don’t have half the cred.