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  • Max Lightfoot

    He is the key to the 2013 season.

  • MV7

    Yes! He’s back

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    ???

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    I got that from csn-philly.com. Geoff moesher article about the qb battle Day 1,

  • Mr. Wu

    Jarvis Jenkins suspended 4 games….starting with game one at RFK :)

  • Andy124

    Mosher had different stats for Vick than Ranaan (14/20 vice 22/27). That’s a bigger difference than I would expect. I wonder what’s up with that?

    I’m inclined to trust Jordan’s stat line. McLane reported the same as Ranaan, but I don’t know if he was just repeating Jordan’s numbers.

  • Nick Falana

    “We’re talking about practice right now.” God I love this guy.

    • Nicholas Disilvestro

      He should hire Iverson as his practice consultant

  • cliff henny

    ah, sal’s just an ESPN mouthpiece now. vick moves the needle. build him up now, that moves the needle, and if foles beats him out, they’ll of had a month of build up. just being in SC and everyone knowing i’m huge eagles fan, i get hourly updates from friends watching that bs station.

  • GEagle

    the words of our beloved leader…WIN THE DAY MOFO!!!!!! lol

  • Maggie

    Endless gabble about Vick/Foles. Not one word about how the DEFENDER, Ryans, intercepted the pass? You know, trying to win HIS job? Amazing. Looking at all these comments one would think the offense was the only team on the field!

    • GEagle

      hahaha you think Ryans is trying to win a job away from Jake Knott and Casey Mathews?

  • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

    Forgot he was our PR guy. Oh wait, he’s a football a player. Who cares.

  • devCal

    F the brits!! i thought we kicked their ass and sent them packin.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    Wow….Vick fangirls are really sensitive…..is it that time of the month again? Thanks for very intelligent, well thought out response. I’m sure you put a lot of time and effort into coming up with this brilliant reply. Childish name calling never sounded so good. Have a blessed night.

    • illadelphia21

      You don’t require an intelligent post/reply. I have some but on this one and for your comments…simple is best. I gotta call it like I see it and more importantly, like it is. And if you didn’t just start commenting on this site a spouting out bullish!t, you would know how I truly feel about Vick and our QB situation.
      I would love to have an intelligent conversation w/ you in the future, however if your previous post to BBS are an indication of what’s to come, then I think it’ll prove kind of difficult. Yet if you want to continue down this path, then why not just go on GCobb w/ the other ridiculous, pompous, A-holes!!! Despite our arguments on this site and no matter how heated they may get we do try bring it back round to something better than what you did to BBS. But I digress!!!

      • Nicholas Disilvestro

        What did I do? She said a bunch of writers were biased against Vick. I told her they weren’t and if they were either provide proof or stop saying it because its utterly ridiculous. Are they biased against him? If they are provide proof and I will apologize to your girlfriend for you. If not, do us both a favor and shut up.

        • illadelphia21

          Haha girlfriend funny. It’s the Internet you idiot…how do you even know if BBS is actually a girl!!! But that’s neither here nor there. I eluded to this before, but do me a favor and take your jackass-news to another site. But I know you won’t and that request is just as ridiculous as telling someone a blog site to shut up!!! SMH

          • Nicholas Disilvestro

            “SMH”…you even talk like a ghetto idiot. I could give a rats ass less what you think, you’re some guy on the internet trying to white knight some girl he never met in his life on an Eagles blog.. That’s really pathetic.

            Also still waiting for you or anyone else to show that the reporters I mentioned are biased against Vick. I guess I can expect more childish name calling instead right? You can’t prove anything she said was true, so you just start stupid arguments with people then sit here and act like you are some kind of moderator on here. Get a life you smacked ass.

          • illadelphia21

            Ghetto idiot…interesting! It’s funny where you’re taking this but by all means, please proceed.

          • Nicholas Disilvestro

            https://twitter.com/illadelphia21

            your page speaks for itself.

          • illadelphia21

            Wow. You got me there! Except I don’t have a twitter account, I don’t keep cash on me, let alone take pictures of singles, don’t smoke and haven’t in a while (although I think it should be legalized), and what else was the last thing…oh…I’m not white. Good try though. And thanks for that. I laughed so hard. Can’t believe people make profiles like that.

          • Nicholas Disilvestro

            lol, i’m sure thats not you. ….just somebody else with the same exact handle that loves the eagles. what a coincidence. im done. really, have a good night, and i’ll see you on gcobbs website.

          • illadelphia21

            Ok. Like I said…you got me. Hilarious!

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Hobe Cryant lol that’s a funny 1

          • illadelphia21

            Had to read through those god awful tweets to see what you were talking bout…but yeah that one was priceless. I was going to finally get on Twitter, cause I can’t watch training camp, but 24/7 and BGN has me covered. So I think I’ll join just to follow this dude…uh…I mean myself, according to Nicholas! Gotta come up w/ a new “handle” though. LMBO!

        • illadelphia21

          Still SMH…nice edit. I also love how you try to feign innocence while still doing your d-bag ish…F’n classic. Also love how regular commenters can’t have a job and how some lives only revolve around fighting w/ people on the Internet. Cause that’s obviously the case when people take a little time out of their day and happen to disagree w/ one another. Nice!

          • Nicholas Disilvestro

            Fuck you

          • illadelphia21

            So I guess that’s the intelligence you were so indignantly touting!!! Lmbo.

          • illadelphia21

            Oops…my bad, thought I was responding to the dude I was having a little tiff w/. But instead it’s you…guest! Hilarious.

  • illadelphia21

    Just so I can hide my bias for Vick…lol…he also over three several deep balls. Although I’d take a deep over throw than a deep under throw, if I had to choose, any day of the week.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    cool thanks

  • Andy124

    Don’t even bother.

    Hell, McLane spent most of the offseason writing like Foles stole his girlfriend in highschool.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    *rolls eyes*

    That article (which I’m sure you didn’t read) said basically the same thing this article said – though he has it pretty even and Tim give a slight edge to Foles.

    In other words there was no real stand out – pads Sunday…then this will be interesting.

  • JofreyRice

    thanks for the kind words illadelph!

    Yeah, I’m not big on Nick Foles’ deep ball either. He threw a lot of wobblers on bombs last year, and he didn’t look all that great to the intermediate level of the defense, either. If you listen to someone like Jimmy Kempski, Foles has improved a lot, but I’m a little skeptical of that until I see it firsthand. I like the way Foles can stand in the pocket and deliver in the face of pressure, and I actually like the way he throws on the run, but I think he’s shown a lot of similar problems to Vick–carelessness with the football, bad decision-making; of course, the caveat to that is that Foles was starting in his rookie season, these are pathological problems with Vick. The difference is that he doesn’t have a cannon for an arm the way Vick does.

    I think the success of the running game is going to determine the team’s ability to put up points, under either Foles or Vick. If the running game is as effective as it could be, I think those 20-30 throws a game might be a lot easier throws than they would be under someone like Reid.

    A lot of the talking heads use the term “shot play”, to describe those long, downfield throws that either produce points directly, or stretch the defense vertically, and decompress from the LOS. I don’t think Foles will win the QB competition if he can’t show Kelly he can make the throws those “shot plays” need to work.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    LOL.

  • GEagle

    …Tweeted Marcus Vick to all 4 of his followers!

  • Philly0312

    Well…Foles only had 1 incompletion with the starters…4 total. You can’t do much better…meanwhile vick was picked on his first pass.

  • GEagle

    Day 1 of my Foles WIPES the Floor with Vick at Camp campaign Started today! and while St. Nick was off to a modest start, none the less…ADVANTAGE FOLES!!!

    If I get to say this 20 more times in the next 3 weeks, BYE BYE YOU KNOW WHO!!!!!!

  • GEagle

    WIN THE DAY Colt!….WIN THE DAY!!!

  • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

    My guess would be that if Foles were to win the job you would see an offense like Houston. Run heavy zone blocking scheme with a lot of play action passes. There are lots of variations of the IZR/OZR you can run without a mobile quarterback, but you won’t be able to leave the weak side defensive end unblocked like you would otherwise. You would at least need to get a chip on him from someone, probably the H-back.

    Houston’s offense meets mixed reviews. It’s built for playing with a lead.

    I think no matter what, even if Vick wins, Kelly will still have to dial back the IZR/OZR, because you simply cannot run a ton of plays designed for Vick to potentially take a hit.

  • GEagle

    Much to do about nothing In my humble Op…Different packages for difdferent guys in constraints of an offense..
    ..
    Vick gets the Reid option packages, Foles will get a Bryce and Shady two back Pistol package, playing off double play action passes to quick screens and what not….

    Chip liked to run and had the personal to Zone read in college out of a single back set with his QBs mobility…with Foles in the game, he compensates by going two back ZR (Foles will have to keep it and run 4 yards occasionally), but it will mostly go to the backs and play off double play action….Go listen to Billy Lazor’s interview from yesterday

    I posed this theory personally to Baldi, Jaws and coach Vermiel, and I pretty much stumped all 3, none could disagree….If I KNOW THIS, then I think its safe to say Chip knows this<<<

  • GEagle

    Foles will get two and 3 back pistol sets…Vick will just get Chips universal formation shotgun(single back)….Different packages for different QBs in constraints of 1 offense, which is sure to feature some Texans playbook..

    The Houston Texans will have an Influence on both our offense and Defense…Coincidently we poached players on both sides of the ball from them

  • Johnny Domino

    Sale at Sconces R Us

  • GEagle

    double edged sword my friend….If Vick was 24years old an Mobile, I would give him the advantage….But I give an edge to youth, maliability, not having to break as many bad habbits to Foles, and atleast IMO that Cancels out the Vick advantage and puts them on an even playing field…
    ….
    No one would ever take a mobile guy over a more accurate guy who commands the offense better. If both were even, yes Mobility would break a tie….But I think AGE makes it not so black and white in our particular scenario…Maybe Im wrong, and Chip doesn’t give two craps about the future and he is all in from Right now…but I don’t see that as Wise, thus I don’t see that as CHIP..Just my interpretation, definitely not Scripture!…we call that “Tenatively written in sand” around these parts lol
    ,..
    Its Friday, Im way to baked…Don’t mind the silliness and trolling.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    I’m sticking with Ranaan’s numbers b/c he was the one who did it consistently during OTA’s and Mini-Camp.

    All the numbers are unofficial so it’s an educated guessing game regardless of who’s doing it.

  • http://www.philthycanuck.com/ Adam

    Tim, I thought Chip Kelly said the QB competition is open. Would be pretty hypocritical if he didn’t try too. This guy is a fraud.

  • GEagle

    I don’t give Ranaan enough credit..he is much better than what most of this city has to offer, and I always forget to mention him when I give props to the Sheil,Tim’s,Caplans, and Cossell’s of Philly media

  • Philly0312

    Id say the encouraging thing is it appears both are playing at a decently high level without pads. Hopefully this competition allows them to raise each others game and give us a guy who can play top 15 qb. If they do that I think we can take the division with a top notch ground game.

  • GEagle

    good stuff…cant really disagree…but I have seen reports now that on atleast two days, Foles has had the throw of the day, and they were both Bombs…Not saying our problems are solved, but its a start for the kid…Keep moving in the right direction and there is a chance he gets where we need him to be for September

  • illadelphia21

    I listen to Kempski on everything but Foles. I think he’s “team Foles”. And in my experience, most “Team Foles” guys will take 1-3 or 1-4 or even 1-1 wounded duck WRs bail outs, as proof of him either completely having fixed his deep ball issues or making improvement.
    People try to drop reasons like footwork and mechanics, but I don’t buy it. Any QB’s footwork is going to be hindered during live action when bodies are laying on the ground in front of you and and mechanics are going to be screwed w/ when defenders are in your face. So if your struggling or have the same inconsistency or wounded duck action w/ your deep ball in shorts, then your going to have it (possibly worse) when live action starts. Either you have the arm or you don’t. And a deep route takes longer than 1.5 (for a free blitzer) or 2 seconds (for a hindered pass rush) to develop.
    The same things you like about Foles, I like. I just really don’t like the other parts of his game more so.
    I think the running game can help w/ the intermediate throws, but as I think you said also, w/o the threat of the deep ball, the D is just going to stack the box. Yes DJax is as good of a deep threat as there is in this league, but if I’m a D-Coord, and I know I’m facing a QB who can’t consistently throw deep and allows for my defender to catch up to the pass…then I’m willing to take that risk of operating w/ more single press coverage on Djax and use the rest of my guys to stack the box and watch the TE seam.
    I think most of us here, have lived long enough to see decades of football where teams, for various reasons, have no deep threat. And we’ve also seen how defenses playing those teams dominate them and have a pretty easy day. It even happened as recently as last yr w/ the Jets. Would have happened w/ the Vikings too, but AP is A F’n monster!!!
    So this, coupled w/ how bad I think our D is as of now makes me very concerned that we can’t win a shoot out or put up enough points to win a decent amount of games. If anyone can elevate my concerns w/ actual logic and not just Dick riding Foles or hating on Vick…Help me out.
    BTW…Coop has just now made the squad w/ Benn going down.

  • illadelphia21

    Wouldn’t “Foles Wiping The Floor Camp…” And modest start be a direct contradiction? Just wondering.

  • illadelphia21

    Yeah except today the throw of the day really should have just been the catch of the day. From every respectable source on twitter, it was all Desean bailing him out.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    You’re avoiding the fact that you’re lying about reporters in this town having some kind of bias against Vick because the ones I named said Foles looked like he had a better day at practice.

    Please do not respond to me anymore, you are incredibly biased and you really just seem to make things up if anyone happens to disagree with you.

  • Maggie

    That sconce thing is getting a little old.

  • Johnny Domino

    Suspect attendance at OTAs (and pissy about it), then hurt the first practice? Let me just say I may need a pick 6 or something before all is forgiven.

    And not in the preseason.

  • GEagle

    Cant say that about the way Foles was throwing on the last day of OTAs that made Vick give the infamous PRINT IT, answer

  • GEagle

    WIN THE DAY!!!….win 20 of the NEXT 21 days, and you have WIPED THE FLOOR WITH HIM!

  • GEagle

    up until two months ago Foles could never play for Chip he would be traded, and Vick was born to play in this offense….all of the sudden they all just magically switched to team foles and became bias against Vick? what a joke!

  • Andy124

    “you’re lying about certain reporters”
    Small point, I’m convinced she completely believes what she’s saying. Therefore, not lying.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    *rolls eyes, puts head through wall*

    You have no basis for you claims of bias at the qb position. Reporters observe practice and relay what they see to us. With the exception of Sal Pal, most reporters today seem to have said Foles looked like he had a better day. I didn’t even comment on anything by Sal Pal (I didn’t hear him on the radio or read any articles by him today), so please stop putting words in my mouth.

    You just seem to outright dismiss anything any reporter says that you don’t agree with. You said a few comments above me that you just don’t trust Geoff Mosher. Then you claimed Rebuen Frank and Jeff McLane are biased against Vick, without providing a shred of evidence. Yes, reporters say critical things about players. That is part of their job. It doesn’t matter if Foles, Vick or Jesus Christ is playing qb, they will get criticized.

    Maybe in your world that is biased, but for those of us grounded in reality its just reporters doing there job. If its the first preseason game and Vick scores 3 tds and Foles falls flat on his face, they will say that to. There isn’t any bias. They report the facts, even if you don’t like them

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    I really never thought about it that way lol.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    You like to hear yourself talk don’t you.

    What you’re saying doesn’t even make sense. I pointed out an article where actual FACTS were written not opinion masked as fact which is what Mosher, and Reuben routinely write and McLane isn’t much better.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    Yawn

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Most intelligent thing you’ve said so far.

  • Nicholas Disilvestro

    That’s a biased statement. You’re not a fair and objective poster. I automatically dismiss that comment.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    You have similar concerns with Barkley as well. His arm isn’t there.

    With that said I think Chip’s offense is predicated on the short intermediate passes and running the ball (all at lightning speed) so the lack of a deep threat probably won’t be as big of a concern as you think.

    Then the question becomes – what about DeSean – but DeSean can rack up yards after the catch so he can still be useful on those intermediate throws (just not in the middle of the field, too little for that.).

  • illadelphia21

    Yeah I can see what your saying bout Desean and intermediate routes/throw.

    And yes I have concerns for both Foles and Barkely’s arm strength and our offense. I’ve Seen too many offenses that can’t go deep of give the threat of a deep ball and too many defenses have field days cause of it, over the years.

    Yes Vick has a cannon but that still doesn’t mean he’s great or anything. And yes I’m a fan of Vick or was up until last year. So I would want him to start, but it’s like picking the lesser evil at this point. Simply said I just want to see the guy that can give us the best chance to win start (which i think is Vick) so we can get through the year and hopefully make a play for Bridgewater.

  • illadelphia21

    Oh I almost forgot…since I took exception and called out the guy that you were having a disagreement w/…that makes you my girlfriend now!!! Lol.

    Oh well…gotta go and set up more profiles pics of weed and stacks of singles, while I keep bleaching my skin and stringing together incoherent gibberish under the guide of conversation.

  • illadelphia21

    Don’t kill my dream! :-) Yeah I I know, you’re right. Just can’t bring myself to hope we lose. Maybe Howie can find a way to mortgage the future…doubt it though.

  • ICDogg

    Some of us on the Eagles message board were pushing to make a trade to get Peters from Buffalo (who was in a holdout situation) for months before it actually happened. When it actually happened we were ecstatic about it.