Center City Bar Cancels Popular Live Music Night Because It’s “Thugged Out”

The Back In Time Soul Sessions at Sansom Street’s Time restaurant were easily the most popular jazz jam in Philadelphia. The weekly Monday night shows, hosted by talented Colombian-born pianist and Temple graduate Luke Carlos O’Reilly (pictured), brought out the city’s best players and large crowds of the most discerning listeners. But this week, Time pulled the plug on the series.

From O’Reilly’s Facebook page:

Back in Time Sessions on Mondays at Time Midtown are no longer. The powers that be feel that the night is too ‘thugged’ out. I’m going to keep my opinion about that to myself.

Of course, Facebook being Facebook, others have not kept their opinions to themselves, and O’Reilly’s post has over 130 comments ranging from the ubiquitous “WTF?” to statements comparing Time management to the Gestapo. Former Inquirer music critic Tom Moon declared this a “huge loss to our city.”

And Anthony Tidd, the Kimmel Center’s Creative Music Program Director, had this to say:

…it is blatantly obvious to a 5 year old, that when “they” use the word thug, that “they” are not talking about members of the Gambino family, the IRA, the Russian Mafia, Columbian drug cartel or the Taliban. They mean black people from North or West Philly.

The bad news came down from Time GM Terrance Leach. “He’s said it before,” O’Reilly told me. “Says it was too much of a ‘thug’ vibe. Crazy.”

I called Leach to find out if by “thugs” he meant black people. He evaded the question and pointed to “an incident” in front of the club during Monday’s show but then declined to offer details. It turns out that someone pulled a gun on a Time bouncer, based on multiple accounts on O’Reilly’s page.

Leach doesn’t deny using the word “thug” but claims that he didn’t cancel Soul Sessions because the shows were “thugged out” but because sales just weren’t there. “They brought out a lot of people,” says Leach of O’Reilly’s jams. “But those people weren’t buying anything.”

PHOTO: Howard Pitkow

  • barrygster

    Please stop with the constant race baiting.

  • Allison Strader-Barnes

    What a shame. This city needs more jazz..not less and that is a very talented group of young musicians. I’ve been to Time on Mondays and I found the vibe not the least bit intimidating or thuggish even though my husband and I are probably 20 years older that the average person there, but that’s the beauty of jazz…

  • Lor Song

    Soul Session is a great party and the city definitely needs more jazz events but at the same time I agree with Leach from a business aspect. If the people coming to the party are not buying drinks then it does not support the club which trickles down to the promoters. Therefore, the overall community of musicians and music-lovers suffer. So if you like a particular club/party support it by buying a drink, bring friends and don’t complain about paying a cover. Think of the over-all picture. The “Thug” comment… your in Philadelphia so get accustom to it because its part of the city lifestyle and history.

  • vceross

    Thugs come in every color. They pull guns on doormen. Anthony Tidd suggesting that “thug” means “black” strikes me as the most racist moment in this entire piece. His attempt to race-bait, and the Inquirer’s adolescent effort to facilitate that, are shameful. If any of you cares about jazz in Philly, why don’t you try to stir up business for it rather than attempting to instigate nastiness and division? Nobody in Phil needs or wants this trifling attitude. Grow up.

    • Korey Riker

      Who are you!?!?!?!

    • Anthony Tidd

      Vceross – Barrygster, Though, to be honest I find your comments to be somewhat asinine, I am (out of courtesy) going to respond anyway, because this is a public forum, and I wouldn’t want anybody to read your misrepresentations of my comment, and take them as gospel.

      First I would say that you should read my entire comment on Luke’s page, and not the out of context quote referenced above. As is the case with the media, soundbites or quotes tend to sensationalize.


      1. Contrary to popular belief, and your assertions, is not racist to talk about race. Race is a real phenomonen that we all encounter on a daily basis.

      So is Sexism, Genderism, Classism, etc. We live in a society where these things exist, and have historically been used to benefit one group over another. Read any history book to verify this.

      Thus, these isms shape daily events, and the actions of our fellow city dwellers (positively and negatively)…..So let’s do away with the ill-conceived concept of “race-baiting”.

      The fact that management could not come up with an alternative reason for using the term “thugged out” proves that I was right!

      These phenomena do fine existing all on their own, promoted by those that they benefit, without the need to be baited by those that they don’t! You need only read the news; LGBT rights being debated (like there’s even a debate?), Men of color being disproportionately being incarcerated, The occupy wall st movement and half the European union up in arms over big bank bailouts, The number of rapes that occur per year in the US, and mass protest in India on this matter.

      These facts should tell you all of these isms exist independently of being promoted via some sort of baiting promotional campaign.

      2. Next, I can’t comment on you personally, as were quick to do with me, because I do not know you…..but I can say that, in all likelihood, you are not in a position to say that I am in anyway promoting any kind of racial (or any other) division with the jazz scene or in Philadelphia. If anything, the exact opposite is true. Don’t take my word for it. Go out and do your own research……Google me!

      3. It is a fact that Time’s management either; a. Made a bad judgement, or b. Are basing their assessment of this event on the wrong criteria.

      Why do I say this?

      I say this because it is a basic tenant of business that public relations, advertising and investment are essential to growing your market. This is why a company might choose to spend 20% of it’s revenues on advertising, or special promotional events.

      Why do I mention this? Because no matter what the management of this establishment says, they know, and their patrons know that this event was consistently their most successful night, in terms of attendance.

      I have been going to Time for a long “Time” and I can tell you, that the most people I have ever seen in there were always on a Monday night for this event!

      Saying that “crowd A” doesn’t buy drinks is a cop-out. “Crowd A” are in your establishment to watch the band (who you pay less than $200 to perform). “Crowd A” shows up with money in their wallets. It’s your job as the promoter/venue owner to figure out how to get them to spend it. Many venues can’t even get the crowd there in the first place. If they are habitually patronizing your bar, you are already ahead of the game!

      Besides this, I happen to know from attending this night on multiple occasions that they have had great nights, in terms of sales, and not so great nights, but they have had few nights where they didn’t make a profit (based on their very low entertainment overhead)!

      • vfiorillo

        Anthony: I’m not sure how you can say that your quote was taken out of context. You posted your comment in a discussion about management canceling the night because it was thugged out. I used a portion of that comment (yes, a sensational portion!) that accurately reflects your opinion about management’s actions, and I included that portion in an article about the same exact subject. Out of context would be more like if Time got hit with a racial discrimination suit by one of its employees in six months, and I pulled your quote from this discussion into an article about that suit. That’s what out of context is.

        • Anthony Tidd

          Hey Victor, thanks so much for bringing visibility to this topic, regarding the cancelation of this jam session (one of the few left in Philly). In my opinion, for so many people, and for so many reasons, it was important to Philadelphia.

          Now regarding my “out of context” comment, which I made in reply to Vcerros; All quotes are by nature out of context, because they do not include the portions which came before or after them.

          I of course realize that this is unaviodable when writing an article which references various people’s FB comments. I was not saying that you “took the quote out of context”, in order to present my opinion as something other than it was.

          In this particular case, as I said, the comment was sensational, which may or may not lead the reader to conclude that the rest of the post was, which is why I invited Vcerros to read the original comment in it’s entirety. I felt that this may have given him/her a more full understanding of the point being made.

      • barrygster

        I cant read your entire post, but is the one doing the constant race baiting that I am sick of.

        • Anthony Tidd


  • Jaguar Wright

    This Jaguar Wright.. I have attended the “Back in Time” jams many times. I have referred people to attend the jams many times as well. There were problems regarding the attendance; but it had nothing to do with consumers not buying drinks. I’ve spoken with former employees of this establishment; and they all but flat out said the management staff at the club are a bunch of racists. Trying to be politically correct by blaming the issue on lack of sales is tacky! How many times did I go there prepared to spend my and support the night; and have to wait sometimes up to 30 mins to get a drink, after i performed with the band. Their service was poor, snotty, and over priced! But, let’s not start getting into the truth now! It might ruffle a few feathers! The truth is they were looking for a reason to end the night so they could redecorate their consumer base; and use the money made from the jam to do so. For crying out loud! Woody’s is more forgiving; which btw is just around the corner in the gayborhood. Karma is real…this venue will experience the effects of it…and no one will care. Then they’ll know what a mistake they made. Until then the management should just not say anything else in defense, and at least have the dignity to thank us all for all the free promotion we gave their club. Those fools never even bought me a drink for blessing their venue with my voice. These club owners in Philly have gone too far.

    • Jaguar Wright

      Wow…this is my second time writing this..let’s see if this one takes. Hear are the bullet points. First, all those who have chosen to speak out regarding the incident at Time earlier this week who are neither club owners/employees or a part of the arts community here in Philadelphia…it would serve you best to not to anything at all. If no one pays you to open your face, then you should shut it. This is not a matter for spectators looking for a bashing contest; and you can take that to D&B’s where they have plenty of those games for your leisure, though I do agree with something earlier mentioned in a raunchy quote. It is Time for the arts community to take control of the arts here in Philadelphia. The arts community is responsible for nearly 1/3 of the tourism dollars that pass thru this City. Without that funding, this City would be even further in debt than we already are and have been. After the sports gaming, shopping, and tourist spots; what do you do then….watch TV?! We are the soundtracks of your lives! You don’t even realize how important we are to you. Without the arts this City would suffer a great financial and social loss. Philadelphia would be nothing but a bar brawl waiting to happen; and the streets would be filled with vomit, as only a bar brawl can provide. I never stepped around pools of vomit on Monday nights; but I do on the weekends, after those crap show Molly parties have ended. Is the gun situation an issue? Absolutely! It’s just not a music issue! It’s a City issue. I’m a witness in a case very similar to this. A man with a gun…stepped to the bar…brandished a automatic weapon…threatened to kill the female bartender…a few of the male patrons…as well as the owner! I’m a witness because I talked him out the door, and got him to agree to leave before he hurt someone. Funny thing…the bar is in northern liberties…it’s a quaint Irish pub… Professional/mature hipster crowd…and I’m the only African-American involved in the case. I guess Irish pubs are becoming too “Thugged Out” as well, huh? Funny thing isn’t it. It’s simple…the Jam was a wonderful night…the gun incident was an unfortunate thing…things like this unfortunately happen in cities(especially ours)…and club owners need to recognize the differences between all these matters. It’s Time to get responsible for the things we all say; and it’s time to address the matters that actually matter. Church…can I get an Amen?!

  • Alex Fisher

    THAT IS A TOTAL LIE!!! Sales?!?! I personally spend close to 80 dollars on average EVERYTIME I GO THERE! And I know for a FACT WHAT mgmt said because he referenced that term after the incident on April 1st. The sad part is that the person that stirred up the commotion was not a regular, had NO affiliation to anyone there but a white male who again was a non regular attendant at the “back in Time” night. We as musicians, artists and music lovers had a chance every Monday to experience some of the tri states best come together and share music, experience music at its finest for the price of a drink and food! Yes, there is a lot more that the mgmt isn’t disclosing and I know that Luke is a great person and he wouldn’t say it, but his peers will. TO STEREOTYPE YOUNG BLACK MUSICIANS BASED OFF OF A NON AFFILIATED IDIOT IS DISGUSTING AND I FAR FROM WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR FUTURE BUSINESS. It is insulting, offensive and not only makes us look unprofessional, but your organization as a whole for lying! I hope this reaches people far beyond Philly in the music industry, We don’t deserve this type of ignorance and blatant disrespect. PERIOD

  • Marcus Jackson

    I am outraged by this treacherous act. This is why we need the right establishments to exhibit that wonderful Philly soul, while creating new paradigms for socializing in the city: what is Red Planet?

    • Mike

      Back In Time will be out of business soon, and no one will care.

  • ryan

    Damn gun toting jazz musicians! ugh

  • Marc-j Gunz

    for all those that are crying race baiting…are either blind to the facts, or trying to hide the deep under lines of the lies that clubs have been yapping about for years… first let me school you about word association.. take the word used but the owner, “thuggish”. we hear that, and we think thug life. Now i bet you your mind will give you a visual of who brought that market phrase visual to pop culture main stream america… “ding-ding” ..yes, the rap/pop icon tupac… and yes, he is a black male.. the media branded him as a “gangster rapper”, because of his brushes with the law, and some lyrical content ..he also had a tattoo stating “THUG LIFE”! you remember that..oh, you get it now? The statement used is then reinforced with another negative statement about the patrons,..but what was the majority of the ethnic background that came to ‘TIME’ on Monday’s so faithfully..hmmmm? please, we are all grown ups, even a fool doesn’t try to fool a fool…just say what you mean …they don’t want a heavy black crowd end of story.

    • Colby Wallace

      Anyone who wants to disagree with you is doing so because they want to just express their thoughts on this or that or whatever, but NOT what happened. That crowd was one of the most vibrant I have seen sicne I moved to the city. There are a ton of jam sessions that attract less than 10 people….this place was packed, and not only that, it was packed with great musicians. So, long story short, in my opinion, this was because the crowd was black and any type of altercation scares them…..though if they were white, it wouldn’t matter.

      • Chris Grunwald

        sing it colby

  • Dave Manley

    Nothing kills the music faster than people NOT buying anything when attending an event. Just another sign of the times, music being “free”. We have a problem with that here in this city. There have been other recent venues that quit doing music because the sales didn’t’ reflect the music and attendance happening that night…Thats too bad. I run a session out side of town at a spot owned by a friend. We rely on customers to come in and eat and drink to insure that the musicians get paid, the bart tender makes money and the owner feels it’s his worth while to continue the night. We continue to work hard to get folks out. The music wont continue without people also supporting the venues financially PERIOD. That place was packed every week and nobody’s buying? Not good.

  • Colby Wallace

    Time to take that jam session to Bob and Barbara’s.

  • Arturo Cruz

    Well why doesn’t the live music scene in Philadelphia shut up and just buy their own bar or venue and then they can see the hassle these types of nights generate. Sure for every 3 cool people that come there’s 7 jerkoffs that ruin everything and its always “the powers that be” fault. I’ve worked in bars for 15 years and every time a venue started a night like this its been a nightmare. Sorry to burst anyones bubble but the patrons DO NOT buy. If people disagree go buy your own bar and see how much it’ll cost you and you’ll see why drinks are “overpriced”.

    • Joe Jordan

      you make an interesting and valid point. The perspective i’ve gained in my experiences to be honest… artists,owners, & patrons need to do a better job of meeting each other halfway….Owners can be abrasive and sometime closed minded, on the other hand artists and their audiences can be aloof, self serving and irresponsible, if we are to truly make a scene work here we all have to be more considerate #hangontothatdreampal lol

    • Anthony Tidd

      Arturo, you make some valid points. The bottom line is important. Still, the conflict arises because bar owners are dealing with artists (The Arts) and bar owners are also dealing the bottom line (The Booze).

      Running a bar where you have a jam session, an event specifically intended to attract artists, should also mean that the bottom line is not all you consider, when judging it’s success.

      This would be kinda like buying a Lamborghini, and then complaining about it’s fuel efficiency everyday.

      This event was doing “what it does” well…..It’s just that management wanted the Lamborghini to be a Prius….that looks like a Lamborghini….

      Aside from this, what do you mean when you say, “nights like this?”.

  • Jaguar Wright

    Wow…I didn’t even read some of the other comments made before my first post. This being my second post I’ll be certain to address all the other vile and raunchy comments made before mine; and properly address the true matters at hand as a Philadelphia performance artist. Until you’ve been an artist from/for this City, going through all the many obstacles we’re constantly forced to go through as artists for this City; speaking about what we need to do is inappropriate. We are the living soundtracks of your life. So unless someone is paying you to open your face I suggest you shut it. If the entire living arts community went on strike this City would suffer a great financial loss. You can only go to the movies, sports events, and malls for a while before the boredom of it all takes over. Then what do you have left…TV? The living arts community here in Philadelphia account for just over 1/3 of the tourism revenue that funds our fair City. If we stopped the City would become one big bar brawl and the streets would be filled with vomit from all the drunken foolishness that comes along with bar brawls. Is the gun an issue? Yes! But its a City issue. I have to testify in a case very similar to this in the coming months. Guess what! A guy brought a gun into the bar, and threatened a bartender, the patrons, as well as the owners! The gun was loaded! Funny thing..the bar is in northern liberties…everyone involved in the case except for me is white…and I’m a witness because I got him to back off and leave before someone got hurt. I guess Irish bars are too “Thugged Out” as well, huh? But, I do agree with something said in an earlier comment. Maybe it is Time for the arts community to be in control of the arts! This way the booze pushers no longer have to worry about “Thugged Out” music events! Worse things happen at our high schools! If we’re gonna comment on matters such as these then we need to get responsible for what we say. Blame shifting never solved a damn thing. In order to find a real solution, you first have to address the real matter at hand. The music event was wonderful, gun violence is awful, and club owners need to learn the difference between the two. Nuff SAID! Church…can I get an AMEN!?

    • Korey Riker


  • Joe Jordan

    Booooooooo……not a fan of this cancellation AT ALL! You want Philly to be an awesome Culturally adept Metropolitan city, but many club/business owners do everything they can to strangle true expression…. to give way to gentrified “Fast Food Culture”. its time we Leave Behind the era of “Credit Card Culture Consciousness” the “interest” the the arts pays as a result far outweighs what momentary trends have to offer…..

  • Jamir White

    My name is Atar’e Godspeed. I’am a local Hip – Hop artist in philly and i really dont like time and im glad they are gone. By “GONE” i mean no more of the fickle and picky open mics they have and even have the gall to call them “OPEN” mics. My first time there i rhymed with the band and the people loved it. But i dont think Luke Carlos O’Reilly. Numerous times after when i came to time for open mic i was always cut off by Luke running up to the stage and grab the mic and unplugging it just as im about to head onstage with the band. I didnt like it and i never will. And others, many others feel my pain.

  • Arturo Cruz

    Since no one here is paid to comment except for maybe the writer of this article then its an open forum for any one to post their remarks and there will be no face shutting.

    First off from my experience many nights have been cancelled in Philadelphia bars over the years. Not just jazz but punk, goth, house and everything in between. Of all the types of parties that have come and gone, the ones that failed were the ones that had hardly an attendance or had an attendance but failed to financially support the party. What I mean by this is that the patron did not want to pay a cover or bought little to no refreshments while there or worse brought their “own”.

    What this does is undermine the venue the party or night is being held at. If the venue does not make money to pay their employees than it sucks but the night will go away. It does not matter if its goth, trance, jazz, oldies or whatever. The venue is a business in it to make money. They are not in it for the love of their art whether they are singers, dancers, djs, or rock bands. Now don’t get me all wrong here, a few places have become artist owned and operated and from what I see continue to thrive. But alot of people who complain that its the venue fault always say its the venues fault. The jazz soul scene in Philadelphia is not that large and on paper should seem to thrive in a historic city like Philly for the life of me can’t get its act together. Apart from the random individual who does truly support the scene, the collective as a whole always seem to have problems. Why is that?

  • jim stephens

    Look, I think for the most part all of the artists who have posted are 100% right. The other aspect, which regretfully is also true, is Philadelphia has always had a support problem from the city at large in comparison to NYC, CHI, NOLA, and others. I’ve been performing and
    curating events in Philly, for how long now? 13years, 15? And I’ve seen it from every angle. And from every angle, the artists get screwed. Period.

    It’s nothing for venues in other cities to charge 10+ bucks for a jam session. And it’ll be packed. In Philly, some of the best musicians in the world routinely play for no covers, dishonored guarantees, venues deliberately hiding attendance, cancelling nights with no notice, not properly monitoring the door, etc, not upholding their part for whatever reason…

    As far as this specific issue with TIME, I do believe that there is an underlying prejudicial culture within ownership. I’ll stop short of going all the way and calling them racist – for now.

    At best, from a professional level, from a business standpoint, the way they handled the cancellation of this night was anything but. It was insulting, race baiting on their behalf for using the language “thugged out,” and disrespectful to all involved, all who came through to play, all who came to attend, all who made it one of the most culturally significant happenings in Philly in some time.

    If it was true, that the venue had concerns about sales (and the night was always packed, i always dropped at least 60-70 bucks when i came through, whether i played or not…)…..then it should have been addressed with the band at any point prior to last Monday’s incident, or any point after. From a business level, it’s disgraceful at best, and racist at worst.

    If this evening were going to be cancelled, allegedly because of sales…. 2 weeks ago, a month ago, or 2 months from now, and handled the right way, this furor would not exist. Though would be yet another blow to the backbone of Philly music, there wouldn’t be this uproar. How can a venue, which ALWAYS MADE MONEY on this night, jump out and from a self awareness point of view, especially after the “being white in philly” article, again from a business level, cancel this night immediately using that language, after one idiot, with no affiliation on one random night?

    It’s disrespectful to the world class talent that came through there each and every week. It’s disrespectful to the band. It’s disrespectful to the fabric and cultural aspect that Monday’s at Time brought to the city at large.

    If the night was truly struggling, after how long was the run….i don’t even know…close to two years or something…? I’ve been gone a lot….How is there not even the respect and human, professional decency shown towards all involved after that kind of run – if it WASN’T racially motivated or out of ignorance and fear (mongering)? Not even a chance for a farewell show? No thanking of the band, the scene, the money, the free publicity over the years? and the use of “thugged out?”

    If there was concern, and there were other incidents, and this was in fact the final straw…..(none of which i personally believe were the case)…….how difficult would it have been for ownership to discuss next week, or the week after that or the week prior, that they have to pull the plug soon and give a heads up. All the business that everyone sent their way? Because of this night? after one random act but a stranger with no affiliation to anyone?

    It makes no sense. Like I said, I’ll stop just short of calling blatant Racism…..for now……and chalk it up to naivete, disrespect, bad business practices, irresponsible actions, zero self awareness, no cultural respect, and somehow ignorant of the racial delicateness around the city and a knee jerk remark of “thugged out”…

    And addressing some of the other comments, On the flip side, We as the artists do need to do some better outreach other than bring out our fellow artists. Look we all support each other. But I don’t know how we can. Hell I’ve tried monthly’s everywhere, a lot of us have worked at setting that bar again – that place from WCL to Tritone, to you name it…..with media and good press and great talent…and Monday’s at Time had it!!!! but this city by and large has been apathetic for years in it’s support of us in comparison to some other cities ..for turnout and people actually (not) buying drinks when they come out…It’s been a vicious catch 22 in Philly for some time..longer than I’ve been on the scene that’s for sure… And it’s only getting worse, with the demises of music at The Khyber, South Valley, Tritone, Twilite, Elenas, and now Back In Time…for whatever reason – they’re for all intents and purposes gone…I’m not even gonna go back to The Lilly, South Street Blues, Zanzibar, The Upper Room days……etc. etc…..

    We have to, as a community, convince owners to book us, regularly, for a commitment so that we can get traction on x night. There’s too many of us, who are too talented, too integral to our arts and music community to be without “That spot.” I like Tuesday’s at Underground Arts, Tuesdays at Ortleibs, Mondays at Triumph. They’re all great. That’s 3 spots, 2 nights. That’s it. Unless I’m missing or forgetting somewhere….The amount that have come and gone and been cancelled the past couple years – that one would think were fool proof…it’s ridiculous…owners are hesitant to give the time for building stability of a night, why? because it’s regretfully been proven time and again – philly typically does not support locally – but the big out of town 80-100 ticket at a 20,000 capacity venue – PHL is all over that…..the city spends, just not on HERE…..There has to be an answer. Especially in center city. I don’t know what the answer is. I don’t. For a community working O.T. to maintain our traction and by extension a huge cultural and economic driving force in the city, the reason and language used by Time with the press and the uproar that came with it, sure doesn’t help the cause any. Honestly. Dialogue and threads like this can only help, and by extension of all the above, this uproar is justified. And like Korey said on another site, the fact this got a story shows what it meant to the city…and that is huge….especially coming from Victor who just wrote about the question of jazz in Philly being dead a month ago….

    The scene will move on. There will be the next hit, the next locale. But yes, it matters. The way it was handled matters. The language used matters. And the mark left on the city because of this run on Monday matters, and it won’t be lost or forgotten.

  • Jaguar Wright

    Okay.. I’ve just been informed of what really happened. Unfortunately, I must report that i do know the poor soul who started this whole mess. So here are the facts… This very talented young, married, and gainfully employed black man (whose wife is a friend and very big supporter of mine) suffered a severe bi polar episode last Monday at Time. After an argument with his wife he turned to substance abuse to cope with his upset; which anyone who knows anything about bi polar disorder can tell you is a lethal combo! He went to Time looking for healing in music; which he had heard was the place to go and be. By the time he reached the club his situation had already begun to implode. More drinks and drugs changed his demeanor obviously, and this is what prompted the bouncer to deny the young man’s reentry. Of course it all went down hill from there; and even after he slipped from the situation seamlessly, he decided to come back which is when his apprehension took place. Once again, this man is nobody’s thug! What he is is bi polar! This situation happens everyday in our city. So for me this makes the entire situation even more disappointing! A night that will be severely missed was virtually blown to pieces; and all due to something as unavoidable as one human beings lack of stable mental health. Pity! Now this young man is facing up to 10 years, his wife is going thru hell, the jam that brought so much life has been killed, and the social issues regarding this incident keep stacking up! Pulling the night was a foolish premature move, slandering the audience by saying “those people didn’t buy anything” was offensive in the least, and an entire music community is being punished because one person had a breakdown as sometimes humans do. Now this whole situation just went from nasty to down right sad! Hope it was all worth it for the parties involved. There are thieves in the temple tonight…love come quick….love please come in a hurry! #joythieves #loveslayers Damn shame!

  • J.Oz

    The live jazz community in Philly is a niche that I’m NOT part of, but don’t ignore the laws of economics.

    If revenue – cost > 0, the business is feasible. The amount > 0 determines viability. Good business people find solutions to keep viable businesses alive.

    Feasible businesses close.

  • Cassandre Luberus

    One thing to point out is, it appears that with or without the Jam Session, TIME will be Open on Monday nights. Just because they shut down the show does not mean they are closing for the night… So… if they are going to be open ANYWAY would it not make sense to have an event that will bring in even a few more dollars that they were not going to get if they did not have the event? Even if they close the event, the waiters, bartenders, cooks, and management still have to be there.. A business does not save funds to have all these people on staff, have the electricity running and NOT have many patrons at all…. hmmm. IJS
    well… Unless they will be closed on Monday nights now…